Yamaha MT-03 VS Kawasaki Z400
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2020
- Well today we have the Yamaha MT-03 vs Kawasaki Z400 comparison, because every time I make a VS video on the Yamaha MT-03 naked sport bike you all suggest another bike to compare it with haha, so today's contender is the Kawasaki Z400 naked sport motorcycle, or street fighter motorcycle, or whatever you want to call it this time!
The Yamaha MT-03 for beginners or the Kawasaki Z400 for beginners are both excellent choices, and this was honestly a avery different comparison to make. Either would be a great choice for a beginner naked sport bike, a killer fun bike for advanced riders, or really anyone. They are both just great motorcycles!
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My 18 year old son was able to get a 2022 0 mile Z400 for 6800 bucks cash delivered to my home as we are first timers and I am about to get the blue MT03 this week. Because I am 46 years old I have no need for speed just wanna ride with my boy. Thank you for your honest opinions and outlooks as I will keep in mind. Very excited to roll with him.
Your son is lucky to have a father like you❤️ i wish i could get along with my father like that
I’m being offered one right now for $6800. Trying to get them down to $6100 and it’s a deal.
How do you and your son like your motorcycles? Have you both tried each others and have had a favorite?
I love them both. Bought the Z400. Better power delivery in my opinion. Felt a bit lighter. They took 400 off the price and delivered it for free. Good deal.
Another great inputs. Thanks Alex!
Made up my mind of these two awesome bike. With my height at 5'7 and comfy ride. I'll go for MT03. Thanks for this review and subbed.
Love it - thanks for the insights.
thanks for the review! it's really hard to find comparisons between these two bikes. learned to ride on the z400 and like it well enough but can't manage to find a mt03 to test ride in my area. sounds like they have very different feel to them while riding.
They feel different but similar if that makes any sense...they are the same idea and very similar, but just different enough that if possibly I encourage riding haha. Hopefully you can find one to try! If not then go with the one that feels more right when sitting on it, and that will likely be the right choice anyway!
I actually had a chance to sit on both at the dealership. I did feel the Yamaha was a bit more comfortable seating position, however with that said, I was leaning towards the Kawasaki just for the slightly higher power. As a new, 1st time rider, i feel like the 400 is something i may not grow out of as quickly.
Could be very true, and you can't go wrong either way!
3 years later, how it go?
@@wlt3585 , 3yrs later, and I still love the z400. With that said, I’d love to pick up a second bike, not sure what yet.
@@jay.phillipsthank you for input! I’m looking into these right now
Thanks a lot brah for the tip.... definitely I have to try both
Sorry for the delay Alan, yeah definitely try both!
Great video! I'm trying to decide between these two now. After reading comments below I think I'll go with the Yamaha for comfort and all around handling. I do wish it had a slipper clutch though. Big bummer.
thanks Alex, another great video.
Thanks as always for all of the support Eric!
i have both z400 and mt03
the mt03 feels very comfortable
and easy to handle.. while the z400 feels big. and the seat position of z400 is aggressive always pushing your balls to the tank....
for power and braking goes to z400
for comfort, handling, and every day use il go with mt03
Thanks for the feedback on it! Great to hear from someone who owns both!
My dealership had both in the showroom. I decided on the MT03, as it was a little shorter seat height and on the Z400 it felt as if I were leaning forward a little more, which I didn't like. With the MT03, I felt my riding position was more upright.
What is your height and inseam?
@@thaik56 6'1"
@@metaldreams3595 inseam is what matters when looking at a bike seat height.
Definitely getting one of these bad boys soon!!!
Awesome!!!
Thanks! Great info!
Good video dude! 🤘🏻
Right now in my area, dealers have inventory on the MT 03, and none of the Z400. Two dealers both told me Z400s are sold the minute they get them in.
I like the looks of the Kawasaki. I sat on one and liked the riding position. If I were looking at these bikes I think I would lean toward the Kawasaki based on what Alex said. I am 6ft tall so I would lean toward what feels bigger.
Killer choice either way haha
I know this was a long time ago. 😆. But the R6 throttle tube change makes such a big difference in power delivery and feel on the MT-03. Do you think that would have made a difference in your comparison?
hello what is your opinion about mt 03 2018?Its the version with telescopic fork and not the upside down.I want to buy my first bike and i am looking for used mt 03 and z300-z400.But i dont know what to buy.Mt is more attractive to me but z300-z400 have better performance and engine.
