Narrated D&D Story: The Player Who Managed To Outsmart The Dungeon Master And The Entire Party
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2019
- That's how you get back at a jerk DM and party.
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@@allthingsdnd Thanks!
Thanks, I would like that to
Its a guy making mtn dew
@@joshuaandersen8799 *DEADLY MOUNTAIN DEW*
What a trash DM and players for alienating one person.
Remember that we're only getting one side of the story; it very well might have been op's actions that initially turned the players against them
If it did play out close to what was described, yes, absolute trash dm and players; especially dm, since dms have every right to disallow certain alignments
Shit like this is one of the big reasons I quit table top games
I would have left the party after all that and find a time to get them back in such a way as to cost them. Fucking douches.
They all got what they deserved. Let it also never be that I roll with that lot.
As a DM, "FUCKITH BE THAT DM"
And they didnt expect an evil aligned character to get back at everyone after treating them like trash?
Kuro Neko no no they did not
Hell, I'd either do the same damn thing or I'd help the evil aligned guy get back at those freaking lynchers. Just don't team up against another player, damn.
It’s at 666 nobody else like
NE isn't bad persay... Just don't piss them off.. For instance or example Venom.. Strictly NE.. However he went after Spider-man well the symbiote did more or less cause it wanted more power. But, Brock had issues with Peter which made tensions higher.. So never piss of an NE always be on the border with them.. Even if you're good you can still help those in need as long as you steal from the rich and give to the poor..
this is how most people become evil to begin with. you burn their morality when you alienate someone.
An african proverb states:
"The Orphan not accepted into the village, will burn it down to feel some warmth."
Thats what happened here
Ooo, that's a good proverb.
Very wise.
How bout Naruto
@@VidGamer123 Particularly because it keeps coming true, and everyone's always surprised.
Jucasan Naruto still kinda burned the orphanage but in a different sense. He showed everyone they were wrong and that he could be better than them. Everyone said you’ll never be a strong ninja and hokage is the strongest ninja of all and he said “well I’m gonna be hokage then, fuck you”. Honestly if Naruto didn’t make so many friends along the way he probably would have done something aggressive towards the village but when he started getting stronger, accomplishing his goals, and meeting people willing to fight with and for him he decided that they were more worth saving than the village was worth spiting, so he then unironically wanted to become hokage because his motivations of proving himself and protecting his valuable friends coincided. Also he lived through the whole oruchimaru attack and saw how terrible revenge quests can end for both sides.
By “weeding out the weaklings” he actually meant they did normal people a favor by not letting them play with such a wholly unpleasant group of people.
I genuinely appreciate the reverse gatekeepers out there.
Thank the idiots out there for saving us all time.
The unpleasant people need their fun, too. No need to hate.
@@SaltpeterTaffy - They can have it with other unpleasant people. Like how online games will force cheaters into servers filled with other cheaters.
@@LucaxCorp Isn't that what's happening? I don't see a problem here.
@@SaltpeterTaffy they are still assholes though, doesn't matter if they like dnd that doesn't change the fact they suck
this honestly sounded like the most toxic group iv'e ever heard of.
there're worse......
How appropriate that they were all killed by poison.
@@jennifercavenee7572 kill toxicity with toxicity
toxic enough for 1d4 hit points after a successful save, in fact.
@@WereDictionary I can see why the DM didn't like him, he's trying to crash everyone else's fun. Making it all about him, trying to make everyone feel bad. I would never want to purposefully kill the people I play with. Mess and steal from them, maybe... But actively try to stop them from having fun? I wouldn't like me either.
Me: Why would a group of friends be so insecure and horrible to each other? Do they even understand the point of D&D?
Narrator: "We played every day after school."
Me: Oh, duh, high schoolers.
Even for high schoolers this is particularly horrible.
@@callumdavis6178 More likely they're middle schoolers
As someone who used to play D&D in high school, no these guys are just horrible.
Don't need to be a high-schooler to be a d*ck
@@psilightning1188 agreed. My HS group was never even close to this level of oafish behavior on a bad day.
"That guy is evil"
'Well darn, now that you've said that I gotta kill everyone'
"Wait, no-"
killed by the DM's own Biased decision...well done
"Oh boy, here I go killing again.
Party: "We got you 7 to 1"
OP: "I like these odds"
15 to 1*
I'm not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with me.
Target rich enviironment
“Then it’s a fair fight”
Wort wort.
That is the most toxic sounding group I've ever heard of.
Ahh, reminds me of daily life in highschool. I don't miss it at all.
@@Trainboy1EJR Been 9 or 10 years for me. I don't miss it either.
Before or after they died to poisin? XD
@@CloudWalkBeta Shhhh! Those allegations were dropped.
So toxic they died by some poison XD
I've literally never played dnd but this man just pulled off a 1v7 with rules created specifically to nerf him
actually since everyone had 2 characters and the dm was part of it id say it was more than that.
DM: Op's evil
OP: Challenge Accepted
1v15 ensues, party dies
OP: 😎
@@alpharius8512 that is so funny bruh
I am literally wheezing rn
Find yourself a good group of friends and just... have fun!
@@josefzalusky7307 i have none of those
Assassin: everybody i have an announcement
*PUMPED UP KICKS PLAYS*
Party: mercy?.........
Does this look like the face of Mercy?
I never really was on your side.
*whistling as he slits the two of their throats.
heydoeradio
*whistling as I snap you out of existence*
@@wirtz7223 *pulls out nword pass "nice try but I have the power"
For those of you that say the ending was way too drastic, let's put this into perspective:
Given the description of the group, every single player, and especially the DM, were capable of and entirely willing to do things just like this. The fact that the DM was treating OP like this, if this isn't a warping of the truth, and the other players did nothing to protest, but rather joined in on this unfair treatment, meant that OP was pretty much the lesser evil.
If this story is entirely true, then both the DM and the other players got what they deserved.
honestly, the assassin putting up with all that and not shanking any of them until the very end, thats lawful neutral not true neutral
This. Even if the players and DM had reason to dislike and want to mess with OP, you don't get an excuse to be a passive aggressive twat. All of the stuff they did was passive aggressive. They couldn't work up the communication skills and courage to tell him why they didn't like him, were upset or anything to help him change his behavior, or at least solidify the decision to kick him out if they all agreed they didn't like him (Always tell someone why, it at least gives them a chance to understand, even if they don't agree) but no, they just attack him as much as they could in the game because they couldn't do anything in RL out of cowardice.
some people never learned that it’s fun to get along with others
@@vixxcelacea2778 thats what makes this hit hard cause of the fact that they burned their character sheets when their character died.
Damn, when I played D&D, we did it for fun and just fucked around.
This party sounded like a forced group project.
honestly, a forced group project sounds quite pleasant compared to this group. they sound more like a special circle of hell reserved for rules lawyers and people who fudge dice rolls for no good reason.
@@Kataclysm113 I want in, this was badass
Yeah these guys sound like pricks
The party sounded fun when the rules were explained but then..yeah, nasty stuff, especially since the party themselves probably didn't hold any resentment for the narrator and just went with the person of relative authority aka the dm, I think it makes the situation even worse
@@bezerkoid Even pricks can have a good side. These are straight up dickwads. Dealing with 4 scenarios by yourself and still not getting ANY heals? Fuck them Glad their sheets got burnt.
