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Do not be surprised if Billy Mitchell speaks about you to a judge : You publicly defaming him in your videos like the one of " Red joystick of destiny " where you are stating that he spent the rest of the 3 hours of deposition lying about other things than the stick ! You can't claim people are lying about everything like that ! It's unethical, you have to point out anything that is wrong and not globalize otherwise you make yourself guilty of defaming ! Not to mention you call him a pathological liar, even if this man lied a lot this kind of statement is not publicly appropriate you have no rights to declare that.
It's the other way around. Billy doesn't constantly make videos about Karl. I only know who Karl Jobst is because of the lawsuit, Billy is the most famous Arcade gamer of all time
@@Justinicus24 once your generation dies out, Silly Bitchell will only be remembered for his frivolous lawsuits, temper tantrums, shitty hairstyle, and tacky ties
“They’re working together to ruin my reputation. My proof? They’re both talking about the awful things about me and their terrible stories match.” Good job Billy, that’ll work
This *has* to go to court. It will be epic (I don't use this word lightly) if it becomes a freaking court ruling that Billy Mitchell is in fact a cheater and a man-child.
@@ccateni28 Doesn't necessarily prove anything, but it's very likely not Billy Mitchell is busy suing people for telling everyone he's a giant cheater and lied for years
@@LightsOfElberfeldguy seems to give a shit more about his reputation than anything, which is basically rock bottom with no hope of recovering lol Also our boy here raised 200k, he’s fine lmao
"Your honor, the defendant Jobst referred to my client as a "man-child". This is clearly a defamation of the fact that my client, a male in his last 50s, does not meet the definition of a child. We submit to the court the following VHS of his birth in 1965" *submits a scratchy tape with visible MAME artifacts*
@@joetrollson "We also have the expert testimony of Todd Rogers who will certify that, despite being less than a year old and in another state, he personally witnessed the birth and can't prove that he _didn't_ see a girder finger at the live viewing"
The funny thing is people like, people who don't keep tabs on world records and all that stuff wouldn't even have known that Billy was a cheater if he just took the L from the beginning. He ensured that thousands of people outside of the loop knew he cheated.
Honestly, I forgot about him until this video popped up. When I think cheater, I think about when Dream had to be disproven by countless mathematical experts, admitted to cheating, and people (mostly children) still follow them regardless. Mitchell's case is an odd one. Despite the overwhelming evidence against him and his records, he still refuses to accept that maybe his records were illegitimate. It's one thing to cheat and blatantly lie about it, but dedicating years of your life to a legal battle to uphold the lie is something else. If they're this petty in video games, I can't imagine what his personality is like.
Until the King of Kong documentary, I'd never even heard of Billy Michell. After watching it, I still didn't really know who the hell this guy is, or why I should care. And I'd imagine that's true of a very large number of people. Billy just can't accept that his claimed feats just don't matter.
I love how patient Karl was in his videos about Billy Mitchell at the start but now he's grown so tired of his shit he's just essentially like "look at this fucking clown" lol
@mattd1466 Karl's atty should start putting that in the filings: Milly Bitchell - herein referred to as Fking a-- clown........(insert statement or motion here) lol.
In the beginning, karl was afraid of getting sued by billy himself, once billy came out and sued him anyway, karl is not holding back and we are here for it :p.
I can imagine Karl scripting his first video and going "No, I can't say this, it's too mean". But after researching the guy a couple of times he realized anything you can say about him is nice, because there are no words to actually describe how much of a clown he is
It's Thursday 5:34PM here in the UK and I have not been to bed at all. Woke up On Wednesday 9:15AM and been awake since. BILLY that's a real gamers life...
This is like the final boss that has multiple health bars, but you didn't know that, so you spent 3 hours fighting it and got excited when you thought it died but then the next health bar pops up.
You confuse artificial, computer generated graphics that are mostly free (and fiction!) with actual REAL MONEY that lawyers and court cases cost. So you should think about if your "pops up" description isn't a little bit inappropriate here? On the other hand, I like your joke:) ... If I think that the game you are talking about is a very bad game and that the word "boss" is just a random chosen word and has no meaning, when describing Billy:)
Dwayne Richard made that flick a decade ago; go watch it, there’s pictures of TG staff with Bill Bastable and his perfect pacman score from 1987 yet they claim THAT didn’t happen either 😂
"vampire cowboy"... both really strong and basicly hilariously laughable things, but he mutated to mini version of both, so he kinda survived since none of the side is too strong to kill him.
The worst thing is he is balding in the middle. If he had his hair cut shorter, it may look thicker and better. He has so much money to sue, he should get a hair transplant or buy Rogaine.
You just know Billy refreshes Karl's UA-cam page constantly for a video about himself and watches it seething. Every jab Karl makes towards him is so much funnier knowing full well he is going to watch it without a doubt
For sure. Karl will also know that Billy is doing that and because of this he puts in extra effort to get him mad. Which I am totally fine with, since I always have a good laugh with those videos.
And probably looks at comments like this as evidence of "damage to his reputation". In which case: Hi, Billy! Please don't sue me; if you do I'll just tell Karl and he'll make more videos about you! 😉
The only thing funnier would be if Mitchell and his lawyers asserted Jobst was up at 3:30 AM because they didn't understand time zones. At first, I thought that's exactly where it was going because that's the type of thing I've come to expect from Mitchell and his legal representation.
even funnier because releasing youtube video's at 3:30 AM AUS time, is like peak time for EU, and good time slot for US videos. SO if anything he should always be awake at that point, as its his full time job. (yes I know about video scheduling)
Also it's not like Karl couldn't have just possibly begun uploading the video before he went to sleep after putting all the information like the title and description in and let it upload itself.
Imagine settling out of court, then going back to the same judge that you told "we're settling" to bitch about how you want to sue again because you didn't like the settlement you agreed to. Does he honestly believe he's not going to be laughed out of whatever office he's going to?
@@Exiled_Raven Do you honestly think Karl would post a joke video about Billy Mitchell? A video spreading blatant lies about Billy while he's being sued by him for defamation? Yes, I considered tat it might be and April Fools bit, but Billy would absolutely use it as ammunition in his suit, even if the next day Karl came out and said it was a prank.
