people are like "waah its painful to watch" because it can be slow and super careful. But the moment it even grazes a person people will be outraged. The devs of this just can't win
Waymo did quite well to get out of that parking lot! It's quite timid regarding pedestrians and it sees a lot of imaginary stop signs. I'm impressed that it rerouted because of the truck blocking the road, but then it got stuck in another alley behind a parked truck. It's interesting that Waymo ignored Roadside Assistance and went on its merry way!
They should add a feature where if the rider has a license and they could verify it somehow, then you could be allowed to help the car in a situation when it gets stuck. It most likely won't happen though due to insurance reasons and safety, but it would be cool.
tbh the cars could just need a slow assisted passenger driving mode ^^ or even allow to exit the vehicle and remote control it slowly arround an obstacle... so u exit steer it arround (it self makes sure u dont hit something...) when ur done u get back in and press the contenue ride button ... and done
I imagine that there is nothing to stop a passenger from taking over. Also, I get the impression that these cars are open to vandalism and other related issues. There is a video where a journalist was riding in a Waymo and got behind the wheel and took over because the car couldn't get exactly to her destination.
Waymo will have to add the ability to drive onto private driveways a little to avoid getting stuck down narrow public streets. The need for assistance in situations where any human driver could easily maneuver is not sustainable for Waymo when they scale up. Kevin is doing Waymo a favor with his tricky routes.
@@oriolopocholo they could use a vr headset, it's just another device. But they don't need it at Waymo; a computer screen does the job just fine. They don't "take over" the car remotely, they give it a command to drive a certain way, then the car does the driving. The phone network is too unreliable and laggy to remotely drive a car.
Honestly, Waymo did pretty well. The entire drive looked safe, and it can't help it when somebody is blocking the road. Sure, a human driver could've squeezed by, but the "safety first" approach it took worked out, and didn't incur a huge delay. It'll be interesting to see when the learning rate reaches the point of diminishing returns and how far this tech will have gotten at that point.
Honestly I am pretty impressed with the self driving capability considering it seems really aware of all the pedestrians and can go through narrow corridors. Of course it has its issues but I feel that overall it seems to be a decent self driving car.
Super amazed by it's decent ability to navigate almost all those small streets. And all the unneccesary stops at turns are a good thing in my book, rather stop a lot when it isn't 99% sure, than it making one unsafe move.
The only thing I can think of is the stop signs have been implemented to get the car to stop (in times when it avoids everything) for traffic, pedestrians, etc.
Yea, her deep Californian accent and answers seemed like a tech support scammer ;). But the car did performed quite well if it was autonomous. Driving rules will have to change for this to work anyways.
I still don't understand why Rider Support is unable to hold the car (or select a premature dropoff / holding spot) so Roadside Assistance doesn't need to follow you and "hope" they're able to enter the car before it takes off again, lol.
I agree, that is hard to understand. I guess it is because Waymo believes this is a way to reduce the use of roadside assistance and ultimately reduce Waymo's costs. I think they don't care much about wasting the time of their rider support, since that service is remote and cheap. But their roadside assistance is local and expensive, so it's something Waymo is trying to reduce and ultimately eliminate, even if it makes their team look disjointed. It's okay that rider support has no idea what is going on and no ability to control it, since the goal is for Waymo is to get by without roadside assistance. Their thinking is that forcing Waymos to deal with difficult situations, like getting stuck in an alley, will ultimately reduce roadside assistance to virtually nothing. Is that where it ends? Will Waymos ultimately handle all but the most serious accidents without contacting roadside assistance? It seems like they might. For example, if a Waymo hits a cyclist who accelerates in the occluded area of a truck (as already occurred in SF) can that Waymo return to work as soon as it reports the accident to their insurance company, just like a human driver could? Yeah, that is where they appear to be headed.
I'm pretty sure most of the driving is done without the assistance of the internet and just gps + mapping data. obviously calling the robot taxi requires internet, as well as the calling thing (though that might just use the regular cell network)
Was the pickup truck in the narrow alley illegally parked, i.e., too far away from side of alley? In my city, a bylaw prescribes a maximum distance from parked-vehicle's curb-side wheel to curb edge. Should autonomous vehicle systems automatically photograph and log perceived violations of local street bylaws and then file bylaw infraction reports to the city? Your opinions?