Everybody: bullies player
Player: becomes literally Kira
Everyone: *suprised pikachu face*
Kira yoshikage's theme plays- Killer Queen has already touched that wine glass.
Death note kira or jojo kira?
@@petersenior5432 Tinamite with laserbeams.
@@verycursed5585 JOJOEH BOEH.
@@verycursed5585 I'd imagine they meant Deathnote Kira cause that was a mind game the player pulled on the entire party.
"The bard died, I hate bards so yay"
*mandolin time stops*
The day the music died...
@@brianjacob8728 golden response
"Mostly this was *mundane* things like robbing random houses in town at night..."
Super mundane bro, I do it all the time.
I mean. Murderhobo mundane would be robbing houses so- correct in a certain perspective
Guess it would be mundane if we were talking about life in say...Detroit
This party in general just sounds stupid, including this guy who was fine with it until it affected him.
I mean yea a shit party but getting targeted for being neutral and immeditlly have all the People on the table againts you and the ass of an DM they deserve what they got if it was me I wolud of punched that DM and his cousin straight in the face
It was fine because EVERYONE was in the same boat. Then he got targeted so he most likely planned on getting revenge. Sadly this can happen if you live in bfe territory with not many people to dnd with.
bfe?
looked at post and got to argee,he seemed that way along with rest,and we seem to not be getting the full story
Bob James BFE is a colloquialism for in the middle of nowhere - the letters stand for bum fuck Egypt
He literally survived long enough to become the villain. Good show, THAT is the proper way to be evil. Don’t show your hand, and don’t actively attack the party. Help them long enough to serve your own ends, than wow everyone with your evil plan forfilled at the very end.
Basically what one of my characters did (although I would consider him neutral not evil for reasons that could appear obvious later on)
Basically we were at the end of a campaign, there was a massive mercenary army that was rolling through the country and deposing the rulers, I singlehandedly created that without knowing through a snowball effect. My rogue once stole an attack order from the Lord he resided in for the night. He later on sold it to another one as this would give him a strategic advantage to know that the first one was out attacking the giant camp at this exact moment so that he could launch his attack. This snowballed into a big war that spread across the country, the king was killed, central authority died, a mercenary leader went rogue after not being paid and he attracted lots and lots of disgruntled soldiers and most holds fell to his army, only one was left, the one in charge of the "impregnable city", and my character had managed to become his right hand man
One of the players was known as "the kingslayer" as he killed several high ranking noble and royalties throughout the campaign, took one significant belonging from them and then placed it on the next one. Nobody knew the identity of the kingslayer but he was feared and reproved everywhere. There was a big final battle at the end against his army, the garrison, and the armies that our group gathered by splitting up. During the battle, our barbarian lead a bunch of giant tribal barbarian that he had gathered in the hills, the fighter and cleric lead the garrison while the ranger (the kingslayer) and me lead the troops that we had gathered from the continent in exchange for help in putting down the elven civil war (where the other one killed the rebellious king). He was leading the elven archers while I lead the charge of the Giant empire (basically the fire Giants if you will even though it was our own universe so it's not really that). We end up winning, though the barbarian is killed gruesomely by the enemy commander and the cleric was crushed by sheer number. A few days later I plan my move as I had been wanting to rid the world of the kingslayer for a long time by now, I couldn't really stand his lust for blood. So I arranged a meeting between him and the Lord. But before this meeting, I cut open the throat of my lord whilst I was alone with him, making sure to not let a single drop of blood touch me. Then I let him in. While in was in there with the dead king, thinking of taking advantage of the situation for his own reputation, I stormed in with the guard, as I knew he would have had condemning proof on him that he was the kingslayer, and I got him arrested (he tried to put up a fight but it went nowhere). I had him executed later that same day. As the Lord had no heir and I was beloved for leading the victorious charge and being the number 2 of the government, I took his place. And as the possessor of the last standing army in the kingdom, I quickly reasserted myself as the one and only king of the island.
Be sure that I had started planning on framing that guy several sessions prior and I made the DM aware of my plan a little while ago and he loved the idea as he loves this kind of organic storytelling to be made and I subtly guided several of his moves toward this goal
well to be fair he wasn't even evil in this scenario. the entire group was trying to kill him off.
@@taddad2641 Yeah, it was just revenge.
@@taddad2641 they see a monster lets give them one
@@theeinertia4106 facts
Party: *steals from assassin*
Assassin: "Omaewamu Shinderu"
Party: "*NANI!?*"
The only other class to not fuck with that is not a well prepared wizard is a well prepared assasin. . .
Nice.
@@ecos889 and i can only dread what a well prepared wizard assassin would do if screwed
*Omae wa mou shindeiru
This reminds me of the story of a guy on an rp server, when a character is killed they die for good and you have to justify it if you kill someone. The guy made notes of every slight against him and then as a tavern owner killed everyone in the server and managed to justify every single death.
So in other words, the Book of Grudges
Drank an ale? That's a grudging
I wish I had thought of doing This in a westmarch I was in
@@seanwhitman8353ay wussup barkeep-
IT FUCKING TOM, THAT ONES GOIN IN THE BOOK
I hope this guy burned their character sheets and then burned all his bridges with them immediately after. Just walked out of the house and drove home, never to speak again. That entire playgroup is more toxic than that poison.
Some people are into the poison in a playgroup
I think he only talks to only one of them know
Commander Kyro they had a new guy that they treated like crap, how can you be ok with that?
nah being treated like shit and not taking shit from people isn't being a pussy. Just ignoring it and going along with it cause you think you are cool, makes you a tool. Kyro
Commander Kyro bruh you’re just as if not more toxic that the DM, you grow up
I love how often "that was just how we rolled" could be replaced with "we were just a bunch of dickheads to each other" and it still fits perfectly.
OP had a Wisdom modifier of -1 and never realized they were jerks
@solidseagul Nah, he just didn’t have anyone else to play with because he was a dick too.
@@bcbc6335 Exactly, simple as that.
It rolls of the tongue nicely though and it makes for a great pun
If you listen closely, they make it super clear they're in high school. High schoolers are awful like this.
Dm: *gives gold and wine to everyone*
This guy: *"congratulations, you played yourself"*
How does it make sense that the GM allows everybody to take his shit if at the same time nobody knows he's an assassin stealing their stuff.
Doesn't get progression items, doesn't get loot, doesn't get heals, doesn't get xp...
But by god, he will get REVENGE
The best reward!
You should see the looks I get in groups when i show up as the Life Cleric who's Lawful Evil.
@Sher Thiss You mean... D+D? Or specifically a campaign where you get ganged up on?
@Sher Thiss it's a role playing game, in which the story and gameplay is all determined by a Dungeon Master - look up "Dungeons and Dragons basics" - so as long as you have a few friends and a lot of dice, you can play it wherever. for example, I'm part of two campaigns rn - one I meet up at a friend's house to do, the other I play over discord. if you don't have enough friends that you know in person willing to eet up and play, you can probably find groups online looking for members
@Sher Thiss I honestly don't know, I usually just have one friend who already plays and I get into campaigns through them. Maybe someone else in this comment section can give you better advice
"Thou call'dst me dog before thou hadst a cause;
But, since I am a dog, beware my fangs."
