Restoring your Rental Property from Cigarette Smoke / Nicotine
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
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If you are in the real estate investing business long enough, you will likely encounter a smoker damaged house or apartment that not only looks bad but stinks . I have got some good deals by buying houses like this because most people don't know how to get them back in shape. I call smoke and pet odors "the smell of money" because I can usually buy them cheap.
In this video, I will show you tips and tricks for restoring your rental property from years of heavy cigarette smoke and nicotine build-up. These steps will cover the nicotine stains and remove the smell of cigarette smoke in the house. The steps are:
1) Clean the walls, ceilings, trim, etc. with TSP or Trisodium Phosphate
2) Prime the walls, ceilings and baseboards with a shellac based primer. I use Zinsser BIN primers.
3) Apply your favorite paints.
If you have carpet in your apartment, you will most likely need to remove it. If there is a wood subfloor, I would prime it as well. This is also a good process if pet urine has soaked into the subfloor. - Навчання та стиль
I’ve been in the process of cleaning a 3000 sq ft house with 2 smokers. I swear they haven’t even done a basic cleaning in the 10 yrs they lived here. The nicotine is literally on everything! Ceilings, light bulbs, screws you name it! Cleaned out exhaust fans, furnace filter, cold air intakes, vacuumed the ducts as much as possible, including the rad covers. Next is Zinsser!
Great job! Thank you for actually explaining the process instead of making an advertising video for your business!
Appreciate the comment. I have nothing to sell.
Great job! Everything I needed to know and nothing I didn't! That's really difficult to do. Thanks for just the facts!! Excellent presentation!
Stick with the Zinser BIN. I am trying a different product right now and it is not working!
Thank you for ACTUALLY showing the dirty walls and ceilings, with them coming clean! Many other videos do not and, if they do, it involves hand scrubbing with a sponge.
Thanks!
Unfortunately you can clean all you want. You will never get rid of all of it and specifically the smell
Primer is the way to go after cleaning. If you have rugs say bye bye to them. I now detest people who smoke. At least go on the out door balcony. But even then neighbors can smell. I did not do my homework. I though the place just needed to be aired out. I would have remodeled eveything anyway in any condo II looked at. But the clean up and primer is a extra burden. Condo looks great now. But once in a while I still think I smell it. Probably some crap still in the vents.
Thank you! Bought a duplex and the smoking tenant of 30 years just moved out. Big job!
Yes it is. Congrats on the duplex!
Try first applying a similar solution using a garden sprayer and after 10 to 15 minutes, use the mop and rags.
Thanks for this vid. I got nauseous watching it but the info was really helpful.
Thank you so much for your tips. That makes me feel better about buy a house that has smoke halls
A house that has some smell can help you get a good deal...I call smoke or cat smell the smell of money....lol.
I use the same only I use the o-cedar spin mop with the TSP and my grace sprayer. Quick and easy.
great video! Thankyou. was nice to see how its done the products tools and quantities you used.
Thanks for the kind comment!
I’m about to start a clean just like this and 😱 doesn’t begin to describe my feelings right now! Thanks for the tips!
Hope it goes well!
We are going to be doing this soon as well. How long did it take?
72 man hours but it was only a 400sf apartment.
Your sigh in the beginning says it says! Been there so many times and I know exactly how you feel!
Lol, that is the sigh of knowing how much nasty work is ahead of me.
Thank you for taking the time to create this guide. Everyone who describes real estate as "passive income" should be forced to watch this!
Thanks Adam!
That’s right. It is NOT passive.
Agree, a good PM can make it pretty passive, but I don't like to give of the 💰. In my area, most are 10% of gross revenue plus a leasing fee and their maintenance is around $65/hour.
I get it. That is the cool thing about real estate....so many different paths you can take depending on your goals.
Well explained
Thank you
I’m about to take on the house of our dreams lived in by chains smokers for 25 years
Oh I’m a paint maker for 30 years and I think you pretty much nailed it all.
I came back to remind myself
Thanks! Best of luck with the house!
How did it turn out?
Howd it go?? Im in the same boat!!
@@ajamesbertman walked away from it
That's a satisfying before and after.
A lot of work but satisfying!
Another thing that one can do is run an ozone generator in the space as an added step. That should take care of any odor issues that may remain.
