Billy Mitchell And The Red Joystick Of Destiny

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  • Опубліковано 16 січ 2025
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    Earlier this year Twin Galaxies conducted a deposition of Billy Mitchell, and it's one of the funniest things ever. Today we will look at the highlight. Billy gets caught in a massive lie, and gets completely destroyed.
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  • @karljobst
    @karljobst  Рік тому +2971

    I'm beginning to think Billy Mitchell might not win his lawsuit.
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    • @HenryIsBoredd
      @HenryIsBoredd Рік тому +1

      Nice vid man

    • @maximmk6446
      @maximmk6446 Рік тому +14

      Wouldn't that be a great news!

    • @foxwolf316
      @foxwolf316 Рік тому +1

      billy mitchell just give up you can't compete against the internet, can you just stop sueing this B.S. ?

    • @HenryIsBoredd
      @HenryIsBoredd Рік тому

      Didn’t realise I was first 😂

    • @12345.......
      @12345....... Рік тому +23

      He should drop the suit before his hole gets any deeper.

  • @bananieldiamonds1921
    @bananieldiamonds1921 Рік тому +7025

    actually the joystick WAS black, but Billy played so fast that it started glowing RED HOT

    • @angeltier987
      @angeltier987 Рік тому +95

      What is this, demon slayer lmao

    • @jasonsnow4177
      @jasonsnow4177 Рік тому +27

      Facts lol

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 Рік тому +51

      In before some twit says photoshop.

    • @advang4820
      @advang4820 Рік тому +76

      Was not Billy also selling red hot sauce? Which makes even more sense or related.

    • @StarryNighti
      @StarryNighti Рік тому +7

      had me in the first half...

  • @TSastronomy
    @TSastronomy Рік тому +2069

    "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake" what's fascinating in this case is Billy is his own worst enemy and constantly interrupts himself

    • @grimmsoul3096
      @grimmsoul3096 Рік тому +26

      correct

    • @chrism4008
      @chrism4008 Рік тому +7

      I dont think his stupidity is fascinating, just entertaining, sometimes annoying

    • @Aquana01
      @Aquana01 Рік тому +1

      who even said that

    • @chrism4008
      @chrism4008 Рік тому +6

      @@Aquana01 sun tzu i think

    • @LibraritheWizardOfficial
      @LibraritheWizardOfficial Рік тому +20

      ​@@Aquana01Napoleon Bonaparte said it, more or less. He wasn't the first to understand the principle, but I don't recall anyone in prior history making it a memorable statement.

  • @peterthesneakybastar
    @peterthesneakybastar Рік тому +10844

    I cannot fathom how there’s actually people are defending him. It’s either complete denial or they’re purposely lying

    • @ScopeSeeker
      @ScopeSeeker Рік тому +902

      Surely bait for viewers. ...right?

    • @captainsergeant
      @captainsergeant Рік тому +478

      One has to wonder what those types are getting for defending him in public. Or what they think they will get.

    • @Roboshi2007
      @Roboshi2007 Рік тому +412

      can't even see what you would gain from defending him. like who has that much stock in billy mitchels innocence?

    • @yourlocalryan
      @yourlocalryan Рік тому +441

      Denial. Sometimes it’s just hard to admit when you’re wrong.

    • @SkulShurtugalTCG
      @SkulShurtugalTCG Рік тому +543

      People defend him because, all these lies aside, he actually was a good player, and they refuse to believe a good player could ever cheat.

  • @Oldzkooll
    @Oldzkooll Рік тому +669

    There’s a subtle moment that I love - the lawyer comes across like he doesn’t understand what an authentic cabinet is, and Billy buys into it, he’s very dismissive with his answers, little eye contact etc. When the main photo is revealed and the lawyer asks outright if Billy played an 8 way, Billy finally gives the lawyer his undivided attention, understanding that the lawyer perfectly understands all the jargon. He’s staring at the lawyer with real venom when he realises the lawyer understands what a plunger button is, what an 8 way is etc. very subtle but very damning.

    • @chaosinc.382
      @chaosinc.382 Рік тому +80

      Ooh I'd love to have been a telepathic fly on the wall during that moment. I bet Billy boy was seething internally

    • @jemlesvideo
      @jemlesvideo 11 місяців тому +16

      Anyone can tell where the full testimony footage can be found ? It has been on UA-cam once but it got removed shortly after !

    • @AndyCandyZeroSugar
      @AndyCandyZeroSugar 10 місяців тому +22

      Usually I just listen to the videos, only a few times looking up. I tried to imagine how Billy must've looked, but watching that moment was incredible. You can really see the seething anger, even though his tone does not change. Thank you for pointing this moment out!

    • @VaporeonEnjoyer1
      @VaporeonEnjoyer1 9 місяців тому +10

      Billy is dumb to think that the lawyer wouldn't have all this technical information in a deposition that is based on original manufacture hardware.

    • @merasmurry1460
      @merasmurry1460 7 місяців тому +5

      Look I hate billy as much as the next guy, but man I also hate this "body language" pseudoscience.
      Like just point out his reaction to the lawyer understand the technical jargon and leave all the body language analysis bullshit out of it.

  • @just9911
    @just9911 Рік тому +2472

    We need an annual “Red Joystick” awards show for that year’s worst cases of cheating.

    • @trequor
      @trequor Рік тому +46

      Hunnerd percent yes

    • @tjenadonn6158
      @tjenadonn6158 Рік тому +152

      AKA The Billys.

    • @NeonSonOfXenon
      @NeonSonOfXenon Рік тому +57

      The trophy should be a golden statue of billy holding a red joystick in his hands

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle Рік тому +59

      ​@@NeonSonOfXenonMake it Garrett Bobby Ferguson holding it. That'll make him extra mad.

    • @ferdinand12390
      @ferdinand12390 Рік тому +11

      @@NeonSonOfXenon golden? nah, more like doodoo brown, just to make the shame evident

  • @Awksi
    @Awksi Рік тому +2171

    The most puzzling part of this whole series has been finding out Billy has fans lmao.

    • @andrewbeecroft6509
      @andrewbeecroft6509 Рік тому +108

      Yeah, even when it was thought he'd earned the records, I still thought he was a bit douchey.

    • @pizzlerot2730
      @pizzlerot2730 Рік тому

      There are always going to be people in the world who have such an incredibly deeply ingrained victim complex that they're always going to be compelled to take the more unpopular side of any argument by default. They don't even think about it or try to educate themselves, they just think that because one side has more people, that that side must be wrong, and they start spewing crap uncontrollably in support of even a demonstrably false position.

    • @MikeTheD
      @MikeTheD Рік тому +56

      Billy has always been absolutely hilarious, but he's dead serious. Internet made people alot more savvy about cringe, but some people like Billy and his orbiters got left behind.

    • @Mephiston
      @Mephiston Рік тому +66

      He doesnt have fans, he has simps.

    • @horseheadkid
      @horseheadkid Рік тому +5

      right?!?!

  • @ElectronicWitchcraft
    @ElectronicWitchcraft Рік тому +1908

    Look Karl, it’s really simple. Imagine you were an original DK machine and you were in the same room as the video game player of the century. Now imagine he strolls over and lays his hands on you… would your joystick change colour?? I know mine would.

    • @supertoasting1011
      @supertoasting1011 Рік тому +99

      lmao

    • @lokevoice
      @lokevoice Рік тому +233

      Yeah I’d definitely let him mess with my original hardware

    • @Eric0225
      @Eric0225 Рік тому +203

      Billy only plays with big black joysticks, the joystick turned red from rage after it found out he cheated on it after playing with white joysticks.

    • @m1xxx3r
      @m1xxx3r Рік тому +21

      I guess You must be talking about different type of "joystick" 🤣

    • @Shenorai
      @Shenorai Рік тому +26

      You should see a doctor about that.

