Isnt the whole critique that sneako is running around cosplaying as a devout muslim and calling other people haram, while he himself is living this haram life. Destiny critiqued sneak for it and then directly went to the parenting stuff. But Destiny never said he is the father of the year or was grandstanding that people eho are bad parents are bad people. Totally fair to call out sneakos hypocrisy here.
Yea but this videos not about tht. He says it in the beginning of the video he's not supporting sneako. Sneako grandstanding about his life is a different issue. Noone said destiny is grandstanding about being a perfect dad, but he is grandstanding about his personal attacks. and in this case what destiny was bringing up/threatening was extremely harmful, and importantly was not public info. Like what sneako attacked
The difference is sneako's response was already public knowledge. They both brought up personal stuff but the things he brought up about sneako were private and alleged.
Is it ok to use “leaked info” about your life? Because destiny clearly thinks leaked nudes are something you NEVER touch 😂❤ But I guess leaked info that ruins you is ok 👌 lmao
I think i can get behind your take of destinys hypocrisy. But man, if youve been paying attention to sneako for awhile, he comes off as the most phoney mfer and i can get how destiny can get frustrated with him
Even his clips where he has a horrible arguments- his whole comment section (literally) is “DESTINY ATE” or “DESTINY literally destroyed [person]!” It’s so bizarre
Destiny is simply very emotionally driven. Listening to him argue against trump supporters vs how he engaged with other liberals is a masterclass in psychological bias
I love when people accuse others of something they are clearly guilty of. It's almost like they believe that throwing it out first (without any added details) somehow provides them with the strength to not even approach the possibility of being guilty. Actually commit to doing some research on confirmation bias and motivated reasoning, then you will at least slightly understand just how incorrect your conclusion is.
@@jamk2668 lol. I guess you’re so smart you can’t explain how I’m wrong? Typical Destiny fan. Make vague accusations and hide behind smugness and condescension. What’s new?
All of these galaxy brains that have a name for themselves do that stuff. Go listen to Sam Harris on anything Trump and prepare for his mouth foaming TDS and to be very disappointed that this is what the world has on the top shelf of big brains.
Destiny is a legit sociopath, the man does not understand the concept of empathy (surprisingly this isn't uncommon among political talking head types like him)
I used to watch him way back when he played Starcraft 2. I recall him telling a story where his best friend confessed to being suicidal and Destiny's response was essentially to convince his best friend to kill himself.
This video's weird. You say it's not a defense of Sneako and more a critique of Destiny but you don't hold Sneako to the same level of scrutiny as Destiny. You say Destiny is a deadbeat father therefore he shouldn't be giving relationship advice and yet Sneako is rebranding himself as a follower of Islam and participating in the most haram acts possible. Just because Sneako predicted that people would call him out on his hypocrisy, doesn't mean they are wrong. It dosen't matter if the mistake happens in your public or private life because your religion is apart of you, public or private. Also, if Sneako had an actual rebuttal to the comic in question, he would've looked better. Instead, he brought someone's kid into it.
" You say it's not a defense of Sneako and more a critique of Destiny but you don't hold Sneako to the same level of scrutiny as Destiny. " Damn, it's like you answered your own problem. Exactly it's more of a critique of Destiny not Sneako. I'm not sure how you typed that out without being aware but damn kekw
@@Pegarexucorn I'm aware it's a critique of Destiny but are you aware that Sneako is heavily featured in this video? The Op even takes his side near the end with Sneako's prediction of how the leftists will react to his immoral behavior. My man letting him get away with the dumbest takes.
Realistically he might as well have just leaked whatever he was going to say about sneako,...but I guess he held back to have something to fall back on to not look like the bad guy....by saying hey I could leak bad things about sneakos life he already did...now its just up to the audience to assume how bad they were.
he is an spineless coward, so yeah, he should have something "shady" on mostly everyone he knows just to feel a grasp of power over them now that i realize...didnt he told lex friedman he is an spineless cowrd or something like that? if so, that proyection just proves my point
I think this guy had some good points but he clearly doesn't like him for some reason and calling him a dead beat dad kinda undermines his good points. I could see an argument that he's not a great father but he doesn't meet the traditional definition of dead beat dad. I think he has his son this week. He's paying for his and his mothers home and stops to see him when traveling. This is a fairly normal celebrity father son relationship as far as I've ever heard. I am fine with criticism toward destiny he does and says stuff that bothers me too I just think this guy sounds like he has it out for him with comments like that
@@justtatianaf1998 "fairly normally celebrity father son relationship" but how many celebrity children have some sort of issue or problem, I disagree with your statement because I believe that if you have children you should be in a stable relationship.
These are good points you should talk to him directly about it, he'll have you on his stream soon enough if you contact him, would probably be really good for your channel.
I think sneakos retort is much more notable than destiny’s response. “You seem uncritically to flip-flop on ideas” “So anyway, let’s talk about your son “ The gloves were off at that point, and I don’t really blame his response not being squeaky clean. This isn’t a call out, but would you consider going on his stream to discuss this? If you’ve been watching him recently, you definitely know people that disagree with him and get on all the time. Again, I’m not saying this antagonistically, might be an interesting discussion.
the gloves were off when destiny posted that meme, and sneako responded with the slightest of jabs. destiny can justify his behaviour all he wants with this moral, epistemic talk but at the end of the day its only his own values and no one else's, and destiny not expecting sneako to fight back is kind of absurd and self-centered. i think destiny realizes that he looks like the bad guy in the situation, since he didn't bother fighting back on twitter where he will look just ridiculous, and instead goes to complain on his stream where people will always agree with him.
@@mpsantti Sneako has been talking trash about his son before that. It's a just a cheap personal card he pulls any time he doesn't have a solid argument against Destiny. Its really childish
Destiny absolutely thinks he's more intelligent and correct than others at times. He once tried to argue against an attorney, who has over 20 years of experience, on the subject of legal affairs. He thought that his ability to skim-read through one or two scientific articles, made him more qualified and knowledgeable than the actual, real expert.
@@FentyCola559 nah i believe them, the internet makes people forget how important academic knowledge and experience are, but i wouldn’t really blame destiny for that, when most internet personalities actively shit on people who went to uni and studied something
@@FentyCola559 Further worsening it is the fact that Destiny constantly preaches about getting an education. Not just because it's the most surefire way to pull yourself out of poverty but because he believes there's value in the skillset that comes attached to your education. I watched the debate a while back so I don't have a link but he was effectively trying to discredit the attorney while unintentionally discrediting his own views on education in favour of his ego. His typical appeal to authority vanished in the face of someone who was educated in that field and disagreed with him.
My favorite thing about that clip and any other time he gets called a bad father is that he doesn't try to deny it, he just goes "you're attacking me personally!" I lol at that.
You misrepresent (or misunderstand) what Destiny is saying when he calls something a personal attack vs not. You assert that he conflates leaking personal information with personal attacks. He does not. He's saying two things, and YOU are the one conflating the two. 1) He's saying that attacking him for his son is a personal attack because it is not related to his positions on issues,, whereas his attack on Sneako was related to his tendency to adopt positions on issues, rather than his personal off-screen behavior. 2) He's also saying that it's easier to make personal attack regarding his off-screen behavior because information about that behavior is public, whereas for Sneako it's not. YOU are the conflating these two points, by suggesting that he's defining personal attack as public vs private info, and then using that misrepresentation to allege hypocrisy. I think Destiny says a lot of dumb things, but this isn't one of them. For example, Destiny is not actually correct about point #1. Both him and Sneako were making personal attacks. The difference is that his attack on Sneako's character was related to how he conducts himself on stream, and Sneako's attack on his character relates to his conduct off-stream. There is a distinction to be made, to be sure, but I don't think it's accurate to label that distinction as whether something is a "personal attack." That being said, this point is mostly semantic, and our evaluation should be on a the actual differences between those 2 attacks, and not on the public vs private bullshit that your video takes us down.