I loved this video - for a few reasons, but the primary one was that it got to the point without any dodgy 'science' or other BS.
Record the work you do! It would make for fantastic viewing and it's thoroughly enjoyable to see the difference you can make (as you did here.)
Thank you for the upload 👌🏻
Thank you for uploading!! We are considering buying a home that had a long term smoker and wanted to better understand the process of cleaning it before we buy.
Did you buy the property and if so, how is it now? We are looking at a house that has cigarette smell in it.
I know this was 9 months ago, but you could try and negotiate that in your pricing. For example, ask owner reduce asking price by the cost of what guys would need to have it restored. We didn't ask if the home owner smoked in our house, and it wasn't until after we bought it that we realized. Not sure what they used to mask the odour during showings, but lesson learned for us!
@@jenniferreid7652 agreed I'm in the same situation. Can't move in till its cleaned and repainted. Definitely diy but will be asking for the cost to be deducted from the total.
Currently dealing with the same issue it's unbearable
Ozone generators have great reviews to get smoke smell out of everything!! Anyone had experience using them?
Thank you so much!!! We are about to buy our first house, which was previously owned by a long time indoor smoker. They were going to paint directly over the nicotine stains.... We told them to stop and take off the price of the painter!
Your video is the best and most straightforward. We'll absolutely be using it for reference =)
How did it turn out?
@@ajamesbertman so far so good, we used zinsser bin primer and a medium quality valspar paint from lowes. The place now just smells like paint but hopefully that will subside. No more smoke smell at least 👍🏻
Only thing I regret is not buying a higher quality paint at the Sherwin williams store instead of the lowes paint
@@stelms10 Nice! Thank ya very much
It's been a year, Did the cleaning and painting work? wondering is the smell gone?
Yes, 1 year in and our house is totally smoke-scented free. Another thing that helped is getting rid of a carpet downstairs and a few times using an Ozone generator we bought from Amazon. BE REALLY CAREFUL when using an ozone generator though. Absolutely no living beings can be inside the house during treatment or for an hour or a few after treatment. Outside of that the ozone dissipates quickly and it is totally safe.
All of these techniques turned our house from a smelly hole to a totally unscented experience!!
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Thank you Thank you Thank you for this video man!!!!!
Glad it helped!
Highly highly recommend Krud Kutter for nicotine/tar. Bought a house 10 months ago that has a lot of tar on the walls and strong smell. TSP seemed to smear the tar on the wall like shown here though will certainly work. The benefit of Krud Kutter is that it's all natural and won't hurt you like TSP would.
And +1 to the BIN. My many months of research tells me this is the only way to go once things are cleaned up!
I will give it a shot on the next one. Thanks!
I’m doing one now and I’ve been using clr and it’s been working great
I'm using Krud Kutter right now - it works amazingly well.
I’m using crud cutter and a microfiber mop. Tsp didn’t work for me either.
Great Job, you csn always tell a smokers home by the grout in between the tile, slap some fake wood flooring over the tile or just fully replace it. Easier to wash and maintain
Thanks. Baking soda and white vinegar does a great job cleaning grout. When the tile starts really looking bad, I plan to cover with LVP.
Used TSP and Dawn soap mixture. Walls look much better. Removed the carpet as well and there is a noticeable difference in smell. Just need to paint on the zinzzer then paint the room and I’ll be done.
Good to hear! If it is a wood subfloor, probably want to prime that as well.
Great video. Going through this now. I will never rent to a smoker ever again!!
Not a lot of fun to clean up after one. Hope the video helps!
There are a lot of 'non-smokers' until you find out later they actually are. Also the "We smoke outside" doesn't last too long either. We have an issue with cooking from the stove. The kitchen seems to get covered with residue.
As a tennant and smoker, I do my best to wash my walls every 6 months or less and generally before moving I will paint the apartment, All of the landlords I've had were surprised, I've even repainted my aparment while still living there, as they were concrete walls and washing them was damn near impossible and I quickly discovered that concrete likes to suck up paint if you dont prime it.
Magic eraser will work great on appliances, try it. If you replace all the wall outlets, will look better.
I will try a magic eraser on the next one. Good point on the outlets.
Great video. And I subscribed too. There’s no smoke smell in the doors and cabinets? Thanks!!