@fumoffu_l that is why Bitchell is 'trying' to make this about "TG is not living up to their end of the settlement" - vs "well we hastily agreed to something that wasn't 100% in MY best interest OR allowed ME to flex MY total win in this case"... Bitchell wants the terms made public so he can further show that "see i came out on the winning side here" - REGARDLESS of the actual terms.
Honestly? If Twin Galaxies had pushed for the trial the first time, they'd not be having this issue now. Yes, it would've been expensive, but this is not, not even slightly, out of character for Billy Bitchell, or anything that should have been unexpected. So they saved money then, and now they're losing money now. Even when this latest nonsense is done... Does anyone think Billy is stopping here? I certainly don't. Twin Galaxies is still stating that they believe Billy is a cheater, and Billy is still banned, and Billy won't let that go. Twin Galaxies can't reinstate his records on the true leaderboard or unban Billy if they want to maintain any credibility, and Billy has made this too much a part of his life to stop until they do. They'll be at odds until Twin Galaxies forces him in front of a judge and gets him legally shut down and shut up. Billy is the type of person who will not stop until made to do so with overwhelming force, settling was only ever going to slow him down.
He will 100% try and submit this as evidence that only appears as text to prove his point. It'll get 3 months further down the line before the clip itself is played and but it will have achieved what Billy wants, to waste everyone's time by giving him the attention he craves.
@@PoyntlesssTo which the other side's lawyer will play the ENTIRE video as evidence for 'better context'. And watch Billy squirm and seethe through the entire thing.
“Your honor, if you simply look at Karl's channel, you can clearly see that his most-viewed videos have NOTHING to do with Mitchell! He is in a perfect position to continue his career without Mitchell's legal hijinks, and this part of the video is obviously in jest!”
The dude he inavertenly killed because of his bullying? Yeah i was annoyed at karl being like this now I'm on board, fuck this dude he's an absolute clown
Sorry, but no, Apollo died because of his own issues and a lot of them were caused by himself. Let's not try to pretend Apollo was a sweetheart. He even tried to put the blame of what he did to himself to people who tried to help him. I wouldn't celebrate it either obviously but let's not act like he was a saint and people online had the blame for it@@artsyscrub3226
Billy Mitchell is just trying to speed run his lawsuits. "Your honor, Karl Jobst was up at 3:33 AM. That's pretty suspicious." "Do you have any other evidence?" "... ... Well, he was up at 3 am... A-and that's suspicious."
So Billy is saying all those moronic child videos on UA-cam about "3AM is very spooky and scary" are legit? Bold strategy cotton, let's see how it works out for him.
Barber: what do you want? Silly: I want to look like I’m constantly wearing a hoodie Barber: say no more. This will require two whole bottles of hairspray a day Silly: *lizard tongue thing*
They will likely settle again, Unless they have grounds to counter-sue Billy for enough funds to cover the costs of a lawyer for TG (likely in the region of tens of thousands of dollars, *at a minimum*) - it will always be more cost effective to settle.
Sometimes when I think about the Billy Mitchell case I tear up. It's so sad to think that something you did decades ago can consume your life like this. I kinda scares me and makes me realize how much life I have left and now matter what is going on I should always be thankful that I'm not living a life like Billy Mitchell. With all of us having a finite amout of time on earth its crazy that you can spend so much of it worrying about and trying to fix the problems you made decades ago. It makes me wonder if im just a few bad decisions and a snap of a finger away from a man in his 60s only focused on the past.
Karl Jobst, an absolute legend. Was wondering where’ve you been man, love seeing your videos, specially the ones abt records broke, cheaters exposed and of course, the Billy Mitchell saga. Keep it legendary, you absolute legend.
Honestly, I think lawsuits are a much more legitimate lifestyle than milking the glory of a video game nobody plays anymore, especially if the glory was fake.
Wait. That's actually scary. Do you think that Karl is in physical danger? With the dystopian hellhole that Australia is, the police would probably give Billy a medal for taking Karl out.
@@DrFrogglePhDKarl knows how to protect himself from the various aussie critters. Billy does not. So the question is, if Billy is stupid enough to try, which critter will get him ?
Nothing to lose? I don't like him as much as the next guy but come on. He owns and operates a chain on restaurants. How do you think he pays for all the stuff he's constantly getting into..
You know what I am unclear on. Even IF Jobst and Twin Galaxies are colluding, well, so what? It's not illegal, it's not immoral, and it doesn't change the outcome of either Jobst vs Mitchell OR Twin Galaxies vs Mitchell. It'd be like if Twin Galaxies turned around and sued Mitchell because he's buddies with Todd Togers and they both got their records put on the same historical database. Don't both the United States AND Australia have have basic rights that allow for the freedom of association? What, does he want both these groups to burrow into some underground bunkers, never to see the light of day again?
Yeah, and Mitchell’s legal team knows it too. I guarantee that every second they have to spend in court representing this clown is filled with constant agony. His lawyers must frequently find themselves wishing for shots of bleach.
My favorite ever quote about Silly Bitchell: "He sued Karl Jobst expecting him to roll over, but didn't realize Jobst lives in Australia and is used to dealing with aggressive venomous pests"
1:44 "Billy is a manchild who can't help himself but winge and complain to the court whenever I talk about him. He's like a toddler who runs and cries to his mommy whenever another kid does something he doesn't like. It's pathetic." I think that summed up the entire story of Billy "Con Man of the Century" Mitchell and also his worth as a person.
Thank Charlie for mentioning you in that billy video he made a year ago it got recommended to me just now and it brought me here didn’t even realize u uploaded
The horse is not only dead, but has been grinded into powder, bones fossilized deep into the earth, wanting to be forgotten, but Billy keeps hitting the spot where that horse corpse once remained.
The best part is that all of this will eat away at him for the rest of his life, and he'll continue to fester and obsess over it until his last breath. A prison of his own doing, built by out of control ego, bullying and narcissism.
I always think, *if* he's that good and Twin Galaxies somehow banned him for the wrong reasons, there's a lot he could still do. Making contents about retro gaming, doing long plays and retro game playthroughs, joining retro game events / podcasts, do a retro gaming travel series to Japan (he does have the money if the piling lawsuits are any indications), just to name a few. Plenty of people succeeded without even having a shot at breaking a world record. Literally, anything is better than this.