Not sure if it's about taking anyone's side. I'd be surprised if he did because Sneako was pretty stupid in this encounter too. However, that doesn't mean Destiny wasn't coping in his response. Solid video as per.
Damn, I like some of your vids but this one is weak. I really tried to understand your criticisms of him but they all seem like nothing-burgers or simply bad faith interpretations of what he was saying. Destiny makes fun of sneako for the dumb phrasing about the tik tok psy op. Then you play a clip from a different context where he acknowledges social media being a problem, then you act like this is some sort of hypocrisy? Same with that moralist bit… he was saying how nonsensical it is to refer to yourself as a moralist because basically everyone’s politics is based off of some kind of morality. Then you make the assumption that any relationship advice/opinions he gives = a moral judgement. Okay? I’m just not sure what ‘criticism’ I’m actually supposed to give af about?
Finally, I've always found him shady even when he had a few based moments. Like his spats with p e d 0 Vaush and Kennals or whatever the troony's name is.
Nah. Not really. This was a good video and criticism is good for everyone. Let's not conflate that with "downfall". Destiny, being a streamer, has LOADS of clips that would show his inconsistencies and hypocrisy over the years. He's had worse years than this year and still grows.
As a professed feminist, you'd think Destiny would subscribe to the notion that "the personal is political," since that's one of the major ideas that has guided American feminism. With that being said, I don't really get the impression that Destiny is a deadbeat dad. I mean the guy's a millionaire and I'm sure his kid is well taken care of. Although I guess Sneako's point isn't with reference to how good of a father he is today, but regarding his decision to leave Nebraska and go to Miami. But couldn't it be argued that that was the right thing to do since it paid off and his kid's life is going to be much better as a result of that decision than it would've been otherwise? I don't know, I think if I were to criticize Destiny about anything with reference to his role as a father, it would just be the way he tolerates his wife's behavior when she's actively humiliating him in public, because his son will most certainly be bullied or made fun of by other kids as a result of that stuff if it isn't already happening.
Wealth does not necessarily save a child from a mentally ill mother. Destiny is fairly I'll as well if we want to get into the semantics with his relationships and his approach to life.
imma be real, destiny is at that point in his career that the internet has lost all of its “OMG I CANT AAY THAT” factor to him, i don’t think he’s saying it in a way that he “could destroy sneako” he’s just saying in a way that yeah sneako shouldn’t be judging anyone. While i agree that he sounds like a sociopath most of the times i feel like its inevitable when you are on this field for so many years
Thank you for this. I've been watching Destiny for a bit now and I never liked that I couldn't find a sufficient complaint about him. Since mostly you'll hear it from extremist opponents and such.
Watching Destiny on the red pill shows is hard. He's just fumbling so much any time Fuentes is involved and it eats at his soul so he took it out on Sneako
Is Sneakoo married to a woman who he watches get smashed by others? I have only heard that he had a girlfriend a few years ago that he went to a swingers club with once. Isn't that the whole story?
The reason he leaks that stuff is because Sneako 1) lies about how his life works and what he does along with pushing his lifestyle onto other people and has a highly specific self-image, and 2) he gossips about other people's lives like a bitchy schoolgirl and won't hesitate (remember the Moist Critical incident?). You tried to come off as neutral and nuanced but from the comments and stuff like "It was funny when Sneako made fun of Destiny's fatherhood" it's pretty obvious you were biased from the start. And theres just bad faith stuff all over. You completely missed the point with him saying that Sneako's goals are for his career not for family. The whole point about Sneako is he toes the line between being a grifter and being so stupid he actually huffs his own product. The grift comes from the fact that he posts weak workout pics and videos in front of a view of a city from an expensive apartment and he points to this for "Look self improvement". No its not self improvement. He's a glorified instagram model.
Please make a video on how Destiny argues, he " sounds " smart but there's just something off about him when I hear him talk about stuff and I cant articulate it. it feels manipulative and gaslighty...😕
I'm a huge Destiny fan but your right you cant say you're going to be the bigger person because by saying that out loud you're not being the bigger person.
Massive cultural changes causes massive changes in psychological outcomes because it's something we're not adapted for could certainly be called a "psyop." People like to treat the present as normal and take it for granted thus why they avoid even descriptions of the past without implicitly slipping in prescriptions particular to the present regime ie all the of past being some sort or oppression to one group or the other
Because policy is gonna affect everyone so it should be very reasonable while personal moral about relationship is different! Yeah I guess you are not at his level intellectually I guess! Edit: Also you can say belief is personal then you will have to consider all beliefs not just religious ones and then you won’t have any debate by your logic because attacking beliefs = personal attacks GG
Gishgalloping, interrupting constantly, and throwing out flippant dismissals means Destiny is a BAD debater. Vaush copied his exact strategy, added slurs and constant swearing, and Vaush is even worse. BECAUSE of who he learned from, Destiny
He clarifies his issue is with the "push" for asymmetry, implying a lack of due process to see if this is what the other partner truly wants. There are also so many other bad faith things in this video but it's too much to respond to.
Has Xena posted more stuff about Sneakoo doing drugs than that one time he asked her for molly? I'm asking because Destiny claimed in the clip that she exposed that Sneako did "a bunch of drugs". Was he being disingenuous, or is my information not up to date on this?
I keep hearing destiny is a bad dad but cant find any vids or anything of anyone talking about it can you point me to any? I never see him with his kid lol
@@cynicalsandw_odon't know of any videos but I know a little of the background, basically Destiny ran off to be with his current wife Melina in Sweden leaving his kid behind with his Mom in Nebraska, from what a remember he basically talks to his kid like once a week on the phone and only visits him a few times a year and currently lives in Miami miles away from him.
You really took the most convoluted and self-important explanation for epistemics. 😂 Not what you said but the definition text you showed. It's also quite funny that Destiny pronounces it wrong. He has never heard it just only read about it in one of his philosophy for dummies books, and thought it sounded smart. True story.
I thought you made some fair criticisms but I didn’t agree with your characterization of Destiny’s point about Sneako self improvement for his career solely. I interpreted what Destiny said wasn’t saying it’s wrong improve oneself for their career but to improve themselves solely for their career and maybe I’m misunderstanding your point but it sounds like you were saying that self improvement for your career is the only way because otherwise there’s no gain which I completely disagree with you. You tried to point out his hypocrisy for what he said on Pearly Things but I don’t know..like you said Sneako lacked eloquence the way he said his girlfriend was psyoped by TikTok, how was she psyoped? Was it about beauty standards? If so then yes I would agree with you, but it’s not clear. I notice that on UA-cam we have these ridiculously unrealistic expectations of human beings to be perfect, to always be on point with their takes, to always be consistent. We’re all extremely flawed biochemical machines. We all sit in a high chair of judgment with standards that none of us live up to. Thanks for your content Glitch Poachers, I believe it comes from a genuine place and I enjoy it.
Destiny is far more honest and willing to admit when he doesn't know something than other "lefties"- he just needs to round that corner of the troon thang.
He does appear to be "the only good one" of the bunch, but the more I watch stuff he's in, the more it shows that he's just an internet pseudointellectual. He's just intellectually better than people who are absolutely braind**d such as vaush, hasan, or really any of the leftist politic bro streamers, and that's why he seems reasonable and consistent.
13:00 (Not that I think you will reply to these comments) But if I made the statement that any reply or criticism to my comment automatically proves me right, and someone were to respond to me and critique my points, am I right?
@@buddyfats4768 i assume it's personal, Steve usually doesn't let it get personal, but he had just brought Sneako back into his stream guys circle and thought they were good
You didn't do very well on this video, don't care for this one. You're just jelly of Destiny and that's your whole reason for this video. He's nor a deadbeat Dad
I love destiny most the time but his take here on how it wasn’t a personal attack is delusional lol. It was an insult about his character or lack of character to be more precise. I think sneako coming at his kid and that situation is terrible and I think it’s worse than what destiny posted, but still.