Thanks! We cleaned the cabinets real good and that got rid of the smell. You can also open the cabinet doors and run an ozone machine to help.
A smoker can screw up a nice house.
And their lungs.
Who cares we all die one day nobody lives forever enjoy your life if u wanna smoke smoke who cares your gonna be dead In the ground anyway
I agree and get depressed thinking about it. The question is how soon we end up in the hole? My dad smoked and passed away in 2009. All his sibling (most older), are still alive except one that died a few months ago. Wish I could have had him here for the last 14 years. Maybe it is not about us, but about others that want/need you to be around as long as possible. Just something to ponder.
@@thediylandlord1493 I own my house and only smoke in my bedroom with in 2 years i need to redo the room due to the smoke and can't keep my clothes in here or they turn yellow. Nasty habbit but i did it so long its so hard to quit. but i a clean person still. I have 4 kids and i afraid to die and worried about my health i gonna be 40 in july sorry about your dad all i can think about is being here for my kids but i can't quit this a nightmare.
Thanks for the comments. Give this book a try.."Easy Way to Quit Smoking" by Allen Carr.
Krud kutter concentrate is only thing I will use. It will turn wall and ceiling white before needing to paint and is effortless. But great job still here
thanks I just looked up the product Krud Kutter it has great reviews. We have a rental property that was remodeled and gorgeous now its smokey and yucky.. Wondering how this product would affect our painted wall and painted cabinets? any feedback or help is appreciated.
@@Jason_Wheeler it claims to be environmentally friendly. And I have in no way experienced any affects to the paint. Some ceiling plaster did flake but the house was built in 1957. Also, you can find KK in the painting isle at Home Depot... Not the isle with other cleaners.
If you rinse it with water you may cause water damage in areas if not dried well.
I use 2 spray pumps (the kind you use in the garden for pesticides and fertilizer) I fill one with Krud Kutter and the other with water. Sprat rooms top down with the KK and the water is to rinse.
A painters masks comes in handy for the fumes because KK is a concentrate.
I use a ceiling and wall mom to wipe up.
Utilize whatever means you have to dry the floor well when done. I use a mop and mop bucket
What krud kutter did you use? The degreaser or prepaint cleaner?
Thanks for uploading this! I am currently in process of cleaning up and renovating a badly smoked in room. Thankfully only one room in the house is really bad. The sponge mop is going to save me a lot of time for my next round of cleaning the walls. I was using krud kutter (which is working great - I don't think my walls were as bad as the ceiling in this place) and hand wiping. Also, I had popcorn ceilings (scraped them off) and I'm trying to debate if I need the zinsser on the ceilings (definitely will on the walls) before painting. I sprayed zinsser where the drywall tape was since that was not heavily covered by the popcorn and was far more yellowed, but I'm, worried about any bleed through if I don't cover the ceiling even though it doesn't look too bad with just regular primer on it right now. Better safe than sorry, I guess.
Glad the video helped!
May want to look at Kilz Restoration primer for the ceiling. I recently tested it on a slightly yellowed ceiling and it worked well. Cost is about the same as BIN but it is water clean-up and doesn't smell as bad. Also, if you want a flat white finish on the ceiling, the Kilz can serve as your topcoat.
@@thediylandlord1493 ok, I’ll look into that.
How was the process of scraping the popcorn ceiling off? I'm trying to fix up a house that smells of smoke and I don't know what to do about the popcorn. I can't seem to just clean it as the popcorn just comes off easily. :(
I've painted many ceilings and walls with nicotine stains. You dont have to clean the walls or ceiling 1st. Roll 1 coat of SW problock, Shelac,or killz primer and paint top coat. It's easier to roll out the ceilings first and then do the cut ins.
I have never had any luck with Kilz water based primer. Are you using the oil based?
That has worked for me too but had to 2 coats of latex kilz to get good coverage.
Yeah heard this from expert painters. Just primer over the carp with the primers you mentioned.
@@thediylandlord1493 I would assume he is. Many pros just prime over the crap with oil base or Shlec.nasty stuff though.
I've found that if one bothers with washing the walls with TSP, any basic primer will work. No need for BIN, unless it's serious damage, or spot repair.
Probably any oil based would work. I haven't had much luck with Kilz water-based primer for anything except maybe sealing up new drywall.
