Titanium Ultralight PERFECTION! - Toaks Ti Stand - Just Buy One Already...

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  • @lethalmizzle
    @lethalmizzle 3 роки тому +44

    The good thing about the toaks stove is you don’t need to burn off the alcohol like you did. You just lift the windscreen, put the pot on to the stove and it snuffs the flame. After a minute the stove is cool enough to pick up and the stove is perfect for pouring it back in your bottle with zero wastage as it has no fabric inside the stove.

  • @propellerheadnj
    @propellerheadnj 3 роки тому +10

    I picked up the same stand about 4-5 months ago. It went together wonky at first, but loosened up after 3-4 uses. It also needed to be bent into a slightly tighter curve. It works well with a whole bunch of my MiniBull (Bongo,, M3-SB, etc.) and other alcohol burners (Evernew & Trangia). One neat trick: I took my OXO can opener, which leaves smooth edges, and cut a can lid for use as a solid fuel platform. You can also flip the stand if you want to vary the height of the pot support to use as a platform for the solid fuel instead. The disassembled stand fits nice in my Hidden Woodsmen brew kit pouch along with the stakes. I bought this stand on a whim and I'm glad I did. It has proven itself useful.

  • @dougworthen3822
    @dougworthen3822 3 роки тому +11

    Great stand. I use it with a Toaks Siphon stove and Toaks 550ml cup/pot. I put the stakes in the bag that came with my Toaks long handled spoon along with the spoon and I keep the plates assembled and put them in the bag the cup came in. The cup fits perfectly inside the assembled plates. Nice compact ultralight solo kit.

  • @mattomite
    @mattomite 2 роки тому +2

    It's my go to for my kit. Toaks 750ml pot, fancy feast burner, and use it without the stakes. Stand fits inside the pot with the burner.

  • @papajeff5486
    @papajeff5486 Рік тому

    Just bought it and it’s arriving soon. Thanks, Doc. Have considered this design in my head, thinking why doesn’t someone do this. They did. Thanks again, from East Tennessee

  • @zachariahlee3393
    @zachariahlee3393 2 роки тому +1

    You can turn your toaks or any other burner upside-down and use esbit tabs if you cared too as I do ever so often

  • @propellerheadnj
    @propellerheadnj 3 роки тому +5

    Ha! Something I actually bought before Ernie got me wanting one. LOL

  • @southerntexashomestead5028
    @southerntexashomestead5028 2 роки тому +1

    I bought this same pot stand from REI for $ 19 °° I love it! ♡

  • @janmariolle
    @janmariolle Рік тому +1

    This toaks combo is perfect for making rice with the Keith rice cooker. You can light the burner and forget about it. When it burns out the rice is done!

  • @walkerone9833
    @walkerone9833 3 роки тому +2

    Looks like the stakes cut be cut down some to be able to pack it in a smaller pouch,ect. The fact that the cup sits below the sides of the stand should make it very efficient in windier weather. Thanks Ernie!

  • @jedinightstalker
    @jedinightstalker 3 роки тому +9

    Stick the stakes into the dirt or sand to cool them off. Or use some water. And considering the amount of titanium vs what a 750ml mug cost I think that this right on par. Also it looks like you could use it with wood or solid fuel in an emergency.

  • @danielkutcher5704
    @danielkutcher5704 3 роки тому +9

    The cons start with the fact that you can make your own efficient stove and make a windscreen from an oven liner sheet. Boil times are similar to my Supercat stove with a super light gauge titanium foil windscreen. Total weight : 5/8 oz. (15 gm.). I use a 1.3 liter Evernew titanium pot. Windscreen diameter is adjustable with simple paper clips. Downside: there is a learning curve to know how much fuel to use. Simmering is possible by placing a tealight candle tin inside of the stove and filling that with alcohol first, and allowing some to fill the rest of the stove. It's been my go-to since 2010. That Chinese stuff is great, if you don't mind building the economy that will eventually crush ours. The time is short.

    • @randomstranger2472
      @randomstranger2472 3 роки тому +2

      Is there a tutorial on this?