L video. I usually enjoy your videos but this feels like a forced way to side with Sneako, just to dunk on Destiny who is in general the voice of reason. You sided with a snake. Destiny brought up a fair criticism about Sneakos constantly changing ideology. Sneako took a shot at his son as a cheap personal attack. It's not even close to being the same and it makes Sneako look very childish
Destiny said morality is necessary for policy debates, I don’t see what him and sneakos beef has to do with policy. Destiny criticized how sneakos positions are easily swayed and all that is related to the content he makes. Sneako attacking destiny for his fatherhood is personal because it doesn’t have anything to do with his content. I like your videos but I think this one’s a miss.
Sneako has been pretty consistently degenerate and opportunistic. He's never been a conservative or right wing unless you consider advocating for third world degeneracy like Tate to be right wing
Some of destiny's content is him talking about relationships. Being a dead beat dad is related to relationships thus it has something to do with his content
@@topgeorge6908 Destiny also says that he is an exception (regarding his open relationship status) and does not expect people to model themselves after him. I don't think he has ever advocated for people to do what he's doing with his son's upbringing.
10:15 Sneako's idea of a woman being psyop'd by TikTok is being given feminist social values and over-hyping their SMV. Destiny's point about social media being harmful to women's mental health is not contradictory to his opinion that Sneako's TikTok opinion is a bog standard redpill talking point.
Re tweeting a meme about how sneako jumps from identity defining fad to identity defining fad. Isnt a personal attack. Its like if sneako put up a comic about destiny furiously writing a manifesto after having a big disagreement with somone, it would be factual and you could make it funny. Sneako has jumped from redpill to islam to thinking Jews run the planet. And cant defend any single one of them. He is morally weak and will pedal whatever gets him more controversially popular.
1:52 Yeah because if someone's beliefs, personality, and career show they are contradictory to one another that can be a valid criticism. Touting Islam as the one true way while engaging in behavior you would consider sinful would be hypocritical. Attacking the relationship someone has with their son when it has nothing to do with what their discussing is a weird personal attack. Unless Destiny was giving alot of parenting advice whilst also displaying a poor relationship with his son, this would be unwarranted.
9:10 At this point he is critiquing him (sneako) for only caring about self improvement for money. Like with Hasan in the past, if you only do what is in the service of you making more money, do you genuinely care about that thing. It is possible to care about something if also do it for money, but you have to demonstrate that by working with it without a financial interest. If a software engineer only studies technologies that allow him to increase his income, and has no curiosity of technology outside that desire, then does he really care about technology? How does Sneako self improve in a way that does also help his streaming career? And if there is nothing Sneako does that doesn't also improve his streaming career, is he really caring about self improvement or making more money?
I whole heartedly love this channel. Thank you. These people don’t exist. Life is short (obviosuly) but following influencers is living in a realm where you get to post ur shower thought because someone was dumb, and brave, enough to put themselves out there. Entertainment is one thing. Attachment sucks shit. Jesus Christ these guys are insufferable
10:51 what sneako said is actually kinda true birth control does indeed throw off a girl’s hormones and makes them go thru fits of depression and stuff and tiktok has made some women have a sense of entitlement. It’s funny destiny is supposed to be a feminist but doesn’t know the biggest gripe women have is how birth control fucks with their head. It’s one of those If you know or been in a relationship, then you know destiny has no idea what he’s talking about 😂 he’s just sperging cause the kid comment got him.
Destiny is excellent at debate but he isn't without chinks in his armor. The three major issues I have seen in his debate style are: prone to hypocritical positions when emotionally charged, gish-galloping (he's greatly reduced his frequency of this but it's still there), speaking in specifics until the specifics do not support his view in which case he falls back on generalities heavily. He likes to say that he's fair to the other side but he cannot go long periods of time without generalizing his opposition. In his most recent appearance on Tim Pool's show, Destiny made generalizations about conservatives on a few occasions and the first that comes to mind was his reference to Mulan and how that movie would not be accepted by conservatives today despite its positive reception in the 90s. He made the mistake of believing that conservatives just dislike strong female characters which is definitely not true. Mulan was accepted because it embraced the biological realities of men and women, while Mulan used her wits to overcome the obstacles she could not overcome with a man's strength. Mulan was a determined female character that had weaknesses and wasn't made to spit in the face of the average person for the sake of a political agenda.
@googley98 The traditions of roughly 400-500 AD in China (the time the poem was originally based). Some parts of the world still hold similar values to those times but not the western world. Women were already contributing to society long before Disney's Mulan had come out. Her being a female protagonist doesn't spit in the face of tradition because there have been women who have accomplished plenty throughout history and are considered strong women by people on both the left and right. The movie did not go out of its way to shit on men in favour of propping up girl power. If she was a Mary Sue who was more skilled than her male counterparts in every way with no perceivable character flaws, then I'd say an agenda is being pushed; especially if the movie were taking constant, unnecessary jabs at men for being evil or "toxic".
@@defiantlydefiant Are you being intentionally obtuse? It's a story about a girl stealing her father's armour to become a soldier in his place instead of a bride - it's anti-traditionalist at its core, even today. Historically admired women by traditionalists are almost always just propped up by other men. As for the whole crapping on men to prop up women, if that just means a women looks powerful in media when a man looks weak, to me this is nonsense. It's literally Anita Sarkeesian's argument that women being kidnapped in media is shitting on women in reverse. As for Mary Sue's, what does the concept of a badly written character without flaws have to do with women inherently? Why not just call it bad writing? There are male 'Mary Sue's' all over the place and some of them are loved, it's just a weird double standard to me.
@googley98 Clearly, you're making an assumption that people who are right of center on the political spectrum place tradition above all else to the point that they cannot accept anything that breaks the bounds of those traditions. You're free to correct me on my own assumption; I'm simply basing it on your responses. Conservatives as a whole are not hellbent on denying anything outside of the realm of tradition. There are some but they do not speak for the majority, especially not in the western world. If that were the case, then women would still have extremely limited roles in society today. Countless conservatives are fine with progress in various areas at a controlled pace with some hard lines drawn in other areas. Not all conservatives are looking to drive women back into the home to be stay at home moms. What is important to conservatives about the man/woman dichomety is that we acknowledge the differences the sexes possess, which is something that Mulan explored fairly well without backhanding its male viewers and highlighting that women can be strong in their own way too. There's an explicit difference between showing a woman being competent amongst men and repeatedly reinforcing the bad qualities of men while only highlighting the good qualities of women like we see with increasing frequency in the media today. I brought up Mary Sue characters because some modern movies are looking to push the agenda that men are toxic and women are all beautiful, wonderful and without flaws. They are often pretty on the nose with the addition of Mary Sue characters as their leads to mantle their poltiical opinipns. Gary Stu characters also exist but a lot of people have issues relating to uncompelling characters like that as well. And with the current progressive bent pushing back against anything that's too masculine, Gary Stus are less likely to be found in modern media anyway; with the exception of pre-existing, long-running characters.
The more i watch your channel the more i see the people i like to watch in shades of color I don’t like or wasn’t aware of. First moist, asmon, and now destiny. And it’s like i watched these people because i felt like their views weren’t tainted. But, now I don’t trust youtubers like this anymore.
They’re people like everyone else. Flawed. It’s okay to be skeptical of everyone but don’t let it completely discount them or otherwise you’re going to just eventually be disappointed with everyone and completely black pilled.
@@ZaZaZoo22 i like your explanation. so youre saying you can separate someones poor choices from who they are as people? bcuz i definitely dont want to just feel like everyone who i thought was on the same page as me was really just is a completely different person. maybe its like, you should view people in there mistakes as just mistakes, and there one off moment doesn't have to be a reflection of their entire knowledge
i think is okay for destiny to do this , i mean hes a content creator which feeds from attention , and thats nothing bad at all. sneako is in his rigth to talk about anything he wants , but he has to keep the distance if he doesnt want to be a target of this kind of behavior. i mean i dont support any type of argument between people lifes as long as they own dont harm anyone but themselfs , which here seems to be the case , so im all about this type of shit talk if you gonna be talking about something such important for an adult like its parenting , which i doubt sneako knows truly how destiny is doing in this regard.
