The energy content of gasoline is 12.3833 kwh per gallon. So the conversion factor to convert between miles per kilowatt hours and miles per gallon of gasoline is 12.3833. e.g. 1.5 x 12.3833 equals 18.57 miles per gallon, pretty decent for a big Hummer pulling a trailer.
Agree 100% Bigger battery is the only way to tow using an EV/ RV lifestyle. Hoping a cyber truck is released with 500mile range so I can get true 300 miles out of it.
I agree…We pull a camper and dump trailer with my F150 Hybrid Powerboost but wanted a Lighting or a Rivian. Did not want the problem with charging every 100 miles I believe for these two EVs while towing. We did buy a 2023 Ford Mach E X GT for my wife and absolutely love it!
Steve, I believe the speed vs charge time equation you're looking for says that ideally, you charge at twice your running speed. That is actual mi/kWh not nominal. So yes, since you were running 70 mph but could only charge at 72 mph (60 kW x 1.2 mi/kWh) you would save charging time by spending more time on the road. That's an ideal equation and applies if you're replacing all the charge you use, so things may be different in the real world and when only charging once on a trip. I doubt this kind of tradeoff will be widely known since sedans getting 3-4 mi/kWh wouldn't benefit from slowing down unless they're driving over 90 mph, even on 50 kW chargers.
I think long range on a Cybertruck will come down to aerodynamics. At first glance, you wouldn’t think something so boxy would be aerodynamic, but I think it will surprise everyone just how slippery that shape ends up being. If Silverado can do 450 with a 212ish kWh battery, Cybertruck should be able to get to 500 with something similar or even a smidge smaller.
I’d say big battery, not too fast would be the ticket. BTW your son is a ham (making all sorts of faces when you are driving and showing a drawing). I love how it’s a family channel😁 keep it up and have fun!
Here in the mountain west, with it's sparse charging infrastructure, a large battery pack is essential for long distance towing. In some remote areas it may be impossible to get from one charger to the next without a large battery. I have a Rivian R1T dual motor max pack on order (400 mile EPA range) so next year I'll do some towing and see how that goes.
I'm not sure if I am correct ,but your advantage for this trip with the large battery pack was being able to charge to 100% at home. On a longer trip with more charging stops the longer charge times would diminish the usefulness of the larger battery pack.
Also, it can charge at a higher rate for longer periods of time. If both batteries start to lower charging speeds at 60%, the larger battery will be able to take in more charge from a fast charger in less time. Also, larger batteries tend to have higher max charing speeds. That being said, in this trip it wouldn't really matter since most vehicles can charge at 60kw pretty deep into their chargin curve anyways.
It seems we could get even more range by swapping from the mud specific tire to better rolling all terrain like K02 or similar. Thinking of trying this on my Hummer EV.
Yes agreed - big battery pack for towing and work truck hauling out west. Charging infrastructure is still sparse (even Tesla) in some areas in the west.. Good topic.
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I would slow down and save battery power! Also safer!
The energy content of gasoline is 12.3833 kwh per gallon. So the conversion factor to convert between miles per kilowatt hours and miles per gallon of gasoline is 12.3833. e.g. 1.5 x 12.3833 equals 18.57 miles per gallon, pretty decent for a big Hummer pulling a trailer.
Agree 100% Bigger battery is the only way to tow using an EV/ RV lifestyle. Hoping a cyber truck is released with 500mile range so I can get true 300 miles out of it.
I agree…We pull a camper and dump trailer with my F150 Hybrid Powerboost but wanted a Lighting or a Rivian. Did not want the problem with charging every 100 miles I believe for these two EVs while towing. We did buy a 2023 Ford Mach E X GT for my wife and absolutely love it!
Steve, I believe the speed vs charge time equation you're looking for says that ideally, you charge at twice your running speed. That is actual mi/kWh not nominal. So yes, since you were running 70 mph but could only charge at 72 mph (60 kW x 1.2 mi/kWh) you would save charging time by spending more time on the road. That's an ideal equation and applies if you're replacing all the charge you use, so things may be different in the real world and when only charging once on a trip.
I doubt this kind of tradeoff will be widely known since sedans getting 3-4 mi/kWh wouldn't benefit from slowing down unless they're driving over 90 mph, even on 50 kW chargers.
I think long range on a Cybertruck will come down to aerodynamics. At first glance, you wouldn’t think something so boxy would be aerodynamic, but I think it will surprise everyone just how slippery that shape ends up being. If Silverado can do 450 with a 212ish kWh battery, Cybertruck should be able to get to 500 with something similar or even a smidge smaller.
Of course, a truck like that needs a big battery.
Imagine a semi-truck with a 20 gal tank.
I’d say big battery, not too fast would be the ticket.
BTW your son is a ham (making all sorts of faces when you are driving and showing a drawing). I love how it’s a family channel😁
keep it up and have fun!
We are blessed with kids that have a great sense of humor, thanks.
Here in the mountain west, with it's sparse charging infrastructure, a large battery pack is essential for long distance towing. In some remote areas it may be impossible to get from one charger to the next without a large battery. I have a Rivian R1T dual motor max pack on order (400 mile EPA range) so next year I'll do some towing and see how that goes.
I'm not sure if I am correct ,but your advantage for this trip with the large battery pack was being able to charge to 100% at home. On a longer trip with more charging stops the longer charge times would diminish the usefulness of the larger battery pack.
Also, it can charge at a higher rate for longer periods of time. If both batteries start to lower charging speeds at 60%, the larger battery will be able to take in more charge from a fast charger in less time. Also, larger batteries tend to have higher max charing speeds. That being said, in this trip it wouldn't really matter since most vehicles can charge at 60kw pretty deep into their chargin curve anyways.
It seems we could get even more range by swapping from the mud specific tire to better rolling all terrain like K02 or similar. Thinking of trying this on my Hummer EV.
Yes agreed - big battery pack for towing and work truck hauling out west. Charging infrastructure is still sparse (even Tesla) in some areas in the west.. Good topic.
Sir Charge-a-lot once said, “I like big batteries and I cannot lie!”