-Shakespeare's _The Merchant of Venice_
OrionoftheStar fitting
@@alfredzanini
I try.
Can you translate this to normal English?
@@vallaby2042 But but it is in english, its even in slang
@@vallaby2042
You said I was evil before there was any reason to; if that's the case, then let me be evil.
DM: "They're Evil!" *Points at the evil character*
Evil character's player: "Thanks, dick." *grumbles about stupid DM's being stupid*
The closest thing I've had to something like this happen was when the DM make a helmet that turns the wearer evil, and added it to the list of drops we got from raiding a dungeon. Being a wizard I wouldn't normally wear a helmet, my wizard failed a detect magic roll that had some stupidly high DC. being a bit of a dick the DM said I could detect that the helmet increases intelligence, which was something my character would wear, no questions asked. I put it on and the DM suddenly says to the Palidin and Monk that I'm evil; now suddenly the party was fighting a level twelve Chaotic Evil wizard with a god complex that had just turned into a mountain sized blue dragon.
Spoiler, I won. After disintegrating the ranger and druid I told the DM that I was going to roll over them, my horrendous size and weight flattened the warrior, monk, and paladin; killing everyone. My character went on to stomp around the country side and eventually just took over. We had an entire campaign based off of that and everything. It was fantastic, but I still told the DM they could sit on that telling people my alignment without them doing sense motive or detect alignment and spin. Because I was pretty mad, and my party was pretty mad at me for killing them for trying to kill me.
The entire thing was stupid.
I would like this but you're at 69.
and second, I wouldn't even be mad at you for what you did if I was in the same situation, the DM just announcing that a character was evil just seems like they have a personal vendetta against you.
Not sure if you’re hating on OP but damn just damn
@@iamsnowman2126 who me?
No?
I was saying i didn't want to leave a like cus he was at 69 and I didnt wanna ruin it.
And i was saying i wouldnt be mad at him because I would do the same thing If I was put in the same scenario.
@@Firan25 I was talking to the person who posted it
@@Firan25 sorry for the confusion
I had a character (my first one, rip) that the DM didn't like and he didn't like my style of roleplaying. This got to the point where he gave NPCs more xp than me. Yeah, you heard that right. I even asked the other players if they thought I was not playing well and they all agreed that the DM had a chip on his shoulder. Honestly, everyone, including the DM stopped having fun that campaign and we just stopped playing.
A DM should be completely neutral
I never was a DM but I want to in the future
But Idk about playing with randoms so I guess its different
If you're a DM and don't want Evil aligned characters in your campaign, why not simply state that upfront and tell the player that doesn't get the memo to either write a new character at the same level or to just adjust the existing character?
The DM was Christian and the Player was atheist.
This story happened in the 80s
@@Yokoto12343 Is that speculation or fact?
@@luarn9176 its a well known story covered by a lot of people, the original post detailed a lot.
@@Dinvan Do you have a link?
@@Dinvan Never mind, it's in the description.
OP: *is neutral
DM: He's evil
OP: Good idea...
Well Hurr Durr Assassin Hurr Durr Evil
@@lucykitsune4619
NPC: Kill this person for me and I'll pay you.
Party: Okay.
Also Party: Assassin's are evil.
@@ElliotKeaton We always have this problem when playing a rogue.
People don't trust us just because we are a rogue so they try to push us to the side and avoid us from time to time by fear that we could backstab them, not realising that doing so dramatically increases the chances of said rogue to backstab them as he has not been treated like an equal all along
He was neutral evil
Most of my characters would be fine with working with the op's character but they wouldn't fully trust them
This guy was a CLEVER & SMART little weasel. I like his plan very much.
"They *DIED*
They *DIED*
They *DIED*
They *DIED*
The bard *DIED*
I hate bards so yay."
9:34
*EVERYONE DIED.*
I used to believe in the saying “The worst day at DnD is better than the best day at work.” After this, I no longer believe it. I would just quit instead of dealing with these a-holes
I agree! Once the character sheets were burned i would have walked backwards out of the room with both middle fingers pointed at the cunts.
@@dans6046 I wouldn't even let them burn the sheets. Keep them and use them in a more functional party
THEY FUCKING THROW BOOKS AT YOU! Do you know what a fucking brick the Player's Handbook is? With enough force, that thing can break a rib! Watching the video makes me wonder if they ever considered how valuable an RPG book is, and maybe they got broken bones from other stuff, like getting into fights with other students.
@@NothingXemnas ''hey can i get the players hand book so i can confirm this spell does the right damage? no your gonna throw it at me if i ask? ok ill just make it do fucking 100d6 and if you look into the book its getting thrown at you''
Id play just to do what this guy did, and as a failsafe id make my it so if my sheet burned it would make smoke that itched like a motha fucer
*Sips wine* "Wait... why do I hear boss music??"
@FluffyXai "oh that's a hallucinogetic side effect caused by the poison" - Barney
Specifically, the Pillar Man song from Jojo's.
Awaken, my masters!
Kira theme during party scene with the sudden crescendo in "everbody make a save againt poison at -10"
Alternate phrase"Omae wa mou shindeiru"
Everyone who has called this group toxic have unknowingly made a pun.
I mean it’s the most apt thing to call them either way
what do you mean unknowingly?
@@theundeadmike7096 i mean, they died from toxins.
@@reychiu2581 death by toxic mountain dew
The poison they drank what was it? Toxic.
This people: ah, we have an evil guy, let's just annoy him...
Me and my party: ok, so we're an evil rouge (normal), an evil ranger (not that weird), an evil monk, (wait, what?) and an evil paladin/cleric (wtf, are u ok?)... So, yes, this is chaos guys
Oh you havent seen chaos until you've played with my character, and my friends character. I was a generic rogue except I was just obsessed with stabbing and also wanted to install a fascist mayorship after we overthrew the king.
I was doing this alongside Karen Concombre (french for cucumber) whomst is literally insane. Among many others, some of her quirks include being obsessed with pickles, using a sharpened pickle as a weapon and having a pickle as her instrument for bard. She's conspiring with my rogue, pfeifer, to install the fascist mayorship, she mostly wants to have a secret prison where she can test her poisonous spores on enemies of the state.
Pfeifer became addicted to the deck of many things, drawing too much and after getting 50000 gp, losing all her gold, getting cursed, summoning an avatar of death which she promptly 1-shot as they have half the summoners hp and Pfeifer had like 11 hp, and eventually getting her soul trapped in the abyss.
A few of our party members switched, with one leaving and a new one joining, along with me making a replacement for pfeifer. The game has somewhat calmed down without pfeifer but Karen is chaos incarnate so it still is crazy (tho my new character never has any spell slots because she wastes them all casting sleep on Karen), and our new character is a thief who is broke and basically does anything for gold (I keep making coins with prestidigitation, then tossing them at the thief
I see. So they discluded people who had difficulties memorizing rules & singled out new players. So the guys who get left out of normal groups for being rude.
If they singled out the new players, shouldn't they have gone for the guys cousin instead? After all, the assassin was there longer than the cousin
@@notmakingcontent There can be more than one new person.
