only need rina c1, anything else is worse. Honestly it's arguably nekomata/lycaon who's best to c6 among them, though I feel billy's c6 gives more than neko's.
@@yyhn7168definitely not nekomata, especially with lighter coming out for soldier 11 who is basically the only fire dps except if you decide to on field burnice. Physical you have piper who’s amazing, billy and corin as f2p options and jane if you want a limited unit.
@@Kindi001 If Rina is the best pull on the standard banner, then the Restraint is objectively the worst item you could pull-it’s not even best-in-slot for the character it was intended for.
Small note about Koleda, she has a *really* really powerful dodge counter that sets up with daze very nice. Vs weaker enemies she’s not gonna feel as good but against stronger bosses that you’re gonna dodge a lot she’s actually pretty fluid
My advice: 1) Pull a stunner if you only have Anby and won't pull Lighter. 2) If you are good on stunners, Rina has the best futureproof of all choices. M1 Rina is a beast. 3) Grace if you really wanna build an Anomaly team and lack agents for that. 4) Soldier 11 if you lack a DPS or a functional fire team
thank you for the advice. I'll take 4 because I don't have Burnice, but I have Koleda and M6 Lucy. What about the Other 3? 1. Already have Koleda and I prefer the Anomaly team 2. Already have M1 Rina 3. Yanagi is coming
@@kacper0563 Because on a team based gacha game you are guaranteed to face enemies highly resistant or outright immune to anomaly at some point, or you could come across stages with significant buffs to stunners. Mihoyo will certainly use these tactics as way to force you into maintaining several teams of different compositions. Having 2 stunners on standby will always be a good idea.
I'm picking Lycaon. I don't have any ice character other than Soukaku, and I don't want to rely on Soukaku. Also after playing the Victoria Housekeeping chapter in the main scenario, plus Lycaon's own agent story, I actually grew to like the guy pretty much
Rina M1 is by far the most noticeable mindscape. Without it her buff uptime is pathetic and makes her very stressful to use to make the most out of her small buff window. M1 makes it much more lenient, albeit it still being short. I'd personally not recommend just getting Rina without her M1 after extensively having used her at M0 without sig. All the other picks function fine without mindscapes. It really comes down to specific accounts and what the goal is though. No pick is objectively vastly superior to another, because they all fall in their own niche. I'd say Lycoan has a slight edge though if an account is missing stunners and not planning to pull for Lighter. He's generally considered the highest value pick in his niche, even without Ellen.
I like the fact that Ceaser is not even a stuner unit yet you still include her when talk about stuner goes to show strong she is at her job and stuner job
Personally, I feel like when we get more of Obol Squad. Soldier 11 might become really good. Itd be hilarious if it would turn her into a full fledge CoD like character with killstreaks and shit🤣🤣
I love Soldier 11 and her gameplay, but she's a 1.0 standard S rank character my guy... she's gonna hit a ceiling that future limited DPS's will surpass easily sad to say
@neil5458 That's fair, but we can't always assume that. Take FGO for consideration. There are several 5 star servants in that game that are 1.0 and are still extremely good thanks to support from more current ones. And 1.0 for FGO was roughly 10ish years ago, and hell, there are 5 star support servants from almost 5ish years ago that are better than most of the current ones. So for all we know, Obol squad could bring in a support that allows Soldier 11 to call in an AC130 or Tactical Nuke🤷♂️🤷♂️.
I don't think I've spent any actual money on the standard banner, (a bit on the others, but only a bit) and between the free pulls at launch plus all the other free pulls from content, poly earned from playing, and leveling up agents I'm within 20 pulls of getting it, IIRC. There is also the signal stuff from all the copies of A rank agents I've pulled *after* having their mindscape finished, that's probably accounted for at least 10-20 or so of the 300.
@@NicBoffin I been playing since launch and I'm still around 70 away granted I don't have all my agents lvl 60 but I do have at least 7 lvl 60 agents and I do my shiyu and hallow zero content all the time
I chose Lycaon cuz he was the reason I downloaded the game and I still hadn't got him when I reached 300. Immediately put him on a team with ellen and sokaku, and I love playing him. Characters that are confident make me feel empowered when I play them
I did 164 pulls ( 50/50 loss included ) for burnice and I got so frustrated with the lack of free pulls I bought a 10 pull to finally get her. I'm not happy, I'm just relieved.
thats me with Cesar. im not buying the pull, but waiting the Shiyuu deffense update since that was my last chance to get her. manage to get her + her W engine was really beyond what i hope.
I currently eyeing Rina m1 or Grace m1, or maybe even Lycaon since I have his Signature. I'll probably hold off in picking up the selector until miyabi comes though
If it makes it any easier, Rina M1 outpaces Grace M1 by a lot already, and the gap will only widen in the long-term. Pen will get better the longer the game goes on and values inflate, whereas energy issues that Grace needs to fix with M1 will become less and less of an thing as agents powercreep upwards and come with fewer inherent flaws. Waiting for Miyabi is a good call though
6:47 Can I ask what you meant when you said that Lycaon is niche with the addition of Caesar? Does Caesar stun better than him or is the overall utility she provides simply better than his ability to stun?
@@SwitchbackCh Ohhhh gotcha gotcha. So would that mean that Lycaon is technically better than Caesar for ice teams because he both stuns better and applies a buff to them, or is Caesar's universal buff even better than his ice buff?
I got Koleda before I hit 300, but I got her again when I reached 300. C2 Koleda was my goal and I have it now, she's absolutely amazing with Piper and Lucy. Can practically stunlock most Shiyu bosses for half of the fight.
I already have Grace, Rina and Koleda. I decided to go for the ones I don't have, but I most likely pull for Soldier 11 for a complete fire team unless I get her before I reach 300.
Rina def was on my day one to get list for 2 obvious reasons 😊 But ingot koleda instead and I've come to love her! Now 2 months later with grace and nekomata to my roster I still want my Rina
I've gotten Soldier twice and am only missing Koleda. I really wanted to complete the base roster but with Lighter coming in as my first true waifu pull I might aim for cinemas instead. I'll get her some 50-50. Soldier's M2 is looking tempting for sure!