If vinyl wallpaper though you will need the Zinsser Bin shellac base. It will stick and you can paint over after.
This is helpful! We purchased a house knowing that a smoker lived in it and didn’t think much because the walls were painted white. Now the tar yellow-brown color is coming out and sometimes dripping out of the painted walls and ceiling. It’s not water damage. I’m thinking they didn’t clean with TSP and didn’t prime before painting. Should I go through the same process as you did?
If possible, I would test a few areas with the BIN primer and and oil based primer to see if either of them stop the bleed thru. Will be hard to clean if it has already been painted over.
@@thediylandlord1493 yes think your right.
I use Ammonia Water, yes it has a brutal odor, but it does the job better than any product and is likely not as toxic as the other chemicals. I follow with water rinse after, 1st plain water then, Lemon Water or Vinegar Water.
Walls need the appropriate type of Paint (Semi-gloss/Satin) for cleaning and needs to be re-painted every 4 - 5 years anyway.
The costs are covered in the rent, maintenance fees, and deposits.
It is part of Owning/Managing Rental Properties.
Its a business I personally would not pick to Own, unless I had a Management and Maintenance Group to do all the needs.
I will give ammonia a test on the next one. I know it does really good at getting stains out of carpet.
Try peroxide on the white plastic and fridge. I've had really good luck using it to make things white again.
Like just straight peroxide and dip a rag in it? I'm going to try this so want to make sure I'm doing it right!
@@thunderbussie4life It's better if you can soak the whole part. But if not, yes, straight peroxide on a rag. You want the peroxide to be in contact with the part as long as possible.
@@dustinf11 thank you. I wonder if it would ruin Matte paint walls.
Great video! Thanks for posting this. New sub here! Do you use Tsp on the cabinets and counters as well?
TSP is pretty harsh stuff so I typically just use Dawn soap for general cleaning. I do use TSP on cabinets if I an going to paint them.
Thanks for subscribing!
@@thediylandlord1493 Ah, ok thanks for the reply. I never used TSP before, but want to paint my walls. Your video was very informative. Thank you so much.
Good work 😮 what did you say was the new wall color?
Agreeable Gray. I use it as my standard in all my apartments.
How would you treat wood trim that is finished and not able to be painted?
If it has been sealed, you should be able to just clean the trim. I would try something mild like Dawn. If it has not been sealed, you may need to apply a sealer like polyurethane after cleaning.
Some guys advocate just primer over the crap. Looks like you could not get all the nicotine off. Good job. Hard to find painters who want to primer.
Thanks Tom! I wouldn't call myself a painter. Just a DIY Landlord trying to save a few bucks!
thanks! is it weird that I'm looking forward to this? I'm the renter but I'm thinking about moving in a few months and my walls are kinda grey
Agreeable Grey is awesome!
How did it turn out?
What about the furnace? New filter would help tremendously i bet.
Those wall units have a filter that can be washed.
This was helpful! How much primer/paint and tsp do you think you’d need for a 1200sq ft house?
It depends on a lot of factors but here is a good starting point:
- 5 gal of wall paint (probably won't need all that but it is cheaper per gal to buy it in 5 gal. plus it is nice to have extra around)
- 5 gal primer
- 10 lbs of TSP
- 2 gal of ceiling paint
@@thediylandlord1493 any tips for painting vaulted ceilings? What would you do for popcorn ceilings?
My tip is don't fall...lol. Vaulted can be tough depending on how high it is. You may want to rent some scaffolding to make it safer.
For popcorn ceilings, you can remove it (big job) or just paint it. If this is the fist time it has been painted, you will need to be careful because it could start to come off when it gets the moisture from the paint. Make light pass without working it too much. Will need a roller with a thick nap....1/2 or 3/4 nap. Also, note that painted popcorn is harder to remove. Just something to consider if you want to remove it in the future. Hope this helps! Good luck!
House with smoker in it, I don’t want to paint over wood work has natural cabinets. Can I put something on them to get smoke smell out?
If the woodwork is sealed with a lacquer or polyurethane, the smell is likely just on the surface. I definitely would not use TSP if they have a finish on them. It will dull the finish. I would try some Dawn dish soap first. Maybe move on to like a Crud Cutter if that doesn't work.
i have an unfinished basement that has a cigarette smoke odor. could you just mix the TSP and dawn into a sprayer and hit all joists, underside of floors and foundation walls?