  • @arthurleao5296
    @arthurleao5296 Рік тому +1558

    Billy is such a good gamer he just speedran his own trial, what a legend

    • @asoteunh345
      @asoteunh345 Рік тому +34

      perhaps he'll finally be the gamer of the century

    • @taoofjester4113
      @taoofjester4113 Рік тому +17

      You need to pay more attention to how Billy words things. He didn't actually admit to anything, and how he qualified his statements leaves a lot of wiggle room. Nor has the lawyer caught him lying.
      A decent lawyer will shred the idea that Billy played on that cabinet. There are only photos of him in front of a cabinet, which Billy does say looks like the one he played on. But he also tosses out that he would not play on a cabinet with a red joystick. Ergo, if the cabinet had a red joystick, he did not play on it
      The pictures definitely hurt his lawsuit and credibility, but it isnt a slam dunk. Calling him a liar is a bad idea without solid proof he is lying.
      Lying implies intent and the knowledge of what you are saying is not true. Misremembering or getting facts wrong does not automatically mean he lied. Unless there is a video of him saying that he definitely played a cabinet with a red joystick for his record, it would be near impossible to prove he is lying.
      I will also point out people's memories are horrible. Eyewitness testimony is one of the worse forms of evidence out there. People change, alter, forget, and make up new memories. They also see, hear, and think something happened that never did.
      Billy may actually believe the joystick was black. His memory of the cabinet could very well not be what the actual cabinet looked like.
      I hope Billy loses the lawsuit and is forced to pay attorney fees for the defendants. But this deposition and the photos do not guarantee a win and do not prove he was lying.

    • @UmbrasMercy
      @UmbrasMercy Рік тому

      ​@@taoofjester4113Except he sated UNDER OATH that it was the machiene, So either way even if the evidence was "Not Legit enough" would still be convicted for lying under oath which throws ALL of his case into question. Honestly this is a pretty open and shut case either way cause Billy has 0 proof to back up his claims. Where as Twin Galaxy has multiple submitted peices of evidencw and cort records of Billy lying. Any decent Judge will look at the case and dismiss Billy, and if its a bad one it will just be appealed anyway.

    • @vergilthealphaandomega8189
      @vergilthealphaandomega8189 Рік тому +40

      @@taoofjester4113 I mean the problem is he outright claimed if it wasn't black he wouldn't play it

    • @Vinicius_Berger
      @Vinicius_Berger Рік тому +15

      He did the 0% category

  • @hiramsiqueiros9018
    @hiramsiqueiros9018 Рік тому +494

    the chances of a red joystick ruining your life are low, but never 0.

    • @An0nymous_L0gic
      @An0nymous_L0gic Рік тому +5

      lol

    • @Helikaeon
      @Helikaeon Рік тому +25

      You might even say "Anythings a di**o if you're brave enough, or Billy Mitchell. Especially a Joystick. " Cos he defo done f***ed himself goooood 🤣

    • @shawnd567
      @shawnd567 Рік тому +3

      Bruh 😂😂

    • @brayden1562
      @brayden1562 Рік тому

      haha. Actually laughed out loud on this one. Well done XD XD XD

    • @metaljhacker
      @metaljhacker Рік тому +1

      Not just a red joystick, but a red joysticky

  • @ostrichblips
    @ostrichblips Рік тому +1558

    The Lawyer: trying to shut down the line of questioning
    Billy: no it was black 1,000%

    • @1tgb4yb25ub5ub
      @1tgb4yb25ub5ub Рік тому +2

      SHUT UP
      (UA-cam I'm not bullying this man I'm joking please don't ban me)

    • @1tgb4yb25ub5ub
      @1tgb4yb25ub5ub Рік тому +11

      I got my last warning so I'm terrified:(

    • @Paur
      @Paur Рік тому +15

      IIRC, they still have to answer objections, but the objection will determine if those answers are admissable in court or something.

    • @SkulShurtugalTCG
      @SkulShurtugalTCG Рік тому +34

      @nolife6013 Finding the cabinet in the present day doesn't prove anything because such a joystick could have been put on at any time, by anyone. The only evidence that could possibly matter is witness or photographic evidence from the event itself--which they have, in those photos.

    • @louieberg2942
      @louieberg2942 Рік тому

      @@SkulShurtugalTCG True, but it's just very tasty to have Billy be so absolute on a fact that does not work for him at all.

  • @dieinfire920
    @dieinfire920 Рік тому +716

    If you feel stupid, remember there’s still people defending Billy.

    • @jackpijjin4088
      @jackpijjin4088 Рік тому +65

      And those same people resort to using insults to prove their nonexistent point. 'DESGUSTANG.'

    • @Galamoth06
      @Galamoth06 Рік тому +59

      "Grasping ayt strahws, I tell you whut. Distustang."

    • @Palochii
      @Palochii Рік тому +52

      That's the most interesting thing here to me. There is literally no benefit for those people other than a serious risk of being disappointed, but they still defend him so passionately
      anyway.

    • @ImpetuouslyInsane
      @ImpetuouslyInsane Рік тому +39

      @@Galamoth06 UA-cam interpreted your writing as a separate language and asked me if I wanted to translate it.

    • @PsiRedEye22
      @PsiRedEye22 Рік тому +19

      Narcissists cover each other when they are caught in lies, because if one narcissist gets ousted for his lies, then it could happen to any of them.,

  • @LunaMinuna
    @LunaMinuna Рік тому +617

    This feels like Ace Attorney where we know the person is lying but we have to pan it out so they can do this entire break down monologue

    • @Createrz2015
      @Createrz2015 Рік тому +17

      I wanna see billy mitchel breakdown now

    • @Gazuretine
      @Gazuretine Рік тому +11

      ​@@Createrz2015imagine if he throws his hair like Mr. Didit (Sawhit guy)

    • @Createrz2015
      @Createrz2015 Рік тому +8

      @@Gazuretine would love to see that. Most likely it would be either Gant or mr Whites breakdown tho.

    • @dylanogg347
      @dylanogg347 Рік тому +7

      ​@@Createrz2015 I reckon it'd be on the level of Von Karma's breakdown.

    • @carcosacommune
      @carcosacommune 8 місяців тому +5

      @@Createrz2015 Gant has too much gravitas

  • @HarbingerX7
    @HarbingerX7 Рік тому +3346

    People defending Billy: "Billy had the photos!"
    Billy: "nope, never had photos."
    People defending Billy: ☹️

    • @jameskelly-smith1279
      @jameskelly-smith1279 Рік тому +263

      Actually they'd probably still say he had photos after his admitting he didn't.

    • @CalculatedRiskAK
      @CalculatedRiskAK Рік тому +186

      The great thing about it is he's lying about the joystick, and he either is or is not lying about the photos. No matter what, he's already committed perjury. How they can still defend him is beyond me.

    • @mage1439
      @mage1439 Рік тому +91

      @@jameskelly-smith1279 What is he, Trump?

    • @jameskelly-smith1279
      @jameskelly-smith1279 Рік тому

      @@mage1439 Eh, anyone who has supporters has many uninformed enough that they get things wrong even if they say the contrary. For example, I don't think many Bill Gates fans know that he first got rich by selling software to computer companies before selling computers themselves.

    • @tjenadonn6158
      @tjenadonn6158 Рік тому +52

      ​@@CalculatedRiskAKAt this point he's going to get a legitimate high score for the number of times someone can perjure themselves over the course of one lawsuit. Hell by the end of this we'll find out his name is actually Octavia Kasmirovich and he's been a short, elderly Russian woman this entire time.