@@DarkFlamesDarkness but they mentioned that OP was playing with them for years
@@notmakingcontent agreed.
They didn't single out new players, the DM just used a new player as a vector to single out OP.
SoBDM:**Gives You Super Deadly poison**
All Things DnD: I’m about to ruin this mans whole career
Yesh.
CHUG CHUG CHUG
except this isn’t All Things DnD’s story...
I had a situation like this once, only I didn’t handle it as smartly as I should’ve. I was playing a min/maxed Aarakocra Lv 5 sorcerer/lv 2 warlock eldritch blast machine gun (20 CHA + Eldritch Spear + agonizing blast + Quickened spell + Hex). Roleplay-wise, he was a smuggler/sneaky type character (he had no other offensive spells).
The scenario was we were in this underground complex owned by druids, there’s a closed room with a shrine for praying, and behind a curtain there’s a passage leading into a maze/dungeon which the druids specifically told us we were forbidden from going into. Our fighter convinced the guard to let us use the room alone and then we started exploring the dungeon. My character fell into several traps, and when I wanted him to fly over them, the DM said I couldn’t because the walls weren’t wide enough. Not that big a deal, except that when I asked the DM why I didn’t get a DEX save to try to avoid them, he just said my character hadn’t seen the traps beforehand. Curiously, neither of the other two players stepped on a trap once. At that point, the players and their characters were all laughing at me so I just decided that my character was going to attack them (the DM gave my character a few buffs and turned him into a boss fight).
If I’d thought it through, I would’ve gotten out of the dungeon, cast disguise self to make my character look like one of the others, walked out of the shrine room, stabbed one of the druids, then run back into the room and cast invisibility. The druids would’ve (presumably) run into the room after me, seen the open curtain and the passage behind it, and would’ve gone after the rest of the party.
reminds me of a time when we went to a realm of magic with my party, and I, a chaotic evil goblin mage, said: "dispel magic"
This comment had me on the floor rolling. I've not laughed this hard in quite a while. Kudos.
This feels like such a toxic group, I'd hate to play with these guys.
Almost as toxic as that poison that Killed them.
Like I can smell communism on that group.
Checked the guys account and he is just a vat of rage, toxicity, and misinformation
Dude, this group was formed just with people that were kicked out of regular groups
This group is absolute garbage. I would’ve either made the game absolute torture or left them. What’s the point of playing a game if you’re not having any fun?
Sigh, DnD is supposed to be played together not against eachother, what a sad group of players
unless it’s a battle royale one shot
@@mysterychild1641 I've done that lol
To be fair, this does sound completely made up.
@@Myoldusernamewasevenmorecringe No DM that's already has a agenda against you and your character would allow for him to even do half the stuff he did. He got to assassinate the whole party because the DM allowed it, not because he out smarted them.
Uuh no this sounds like a fucking fun time not some pussy time
"I hate bards, so yay!" really takes me back to my days of EverQuest.
What a great way to turn the tables against what seems like a toxic group: But I don't know them. Great story!
They didn't account for the fact that you've spent the past several years building an immunity to iocane powder.
Inconceivable!
Party: we’ll drink all his wine he bought
Assassin: as you wish
is that a reference to something? It feels like a reference but im not sure what it could be referencing .
@@Blossoming_Fate ever watch princess bride?
@@datboi1102 nope
All the mean-spirited players deserved the fate coming to them, and the DM was terrible!
Yeah, I thought all the characters were supposed to be Good, some of them Lawful Good? WTF is that about? "Yes, my Lawful Good Paladin collects all the Fighter's stuff into a pile so that we can steal it." Quality RPing there. Doesn't matter if the Assassin is evil, you can't just steal shit from the party like that.
this story has been told in so many versions even had one guy in a queue at a convention try to claim it as his own (he screwed it up terribly)
This sounds both amazing (for the skill in which the player enacts vengeance) and horrifying (for how toxic, mean spirited, and crazy the whole group was, narrator included).
Any table that acts this way towards a single player deserves what comes to them. Idk if I would have done the same thing. I would have felt really targeted and just not come back to the group. Well at least I would have tried to talk to them first. But the way the DM treated you was really rude. And the players were being dicks as well. I’m glad you got back at them and killed all their characters. They deserved it.
There's some one in my Pathfinder group that seems to have a personal vendetta against me because my character is chaotic evil. He is supposedly chaotic good, yet he always threatened to kill me with this black hole kind of orb, and he tried to kill me when I was gone for a wedding. He's trying to get a airship, and if he get me irritated enough, there's nothing that a properly placed disintigrate spell or two to the energy source that keeps the ship airborne wouldn't fix. That would teach him not to piss off the wizard. Though I am so glad that he's not in the DnD campaign I'm in. I have a homebrew character that is a daywalker (Think of Blade, and blood arcana (Which it is called in DnD Beyond), is a arcane tradition for the wizard.) blood mage, who is neutral evil, and he would basically be, 'She's a vampire, kill her!' This just reminds me of this one person in my group.
@@KeiyarlaDraga Are you thinking of Blood Hunter? I can't seem to find blood arcana on DnD Beyond.
@0DEADZERO I suppose it depends on how the person plays their character. If someone is a toxic player and is constantly sneaking in to steal all your health potions instead of going out to buy their own I'm pretty sure you'd have it out for them too, but since your "character" isn't aware of it then you'd be pretty limited in your responses. The only perspective you have in this scenario is from the person perpetrating the actions, so of course it's going to make them sound like the victim.
This player participated in "weeding out weak players" and "burning character sheets" he deserves no sympathy for being targeted with his own behavior
I mean, I can kinda see how Chaotic Good would hate you, but I guess that's a bit too far.
Isn't DnD about having fun with friends? What's the point in playing if you're just going to hate it?
The point is to *Kill them all*
@@Nuclearburrit0 *Do it. I swear that all the power in the world will be yours if you just kill them. Come on. KILL THEM*
Congrats, you've gotten yourself a cursed rock which feels as cold as death itself. It has been in many hands and killed equally as many. Legend has it, it whispers evil ideas into your mind over and over again. Only the fewest manage to resist the evil urges of the rock.
@@totallyrealspiderman The legendary pebble of pig smiting?
the point of their game is about self preservation so that you would think twice before before doing anything.. and he is NE and a smart one did i mention they literally burn character sheets.. it's like dnd on hardcore mode
this is the story that got me watching dnd stories. not once in the campaign did anyone in the party endear themselves to this guys fighter or try to make friends, they made it very clear from the beginning that they all saw him as expendable cannon fodder. No heals from your party is usually a death sentence, to make it out of the campaign on just your own heals is nothing short of miraculous. in the end they all got what was coming to them
I had a high school DM who was a "Me vs. the party" type; he was gleeful when he got the party to turn against itself. My character wound up winning that inter-party battle, then killed his allies and committed suicide; as I was packing up my stuff just afterwards, in preparation for leaving the group, I said to the DM, "And that's why you don't mess with your players for your own ego." Even as a freshman, I knew that kind of gaming was toxic and not a fun way to spend my time. Funny thing is, they begged me to come back, and then left the DM in question when I made it clear that I wouldn't be gaming against a no-save, no-chance, no-hope DM who was on a power trip. We wound up having a great gaming group through high school.
