John Raine on the Future of New Zealand Universities

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  • Опубліковано 26 жов 2024

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  • @trevorgleeson432
    @trevorgleeson432 2 місяці тому +33

    Scarey 🙁
    We must have science, technology, engineering and maths graduates to build NZ's economy.
    Psychology and Maori studies do little good for NZ except clogging up govt departments with increased employees adding no value but costing taxpayers highly 😡

    • @gordoncooke6785
      @gordoncooke6785 2 місяці тому

      National created this problem by commercialization of education, like trump they love exploiting the uneducated.

  • @rotofotonz5150
    @rotofotonz5150 2 місяці тому +17

    Classic example of go woke go broke

  • @rod-contracts1616
    @rod-contracts1616 2 місяці тому +25

    What a lot of complete rubbish. Keep Maori "knowledge" as far away from the education system as possible. It'll just dumb down education more than already.

    • @turangatohiariki3042
      @turangatohiariki3042 Місяць тому

      THEY DID WHY BANK'S GAVE LOAN'S FOR LAND DEED'S THEN CLAIMED THE LAND'S

  • @neilstuarr2278
    @neilstuarr2278 2 місяці тому +20

    They cannot call themselves academia if they are woke and racist thru maorification. Its 1 thing to honor maori but another to create race based rules on what to learn

  • @peterwiles1299
    @peterwiles1299 2 місяці тому +13

    Yes, it’s a tragedy in the making. I did my PhD in engineering at Canterbury. One of the first things my supervisor did was hand me a copy of Karl Popper’s philosophy of science. I also suggest reading Steven Weinberg’s To explain the world - the discovery of modern science. Spirituality has no place in science. If you want spirituality, then a temple, mosque or church might be a useful place to reside.

  • @hariseldon3786
    @hariseldon3786 2 місяці тому +18

    Academic standards have seriously dropped while costs increase. All one has to do is look at what has happened to universities overseas. People DID come for a marketable education - that is slipping bc of the Universities. I have completed a Doctorate on this matter. What is happening is appalling - and it is true that STEM is suffering. Universities are pumping out more and more either 'compromised" or "useless" degrees - that people are convinced to foolishly pay top-dollar for. Convinced of the belief that, that is a marketable degree. Tough Luck.

  • @markwilson9935
    @markwilson9935 2 місяці тому +16

    I would never go to university unless doing the hard sciences...maths,physics,biology,medical etc. Everything else learn from your local library...especially gender studies. Its in the children's section!

  • @sueedwards9334
    @sueedwards9334 2 місяці тому +9

    I am starting to get seriously concerned about what my grandchildren will be taught - or more worryingly what they won’t be taught - when they get to secondary school in a +outlet of years.

    • @traditionalfood367
      @traditionalfood367 2 місяці тому +1

      Indeed, are their primary school teachers even literate and numerate?
      Most primary teachers themselves can't distinguish:
      hare, hear, here
      their, there, they're
      to, too, two
      wear, we're, where
      Such teachers fail to correct "could of" to could've or could have
      Above all, pupils can't learn at school to think because they're not taught to categorise, by learning units of measurement, parts of speech, etc.
      The most basic home schooling would be better; a laptop with some relevant material that doesn't encourage them to hate their country and themselves.

  • @michaeld.1128
    @michaeld.1128 2 місяці тому +8

    Academic welfare. The state should only subsidies STEM courses.

  • @leylandbarr7247
    @leylandbarr7247 2 місяці тому +14

    I wish Maori would not just come down to earth but leave the irrelevances of the 18-19th century behind just like us Europeans have done.
    There’s no shame in that .
    The Maori World of the 18th century is not the world that is now. It goes far beyond our borders.
    Factual evidence and logic can never be disproven by “ beliefs”, from whatever source these beliefs, past or present, originate from.

    • @turangatohiariki3042
      @turangatohiariki3042 Місяць тому

      DIFFRENCE YOU WERE ALL CONQUERD FOR YOUR LAND'S BACK THEN WHEN WE GOT A TREATY FOR A EQUAL BATTLE & KEPT OUR LAND'S

    • @leylandbarr7247
      @leylandbarr7247 Місяць тому

      @@turangatohiariki3042
      Agee that all those lands illegally taken returned.
      But a lot was legitimately sold by Maori.
      Maori weren’t perfect either .
      They often sold the same lots land to different buyers, as was often their custom.
      For example, Banks Peninsula was purchased legitimately by the French from Maori. 16 chiefs of the district signed the agreement. But some of that land was sold again by Maori chiefs.. …..It was the British that sorted that lot out after the Treaty signing.

    • @turangatohiariki3042
      @turangatohiariki3042 Місяць тому

      @@leylandbarr7247 BEFORE COLONISATION when they were bank deed's then sold We had LAND WAR'S TO GET OUR EQUAL RIGHT'S AS A BRITTISH CITISEN & NATIVE MAORI PEOPLE OF NEW ZEALAND & @ that time as The Treaty was gein signed only 2 people's were here were 1st ENGLISH & Maori

    • @turangatohiariki3042
      @turangatohiariki3042 Місяць тому

      @@leylandbarr7247 The CROWN GAVE THE TREATY NOT THE BRITTISH our TREATY was given after the LAND WAR'S with 3 PRINCIPALS all of a sudden got lost in transition to be simply replaced by the Governess (REWORDING) which was ment to be a shared governess FOR THIS EXACT REASON

    • @leylandbarr7247
      @leylandbarr7247 Місяць тому

      @@turangatohiariki3042
      Just tell one thing .
      Are you unhappy living in this world of today or would you rather live like
      people did in 1820. ?