For me it was Soldier 11. - I needed a real DPS on my account and that's her. - At 300 pulls, I already had Koleda (C1) from the "standard" banner and Von Lycaon (C0) actually dropped on pull 297, so that took him out of the running. - Add S11 to Koleda and Ben, and Rocket Boo, and there's my carry team. Fine, it's mono-fire... but it's a lot of fire. :) **I hate Lucy's gameplay, so I wouldn't know ... but I've heard she's a good match for S11 as well. If I got a second choice, it would have been Grace. - I like her gameplay - I love Belobog. - Anomaly + Electric is a nice combo.
Leak speculation ahead Yanagi Rina is looking to be an absolute dreamteam. Extending shock means bigger disorders for Yanagi to buff further, and her pen buff will go nicely with Yanagis own alleged pen buff from her stance switching, since Pen gets better the more of it you have. I don't really see Grace every having much value once you've got Yanagi, if my Grace wasn't M2 already I'd grab her for sure.
I have all but Rina, Koleda, and Lycoan and still need to choose. Im planning on using Caesar and Lighter. So some are telling me Lighter's ice buff helps with Lycoan here? other than that I'll aim for Miyabi but she's forever away.
Meta is good and all and this video will likely help some people decide. I really wanted S11 after randomly pulling her engine in the standard banner, but then I got her while wishing for Burnice anyways, fire sisters! Now I'm kinda torn because I do have wolfy and Rina, I might just go Grace because of waifu reasons and I generally gravitate towards more "niche" playstyles like Geo in Genshin when all the rage is elemental reactions, DoT in HSR when hypercarry and break is "the thing", and I feel Anomaly will eventually become this in ZZZ. It's hot right now, but they'll probably change it up after a few patches... Also, anything that helps me towards that Grace wallpaper! ;)
I'm a ways away from the 300 still, so I'll probably wait til I'm at it to decide. ... Orrr it'll be like HSR and I haven't decided yet. I feel like ZZZ may be easier to pick though, since teams have one less member to have to synergize around. I got Neko to start, picked up Caesar, lost Burnice 50/50 to Grace (still a good unit), and got Lycaon randomly from Stable Banner. If I had to pick now, I'd probably go for Rina to help Grace out (and hopefully I get Burnice too)
My electric element representation is severely lacking and so my choice goes out to either Grace or Rina, depending on how Yanagi/Harumasa pull prospects go. If I can get either one of them as a focused electric DPS I will likely go with Rina, but I honestly may go with Rina anyway even if I don't, since I have put horizontal investment into Anton despite the rotation he plays without Grace being a little uncomfortable. if I happen upon one or the other before the 300 pick, the choice goes the other way, and in the case I get both, then I may just get Solder 11 to have all of the Standard S-ranks. Koleda Mindscape would be kinda nice though.
I’ve gotten quite lucky with my pulls and have managed to get Lycaon, Soldier 11, and Rina from the standard banner. I’m super conflicted on whether to get Grace or Koleda when I eventually get the chance. Grace is a good anomaly unit, but I want Koleda because I like her design and wanna pair her with Ben.
During Rina’s portion, I specified that i believe she’s the best way to go in terms of the current game state. Being able to buff Yanagi seems insane, and her M1 helps with that a ton. Thanks for watching!
Tbh i don’t think any of them going to last for long, just pick whoever you like. Full mindscape A ranks are better than most of them except for the stunners. Rina is decent, but everytime you needed a grouper Nicole is instantly better than her. If they released an actual limited S rank support, i think she’ll be benched permanently except for speedrunning purposes. Nekomata, there are 3 other physical dps in A ranks that’s basically on par with her. The only thing Soldier 11 has going for her is that she’s the only usable fire dps except for Burnice currently.
I believe these 6 Agents will be the only ones you can choose from. They may add standard S Ranks in the future (very unlikely) but i don’t think you’ll be able to use the 300 pulls on them
I picked grace after 300 pulls and as a new gacha player I used up a decent amount of polychrome on standard banner(because I was noob) but still got Jane, Qingyi and Burnice and almost all standard characters, just koleda is remaining
@@revo5124 umm I just didn't knew that polychrome was so limited resources and standard banner looked attractive as I could select a character after 300 pulls also grace looked more attractive to me than Ellen 😜, but also I sort of feel bad for not getting her 🥲
I chose lycon. But that was before all of these other characters came out at the time he was by far the best stunner. He's still really good now once you invest in him especially The s that he gets with his special and certain other moves makes him still viable
Currently 213 pulls in. My stable node luck has been very appreciated. As of now, I have Grace, Koleda, Nekomata, and Lycaon. I have a tough 50/50 to choose between, Soldier 11 would be huge for any fire teams I may want to build in the future, but Rina's Support and Pen% buffs are super powerful. Tough choices indeed.
If i don't "lose" my Yanagi 50/50 to her, im picking Soldier, if i do, im picking Lycaon. I don't have Koleda, but will get Lighter if i don't get Yanagi.
7:44 Nah Nah bro what about YOU 🫵 that wasa great breakdown of them and all but you didn't answered the question. Who's the BEST agent to choose in Zenless ?
I still haven't pulled on the standard banner, I think I have 178 pulls. I'll choose who I don't have. I have Grace and Soldier 11. Also is Koleda the worst?
in terms of value and her comparison with other Stunners/Defense Agents, yes she’s the ‘worst’ option. However if your objective is stunning enemies fast, she is no doubt the best Agent out of all of them to do this.
Since Anby is your only Stunner, you should pick the better out of the two Stunners, which is Lycaon. Koleda is great at stunning fast, but Lycaon provides more ultility compared to Koleda. He will also be great when Miyabi releases.
I will pick either grace or Lycaon, since i don't have them yet. grace would make a new team with Burnice and my M1 Rina. Lycaon would be an upgrade from my Anby on my Ellen team. Either way i would only need to build them and not a new team around them. Before i get the 300 though, i still have a guaranteed S-rank. So, I it will depend on if I get either of them then, or if I am more interested in pulling lighter than Lycaon.
with the upcoming addition of Miyabi I'd really like to make a full ice team as my first synergiesed team. Already have t2 Soukaku, still couldn't manage to pull Lycaon from the basic master tapes tho unfortionately.