Went to a dealership over the weekend sat on both and liked the mt-03s seating position much more but I figured I could get a new seat for the z400 to stop me from sliding into the tank as much and to fix the bit of lean. I ended up putting a deposit down on the z400 because it was $100 cheaper than the mt-03 plus I figured I wouldn't grow out of the 399cc engine as I might with the 321cc just in case I wanted to hit the highway for a short distance and have that bit extra power.
I read a review (don’t recall which one) that said the front brake on the MT-03 was limited. It only applied a certain amount of stopping force and wouldn’t increase beyond that when squeezed harder. Did you experience that? And how did the MT-03 brakes in general compare to the Z400?
The MT-03 front break felt plenty adequate to me! I never felt a lack of front break power and never felt any issue with it in the riding I did! I think the front break on the Z400 is a little "sharper" to me, meaning it grabs a little faster and harder, but I didn't have issues with either one
Just change the damn breaks
i looked at both on line and rode neither because they would not let me without buying it, the z400 has standard abs i do not rember if the mto3 did. i bought the z400 i am 62 years old and have had much larger bikes but i wanted to get back to the basics. the stock seat was torture on the z400 after 45 min. i cut up a purple seat cusion and covered it in faux leather over the stock seat and now i have done 600mile trips over 2 days with not the slightest pain. it added 2 inches to seat height but well worth is i also added 2.5 bar rizers and it is a wonderful bike for me. iit reminds me of the days when 350cc was the norm and that is what i wanted. hyway at 80mph is easy and naked.
Awesome to hear you are liking it, and good to hear you came up with a good solution for the seat!
Great video
I tried both
Mt03 has a pretty wide gas tank kinda heavy
Z400 slim and fun to ride
My dealership told me I could have the z400 out the door for 6,200 in total idk if that’s a little too expensive or not
OK but the Kawasaki delivers those numbers in a completely differen way giving more useful power, meaning you don´t have to rev the shit out of the engine to feel it. So yeah, it is a more powerful bike offering a different riding experience. Personally I´d love Kawa´s engine and front brakes and the rest from the MT03.
I’ve put about 200 miles now on my new MT03. I love it. It handles amazing, no issues getting up to speed. And it is actually more comfy that the Z400 which is what decided it to me, even the the Kawasaki has a little bit more pull. Barely though.
Glad you're enjoying it, rock on!
does the mt-03 come with a slipper clutch?
@@darzeljohn5755 nope
Hi. I need some advice. I am a new driver and I am hesitant between yamaha mt 03 2020 and kawasaki z 400 2020. Can you help me choose?
Well if you have any questions beyond what the video covered I am happy to help! Honestly in the end you should sit on and try out both, and whichever one feels right to you go with it! They are very similar, and your comfort level will matter the most here!
Don’t forget valve adjustment 42k in Yamaha where in Kawasaki same interval in rest of the world North American ones are 24k intervals due difference made for Cali law compliance. Double the major maintenance is huge.
Yes Cali emissions requirements create a pain in the neck for a lot of bikes tuned for U.S. market unfortunately.
IMO Z400 styling is rather vanilla even compared to CB300R. Which bike had better gauge displays and positive shifting?
I like the display better on the Z400 personally...but I think the positive shifting was better on the Yamaha
I like the Royal Enfield in the background!
Hahaha, thanks Edward!
As a Kawi owner ( and naturally a Kawi Fanboy ), I’ll choose the Z even though both these bikes are unavailable in India !
Also, I’m not a fan of the looks of MT-0X series in general.. Even though Z series aren’t head turners either, their looks are tolerable to me..
That's why I love having different bikes in the same category available, everyone likes something a little different!
So so sooo good channel Alex!! I'm between the first A2-bike, lightweight of course, good handling on road, will take 260 on way road trips and hours on the freeway around 75mph. Been looking at KLX250sf, Versys x-300, Z300 (ER300, if it's still out there??!) Z400 and of course Suzuki VStrom 250 and a striped 650 and ofc wr250x and the KTM 390 adventure and Duke but ppl saying they need to service them like crazy after a few thousand miles ... would be awesome having a comparison between all these somehow ... ;) counting on you haha! Cheers mate!