So beliefs and family are on the same level of personal. I think we all know what destiny means when he says personal. He’s talking about family. And shit doesn’t need to be private to be personal. Sneako brought in family first by judging his family but u when u do the same shit for sneako. That would ruin his career as u said. And destiny made it clear he burns bridges when u talk shit about his family. Also he judges prescriptions. When myron on fresh n fit says one sided open relationship is the way to go for most men then ofc destiny is gonna judge that. He isn’t judging anyone specifically. He’s judging the prescriptions. Why are these things so hard to understand
10:45 - it’s always so irritating when Destiny pretends he’s not as chronically online as his opponents when he brings up “people in the real world.” This man hasn’t had a proper job in over a decade, and is streaming debate and commentary content 24/7. He’s the last person to lecture anyone on what life in the “real world” is like.
Destiny seems to do this a lot. When someone comes at him and he doesn't like it he starts making it about the form of the attack or the specific subject of it that he doesn't like. For some reason he seems to think criticism of him has to be in his preferred method and arena. HE'S free at any time to decide what he attacks YOU on and you're expected to stay within those boundaries or not escalate the situation he starts. He did this with leafy recently as well. Honestly I think this comes from never having to really defend himself from a position of weakness. He doesn't really start shit with people that have solid arguments or positions. It's always low hanging fruit, very flawed people or those who aren't equipped to properly retaliate.
3:42 Yeah he generally doesn't judge, but will say on a podcast what Andrew Tate must be miserable and sad for having such materialistic lifestyle (not like i disagree, it's just people who claim to be non-judgemental are usually the ones who are). Also comment about one-sided open relationships are cringe, bro he is in one. Check Dr. K podcast with malena, she said what steven doesn't like when shes dating other people, so she doesn't do it. Things might have changed, but even then its pretty hypocritical to call it cringe where you were in that type of relationships in the past.
to put the left in the same bag as the christian far right is a very elegant dunk....and so true! :) EDIT: wow, that last clip, and the one where he talks about destroying/convincing people - thats a very good leftist self-report! amazing you found this! THANKS!
Are you being ironic? Because being far left is correlated with high psychopathology, criminality, being high in only the individualizing moral foundations, etc, while being religious and identifying as further right on a spectrum is correlated with the opposite. There are "sjws" of the right who are narcissistic and thus high in psychopathology yet high in purity or some other trait that makes them identify with the right more broadly, though usually something like fascism/third position, but they are quite rare always online types found in niche communities
Also, the internet is the only place where a 34 y/o can throw moral judgement onto a 24 y/o and it seem normal. This would be a weird conversation to observe irl
I remember watching a podcast with destiny where he said if it wasn't for his partner he would've aborted his son, and he doesn't care if he hears that. After that I lost what little respect I had for that blue haired gimp
Although u made some points, this video leaves out a lot of context If anything Destiny is the most good faith and most real friend Sneako has in the space. It's not when Sneako crosses the line and not only calls Destiny a dead beat dad, and lies about having a relationship with Melina, that Destiny has to cut him off. They've had civil debates, but their situation has become someting more personal than something that is epistemic or politcal.
Im a fan of destiny, but that whole response was such a cope, although i do understand that destiny's tweet was nowhere near as bad as sneako's, destiny leaking private shit and then moral standing is sad
After Destiny got dog walked by Nick Fuentes after their recent debate on F&F, he’s just been sperging out on everyone who’s laughing at him, he’s REALLY showing how sad he is lol
@@spudlypotato9059He had his ass handed to him by Nakedape, Mr Metokur and Alt Hype before. He's a good talker but when people find chinks, it falls apart.
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Isnt the whole critique that sneako is running around cosplaying as a devout muslim and calling other people haram, while he himself is living this haram life.
Destiny critiqued sneak for it and then directly went to the parenting stuff. But Destiny never said he is the father of the year or was grandstanding that people eho are bad parents are bad people.
Totally fair to call out sneakos hypocrisy here.
Yea but this videos not about tht. He says it in the beginning of the video he's not supporting sneako. Sneako grandstanding about his life is a different issue. Noone said destiny is grandstanding about being a perfect dad, but he is grandstanding about his personal attacks. and in this case what destiny was bringing up/threatening was extremely harmful, and importantly was not public info. Like what sneako attacked
The difference is sneako's response was already public knowledge. They both brought up personal stuff but the things he brought up about sneako were private and alleged.
Is it ok to use “leaked info” about your life? Because destiny clearly thinks leaked nudes are something you NEVER touch 😂❤
But I guess leaked info that ruins you is ok 👌 lmao
I think i can get behind your take of destinys hypocrisy. But man, if youve been paying attention to sneako for awhile, he comes off as the most phoney mfer and i can get how destiny can get frustrated with him
true but anyone and everyone can see that cpt obvious
Yeah sure, he's not saying sneak0 isn't an idiot, just that destiny is bad faith.
Glitch Poachers definitely the type of chad to use a Strength build.
Please cover more of destiny, he has so much hypocrisy that goes completely unaddressed and unchallenged.
Not really
like what?
Even his clips where he has a horrible arguments- his whole comment section (literally) is “DESTINY ATE” or “DESTINY literally destroyed [person]!” It’s so bizarre
Agree
@@griffynmargetts723 Destiny ATE!!!!!!
Destiny is simply very emotionally driven. Listening to him argue against trump supporters vs how he engaged with other liberals is a masterclass in psychological bias
I love when people accuse others of something they are clearly guilty of. It's almost like they believe that throwing it out first (without any added details) somehow provides them with the strength to not even approach the possibility of being guilty. Actually commit to doing some research on confirmation bias and motivated reasoning, then you will at least slightly understand just how incorrect your conclusion is.
@@jamk2668 t. destiny
@@jamk2668i really like this comment. hell yeah
@@jamk2668 lol. I guess you’re so smart you can’t explain how I’m wrong? Typical Destiny fan. Make vague accusations and hide behind smugness and condescension. What’s new?
All of these galaxy brains that have a name for themselves do that stuff. Go listen to Sam Harris on anything Trump and prepare for his mouth foaming TDS and to be very disappointed that this is what the world has on the top shelf of big brains.
Destiny is a legit sociopath, the man does not understand the concept of empathy (surprisingly this isn't uncommon among political talking head types like him)
Destiny is a neo-Vaush
Destiny definitely seems emotionally stunted
I used to watch him way back when he played Starcraft 2. I recall him telling a story where his best friend confessed to being suicidal and Destiny's response was essentially to convince his best friend to kill himself.
@@wolverine005I need a link, there’s no way.
so you dont watch him gotcha
Sneako said “psyop”, that’s not what destiny said in the pearl clip
Destiny literally has blue hair.
The Blue hair was a donation goal hit by his community for a charity run he did.
dude
@@AuditorLeifcool excuse. “It's dir charity”
Just donate some money and shave your head. Jesus, it’s ridiculous.
You literally have a blue star of remphan as your pfp
@@crmac135call out da opps
This video's weird. You say it's not a defense of Sneako and more a critique of Destiny but you don't hold Sneako to the same level of scrutiny as Destiny. You say Destiny is a deadbeat father therefore he shouldn't be giving relationship advice and yet Sneako is rebranding himself as a follower of Islam and participating in the most haram acts possible. Just because Sneako predicted that people would call him out on his hypocrisy, doesn't mean they are wrong. It dosen't matter if the mistake happens in your public or private life because your religion is apart of you, public or private.
Also, if Sneako had an actual rebuttal to the comic in question, he would've looked better. Instead, he brought someone's kid into it.
I mean, in the begening of the video he said that he would be talking about sneako.
The video isn't about sneako though.
@@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089Glitch prob would make a vid on Sneako eventually. He's getting more unhinged.