  • @NoOne-fo1di
    @NoOne-fo1di Рік тому +380

    I've been to court a few times but I've only ever had to testify once and before that trial I had to meet with my friends lawyer(my friend was sueing someone) and the whole lesson was for me to learn that you only answer what was asked and make the answer as short as possible. He said "do not give them them ANY information they don't ask for. If it's a yes or no question that's the only answer you give. The other lawyer may ask you a yes or no question and then just stay quiet and look at you if you answer yes or no. He's only doing that so you will feel like you're supposed to keep talking, DO NOT keep talking. I cannot stress the importance of what I'm telling you" I cannot even begin to guess how many times he said that.

    • @ganashal
      @ganashal Рік тому +46

      If you've watched the West Wing (TV series) this was in an episode. One of the characters is being prepared for a deposition and the lawyer says "Do you know the time?" and she looks at her watch and says "It's 3:30" and he says "Don't do that", explains this and then says "Do you know the time" and she says "Yes".

    • @filiptrajkovski2198
      @filiptrajkovski2198 Рік тому +7

      if they ask you to explain something explain it in as little words as possible and as close to the question as possible
      for example if they ask you "how did you do this?" or "how would one do this?" best to answer "it is done like this" and zip it, no Id do it like this but ive seen people do it like that, just "its this" and zip

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise Рік тому +15

      I am sure Billy Mitchell's lawyer did the same. And the lawyer questioning you knew you had been told that.
      But it is far easier said than done. For example, the "just wait after the initial answer" strategy is done because it works. People do not like silences in a conversation and they naturally seek to fill them so they will often add context without thinking.
      On top of that, note that the deposition was well over two hours long. And they raised this topic just before one hour and went back to it more than two hours into the questioning. By the time they ask Billy these questions he is likely tired and stressed, which weakens anyone's self control against their instinct to fill a silence.
      And a talker like Billy is more susceptible to that. And there is likely also a good deal of overconfidence from him believing he could not possibly lose at anything so he doesn't take it seriously enough.

    • @erikkonstas
      @erikkonstas Рік тому +2

      Until you get the yes/no question "Have you stopped abusing your partner?"... (the answer is no, but how it would be construed is another story...)

    • @filiptrajkovski2198
      @filiptrajkovski2198 Рік тому +4

      @@erikkonstas you can just say "i never startet"

  • @lelandunruh7896
    @lelandunruh7896 Рік тому +1712

    I'm a lawyer, and must say that this was a well-conducted deposition. You're right in saying that you don't want to make a big deal about anything or spring "gotchas" here. You want to nail down the relevant testimony and be able to impeach when the time comes. It is really tough for most people (and even a lot of lawyers) to simply keep their cool and act methodically under these circumstances.

    • @kinghonkler4036
      @kinghonkler4036 Рік тому +99

      I'm not an expert in law and plz correct me if I'm wrong, but when Billy's attorney objects on speculation, I think he should have stopped talking. He went on saying it didn't make sense then asked the other attorney if he meant "this" instead. Billy's lawyer is messing up just as bad as he is xD.

    • @blurredlights5235
      @blurredlights5235 Рік тому +8

      I imagine there's a bit of a rush when it all goes as perfectly as it does here.

    • @meilish
      @meilish Рік тому

      Thanks.

    • @UndefinedStasis
      @UndefinedStasis Рік тому +40

      ​​​​​​@@kinghonkler4036I am not a lawyer but have taken plenty of business law classes as a result of my degree/profession. He definetly should have stopped talking however, Billy nor his lawyer realized that they dug or were digging themselves into a hole, as the image of billy playing on the arcade machine with a red joystick, wasn't know to billy or his lawyer; at that time. "Would you play on a red joystick" "No"...yet we have a image of you playing on a machine, in which you said was the machine you broke the record on, with a red joystick, so what do you make of this?

    • @sideridely
      @sideridely Рік тому +5

      ​@@UndefinedStasisI'm not a lawyer and that's obvious to me. I'd of not being able to remember details from a machine I played x amount of years ago

  • @Chaud31423
    @Chaud31423 Рік тому +1175

    The fact that Karl kept that secret for so long, despite how much of a smoking gun it is, is a testament to his professionalism.

    • @HelloYersoGae
      @HelloYersoGae Рік тому +96

      nothing is more dangerous than a patient person. he really let billy hang himself with this.

    • @spiderlily723
      @spiderlily723 Рік тому +6

      Unless there is established fact that this was the only machine there, that's not a smoking gun actually [dude's a lying liar, but laws deals with specifics].

    • @HelloYersoGae
      @HelloYersoGae Рік тому +49

      @@spiderlily723 the photo with the blocked joystick, billy confirmed that was the cabinet he played on, then they show the same cabinet only without billy's body blocking the joystick. its a smoking gun no doubt

    • @spiderlily723
      @spiderlily723 Рік тому +10

      @@HelloYersoGae See, here is the thing: in the clips in this video, there is no footage of him ADMITTING anything.
      He confirms it LOOKS like the cabinet and that he REMEMBERS joystick being black. All subjective feelings and nothing definitive that any good lawy can say are just confuicion due to time (and how unreliable human memory is - why witness testimonies are kinda worthless on their own). That is not admision of the cabinet being the one he played with UNLESS is it established this is the only one on that convention.
      He's a lying twat, but he IS good at lying, otherwise people would've caught on way faster.

    • @tmilker
      @tmilker Рік тому +12

      @@spiderlily723 The lawyer can use other's testimonies to establish that fact, doesn't need Billy's necessarily. We didn't see the depositions from all the witnesses in this video, so maybe they already did?

  • @secondakira
    @secondakira Рік тому +1381

    Red herring: Something that seems important, but has no real significance
    Red joystick: Something that seems unimportant, but is really significant

  • @lynxfirenze4994
    @lynxfirenze4994 Рік тому +413

    Honestly Twin Galaxies holding onto that picture in secret for so long is a real genius move. They knew he'd just shift the goalposts so even though it was basically a win button they hold onto it until changing his story would be admitting to perjury

    • @DarkFrozenDepths
      @DarkFrozenDepths Рік тому +19

      The smartest people will document EVERYTHING so there's little to no doubt about anything later on.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise Рік тому +28

      It was the right move, but it wasn't exactly genius. This was done pretty much by the book.
      They did the job well, but there is nothing novel nor would there be any real reason to do otherwise. If you have information about the lawsuit that you aren't legally obliged to share with the other side, you don't share it until you can use it against them to its greatest value

    • @hugovanwanghe7645
      @hugovanwanghe7645 Рік тому +7

      the real question is how didn't he know about it, he seems to follow every piece of content covering him on the internet and the pics apeared in a video 6 month ago

    • @ericdanielski4802
      @ericdanielski4802 Рік тому +4

      ​@@hugovanwanghe7645The video of the hearing could be older. The exact date of the interrogation was also mentioned in an older video.

    • @lance7413
      @lance7413 Рік тому

      Actually it's really stupid because discovery demands those photos revealed so they are likely inadmissable at trial.

  • @TetraBitGaming
    @TetraBitGaming Рік тому +897

    This whole debacle is so surreal. Crazy to think someone can lie that much lmao
    Also, TIL Billy Mitchell stans exist

    • @easymodegamer501
      @easymodegamer501 Рік тому +4

      Oh hey didn’t expect to see TetraBit here.

    • @ScrambledAndBenedict
      @ScrambledAndBenedict Рік тому +18

      Donkey Kong: Lost Bits. "Only one known copy of the game features the red 8-direction joystick. This is not cheating in any sense of the term so please don't sue me, Garret Bobby Ferguson"

    • @DeusMors
      @DeusMors Рік тому +4

      Missed his calling in politics.