@@paulaldo9413 I definitely agree. He was obviously very talented. He misplayed all of this badly. Even after everything, he STILL has fans. If he had come clean and not been so litigious years ago, he would have built a following and been able to capitalize on it. I mean, if people sued everyone because of negative videos and content, the courts would have to be open 24/7/365
Imagine if Billy had spent all this time and energy actually playing Donkey Kong... he might have developed enough skill to have a high score and rightfully be listed!
@@elricdotah The only reason he is banned is because he cheated and spent years doubling down on it. If he had, instead of cheating, actually been pushing his limits, he'd be up there.
It would be something if He's been practicing this whole time and actually does legally smash the high score... And then cuts the mullet. It would throw his complete chaos into complete chaos.
@OzixiThrill Not necessarily. Unlike Todd Togers & his games, Billy IS good at DK. The thing is - he DID spend a ton of time on those games back in the day. He may have simply peaked & wouldn't be able to get any better even with more practice.
@@metzger5850 Ehhh, at his age I think his joints and reaction time might make it hard to peak again? It's a bit harsh and he's not ancient, but even professional E-Sports players have a career of like 1 decade if they're VERY lucky and VERY healthy.
Recently found your channel over catching a speedrun cheater in Minecraft. Thank you for making content and I enjoy how in depth you go. Keep up the good work
It's almost as if Billy Mitchell is doing a meme speedrun where he chooses all of the worst dialogue options. I know it's been said before, but he has to have some sort of humiliation fetish because he's relentlessly pursuing opportunities in which he can make an ass of himself.
this saga would make a great anime: superheroes karl jobst and jace hall team up to defeat a three headed hydra with an american flag tie and a receding hairline, and every time one of the hydra's heads is cut off it grows two new ones and starts waving a lawsuit filing around with its tail
@manoftherainshorts9075 -- I sooooooooooooooo want TG's atty's legal response to this to be something along the lines of "The Plaintiff (Milly Bitchell) is a fking ass clown and is the #1 person responsible for destroying Plaintiff's reputation".
watching regular show and even though someone already pointed it out, billy mitchell and "gbf" are so similar is actually hilarious. he even looks just like him xd
This is FAR from over. After he loses the next case and the case after that, and the case after that, he will eventually sue his lawyers for throwing the cases. Then he will lose that case, then he will appeal, etc. He is a endless joke, Karl. Your career safe.
He's going to continue abusing the court system as long as he has his gaggle of sycophant lawyers and lackeys doing the legal work for free on his behalf. If he was accountable for all of these mounting legal costs on his own, he would've left it alone long by now, but he's essentially spending other people's time and money for his ego since it's not putting him on the financial line. It's disgusting, litigious abuse, and here's to Billy swallowing yet another L after L.
@@allanshpeley4284 Even with anti-SLAPP laws to immediately shut down entities or people with money to stifle someone's lawsuits, sadly the world is still run by money, period. Not that Billy has it himself, it's not his money, but like I pointed out, he's spending other people's money since enough weirdos with law licenses like the blonde Jesus freak from King of Kong will clearly stay overnight at the office for the confirmation he's still Billy's friend.
Look on the bright side, there's an army of sycophants, and Billy is doing the world a favor by draining them of money just so he can continue to be a clownshow for our enjoyment.
@@randyohm3445 Agree, if those people will put that much money in something bad, at least they are wasting into a 50 yrs old cheater that only want to see his name on a leaderboard to feel like he accomplished something in life.
It's always clear in these sorts of matters that the lawyers are hoping the judge is technologically illiterate and will just take their word for it. You see it all the time in cases that involve anything more complicated on a PC than scrolling through Facebook.
It seems like Billy legitimately thought his high scores were going to be fully reinstated, and is embarrassed that he didn't know what the word "historic" meant.
This is one of my favorite internet series as of now. It's like watching a superhero and a supervillain fight over and over every episode in a saturday morning cartoon. Billy is such a legendary super villain that if he was a fictional character he'd probably be one of the classic Disney villains.
"He was up at 3:33 am! That's suspicious!" It's just after 4:00 am where I live. Is Billy going to call me suspicious for having weird sleeping habits too? :V
I've been following the whole saga since even before Karl picked it up, and I eagerly await the day when we struggle to remember Billy Mitchell. Poor guy doesn't seem content to fade into the obscurity that he so rightfully deserves
@@halfsourlizard9319To do that, you're going to have to leave your computer room. Rrrrrun down the hall! ...Then remember you can just watch the movie on your computer.
TG: We will agree to unsealing parts of the settlement agreement. The part Billy wants unsealed as well as these other parts that put in in proper context.
Billy didn't last 2 months before suing Twin Galaxies again lol
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Look another upload from the Billy Mitchell’s video channel. Get a job karl
Didn't someone reach out to you on Twitter a while back about a problem with geologie? I hope it got taken care of.
Hey man, did you see that American flag tie though. He's fighting for his right to being number one in the 1990s so he'll never give up 😂
Do not be surprised if Billy Mitchell speaks about you to a judge : You publicly defaming him in your videos like the one of " Red joystick of destiny " where you are stating that he spent the rest of the 3 hours of deposition lying about other things than the stick !
You can't claim people are lying about everything like that ! It's unethical, you have to point out anything that is wrong and not globalize otherwise you make yourself guilty of defaming !
Not to mention you call him a pathological liar, even if this man lied a lot this kind of statement is not publicly appropriate you have no rights to declare that.
Love your uploads, Karl!
Karl doesn't ever have to worry about losing his house. He lives rent-free in Mitchell's head.
It's the other way around. Billy doesn't constantly make videos about Karl. I only know who Karl Jobst is because of the lawsuit, Billy is the most famous Arcade gamer of all time
@Justinicus24 I wish youtube still showed down votes
@@Justinicus24 I think some people like pewdiepie, ninja, markiplier ... have a problem with the "most famous gamer" of all time auahauahauahauahsa
@@Justinicus24 most famous fraudster of all time. Ftfy
@@Justinicus24 once your generation dies out, Silly Bitchell will only be remembered for his frivolous lawsuits, temper tantrums, shitty hairstyle, and tacky ties
Billy is the greatest April Fools joke ever told
Oh, he was the original.
not april 1st but ong
@@bossowl33 you do realize that time zones exist lol
@@bossowl33it is 1st of April in the eastern half of the world it’s only not in the United States at the time of my comment
@@bossowl33 It's April 1st where Karl is. And me.
“They’re working together to ruin my reputation. My proof? They’re both talking about the awful things about me and their terrible stories match.”