I love this, the DM creates a poison to kill him, and when he survives he uses it to kill everyone
Straight out draws the uno reverse card
Never get in a battle of wits with a Sicilian Assassin, when DEATH is on the line. :P
I generally don't approve of Team killing.
But that DM asked for it.
The DM _and_ the party
DynamicWorlds dude how
@@7evenZee Taking all of his equipment and adding it to the party loot for the adventure?
TheRodentMastermind didn’t the DM say that he was stealing so u can take from him? Or something
@@7evenZee Jesus the comment section brainlets... THEY STOLE HIS STUFF DIPSHIT!!
Outed as an evil character.
Pocketed a potent poison.
Stole a poison resist item.
Served everyone wine.
And no one for one second suspected a thing?
Either this absolutely didn’t happen, or this group is the most gormless, shockingly unobservant group on the planet.
I know which one I’d bet on. Lol.
@@Joe-sr6de Well, if you believe that, you'll believe anything. Story is far too good to be true.
Well i defense of this story. They were all playing characters in the high teens, and this story happened over the course of many days. The OP just singled out the important points that lead to the conclusion.
L F the people l know this but do the characters know this? No they got split up when he collected the poison, most likely rolled high enough slight of hand to not get caught taking the periapt, and the wine, some were suspicious but had to drink in character since OP’s character drank so they assume it’s safe. But yes it is a very movie esque story but that happens a lot in real life so still believable.
It was a group of teens who played dayly for a week. You don't remember every little detail of every situation.
I bet you also miss alot of details when you play dnd, if you play dnd.
@@berndarndt9924 Speak for yourself. What's the point of playing D&D at all if you're not going to immerse yourself and pay attention? You might miss details. I don't. And I keep notes.
The closest I ever got to this was when I(a cleric of Tiamat) and a tiefling rogue were not really team players but were. Though the paladin didn't know we were evil until later... We would help in battles but if either of us found hidden treasures we only split them between the pair. We had been expecting a split in the party you see.
So when we reached the capital the dm used our organization as the main villains, so we had to choose between a paladin that would string us up for just being alive or our employers.
We did just that and the whole road instantly became a mountain. Instead of a large organized unit there was one rather incompetent guy. In the end we managed to ambush and kill the king's advisor in an alley(we were level 5s, he was a level 22 sorceror), gain the loyalty of an illegal sorceress, and managed to kill the king despite having the party and the royal guard working against us. We had aimed for using poison and had paid off the chef but the paladin just so had happened to walk past the kitchens and was curious about what the main chef was putting in the soup he was making for some reason.
"Yeah that guy's totally evil, we're Good tho"
Proceeds to steal his items and split them up in front of him
Yeah, there's some questionable alignment choices here... "He's Evil(tm), so even thought I am Good(tm), I can be evil to the Evil(tm) character with no consequences to my character development!" No.
What an absolutely horrible DM, and a horrible group.
Yes! Why play like this?the game is supposed to be fun for everyone. I would rather not play, than to be with people like that.
To be fair, the narrator seemed more than up to the challenge. Everyone even the DM verses one guy, and he wins? That’s a good day
I've read the original post, aparently they treated Op like this because of his religious preferences
Karma is a b*tch when it comes to people being scumbags, break your own rules the one offended against bends the rules to kick you in the balls
@@sinnerthesinful552 In my group we made a unspoken pact not to discuss matters like politics/religion because let's face it, D&D is meant to take us out of those realities.
Also that still seems like a dick move
That DM's got no on else to be mad at but himself, he targeted the assassin player, and it came back to bite the whole party in the rear flank. Best revenge ever.
"We got you outnumbered."
"That's true. But you are clearly outmatched."
dm needs to not be bias..bias dms ruin games.
You mean "biased". www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias#note-1
Don’t need to correct people but scince you have I think you find power in correcting people and I know I spelled a word wrong
Collette Scott You are very right!
You spelled since wrong.
Yup
And in this case it resulted in everyone's players to die
@@bodar biesed* idiot
Ya know, Good dosn't mean bully evil. Good means stop evil. Iff possible, show it its errors. Be the example, not the problem. I really hate it when "good" characters think that someome being evil means they're open season to be tortured, bullied, mudered unprovoked, and alienated. Good is better than that, it MUST be better than that, otherwise its just evil hiding behind a mask of good.
Also I love it when the Evil person treats people better than the heroes, than cunningly turns the heroes own evil on itself. Very classy job.
@Skyler Caillouet D&D zen master!
I read somewhere an interpretation of character alignment I’m rather fond of.
Good characters are concerned with others before themselves. They’re the Dekus of Tabletop: I’m going to save these people, not for what it gets me and without concern for my own safety, because it’s the right thing to do.
Neutral characters are concerned by their close allies and themselves before outsiders. I’ll save these people if it’s feasible without sacrificing my allies and/or myself in the process, or if the reward is substantial enough to warrant the risk.
Evil characters are most concerned with themselves above all. “I couldn’t give a damn if your village burns, what’s in it for me if I bother to save it?”
Winter has come for House Frey. Tell them, The North Remembers !- as the last man dies from the poison.....😎Arya Stark 😍
You know what good people that torment bad people are called? Lawful Evil.
@@Damini368 I like this. I think this needs to be spread far and wide.
It is a DnD variant of “I am not trapped in a room with you, you are trapped in a room with me!”
I'm so glad that guy was able to end that campaign with a great ending, The DM and everybody else were complete jerks, but mostly the DM was doing it all.
I don't mind an evil pc, as long as they don't go all murder hobo and/or steal everything. I like players that use their pc's in smart ways and just don't kill for fun.
I'm doing my first homebrew game and didn't really put any restrictions on alignment. So my PCs come across a bloody scene in the local mayors office, they're investigating what happened when a maid comes in. She screams in horror at the scene when the Dhampir Rogue rips her throat out. My eyes were bugging out when that happened because he had been a fairly honorable character. My Wild Magic Warlock (dont ask) just looks at his character sheet and says "you have three spells that could have defused that". I begin to wonder what monster I helped create.
Hey guys I found the DM from the story...
@@rlee1185 ah geez I didn't think I was that bad.
@@scottheringer7287 lol I was just playin. 😅😂😜
I'm currently playing a neutral evil/true neutral bard with the domain of whispers. As far as anyone else knows, I'm the unlucky and bumbling lizardfolk who sings songs. In private scenes with the DM though, I'm a cold blooded (literally) bard on the hunt for revenge who pretty much thinks torture, mind control, and murder to find info and cover up are fine. The way the I have decided to use evil/neutral without being a murder hobo is to choose a moral code for the character (only hurt those in your way) and to have a character who is actively hiding their evil alignment.
From this experience and from others I've heard, evil characters can be really good if they aren't just evil for the sake of evil.
I had a dm force me into a pvp encounter with the half of the party, having them cheat rolls for higher ones just because I had "faked" a roll (he didn't see it even though everyone else did) and proceed to ban me from the campaign after I had killed half the party in defense, in other news, a bard, and two druids don't overpower a single war domain cleric with a maul
Two hippies and a singer vs one angry boi
NEVER fuck with a war domain cleric
@@yaboi5893 Party: messes with a War Domain Cleric
Party: dies
Party: surprised pikachu face
What level was the party? I know war clerics are very strong but two druids definitely should have taken them out if they were all the same level.
