CANOO EV - Are they finally ready for the road?
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2023
- The Canoo EV brand has needed some tough love and the channel has been here to offer it. The EV Van looked ready from the prototype state and has been slow to get to market. OKC News 9 was able to tour the plant and see the 1st 3 Vans built for Oklahoma City.
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I want the adventure truck. I love the design and I can’t wait till they start mass production
Canoo has been clear for a while that they are going for fleet sales first. Those are the big volume orders so it makes business sense. Also, fleets can act as beta testers much better than private citizens. It's frustrating if we'd like to see one for sale, but makes business sense for Canoo.
The truck would be great to have. But we all know; never buy the first round of new electronics. Makes sense to test small fleets first. Work out the kinks and bugs. Then hit the market for consumers.
@@crtmojo2705 Yeah, fleets will have (presumably) trained techs and mechs in a shop to deal with glitches and weaknesses that become apparent. On the positive side, fleet drivers tend to be much harder on vehicles than private owners so if a vehicle is solid for fleet svc, than it should do very well for private family ownership.
@@hemaccabe4292 controlled environment with detailed feedback and maintenance records. It’s a very smart move. The public is a tough customer. Even tougher with all the spin reporting and social media half truths. I would perfect then launch also.
@@crtmojo2705 That is all true. Also, let's say you're running a doughnut shop. You have orders for a lot of single doughnuts and orders from some big buyers for thousands of doughnuts. If you're smart, you take care of the big orders first because that's where the money is. If a single doughnut buyer walks away impatient? Stuff happens. If an order for thousands of doughnuts walks away, that's bad.
@@crtmojo2705 fleets can get a better deal with non disclosure agreement 😅
I love the truck. Looking forward to driving one.
I would 100% love to car camp in this vehicle, across Canada and the U.S. I do find the 'touch bar controls' absolutely terrible. I'd love to see a more driver-friendly button panel. I hope that we start seeing these cars hit the consumer market sometime soon. Add a heat pump for cold climate (Canada) and I'd definitely explore this is a strong option for my adventure travels.
Thanks for sharing!
Since the van is steered by wire and the steering wheel can be moved to the opposite side it seems perfect for a Post Office delivery vehicle.
Good point but I believe the USPS has a costly delivery truck being developed by a military contractor.
@@AllTerrainNation 🤮 the Osh Kosh deal is total nightmare. Went from 100% EVs to 10% EVs. From a company that’s never built an EV.
Rivian and Canoo got screwed by the Post Master. They have vehicles in production vs Osh Kosh having to start from scratch. The billion dollars is as good as gone.
Amen
@@AllTerrainNation Now why did he say it can be right hand drive for the Post Office? Because The Post Office is a UK company.
They've had these things on the road for over a year. They shipped some prototypes to several of their customers to test them out and offer suggestions for improvements.
So beta testing has been going on now for awhile.
Thanks for the coverage of Canoo, I am really hoping they can get SOP going. I am in at 42c average.
I hope so too!
I love Canoo designs, they are what you would expect in a futuristic looking vehicle. Truck or van, it’s electric no concerns on gas. Drive it all day, no pollution. I have a Tesla, it was the only game in town, didn’t really have a choice. I wanted a Canoo.
Sadly Tesla remains the only game in town.
Like you I hesitate to give them a reservation fee, but have reinvested some of my Tesla stock gains in to Canoo. Not happy that it basically a penny stock, but love the Bulldog and hope hope hope it works out! Actually, I hope it gets produced and is a big hit, I'm worried that "working out" for them might be folding and running away with as much investment capital as they can collect.
I should have purchased Canoo stock not 2 years ago but now days.
I currently have 5000 shares of this company. I thought this company or start up would have taken off by now. The product looks rock solid. I would like to have the Military version in my driveway right now. Its way more than the Cyber truck. I would like to tow it behind my RV but I think it weighs more than my 4 Door Jeep wrangler. I guess you cant have everything in life.
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If they keep the price down, I see these and the Aptera ev. owning the market.
I love that you chose to wear a Champion shirt for this story.
Trying to spark a conversation lol
Would you rather 1 version 1000 times or 1000 versions 1 time?
That's the beauty of fleet sales high volume of 1 version to work the kinks out.