Good job Billy, that’ll work
🤣🤣🤣
This *has* to go to court. It will be epic (I don't use this word lightly) if it becomes a freaking court ruling that Billy Mitchell is in fact a cheater and a man-child.
That's a BOLD STRATEGY cotton , let's see if it pays off.
Not even five seconds in and Karl hits him with “Con Man of the Century”, you absolute legend
Lol
LMAO so true tho
He finna get a third lawsuit lmao
He seems to have gone out of his way to throw shade on Bitchell at every opportunity in this video.
I saw your comment, assumed you were exaggerating, apparently you weren't. Not dissapointed either
Props to the Patreon Guy who named himself "Billy Mitchell" and is now forever in the Credits of this Video.
According to some people the real Billy Mitchell is signed up to keep tabs on Karl.
But obviously no way to actually know.
@meneldal You could see the person's profile in question and the email.
@@ccateni28
Doesn't necessarily prove anything, but it's very likely not Billy Mitchell is busy suing people for telling everyone he's a giant cheater and lied for years
Thanks for pointing that out. That's gold.
@@ccateni28 Like people are truthful on the internet?
At this point, we have to thank Billy that he is destroying his reputation and bank account for our entertainment
Karl's been begging for legal fee donations so I'm not sure Billy is the one losing here. He's a millionaire so he can afford to bankrupt ass holes.
@@LightsOfElberfeldguy seems to give a shit more about his reputation than anything, which is basically rock bottom with no hope of recovering lol
Also our boy here raised 200k, he’s fine lmao
Billy is this your alt account?@@LightsOfElberfeld
legend says if you say billy mitchell 3 times in a video, he'll appear in your mailbox in a form of lawsuit
😂😂😂
Billy Mitchell, Billy Mitchell, milly bitchell
"Your honor, the defendant Jobst referred to my client as a "man-child". This is clearly a defamation of the fact that my client, a male in his last 50s, does not meet the definition of a child. We submit to the court the following VHS of his birth in 1965" *submits a scratchy tape with visible MAME artifacts*
But VHS wasn't around in '65! Billy faked his own birth!
Made me lol. :D
I'm an expert and those are not MAME artifacts but VHS artifacts magically mimicing MAME ones.
@@joetrollson "We also have the expert testimony of Todd Rogers who will certify that, despite being less than a year old and in another state, he personally witnessed the birth and can't prove that he _didn't_ see a girder finger at the live viewing"
Well, @@misturfixit45 , being such a pillar of the community, Mr. Togers' testimony must be nothing but the truth.
Mitchell needs to use half his legal budget on a therapist instead of lawyers.
I don’t think any therapist can help Billy at this point
At this point, his legal budget must be funded solely by an infinite money debit card.
There is no cure for this type of Narcissism, but I do agree that he should at least try something.
I wonder if a psychiatrist will find him crazy and condemn him to a padded cell.
All good, he have seen a priest lol
I love this clips with Karl fight against Billy, "The absolute legend" vs "The videogame player of the century"
videogame player of the 20th century, con man of the 21st.
It's amazing how someone can be a double legend lol
The funny thing is people like, people who don't keep tabs on world records and all that stuff wouldn't even have known that Billy was a cheater if he just took the L from the beginning. He ensured that thousands of people outside of the loop knew he cheated.
Streissand effect demonstrated perfectly
Honestly, I forgot about him until this video popped up.
When I think cheater, I think about when Dream had to be disproven by countless mathematical experts, admitted to cheating, and people (mostly children) still follow them regardless.
Mitchell's case is an odd one. Despite the overwhelming evidence against him and his records, he still refuses to accept that maybe his records were illegitimate.
It's one thing to cheat and blatantly lie about it, but dedicating years of your life to a legal battle to uphold the lie is something else.
If they're this petty in video games, I can't imagine what his personality is like.
Until the King of Kong documentary, I'd never even heard of Billy Michell. After watching it, I still didn't really know who the hell this guy is, or why I should care. And I'd imagine that's true of a very large number of people. Billy just can't accept that his claimed feats just don't matter.
i can't explain billy's insanity and at some point someone has to ask: does he honestly thinks he's done nothing wrong?
I love how patient Karl was in his videos about Billy Mitchell at the start but now he's grown so tired of his shit he's just essentially like "look at this fucking clown" lol
The best part of all this has to be the only reason any of this is happening is cause of Billy himself
@mattd1466 Karl's atty should start putting that in the filings: Milly Bitchell - herein referred to as Fking a-- clown........(insert statement or motion here) lol.
In the beginning, karl was afraid of getting sued by billy himself, once billy came out and sued him anyway, karl is not holding back and we are here for it :p.
I can imagine Karl scripting his first video and going "No, I can't say this, it's too mean". But after researching the guy a couple of times he realized anything you can say about him is nice, because there are no words to actually describe how much of a clown he is
Yeah, the content has really changed over the years as Karl has gotten more and more angry at his situation
Mitchell: No one can be up at 3:30am.
Gamers around the world: WTF?
Proof he's not a real gamer right there.
was up till 5am can confirm, now I need at least 3 pots of coffee.
Exactly! Real gamers don’t get sleep!
It's Thursday 5:34PM here in the UK and I have not been to bed at all. Woke up On Wednesday 9:15AM and been awake since. BILLY that's a real gamers life...
Home gamers can be up at 3:30, but arcade gamers can't.
@@supermariogaxy3356 I still go to the arcades and I can stay up past 3:30 am. What are you talking about?
This is like the final boss that has multiple health bars, but you didn't know that, so you spent 3 hours fighting it and got excited when you thought it died but then the next health bar pops up.
I wonder if anyone has had the opposite experience?
[Additional health bar appears]
"YES! THERE'S MORE PAIN TO GIVE YOU!!!"
You will never kill bellendamos 🤦♂️
Like in Kingdom Hearts or Kazama in Tekken 8.
Second phase is usually better so fingers crossed
You confuse artificial, computer generated graphics that are mostly free (and fiction!) with actual REAL MONEY that lawyers and court cases cost. So you should think about if your "pops up" description isn't a little bit inappropriate here?
On the other hand, I like your joke:) ... If I think that the game you are talking about is a very bad game and that the word "boss" is just a random chosen word and has no meaning, when describing Billy:)
Mr Mitchell showing how old he is with talk along the lines of, "A gamer awake at 3 in the morning? Impossible!"