Same but waymo in my opinion is more impressive to me. In waymo you can literally sleep and the car will do it's thing driving safely. in a Tesla you 100% need to sit in the driver seat all the time and need to take over if it decides to do something crazy. The fact that waymo let's their car drive with no one being there to take over is so impressive. Waymo is also training now on the highway which is impressive. Tesla is still good tho no hate on Tesla but I like waymo more
@@pennytrui1149 1 big diffference though. Consumer can buy a Tesla. And the Tesla can do 99% of what a Waymo can do. Thats more than good enough for consumers. No one can buy a Waymo. With all the sensors and radars on the waymo, it is expected to be better than a Tesla, but v12 would have gone around the truck without problem.
@Cu_Ty_Pro no one can buy a waymo, but in the future the vastly superior technology will likely be licensed to other major vehicle manufacturers. And no, it can't do "99%" of what waymo can do. Laughable.
@@Cu_Ty_Pro i agree with everything except that Tesla wouldn't have gotten pass that truck. Waymo uses lidar which can calculate detail better then a camera can down to the centimeter. Waymo knows what it can and can't squeeze through. Also waymo is kinda a wide car not as slim as the Tesla but even then it resolved the issue by itself.
If at all possible, I will avoid driverless taxis like the plague! I also fate automatic transmission, and anything that thinks it's a better driver than me! 😉😉😉
Come on.. A reverse in that Alley like that is better than most people can do. Remote or not.. Also other people will be waiting for a ride whilst you tie a car up for hours.. dork
I am wondering why you keep updating your destination in these videos. If I were taking a Waymo, I would just have one place to go, and I would get somewhere and get out of the car.
Lets be honest, we don’t want this on our streets. Imagine the chaos 😅 It aint cyberpunk. At least i hope i don’t have to live with this joke. But i do agree its much fun to just watch the UA-cam video’s.
This is ridiculous!!!!!! What does Waymo do, take you on a scenic route through all the parking lots, etc. I would never get a ride in one of these vehicles. Glad you did a video on the ride.
I think you literally just made this video. To critique the car, you had nowhere to go. You just kept adding stops, finding the smallest roads to send it down It's almost like a child with a new toy smh
Why do we want this technology? Maybe to pay monthly subscription fees for using it? Or will it be limited to pay-to-ride services so taxi/Uber drivers are no longer needed?
i feel bad for the car because you have too much time on your hands.
The car has no feelings, and all the driving glitches provide useful feedback for the developers to improve future performance.
That is the most hilarious comment!!!! 🤣
people are like "waah its painful to watch" because it can be slow and super careful. But the moment it even grazes a person people will be outraged. The devs of this just can't win
There are these things called people that will drive rideshare on these apps for almost no money. Even provide a car with them.
The Waymo car was like: "I'm a strong, independent Waymo and I don't need no roadside assistance!"
Waymo did quite well to get out of that parking lot! It's quite timid regarding pedestrians and it sees a lot of imaginary stop signs. I'm impressed that it rerouted because of the truck blocking the road, but then it got stuck in another alley behind a parked truck. It's interesting that Waymo ignored Roadside Assistance and went on its merry way!
I do like how it's careful around pedestrians.
The car really said: "Roadside assistance is here?! Imma do a pro gamer move and put it in reverse!"
that pullover location at the end 💀
That's the car revanche, "Hope you get mugged buddy" 😂😂😂
They should add a feature where if the rider has a license and they could verify it somehow, then you could be allowed to help the car in a situation when it gets stuck. It most likely won't happen though due to insurance reasons and safety, but it would be cool.
tbh the cars could just need a slow assisted passenger driving mode ^^ or even allow to exit the vehicle and remote control it slowly arround an obstacle... so u exit steer it arround (it self makes sure u dont hit something...) when ur done u get back in and press the contenue ride button ... and done
Insurance and liability is the reason
@@luxaly9510Yeah ok, they’re gonna give people remote control acces to a Jaguar. 🤣🤣🤣
cant u read? slow and still assisted u basically can not fuck up cause it wont let u do anything crazy@@jezziemalvada3840
I imagine that there is nothing to stop a passenger from taking over. Also, I get the impression that these cars are open to vandalism and other related issues. There is a video where a journalist was riding in a Waymo and got behind the wheel and took over because the car couldn't get exactly to her destination.
feel sorry for those that are going to be inconvenienced like that Amazon driver
Like amazon drivers arent already inconveniencing everyone else, and the true asshole here is that illegally parked truck.
there was enough space even for that amazon van @@yeahnoway111
@@yeahnoway111 Don’t order then. Keep crying ;)
Waymo will have to add the ability to drive onto private driveways a little to avoid getting stuck down narrow public streets. The need for assistance in situations where any human driver could easily maneuver is not sustainable for Waymo when they scale up.