    • @antduke2361
      @antduke2361 2 роки тому

      Lol the US crushes economies all over the world....their are other players now. Also why keep voting in your politicians who actively encourage a globalist market.

  • @justjonoutdoors
    @justjonoutdoors 3 роки тому +1

    I bought mine in a bundle (with the siphon stove and a 900ml pot) - it didn’t include the stakes, but the pot sits over the top of the stand. It also came with a carrying case for the stand, the stove, and the pot…

  • @mikevandebunt811
    @mikevandebunt811 3 роки тому

    I bought the Toaks Siphon stove based on your earlier review, and this is the pot stand I bought with it. Works great, no regrets.

  • @alf3553
    @alf3553 Рік тому +3

    I would really like to see a comparison video between the Toaks Ti stand & the Toaks pot stand. It’s hard to tell the real difference with just crappy internet pictures. One has the tent pegs & the other the pot sits on top, but a video showing size difference & pros and cons would be nice if you have both.

  • @chriscon8463
    @chriscon8463 3 роки тому +2

    I've got one & it works great with my Trangia &Toaks 750mL pot! For storage, the four plates fit right in my 750mL pot, next to the Trangia stove. The only thing inconvenient is the stakes; since they don't fit in the pot, too, they're easy to misplace!

    • @walkerone9833
      @walkerone9833 3 роки тому +2

      Looks like you might be able to cut some of the pegs shorter. Also, try purchasing skewers at the dollar store and cut them to the desired length. Not Ti but....just makes life a little easier. I have the Toaks 750 ml. pot with the bale and butterfly handles. At 3x3 inches don't you have to "pinch" the 4 sides to make them fit inside the pot? Is your pot the same as mine (bale/butterfly), Thanks!

    • @chriscon8463
      @chriscon8463 3 роки тому +1

      @@walkerone9833 thanks for the suggestion about the skewers! I’d like to have everything together. I just looked up the one with the bail handle; that looks pretty useful! Mine doesn’t have that, but it does have the butterfly handles. There’s enough curve to the Ti pieces so they fit right in the pot, right next to the Trangia.

    • @walkerone9833
      @walkerone9833 3 роки тому

      @@chriscon8463 Thanks Chris.

    • @walkerone9833
      @walkerone9833 3 роки тому +1

      Chris, I have added a makeshift bale to a couple of stainless steel cups....like the Stanley green cup pot and the Walmart $5. 18 oz. SS cup. Works out well. I used the drill the hole method instead of the wrap the wire around the top idea. Don't trust that to stay on long term. Never drilled Ti but I'll bet you can do it. Just a suggestion. Good luck.

    • @walkerone9833
      @walkerone9833 2 роки тому +1

      Hi Chris, I've been keeping my stakes inside the little pocket of the orange bag pointed side up with a lighter and now after 10 months I still have both of them so it works for me. Not inside the pot but still there. Following the 2 is 1 thought always a good idea to have a spare stake that would fit the holes of the pot stand somewhere in your pack for emergencies.

  • @johndav5230
    @johndav5230 4 місяці тому

    Great video, enjoyed it. Appreciate the trouble you take.

  • @efromhb
    @efromhb 2 роки тому +3

    There's a different pot stand that Toaks makes which doesn't use the tent stakes and has larger windows on the stand. It goes together exactly the same way. I'm curious if anyone knows which version Toaks developed first. This does look like a well executed stand/windscreen.

  • @moorejl57
    @moorejl57 3 роки тому +2

    I have had mine about 6 months and like it a lot with my Toaks 650ml pot. I keep the stakes rubber banded to my alcohol bottle but I am thinking about making new cross members that are shorter. I am using denatured ethyl alcohol fuel from Home Depot which is less toxic than pure methanol like yellow Heet in terms of skin absorption. My burner is a home made one (Tetkoba's Capillary Hoop Stove) that has similar dimensions to the Toaks burner. Only issue is that here in Oregon, you can't use an alcohol stove above 5500 feet, which is where I like to backpack.