Man that's a lot of bikes haha! Different types there, and I have done comparisons on some of them. I guess first off we need to figure out if you want a street bike or a dual purpose, because half of your list is dual-purpose, so you can eliminate half the list just by making that decision hahaha. I do keep hearing about servicing being intensive on the 390, so if that is a concern for you go ahead and rule that one out.
@@AlexSimmons11c Hey man! Haha yes I know, sorry for that! I think my top3 I narrowed down to are either Kawi KLX250sf, Versys300 or Z400. I'm 6"2 and pretty long legs. Thinkin the 250 is pretty nice fast/slow for a beginner and I'll probably have it for a while and Can take it for longer freeway roadtrips and if I crash I'll be cool (maybe see used ones) and if so I feel comfie I could start with a 300x or the z400. Would love to have one that I can keep for 5-10 years and go strong instead of buying and selling. Just "worried" about crashing since all my biker friends are like, You really wanna have a bike? But all cool with a supermoto as a first one but still like a 6 geared one for freeways. Kinda like that? All the best mate really appreciate the reply!
@@passsacaglia I would say for your height and what you are wanting to do either the Versys 300 or Z400 is a great choice, I would tend to lean more toward the Versys 300X from what you are telling me, but in the end which ever you feel like you fit better on will be a great choice!
@@AlexSimmons11c Alex you're the man! It feels so too here, seat should be a lil mor comfy and great for longer trips and good gravel! As a favor let me know if you ever need any music or so to a reel, short clip, roadtrip documentary or anything! I work professionally in film music and in the industry. Also creating 80s retro stuff! You find me on soundcloud.com/davidkomar or soundcloud.com/davidkeys ! Thanks again for everything you're truly the man! if you have an IG I'm @komiie , all the best from Stockholm Sweden!
Where does the 286cc Honda CB300R fit in? It’s gotta be slower than the 321cc and 399cc. Of course speed is the smallest factor with these. All 3 seem like great beginner bikes especially for a small person.
How did the 2 bikes compare in *vibration* - at mid-rpm and at 70mph?
Very very similar, I did not experience much if any “vibration” myself, the twins did a great job all the way around. I do experience some on the cb300, but not these two
Hi Alex, thanks for the comparison, is a little difficult to find this kind of vs. But, I have a question: which one would be more reliable? (In therms of engines) Z or Mt?. This is a very important point for me. Do you believe that the mt03 is the best small bike in this moment?. I would appreciate your answer. In the next days I going to buy one of these tow. Greetings from Colombia.
Not a SINGLE dealer in my area will let you test ride ANYTHING. Not even used bikes. Apparently a few people wrecked bikes or got hurt while on rides last year and now nobody can get test ride insurance in this area. The sales people I talked to said THEY can't even test ride bikes.
hows the maintenance fees between the two?
MT03: is it for a single rider or can accommodate a co-traveler?
I have both of these and love them, such great fun and light. I find the mt03 a bit buzzy through the gears whereas the z400 is a bit smoother but that's personal choice.
I really should just keep one but can't bring myself to sell either of them😀
@@GPZ611 I recently sold the MT03 and kept the Z400, it's just smoother and has more torque. I found it nicer on a longer run👍
How are they at true freeway speeds? 70mph, are they too stressed to buzzy? Are they better kept for the street?
@@gigi9467 the Z400 is great at motorway speeds. I found the MT03 hard work, you're always looking for another gear even though you're already in 6th!!
@@nickyzuczkowski7782 interesting..
I had the mt03 2021 for 14 months and 8000km and l have now the z400.. very good bikes the both of them. The kawasaki is more powerful on the road has more agressive ride position and l think is better made, overall seems like a bigger bike on the road. The yamaha is super friendly for everybody with softer seat and more upright rider position.. you cant go wrong with any of them..