I love the little truck Bulldog. REminds me of a mini Unimog face, and that COE design... but electric... is a chef's kiss for me. I'm in the market to get my first EV and I want a small truck. Rivian turned me off with their price, but I understand it, their second gen product seems to be aimed more at me, and it seems Canoo is also targeting that price range shopper. 30-50K. Rivian has an edge with already being on the road for word of mouth. I looked at the F-150 as well, but it's just too big for my need, think weekend DIYer going to the Big Box Store or loading mulch for the wife. I won't need to haul any huge trailers. Just get me the store and camping. Super hopeful on the Bulldog.
If they get the Bulldog up to 300 miles or more; I’ll be looking to get one.
Look at the Fisker Alaska. Up to 340 mile range.
I immediately wanted one when I saw it, so it would be a shame if they dropped off.
They need big wins. I think they underestimate how much the public would buy theses. They look super cool.
Fleet and Government sales are good prototyping grounds for vehicles. I hope this will get to availability for public sales within a year.
Sounds good but can you name a brand that has successfully done this in the past?
@@AllTerrainNation Jeep.
If they get enough money to satisfy the fleet demands they can built a line or two for sales to private citizens.
@@AllTerrainNation Hummer
The ev market isn’t slowing down. The best selling vehicle in the world in 2023 is the Tesla Model Y. And they’re not 60-70k they’re $40-50k. What has changed is that people are no longer willing to pay a big premium for an EV, so the products that sell are the ones that are priced comparatively with ICE vehicles. I REALLY hope Canoo can stay alive and get vehicles to customers
I want one, mostly a van but I want it to have the same type of body panels and coating as the military truck version! The truck version is said to have a range of 500 miles, if they can get that range for the truck then why not for the van?
I have heard prices in the $30k to $50k range which I think is reasonable, the other thing is the footprint is roughly the same size as what a Prius takes up! That to me hits right as I don’t need to make any changes to my garage or find special parking spots for a bigger wider vehicle (talking to you Tesla Cyber Truck). Last wish is that this use a new battery type that gets longer range and charges quickly. To me the van has this kind of 70s hippy vibe like a Volkswagen bus. Come on Canoo give us the van now!
They are already paired with Google.
Will they be delisted before they can get going? That is the big question, and their approach to large contracts is a good idea, not a bad one. It takes too much time to deal with the customer, and large customers would take less time as thousands of single ones. Get it successfully implemented and the crowd will follow.
It’s not a bad idea if they hadn’t already pushed for normal customers. When they opened up reservations the fleet idea wasn’t in the plans.
Give them a break. Building an auto manufacturer is no joke. That is how it was for Tesla too.
when can you have your hands on the steering...erm...rectangle/bar/helm? USA Needs that lil workhouse truck yesterday
Looking at the stock price I’m considering buying a bunch. I mean it’s not a lot to lose.
I have always liked the look of the product and would definitely be interested. And I think your Apple association is logical and would totally change the picture.
I want to think after all this time something will happen.
I've been waiting for the Maverick Lightning model but FORD seems to be moving GLACIALLY with the Mav product.
I'm diggin the Canoo PU. HOWEVER, Canoo does not have any kind of reputation yet. Will their vehicles be durable, reliable
long lasting? Will there be any resale value? If the battery dies, can it be fixed for a reasonable cost? What about that
crazy windshield? State Farm does not cover glass. Whats that going to cost me? Even those triangular side windows
look expensive. It best practices NOT to buy a brand new designed, well, ANYTHING. All first gen whatevers are prone
to bugs & modifications are ALWAYS made nextgen. What to do? What to do? What to do?
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EV resell is awful unless it’s Tesla.
Maverick is perfect for a small EV but ford is hurting right now from poor Lightning / Mach E sales
Before anyone buys a EV, they need to check with their insurance company first. The canoo seems to have a repairable battery pack which is not the case with many EV's. Must say that I line the design .
No deposit here, though I love the idea of their pickup, if it actually comes to being. I own a couple thousand shares of their stock, which all rolled into a big ball is worth about the price of a good pair of shoes, lol.. The Big news now is that USPS is looking at four vans. The management of USPS is pretty much stone age material, so I don't have much faith that it will lead to anything, but USPS does have many thousands of 30+ year old vehicles on the road.
INTERCHANGEABLE workforce means everyone on the assembly line can move into any
of the assembly line jobs. So if Joe is out sick, Becky can cover his station.
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"Prototyping for 10+ years..." Sounds like Aptera...