The TSP and Dawn is to remove the oils to prep for paint. The BIN is what seals in the smell.
What did you use to remove the stains from the tub im currently using the bin that you used on the walls 2 5ers 168 per bucket I'm only wondering cause my father passed away april and trying to fix house up for my wife and kids to move in
Michael...sorry about your father.
I think we just used scrubbing bubbles and comet on the tub. I have got a few comments saying Windex with a magic eraser works well too.
A Scrub Daddy and a Bissell Sure Shot steamer works well too.
@theDIYLandlord What did you do to clean the raw wood on the cabinets and doors ?
Just some hot water and Dawn. I would be a nervous using TSP on finished wood. It is probably a little too harsh.
It's always so odd that many smokers don't clean. I'm a smoker and I clean my house, walls, floors, blinds, all of it every year. I always have some air cleaners running. People have been over and not even know I was a smoker unless they see me actually smoking. Every time I leave an apartment they comment how clean it is and thank me for that. I always got my full deposit back. If you're gonna smoke in your house, ya gotta clean your freaking house. lol That's just gross. Who wants to live in a gross, smelly house?
Can you use the tsp on upvc window frames? I’m about to do a property that has been smoked in since the 1980’s
I have no idea. I would do a test spot but it will likely work fine.
Thank u we just bought our house n they smoked for 40 years
Lots of work ahead but it will be worth it!
@@thediylandlord1493 yes for the price in this market tho we couldn't beat it
72hrs wow. We need to do walls for one bedroom living room dining room and kitchen and bathroom. Smoker smoked 3pks a day with friends for years 1000 square feet. We are not painting it just doing walls floors and bathroom clean up. How many hours did it take you before getting to primer
Sorry, I honestly don't remember. Has been a while since I did this one.
Makes you wish smoking was out lawed....a painters nightmare!
Which one is better for blocking pet odors....BIN shellac or BIN synthetic shellac?
I have used BIN and the Odor Killing Primer by Zinser. They both seemed to work, but I prefer BIN if it is really bad. BIN is not fun to apply but it does the job.
I work for a realtor and do things from cleaning out what has been left behind to cleaning up places that are atrocious from from 30 years of smoking to animals that never went to the bathroom outside. If you can find a local industrial cleaning place and ask for a product called Knock out it comes in a gallon jug it costs about $33 limit disinfects synthesizes and It's not only going to take away any scrubbing you will do for the rest of your life on anything that you're using it on but to be safe enough to spray in the air and it was it's one of the nicest smells you'll ever have the enjoyment of walking in and seeing not only does it look good it smells good and isn't The smell of a toxic cleaner. I've used it like I said from because I said from walls on for nicotine to carpets to get the stink out from pets or pets or gross people lol. I can't recommend it enough. Good luck
I will see if I can locate it and try it out. Thanks!
Thank you for sharing this. I just bought a house and it seems to me that the previous owners were smokers. What are your thoughts on Kilz 2 as a primer?
Would you recommend cleaning the walls always before priming?
Other than priming new drywall, I don't use Kilz2. It just doesn't really work that great for stain and odor blocking. Zinser BIN is the best for that, but it is not water based and does have a very strong odor when applying. I tested Kilz Restoration primer (which is water based) recently and it did a good job with stain blocking. I haven't tried it for odor blocking, but it is advertises that it will. Definitely a lot less odor and easier clean-up than BIN. Hope that helps!
@@thediylandlord1493 you know your stuff. Nicotine will bleed through any waterborne primer no matter the marketing. You're either going to need to bite the bullet and buy the expensive shellac based primer and do it once correctly or buy 3x the amount of waterborne and it will likely still bleed through in spots. Sure you have to toss your roller, and you need special solvent for your brushes. But your time is money too. 1 coat vs 2-3 coats is manhours.
@Brian Kelly Thanks! I just made the mistake (again) trying to use Kilz 2 to block a small water stain on a ceiling. It bled right through. I will never use that crap again.
@@thediylandlord1493 YEP water based primer & water stain are essentially mixing paint at that point. it will bleed through.
Kilz2 has its places, its fine for fresh drywall and patches. but even then I think PVA is half the cost.