    • @jorymo4964
      @jorymo4964 Рік тому +25

      I'm still hung up on what Donkey Kong speedruns had to do with a mortgage broker convention

    • @legendarywiimaster
      @legendarywiimaster Рік тому +2

      Literally stans for any extremely hatable human beings exist. Liver King has fanboys defending him

  • @LampHatScott
    @LampHatScott Рік тому +136

    That Billy Mitchell defender sounded like he was about to cry.

  • @Judgement_Kazzy
    @Judgement_Kazzy Рік тому +620

    Really, it's sad Billy staked all his claims on DK and Pac-Man. Clearly, he has the makings of a legitimate pro at Dig Dug

  • @TyroneBruinsmaFilms
    @TyroneBruinsmaFilms Рік тому +279

    Twin Galaxies: "I place one card face down"
    *3 years later*
    Twin Galaxies: "You've activated my trap card"

    • @LilBabaG
      @LilBabaG Рік тому +66

      Coincidentally that's about how long a turn takes in Yu Gi Oh nowadays.

    • @MCGIESEKE
      @MCGIESEKE Рік тому

      best comment 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Vega_Claymore
      @Vega_Claymore Рік тому

      Silly Bitchel need to have some ash blossom in his deck smh

    • @andyo1872
      @andyo1872 Рік тому +2

      you need to lure your prey to activate the trap. Twin galaxies and their lawyer did amazing job.

    • @SirBranDon24
      @SirBranDon24 Рік тому

      ​@@LilBabaGnot if you have nib in hand lol

  • @ApexPredatorChrisHansen
    @ApexPredatorChrisHansen Рік тому +629

    Karl just spoonfed his haters info exactly like this lawyer did to billy and chokeslammed all of them in exactly the same way. Masterclass.

    • @TrackpadProductions
      @TrackpadProductions Рік тому +55

      The sad thing is I'd bet they're _all_ gonna do exactly the same thing. Just invent some new dumb excuses so they don't have to admit they were wrong. 😮‍💨

    • @andresponce-vazquez9158
      @andresponce-vazquez9158 Рік тому +26

      ​@TrackpadProductions oh you don't understand those photos were faked by twin galaxies in order to slander the great and grand Billy

    • @hobojoe9717
      @hobojoe9717 Рік тому +24

      It’s so funny how the one guy was talking about how the red joystick didn’t matter and wasn’t a big deal. And then Billy himself goes on to adamantly claim he would only ever play on a black stick since that’s what was official lol

    • @TrackpadProductions
      @TrackpadProductions Рік тому +22

      @@hobojoe9717 They're all acting like it's the only piece of evidence TG has, too. Like, this isn't even meant to be their smoking gun. It's one of _many._ But I guess these people don't have object permanence yet, so a nice blend of goalpost-moving and bulverism is enough for them 🤷

    • @johnm1008
      @johnm1008 Рік тому +5

      Or a Karl would say Maasterclaaass

  • @draconis17
    @draconis17 Рік тому +832

    man, apparently I would be a terrible lawyer because I would NEVER be able to resist revealing his lies as soon as I have the chance.

    • @DustinJames-mk1gl
      @DustinJames-mk1gl Рік тому +142

      You have to remember rule #1 of war when you're a lawyer
      Never interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake

    • @FormerGovernmentHuman
      @FormerGovernmentHuman Рік тому +20

      Depositions and cross examinations have alot in common with interrogation.

    • @dm8579
      @dm8579 Рік тому +14

      It would be tempting, but you will get better with experience.

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 Рік тому

      @@FormerGovernmentHuman Tell us more professor law!

    • @lifehurts1183
      @lifehurts1183 Рік тому +12

      That’s what makes this lawyer so brilliant. He knew the best strategy to expose Billy and had a lot of patience.

  • @nsahandler
    @nsahandler Рік тому +549

    I am an arcade technician and I love how Billy is trying to say 'I didn't do that' -
    My guy. The second you saw that setup you would have walked.
    We have og DK cabinets with plunger buttons and 4-way joysticks. They are absolute shit compared to today - but there is literally no mistaking a Nintendo 4-way joystick for any other joystick. It's short, stubby, and has its own unique feel opposed to offer joysticks. You have to buy a wedding ring for the commitment the joystick requires to go one-way and your jump arc. You can't glide it back and forth.
    Even if he did set the high score on this cabinet (he didn't), he used this cabinet because he thought he would never get called out for it

    • @Nightenstaff
      @Nightenstaff Рік тому +43

      Nintendo 4-ways really do have a surprisingly unique feel. I own a DK cab myself and it's amazing how much stick movement it takes to go from left to right or up to down. It's a one-of-a-kind feel for sure.

    • @nsahandler
      @nsahandler Рік тому +29

      @@Nightenstaff
      The first arcade I worked at was modern. The one I work at now is all EXCLUSIVELY original cabinets with original components from 1999 and before.
      The difference between pre-JAMMA, wild-west joystick and button configurations and post-JAMMA is night and day on some cabinets. Nintendo joysticks are one of them. Pac Man is another.

    • @Jmvars
      @Jmvars Рік тому +46

      Someone clearly swapped out the joystick betweeen him getting the record and this photo.
      /s

    • @gingy30
      @gingy30 Рік тому +28

      ​@@JmvarsReverse Flash did it.
      "It was me Billy. I switched the sticks!!!"

    • @DieEineMieze
      @DieEineMieze Рік тому +3

      ​@@gingy30Did you ever thought of becoming a lawyer? 🤔

  • @evamarias8896
    @evamarias8896 Рік тому +686

    This is literally an Ace Attorney case with how hilariously bad at lying he is. Topped off with prosecution objections attempting to save him lmao

    • @zeke7515
      @zeke7515 Рік тому +30

      I can easily see this case being used in law schools around the country.

    • @LucyTheLamia
      @LucyTheLamia Рік тому +34

      Bro has Winston Payne as his lawyer lmao

    • @nixel1324
      @nixel1324 Рік тому +42

      OBJECTION! I've actually been playing Ace Attorney lately, and the people on trial are way better prepared than Billy! Also, not enough desk slamming.

    • @hotfightinghistory9224
      @hotfightinghistory9224 Рік тому +16

      Still tho, it's kind of impressive watching Billy when presented with contrary evidence. He looks at it, and by sheer force of his massive lying ability, he re-shuffles his own subjective reality to reflect whatever story is needed to account for the schism. You can almost see him sweat with the effort!

    • @koppsr
      @koppsr Рік тому +11

      "Objection your honor!! They questioned my client ,with facts, so he'd incriminate himself! Not fair!!" 🤣

  • @siphillis
    @siphillis Рік тому +773

    All this Billy Mitchell content is clearly out of spite and I'm 100% here for it.

    • @Sniperbear13
      @Sniperbear13 Рік тому +28

      Revenge is a dish best served cold.

    • @hansolo631
      @hansolo631 Рік тому +44

      I mean, is it spite? Didn't Billy open litigation against him? if I put my hands up to ward off a punch, am I doing that out of spite?

    • @litigioussociety4249
      @litigioussociety4249 Рік тому +12

      But Billy has been under the radar for a while regarding all the deceit and fraud with his various records. Then he and Todd Rogers must have sat down with a scummy lawyer, and figured they might be able to cash in on the situation, and it has continually escalated from there.

    • @manoftherainshorts9075
      @manoftherainshorts9075 Рік тому +36

      It's a content farm, and I'm going to watch all of these. If it helps Karl defend himself against that conman, I'm going for it.

    • @JaxonHaxon
      @JaxonHaxon Рік тому

      @@hansolo631 this tho fr, spite is definitely the wrong word to use here for this situation, if he was kicking the dead dog after the lawsuit was over *maybe* but this is an active lawsuit, this is real shit and karl is doing his best job(st) to bury him

  • @brownjellyfish
    @brownjellyfish Рік тому +192

    12:25 Calling Billy a human barrier may be the highest praise Karl has ever given him.