    • @xenaguy01
      @xenaguy01 3 роки тому

      @Jamie Moore: _"... In Oregon, you can't use an alcohol stove above 5500 feet."_
      Why not? Is there some kind of legal restriction against it?
      Because there is no practical reason for it. As long as you know that water boils at only 205° F at 5500 feet, so you must let food cook longer.

    • @moorejl57
      @moorejl57 3 роки тому

      @@xenaguy01 Has to do with fire restrictions. They see an alcohol stove the same as a campfire since the fuel is not controlled with a valve.

    • @xenaguy01
      @xenaguy01 3 роки тому

      @@moorejl57
      Ahh. I understand fire restrictions. I just didn't know (realize) they only began above 5500 ft elevation.

  • @THCone
    @THCone 3 роки тому +2

    For a few bucks, you can order one of those orange sacks straight from Toaks. Just a thought, and perhaps not as ideal an a non-mesh bag might be.

  • @brianmccann666
    @brianmccann666 3 роки тому +3

    Idea ...
    Old Vintage Alcohol chaffing fondue Burner.
    The ones with the asbestos wick/burner inside.
    I bought one on eBay. Thing burns for 7 hours and very little fuel. Boils water, heats food, etc.
    The newer ones are horrible and don't burn very well at all. The older vintage ones are great.

  • @MarkYoungBushcraft
    @MarkYoungBushcraft 3 роки тому +4

    So, what if the pot is larger in diameter than the pot stand? Looks like the lack of ventilation will hamper and maybe snuff the stove out

  • @dansklrvids7303
    @dansklrvids7303 3 роки тому +2

    This is pretty interesting... I think that if you are all about the weight, there's an argument to be made for this. But the firebox nano weighs two ounces more, burns alcohol, solid fuel, wood, pellets, etc, is pretty bombproof, can accommodate larger pots, and doesn't require assembly of the stove itself. However, this one does cut down on wind where the pot meets the flame.

    • @shamitoson
      @shamitoson Рік тому

      Yeah it’s the windshield aspect that’s a huge plus for this. Love the nano though

  • @starlingblack814
    @starlingblack814 3 роки тому +3

    I like mine for narrower pots, but think there would be an issue with a wider pot or frypan. A wider pot sitting on top may restrict exhaust and thus dampen down the flame and cause flareups through the bottom intake vents. Thanks for the video doc; I'm going to experiment with a frypan and see what ensues.

    • @mrtru1te
      @mrtru1te 3 роки тому +2

      I've tried with a larger pot sitting on top of the stand and I had to put the pot a little on the side otherwise it would simply stop the alcohol from burning. A bit annoying and with a large pan it's really not possible. At least not without having something else to put the pan on that allows to have a gap between the top of the stand and the bottom of the pan.

    • @starlingblack814
      @starlingblack814 3 роки тому +3

      @@mrtru1te I've been experimenting with turning the stand upside down with the holes on the top and creating some gap on the bottom, but it makes the whole thing pretty unstable. Thank you for the feedback.

  • @doulos4Jesus
    @doulos4Jesus 3 роки тому +3

    You could use the solid fuel plate from the Firebox Nano or… just use a Firebox Nano! 😜
    That’s my answer for a windscreen/pot stand.

  • @hernandezjuan7426
    @hernandezjuan7426 3 роки тому +6

    Can you turn the Toaks Siphon upside down and then place a solid fuel piece on top?

    • @crazywisdom2
      @crazywisdom2 3 роки тому +1

      was thinking the same thing !

  • @ricardoneto7789
    @ricardoneto7789 3 роки тому +1

    I got the Toaks stand but has slots on top not pre drilled holes. I guess they change it since I bought it. Great review 😉👍

  • @fallyn2920
    @fallyn2920 3 роки тому +4

    i guess if you invert the alcohol burner you could at least burn esbit?

  • @redsorgum
    @redsorgum 3 роки тому +4

    I wonder how this would do with a can of Sterno? I’ve had good results cooking with Sterno.