" You say it's not a defense of Sneako and more a critique of Destiny but you don't hold Sneako to the same level of scrutiny as Destiny. " Damn, it's like you answered your own problem. Exactly it's more of a critique of Destiny not Sneako. I'm not sure how you typed that out without being aware but damn kekw
@@Pegarexucorn I'm aware it's a critique of Destiny but are you aware that Sneako is heavily featured in this video? The Op even takes his side near the end with Sneako's prediction of how the leftists will react to his immoral behavior.
My man letting him get away with the dumbest takes.
Realistically he might as well have just leaked whatever he was going to say about sneako,...but I guess he held back to have something to fall back on to not look like the bad guy....by saying hey I could leak bad things about sneakos life he already did...now its just up to the audience to assume how bad they were.
didnt his girlfriend or whatever already leak it?
It’s practically a threat, let’s be real
he is an spineless coward, so yeah, he should have something "shady" on mostly everyone he knows just to feel a grasp of power over them
now that i realize...didnt he told lex friedman he is an spineless cowrd or something like that? if so, that proyection just proves my point
@@beefslap2217yes she did
@@TheNo15 yeah it was just corny, it’s like I’m gonna expose without technically exposing… it’s out there you said enough
It's always a good day when glitch poachers uploads 🙏
Him and 2lazy2try need to collab
I am by no means a DGG'er but comparatively- I dont know any streamere who allow as many critics on to challenge them as Destiny does.
Destiny starts loosing an argument*
Destiny's mouth: Gotta go fast
Gotta Blast!
@@Kat_MacGrath I haven't really seen it from sneako
I think this guy had some good points but he clearly doesn't like him for some reason and calling him a dead beat dad kinda undermines his good points. I could see an argument that he's not a great father but he doesn't meet the traditional definition of dead beat dad. I think he has his son this week. He's paying for his and his mothers home and stops to see him when traveling. This is a fairly normal celebrity father son relationship as far as I've ever heard. I am fine with criticism toward destiny he does and says stuff that bothers me too I just think this guy sounds like he has it out for him with comments like that
@@justtatianaf1998 "fairly normally celebrity father son relationship" but how many celebrity children have some sort of issue or problem, I disagree with your statement because I believe that if you have children you should be in a stable relationship.
@@chadmrrsn I'm not saying it is ideal I just dont think it is what ppl mean when they say dead beat
I'm quite impressed by you remembering that Destiny had said something at Pearlythings that was the opposite of what he claims now.
That wasn't anywhere near the same point tho
@@DSPHistoricalSocietycare to explain?
@@aelvegard nope.
@@DSPHistoricalSocietyLol, good job
@@DSPHistoricalSocietygottem
These are good points you should talk to him directly about it, he'll have you on his stream soon enough if you contact him, would probably be really good for your channel.
I think sneakos retort is much more notable than destiny’s response.
“You seem uncritically to flip-flop on ideas”
“So anyway, let’s talk about your son “
The gloves were off at that point, and I don’t really blame his response not being squeaky clean.
This isn’t a call out, but would you consider going on his stream to discuss this? If you’ve been watching him recently, you definitely know people that disagree with him and get on all the time. Again, I’m not saying this antagonistically, might be an interesting discussion.
the gloves were off when destiny posted that meme, and sneako responded with the slightest of jabs.
destiny can justify his behaviour all he wants with this moral, epistemic talk but at the end of the day its only his own values and no one else's, and destiny not expecting sneako to fight back is kind of absurd and self-centered.
i think destiny realizes that he looks like the bad guy in the situation, since he didn't bother fighting back on twitter where he will look just ridiculous, and instead goes to complain on his stream where people will always agree with him.
@@mpsanttithe meme is accurate though no?
accurate in the same sense as "destiny abandoned his son to play starcraft in miami", is accurate, sure.
@@mpsantti Sneako has been talking trash about his son before that. It's a just a cheap personal card he pulls any time he doesn't have a solid argument against Destiny. Its really childish
Reaching out via email, we'll see what happens 🙏🙏
Destiny absolutely thinks he's more intelligent and correct than others at times. He once tried to argue against an attorney, who has over 20 years of experience, on the subject of legal affairs. He thought that his ability to skim-read through one or two scientific articles, made him more qualified and knowledgeable than the actual, real expert.
Source?
@@FentyCola559 nah i believe them, the internet makes people forget how important academic knowledge and experience are, but i wouldn’t really blame destiny for that, when most internet personalities actively shit on people who went to uni and studied something
@@muro158 I have to see it to believe it but i agree a lot of people do that lol
@@FentyCola559 Further worsening it is the fact that Destiny constantly preaches about getting an education. Not just because it's the most surefire way to pull yourself out of poverty but because he believes there's value in the skillset that comes attached to your education. I watched the debate a while back so I don't have a link but he was effectively trying to discredit the attorney while unintentionally discrediting his own views on education in favour of his ego. His typical appeal to authority vanished in the face of someone who was educated in that field and disagreed with him.
@@defiantlydefiant destiny is right to an extent tbh I haven’t seen the stream which is why I want to see some proof of where he said this
My favorite thing about that clip and any other time he gets called a bad father is that he doesn't try to deny it, he just goes "you're attacking me personally!" I lol at that.
honestly curious if you'd be willing to have a conversation with destiny about it he'd probably be open to it
That'd be an interesting convo
You misrepresent (or misunderstand) what Destiny is saying when he calls something a personal attack vs not. You assert that he conflates leaking personal information with personal attacks. He does not. He's saying two things, and YOU are the one conflating the two. 1) He's saying that attacking him for his son is a personal attack because it is not related to his positions on issues,, whereas his attack on Sneako was related to his tendency to adopt positions on issues, rather than his personal off-screen behavior. 2) He's also saying that it's easier to make personal attack regarding his off-screen behavior because information about that behavior is public, whereas for Sneako it's not. YOU are the conflating these two points, by suggesting that he's defining personal attack as public vs private info, and then using that misrepresentation to allege hypocrisy.
I think Destiny says a lot of dumb things, but this isn't one of them. For example, Destiny is not actually correct about point #1. Both him and Sneako were making personal attacks. The difference is that his attack on Sneako's character was related to how he conducts himself on stream, and Sneako's attack on his character relates to his conduct off-stream. There is a distinction to be made, to be sure, but I don't think it's accurate to label that distinction as whether something is a "personal attack." That being said, this point is mostly semantic, and our evaluation should be on a the actual differences between those 2 attacks, and not on the public vs private bullshit that your video takes us down.
Never thought I would take sneako's side in anything but here we are.
Not sure if it's about taking anyone's side. I'd be surprised if he did because Sneako was pretty stupid in this encounter too. However, that doesn't mean Destiny wasn't coping in his response. Solid video as per.
you're a muslim now
Damn, I like some of your vids but this one is weak. I really tried to understand your criticisms of him but they all seem like nothing-burgers or simply bad faith interpretations of what he was saying. Destiny makes fun of sneako for the dumb phrasing about the tik tok psy op. Then you play a clip from a different context where he acknowledges social media being a problem, then you act like this is some sort of hypocrisy?
Same with that moralist bit… he was saying how nonsensical it is to refer to yourself as a moralist because basically everyone’s politics is based off of some kind of morality. Then you make the assumption that any relationship advice/opinions he gives = a moral judgement. Okay? I’m just not sure what ‘criticism’ I’m actually supposed to give af about?
2023 is the downward spiral for Destiny.
Finally, I've always found him shady even when he had a few based moments. Like his spats with p e d 0 Vaush and Kennals or whatever the troony's name is.
Ah yes. Surely he'll fall this year.