  • @NerfPlayeR135
    @NerfPlayeR135 Рік тому +725

    Billy: "If it wasn't black I wouldn't have played it."
    Twin Galaxies: _"You've triggered my trap card!_ (But I won't say this out loud.)"

    • @jamesm3471
      @jamesm3471 Рік тому +34

      Delightfully ironic, how something called a _JOY_ Stick can cause such of look of pain and consternation on Billy’s face.

    • @michaeldonoghue9015
      @michaeldonoghue9015 Рік тому +7

      Always bet on black.

    • @praeamble
      @praeamble Рік тому +8

      He's doomed both ways, either he played on a machine he admits was modified or he admits he never played on the machine which he claims to have achieved the record on.

    • @IanHsieh
      @IanHsieh Рік тому +8

      Ace Attorney BGM plays~~

    • @mage1439
      @mage1439 Рік тому

      @@michaeldonoghue9015 Ahem... Fuck red!

  • @SuperSecretSunshine
    @SuperSecretSunshine Рік тому +572

    Holy shit, the trick with the photo of the hidden joystick is like something straight out of Ace Attorney and I love it. I love that the court system even allows twists like these.

    • @yeoldeknight3285
      @yeoldeknight3285 Рік тому +23

      Yes, and it was epic.

    • @Doktario_Mystario
      @Doktario_Mystario Рік тому +51

      how would you even prevent these type os tactics to be used?
      "your honor the order in which the photo's where shown to my client shows he was put in a trap, i request this case to be dropped because they tricked us"

    • @Idk-hg8jr
      @Idk-hg8jr Рік тому +27

      @@Doktario_Mystario "Your Honor, the photo was intentionally used when Billy was blocking the red stick" Oh wait......

    • @bigcd3438
      @bigcd3438 Рік тому +38

      It's even better that the person standing in front of the stick is none other than Billy himself.

    • @DIEGOSHAY
      @DIEGOSHAY Рік тому +34

      @@Doktario_Mystario In a criminal trial, all evidence that one side has must be presented to the other side before the trial even beings. Fortunately, this is a civil trial, where gotchas can still happen.

  • @FreyVanir
    @FreyVanir Рік тому +130

    I love it when exhibit H gets shown to his face and when the lawyer asks "that's still the same cabinet you played on?" and Billy automatically activates defensive maneuvers on the red joystick even when not asked about the joystick yet instead of just simply answering "No."

    • @PunctualGuy_
      @PunctualGuy_ Рік тому +20

      The best part is his brilliant response to the clear evidence he's wrong is "Maybe [it was changed] in the photo." He would have us believe that the Florida Mortgage Brokers Convention staff took an original Donkey Kong arcade cabinet, swapped out the original black joystick for a red one, and had Billy pose for multiple photos in front of that same altered cabinet, all without Billy knowing or caring. Sure.

    • @Brazz27
      @Brazz27 Рік тому +7

      That's the part I don't get. Going for the : "Nope that's not the machine I played on." Instead of the rambling about the previous statement, wouldve been so much better for him..
      Unless he really released the photos himself and had a clear plan on the narrative he wanted to go for with them... That would make sense for his approach but it's still weird..

    • @SayAhh
      @SayAhh Рік тому +6

      So either he's lying and been lying or his memory is unreliable, and both are terrible for his case.

    • @hendizzle444
      @hendizzle444 Рік тому +6

      You telling me they had TWO donkey kong cabinets at the Florida Mortgage Broker Convention!?

    • @elasmojones
      @elasmojones Рік тому +3

      @@hendizzle444 Shit, they must have had 145 just lined up against the walls waiting for all those Mortgage Brokers.

  • @andremation
    @andremation Рік тому +370

    "By this point Billy has dug a hole straight through to China, and is now just oscillating back and forth between the two opposite sides of the Earth"
    Never change Karl, you never disappoint

    • @grimmsoul3096
      @grimmsoul3096 Рік тому +3

      At this point Billy broke gravity, and has dug through space and has hit the moon

    • @BoomShard17
      @BoomShard17 Рік тому +2

      This comment made me laugh lol

  • @DrEcho
    @DrEcho Рік тому +207

    My man pulled the "you're going to love this" instead of the usual "I really hope you enjoy." The savagery is on full display and I'm here for it 🔥

    • @DrEcho
      @DrEcho Рік тому +7

      More like "red joystick of truth" am I right or correct? 😂

  • @darkreyule
    @darkreyule Рік тому +1820

    The best speed runs lately are when we all click on when Karl posts a Billy Mitchell video

  • @socalkylex
    @socalkylex Рік тому +1150

    Karl’s level of focused hate would be the envy of Palpatine himself. Billy fucked with the wrong dude

    • @drunkclover1233
      @drunkclover1233 Рік тому +219

      Billy sent him multiple lawsuits in an attempt to silence him and make him go broke if Karl wasn't angry at him for that I would be very surprised.

    • @YETTheShow
      @YETTheShow Рік тому +9

      Social - you hit the nail right on the head.

    • @aliinlondon
      @aliinlondon Рік тому +2

      Indeed 😅

    • @ihatemegatron216
      @ihatemegatron216 Рік тому +19

      Spite is an incredible motivator.

    • @bucketslash11
      @bucketslash11 Рік тому +35

      Karl will avenge Apollo Legend

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement Рік тому +74

    10:33 Billy's lawyer knowing where this is going and trying to shut it down, only to go silent with disappointment as Billy falls for it and answers is beautiful.

  • @jjba3553
    @jjba3553 Рік тому +663

    I didn’t know there were people who still believed Billy. That’s the most shocking thing in this whole video

    • @kirglow4639
      @kirglow4639 Рік тому +10

      Hopefully "still" doesn't last much longer. I mean, if those guys saw Karl's videos, it'd be hard to deny their mistakes

    • @fulltimeslackerii8229
      @fulltimeslackerii8229 Рік тому

      they do it to be contrarian for views

    • @IRGhost0
      @IRGhost0 Рік тому +36

      People believe in religions and those have all been shown to be primitive nonsense.. when people believe in lies, you can’t convince them otherwise.

    • @Sin_City_Assassin
      @Sin_City_Assassin Рік тому +10

      @@kirglow4639that vanburen guy just made a video shitting on the fake evidence plaque video

    • @littlered6340
      @littlered6340 Рік тому +2

      Same. I'm shocked. By FAR the most surprising part.

  • @kay_faraday
    @kay_faraday Рік тому +206

    his fall being because of a joystick when we all know he cheated is honestly kind of silly. Like a dark lord tripping over a pebble and breaking his neck.

    • @VeraTheTabbynx
      @VeraTheTabbynx Рік тому

      The biggest crime boss of prohibition was put away on tax evasion charges. A more obvious hole is easier to use than a deeper one.

    • @dafonkphenomenal7752
      @dafonkphenomenal7752 Рік тому +11

      As we say in France, " Devil is in the details "

    • @Taolan8472
      @Taolan8472 Рік тому +15

      It's like with any other form of cheating, it's all about evidence.
      They had incontrovertible evidence he was playing on non-standard, non-original hardware. And they have him, on the record, professing he did not play on non-original hardware.
      None of his supporters can effectively argue this.

    • @tjenadonn6158
      @tjenadonn6158 Рік тому +10

      Al Capone going to jail for tax evasion.

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT Рік тому +21

      They have other evidence, but it's a lot more technical and there's a risk a jury wouldn't understand it properly. But "black joystick = original hardware, red joystick = not original" is so simple that it'll be the strongest evidence at convincing the jury. That's why it's important.