This will be the future, 1 frame, and can make it a sedan,pickup, utility vehicle, van, etc. All on the same "skateboard" so you could change your vehicle if you wanted a true transformer. This also has very few parts, which will also make it desirable. If they are over 50,000 in price, this will fail. It has to be under 38,000. IMO
Im not sure how they can keep costs inline to have price in the 35-40k range. The big boys are struggling with mineral costs.
interchangeable work force - multi skilled - the ability to move workers between different types of workstations
They need to answer the concerns people have about evs, their resale value is terrible given the cost of replacing the batteries and making the vehicles future proof. Also a battery jerry can system needs to be worked out so you aren’t left stranded ect. For me I’ll be avoiding evs for now, but I love the design of these little trucks, pity they aren’t also coming out with a diesel version.
I own a bolt, 4 years now, and love it. Will one day upgrade it to the Blazer. I want a sensible size US made pick up ev also - maybe the Takoma phev will be it if it ever arrives or maybe this one? If Chevy had the Colorado would be for sure. Good luck to Canoo!
Same. Really want a good charging time. A decent battery and easy to repair.
I don't have a major issue with the carpet. The yoke depends on functionality on the yoke.
I'll wait until Q2, Q3 and see if they are putting out vehicles and still on the stock market.
That is not blue carpet. Those are blue LEDs shining on the floor.
Please tell me this isn't going to be another Tucker!
Companies like Pepsico & Walmart can go to the fed gov & the state gov & both will write them a
big fat check to go electric. So those companies dont have to risk much. PLUS it is good PR for them.
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Excuse me Dave, but it's the retail buyers that have backed off on the demand right now. I think Tony's plan is a great one, even though I would love to have one of these vehicles.
Funny because I get lots of comments from people that placed the deposit down to order and haven’t received any info on the order process. EV is cooling off but that has no barring on deposits from two years ago.
I think they are really cool btw
Just saying that it's the commercial market that seems to be more stable and they have greater ability to pay. My first priority is for Canoo to succeed, then secondly to acquire one their vehicles. @@AllTerrainNation
All Terain EV, @@@*(@(*(*@ hilariously, how many tonnes of battery's do you have to lug arround ??
I'd almost be game for one of these if it were a hybrid, as an EV thats a big hell no.
As for PR people, did you see the Sandy Munro video? They had roughly 9000 PR people floating around in the background of that video. Wonder where the money went? Guess? They could have fired all but one of those PR people, hired workers and told the engineers to stop smoking ganja and playing video games, get down on the shop floor and start wrenching some vehicles together for delivery. That would have gotten the automation up in record time.
I made a deposit as soon as I could for the P/U. I also own stock
Many Van Campers would love to have the Canoo's Large Electric Cargo Van and love their pick-up trucks.
Wish Canoo sale their products to the public too?
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I bought $250 in stock yesterday at .26/share, this morning, its down to .21, lol. My hope, someday this truck becomes a reality, stocks skyrocket and my $250 investment becomes enough for me to go buy one of these things...one can dream right? I figured its a better bet than playing the lottery! I toyed with the idea of buying $1,000 worth, if the stock hit $10.00 someday, it would be worth $40,000...right about where I would need to be to pick one up. Now stocks would have to hit $40 for me to do it. What the heck, if it goes to .50 cents, I double my money! LOL
As for the market slowdown, yeah, I basically agree. Only one company on Earth has figured out how to make and sell an EV for a profit. All the others lose money on every vehicle. Maybe if you're Ford, you can afford to throw away a few $Bs on EVs, but for Canoo to make sense, they actually have to make a profit on each vehicle.
Nope, Li Automotive turns a profit as does BYD which sells more EV's than any other manufacturer on the planet.
@@rms5654 No they don't. Their profit is money they scam from the CCP. They lose money on every car.
Searched the term interchangeable workforce. Earliest article I could find was from 1988 that basicaly calls easy to replace workers, disposible.
My guess they will hire people that can lift and push buttons from temp agencies and such for the work that is repetitious.
I dumped my stocks when I got a break-even, nope.
I'm trying to do this as well I might even cut losses. I don't like how they false advertised delivering the vehicles to the state of oklahoma on the earnings call. They also tricked investors by using word play "delivering of" to make you think they were already delivered. Notice how he made sure to say they have not took a dollar from oklahoma state and then also the news speaker states that they are still deciding if they want to buy the vehicles? What the hell? The stock rallied because investors thought the vehicles were already delivered. They are also bragging about production and the factory in a rush because they were very behind on production. Overall I still like Tony but I think they are trying to be a little "slick" and do little "tricks" to look more ahead of the line than they really are with things so that they don't look bad.