Kevin is doing Waymo a favor with his tricky routes.
Strange to me that they haven't got a team of drivers that can remotely connect and take over the car using a VR headset
@@oriolopocholo they could use a vr headset, it's just another device. But they don't need it at Waymo; a computer screen does the job just fine. They don't "take over" the car remotely, they give it a command to drive a certain way, then the car does the driving. The phone network is too unreliable and laggy to remotely drive a car.
@@charliedoyle7824 To be honest 5G Is perfectly capable of driving cars real-time
@@oriolopocholo I think the delay might be a bit too risky for full manual control.
@@oriolopocholoI'm pretty sure it's not legal for them to do that
Man, Phoenix could never compete. this city layout is ridiculous and makes for crazy good content
Honestly, Waymo did pretty well. The entire drive looked safe, and it can't help it when somebody is blocking the road. Sure, a human driver could've squeezed by, but the "safety first" approach it took worked out, and didn't incur a huge delay. It'll be interesting to see when the learning rate reaches the point of diminishing returns and how far this tech will have gotten at that point.
Honestly I am pretty impressed with the self driving capability considering it seems really aware of all the pedestrians and can go through narrow corridors. Of course it has its issues but I feel that overall it seems to be a decent self driving car.
Super amazed by it's decent ability to navigate almost all those small streets.
And all the unneccesary stops at turns are a good thing in my book, rather stop a lot when it isn't 99% sure, than it making one unsafe move.
The only thing I can think of is the stop signs have been implemented to get the car to stop (in times when it avoids everything) for traffic, pedestrians, etc.
I assumed you worked for Waymo before I saw the comments. Nice video and it would be interesting to looking at this with some of their engineers
So many obstacles for Waymo in this vid
I love the way the tech support is in India...funny
Yea, her deep Californian accent and answers seemed like a tech support scammer ;). But the car did performed quite well if it was autonomous. Driving rules will have to change for this to work anyways.
Great video, perfect example as to why these vehicles should not be on the road. A car with a driver would know to just go around the stopped truck.
I think the turn signal was on more than not.
All the phantom stop signs are interesting... kinda sloppy really
i think uncontrolled intersections are automatically treated as stops in their software. pretty sure it's done for safety reasons.
@@wadssthat's totally fair
Good point though there’s one later on with clear right of way
it uses alleys a lot. are you setting alley destinations as well to get it trapped? :)
You've voice is so soothing
I was thinking about a way that these can be improved and then I realized I just reinvented the taxi business
I know amazon tore their ass up for the 3 minute stop😂
Escapes Rescue Team
I still don't understand why Rider Support is unable to hold the car (or select a premature dropoff / holding spot) so Roadside Assistance doesn't need to follow you and "hope" they're able to enter the car before it takes off again, lol.
I agree, that is hard to understand. I guess it is because Waymo believes this is a way to reduce the use of roadside assistance and ultimately reduce Waymo's costs. I think they don't care much about wasting the time of their rider support, since that service is remote and cheap. But their roadside assistance is local and expensive, so it's something Waymo is trying to reduce and ultimately eliminate, even if it makes their team look disjointed. It's okay that rider support has no idea what is going on and no ability to control it, since the goal is for Waymo is to get by without roadside assistance. Their thinking is that forcing Waymos to deal with difficult situations, like getting stuck in an alley, will ultimately reduce roadside assistance to virtually nothing.
Is that where it ends? Will Waymos ultimately handle all but the most serious accidents without contacting roadside assistance? It seems like they might. For example, if a Waymo hits a cyclist who accelerates in the occluded area of a truck (as already occurred in SF) can that Waymo return to work as soon as it reports the accident to their insurance company, just like a human driver could? Yeah, that is where they appear to be headed.
there is no way that this is more economical than just having an actual driver :'D
Imagine internet disconnect 😂
I'm pretty sure most of the driving is done without the assistance of the internet and just gps + mapping data. obviously calling the robot taxi requires internet, as well as the calling thing (though that might just use the regular cell network)
Honestly it drives better than a lot of the drivers I see in my state (Florida)
Was the pickup truck in the narrow alley illegally parked, i.e., too far away from side of alley? In my city, a bylaw prescribes a maximum distance from parked-vehicle's curb-side wheel to curb edge.