  • @aln.8232
    @aln.8232 3 роки тому +1

    I pop it right inside the bag of the Toaks 750 and cut down the length of the stakes

  • @jimhamel7864
    @jimhamel7864 3 роки тому +1

    Canadian Amazon has a different version of this. It has no tent steaks going through the body but wider holes for more air flow maybe? It also looks smaller than the one you have. You have some good thoughts on why to carry this or something similar. Thanks.

  • @mtwoodsmen4563
    @mtwoodsmen4563 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Ernie can you use GI canteen cup on top of the stand

  • @jeremycox8261
    @jeremycox8261 3 роки тому +1

    The pot stand fits inside of a 750ml pot. The main negative for me is you can’t put a frying pan over, it doesn’t burn well.

  • @patrick_into_the_future
    @patrick_into_the_future 2 місяці тому

    turn it upside down, elevate it just a tiny bit, put the burner on the stakes, and you have a stove for frying pans and larger pots.

  • @Curlew-Corner
    @Curlew-Corner 3 роки тому

    Nice review, thanks.

  • @KrizAkoni
    @KrizAkoni 3 роки тому +6

    Turn that stove upside down and it can hold esbit too!

  • @crazysquirrel9425
    @crazysquirrel9425 3 роки тому

    Hod on there ROSCO!
    An alcohol burner CAN be used!
    Jiffy Pop Popcorn works well!
    Marshmallows too.
    Hot dog on a fork.

  • @Letsrideht8806
    @Letsrideht8806 Рік тому

    You know I was thinking about this the other day I feel like it would be better used up side down. . . .just a thought

  • @drakejdf
    @drakejdf 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve always wanted an alcohol stove it’s just the soot and mess I don’t care for.I’ve always used Soto/msr pocket rocket etc.

    • @walkerone9833
      @walkerone9833 3 роки тому +5

      I have used alcohol stoves for years and never had a soot problem. Never. Maybe it was the alcohol you were using. Try the yellow bottle Heat as in the vid or denatured alcohol. No soot problems ever. Winter climates can make your pocket rocket troublesome. Weather never bothers alcohol.

  • @Saltfly
    @Saltfly 3 роки тому

    You could drop that little stand over a small ground fire it looks like. Might work in a pinch.

  • @jeremyyeatman1714
    @jeremyyeatman1714 3 роки тому

    I agree, optimally a pot stand needs to be a wind shield and a wind shield needs to be a pot stand - why have 2 things?
    This one looks reasonable but perhaps not a great windshield with those huge holes at the bottom. Possibly the round design is better than the Trangia / Argus triangle…

  • @larasea741
    @larasea741 2 роки тому

    will a Toaks 750 set inside the windscreen? Thanks, love your videos. Going to give the alcohol stoves a try.

  • @cardiacbob
    @cardiacbob 3 роки тому +1

    I compare everything to my Ikea utensil Holder hobo stove. This is soooo much lighter, but not as bomb proof! lol.

  • @Trains-With-Shane
    @Trains-With-Shane 3 роки тому +1

    $25 isn't too bad considering what some of the other little slot-in sheet metal stands are going for if you can find them.

  • @ruairidhalexander7631
    @ruairidhalexander7631 3 роки тому +1

    Not sure a plate on top of the stakes for a solid fuel tablet would work, how would you support the pot above it?

    • @propellerheadnj
      @propellerheadnj 3 роки тому

      I have some of those "bushcraft" mini grill grates that work "grate" for that :-) I flip the stand, use a can lid as a solid fuel base, and a grate on top. Works fine.

  • @jarmosalonen2068
    @jarmosalonen2068 3 роки тому +1

    It is a limiting design. Might work relatively well with smaller diameter pots, certainly not with pans or normal size pots. Then again small diameter pots are not so well suited to a wider flame pattern of an alcohol burner.