  • @bobbob3834-j8r
    @bobbob3834-j8r 2 місяці тому +10

    Wasted money on 3000BC science. Wasted money everywhere.

  • @denyswoodroffe490
    @denyswoodroffe490 2 місяці тому +10

    The N.Z university need to look at their cost structure. It look like money is being wasted, due to poor management and performance.

    • @sueedwards9334
      @sueedwards9334 2 місяці тому +1

      And lots of unnecessary woke rubbish.

  • @jackdeniston6150
    @jackdeniston6150 2 місяці тому +24

    If they continue like this, they need to fail.

    • @ninjabeatz905
      @ninjabeatz905 2 місяці тому

      They were never successful. just a ground for radical ideology

    • @turangatohiariki3042
      @turangatohiariki3042 Місяць тому

      THE BRITTISH COULDN'T CONQUER US FOR OUR LAND'S BUT THIS LOT & LIE'S PRIVY COUNCIL

  • @sonpollo8995
    @sonpollo8995 2 місяці тому +5

    It comes down to how much a course costs...science courses are expensive to operate. Social "sciences" and Law are inexpensive to operate. New Zealand needs to cut some of the poorly performing universities and increase the funding for universities performing well. At least two universities should be cut/merged.

  • @maverick214
    @maverick214 2 місяці тому +1

    I visited my alma mater Massey University (the real Massey University in Palmerston North) a few months ago during the first semester. I was shocked at how empty it felt. No vibe to the place and a noticeable lack of students on campus. I've heard they've culled a lot of courses. No surprise given what I experienced.

  • @geoffreydawson5430
    @geoffreydawson5430 2 місяці тому +10

    So, it takes 2 hours to speak to a computer to get a simple answer. That I could once speak to a human with common sense and get shit sorted.

    • @peterrhodes5663
      @peterrhodes5663 2 місяці тому

      I've had WINZ deduct around $60 from the last 2 pension payments. Went there in person, and talked to actual people with expensive computers, and asked for an explanation. After 5 minutes of searching, they couldn't explain. Maybe this, maybe that. Not much common sense there. Still don't know why. Staffed by primary school dropouts?

  • @twophotons
    @twophotons 2 місяці тому +5

    Virology is not science based. The first to go. Then the funding model. They are to educate Kiwi's not foreigners. They are places for truth not ideology. So much of all the problems today go back to money corruption.

  • @mxvega1097
    @mxvega1097 2 місяці тому +5

    NZ Universities should do the smart thing and specialise in subjects underpinned by solid empirics, and robust liberal argumentation frameworks. That's the point of difference that will be most sought after once the rest of western academe finally crawls up its own relativistic fundament. And commit to the free speech principles in the Chicago Charter or similar.
    Myth, legend, and relativism can be learned online or at nightschool. If it can't be evidenced, it does not belong in a uni.

  • @mylesgreen9900
    @mylesgreen9900 2 місяці тому +12

    Amazing Myth over common sense and science.

    • @saregama-r8td
      @saregama-r8td 2 місяці тому

      Facts and logic are not common sense. These concepts are not one in the same. Amazing eh?

    • @calstonjew
      @calstonjew 2 місяці тому +1

      Maoridom.

    • @turangatohiariki3042
      @turangatohiariki3042 Місяць тому

      Our land war's were real how we got the TREATY

  • @gregvanpaassen
    @gregvanpaassen 2 місяці тому +5

    I agree. In order to graduate, every student should be able to state and prove Green's Theorem.

    • @saregama-r8td
      @saregama-r8td 2 місяці тому

      I typed "how to prove Green's Theorem" in Google search.

  • @Pid75
    @Pid75 2 місяці тому +1

    Water does have memory. Olaf said so

  • @michaelcammock
    @michaelcammock 2 місяці тому +2

    Nano Science in itself has a certain "belief quotient" within it that it can work within certain structures that contain something equivalent to that of Ammonia that can be "Programmed" ?.... Is that right ?....

    • @peterwiles1299
      @peterwiles1299 2 місяці тому

      Do you know what you are talking about?

    • @Peter_Pepper_Love
      @Peter_Pepper_Love 2 місяці тому

      ...possible 🤔

    • @michaelcammock
      @michaelcammock 2 місяці тому

      @@peterwiles1299 just going on some information that I learnt about years ago and just putting it out there to see if anyone else knew about this phenomenon ? Of which I believe can not happen by the way, but even then some may want to debate about it ?....

  • @elettewheeler7893
    @elettewheeler7893 2 місяці тому

    $5 Billion dollars from people of limited earnings is milking the golden goose of the future. A failing model.

  • @traditionalfood367
    @traditionalfood367 2 місяці тому

    Absolutely not worth the fees.
    Not worth the time of attending on scholarship (fees paid).
    Complete waste of time and money since, say, 2010, if not years before then.

  • @saregama-r8td
    @saregama-r8td 2 місяці тому +6

    New Government no changes eh.

    • @LeonardHarrisLH
      @LeonardHarrisLH 2 місяці тому

      Were you expecting any?

    • @saregama-r8td
      @saregama-r8td 2 місяці тому

      @@LeonardHarrisLH I expect it to get worse for the majority of people, especially platform subscribers.

  • @Sharpy7562
    @Sharpy7562 2 місяці тому

    Mates millionaires no education just common sense

  • @calstonjew
    @calstonjew 2 місяці тому +5

    My father used to have a joke:
    "How does a Maori get into university? As the cleaner"
    That was long before _Diversity_ quotas and useless degrees in Mystic Woo.