Nah. Not really. This was a good video and criticism is good for everyone. Let's not conflate that with "downfall". Destiny, being a streamer, has LOADS of clips that would show his inconsistencies and hypocrisy over the years. He's had worse years than this year and still grows.
cope
People have been saying that for over a decade bro
As a professed feminist, you'd think Destiny would subscribe to the notion that "the personal is political," since that's one of the major ideas that has guided American feminism. With that being said, I don't really get the impression that Destiny is a deadbeat dad. I mean the guy's a millionaire and I'm sure his kid is well taken care of. Although I guess Sneako's point isn't with reference to how good of a father he is today, but regarding his decision to leave Nebraska and go to Miami. But couldn't it be argued that that was the right thing to do since it paid off and his kid's life is going to be much better as a result of that decision than it would've been otherwise?
I don't know, I think if I were to criticize Destiny about anything with reference to his role as a father, it would just be the way he tolerates his wife's behavior when she's actively humiliating him in public, because his son will most certainly be bullied or made fun of by other kids as a result of that stuff if it isn't already happening.
Wealth does not necessarily save a child from a mentally ill mother. Destiny is fairly I'll as well if we want to get into the semantics with his relationships and his approach to life.
You are probably correct. But he could have sat behind his computer in nebraska
@@ThatGuy-ky2yfgood job armchair therapist 👍🏻
imma be real, destiny is at that point in his career that the internet has lost all of its “OMG I CANT AAY THAT” factor to him, i don’t think he’s saying it in a way that he “could destroy sneako” he’s just saying in a way that yeah sneako shouldn’t be judging anyone. While i agree that he sounds like a sociopath most of the times i feel like its inevitable when you are on this field for so many years
Thank you for this. I've been watching Destiny for a bit now and I never liked that I couldn't find a sufficient complaint about him. Since mostly you'll hear it from extremist opponents and such.
Watching Destiny on the red pill shows is hard. He's just fumbling so much any time Fuentes is involved and it eats at his soul so he took it out on Sneako
You siding with a racist Nazi? Wtf is wrong with some of you?
Fuentez is irrelevant. Wignat detected
Crazy all the overlap all these streamers have, gets even weirder the longer back you go (2014-), thanks for the video king!
Sneako is more zesty than Destiny and Destiny’s a girls name
imagine watching destiny 💀
Ok I imagined it.
It was quite enjoyable thanks 🙏 😊
It's the battle of the cucks! BTW love the channel its the sole commentary I follow brah
Is Sneakoo married to a woman who he watches get smashed by others? I have only heard that he had a girlfriend a few years ago that he went to a swingers club with once. Isn't that the whole story?
@@Ewil.Bluetooth Watching your chick get smashed once is bad enough ddude
"I'm not ok with that" because "boundaries." Destiny and Idubbz are like case studies for emasculation.
Oooh oooh oooh kill em glitch poachers
Now make a video about Sneako’s influencer grift
The reason he leaks that stuff is because Sneako 1) lies about how his life works and what he does along with pushing his lifestyle onto other people and has a highly specific self-image, and 2) he gossips about other people's lives like a bitchy schoolgirl and won't hesitate (remember the Moist Critical incident?).
You tried to come off as neutral and nuanced but from the comments and stuff like "It was funny when Sneako made fun of Destiny's fatherhood" it's pretty obvious you were biased from the start.
And theres just bad faith stuff all over. You completely missed the point with him saying that Sneako's goals are for his career not for family. The whole point about Sneako is he toes the line between being a grifter and being so stupid he actually huffs his own product. The grift comes from the fact that he posts weak workout pics and videos in front of a view of a city from an expensive apartment and he points to this for "Look self improvement". No its not self improvement. He's a glorified instagram model.
Please make a video on how Destiny argues, he " sounds " smart but there's just something off about him when I hear him talk about stuff and I cant articulate it.
it feels manipulative and gaslighty...😕
I'm a huge Destiny fan but your right you cant say you're going to be the bigger person because by saying that out loud you're not being the bigger person.
why are you a destiny fan?
@@devontheundivided9815 entertaining
Massive cultural changes causes massive changes in psychological outcomes because it's something we're not adapted for could certainly be called a "psyop." People like to treat the present as normal and take it for granted thus why they avoid even descriptions of the past without implicitly slipping in prescriptions particular to the present regime ie all the of past being some sort or oppression to one group or the other
Because policy is gonna affect everyone so it should be very reasonable while personal moral about relationship is different! Yeah I guess you are not at his level intellectually I guess!
Edit: Also you can say belief is personal then you will have to consider all beliefs not just religious ones and then you won’t have any debate by your logic because attacking beliefs = personal attacks GG
Destiny got popular because he was genuinely good at debate. He let that get to his ego and become hella arrogant.
Gishgalloping, interrupting constantly, and throwing out flippant dismissals means Destiny is a BAD debater. Vaush copied his exact strategy, added slurs and constant swearing, and Vaush is even worse. BECAUSE of who he learned from, Destiny
He clarifies his issue is with the "push" for asymmetry, implying a lack of due process to see if this is what the other partner truly wants. There are also so many other bad faith things in this video but it's too much to respond to.
Has Xena posted more stuff about Sneakoo doing drugs than that one time he asked her for molly? I'm asking because Destiny claimed in the clip that she exposed that Sneako did "a bunch of drugs".
Was he being disingenuous, or is my information not up to date on this?
oh my god! he did drugs! Oh noooooooo! wHAT A BAd person@!!!!
@@Pegarexucorn No one makes that argument. Get some sleep.
You completely not only misrepresented Destiny in this video but you seem to completely misunderstand what he’s saying. L takes throughout.
Lol why even play the last clip, it defeats your whole video with his self awareness
Just because Hasan is aware he's a hypocrite doesn't make him any less of a hypocrite.
“I murder and rape babies, but at least I’m honest about it so that makes me morally upright” - you, unironically
At least sneako isnt a waste of space dead beat father
Not yet 😂
I keep hearing destiny is a bad dad but cant find any vids or anything of anyone talking about it can you point me to any? I never see him with his kid lol
@@cynicalsandw_odon't know of any videos but I know a little of the background, basically Destiny ran off to be with his current wife Melina in Sweden leaving his kid behind with his Mom in Nebraska, from what a remember he basically talks to his kid like once a week on the phone and only visits him a few times a year and currently lives in Miami miles away from him.
Naw, just a waste of space fake Muslim.
You really took the most convoluted and self-important explanation for epistemics. 😂
Not what you said but the definition text you showed.
It's also quite funny that Destiny pronounces it wrong. He has never heard it just only read about it in one of his philosophy for dummies books, and thought it sounded smart. True story.
It's ridiculous considering he doesn't even know the meaning of moralist just to preach it after googling the meaning and deny it in another video.
Worcestershire!
I thought you made some fair criticisms but I didn’t agree with your characterization of Destiny’s point about Sneako self improvement for his career solely. I interpreted what Destiny said wasn’t saying it’s wrong improve oneself for their career but to improve themselves solely for their career and maybe I’m misunderstanding your point but it sounds like you were saying that self improvement for your career is the only way because otherwise there’s no gain which I completely disagree with you. You tried to point out his hypocrisy for what he said on Pearly Things but I don’t know..like you said Sneako lacked eloquence the way he said his girlfriend was psyoped by TikTok, how was she psyoped? Was it about beauty standards? If so then yes I would agree with you, but it’s not clear. I notice that on UA-cam we have these ridiculously unrealistic expectations of human beings to be perfect, to always be on point with their takes, to always be consistent. We’re all extremely flawed biochemical machines. We all sit in a high chair of judgment with standards that none of us live up to. Thanks for your content Glitch Poachers, I believe it comes from a genuine place and I enjoy it.
he talks that fast so people will be too exhausted listening to him to even reply
The far right and far left are definitely worth giving up your free will to fight for…..
"its basically his job" -reminds me of the boondocks episode where the talking heads monetize a tragedy. wanna say it was a reverand and ann coulter
Destiny is far more honest and willing to admit when he doesn't know something than other "lefties"- he just needs to round that corner of the troon thang.