  • @mtwoodsmen4563
    @mtwoodsmen4563 3 роки тому

    Hey Ernie do you know if any one makes a simmer ring for the toaks siphon

  • @jarmosalonen2068
    @jarmosalonen2068 3 роки тому +1

    Toaks in my opinion has never made a design that is not flawed in one way or other. I am sort of happy with my 1100ml pot with bail handle. Except the lid, it is soon in open fire.
    The stands that sort of try be an alcohol burner windscreen same time. There is I guess a newer version without these overly long tent pegs lol. It is better for bigger vessels to boil with, but flawed in my opinion too.
    Then that twigstove that is trying to be advertised as a wood gasifier one. Try keep that alone burning without tilting and then what it is trying to boil.
    Ernie instead coming advertising what ever, you should be critical to these designs.
    In my opinion for alcohol burners, the windscreen should be separate. I have one bought in site that i can't give any links nor like the site, but it works. It is just 2 steel plates joined by a bayonet sort of way.
    Trangia 27 or 25 are of course luxury items for cooking, if not minding the rattle and weight.

  • @robfoster5500
    @robfoster5500 3 роки тому +1

    I think the new toaks stand doesn't have stakes, or at least mine doesn't. It's basically the same design but the pot sits on top of the stand, not the stakes.

  • @independentprepper1
    @independentprepper1 3 роки тому

    Nice stove stand where can I find one

  • @stormkinghiker
    @stormkinghiker 3 роки тому

    Wait a minute! You have a playlist of just stoves?!? ;)

  • @jplamb77
    @jplamb77 3 роки тому +1

    Great Review Ernie,,,,
    How About White Gas, White Gas, White Gas Stoves,,,,?????
    Joshua

  • @kennethwilson8633
    @kennethwilson8633 3 роки тому

    I don’t think you can use it with a bigger pot or pan than will fit inside probably will not get enough air. Yes I know that would also reduce the efficiency even if it did but sometimes you just want a frying pan. Keep up the videos stay safe.

  • @seisont
    @seisont 3 роки тому

    Hi Ernie, great video. I use that stand as a windscreen without the stakes for my cat can stove so everything fits in my pot. Have you ever tried the Brasslite stove? I'd be interested in seeing how it performs.

  • @jackt4274
    @jackt4274 6 місяців тому

    Can you place a large pot on top of the windscreen itself and not on the tent stakes? Will it work?

  • @followingjesus1333
    @followingjesus1333 Місяць тому

    will it fit vargo
    bot

  • @etoyocthebackwardscoyote3572
    @etoyocthebackwardscoyote3572 3 роки тому

    Have you tried the "Lixada 2-in-1 Ultralight Titanium Alcohol Stove Portable Outdoor Rack Windscreen" yet? Just curious as it keeps popping up in my Amazon suggestions and it would serve a similar purpose (if it is any good)

  • @beingaware8542
    @beingaware8542 3 роки тому

    does it beat the Caldara cone?

  • @dustinvallier3728
    @dustinvallier3728 3 роки тому

    Can use three panels instead of all four?
    I thought Toaks had two with this interlocking design

    • @mikevandebunt811
      @mikevandebunt811 3 роки тому

      You can use 3, but it's a very tight fit and you can't use the stakes. Not really worth trying, small pots or cups fit well on the stakes.

  • @ashleyrankin2456
    @ashleyrankin2456 3 роки тому

    Has me sold

  • @joefrank7159
    @joefrank7159 3 роки тому

    Like it. But without a case. If it had a case, would have already ordered it.

    • @thirdwatch9939
      @thirdwatch9939 3 роки тому

      Joanne fabrics? I like making my own stuff sacks. Funny as i dont like cat can stoves.

    • @walkerone9833
      @walkerone9833 3 роки тому

      Chris...above....says it will nest inside his Toaks 750 ml. pot. Just ordered mine and will do the same. Don't need a case.

  • @iwalker3809
    @iwalker3809 3 роки тому

    Would the tent stakes be too high to get that one inch sweet spot when using shorter burners like the Kojin ?

    • @PaleoHikerMD
      @PaleoHikerMD  3 роки тому

      Likely so

    • @iwalker3809
      @iwalker3809 3 роки тому

      I suppose drilling a set of holes lower down would be the solution, but might the pot handles then be in the way of the pot stand.

    • @propellerheadnj
      @propellerheadnj 3 роки тому

      Just flip the stand and use a "bushcraft grill grate" on top of the side walls.