Should autonomous vehicle systems automatically photograph and log perceived violations of local street bylaws and then file bylaw infraction reports to the city?
Your opinions?
4:49 i think it's not map error .. the red sign on the left side fence is Stop sign I think?
Nope not a stop sign.
yeah, so then it kinda is a map error..
Best nav system it sees everything' alive and moving
These driverless carss struggle with unfamiliar situations.
I guess if they in partnership with Jaguar or just buy Jaguar itself at thismpoint can make back wheel turn
Quick Question:
Instead of having all these technical problems - why not just have people drive these cars ?
Toyota Previa sighting 5:53 😎
apparently theres a wiating list to get a ride... I'm assuming everyone is doing what you're doing... Are you adding stops for free???
It’s completely free in LA for now - just need to get an access code from them. Don’t know when they will be allowed to charge money
will be interesting to compare this to FSD Beta V12
Same but waymo in my opinion is more impressive to me. In waymo you can literally sleep and the car will do it's thing driving safely. in a Tesla you 100% need to sit in the driver seat all the time and need to take over if it decides to do something crazy. The fact that waymo let's their car drive with no one being there to take over is so impressive. Waymo is also training now on the highway which is impressive. Tesla is still good tho no hate on Tesla but I like waymo more
@@pennytrui1149 1 big diffference though.
Consumer can buy a Tesla. And the Tesla can do 99% of what a Waymo can do. Thats more than good enough for consumers.
No one can buy a Waymo.
With all the sensors and radars on the waymo, it is expected to be better than a Tesla, but v12 would have gone around the truck without problem.
@Cu_Ty_Pro no one can buy a waymo, but in the future the vastly superior technology will likely be licensed to other major vehicle manufacturers. And no, it can't do "99%" of what waymo can do. Laughable.
@@xh0n3ybadg3r I would say FSD V12 can do more than what Waymo can, but with less success.
@@Cu_Ty_Pro i agree with everything except that Tesla wouldn't have gotten pass that truck. Waymo uses lidar which can calculate detail better then a camera can down to the centimeter. Waymo knows what it can and can't squeeze through. Also waymo is kinda a wide car not as slim as the Tesla but even then it resolved the issue by itself.
Visualization at the beginning is very weird
You literally picked the worst possible drop off you could’ve found
Nooo waymo, why you escaped of the Road asistance team? I want to see how is the driving in manual!
In some countries, you'll get a 350$ fine if you drive 1 inc in someone driveway.
If at all possible, I will avoid driverless taxis like the plague! I also fate automatic transmission, and anything that thinks it's a better driver than me! 😉😉😉
I expected they take control of the car remotely
Come on.. A reverse in that Alley like that is better than most people can do. Remote or not.. Also other people will be waiting for a ride whilst you tie a car up for hours.. dork
looks like way smarter than Tesla.
this was painful to watch
How frustrating for human drivers. Very very clever but a nightmare for people who need to work.
Kevin, that's really cool testing Waymo. Does your family know that?
So what do you do if it wants to drop you off in front of a bunch of vagrants?
I am wondering why you keep updating your destination in these videos. If I were taking a Waymo, I would just have one place to go, and I would get somewhere and get out of the car.
glorified roomba
Pretty impressive.
Lets be honest, we don’t want this on our streets.
Imagine the chaos 😅 It aint cyberpunk.
At least i hope i don’t have to live with this joke. But i do agree its much fun to just watch the UA-cam video’s.
Waymo is okaymo
It's when road rage sets in, caused by the incessant self-doubt and submissiveness. Mme Fifi la Domme is thought to have programmed the sadism.
like watching paint dry
That's similar logo to wemod 🤦♂🤦♂
Idc how much crap you talk, Waymo team did well with their software
interesting they are supposed to see football field away yet keep getting surprised and stuck
This is ridiculous!!!!!! What does Waymo do, take you on a scenic route through all the parking lots, etc. I would never get a ride in one of these vehicles.
Glad you did a video on the ride.
I picked a bunch of random destinations to make the video more interesting
I think you literally just made this video. To critique the car, you had nowhere to go. You just kept adding stops, finding the smallest roads to send it down It's almost like a child with a new toy smh
Why do we want this technology? Maybe to pay monthly subscription fees for using it? Or will it be limited to pay-to-ride services so taxi/Uber drivers are no longer needed?
Any human driver would have finished this trip in a third of the time the Waymo needed. If that's the transportation of tomorrow, we are doomed ... :(
not as good as tesla but still food to see progress of waymo