No he does not my guy is an arm chair intellectual
He does appear to be "the only good one" of the bunch, but the more I watch stuff he's in, the more it shows that he's just an internet pseudointellectual. He's just intellectually better than people who are absolutely braind**d such as vaush, hasan, or really any of the leftist politic bro streamers, and that's why he seems reasonable and consistent.
hes a passive aggressive diva
@@cameron765 that's not an argument
@@coldfire2753 ok what's your point
13:00 (Not that I think you will reply to these comments) But if I made the statement that any reply or criticism to my comment automatically proves me right, and someone were to respond to me and critique my points, am I right?
Disagree- Destiny's being a parent isn't what he streams about, while Sneako's opinions are 100% what he streams about
Destiny frequently talks about the relationships and drama of other people there is nothing wrong with people criticizing him for the same thing
@@buddyfats4768 i assume it's personal, Steve usually doesn't let it get personal, but he had just brought Sneako back into his stream guys circle and thought they were good
The video games are just something to look at while Destiny spouts his opinions for hours on end. He's not a game streamer.
@@ragnnohab who said he was?
Destiny literally has a show about giving relationships advice
destiny : sneako strike back
LOL at that reduction edit!
You didn't do very well on this video, don't care for this one. You're just jelly of Destiny and that's your whole reason for this video. He's nor a deadbeat Dad
"You're just jelly of Destiny" what a fantastic and totally not copium fueled argument
I love destiny most the time but his take here on how it wasn’t a personal attack is delusional lol. It was an insult about his character or lack of character to be more precise. I think sneako coming at his kid and that situation is terrible and I think it’s worse than what destiny posted, but still.
Is moral grandstanding just when you insult someone or am I missing something?
in a specific way sure
L video. I usually enjoy your videos but this feels like a forced way to side with Sneako, just to dunk on Destiny who is in general the voice of reason. You sided with a snake.
Destiny brought up a fair criticism about Sneakos constantly changing ideology. Sneako took a shot at his son as a cheap personal attack. It's not even close to being the same and it makes Sneako look very childish
Destiny said morality is necessary for policy debates, I don’t see what him and sneakos beef has to do with policy. Destiny criticized how sneakos positions are easily swayed and all that is related to the content he makes. Sneako attacking destiny for his fatherhood is personal because it doesn’t have anything to do with his content. I like your videos but I think this one’s a miss.
Sneako has been pretty consistently degenerate and opportunistic. He's never been a conservative or right wing unless you consider advocating for third world degeneracy like Tate to be right wing
Some of destiny's content is him talking about relationships. Being a dead beat dad is related to relationships thus it has something to do with his content
@@topgeorge6908 Destiny also says that he is an exception (regarding his open relationship status) and does not expect people to model themselves after him.
I don't think he has ever advocated for people to do what he's doing with his son's upbringing.
Well said. This video felt very biased and one sided
@@coldfire2753 one sided yeah no shit, it's about destiny like the title would indicate
10:15 Sneako's idea of a woman being psyop'd by TikTok is being given feminist social values and over-hyping their SMV. Destiny's point about social media being harmful to women's mental health is not contradictory to his opinion that Sneako's TikTok opinion is a bog standard redpill talking point.
Re tweeting a meme about how sneako jumps from identity defining fad to identity defining fad. Isnt a personal attack. Its like if sneako put up a comic about destiny furiously writing a manifesto after having a big disagreement with somone, it would be factual and you could make it funny. Sneako has jumped from redpill to islam to thinking Jews run the planet. And cant defend any single one of them. He is morally weak and will pedal whatever gets him more controversially popular.
1:52 Yeah because if someone's beliefs, personality, and career show they are contradictory to one another that can be a valid criticism. Touting Islam as the one true way while engaging in behavior you would consider sinful would be hypocritical. Attacking the relationship someone has with their son when it has nothing to do with what their discussing is a weird personal attack. Unless Destiny was giving alot of parenting advice whilst also displaying a poor relationship with his son, this would be unwarranted.
Let’s hope destiny ceases to exist as the lilysingh debate bros
Good call.
Say what you will, but that is a funny response.
Is it really that hard to see how shitty of a father destiny is? Anyone who has kids understands this perfectly. It really is that simple.
I disagree, the moment you bring someone’s Son into the an argument all decorum is off the table.
Policy and moral judgement armt the same thing
9:10 At this point he is critiquing him (sneako) for only caring about self improvement for money. Like with Hasan in the past, if you only do what is in the service of you making more money, do you genuinely care about that thing. It is possible to care about something if also do it for money, but you have to demonstrate that by working with it without a financial interest. If a software engineer only studies technologies that allow him to increase his income, and has no curiosity of technology outside that desire, then does he really care about technology? How does Sneako self improve in a way that does also help his streaming career? And if there is nothing Sneako does that doesn't also improve his streaming career, is he really caring about self improvement or making more money?
Destiny has a kid? Ohhhh shiiiii
Yes, he's quite famous for saying he isn't sure he could tell his daughter incest is wrong.
@@ragnnohab I am only aware of Destiny having a son, not a daughter.
This behavior is called chameleon
What's the purpose of being in an open relationship? That just sounds like a pretentious way of saying "we're roommates who bang from time to time"
I whole heartedly love this channel. Thank you.
These people don’t exist. Life is short (obviosuly) but following influencers is living in a realm where you get to post ur shower thought because someone was dumb, and brave, enough to put themselves out there.
Entertainment is one thing. Attachment sucks shit.
Jesus Christ these guys are insufferable
10:51 what sneako said is actually kinda true birth control does indeed throw off a girl’s hormones and makes them go thru fits of depression and stuff and tiktok has made some women have a sense of entitlement. It’s funny destiny is supposed to be a feminist but doesn’t know the biggest gripe women have is how birth control fucks with their head. It’s one of those If you know or been in a relationship, then you know destiny has no idea what he’s talking about 😂 he’s just sperging cause the kid comment got him.
Destiny is excellent at debate but he isn't without chinks in his armor. The three major issues I have seen in his debate style are: prone to hypocritical positions when emotionally charged, gish-galloping (he's greatly reduced his frequency of this but it's still there), speaking in specifics until the specifics do not support his view in which case he falls back on generalities heavily. He likes to say that he's fair to the other side but he cannot go long periods of time without generalizing his opposition.
In his most recent appearance on Tim Pool's show, Destiny made generalizations about conservatives on a few occasions and the first that comes to mind was his reference to Mulan and how that movie would not be accepted by conservatives today despite its positive reception in the 90s. He made the mistake of believing that conservatives just dislike strong female characters which is definitely not true. Mulan was accepted because it embraced the biological realities of men and women, while Mulan used her wits to overcome the obstacles she could not overcome with a man's strength. Mulan was a determined female character that had weaknesses and wasn't made to spit in the face of the average person for the sake of a political agenda.
Mulan literally spits in the face of tradition. The modern anti sgw stance in media is pretty cringe.
@googley98 The traditions of roughly 400-500 AD in China (the time the poem was originally based). Some parts of the world still hold similar values to those times but not the western world. Women were already contributing to society long before Disney's Mulan had come out.
Her being a female protagonist doesn't spit in the face of tradition because there have been women who have accomplished plenty throughout history and are considered strong women by people on both the left and right. The movie did not go out of its way to shit on men in favour of propping up girl power. If she was a Mary Sue who was more skilled than her male counterparts in every way with no perceivable character flaws, then I'd say an agenda is being pushed; especially if the movie were taking constant, unnecessary jabs at men for being evil or "toxic".
@@defiantlydefiant
Are you being intentionally obtuse?
It's a story about a girl stealing her father's armour to become a soldier in his place instead of a bride - it's anti-traditionalist at its core, even today. Historically admired women by traditionalists are almost always just propped up by other men.
As for the whole crapping on men to prop up women, if that just means a women looks powerful in media when a man looks weak, to me this is nonsense. It's literally Anita Sarkeesian's argument that women being kidnapped in media is shitting on women in reverse.