Agreed. But damn at current stock price it’s not a lot to lose and if it makes the next step…
I mean at this point the only place left to go is gone and I just can’t see that after all this time.
How's it in the snow?
Great question.. If they would ever start selling them we could tell you
I saw this concept a few years ago and thought it was awful looking. Now I've looked closer and I want one. Not sure about that cockpit but there would be optional trims there I am sure. Some of those range and power numbers are real fuzzy as well so it would be nice to see that settle. I also really like listening to Tony but if and when this company succeeds in producing a volume of these vehicles is quite a crap shoot. I wish them the best though but won't hold my breath.
Some good points - interchangeable work force?! yikes - but just to note: EV sales worldwide, and in the US are up. In the US it is up 50% in q3. A big issue, beyond getting series manufacture oonline, is that former partner KIA/Hyundai os going to release a van/commercial series, and the teaser profiles remind me a lot of Canoo. Makes you wonder.
If Aquilano isn't interested in tapping the taxpayer dollar, maybe he shouldn't pursue the promising military hook up. Maybe he should keep his head own, and nose to the grindstone.
Going for industry instead of consumers is the smart strategy imo. Canoo can't compete with Tesla or other more established companies at this point.
I like the looks and functionality, but don't trust that it will be produced for consumer sales. No, I haven't and probably won't put down a deposit or buy stock given what I see. I would buy one if it gets built and has decent performance in software, range, and reliability.
Delays are ubiquitous of the industry. Patience, my friend.
Canoo isnt allowing for patience with new management every year and being cash strapped as well. I do hope we see the fun brand make it.
Until just recently, I knew nothing about them....until I saw a video the other day. Only question is, if they perform that well, why are we driving these dangerous shit boxes?
What is the cost to replace the battery ?
In other brands it’s 4-15k
@@AllTerrainNation Actually, it's $20-30k in Teslas and $60k in an Ioniq (apparently, a bunch of horror stories are circulating)
That bald guy in the freeze frame appears to be a Native American to me.......
Took some mad money and invested, at .35 cents if it takes off, easy money. If not, that’s why it’s mad money.. lol
Bankruptcy can scare business people. This is why, get volume sales out first.
Good point
"Interchangeable workforce" means Tesla bots can come in and do all the human work if we like. That's when prices of goods truly plummet.
Bro just made a fortune if he held the stocks
Hardly…
Stock is just 0.25 cents! It’s a buy in my opinion
We added more but I think it gets delisted in Jan
Pair with Apple? Please no, the price will go up and the features will go down. It's a modular vehicle platform, the opposite of Apple's very closed source, hands off approach.
I own over 4000 shares, cost basis .90.....lookin at this .20 cent stock price....its not looking good. Then again...the market and economy are not lookin good either. But I keep buying @ .20...why not at this point. Hope it we dont have have another Lordstown.
Ill buy back in if I see them start to gain some energy
when ya have to many irons in the fire,,,guess what .
As for demand, yeah, I'd like an EV. I'm NOT going to spend $60K+ on one. Especially not a non-Tesla. Keep in mind, there is no functional road charging network for non-Tesla EVs, so they're all town cars. However, if I could get a nice little van for around town stuff for $30K? Less? We might be talking. But I don't think Canoo will be able to deliver that.
Charging networks are workable currently. You can road trip in an EV with a bit of planning (not just telsas)
@@benwinslow3101 Yeah, I’m hearing from a lot of very pro-EV people that non-Tesla chargers are suckadelic. Either completely non-functional or working at a reduced level that will take hours to charge a typical EV. I’m also hearing that non-Tesla EVs have a very difficult time handshaking with those semi-functional chargers. I stand by my statement.
@hemaccabe4292 you are welcome to your opinion, but I'll just point out that bad news sells better than good news. The CCS network is hit or miss, but its getting better, and it's not as bad it's made out to be. There are several apps you can use to scout out chargers in advance, so with a little planning it's really not hard. Additionally, everyone is switching over to NACS anyway, so the tesla network will be a reliable backup option for everyone when needed.