I lack electric agents, I was actually thinking about Grace because I'm probably skipping the upcoming patch... However, now that I have Caesar and would like to use her with Ellen, Lycaon is a must for that team to work.
going for M2 Rina when i get mine, she was my first S rank and the second as well (lost 50/50 for Caesar), and i really like how Anby plays so im looking to build a Mono Electric team so M6 would be great lol
@@RadioRentalx I'm so upset, im always doing everything to get all the pulls and polychromes. A lot of people started talking about the 300 milestone recently and im anxious thinking that i lost a 100 free pulls code sonwhere cause no way everyone is close to 300
@@D3zhumer ehhh dont worry to much if you always do your Shiyu deffense, Hollow Zero, and buy the monthly i think nothing the worry about. if people really have much closer to 300 pull its either they using the monochrome, or build all the character which is quite taken alot of resource for 3 standar pull each character. nothing to be stress
Tbh I’m missing Rina, Lycaon, and Koleda, so if I do get to that, I’ll probably pick Koleda or Lycaon, because having Anby as the only stun is kind of annoying. If I didn’t have that issue, I’d probably pick Rina.
I'm personally stuck between M1 Lycaon (Certified Lycaon main) or Rina in terms of long-term value. I'm planning on most likely pulling for Miyabi, depending on how fun her kit is and how much it suits my playstyle. If not, I'll probably save up for Ellen Joe's rerun or another future character im interested in!
I’m probs gonna hit the selector next month and I’m torn between Lycaon M6 and Rina M1 - one is super versatile giving a big buff and quality of life which can fit well into shock/ disorder teams and gains value the more defence enemies get so it’s likely to be the agent that ages better; the other makes a stunner a dps early enough into the game he could actually hold his own with other M0 (particularly standard) dps - and the role consolidation is super nice for fitting an extra support or working as a subdps in say an anomaly team.
@@flossinonyou well obvs I couldn’t control it with him being a standard agent so I can’t really take credit as a lycaon main or anything but I am trying to put him to good use after seeing him at the vast majority of my losses/ standard banner s ranks
I'm almost at the 300 pulls mark and I have 3 of the 6 already. all that's left is nekomata s11 and Rina. so s11 or Rina (I got Jane lmao) And its tough to choose because I love Grace and Rina helps her but s11 is also pretty good too.
Me who already chose Lycaon during Qingyi's Banner: Interesting... Ah but forreal Rina for me was my first S Rank off standard. Overtime I have obtained another copy of Rina and obtained another copy of Lycaon on my birthday a few weeks ago. I just want Rina's Signiture at this point lol
I’m torn. I’m running a Neko/Caesar/Nicole team rn. Neko’s M1 would be tremendously helpful, and by the time I reach 180 pulls on standard I’ll have enough to buy her weapon from the shop. However, I actually really like Soldier 11’s playstyle and she could be a good future investment for when we get more Obol agents. I also really like Lycaon’s playstyle-not that I want to choose him for M1 BUT rather that having another Victoria Housekeeping unit would give me more chance to play him since I skipped Ellen (and I like Anton’s playstyle way more than Corin’s if we’re considering who my third on the team would be). I also already have her signature weapon, just waiting to be used. TL;DR: I’m stuck between Neko’s M1, Soldier, and Rina rn.
i've been seen a corin/qingyi/rina burst and i must say having a short buff is likely be a "burst strategy" rather than a simple debuff (her w-engine also last a few secs) and i have rina so the logistic choice would be her for her M1 but im gonna skip lighter and i have ellen (and also want to free up qingyi from my ellen team) so im gravitating towards lycaon oh and also his engine spooked me so yeah...
If you don't have many stunners, Lycacon or Koleda are probably your best bet. Lycacon is probably worth more on average if you have a Corrin, as it allows you to run Sokkaku, Lycacon, Corrin as a decent stun team. Koleda is super helpful if you have Soldier 11, but is otherwise just an alternate elemental stun option to Anby.
Im gonna pull for lighter and he will become my main stunner, i main anton, ellen and kinda soldier 11 so i think he will be the best but now idk if i wanna choose Rina or lycaon...
The only two characters I haven’t gotten are the two sisters of belobog industries. I’ve gotten the other 4 already, but I will try to pull those 2 anyway. I have a certain principle of “No man or teammate left behind”.
Haven’t gotten to 300 pulls yet since I’ve been focusing on exclusive banners. But I think I want nekomata to make a good physical team with anby and piper since I already have Burnice.
I'm 30 wishes away from 300, certainly that's still around two months but I'm early debating between S1 Lycaon or S0 Soldier 11, I have everyone else luckily and with my Burnice with Signature and C6 Lucy, I debate the need of more fire
Only missing Grace and Koleda from 225 standard pulls and losing all but 1 50/50 on exclusives, with the only dupe being a Neko (who my game seems to like since I also got her signature from standard) Leaning towards M1 Rina over collection completion tbh.
my ranking: 1. Rina (fits in the most teams) 2. Lycaon (if you have Ellen) if not, Soldier 11 3. Grace (different enough from other anomaly) 4.Koleda (slow, but useful) 5. Nekomata
I first got Soldier, then her engine a few pulls later. I then got Lycaon when I lost my Jane's 50-50. I then got Grace on a double S with Jane. I then lost my Ceasar 50-50 to Nekomata. At that point I was close to hard pity AND my 300th pull. I went into singles until I got to 300. Selected RIna. I had enough tapes for another few pulls and got Koleda! Ended up getting the two I was missing almost back to back. My luck has run out.