As for Mary Sue's, what does the concept of a badly written character without flaws have to do with women inherently? Why not just call it bad writing? There are male 'Mary Sue's' all over the place and some of them are loved, it's just a weird double standard to me.
@googley98 Clearly, you're making an assumption that people who are right of center on the political spectrum place tradition above all else to the point that they cannot accept anything that breaks the bounds of those traditions. You're free to correct me on my own assumption; I'm simply basing it on your responses.
Conservatives as a whole are not hellbent on denying anything outside of the realm of tradition. There are some but they do not speak for the majority, especially not in the western world. If that were the case, then women would still have extremely limited roles in society today.
Countless conservatives are fine with progress in various areas at a controlled pace with some hard lines drawn in other areas. Not all conservatives are looking to drive women back into the home to be stay at home moms. What is important to conservatives about the man/woman dichomety is that we acknowledge the differences the sexes possess, which is something that Mulan explored fairly well without backhanding its male viewers and highlighting that women can be strong in their own way too.
There's an explicit difference between showing a woman being competent amongst men and repeatedly reinforcing the bad qualities of men while only highlighting the good qualities of women like we see with increasing frequency in the media today. I brought up Mary Sue characters because some modern movies are looking to push the agenda that men are toxic and women are all beautiful, wonderful and without flaws. They are often pretty on the nose with the addition of Mary Sue characters as their leads to mantle their poltiical opinipns.
Gary Stu characters also exist but a lot of people have issues relating to uncompelling characters like that as well. And with the current progressive bent pushing back against anything that's too masculine, Gary Stus are less likely to be found in modern media anyway; with the exception of pre-existing, long-running characters.
Destiny is a strange fellow Ain't he. I think hes an even bigger hypocrite than Hassan or Pokimane imo.
example?
Lol that's just wrong
I wouldn't go THAT far lol
The more i watch your channel the more i see the people i like to watch in shades of color I don’t like or wasn’t aware of. First moist, asmon, and now destiny.
And it’s like i watched these people because i felt like their views weren’t tainted. But, now I don’t trust youtubers like this anymore.
Good
@@Blurredborderlines thanks
They’re people like everyone else. Flawed. It’s okay to be skeptical of everyone but don’t let it completely discount them or otherwise you’re going to just eventually be disappointed with everyone and completely black pilled.
@@ZaZaZoo22 i like your explanation. so youre saying you can separate someones poor choices from who they are as people? bcuz i definitely dont want to just feel like everyone who i thought was on the same page as me was really just is a completely different person.
maybe its like, you should view people in there mistakes as just mistakes, and there one off moment doesn't have to be a reflection of their entire knowledge
i think is okay for destiny to do this , i mean hes a content creator which feeds from attention , and thats nothing bad at all. sneako is in his rigth to talk about anything he wants , but he has to keep the distance if he doesnt want to be a target of this kind of behavior. i mean i dont support any type of argument between people lifes as long as they own dont harm anyone but themselfs , which here seems to be the case , so im all about this type of shit talk if you gonna be talking about something such important for an adult like its parenting , which i doubt sneako knows truly how destiny is doing in this regard.
Another great video from my favourite UA-camr. 👏
hope u get that heart react bro
@@ClownCar666 and I did 🔥🔥
Me and my wife’s boyfriend enjoyed this
So beliefs and family are on the same level of personal. I think we all know what destiny means when he says personal. He’s talking about family. And shit doesn’t need to be private to be personal. Sneako brought in family first by judging his family but u when u do the same shit for sneako. That would ruin his career as u said. And destiny made it clear he burns bridges when u talk shit about his family. Also he judges prescriptions. When myron on fresh n fit says one sided open relationship is the way to go for most men then ofc destiny is gonna judge that. He isn’t judging anyone specifically. He’s judging the prescriptions. Why are these things so hard to understand
10:45 - it’s always so irritating when Destiny pretends he’s not as chronically online as his opponents when he brings up “people in the real world.” This man hasn’t had a proper job in over a decade, and is streaming debate and commentary content 24/7. He’s the last person to lecture anyone on what life in the “real world” is like.
😂😂😂
This video was not based nor was it redpilled
You just posted cringe 😬
@@Crs664 no u, this is epistemically NOT based!
Destiny seems to do this a lot. When someone comes at him and he doesn't like it he starts making it about the form of the attack or the specific subject of it that he doesn't like.
For some reason he seems to think criticism of him has to be in his preferred method and arena. HE'S free at any time to decide what he attacks YOU on and you're expected to stay within those boundaries or not escalate the situation he starts.
He did this with leafy recently as well.
Honestly I think this comes from never having to really defend himself from a position of weakness.
He doesn't really start shit with people that have solid arguments or positions. It's always low hanging fruit, very flawed people or those who aren't equipped to properly retaliate.
would be nice to see you talk to him. ussually convos are more in depth rather than a surface level opinion on a video. but you probably arent gonna
3:42 Yeah he generally doesn't judge, but will say on a podcast what Andrew Tate must be miserable and sad for having such materialistic lifestyle (not like i disagree, it's just people who claim to be non-judgemental are usually the ones who are).
Also comment about one-sided open relationships are cringe, bro he is in one. Check Dr. K podcast with malena, she said what steven doesn't like when shes dating other people, so she doesn't do it. Things might have changed, but even then its pretty hypocritical to call it cringe where you were in that type of relationships in the past.
to put the left in the same bag as the christian far right is a very elegant dunk....and so true! :)
EDIT: wow, that last clip, and the one where he talks about destroying/convincing people - thats a very good leftist self-report! amazing you found this! THANKS!
Are you being ironic? Because being far left is correlated with high psychopathology, criminality, being high in only the individualizing moral foundations, etc, while being religious and identifying as further right on a spectrum is correlated with the opposite. There are "sjws" of the right who are narcissistic and thus high in psychopathology yet high in purity or some other trait that makes them identify with the right more broadly, though usually something like fascism/third position, but they are quite rare always online types found in niche communities
@@TheThreatenedSwan buddy, i get the same feeling with your ramblings as with those lefties....get off your high horse!
Also, the internet is the only place where a 34 y/o can throw moral judgement onto a 24 y/o and it seem normal. This would be a weird conversation to observe irl
😂 not really. Older people are always casting moral judgement on the youth in real life.
In what world can you not orally judge someone because you're older than him? 24 isn't even that young lol
I remember watching a podcast with destiny where he said if it wasn't for his partner he would've aborted his son, and he doesn't care if he hears that. After that I lost what little respect I had for that blue haired gimp
Although u made some points, this video leaves out a lot of context
If anything Destiny is the most good faith and most real friend Sneako has in the space. It's not when Sneako crosses the line and not only calls Destiny a dead beat dad, and lies about having a relationship with Melina, that Destiny has to cut him off. They've had civil debates, but their situation has become someting more personal than something that is epistemic or politcal.
If you side with sneako on anything you have brain rot
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Destiny is just a high verbal tilt guy who can talk fast and play semantic games, but he doesn't actually say much of substance.
2:50 This is girl stuff.
Im a fan of both of these guys, I hope Destiny reacts to this cause you raise some very valid critcism which he hasn't encountered in a while
Blue hair tactics
Im a fan of destiny, but that whole response was such a cope, although i do understand that destiny's tweet was nowhere near as bad as sneako's, destiny leaking private shit and then moral standing is sad
After Destiny got dog walked by Nick Fuentes after their recent debate on F&F, he’s just been sperging out on everyone who’s laughing at him, he’s REALLY showing how sad he is lol
thats a really telling interpretation of that debate because imo destiny made nick look like the child he is. Absolutely brain dead, populist moron.
Yeah that was my first time watching him debate someone. Ngl he really is just an example of your average lib and how much of a snake they can be.
@@pood40o72 the funny thing is that Destiny is 10 years older than Nick but he locked like that was his first time debating someone 😂
@@spudlypotato9059He had his ass handed to him by Nakedape, Mr Metokur and Alt Hype before. He's a good talker but when people find chinks, it falls apart.