  • @brianferris1233
    @brianferris1233 3 роки тому

    🌲🦅⛪thank you for sharing God bless you and keep you healthy 🙏✝⛪

  • @johnnybagofdoughnuts4193
    @johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 3 роки тому

    This thing sounds gross perfect

  • @randyyeager
    @randyyeager 3 роки тому +5

    nope, not for me. plenty of titanium wood stoves made to use with an alcohol stove and fuel tabs, for the price of that stand. and the fold totally flat and come with a pouch. Even a stainless steel twig stove ways so little that I don't find it makes a noticeable difference in pack weight.

    • @emmanuel8039
      @emmanuel8039 3 роки тому +2

      Can you drop some of those awesome titanium stoves you can modify with a alchocol burner? I am looking for this!

  • @tomcatt998
    @tomcatt998 3 роки тому

    I'm cheap,,, i cut the top & bottom out of a beef stew can,, split it down the side punch 4 holes for 2 tent stakes & wala

  • @petersymons7817
    @petersymons7817 3 роки тому

    Thank u

  • @richardzak8378
    @richardzak8378 3 роки тому

    What is the price?

  • @stevesummersell_K4WXX
    @stevesummersell_K4WXX 3 роки тому +1

    Ok, now you need to test several burners with that windscreen outside in the wind.

  • @briargoatkilla
    @briargoatkilla 3 роки тому

    ...aaand let's see where this goes.

  • @paulcheng5752
    @paulcheng5752 3 роки тому

    Thank you for taking AR off your wall. My eye balls will fall on what you have on the self.

    • @PaleoHikerMD
      @PaleoHikerMD  3 роки тому +1

      They are still there...just were not up yet when I filmed this video :)

  • @outdoor-buddy
    @outdoor-buddy 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Ernie (i hope I spelled it right)
    There is an even better system from germany - the x boil
    Check out the youtube channel with the same name.
    Lighter and perfekt for all standard 750ml titanium pots

    • @aln.8232
      @aln.8232 3 роки тому

      Link?

    • @outdoor-buddy
      @outdoor-buddy 3 роки тому

      @@aln.8232 ua-cam.com/video/ikr3Qti51eo/v-deo.html

  • @ernieschatz3783
    @ernieschatz3783 Рік тому

    Let's bole!! 😅

  • @overweighthikerwannabe901
    @overweighthikerwannabe901 3 роки тому

    Seems like yu'd have to make sure your pot wasn't too big to fit inside on the crossbars, otherwise a too large one woud side on the rim and it probably wouldn't work as well.

  • @brianmccann666
    @brianmccann666 3 роки тому

    As for Toaks burner... I was not impressed at all to be honest. Mine took a long to bloom them ran of fuel very quickly.
    I used 99% alcohol.

  • @Seamus3051
    @Seamus3051 3 роки тому

    Seems like an unnecessary bit of gadgetry. $25.00 USD for a couple of sheets of titanium, most of which comes from Russia, or China. A cat can stove and a bit of folded aluminum baking tin will do the job just as well.

  • @mrwes100
    @mrwes100 3 роки тому

    Fancy feast. Period.

    • @thirdwatch9939
      @thirdwatch9939 3 роки тому +1

      I have no intrest in making one of those. Trangia last so long in compare, and is quite inexpensive.
      But the attraction of making, and spending nothing but time is not lost on me.

    • @mrwes100
      @mrwes100 3 роки тому

      @@thirdwatch9939 I have a FF that’s lasted years. To each their own.

  • @allemander
    @allemander 3 роки тому

    The “Evernew Titanium cup lid 400fd” is a multi-use plate that may work as a solid fuel plate with this stove/pot stand, if its diameter isn’t too large.
    The UA-cam fascists won’t let me share the Amazon link for that product here. They just delete my comment because they suck.

  • @billpetersen298
    @billpetersen298 3 роки тому

    Another con, where it’s made.

  • @geneo3654
    @geneo3654 Рік тому

    To many pieces to lose.and to bulky in opinion.

  • @Jaxon1776
    @Jaxon1776 3 роки тому

    It's crap