I was forced to make an electric team in order to clear shiyu defense. I say forced because while pulling for Cáesar I got 6 copies of Anton so better put them to use. I am pulling for Rina whenever possible, and even tho I already have got Lycaon, Lighter is coming home. Also, I'm waiting for Ellen to return since I wasn't around when her banner was up, and Rina/Lighter would make a great team with her. I Hope she comes after miyabi
If I picked today my account would be most improved with Soldier 11. However despite playing since day 1 I'm still 100 pulls away and will no doubt have more of my needs fulfilled by the time I reach 300. By the time I get to the 300 mark everyone will have been powercrept and the decision will be of little weight.
i just pick whatever i don't have, since i can clear any game content with my teams now. maybe i'll use mine if already completed all standard but one, but sadly i need to lose 50:50 everytime and hoping get the right char (which is takes a lot of time) lmao but if i have to pick now, lycaon > s11 > grace
Started playing cuz Burnice but lost 50/50 with soldier 11, at first, I never used her but then I started to try her, and maybe is one of my favorite characters, also now I have armpit fetish so... yeah 11 is the best option
I'm a new player and got nekomata, since I've got used to m0 neko, m6 anby, m1 nicole. still confused if i should pick neko or rina cause I got yanagi recently. edit : i mean, is nekomata and her gang still good on higher interknot? I'm currently on interknot 35.
@@LucyMaymake To your first question: If you’re planning on using Neko mats long term, her M1 gives a significant DMG boost to her when enemies are stunned. However, if you want to move on and build another team for Yanagi, Rina is hands down the best choice for you To your second question: Is nekomata viable later on? Short answer is yes. These characters will always be good as long as you know how to operate your team. Soldier 11 is my favorite character, and while she isn’t the most viable, she still clears content easily. It’s all about what direction you want to go. If you like Nekomata, you should invest. You’ll have more fun playing the game that way
@@flossinonyou thankyou very much for you advice, I think I'm gonna main nekomata. I like how agile she is in a combat, and I still learning battle mechanics because I still missed the chains sometimes. I love cunning hares so much, their chemistry as a comedy agency in the story. especially nicole, she has Jessie team rocket energy from pokemon.
Im just taking my sweet time pulling on the standard banner, my initial goal was to Lycaon once I reach 300 but now, it has changed bec I pulled Koleda in my first 10 standard pull, got an M6 Lucy and pulled Burnice on the limited banner. I have yet to pull a decent S Rank DPS agent for my team with the exception of Nekomata. Basically, I just roll with whatever RNG has for me and I just have to look up on potential synergy and experiment So far, the game has blessed me with a Fire Team that helped me get through the content, caught up to CHapter 4 and managed to do farming quick. Now, Im saving up for Lighter and considered skipping Yanagi. Im thinking and wondering if I could build a team with two Stunner agents: Lighter (DPS build if that may work) and Lycaon + Soukaku/Lucy
If value is your goal, there’s only one right answer: Rina. She’s the only character who’s going to keep getting better as enemies become stronger.
only need rina c1, anything else is worse. Honestly it's arguably nekomata/lycaon who's best to c6 among them, though I feel billy's c6 gives more than neko's.
@@yyhn7168definitely not nekomata, especially with lighter coming out for soldier 11 who is basically the only fire dps except if you decide to on field burnice. Physical you have piper who’s amazing, billy and corin as f2p options and jane if you want a limited unit.
i would pick M1 Lycaon or M1 Nekomata since i have her W engine
@@Kindi001
If Rina is the best pull on the standard banner, then the Restraint is objectively the worst item you could pull-it’s not even best-in-slot for the character it was intended for.
Even Rina will get powercrept to better supports eventually, probably even to the same kind of kit with higher multipliers.
for some reason, I think the video is telling me to pick S11
S11 gameplay is very clunky imho.
Solid choice if you don't have her. Her fire suppression essentially makes her Anby but with much more engaging gameplay.
I run her with Burnice and Lucy pretty good
@@kailaniivo I agree. I liker but I wish her fire suppression was more rewarding, you have to focus a lot just for normal dps performance
@@lucaria6164 what could possibly make you say that? 😅
Small note about Koleda, she has a *really* really powerful dodge counter that sets up with daze very nice. Vs weaker enemies she’s not gonna feel as good but against stronger bosses that you’re gonna dodge a lot she’s actually pretty fluid
My advice:
1) Pull a stunner if you only have Anby and won't pull Lighter.
2) If you are good on stunners, Rina has the best futureproof of all choices. M1 Rina is a beast.
3) Grace if you really wanna build an Anomaly team and lack agents for that.
4) Soldier 11 if you lack a DPS or a functional fire team
thank you for the advice. I'll take 4 because I don't have Burnice, but I have Koleda and M6 Lucy. What about the Other 3?
1. Already have Koleda and I prefer the Anomaly team
2. Already have M1 Rina
3. Yanagi is coming
Who needs stunners if you can just play anomaly on both teams now
@@kacper0563 Because on a team based gacha game you are guaranteed to face enemies highly resistant or outright immune to anomaly at some point, or you could come across stages with significant buffs to stunners. Mihoyo will certainly use these tactics as way to force you into maintaining several teams of different compositions. Having 2 stunners on standby will always be a good idea.
@@LemonRush7777 Nah I'd spend
@@kacper0563 you will mad if I say this but.....
I use Koleda on Jane's team 😀
6:59 those aren't rumors it was in 1.3 livestream that lighter decrease ice and fire dmg res
ah thanks for letting me know! I must’ve missed that during the stream
its 15% res
I'm picking Lycaon. I don't have any ice character other than Soukaku, and I don't want to rely on Soukaku. Also after playing the Victoria Housekeeping chapter in the main scenario, plus Lycaon's own agent story, I actually grew to like the guy pretty much
Rina M1 is by far the most noticeable mindscape. Without it her buff uptime is pathetic and makes her very stressful to use to make the most out of her small buff window. M1 makes it much more lenient, albeit it still being short.
I'd personally not recommend just getting Rina without her M1 after extensively having used her at M0 without sig. All the other picks function fine without mindscapes.
It really comes down to specific accounts and what the goal is though. No pick is objectively vastly superior to another, because they all fall in their own niche. I'd say Lycoan has a slight edge though if an account is missing stunners and not planning to pull for Lighter. He's generally considered the highest value pick in his niche, even without Ellen.
5:56 that cracked me up lmao
Mindscapes are prolly the way to go for this, good call to discuss which ones do the most for which agent.