The little spray cans of the shellac primer are very convenient for spot stains. they dry faster in my opinion and no brush cleaning. Since they are creating an impermeable layer you just need a light coat to block the bleed. Use solids in the much cheaper ceiling white to *mask* the stain, no need to go overboard wasting the expensive paint. If that makes sense.
Totally agree with everything you said. I typically keep a can of either oil based or shellac based spray in my kit. It is also handy to put on drywall where the paper has been ripped off so it doesn't bubble when you mud it. Wish I would have had it with me for the water stain...lol
Thank you; very informative. You didn't talk about water base primer (like a Kilz option), so should I assume when you are dealing with smoke odors, the oil based options are more superior? And what about cover paint over oil based primer - are you restricted to oil based cover paint?
Thanks Brent. The primer I used in the video is shellac based. Oil based primers would likely do the trick too but water based primers likely won't cut it. Note, I have been testing Kilz Restoration primer with decent results this far. It is water cleanup.
You can top coat with a latex paint over any of the primers. Hope that helps!
It seems like smokers now are slobs. I was born in the late 70s and during the 80s thru the 2000s I don't remember anyone's house looking like this. My parents smoked and we use to wash the walls twice a year and would paint every 2 years, in fact everyone I know did. I unfortunately still smoke AND I smoke in my house...I just do it under the hood vent in my kitchen as it vents outside, however now that the weather is getting nicer I'll be out on the deck again :)
The person that lived there was a purple heart Vietnam vet and had some health issues so I am not upset about it. He was there for many year. It was a big job to clean up, but that is part of the business.
Thanks for watching!
Looks great! But change out the outlets and light switches too. They’re still gross on the wall….
I need to do more outlet/switch change outs. White outlets just look so much better.
@@thediylandlord1493 and people do notice those little things!
It is a tough balance. How much time/money to put in vs. how quickly you can get them rented vs. how much more you can get in rent.
wow.
It was a great time...lol
Can you use water based paint over BIN?
Yes, that is what I used.
Wow
Ready to be a landlord 😀
Just got a smoker house its about a 7/10 smell. Prior owner did a horrible paint job on the walls so no idea how stained the walls may be under his bad paint job but the ceilings appear to be the original builder paint and don't look bad. I have AC ducts being cleaned first, entire interior primed with BIN / painted 2 topcoat n all carpets ripped out + vinyl installed. Outlet covers replaced blinds / curtains tossed. I will then Ozone the house for 8h or so. Should i prime the concrete subfloor under the carpet or am I going overkill?
Concrete can absorb odors. I would probably get the carpet out of there, clean it, then give it a sniff test in a few days. If there is any doubt after that, I would prime it. Easy enough to do while the carpet is out.
@@thediylandlord1493 I just got done pulling the carpet out of what I suspected was the worst room and it was. Crazy how "ok" carpet can look from the top while it is sticky & nasty on the underside and with the pad. This room in particular has yellow spots on the concrete subfloor, would you also use TSP to clean the concrete? There are hairline cracks in the subfloor and I am unsure if water is an issue if it goes into cracks.
Yes, TSP will work. I wouldn't worry at all about the hairline cracks. Totally normal and getting a little water in there won't hurt anything.
@@thediylandlord1493 Painting completed and the smell appears to be gone can't say for sure though as there's still a bit of lingering paint smell that might be masking it. First time I've been able to enter the front door without smoke stink though. Hopefully just need to put the new flooring down and good to go now.
Awesome!
Hey man, how long did it take you to clean this unite?
72 man hours!
Of course the tenant lies about it and states he says they smoke outside which they do for the first 20 minutes, I have enough experience to know that does not work.
Nicotine is difficult to remove especially on some walls are textured and that's even worse. Nicotine is sticky it gets onto everything everything is orange when you start washing and it's hard very difficult to get off.
It's also all sticky all over their lungs you.
can't even imagine what they look like.
What happens to the vent walls behind the grates they're all coated in nicotine too apparently how do you remove that from the vents because it stinks?
Yep, it is a lot of work to get these cleaned up. I have a "no smoking inside" clause in my lease for new tenants. This was an inherited tenant.
@@thediylandlord1493 yes that's the best way to have a non-smoking clause or they call it non-smoking property now too.