Around level 3, we weren't to high of a level
This sounds like a party I would hate to be apart of.
In the immortal words of Socrates
"I drank what?"
I made it to two minutes and I had to stop as well, I've never played DND but this group sounds like the most toxic group in history, I wouldn't join them even if I was actually good at it. I hate people who are like that, and the worst part is they probably don't even care. Games like that are supposed to create friendships and groups are supposed to trust each other, that group is doomed to die.
Me? I'm not good at anything...I'm probably the worst gamer in history. You're remarkably unlucky to have me on your side, super lucky if I'm you're enemy because I'm basically a free kill, joining a group with that attitude would wreck my confidence and self esteem even more than it is already destroyed, so yeah.
Yup, it's a pretty bad group
Not every group is bad, with good communication it's a really fun game. But you have to make sure you don't go to far with players vs players. In this campaign they were all mean and deserved what they got. Alignment evil is only that you put yourself above others nothing more.
But the ending is insane you gotta finish the video like it’s fucking awesome.
Let me guess... You're a kid?
It's a bit early to suggest they you're crap at everything.
Depending on your attitude and how the DM plays it, being unlucky can actually be more fun since you get to come up with the wildest reasons as to why you didn't succeed. It can be frustrating in combat though
And that is what we call a “self fulfilling prophecy’’ you treat someone like they’re going to be evil so they be evil ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
is it evil if they treat you like shit and are equivalent as being evil?
Yes, two wrongs don’t make a right
@@aspen4351 But two minus signs together make a plus sign
@@Elda.Handles no it just makes a really long minus sign
@@matthiuskoenig3378 My math teacher would throw an eraser at you
I think this might be one of my favorite stories. It's got rpghorror, malicious compliance, AND pro-revenge in one awesome story.
I've never played nor take ineterest in D&D, but this story makes me happy, and makes me appreciate how clever that bastard of an assasin-warrior was.
It really shouldn't tbh. Especially since he makes a point of bragging about how everybody in the group was always cunty to everybody else all the time anyway because "that's how we rolled". Oh, but when it's his turn in the shit, suddenly it's cruel and unfair. Toxic as all hell.
I've never heard the sound of someone patting themselves on the back so vigorously
Lol right!
Nobody believes this story is true, right?
Yeah, really hard to believe. Unless it's an old story and the players were kids, because it would explain the fact that everybody is a dick and the DM is so bad at this.
Well, true or not, the whole party seems like they're dicks, narrator included.
@@PHNeutre49 i mean they played after school and If my memory isn't failing me he said something about the thief/rouge not being out yet
@@RandomRWalker Nah, thief was a class in first edition D&D, Advanced D&D, and AD&D 2nd edition. But when third edition came out it got renamed to rogue. Probably because of the evil/chaotic connotation that "Thief" has. Putting this story (if it even really happened) between 1974-2000. Though depending on what they mean by "it wasn't out yet" it could be specifically first edition/AD&D. Since in 2nd edition classes belonged to "groups" which were just general archetypes. One of these groups being rogue which had only the bard class and the thief class under its umbrella. If that is what they meant then it was 1974-1989 Either way. It was long time ago, a time when WoTC put topless women on their rulebook covers.
"That was not evil. But sure, I will show you evil!"
Perfect attitude.
I was the hidden boss all along.
Might aswell play the character given
The only issue I have is that the image does not show just how SWOLE that assassin was, the man was 18/82, meaning that you could stand him side by side with a world class strongman and they' fit right in.
People like this have so much more patience than I do, and it makes me green with envy. I know if ever I was in a situation like that I would end up quitting the party and not go back.
I should probably just be grateful that my "bad group" wasn't nearly this awful, but it reminds me a little of the time I joined a friend's campaign partway through- they'd keep losing new players a few sessions after they'd join and needed some new blood for a fight against one of the medium BBEGs coming up. They were each level 7 and I joined up as a level 6 bard- apparently, they'd had a session the same day the dm asked me, leveled up, and didn't tell me they'd all leveled and it was "too late" for my character to do the same. While this definitely annoyed me when I came to the session the dm asked me to come to and found out, I decided to move forward and make the best of things. After being robbed and left for dead in the middle of the woods, the party came upon my character and that's where I joined the story. Immediately, their barbarian decided his character would consider me to be bait for the BBEG's trap and (with my one hp left from the bandits) attacked me on sight. Thank god for cutting words, my shield, and half-plate armor. Turning invisible and running off to heal in peace and decide what to do only served to convince the entire party and not just the barbarian that I was working for the BBEG.
As part of my character's hook for joining the party, I'd been en route with a special gift as a surprise for my character's wife, who'd only barely given birth to our first child a week before. The bandits made off with this gift and I was to hire the party to help get it back, ultimately joining forces against the BBEG along the way. So I go back after recuperating a bit, and with the promise of gold and a rare item they decide to trust me provisionally and allow me to tag along as I search for the bandits and my gift. I should note at this point how the players were getting angry in real life that I was making the session drag on for so long; complaining that I should "just be a team player".
So we find this underground fortress and it turns out the BBEG had since taken the bandits and turned them into undead slaves for his army, something the DM said could have been prevented and gained us more allies in the fight if the party had gotten here sooner. I kidd you not, someone kicked me in the shins under the table when he said that. But hey, at least it meant my reason for joining was probably in here with the BBEG and some undead thieves. We explore a bit and the party starts insisting on bardic inspiration with each check for a trap, only to get annoyed when we get to an actual obstacle and I have no more inspiration dice to give. We go through a few encounters, kill a miniboss the party had been dominated by once before, and I end up having to cast revivify (thanks, College of Lore's magical secrets) TWICE, once on one of the two clerics and once on the barbarian. Yeah. I decided to keep quiet about how those two diamonds were my only diamonds and what I'd intended to pay the party with, but thank goodness the dm announced that for me [/sarcasm].
It became apparent the party had written my character off as dead weight now that I had nothing to pay them with and was useless without inspiration or revivify. Still, I wanted to at least finish out the session like I said I would, and amidst angry glares from the others, I began searching for my gift. Ultimately, we find the BBEG, he sicks his army of zombies and wights on us, I heal the entire party more than both the clerics combined, work with the barbarian and others to hold the army at bay at a choke point while a cleric casts magic circle, and then cast tinyhut inside the magic circle so we can get a long rest. The final straw was when my character overheard the cleric (the one I resurrected) telling the sorcerer during their watch that they'd found my gift and decided to keep it, with which the sorcerer agreed strongly, and gave it to the sorcerer to put in the bag of holding. The other players around the table burst out laughing and said I wouldn't be in the group long anyway, so it didn't matter.
Long story short, we find the BBEG and I receive 0 help or support during the fight, all the while healing others and doing support/negate magic for the party and against the BBEG and his minions. The final straw was when we got the BBEG down to just a couple hits from death and the sorcerer, because he thinks it would make him look cool to snake the final blow from the barbarian, drinks my gift (some one of a kind homebrew potions with effects to combat the challenges of new parenthood, like getting the benefits of a short rest, missing a long rest without getting exhaustion, doubling one of your stat's modifier for one minute, getting the benefits of haste, gaining 4d4 temp max hit points... really good stuff) in an attempt to use his regained sorcery points next round to do this.