I like the fact that Ceaser is not even a stuner unit yet you still include her when talk about stuner goes to show strong she is at her job and stuner job
Personally, I feel like when we get more of Obol Squad. Soldier 11 might become really good. Itd be hilarious if it would turn her into a full fledge CoD like character with killstreaks and shit🤣🤣
i need Obol Squad members so bad 😭
I love Soldier 11 and her gameplay, but she's a 1.0 standard S rank character my guy... she's gonna hit a ceiling that future limited DPS's will surpass easily sad to say
@@flossinonyou facts facts
@neil5458 That's fair, but we can't always assume that. Take FGO for consideration. There are several 5 star servants in that game that are 1.0 and are still extremely good thanks to support from more current ones. And 1.0 for FGO was roughly 10ish years ago, and hell, there are 5 star support servants from almost 5ish years ago that are better than most of the current ones. So for all we know, Obol squad could bring in a support that allows Soldier 11 to call in an AC130 or Tactical Nuke🤷♂️🤷♂️.
Have you even played gatcha games? She’s going to be power creeped fast
Lighter: "Rumor? What Rumor? They weren't lying, trust me."
How did people already get enough pulls for the 5 star selection
I don't think I've spent any actual money on the standard banner, (a bit on the others, but only a bit) and between the free pulls at launch plus all the other free pulls from content, poly earned from playing, and leveling up agents I'm within 20 pulls of getting it, IIRC.
There is also the signal stuff from all the copies of A rank agents I've pulled *after* having their mindscape finished, that's probably accounted for at least 10-20 or so of the 300.
@@NicBoffin I been playing since launch and I'm still around 70 away granted I don't have all my agents lvl 60 but I do have at least 7 lvl 60 agents and I do my shiyu and hallow zero content all the time
@@dgn-silver same, I played every day but never bought any standart pulls and I'm in 70 away to the guaranteed so don't worry
@@sharkall_todayyep and same to me aswell am 68 away from it lol
Just by buying some extras I think
I chose Lycaon cuz he was the reason I downloaded the game and I still hadn't got him when I reached 300. Immediately put him on a team with ellen and sokaku, and I love playing him. Characters that are confident make me feel empowered when I play them
Rina is my top choice. Id get grace but I'm definitely getting Yanagi.
I wanted to pick nekomata for her mindscape 1, but realized that lycaon is more important for me if I want second team to be ice (miyabi nation)
Well, I've got Rina at M1 (not by choice), so I guess I'll go for Lyacon for Ellen.
I did 164 pulls ( 50/50 loss included ) for burnice and I got so frustrated with the lack of free pulls I bought a 10 pull to finally get her. I'm not happy, I'm just relieved.
to be fair, that’s 6 less pulls than i plan for when pulling any champ
thats me with Cesar. im not buying the pull, but waiting the Shiyuu deffense update since that was my last chance to get her. manage to get her + her W engine was really beyond what i hope.
i got her after 80 pulls also with her engine, but WORTH IT!!!! she's op!!
Unless you have pulled for too many 5* theres is absolutly enough pulls, but you gotta play the game outside of just the story, dailies and events.
I currently eyeing Rina m1 or Grace m1, or maybe even Lycaon since I have his Signature. I'll probably hold off in picking up the selector until miyabi comes though
If it makes it any easier, Rina M1 outpaces Grace M1 by a lot already, and the gap will only widen in the long-term. Pen will get better the longer the game goes on and values inflate, whereas energy issues that Grace needs to fix with M1 will become less and less of an thing as agents powercreep upwards and come with fewer inherent flaws. Waiting for Miyabi is a good call though
6:47 Can I ask what you meant when you said that Lycaon is niche with the addition of Caesar? Does Caesar stun better than him or is the overall utility she provides simply better than his ability to stun?
I'm guessing it's cause Lycaon mainly buffs Ice teams, while Caesar's ATK buff applies to any team regardless of element.
@@SwitchbackCh Ohhhh gotcha gotcha. So would that mean that Lycaon is technically better than Caesar for ice teams because he both stuns better and applies a buff to them, or is Caesar's universal buff even better than his ice buff?
@@dangangalaxy9759 Caesar > lycaon in ice teams, but its less so than other teams
I really really want to get Rina. Even if I end up picking her up before reaching 300, her M1 is still worth getting more imo
I got Koleda before I hit 300, but I got her again when I reached 300. C2 Koleda was my goal and I have it now, she's absolutely amazing with Piper and Lucy. Can practically stunlock most Shiyu bosses for half of the fight.
Ty, finally got 30mln dmg after taking M2 for Soldier 11 ^^
Wait, is this first 300th pulls selection or the next 300th selection? Is it possible to get another 300th pulls selection after already done it once?
this is the first, and most likely, the only selector we will receive in the game.
I already have Grace, Rina and Koleda. I decided to go for the ones I don't have, but I most likely pull for Soldier 11 for a complete fire team unless I get her before I reach 300.
Rina def was on my day one to get list for 2 obvious reasons 😊
But ingot koleda instead and I've come to love her! Now 2 months later with grace and nekomata to my roster I still want my Rina
There’s 2 BIG REASONS why you should get Rina… and it’s not her gameplay….
I've gotten Soldier twice and am only missing Koleda. I really wanted to complete the base roster but with Lighter coming in as my first true waifu pull I might aim for cinemas instead. I'll get her some 50-50. Soldier's M2 is looking tempting for sure!
I'm only missing Nekomata so I think about selecting her for completion or Rina for her M1
Nekomata is... not exactly Qiqi, but probably weakest S-dps by far.
For me it was Soldier 11.
- I needed a real DPS on my account and that's her.
- At 300 pulls, I already had Koleda (C1) from the "standard" banner and Von Lycaon (C0) actually dropped on pull 297, so that took him out of the running.
- Add S11 to Koleda and Ben, and Rocket Boo, and there's my carry team. Fine, it's mono-fire... but it's a lot of fire. :)
**I hate Lucy's gameplay, so I wouldn't know ... but I've heard she's a good match for S11 as well.
If I got a second choice, it would have been Grace.
- I like her gameplay
- I love Belobog.