I just visited an elderly Aunt who was ill to help for about 2 weeks a chain smoker the whole house coated in nicotine horrible. That also has to get in the beside the vents behind the Walls all sticky and then the dust must adhere to that too.
Its not nicotine, thats tar on the walls. Nicotine is colorless and odorless.
For that primer what type of paint do u have to use on top
Any oil or latex paint will work but I highly recommend to use a latex (water based) paint. With latex, you can clean up with soap and water.
@@thediylandlord1493 thank u do much I just didn't know if u could use latex over that primer
If smoke pervade that strong in the walls how about in the lungs!! 😰
Crow scolding you as you approach the door. You know it’s gonna be bad.
Lol...I never noticed that before and had to go back and listen to it. Was like the crow was warning me...lol
how many square feet does a gallon of zinnser cover?
Up to 500 sft.
I have one more question and I promise im done ive tried to Google it and can't find it how long after rinsing off tsp do u let it dry before u prime
Once it dries, you are good to go. Should only take a few minutes.
Let me know how your house comes out!
@@thediylandlord1493 sure will i plan on putting up some videos as well of us doing the renovations as we start should take a little over a year
I thought one could use the scelent right away on the walls?
Do you mean sealant/primer? If so, you may be able to get by with just applying primer over some nicotine but you risk you primer/paint not adhering and bleed thru.
Now I see why my ex friend who has COPD only rented homes with a balcony.this is a piece 🧩 of work.some are a pack a day .oh no.
What is the ratio of TSP/Dawn/water?
1/4 cup of TSP and a dash of Dawn per gallon of water.
I seriously thought there were cigarette butts in the smoke alarm at first.
was the smell completely gone?
Yes, 100%.
what was the total cost
I honestly don't remember exactly, but excluding labor, it wasn't that much. Paint, primer, cleaning supplies and a new vanity. Probably $500-$600 plus labor (which was mostly me).
and after all that, the new renter.....is a smoker 😂
Lol...no, but I did cave in and let her get a cat 🐈
Replace the yellow plates from electric outlets/lights switches
I just posted a video removing 20 years of nicotine from my ceiling tile. I used a cheap product from the store.
Thats not nicotine on the walls. Nicotine is colorless and odorless, thats TAR on the walls, that causes yellow/brown stains.
Yeah, good point. I think a lot of people (including myself) use those words interchangeably but they are different.
Yep. All cleaned up and ready for the next tenant that promises to smoke outside but won't stick to their promise and destroys all that you done. Smokers have no respect to home owners and their property. Never rent to a smoker. Even if it means putting them in a homeless situation.
If you rent to a smoker they should have to pay a big premium to be able to smoke in your property. The cost of damage repair is staggering.
I walked in to a rental and smelled smoke and saw an ashtray. They wanted a new lease so I increased their rent $400/month more. They moved. I’m glad!!!
The hours of physical work is unreal!
@@castlercthat’s sorry as hell
How much tsp per bucket of water?
I think it is about 1/4 cup per gallon, but please check the box to verify.
@@thediylandlord1493 That’s for the quick reply!
For the fridge and oven WD-40 and scotch Brite. Be gentle.
I will give that a shot next time. Thx!
That’s almost two weeks of work just to make it livable again.
Yep 😞
I’m smoking in my newly renovated house while watching. It’s the hardest thing in the world to quit
Yep, super addictive and hard to quit. I would at least go outside or in the garage if you have one. Just causes too much damage to your house.
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I agree 100%. If I could only keep the deer flies at bay. Nice video
Windex and a magic eraser WIPES RIGHT OFF
Thanks for the tip. I will give that a try next time. I tried every cleaner I had to whiten the fridge. Ended up spray painting it.
@@thediylandlord1493 if you try this method, it MUST BE BLUE ORIGINAL WINDEX, not store brand or another variation of the windex brand. I did this just yesterday and you just spray and wipe....LITERALLY.
Awesome, thanks!
@@thediylandlord1493 The dollar store degreaser LA's Totally Awesome (yellow liquid) makes the nicotine MELT off of whatever you spray it on. Pretty awesome!
Cool, I will give it a shot on the next one! Thanks!
OZONE GENERATORS?
I bought one recently, but have not had the opportunity to try it out.