@@hemaccabe4292 I have a non-Tesla EV. Yeah, the chargers are not as good as Tesla and sometimes they are broken, but it's not that much of an issue. Most people with EVs drive less than 50 miles/day and charge either at home or at work.
The use case for EVs is not long-distance trips, but running normal everyday errands and commutes. They are great at both of those, esp. since most families in the US own two cars. Our second car is a large SUV which pretty much never gets used other than road trips.
Focusing on long-distance road trips is a red-herring everyone one is chasing, it pushes up car weights, charging times and cost massively. It's like shopping for cars by gas tank size when all you do is commute 20 miles to work.....
If you want to jack the price up 50 percent, have Apple get involved.
Plus, every year they change the style of the charging plug.
"EV market is tAnkINg..." meanwhile Tesla model Y is the top selling car in the world. I think they mean Ford and Chevy EV market?
Tesla has taken forever to put put the cyber truck and it isn't even what they said it would be. So Canoo gets a pass from me since they are still a smaller business and basically a startup still. So shut up with your complaints already sell your stock already. Owning stock in a company means you see potential growth and sales. But I am a nobody. Just ignore me.
it means unskilled labor, easily replaceable work force, throw away employees...no union labor. that is what he said.
Here come December!!!
As they promised us that’s they’re ready to produce 20,000 of Canoo vehicles.
I hope they’re right??? 🎉
They make 3 cars and not planning to sell to the public. This CEO is a joke
Yeah, let's ignore the 35k committed fleet orders and try to sell them one at a time to individuals at high interest rates in a down economy. Sounds like you got this.
I am disappointed that the regular cab with a long bed is a work truck that seats only 2 people instead of 3, that's bad, we need a 3-seater+long bed for 2x4s.
we have enough big trucks on the road...bring back the freakin 2 seaters
400 shares? Really?
Yes really..
Unfortunately, too slow. There are already cheaper, similar vehicles in the works
Yep!
There are 3 tribes in my county. Many tribal members look real white BECAUSE of inter racial marriages.
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Tim Cook has no clue what he is doing
wow 400 shares ?? of ye of little faith,, I have 15,300 shares of this co. they better get the dam things out the door .and stop creating a dozen different models,,,that's R&D money they can't afford . Elon musk should buy the co. Tesla knows how to produce vehicles .I think it would look good with a Tesla logo .
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yeah guy has 100$ worth haha
They need a new CEO. As you have alluded to in your video, Tony has no clue what he is talking about. He uses too many jargons that meant nothing to translate to any revenue. The quality of workforce that he has is sub-optimal. The real leading edge guys are gone. I am not sure how this company survive the next 2 quarters with the cash and cash equivalents of $8.3 millions as of Sept 30, 2022.
I dunno, he's the one that's gotten vehicles out the door, which is a huge win in my book. Even Elon struggled to get that done. As far as cash, this is a very real issue, but it's also a symptom of the wider state of the economy - two years ago they could have easily raised another round, but higher interest rates have destroyed that window.....
There was a time when the same thing happened to Tesla and Elon put every last cent he had into it to keep it afloat. He was homeless for about a year (sold his house) and was basically a perma-guest at his friends.
OMG! Don’t even suggest Apple should do anything with Canoo! Instead of a $25k or $35k vehicle it will be $150k!!! Anyone that buys Apple products know they are way overpriced!!
Maybe if you let the the manufacturers of the vehicle speak and not speak so much yourself, we might understand something
Go sub to Canoo then…
Thanks for watching my thoughts
I laid down my $100 a long time ago. I get it though, they are trying to survive and stay above water.
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It’s a penny stock and going bankrupt soon
How much does Musk pay you for all your stupid trolling ?
lol.. reporting on the company is not trolling.
Stop being so negative it shows on the video be more supportive and people will pick up on the positive , because negativity drives away business 🧐✅ even if it’s tough love you can hold off on it for a while before you start being so negative 🤨✅
I cover the industry and have been following the brand since 2019. Id love to speak great of the brand but sadly they have gone through management after management with nothing to show for it. Canoo needs to build the reservations they have taken in yet the brand continues to chase investment money to stay afloat. I find nothing positive in the brand at the moment.
Reinventing or making the steering wheel a different shape is the most dumbest thing ever which the steering wheel should not be made a different shape keep it the same shape and another thing I can not stand is dial shifters or button shifters make it simple and easy column shifters and console shifters are by far the simple and easy way why remake something so complicated or totally make it different is just in my opinion stupid.