- Anomaly + Electric is a nice combo.
just got back in to zzz and i got my lucky 50 50 for burnice im all about that personallity, but the video did help ty
I don't have grace but planning to pull for yanagi, should I get rina's m1 or grace just in case I need her in the future?
I would say Rina is better in this case than Grace, since her M1 will directly buff all future Electric DPS Agents/Electric focused teams.
Leak speculation ahead
Yanagi Rina is looking to be an absolute dreamteam. Extending shock means bigger disorders for Yanagi to buff further, and her pen buff will go nicely with Yanagis own alleged pen buff from her stance switching, since Pen gets better the more of it you have. I don't really see Grace every having much value once you've got Yanagi, if my Grace wasn't M2 already I'd grab her for sure.
Glad to see a fellow Soldier 11 enjoyer 🫡 learning to time her basic attacks is super satisfying, plus for me she is superior waifu
I have all but Rina, Koleda, and Lycoan and still need to choose.
Im planning on using Caesar and Lighter. So some are telling me Lighter's ice buff helps with Lycoan here?
other than that I'll aim for Miyabi but she's forever away.
Meta is good and all and this video will likely help some people decide. I really wanted S11 after randomly pulling her engine in the standard banner, but then I got her while wishing for Burnice anyways, fire sisters!
Now I'm kinda torn because I do have wolfy and Rina, I might just go Grace because of waifu reasons and I generally gravitate towards more "niche" playstyles like Geo in Genshin when all the rage is elemental reactions, DoT in HSR when hypercarry and break is "the thing", and I feel Anomaly will eventually become this in ZZZ. It's hot right now, but they'll probably change it up after a few patches... Also, anything that helps me towards that Grace wallpaper! ;)
I'm a ways away from the 300 still, so I'll probably wait til I'm at it to decide.
... Orrr it'll be like HSR and I haven't decided yet. I feel like ZZZ may be easier to pick though, since teams have one less member to have to synergize around.
I got Neko to start, picked up Caesar, lost Burnice 50/50 to Grace (still a good unit), and got Lycaon randomly from Stable Banner. If I had to pick now, I'd probably go for Rina to help Grace out (and hopefully I get Burnice too)
My electric element representation is severely lacking and so my choice goes out to either Grace or Rina, depending on how Yanagi/Harumasa pull prospects go. If I can get either one of them as a focused electric DPS I will likely go with Rina, but I honestly may go with Rina anyway even if I don't, since I have put horizontal investment into Anton despite the rotation he plays without Grace being a little uncomfortable. if I happen upon one or the other before the 300 pick, the choice goes the other way, and in the case I get both, then I may just get Solder 11 to have all of the Standard S-ranks. Koleda Mindscape would be kinda nice though.
pick soldier… pick her… do it… (i’m giving horrible advice)
@@flossinonyou for some reason i feel big urge to whale on standard banner for m6 soldier 11 now
I’m either picking who I don’t have or just another of my highest leveled unit.
I’ve gotten quite lucky with my pulls and have managed to get Lycaon, Soldier 11, and Rina from the standard banner. I’m super conflicted on whether to get Grace or Koleda when I eventually get the chance.
Grace is a good anomaly unit, but I want Koleda because I like her design and wanna pair her with Ben.
Video title promised "best agent to pick" but ends delivering "pull what you like." I am sad.
During Rina’s portion, I specified that i believe she’s the best way to go in terms of the current game state. Being able to buff Yanagi seems insane, and her M1 helps with that a ton. Thanks for watching!
U r wrong
He definitely said to pick s11
Soldier 11.Question answered successfully.
1 year later, i think all factions gonna have at least 8+ members when the story expands. That'd be awesome tho
Tbh i don’t think any of them going to last for long, just pick whoever you like. Full mindscape A ranks are better than most of them except for the stunners.
Rina is decent, but everytime you needed a grouper Nicole is instantly better than her. If they released an actual limited S rank support, i think she’ll be benched permanently except for speedrunning purposes. Nekomata, there are 3 other physical dps in A ranks that’s basically on par with her. The only thing Soldier 11 has going for her is that she’s the only usable fire dps except for Burnice currently.
Pick soldier 11 b4 watching this vid. Glad i made a good decision!!
I’m just curious in the future it will change the character or will stay like this forever cuz i have them all except kholeda
I believe these 6 Agents will be the only ones you can choose from.
They may add standard S Ranks in the future (very unlikely) but i don’t think you’ll be able to use the 300 pulls on them
I picked grace after 300 pulls and as a new gacha player I used up a decent amount of polychrome on standard banner(because I was noob) but still got Jane, Qingyi and Burnice and almost all standard characters, just koleda is remaining
Wtf why would you use on standard knowing limited banners exist even if you were noob
@@revo5124 umm I just didn't knew that polychrome was so limited resources and standard banner looked attractive as I could select a character after 300 pulls also grace looked more attractive to me than Ellen 😜, but also I sort of feel bad for not getting her 🥲
@@shivamrawat3719Account bricked 💀
I chose lycon. But that was before all of these other characters came out at the time he was by far the best stunner. He's still really good now once you invest in him especially The s that he gets with his special and certain other moves makes him still viable
I'll get Grace (I have Rina, Wolfy & Nekomata)
Currently 213 pulls in. My stable node luck has been very appreciated. As of now, I have Grace, Koleda, Nekomata, and Lycaon. I have a tough 50/50 to choose between, Soldier 11 would be huge for any fire teams I may want to build in the future, but Rina's Support and Pen% buffs are super powerful. Tough choices indeed.
If i don't "lose" my Yanagi 50/50 to her, im picking Soldier, if i do, im picking Lycaon.
I don't have Koleda, but will get Lighter if i don't get Yanagi.
7:44 Nah Nah bro what about YOU 🫵 that wasa great breakdown of them and all but you didn't answered the question. Who's the BEST agent to choose in Zenless ?
Exactly
The first 5 star on the standard banner was Rina, the second was...
Also Rina
I still haven't pulled on the standard banner, I think I have 178 pulls. I'll choose who I don't have. I have Grace and Soldier 11. Also is Koleda the worst?
in terms of value and her comparison with other Stunners/Defense Agents, yes she’s the ‘worst’ option. However if your objective is stunning enemies fast, she is no doubt the best Agent out of all of them to do this.