I got to test ride both bikes this morning and also the BMW G 310 R. while the MT-03 and Z400 are similar, they're also very different. Both are quick bikes. The Z400 has quite a bit of engine braking like a cruiser and it doesn't have the smoothest throttle response - it felt a little jerky to me. The MT-03 was very smooth and refined - both throttle response and engine braking were linear and predictable. It has plenty of torque to lug my 100kg frame around - especially on hill starts while waiting at traffic lights. I can't say the same thing for the Z400 where I ended up stalling it and held up some poor people behind me. The MT-03 isn't perfect as I did manage to find myself catching a couple false neutrals when changing up a gear. The gear changes on the Z400 were pretty crisp.
While spec sheets are good as a guide, there's no substitute for a test ride.
Great comparison video man. One question though, what is the mileage on both bikes?
All I can do is quote the "posted" fuel economy of them since I did not run my usually test for fuel mileage myself (Fill up, ride 100 miles, fill up again and do some quick division). Claimed economy on the MT03 is 56mpg, on the Z400 most claim around 60mpg
It could be nice if you showed the specs on the screen while you where talking about them :)
have actually thought about doing that, I keep going back and forth on whether or not it would be distracting or helpful!
@@AlexSimmons11c it'd be helpful, definitely!
I rode both but I was lucky to have a dealership that sold Yamaha & Kawasaki but for it was hands down for the *z400
Does the seat height of the z400 the same as ninja 650?
The seat on the Ninja 650 is somewhere near about 2 inches taller
You left out the fact the Kawi has a slipper clutch. It’s an added level of safety that new riders can benefit from.
Very true, thank you for adding that. I usually forget all about that since I learned to ride when almost no bikes featured that, so I learned the skills needed to ride safely without one, and I tend to think if someone takes a MSF course and learns proper downshifting etc that's not as big of a feature unless we are talking about a high HP machine...but that being said it is nice to have and does make riding safer for beginners, so good addition!
What’s a slipper clutch?
@@JohnnieV it is a safety feature that allows the clutch to slip if you downshift and decelerate hard or abruptly. Bikes without it can lock up the back tire and cause the rider to lose control and crash.
#DirtBike owner and rider, looking to make my FIRST streetbike purchase, in Los Angeles.. /// The 2020 MT03 is $4300, the 2020 Z400 is $5000, and I saw the 2020 SV650 is $5800 -Have NO idea what to do, I like all 3 of em..
Hahaha well go sit on all three and see what you think...but at those prices I think the MT03 is a killer choice
@@AlexSimmons11c Went w/ the SV650.
Hi Alex!!
How are you doing?
I would go for MT03, because of the comfortable sitting position, as you said.
Doing great Dan, hope you are as well!
@@AlexSimmons11c Thank you for asking. I'm fine Alex 😃😃👍👍✌🏻✌🏻
I think you are slightly bias towards the MT-03 ? just my opinion
Just picked up a 2019 z400 for 3k. Has 26 miles. Has a akrapovic too
Damn that’s a steal!
@@AlexSimmons11c it was 1200 miles away of course. Shipping didnt make it a steal.
@@gnesmond I once bought a 2005 BMW F650GS for $4500. It was located in Bend, Oregon. Shipping was $1500. I couldn't find any here in the Miami area. No mountains or hilly terrain here!
@@gnesmond What you pay for shipping?
@@Movieman1965 425. Probably didn't even pay for the cost of diesel
Is the seat more comfortable on the mt03? I sat on the Z400 and the Ninja 400 and both seats are terrible hard and pitch your balls into to the tank, the Ninja seemed a bit roomier but not by much. I liked the bars and peg position better on the Z. The VersysX I had seat was roomier, but still too hard to be comfortable on a longer ride.
I really want a small parallel twin as a 2nd bike to my Lowrider Softail. I realize I’ll never get that comfort from a little sport or naked bike, but I’d like to be able to ride it 2-3 hrs without a sore butt for days.
To me the seat is very similar feeling on all 3 as far as the stiffness etc...something like the Versys definitely has a more comfy seat in my opinion as well.
@@AlexSimmons11c Found an MT03 to sit on. The seat is slightly better than the Kawis, dos t pitch you into the tank as much. But the bike overall feels a bit smaller. They all feel like sitting on a Grom. And the VersysX seat is a medieval torture device, btw. One reason I got rid of that bike. 2nd was a 20mph crosswind sends you sailing, too light and tall a bike for that much plastic. Great little engine tho.