@@thediylandlord1493 hi have you had the opportunity to try ozone machine yet?
Yes, I have used it multiple times and it does seem to work. Just be careful and don't run it too much.
Use Windex on the fridge. Guarantee it.
Someone else mentioned Windex and a magic eraser in the comments. I don't think I tried Windex but I tried tons of other cleaners. I ended up spray painting it. I will definitely try Windex on the next one. Thanks for the comment.
Make sure windex has ammonia in it. They make some without it....
Thanks!
Sure was a lot of work on land Owner to me rent to people that’s smocks is not worth it . That’s for me .
It was an inherited tenant
I'll never, ever understand why people smoke. It just boggles my mind.
You could say the same about alcohol, people are literally poisoning their body for the high you get from it. But yet no one bats an eye lid.
I wa waiting to see a roach skitter across the floor.
No roaches....just a lot of smoke stains. Next week I will have a nasty roach video coming!
One bad tenant is all it takes
Agreed, but at least this guy had been there forever. The ones that destroy the place and leave in a year or less really hurt.
Landlords can be pricks as well lol its not always one sided mate
This is NASTY...
Yep, and a big job to clean up.
Wtf was he smoking? I smoke weed and cigarettes. Lived here for 10 years and my ceilings don't look anything like that.
Weed and cigarettes. It is a small space and he did a lot of smoking.
did you charge the previous tenants damage deposit due to the excessive amount of time you had to invest to clean the apartment?
I am assuming you currently do not allow smokers in any of your properties?
One thing I noticed, when you did, the walk-through after you were finished, is the very noisy squeaky door, not sure why, but that is always one thing that very much annoys me is squeaky doors. On my rental property, I always make sure the doors do not squeak at the time the tenants take responsibility for them. 0:07
Yes, I kept the entire deposit (which wasn't enough). That was an inherited tenant, but I have no smoking in my lease agreements.
I didn't notice the door squeak, but since you mentioed it, will be checking on future turns. Thanks!
Geez... did the previous tenant die of lung cancer?
I am not sure, but the place was bad!
@@thediylandlord1493 As a local handyman I had many property managers call on me for various scenes. I have never seen any like this. I just bought a manufactured home and found the previous owners were heavy smokers, particularly in the lanai. I scrubbed the ceiling with the wet swiffer much to my neck, back, and shoulders chagrin. I also used a Clorox with Oxycleen that worked well. The problem with painting is that the ceiling is painted aluminum... so enamel. I'm not sure what to paint over it with.
If the paint is in good shape, I would try Scrubbing Bubbles and other cleaners because painting that would be a job. If you have to paint, a good exterior acrylic primer and paint should do the trick. I would probably use a spray gun to get close to a factory quality finish.
@@thediylandlord1493 Yeah... spraying is a no, for me. The paint is in good shape and mostly clean, but rolling on may not create the finish I'd like. It's not that big of a deal. I'm sure replacing that carpet will help considerably. I wish I could send pics of what I got off... Gross!
Thanks for your replies.
Surprised you did not pronounce it right. This primer is a painter's go to stuff. Hmm
I always get it mixed up with a local pest control company that has a similar name. Shit happens....lol
All that tar is also in the lungs
And my walls!
Good work.. a few tips
1. Use magic sponges, eraser type for harder stains..
2. Best Primer is COVER STAIN. Oiled base, but you can use water paint over it.
3. For fridge and stove.. might want to use spray cans, primer and paint
Thanks for the tips. I have had good luck with the shellac based BIN on both smoke and pet odors. The only bad thing about it are the fumes when applying it. Will give the Cover Stain a try.
Oh, and I did end up spray painting the fridge with appliance paint.
Shelac based is actually better then oil based for smoke. I have had good experience with bin and I have read that oil based primer works for a bit then somehow the smell starts seeping out and sometimes even bleeds out
Thanks for the comment. I have had good luck with it.
How often did the land lord paint while the tenant was there? Never? Big surprise, wants the rent but not the upkeep.
Most landlords don't paint while the tenant is still there. Very hard to paint with all the furniture, etc. in the room. I have painted some for a few of my long term tenants (10 years plus) but that is an exception.
I hate smokers from the bottom of my heart
Hate is a little strong:-)
@@thediylandlord1493 i know and i mean it