  • @TheCheat420
    @TheCheat420 Рік тому +361

    "I woulda ran away from it if it were something different."
    The visual of him seeing a red joystick and literally running away screaming is hilarious

    • @LaMarcheFutilé101
      @LaMarcheFutilé101 Рік тому +22

      Billy Mitchell is like Green Lantern except instead of having superpowers he's just fairly good at some video games that went out of production in the previous century.

    • @TheCheat420
      @TheCheat420 Рік тому +26

      @@LaMarcheFutilé101 Billy Mitchell is like Green Lantern in they both had movies come out about them that afterwards made people go "This guy kinda sucks."

    • @LaMarcheFutilé101
      @LaMarcheFutilé101 Рік тому +4

      @@TheCheat420 lol

    • @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63
      @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 Рік тому +4

      The red joystick isn’t real. It can’t hurt you.

    • @himwhoisnottobenamed5427
      @himwhoisnottobenamed5427 Рік тому +1

      @@TheCheat420 Hey hey. Deadpool fixed that.
      On behalf of all Canadians. Thank you Wade Wilson. 🫡

  • @MissusO
    @MissusO Рік тому +165

    The Twin Galaxies lawyer so perfectly executed that Ace Attorney move. You only play with black top? TAKE THAT!

  • @zyxaqc
    @zyxaqc Рік тому +370

    I deeply want to see this trial recreated as an Ace Attorney-style fan-series.

    • @llewelynshingler2173
      @llewelynshingler2173 Рік тому +22

      Use the "Exhausted" lawyer every three minutes?

    • @rvpairofdicethewanderer2383
      @rvpairofdicethewanderer2383 Рік тому +20

      If someone did that, Billy would sue for defamation.
      Remember that Regular Show Creators had to deal with that before? XD

    • @llewelynshingler2173
      @llewelynshingler2173 Рік тому +2

      @@rvpairofdicethewanderer2383 Depict him as a floating head.

    • @djshanz8585
      @djshanz8585 Рік тому +15

      Great idea! I happen to be part of an ace attorney fangame community who have their own engine.. Maybe I could gather some people and make a fangame if my reply gets enough support and interest

    • @Maxutko901
      @Maxutko901 Рік тому +1

      ​@@djshanz8585I would want to see that, it would be amazing see all of that but in Ace Attorney

  • @divinelogik
    @divinelogik Рік тому +602

    Jobst is on a tear with Billy content, and I can't get enough of it.

    • @spizun
      @spizun Рік тому

      All he talks about is milly bitchell I seriously don’t care anymore

    • @vilhjj
      @vilhjj Рік тому +13

      I honestly couldn't care about speed running but this is great

    • @aperson9977
      @aperson9977 Рік тому +7

      Billy in shambles watching it.

    • @ComradeCatpurrnicus
      @ComradeCatpurrnicus Рік тому +1

      He could upload a video exposing this clown every day and I'd watch it. Watching a lying fraud get tangled in all the lies they confidently vomit is always cathartic.

    • @yanliechocki
      @yanliechocki Рік тому +4

      Right? I need more!!!

  • @party4keeps28
    @party4keeps28 Рік тому +159

    The funniest thing about Karl's series is that Billy is most definitely watching every single video, and getting very angry.

    • @liarwithagun
      @liarwithagun Рік тому +12

      Yeah. I wonder how long he is able to stomach the comments dunking on him before he has to force himself away from them.

    • @sreeravi25
      @sreeravi25 Рік тому +8

      @@liarwithagun I am sure Billy is well aware of all the comments and believes in "haters gonna hate" and just carries on with his lying life.

    • @ArbitraryOutcome
      @ArbitraryOutcome Рік тому +8

      He definitely strikes me off as a namesearcher as well.

    • @party4keeps28
      @party4keeps28 Рік тому +6

      @@sreeravi25 Exactly. He not only lies to everyone else, he lies to himself.

    • @CErra310
      @CErra310 Рік тому +3

      ​@@sreeravi25 you think the man who is riding a single achievement from 40 years ago is emotionally mature enough for that? Big if true

  • @jonr9467
    @jonr9467 Рік тому +97

    I love how Billy's lawyer just clarifies the questions instead of spotting the traps and steering him away from them.

    • @PepperDoom
      @PepperDoom Рік тому +10

      Yeah, both billy and his lawyer fkd themselves real good.

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 Рік тому +17

      That's what the lawyer is there to do, keep things clear. The question was not a suitable one, hence why they changed the question. Not defending Billy or his lawyer, just clarifying.

    • @ChillavaKirby
      @ChillavaKirby Рік тому +2

      I kinda get the impression that he was trying to but Billy being Billy would be too eager to start talking about himself before the lawyer could tell him he's an idiot.

    • @jarvy251
      @jarvy251 Рік тому +3

      The questions are not avoidable, he's just trying to keep Billy from perjuring himself more by keeping his answers short and direct.

  • @kirglow4639
    @kirglow4639 Рік тому +802

    Every chance Billy opens his mouth, it's always about how great he is. True sign of a narcissistic pathological liar. Hope he gets undeniably exposed as one

    • @skrounst
      @skrounst Рік тому +41

      Well we all know he is a pathological liar, narcissist. However, it's one thing to know someone is something, and another thing proving it in court. Seeing him exposed publicly in a court of law, because of a lawsuit THAT HE BROUGHT is poetic really.

    • @grimmsoul3096
      @grimmsoul3096 Рік тому +5

      well he did just dig his own grave so deep he hit china, at the rate he is going he might have to break gravity to keep digging to the moon.

    • @JefferyEpstiensBlackBook
      @JefferyEpstiensBlackBook Рік тому

      How does anybody know its not photoshopped? You can't believe everything you see on the internet.

    • @Yewtewba
      @Yewtewba Рік тому +19

      ​@@JefferyEpstiensBlackBookthey don't. But notice how he didn't say he believed the photo to be modified (rather maybe the cabinet itself), because that *can* be proven/disproven with time and money.

    • @Wiiownyou
      @Wiiownyou Рік тому +6

      @@JefferyEpstiensBlackBook The only one who can be proved to be faking evidence in this case atm is Billy with the plaque as far as I know, for such a natural liar he was very confident in saying that was the machine

  • @Sad-Lesbian
    @Sad-Lesbian Рік тому +611

    Billy's lawyer cannot be having a good time. Having your client constantly talk more than they need to is a nightmare.

    • @Ange1ofD4rkness
      @Ange1ofD4rkness Рік тому +46

      If his lawyer was smart, it would cut him off more, or trained him better

    • @SymbioteMullet
      @SymbioteMullet Рік тому +37

      As long as the cheques come through, that lawyer doesn't care what billy says...

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 Рік тому +1

      Isn't he getting paid???

    • @bananewtf5326
      @bananewtf5326 Рік тому +44

      ​@@answeris4217Yes but in this field, your reputation matters more than money. Being completely outmatched and humiliated because of a dishonest client who won't shut up cannot be good for the future of his career

    • @estoylaroca
      @estoylaroca Рік тому +8

      @@bananewtf5326 So how does his client, being a stupid idiot, not following instructions, digging his own hole, matter to his reputation?
      Even if you've got the very best lawyer, only to have your client admit their own crime out of pure stupidity, no amount of legalese would make you win the case.

  • @beatblocksgaming
    @beatblocksgaming Рік тому +70

    This is like having a guy continually falling down stairs but claiming he’s doing a somersault

  • @PPedroFernandes
    @PPedroFernandes Рік тому +502

    "After this lawsuit ends, Billy absolutely needs to become a shovel salesman, because the rate at which he's digging this hole is impressive"
    My god, forget the law suit, you just killed the man ☠️☠️

    • @MauZangetsu
      @MauZangetsu Рік тому +17

      Well at least the grave is ready for that lmao

    • @alexkuhn5188
      @alexkuhn5188 Рік тому +12

      That burn belongs on r/murderedbywords

    • @ZorotheGallade
      @ZorotheGallade Рік тому +11

      Saying he fell for the trap is putting it mildly. He saw the pitfall in front of him, went home to get a shovel, climbed in, dug it to be twice as deep, crawled out, and then jumped right in.