I’m about to pull the trigger on a RE Gt650 in Dr Mahem. Ticks all the boxes pretty much for a 2nd in the stable with my Softail. Local dealer has one 2020 left and I love it.
What about fuel consumption tank size and insurance differences. I guess nobody cares about extra hidden costs
U think u could just slap some power on the mt to make it 45hp
You can not got wrong with either of these! They are similar in what they are! A few hp is not going to mean anything the higher cc might feel a little more torque or pull but at higher rpms the Yamaha might be more fun... I have the mt-03 I am 6ft 250 and have no problem on the highway going over 70mph I never went 80mph but that is only because when I drive it is rush hour and the max speed is around 60-70.. when I was going 70 I was only in 5th gear and not even full throttle.. so I bet it can easily go 100+ but I will never go that fast...I don't want a ticket and I don't care to go that fast.
Thé Yamaha looks more sexy and attractive . I have a question is it possible to turn a bike from 2 cylinders into 4 ?
Not really haha, the engine that a bike comes with can be upgraded in a lot of ways but generally speaking the overall design (i.e. how many cylinders it has) is going to be a set thing. If you want 4 cylinders you'll need to buy a bike with 4 cylinders.
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Hi...i think the first version of mt 03 was the best because of the "starwars" like dash. I could by a brand new one from 2019, in 2020. I am the luckiest guy on earth
Hahaha there you go
Excellent comparison. If possible a Triumph street twin and a Kawasaki w800 street dual would be nice.
I'll see if I can get my hands on s Street Twin to ride haha, right now the w800 cafe is the only one available near me on the Kawi side
Everyone can do a lot of add ons and mods to make both these bikes scream. Theres many videos showing you what and how. You wont be able to keep the front tire on the ground. Ive done them and they work. Same with any size bike that you get. Just ride them stock till you get use to it then add a pipe then a sprocket then later get a power commander. Trust me your going to till a huge difference no matter what bike you pick. I would just pick the one thats mor comfortable then add the mods as you go. Then if you get tired of it, sell it and get a bigger bike and start all over. That simple.
Ok both are about to be launched in india ..... so i plan to buy both 😊
I just really like Yamaha bikes!!
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We have put a few Z400/N400 on Dyno before (including mine as well).
The Z400 reaches 44.7whp while the N400 reaches 44.0whp, both at the peak of 10k rpm.
So the claim from Kawasaki that bike has 45hp is true. Even though they are very restricted due to emissions.
The MT03 has roughly 38whp and also weights more. Performance wise the Z400
Beats the MT03 in every category.
But a bike is more than performance especially for urban use. In my opinion (even though I own a Z400) the best bike for urban use due to riding comfort/quality/economy is the Honda CB500F. She's slower than the Z400? Yes, but there's something on the 500F that makes you fall in love with.
CB500f is actually a great choice hahaha, good value for the money and great for an urban warrior
So are you saying the MT is just third best for urban use?
And excellent power as well on the kawasaki Z400.
I agree it was a great ride, and good value for the money! It can all come down to personal preference, but the Z400 is a great bike!
I have the Kawasaki Z400 and it's a better bike to own then the Yamah I tried the Yamaha I would recommend the Kawasaki Z400 for a start motorcycle 🏍️🏍️ I paid for my new for $6,000 2019 model and it was worth the money on the Kawasaki Z400 and much faster bike as well in my opinion.
Awesome choice, enjoy it!
I care for reviews where they don’t ride the bike.
Where's the actual race
All in my head since it was a head to head comparison, and I don't have anyone I can use to ride two bikes at the same time :-)
@@AlexSimmons11c haha
@@AlexSimmons11c well I own the 2020 mto3 and it is a sweet bike. The r3 would win because of the aerodynamics
321 inch. Lol.
I must say, I'd have to call the Kawi the winner here. The MT03 is both noticeably heavier and less powerful than the Z400 but pricier in 2021! Why so? The riding position may be slightly more upright on the MT03 but the comfort of the Z400 has been lauded in all the reviews. The Z400's frame and engine (the cornerstone of any motorcycle) were developed from scratch for this model. And suspension, brakes, fueling/gearing, fit/finish, you name it the Z400 can't be beat. Personally I think Kawi pulled off the looks too with their "Sugomi" design concept. So more character and bite in every sense then... "I have got to get me one of these!"