Me, watching this video at 4am
I can't imagine getting defensive about this. Fragile lot.
once the Atari 2600 entered our home in 1980 there was no more night or day or hours hahaha
I never sleep till 5 AM
The next doc about him should be called: King Of Cons.
He looks like a vampire magician that didn't fully turn.
Dwayne Richard made that flick a decade ago; go watch it, there’s pictures of TG staff with Bill Bastable and his perfect pacman score from 1987 yet they claim THAT didn’t happen either 😂
"vampire cowboy"... both really strong and basicly hilariously laughable things, but he mutated to mini version of both, so he kinda survived since none of the side is too strong to kill him.
After all these years I'm surprised that Billy Mitchell has never sued his Hairstylist.
Every single time I see him I can't get over that absolutely batshit hair style lmao
He thinks he looks good.
The worst thing is he is balding in the middle. If he had his hair cut shorter, it may look thicker and better. He has so much money to sue, he should get a hair transplant or buy Rogaine.
He does his own hair no doubt
@@SteveMacSticky Then he should definitely sue his stylist.
You just know Billy refreshes Karl's UA-cam page constantly for a video about himself and watches it seething. Every jab Karl makes towards him is so much funnier knowing full well he is going to watch it without a doubt
I wouldn't be surprised if Billy is subscribed.
@@SvanTowerMan oh he's got notifications turned "on" & everything
For sure. Karl will also know that Billy is doing that and because of this he puts in extra effort to get him mad. Which I am totally fine with, since I always have a good laugh with those videos.
And probably looks at comments like this as evidence of "damage to his reputation". In which case: Hi, Billy! Please don't sue me; if you do I'll just tell Karl and he'll make more videos about you! 😉
This exactly. The real joy of these videos is imagining Billy's reaction to them. It never fails to make me laugh.
"Billy Mitchell always has a *plan." *The plan being to sue as often and as soon as possible
The double edged self deprecating humor also roasting Billy Mitchell in the intro is legendary
The only thing funnier would be if Mitchell and his lawyers asserted Jobst was up at 3:30 AM because they didn't understand time zones. At first, I thought that's exactly where it was going because that's the type of thing I've come to expect from Mitchell and his legal representation.
The longer this goes on the more Billy makes himself look like an idiot
even funnier because releasing youtube video's at 3:30 AM AUS time, is like peak time for EU, and good time slot for US videos. SO if anything he should always be awake at that point, as its his full time job. (yes I know about video scheduling)
Pretty sure ChatGPT helped them out with not making that mistake 😂
Yeah u thought this at first too. 😂
Also it's not like Karl couldn't have just possibly begun uploading the video before he went to sleep after putting all the information like the title and description in and let it upload itself.
Imagine settling out of court, then going back to the same judge that you told "we're settling" to bitch about how you want to sue again because you didn't like the settlement you agreed to.
Does he honestly believe he's not going to be laughed out of whatever office he's going to?
Well, this is the American legal system we're talking about here. I wouldn't count on sanity too much.
Karl got you good with this one :D FOOLS DAY. Never believe things on the interwebs when it's close to or already 1st in some countries!!
Actually I think he's bitching about TG didn't carry out the settlement promised.
@@Exiled_Raven
Do you honestly think Karl would post a joke video about Billy Mitchell? A video spreading blatant lies about Billy while he's being sued by him for defamation? Yes, I considered tat it might be and April Fools bit, but Billy would absolutely use it as ammunition in his suit, even if the next day Karl came out and said it was a prank.
@fumoffu_l that is why Bitchell is 'trying' to make this about "TG is not living up to their end of the settlement" - vs "well we hastily agreed to something that wasn't 100% in MY best interest OR allowed ME to flex MY total win in this case"...
Bitchell wants the terms made public so he can further show that "see i came out on the winning side here" - REGARDLESS of the actual terms.
Can't get enough of Karl sarcasm during the intro😂
Honestly? If Twin Galaxies had pushed for the trial the first time, they'd not be having this issue now. Yes, it would've been expensive, but this is not, not even slightly, out of character for Billy Bitchell, or anything that should have been unexpected. So they saved money then, and now they're losing money now. Even when this latest nonsense is done... Does anyone think Billy is stopping here? I certainly don't. Twin Galaxies is still stating that they believe Billy is a cheater, and Billy is still banned, and Billy won't let that go.
Twin Galaxies can't reinstate his records on the true leaderboard or unban Billy if they want to maintain any credibility, and Billy has made this too much a part of his life to stop until they do. They'll be at odds until Twin Galaxies forces him in front of a judge and gets him legally shut down and shut up. Billy is the type of person who will not stop until made to do so with overwhelming force, settling was only ever going to slow him down.
I love that Billy will most definitely watch this and believe the sarcastic "what will i make videos about now" bit is completely genuine
He will 100% try and submit this as evidence that only appears as text to prove his point.
It'll get 3 months further down the line before the clip itself is played and but it will have achieved what Billy wants, to waste everyone's time by giving him the attention he craves.
@@PoyntlesssTo which the other side's lawyer will play the ENTIRE video as evidence for 'better context'. And watch Billy squirm and seethe through the entire thing.
“Your honor, if you simply look at Karl's channel, you can clearly see that his most-viewed videos have NOTHING to do with Mitchell! He is in a perfect position to continue his career without Mitchell's legal hijinks, and this part of the video is obviously in jest!”
Don't forget. Billy Mitchell celebrated after Apollo's death. He's a deplorable human being. This is not just about videogame scores.
Yea, that kind of reaction is sick to the core.
The dude he inavertenly killed because of his bullying? Yeah i was annoyed at karl being like this now I'm on board, fuck this dude he's an absolute clown
Correction: Fake videogame scores.
Video game cheater of the century@@capragor1439
Sorry, but no, Apollo died because of his own issues and a lot of them were caused by himself. Let's not try to pretend Apollo was a sweetheart. He even tried to put the blame of what he did to himself to people who tried to help him. I wouldn't celebrate it either obviously but let's not act like he was a saint and people online had the blame for it@@artsyscrub3226
I imagine every time Karl makes a video on Billy, his lawyers stress the fuck out
I just rewatched all of your Billy Mitchell videos this weekend, and it's a magnum opus! I've never even played a video game, yet I love your content.