    • @badloop
      @badloop Рік тому +1

      no survivors

    • @monterrang1
      @monterrang1 Рік тому

      *karl was later found guilty for homicide, the judge & jury were like "daaaaaamn"*

  • @marcblanchet678
    @marcblanchet678 Рік тому +143

    man, the fact you stung all his defenders with your previous video is wonderful. watching Billy burn is one thing, all his sycophants burn with him is amazing.

  • @MisterVercetti
    @MisterVercetti Рік тому +402

    At this point in time, I can only imagine that Billy's remaining supporters are either A. gaslighted beyond all redemption, or B. pathological liars just like their hero.

    • @platinumight158
      @platinumight158 Рік тому +8

      He kind of reminds me of DSP in this regard

    • @EgoChip
      @EgoChip Рік тому

      It's more common than you think. Just look at all the people who still support and defend corrupt party politicians, religions and corporations who lie, cheat and steal on a far grander scale. We want to be thankful that Billy isn't involved in politics.

    • @trueredpanda1538
      @trueredpanda1538 Рік тому +4

      Nah, I think most of them is uninformed.

    • @skylark.kraken
      @skylark.kraken Рік тому +1

      It's so funny when uninformed people speak so confidently. It's just sad that they're unlikely to say "I was wrong" they're only going to double down and create a conspiracy

    • @LeNoir679
      @LeNoir679 Рік тому +1

      Does he have supporters at this point?

  • @Kinglink
    @Kinglink 2 місяці тому +8

    It will always amaze me how a lawyer doesn't just yell "Boom !@#$%" as he drops that final evidence. Probably the first thing they teach you at law school, but still. Impressive restraint.

  • @Wallis_2001
    @Wallis_2001 Рік тому +453

    Billy should write a ukulele song about how we’re all lying about him for clout, he’d win the lawsuit for sure.

    • @infamouscheesecake2232
      @infamouscheesecake2232 Рік тому +41

      I'd think for Billy's case, interpretive dance would be the way to go

    • @stellviahohenheim
      @stellviahohenheim Рік тому +22

      ALL ABOARD!

    • @Wallis_2001
      @Wallis_2001 Рік тому +9

      @@infamouscheesecake2232 I've got it. He should write the song and then dance to it. This combo will surely be too powerful to beat

    • @silvertriforce2574
      @silvertriforce2574 Рік тому +8

      He should pretend to kill someone's best friend in front of them as a prank to help rebuild his public image

    • @sapinballwizard
      @sapinballwizard Рік тому +2

      Oh God it's stuck in my head again

  • @resdifer7744
    @resdifer7744 Рік тому +164

    that red joystick needs to be commemorated as the most powerful charm/accessory in gaming history

    • @MikaelNitscheDrums
      @MikaelNitscheDrums Рік тому +13

      "It's dangerous to go alone! Take this."

    • @grabble7605
      @grabble7605 Рік тому +3

      Lmao, let that be his big damn video game legacy if he wants one so much.
      'Red joystick. Illegal contraband. Smells like bull dung.'

    • @MattRose30000
      @MattRose30000 Рік тому +3

      This is gonna pop up as an item in some games for sure.

    • @ItzVioletPanda
      @ItzVioletPanda Рік тому +1

      Joystick of the century

    • @magetsalive5162
      @magetsalive5162 Рік тому +6

      "Red Joystick"
      Type: ACC.
      Effect: +20% Evasion
      "Definitely illegal to use, but it feels so good. Somehow, using it makes you better at dodging. Don't get caught."

  • @Tenshiyo
    @Tenshiyo Рік тому +713

    Karl please make a chronological Billy Mitchell playlist. It'd be really helpful for new viewers and people who wanna rewatch while also kinda flexing on him in spirit 😂

    • @GuranPurin
      @GuranPurin Рік тому +20

      Billy and Todd, they're a package deal.

    • @lonetomfoolery8762
      @lonetomfoolery8762 Рік тому +16

      A fan already made one, look up “The Billy Mitchell Saga”

    • @Tenshiyo
      @Tenshiyo Рік тому +7

      @@lonetomfoolery8762 I'm sure there's more than one playlist that already exists, the point of my suggestion was for Karl to make one himself and host it under the Playlists on his channel.

    • @willybober2
      @willybober2 Рік тому +1

      Phenomenal comment

    • @TitaniumTurbine
      @TitaniumTurbine Рік тому +2

      @@Tenshiyo Ehhhh, Billy has a penchant for suing Karl (3 or 4 times now?)… I don’t know that I would be courageous enough to continue making Billy videos but even then, perhaps there’s a difference in making a playlist of all his Billy videos and it might show some sort of obsessive intent like Billy was claiming. Just a guess, but maybe Karl will after it’s all over.

  • @Emidoki
    @Emidoki Рік тому +57

    "If the stick ain't black, I don't whack." -Billy Mitchell

  • @pappyqc1981
    @pappyqc1981 Рік тому +643

    You know Billy was dying inside as soon as he saw the joystick photo because he immediately starts showing anxiousness through his body language; biting his finger repeatedly and keeping his eyes away from the lawyer, when before he was completely calm and collected.

    • @LibraritheWizardOfficial
      @LibraritheWizardOfficial Рік тому +50

      14:25 is when the payload is delivered, I think that's Billy who says "hm?" a few seconds later, as he starts to realize what he just dug himself into

    • @SuperEarther
      @SuperEarther Рік тому +49

      i could tell from his body language he panicked because his eye movement was going crazy. He was looking for a fault in the picture

    • @35mm21
      @35mm21 Рік тому +40

      Shocking error on his part. There was no reason for him to say that it was the cabinet he played on. It was years ago. All he had to say was he didn't remember if that was the exact cabinet because it was a while ago and it would have been plausible and not provable perjury.

    • @LibraritheWizardOfficial
      @LibraritheWizardOfficial Рік тому +33

      @@35mm21 One of the tactics attorneys -- especially prosecuting attorneys -- will use is to force the liar to use their imagination so much, they can't mentally process the simple question and provide a simple, direct answer. This usually results in them making up and then providing details that weren't requested. Those extra (falsified) details can then be used to hoist them by their own petard, because they're just handing free ammunition (metaphorically speaking) to the enemy.

    • @30000Pigeons
      @30000Pigeons Рік тому

      ​@LibraritheWizardOfficial I noticed that too. I'm pretty sure that was Billy.

  • @kiteracer
    @kiteracer Рік тому +197

    This level of sustained bombardment is honestly impressive. You’re systematically dismantling Billy Mitchell’s entire pathetic career right before our eyes. Well done.

    • @MarcHendry
      @MarcHendry Рік тому +28

      Billy's doing the leg work himself to be fair lol

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones Рік тому +1

      @@MarcHendry 🤣🤣🤣

    • @DM-zh2kt
      @DM-zh2kt Рік тому +2

      I mean, it's his own fault. Instead of accepting he was caught and let all die out, he kicked, bite, and punched his way into the front of all, making everyone stressed over drama and lawsuits for years.