@@flossinonyou ya I get it, basically she's not Qiqi level bad
If you collected everyone already, Rina M1 is fire
i couldn’t agree more
I have to choose between rina, koleda, lykaon. What should i pick? I only have anby as stunning agent.
Since Anby is your only Stunner, you should pick the better out of the two Stunners, which is Lycaon.
Koleda is great at stunning fast, but Lycaon provides more ultility compared to Koleda. He will also be great when Miyabi releases.
I will pick either grace or Lycaon, since i don't have them yet. grace would make a new team with Burnice and my M1 Rina. Lycaon would be an upgrade from my Anby on my Ellen team. Either way i would only need to build them and not a new team around them. Before i get the 300 though, i still have a guaranteed S-rank. So, I it will depend on if I get either of them then, or if I am more interested in pulling lighter than Lycaon.
Should i do mono ice with miyabi? I have m6 soukako with her weapon, so should i pick lycaon?
If Lighter isn’t on your mind and you know you will play Miyabi a lot, Lycaon would be a solid pickup.
S11 main here, Im pulling Koleda😂😫
with the upcoming addition of Miyabi I'd really like to make a full ice team as my first synergiesed team. Already have t2 Soukaku, still couldn't manage to pull Lycaon from the basic master tapes tho unfortionately.
I'm only missing out Lycoan and Rina. Tempted to go for the elegant wolf 🐺
definitely not a single hint of bias within this video at all.
Definitely picking Rina to pair up with my Yanagi.
Rinaaaa 100%, im a certified Anomaly enjoyer since day 1 with Piper and a Jane + Burnice + Yanagi ( soon ) main so yeah the maid is a must
All I heard this video was "pick soldier 11" and so, my decision has been made.
It kinda sucks that they didn’t make an ether S rank for the base roster
I agree. Ether is by far my favorite element in the game. Hopefully more come out soon
@ I want an ether stunner for Zhu Yuan so bad
I lack electric agents, I was actually thinking about Grace because I'm probably skipping the upcoming patch... However, now that I have Caesar and would like to use her with Ellen, Lycaon is a must for that team to work.
going for M2 Rina when i get mine, she was my first S rank and the second as well (lost 50/50 for Caesar), and i really like how Anby plays so im looking to build a Mono Electric team so M6 would be great lol
How did you guys reach 300 pulls there? I'm playing since zhu yuan and im at 180
i haven’t reached it yet, but i’m definitely getting close to 300 now.
I started the same but I am at 260-ish now. You shoul be baove 200 as well if you always do the events and buy all the pulls monthly
@@RadioRentalx I'm so upset, im always doing everything to get all the pulls and polychromes. A lot of people started talking about the 300 milestone recently and im anxious thinking that i lost a 100 free pulls code sonwhere cause no way everyone is close to 300
I am at 250 ish pulls
@@D3zhumer ehhh dont worry to much if you always do your Shiyu deffense, Hollow Zero, and buy the monthly i think nothing the worry about. if people really have much closer to 300 pull its either they using the monochrome, or build all the character which is quite taken alot of resource for 3 standar pull each character. nothing to be stress
Tbh I’m missing Rina, Lycaon, and Koleda, so if I do get to that, I’ll probably pick Koleda or Lycaon, because having Anby as the only stun is kind of annoying. If I didn’t have that issue, I’d probably pick Rina.
Skipped all limited anomaly characters, so definetly choosing Grace to support a future disorder team that intrest me :)
I mean, considering I have all but Koleda, even before reaching 300 summons, I think my choice speaks for itself lol
I keep hearing really good things about rina and I might get her even if miyabi doesn’t pair with her
Fact: You don´t even need to use the Ex Special with Rina to apply her buff, just attack and switch
Yep. Her ex is just great for applying buff and shock/stun.
I'm personally stuck between M1 Lycaon (Certified Lycaon main) or Rina in terms of long-term value. I'm planning on most likely pulling for Miyabi, depending on how fun her kit is and how much it suits my playstyle. If not, I'll probably save up for Ellen Joe's rerun or another future character im interested in!
I’m probs gonna hit the selector next month and I’m torn between Lycaon M6 and Rina M1 - one is super versatile giving a big buff and quality of life which can fit well into shock/ disorder teams and gains value the more defence enemies get so it’s likely to be the agent that ages better; the other makes a stunner a dps early enough into the game he could actually hold his own with other M0 (particularly standard) dps - and the role consolidation is super nice for fitting an extra support or working as a subdps in say an anomaly team.
wow 6 copies of Lycaon already? you’re a trooper
@@flossinonyou well obvs I couldn’t control it with him being a standard agent so I can’t really take credit as a lycaon main or anything but I am trying to put him to good use after seeing him at the vast majority of my losses/ standard banner s ranks
I'm almost at the 300 pulls mark and I have 3 of the 6 already. all that's left is nekomata s11 and Rina. so s11 or Rina (I got Jane lmao) And its tough to choose because I love Grace and Rina helps her but s11 is also pretty good too.
Lycaon is the only standard 5-star I don’t have (I have lost 3/4 50/50s…), but that Rina M1 looks REALLY nice.
Me who already chose Lycaon during Qingyi's Banner: Interesting...
Ah but forreal Rina for me was my first S Rank off standard. Overtime I have obtained another copy of Rina and obtained another copy of Lycaon on my birthday a few weeks ago.
I just want Rina's Signiture at this point lol
I’m torn. I’m running a Neko/Caesar/Nicole team rn. Neko’s M1 would be tremendously helpful, and by the time I reach 180 pulls on standard I’ll have enough to buy her weapon from the shop.
However, I actually really like Soldier 11’s playstyle and she could be a good future investment for when we get more Obol agents.
I also really like Lycaon’s playstyle-not that I want to choose him for M1 BUT rather that having another Victoria Housekeeping unit would give me more chance to play him since I skipped Ellen (and I like Anton’s playstyle way more than Corin’s if we’re considering who my third on the team would be). I also already have her signature weapon, just waiting to be used.