Billy Mitchell is just trying to speed run his lawsuits.
"Your honor, Karl Jobst was up at 3:33 AM. That's pretty suspicious."
"Do you have any other evidence?"
"... ... Well, he was up at 3 am... A-and that's suspicious."
I like where you're going with this. Galaxy Brain Lawsuit Speedrunning.
Maybe someone should give him a Defendant of the Century Award.
It's 3:51 AM here... I'm suspicious :o
I saw this comment before I watched the video and I assumed it was a joke.
Somehow Billy continues to stoop below my lowest expectations
EU ppl unite!!
So Billy is saying all those moronic child videos on UA-cam about "3AM is very spooky and scary" are legit?
Bold strategy cotton, let's see how it works out for him.
"Somehow Billy Mitchell has returned" - Twin Galaxies lawyers... probably
Need to eliminate his "respawn" location in the source code.
“I am all of the cheaters!” - Billy Mitchell, probably
Dead meme is dead.
No one's ever really gone.
@@watcherofwatchers cry some more about it
do the courts not get pissed when some goof wastes their time like this?
Barber: what do you want?
Silly: I want to look like I’m constantly wearing a hoodie
Barber: say no more. This will require two whole bottles of hairspray a day
Silly: *lizard tongue thing*
Once seen.....never unseen...
Be careful with those jokes, man… Billy might sue you for that!
Ahhhhh I can't unsee it!!
Thank you, I was thinking that the whole time
he got that yeeyee ass lego hair frfr
Now twin galaxies knows not to settle because Billy Shitchell will just try to get a mile when he gets an inch.
They will likely settle again, Unless they have grounds to counter-sue Billy for enough funds to cover the costs of a lawyer for TG (likely in the region of tens of thousands of dollars, *at a minimum*) - it will always be more cost effective to settle.
Be careful, Billy might try sue ya
I thought what happened the first time was they ran out of money.
I prefer ‘Silly Bitchell’ but whatever floats your goat!
He'll sue ya,
He'll take all ya money
He'll sue ya
Even ya even look at him funny 😂
Sometimes when I think about the Billy Mitchell case I tear up. It's so sad to think that something you did decades ago can consume your life like this. I kinda scares me and makes me realize how much life I have left and now matter what is going on I should always be thankful that I'm not living a life like Billy Mitchell. With all of us having a finite amout of time on earth its crazy that you can spend so much of it worrying about and trying to fix the problems you made decades ago. It makes me wonder if im just a few bad decisions and a snap of a finger away from a man in his 60s only focused on the past.
You are only a finger snap away from that which you fear
Karl Jobst, an absolute legend. Was wondering where’ve you been man, love seeing your videos, specially the ones abt records broke, cheaters exposed and of course, the Billy Mitchell saga. Keep it legendary, you absolute legend.
Dude is a senior citizen now. And he’s spending all of his golden years in lawsuits.
One day he will look back and realize he wasted his life and realized the monster he was and that everyone saw him as
Honestly, I think lawsuits are a much more legitimate lifestyle than milking the glory of a video game nobody plays anymore, especially if the glory was fake.
April Fools
that's his desperate attempt to remain relevant.
He's trying to pad his resume for an eventual presidential run
Billy won't stop. This record keeper persona is all he had. He has nothing to lose now.
There is still his tie collection, frankly.
Wait. That's actually scary. Do you think that Karl is in physical danger? With the dystopian hellhole that Australia is, the police would probably give Billy a medal for taking Karl out.
@@DrFrogglePhD| This sounds like a stretch.
@@DrFrogglePhDKarl knows how to protect himself from the various aussie critters. Billy does not.
So the question is, if Billy is stupid enough to try, which critter will get him ?
Nothing to lose? I don't like him as much as the next guy but come on. He owns and operates a chain on restaurants. How do you think he pays for all the stuff he's constantly getting into..
I love that you put 'Cheater' in the title anytime Billy Mitchell is featured
You know what I am unclear on. Even IF Jobst and Twin Galaxies are colluding, well, so what? It's not illegal, it's not immoral, and it doesn't change the outcome of either Jobst vs Mitchell OR Twin Galaxies vs Mitchell. It'd be like if Twin Galaxies turned around and sued Mitchell because he's buddies with Todd Togers and they both got their records put on the same historical database. Don't both the United States AND Australia have have basic rights that allow for the freedom of association? What, does he want both these groups to burrow into some underground bunkers, never to see the light of day again?
When their best defense is “Karl can’t be awake at 3am” you know they have no chance of winning
Yeah, and Mitchell’s legal team knows it too. I guarantee that every second they have to spend in court representing this clown is filled with constant agony. His lawyers must frequently find themselves wishing for shots of bleach.
back when i quit studying but hadn"t started working yet i regularly went to bed after sunrise and slept into the afternoon
I’m Billy’s age, and I used to drink frosty jack till the sun came up back in the day playing pac man and donkey kong 😳😂👍
Billy's stupidity knows no end 😂
Careful, if he reads this, he'll sue you 😂
Some losers simply never know when to give up.
You can't even f&*king speedrun to the end of his levels of stupidity
He said he would be "pursuing my unfinished business elsewhere." but that's just another lie.
My favorite ever quote about Silly Bitchell: "He sued Karl Jobst expecting him to roll over, but didn't realize Jobst lives in Australia and is used to dealing with aggressive venomous pests"
Billy Mitchell is the Steven Seagal of the video game world 😂
And a special thank you to Billy Mitchell for providing you with enough content for another video so i can be called an absolute legend once more
Billy "Clownshoe" Mitchell is back with another circus act.
Honk honk 🤡
He's not just a clown, he's the whole circus.
Billy "clown tie" Mitchell.
Hey helped us get through the pandemic!!!
Lol it's an April Fools video
1:44 "Billy is a manchild who can't help himself but winge and complain to the court whenever I talk about him. He's like a toddler who runs and cries to his mommy whenever another kid does something he doesn't like. It's pathetic."
I think that summed up the entire story of Billy "Con Man of the Century" Mitchell and also his worth as a person.
this reminds me so much of the spongebob meme "how many times do we have to teach you a lesson, old man!"
Thank Charlie for mentioning you in that billy video he made a year ago it got recommended to me just now and it brought me here didn’t even realize u uploaded
The horse is not only dead, but has been grinded into powder, bones fossilized deep into the earth, wanting to be forgotten, but Billy keeps hitting the spot where that horse corpse once remained.