So, I did what any reasonable asshole would do: used my Instrument of the Bards as a spellcasting focus for Hypnotic Pattern (Instrument of the Bards gives its targets disadvantage on saves against charmed), hypnotized the whole party, and said to the BBEG (who was undead and therefore safe from charm) that the party was a gift in exchange for letting me leave with my life and a reward for saving him. He agreed, and between my cutting words and lucky feat, they remained hypnotized for the full ten minute duration of the spell while the BBEG set up magic bindings, recovered health, and marshaled the rest of his army to surround them as I walked out the door with 50k gold and their bag of holding.
Crazy
You walked out of there lighting a cigar like Django.
Beautiful
I'm willing to bet they were bitching at you while acting like they did nothing wrong, am I right?
As someone that normally runs evil characters there is an art to how portray your evil deeds
I agree, mostly its be evil FOR the party, not TO the party (Social contract and all). You would not belive the looks I get in my local game store when I show up with my character whos a Lawful Evil, Life Cleric of Bane, Hill Dwarf.
@@merrickmiller1224 Exactly. Evil characters don't harm their own party for the same reason evil people in real life don't key their own car. It's THEIR CAR.
@@Gdog4evr Like Lawful Good can become Lawful Stupid, Evil can also become Idiot. Like tell me why someone who looks for self benefit only would try to kill people who are literally their life insurance and makes looting and such easier like bruh
Don’t you just love it when your dm makes your move for you?-¿
Everyone - "Watch the 7 of us destroy this mans life."
Assassin - "So you all choose death? Fair enough to me."
The people in this party sound like an absolutely miserable group.
This sounds like a horrible D&D group.
I think it's supposed to be exactly that?
I've been in worse. At least they're aware of it
I remember this group where i was an illusionist and would make all kinds of Jigsaw existential torture porn shit just to fuck with people and make them question their reality and moral perceptions therein. I had no real end goal, I just liked being a dick. Never took it out on the group though. You gotta have friends, family, that's what keeps you from going too deep into the void and distinguishing reality from another illusion. I cared about others, just not my victims.
We also had a monk who just HATED me, hated everything about me. But was bossy, stubborn, violent outbursts on everyone friend or foe. His arrogance put us in way more danger than my meticulous plans ever did. I'd never put the ones I care about in any danger. Even the monk who I just treated like a dumb little brother.
DM at some point had a laugh and said you two are the sitcom duo of all this lawful vs chaotic evil.
Monk claimed he was more lawful neutral and all the dm had to say to change the whole conversation was "who said you were the lawful evil one?" lol
Nah, just a bad GM. Any player that wants their alignment masked just tells everyone what their "alignment" is at the beginning. I hate monks. I like assassins. GM bias at it's best.
Some assholes need to be taught a lesson.
Not to slight any political views here, but here's my stab at this situation:
I'm generally rather center left in my political views, but I had to play dnd with a bunch of staunch right-wingers. Needless to say, we didn't see eye to eye on many topics, esp. on workers' rights to organize and the US abuse of its military might around the world.
So one day we decide to run an evil party, everybody starting out low level and pretty equal. I was the party's cleric, having never run one and I saw an opportunity to teach these assholes a lesson.
We play a few sessions and characters get down to negative hit points and go unconscious without dying. I tell the player, I will heal you, but I get to select an item of my choice from your possessions. This continues until I am far and away the most powerful player in the party and nobody individually can touch me.
Needless to say, the party eventual decides to gang up on me (organize) and take me out. Cool. Ended that campaign, but I left them with the parting shot: "This is why 'might makes right' is an evil policy and the abused have the right to work together to strike back. And you hypocritical right-wingers just proved me correct." They just looked at me slacked jawed and didn't say a word.
@@brianjacob8728 "Not to slight any political views here..."
You know I was foolish enough to take your word for it, but by the time I finished wasting my time reading your fantasy story, you proved to have lied quite boldly.
"...I saw an opportunity to teach these assholes a lesson"
It might give your fantasy story some weight and credit if *all* and *exclusively only* "right-wingers" believed 'might makes right', but you don't seem wise enough to grasp that all groups are made up of varied people, beliefs and thoughts - that even among 'left-wingers' are those who prescribe to that axiom.
PS. In the story, they stared at you slack-jawed because you were a colossal jerk who created a situation just to stand on a soapbox and take a political (and you even admitted to it) parting shot, that ultimately wasted the time and goodwill of multiple other people.
You seem very eager to judge others, but it appears that maybe you should spend some time looking at yourself? I think it could do you a lot of good.
Me as a 4th level bard with a history with demons encounters a balgura fighting 2 barghest that have increased resistance. We were supposed to run for our lives. I used universal speech, rolled a nat 20 on persuasion, and struck a deal with the balgura, helping him defeat his oponents and obtaining a warlock level. DM nearly flipped the table after realizing how it butchered his campaign xD
Probably one of the best comeback stories I’ve heard in a while, love it!!!
The Rising of The Shield Hero : D&D Edition
Shield Hero didn't go all murder hobo.
@@johns2515 Only because he had a few allies to pull him back from full psycho.
finris1 Fair point.
Yes a very cute slave girl and a bird princess. Hard to be evil with that. But he did have I will crush you all moments. Also he was saved by cuteness then to.
Treat a person like a monster and a monster they will become glad this man got revenge but damn dude the other party members and dm were trash for doing this.
Defently
I was took as a scout k had a pretty messy past lost my family became a master assassin who worships the gods of death trickery deception and rape thrown in hsil got out grabbed new armour bastards would not give me my shit back sold it to the palidin of our group. He put the pices together and said this guy right here is a master assassin with over 5000 kills known to have destroyed countless kingdoms and has a troubled past the dm said you are leader now. He said that because he respected the stronger I said no I'm trying to leave my bad memories behind but we had a mage who took my armour and replaced it with my old armour I tried to knife but she had a holy weapon i was a demon i hat e holy shit. I said nope keep that sword ya got hurts. They gave my stuff back and basicly I started a new assassins guild called the shadow clan we were feared untill we were wipped out it was fun
The way he said you’re shagging the bar made roll against the clap so casually
Dnd is the true meaning of "Die a hero or live to see yourself become the villian"
I've started to GM now but a year ago I was in a similar situation (3.5e DnD). The gm was trying to make the game against me and easier for other players because I was a "Veteran" player. He had me randomly roll for class, alignment, and race, so I ended out as a Lawful-Evil Halfing bard. That was the birth of my most notorious character, Karma Jingles. That's not even the end through out is campaign he literally had gave the other players powerful magic items from NPCs and I got a glowing dagger. The cleric and paladin refused to heal me, the rogue literally tried to use me as a "test subject" to see if he disarmed the traps, and the wizard threatened to straight out kill me if I didn't help him with his shinnanigans. So I eventually went on a route of Bard/Assassin (a little bit of rogue but not too much) and put that evil alignment to use. See the DM didn't notify the whole group of what are characters leveled like. Then we went through a dungeon in a volcano. See they're two things people don't expect from Jingles initially that I learned. They don't expect him to be smart or dangerous. So in the dungeon I systematically killed the paladin and cleric through "accidents of stupidity" (basically making seemingly stupid and selfish decisions in battle like go loot a room instead of covering the clerics ass). Found a chest that was trapped but didn't tell the rogue (he failed on his perception) in which lava poured on him. And assassinated the wizard in which I told them that they got played.