TL;DR: I’m stuck between Neko’s M1, Soldier, and Rina rn.
i've been seen a corin/qingyi/rina burst and i must say having a short buff is likely be a "burst strategy" rather than a simple debuff (her w-engine also last a few secs) and i have rina so the logistic choice would be her for her M1 but im gonna skip lighter and i have ellen (and also want to free up qingyi from my ellen team) so im gravitating towards lycaon oh and also his engine spooked me so yeah...
If you don't have many stunners, Lycacon or Koleda are probably your best bet. Lycacon is probably worth more on average if you have a Corrin, as it allows you to run Sokkaku, Lycacon, Corrin as a decent stun team. Koleda is super helpful if you have Soldier 11, but is otherwise just an alternate elemental stun option to Anby.
I had to choose between Lycaon and Soldier 11. Went with S-11 cause I wanted a fire team (s-11, koleda, and Lucy)
No regrets
I went with Grace when hit my 300. That's because I got Lycaon before got to that number. He was going to be my original pick.
Im gonna pull for lighter and he will become my main stunner, i main anton, ellen and kinda soldier 11 so i think he will be the best but now idk if i wanna choose Rina or lycaon...
Imma go with koleda, I only know when you add Ben and koleda, there will be diffrance, not talking about animation but the effects of damage
definitely gonna take Soilder's M3 (or M4 if she comes sooner) no matter what :)
The only two characters I haven’t gotten are the two sisters of belobog industries. I’ve gotten the other 4 already, but I will try to pull those 2 anyway. I have a certain principle of “No man or teammate left behind”.
Haven’t gotten to 300 pulls yet since I’ve been focusing on exclusive banners. But I think I want nekomata to make a good physical team with anby and piper since I already have Burnice.
I'm 30 wishes away from 300, certainly that's still around two months but I'm early debating between S1 Lycaon or S0 Soldier 11, I have everyone else luckily and with my Burnice with Signature and C6 Lucy, I debate the need of more fire
I’m planning on choosing the flat cat, not only is she cute, she is also funny (I also enjoy her play style)
Only missing Grace and Koleda from 225 standard pulls and losing all but 1 50/50 on exclusives, with the only dupe being a Neko (who my game seems to like since I also got her signature from standard)
Leaning towards M1 Rina over collection completion tbh.
7:24 & 8:08 are the best suggestion ever
I agree!
my ranking:
1. Rina (fits in the most teams)
2. Lycaon (if you have Ellen) if not, Soldier 11
3. Grace (different enough from other anomaly)
4.Koleda (slow, but useful)
5. Nekomata
I first got Soldier, then her engine a few pulls later. I then got Lycaon when I lost my Jane's 50-50. I then got Grace on a double S with Jane. I then lost my Ceasar 50-50 to Nekomata. At that point I was close to hard pity AND my 300th pull. I went into singles until I got to 300. Selected RIna. I had enough tapes for another few pulls and got Koleda! Ended up getting the two I was missing almost back to back. My luck has run out.
I pick soldier because fun as well as when her faction comes out she will get a lot better
I was forced to make an electric team in order to clear shiyu defense. I say forced because while pulling for Cáesar I got 6 copies of Anton so better put them to use. I am pulling for Rina whenever possible, and even tho I already have got Lycaon, Lighter is coming home. Also, I'm waiting for Ellen to return since I wasn't around when her banner was up, and Rina/Lighter would make a great team with her. I Hope she comes after miyabi
If I picked today my account would be most improved with Soldier 11. However despite playing since day 1 I'm still 100 pulls away and will no doubt have more of my needs fulfilled by the time I reach 300. By the time I get to the 300 mark everyone will have been powercrept and the decision will be of little weight.
i just pick whatever i don't have, since i can clear any game content with my teams now.
maybe i'll use mine if already completed all standard but one, but sadly i need to lose 50:50 everytime and hoping get the right char (which is takes a lot of time) lmao
but if i have to pick now, lycaon > s11 > grace
Started playing cuz Burnice but lost 50/50 with soldier 11, at first, I never used her but then I started to try her, and maybe is one of my favorite characters, also now I have armpit fetish so... yeah 11 is the best option
well i got grace howard, soldier 11 and nekomata via draw while lycaon i claimed him after the full 300 pulls. so i havent gotten Rina and koleda
Will pick up Lycaon for Elen team
I'm a new player and got nekomata, since I've got used to m0 neko, m6 anby, m1 nicole. still confused if i should pick neko or rina cause I got yanagi recently.
edit : i mean, is nekomata and her gang still good on higher interknot? I'm currently on interknot 35.
@@LucyMaymake To your first question: If you’re planning on using Neko mats long term, her M1 gives a significant DMG boost to her when enemies are stunned. However, if you want to move on and build another team for Yanagi, Rina is hands down the best choice for you
To your second question: Is nekomata viable later on? Short answer is yes. These characters will always be good as long as you know how to operate your team. Soldier 11 is my favorite character, and while she isn’t the most viable, she still clears content easily. It’s all about what direction you want to go. If you like Nekomata, you should invest. You’ll have more fun playing the game that way
@@flossinonyou thankyou very much for you advice, I think I'm gonna main nekomata. I like how agile she is in a combat, and I still learning battle mechanics because I still missed the chains sometimes.
I love cunning hares so much, their chemistry as a comedy agency in the story. especially nicole, she has Jessie team rocket energy from pokemon.
Im just taking my sweet time pulling on the standard banner, my initial goal was to Lycaon once I reach 300 but now, it has changed bec I pulled Koleda in my first 10 standard pull, got an M6 Lucy and pulled Burnice on the limited banner. I have yet to pull a decent S Rank DPS agent for my team with the exception of Nekomata. Basically, I just roll with whatever RNG has for me and I just have to look up on potential synergy and experiment
So far, the game has blessed me with a Fire Team that helped me get through the content, caught up to CHapter 4 and managed to do farming quick. Now, Im saving up for Lighter and considered skipping Yanagi. Im thinking and wondering if I could build a team with two Stunner agents: Lighter (DPS build if that may work) and Lycaon + Soukaku/Lucy