I could not have said it better
That horse is now oil.
@@fungo6631That implies the horse is valuable. It's not.
The best part is that all of this will eat away at him for the rest of his life, and he'll continue to fester and obsess over it until his last breath. A prison of his own doing, built by out of control ego, bullying and narcissism.
Great comment!
couldn't have said it better
Isn't there a law against frivolous lawsuits in the USA? In my country if you file useless lawsuits, you will pay the defendant's legal fees.
I always think, *if* he's that good and Twin Galaxies somehow banned him for the wrong reasons, there's a lot he could still do. Making contents about retro gaming, doing long plays and retro game playthroughs, joining retro game events / podcasts, do a retro gaming travel series to Japan (he does have the money if the piling lawsuits are any indications), just to name a few.
Plenty of people succeeded without even having a shot at breaking a world record. Literally, anything is better than this.
@@paulaldo9413 I definitely agree. He was obviously very talented. He misplayed all of this badly. Even after everything, he STILL has fans. If he had come clean and not been so litigious years ago, he would have built a following and been able to capitalize on it. I mean, if people sued everyone because of negative videos and content, the courts would have to be open 24/7/365
Remember, one of the viewers of this video is Billy himself, supporting you by watching your content.
Imagine if Billy had spent all this time and energy actually playing Donkey Kong... he might have developed enough skill to have a high score and rightfully be listed!
Nope, as he's banned, he'll never be rightfully listed.
@@elricdotah The only reason he is banned is because he cheated and spent years doubling down on it.
If he had, instead of cheating, actually been pushing his limits, he'd be up there.
It would be something if He's been practicing this whole time and actually does legally smash the high score... And then cuts the mullet.
It would throw his complete chaos into complete chaos.
@OzixiThrill Not necessarily. Unlike Todd Togers & his games, Billy IS good at DK. The thing is - he DID spend a ton of time on those games back in the day. He may have simply peaked & wouldn't be able to get any better even with more practice.
@@metzger5850 Ehhh, at his age I think his joints and reaction time might make it hard to peak again? It's a bit harsh and he's not ancient, but even professional E-Sports players have a career of like 1 decade if they're VERY lucky and VERY healthy.
“Im always staying up until ungodly hours. Im a huge nerd, that’s pretty much standard.”
Gotta love that.
Can confirm. I have to force myself to go to bed at 2am or earlier.
@@SushiElemental 2am? true nerds stay up till 4
One last dive...oh the sun is coming up again.
@@martin_the_artist_ The sun coming up. That's the time for bed signal... or just one more.
7:15
Billy reminds me a Eric from South Park - i cannot imagine ANYONE more suited for "but MOM" squeaky defiant mewl (with little stompy dance with it).
Recently found your channel over catching a speedrun cheater in Minecraft. Thank you for making content and I enjoy how in depth you go. Keep up the good work
"I was awake at 3:30 in the morning. Apparently I should have been asleep at this time"
Me watching this video at 4:50am: "Interesting"
Thank you for not saying 3:30am in the morning :)
Did you just wake up, or did you still have to go to sleep?
@@3dmaster205 i have very bad sleeping habits and hadnt slept yet
Could be worse. Took a long nap yesterday and it led to an unintentional all nighter. It is past 8 am.
@@oShadowkun I get up at 4:25 AM, because I have drive off to work at 5:00 AM, work starts at 6 AM.
It's almost as if Billy Mitchell is doing a meme speedrun where he chooses all of the worst dialogue options. I know it's been said before, but he has to have some sort of humiliation fetish because he's relentlessly pursuing opportunities in which he can make an ass of himself.
This wig is really out here edging embarrassment in real time. Truly astonishing.
He's gone from MAME to meme
Billy is gonna bring this video up in court because you beat him up in a video game
this saga would make a great anime: superheroes karl jobst and jace hall team up to defeat a three headed hydra with an american flag tie and a receding hairline, and every time one of the hydra's heads is cut off it grows two new ones and starts waving a lawsuit filing around with its tail
Just when I thought Billy Mitchell couldn't get any stupider! It's like a gift that keeps on giving! 😅
more like a g(r)ift that keeps on giving 😂
Hahahaha nice one!
"the grift that keeps on grieving"@@Andiama ?
@@monterrang1sounds better ngl
That sounds awesome
8:40 "to further damage Plaintiff's reputation"
Can you damage house more after it's crumbled to pebbles, splinters and dust? I don't think so.
You can crush the pebbles lol
dynamite can do more damage for sure.
My favorite thing about this, is hopefully hearing Billy answer the question "How does accurately reporting court records damage your reputation?"
@@fumoffu_l Bouncing the rubble
@manoftherainshorts9075 -- I sooooooooooooooo want TG's atty's legal response to this to be something along the lines of "The Plaintiff (Milly Bitchell) is a fking ass clown and is the #1 person responsible for destroying Plaintiff's reputation".
The custom wrestler parts of the video truly add the hilarity that is this entire situation. Thanks for the update, Karl!
Billy Mitchell ought to take legal action against his hairdresser.
Karl Jobst and Billy Mitchell settling the score on a WWE ring with Jobst completly folding him will never not be funny to me 😂😂😂🤣
It's like the good version of Chris chan fighting trolls in soul caliber
6:36 His fucking face looks like he’s constantly holding back the urge to fucking cry. I’m dying. 🤣
Or he's talking mid fart
@@chriscampbell4660 well Billy is a complete ass spewing hot air, so...
No way bro this narcissistic douche fully believes he is in the right.
He looks like he's ready to end it all in that clip
watching regular show and even though someone already pointed it out, billy mitchell and "gbf" are so similar is actually hilarious. he even looks just like him xd
plot twist: Billy and Karl in cahoots like Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler!
This is FAR from over.
After he loses the next case and the case after that, and the case after that, he will eventually sue his lawyers for throwing the cases. Then he will lose that case, then he will appeal, etc.
He is a endless joke, Karl. Your career safe.
After that he may try to sue the courts for his losses
Hasn't he gone through a bunch of lawyers?
If I were Karl I would send Billy a Christmas gift EVERY-SINGLE-YEAR.
@@defaultuser6291It would 100% be one of Twin Galaxies' "Not Arcade" shirts, just to rub salt in the wound.