The GM said why I killed the wizard, I simply said "I planned a series of unfortunate events". I told them what I planned and when the wizard asked if my character even had the INT score for that I showed him that I had the INT score of 21. My Halfing was smarter than his wizard. The GM stated that now I don't have any allies to help me survive the dungeon so to prove him that I didn't need the rest of the party for my delicately crafted character I completed the dungeon by myself. Even killed an adult white dragon alone (Still do not understand why he put a white dragon in a volcano). And at the end I said that my character didn't survive because of them but in spite of them.
"I dont wanna be bad. But if you want me to be bad, I'll make sure you regret it"
I don't like players deliberately killing other players, whether directly or more smartly. However, I can look past it and call it even if they were having a rough time with the other players. I can also admire someone being resourceful and cunning/smart in how they get their revenge, such as the scenario shown in this video.
@@Nutty31313
Yeah this is one of those groups that is gonna be bad either way (in the vid) so it is kinda understandable to get a bit of revenge and teach them a lesson. Ostrasize a rogue for no reason, unjustly....great idea.
You, my dude, are a legend
See, if I had that happen to me, I would be both furious and very much impressed. If you’re gonna be bad, do it right!
Personally, I am a DM and honestly I can’t stand DMs who tries to make the game less fun for one, but joy for others. I rock good game where everyone is happy, laughing mostly even at their characters hilarious and glorious deaths. Everyone should be able to have their fun
This will always be my favorite story
This sounds like the kind of group that anyone I know wouldn't like being in.
Like, asking for help gets you alienated? No thanks. Targeting one person? Yeah no
Entire table sounds like it's full of a-holes being overly rude under the guise of being 'hardcore'
What a terrible and toxic group this is probably one of the worst parties and DMs i have ever heared from it sounds like at the end of the day everybody would just go home hating each other. If this was my group i would rather just not play at all
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I would rather a more forgiving group
I've always thought of alignments as being fairly fluid. You can fluctuate through them as necessary for whatever your character is thinking/feeling/acting on, and still remain "good" or "evil" or "neutral". I know Chaotic Neutral has a bad rap, but I've never really played it as a murderhoboing, "for the lol's" alignment. Just in it for myself, and if I happen to help others along the way. My dad was very similar with his character Dante, an NE assassin. He was the same way. Sure he was EVIL, but that didn't mean he couldn't do good acts along the way, if it paved the road for acts later on.
The DM was VERY in the wrong here. As were the players. Clearly they didn't know a thing about keeping character and player separate. "This person I've been traveling with who's had my back for the longest time is suddenly outed by a mysterious force to be evil? Gasp! Guess I'll trust that mysterious force." Suddenly switching sides like that on the character would be weird and OoC for each member of the group.
But then that group seemed like pure concentrated ASS to play with. I hope the narrator left the group after that. Clearly he deserved a group who appreciated his cunning.
Barrier Peaks! Lol. Takes me back! The THACO Days!
I'd probably not enjoy a group like that. I prefer groups where everyone agrees to be allies, or at least begrudging allies. Although, i'm not against the secret twist "a PC was the villain or villain's minion all along" as long as it isn't just to TPK everyone
I agree however in this case the party had asked to be TPKd. When a DM is toxic it is up to the players to set things right.
@@kocashima I think two of the points when the group should have pushed back was when they took the elevator without him and the CLERIC stealing his stuff out of his room. Unless it's discussed, the obvious assumption is that everyone enters the elevator. If you aren't sure, verify. And I would imagine the inn had locks on the doors since the group is all about realism. The cleric had to kick the door in, and taking what he knows is someone else's stuff in a premeditated plan is against his good alignment.
@@bryanwoods3373 I would completely agree
Literally the only time me and my allied players ever fought was when a snake-priest controlled mind with a "magical" helmet. We never had issues before that. Yes, agreements, but ones that could always be talked down.
One of my players is a villain's minion, but he'll be probably cast away since he does nothing for his patron :/
"We played everyday after school".
Ah, the rampant cringe in the rest of the video makes perfect sense.
Someone else who said they read the original post mentioned they were middle schoolers. My first assumption had been highschool, but if it was middle school it really explains a lot.
That was absolutely BEAUTIFUL! well done.
I did something very similar, we weren't as toxic however. Everyone in the group was pretty much a good guy, all except for me. I was Neutral Evil. But we weren't forced to share our alignment so I kept quiet. Only the DM knew.
I was an extremely high level Rogue / Assassin who'd previously had an encounter with a Red Mantis Assassin whom I killed and pilfered all his armor and weapons. The DM saw this as a boost to my gear and didn't think twice about it. See he'd been playing 3.5 for years but no one was ever a sneaky type character. He'd never dealt with a class like mine before.
Eventually the big boss necromancer we were trying to kill noticed that I was an exceptional killer. And offered me a deal, he'd supply me with ANY magical items I needed, as long as during the endgame fight I sided with him to kill the other players. This was done in secret, our entire party including my best friend had no idea the entire time I was evil, and I was working for the enemy.
This plan went on for years, slowly very slowly I was having Artifcers craft very particular magical items each to counter everyone in our party. The DM had apparently "forgotten" about this agreement and per his written rules, I was allowed one piece of magical items needed per play session or level. All funded totally by our Lich necromancer enemy lol. I made a list, I slowly became more powerful until even the DM himself hadn't noticed what I'd become.
Then the fateful day happened, where we were to have our final boss battle after a campaign that's been ongoing for nearly four years. The Lich calls me to his side in front of the entire party and says "Let's end this" and to my DM'S complete horror I began my assault.
Now a little backstory, he'd been planning this fight forever. Handing out armor and weapons to everyone like it was Christmas. But he didn't plan on my gear being specifically designed to counter every spell, every curse, every weapon, and every God. He had no idea how absurdly over powered I had become due to his own lack of willingness to understand my character and the "gifts" he'd give to me. He'd read everyone's character sheet except for mine.
I began to kill the first party member, with one roll of the dice he was turned into red mist. Our Paladin was dead.
The DM saw the damage I was doing and snatched my character sheet away and began to read. He read for nearly ten minutes until he got to his own signature stating everything I was doing was per HIS request all those years.
In blind fury he packed up all of the books, dice, everything and said he was going home. When the other players asked what the hell was happening, he looked at them and said "You will not defeat him, you have lost. You will die." that DM never played a game with me again, and to this day has never revisited that story.
And that's how I destroyed a campaign that lasted nearly half a decade. There's a LOT more to this story, some probably doesn't make sense. But remember boys and girls, if you allow Homebrews into your campaign? ALWAYS read every line extremely carefully 😂
Dangggg how the hell did you just make me watch a video with only audio and still be Amazingly entertained