He's going to continue abusing the court system as long as he has his gaggle of sycophant lawyers and lackeys doing the legal work for free on his behalf. If he was accountable for all of these mounting legal costs on his own, he would've left it alone long by now, but he's essentially spending other people's time and money for his ego since it's not putting him on the financial line. It's disgusting, litigious abuse, and here's to Billy swallowing yet another L after L.
The legal system is broken.
@@allanshpeley4284 Even with anti-SLAPP laws to immediately shut down entities or people with money to stifle someone's lawsuits, sadly the world is still run by money, period. Not that Billy has it himself, it's not his money, but like I pointed out, he's spending other people's money since enough weirdos with law licenses like the blonde Jesus freak from King of Kong will clearly stay overnight at the office for the confirmation he's still Billy's friend.
Look on the bright side, there's an army of sycophants, and Billy is doing the world a favor by draining them of money just so he can continue to be a clownshow for our enjoyment.
@@randyohm3445 Agree, if those people will put that much money in something bad, at least they are wasting into a 50 yrs old cheater that only want to see his name on a leaderboard to feel like he accomplished something in life.
April Fools sure is something.
Gotta ask myself, is this an April Fools lawsuit by Billy, or an April Fools video?
(Definitely the latter of course)
"Mr. Judge, they are working together to destroy my reputation!"
"Sir, they cannot destroy which does not exist"
Billy is back...and he is pissed! Billy is pissed, again, coming to a theater near you
It's always clear in these sorts of matters that the lawyers are hoping the judge is technologically illiterate and will just take their word for it. You see it all the time in cases that involve anything more complicated on a PC than scrolling through Facebook.
Haven't even started to watch this video but already liked it. Love to see how the saga continues.
Glad to have you back, Karl! :)
I love that Billy fans won't realise you are joking in your introduction about your career being built around Billy.
Billy fans???
@@xvgm24He has fans somehow
@@theprotoknight Some of the most evil and monstrous dictators who have ever lived, still have fans. Sadly it seems to be human nature.
@@xvgm24 They're like Alex Jones fans, only even stupider... if you can even believe it.
Billy always wins 🏆
It seems like Billy legitimately thought his high scores were going to be fully reinstated, and is embarrassed that he didn't know what the word "historic" meant.
Billy probably didn't realize it until he watched Karl's video covering the settlement results. 😂
@DraknalHitdan
More likely he found out when his twitter post was corrected by the readership.
This is one of my favorite internet series as of now. It's like watching a superhero and a supervillain fight over and over every episode in a saturday morning cartoon. Billy is such a legendary super villain that if he was a fictional character he'd probably be one of the classic Disney villains.
Some people really need a psychological evaluation before being allowed to start a lawsuit
The fictional WWE matchups between you & Billy are ½ the reason I come to watch the videos tbh 😂 It's actually god tier entertainment 😂
Could jirard and billy Mitchell be a tag team?
@@HaLoFreQ2000Muta & Karl vs. Jirad & Billy?? YESSS!! 😭😂💀
His ONLY REAL high score is the number of cases LOST! Love your work man!
The biggest challenge Billy faces is keeping that hair dyed and from graying
I’m now convinced Billy and Karl are working together. No way they ain’t.
"He was up at 3:33 am! That's suspicious!"
It's just after 4:00 am where I live. Is Billy going to call me suspicious for having weird sleeping habits too? :V
Yes
11:22 That “Billy Mitchell” as a Patron always cracks me up 💀
Love your work. And, as someone who typically listens while doing other things, spotting the wrestling footage killed me.
All this for a cheated high score in a video game
I've been following the whole saga since even before Karl picked it up, and I eagerly await the day when we struggle to remember Billy Mitchell. Poor guy doesn't seem content to fade into the obscurity that he so rightfully deserves
I remember when first following this with Apollo may he rest In peace
Col Mustard "Are you trying to make me look like an idiot?"
Wadsworth "You don't need any help from me."
Col. Mustard "That's Right!!"
100% the situation here ... I need to rewatch that movie now ...
@@halfsourlizard9319To do that, you're going to have to leave your computer room.
Rrrrrun down the hall!
...Then remember you can just watch the movie on your computer.
based Clue reference, i quote that movie all the time ahahaha
@@Darkfyyre Theres a clue movie?
@valetboy21 (edited after I saw the other replies lol) Love that movie!
Billy Mitchell, never quits, even when he's losing...and then tantrums when he KNOWS he's screwed...
05:55 "Never Surrender"
Perfectly fitting this present case.
The only reason I watch Karl's videos is because he calls me a legend in the beginning, every time. And it makes me feel good.
The only reason you reposted this comment is to get easy likes
You are a Legend
@destinationlimbo378 now that you've pointed this out, I'm gonna give him a like too.
@@SludgeBob_ Thanks fren :)
@@destinationlimbo378even if true, who cares. Means nothing at the end of the day
Twin Galaxies: "Stay down. Final warning."
Billy: "I can do this all day."
TG: We will agree to unsealing parts of the settlement agreement. The part Billy wants unsealed as well as these other parts that put in in proper context.
You just know that Billy is watching this video; profusely shaking his head, grunting like a caveman
2018, man we've been on this ride for 6 years and it's still going.
Billy is the gift that keeps on giving.
He’s a man baby who dose not know when to quit and throws tantrums when he dose not get his way
Me: Hmm, what video to watch while I do office Paperwork.
Karl: Don't worry, I got you!
I cannot get over Billy Mitchell's hair. It's just... I have no description, I am actually speechless. It's like a creature lol.
it’s beautiful
Lego hair
It is, by a wide margin, the most pleasant aspect to his person.
He needs higher hair
In a strange way Billy Mitchell and his law suits have been a blessing in disguise for you.
This is why Twin Galaxies settling pissed me off so much. That dude needed to be out in his place and lose hard.
living rent-free in his head, man wakes up in a cold sweat just thinking about you. Keep going strong Karl
Billy Mitchell being one of his patreons is hilarious 😂
nice spot.
Either somebody called themselves Billy Mitchell for a joke or Karl put his name in there as a joke.
@@vez3834Considering this video released on April fool's Day Karl probably put his name in
@@mrheroprimesIt says the upload date is March 31st for me
Same but karl is in Australia hes like 18 hours ahead of me, so a day and a half ahead @Elbon-the-Lolinator