    • @rothauspils123
      @rothauspils123 Рік тому +2

      That's not true. Billy Mitchell was a has been long before Karl or anyone else started calling him out on his lies. You would have a hard time finding someone in their 20s or younger who knows who he is. Hell, I'm an 80's kid and still never heard of him before this whole controversy.
      Fact is, the guy is more successful with his story now that he has ever been. He gets invited to shows, makes videos and gets more attention now than ever. And all of this is making him money.
      If the goal was to get him to lose his world record titles then it was a huge success. But destroying his career? People on social media pretty much don't care if you are the worlds biggest liar, quite contrary, they see it as entertainment. It's the reason why he keeps going despite getting so utterly destroyed. I bet he doesn't even care anymore if he loses the last of his titles. Nowadays you don't need a title to make money, you need a cult following on social media and he is getting that because of people like Karl.

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones Рік тому +1

      @@rothauspils123 That's a based opinion, as the kids say (I'm also an '80s kid). 😁

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 Рік тому +78

    The more this goes on, the more you realize the caricature of Billy in the Regular Show, a literal nasty gigantic head, actually turned out to be a _generous_ portrayal.
    Because at least that version of Billy used original hardware.

    • @NoraDDSM64-py9sd
      @NoraDDSM64-py9sd Рік тому

      I mean, for all we know, Broken Bonez does allow for a score where the last digit is a 1.

  • @miketroj3728
    @miketroj3728 Рік тому +33

    Man, the way he looked away and started looking around the office once he said he never played on anything other than a black top joy stick, is a dead give away.

  • @Mitsunari4Gunz
    @Mitsunari4Gunz Рік тому +88

    The fact that you played his defenders and let them dig their own graves with their words like Billy did, I mean you can't make this shit up. Well played sir.

  • @GhostOfSnuffles
    @GhostOfSnuffles Рік тому +135

    The joystick _was_ black but after Billy gave it his sweet sweet touch it blushed so much it became permanently red.

  • @cathacker13
    @cathacker13 Рік тому +207

    The fact that this guy has people defending him proves that there's always going to be someone trying to defend something no matter how indefensible it is

    • @voidgods
      @voidgods Рік тому

      this is a known strategy for losers. Be the nay-sayer and denier of facts and public opinion, so you can band together with like-minded people - that's the only way they can get some attention for themselves - by disagreeing with logic. Just like flat-earthers.

    • @Lappelduvideify
      @Lappelduvideify Рік тому +5

      Did you see the signed photo hiding in the background of vanburen20? 7:52

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 Рік тому

      @@Lappelduvideify I made fun of that guy at first, but now I am just sad for him.

    • @cathacker13
      @cathacker13 Рік тому

      ​@@LappelduvideifyI haven't noticed that
      That's just sad

    • @МихаилЧалый-щ3ж
      @МихаилЧалый-щ3ж Рік тому

      @@Lappelduvideify yeah and it's just sad. This guy most likely always have seen Billy as an idol and model of a gamer and wanted to be like him. It's really hard to accept that person you idolized for decades (probably this type of time span) is actually a pathological liar and a cheat. So he goes in full denial mode.

  • @SchokoIadenonkel
    @SchokoIadenonkel Рік тому +82

    Watching Karls Billy Mitchell videos is like my guilty pleasure. It's a bit like reality tv with how cringe the whole thing is, but it's also endlessly entertaining and Karls videos on the matter are always just so enjoyable to watch.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower Рік тому

      if you think this is deep.. there is other 'gaming career' streamers who are worse... like dsp, whom now has dozens of creators who laugh and do animated threeD memes and even a podcast pointing out how he has to beg people for tips live every day... That Being Said podcast details the snort burnell and his ebegging 'career' 😂

  • @jeffreystone8974
    @jeffreystone8974 Рік тому +137

    There's something about having ad reads in these videos that just feel like they add an extra layer of disrespect to Billy, and honestly I live for it

    • @rubikmonat6589
      @rubikmonat6589 Рік тому +6

      I listened to it all,and it sounds like decent stuff, unlike Billy.

    • @gabrielabato9939
      @gabrielabato9939 Рік тому +3

      Yea, like not only is he destroying Billy, he's getting sponsored while doing it

  • @Forrestbono
    @Forrestbono Рік тому +470

    Great video, looking forward to the next episode of the Silly Bitchell Saga.

    • @tylerhorn3712
      @tylerhorn3712 Рік тому +1

      Obviously him and his brother in crime (Todd Rodgers) are cheaters. Though, replacing a joystick shouldn't really be a problem. Things break down over time. That being said I get why replacing the "original" with better stuff can invalidate runs. People even care about North American vs European carts because sometimes one has slightly less loading time.

    • @Hotmaildotcomz
      @Hotmaildotcomz Рік тому +2

      ​@tylerhorn3712 eh it was stated in the rules so in reality him using something other than what was allowed is a problem you see?

    • @alexanderblohme5044
      @alexanderblohme5044 Рік тому

      Sweet sweet irony 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @HostileAtHeart
      @HostileAtHeart Рік тому +3

      Bro is using kindergarden insults as a full adult. 🤐
      I don't like Mitchell any more than the next guy btw, but this is just not it, chief.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Рік тому +3

      ​@@tylerhorn3712In Donkey Kong's case, it actually has gameplay implications.
      The OEM joystick is a 4-way stick, so you can't hit diagonals. Hitting the diagonals in Donkey Kong results in unique behavior that a skilled player can use to manipulate the game and make it easier.
      But this only applies to skilled players, not Billy.

  • @SolidShinoda
    @SolidShinoda Рік тому +236

    Gotta be honest, being able to witness Silly Bitchell's fall into shame has been quite a ride. Thank you Mr. Jobst.

    • @LinksQuestResearch
      @LinksQuestResearch Рік тому +5

      @watrbottl6138Karl originally called him that in a video a while ago

    • @MireVale
      @MireVale Рік тому

      He can keep his record as long as his name is officially written as Silly Bitchell

  • @Nerdtendo6366
    @Nerdtendo6366 Рік тому +56

    “Ladies and Gentlemen, we got Him”
    The red joystick being such an easy game breaker was incredible to see unfold

  • @JosiahBradley
    @JosiahBradley Рік тому +78

    He can't be bargained with, he can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity! Or remorse or fear and he absolutely will not stop lying until we are dead...

    • @antbojo
      @antbojo Рік тому

      It's been a while. Is that a Borg reference from TNG?

    • @Hiddenronin
      @Hiddenronin Рік тому +11

      @@antbojo The Terminator

    • @stevensmith8876
      @stevensmith8876 Рік тому +3

      Best comment in a long while!

  • @thefongz2931
    @thefongz2931 Рік тому +357

    I dated a pathological liar once for three years. It was an absolute emotional rollercoaster, exactly because you just don't want to believe that such a thing could exist. Surely a human being would not lie about this stuff; would not pile lie upon lie; sometimes lying to get out of other lies and sometimes lying for no reason at all, just because that's what they do. Stepping back from it, you want to feel sorry for these people - they really do have a pathological problem. On the other hand, fuck that shit I never want it anywhere near me again so long as I live.

    • @CleoKawisha-sy5xt
      @CleoKawisha-sy5xt Рік тому +11

      liar.

    • @wetsox278
      @wetsox278 Рік тому +44

      you have my sympathy. I had the misfortune of sharing a house with one. In the video they summed it up perfectly. Lying for them is like breathing for us. They do it with zero effort, and there is no remorse for their actions. They don't care what their lies do to others. It's like their lying to you somehow empowers them.

    • @mobiusraptor7
      @mobiusraptor7 Рік тому +15

      @@wetsox278 It's interesting that something as innocent as video games opens a conversation regarding the nature of narcissists. Anyways, both of you have my sympathies.

    • @wetsox278
      @wetsox278 Рік тому

      @@mobiusraptor7 even though it happened decades ago now, it is still hard not to be effected and scarred by these types of people. I have never seen him again, nor do I have any desire to. I'd be willing to bet he is probably sitting in a jail cell somewhere. The fact that he had no remorse in stealing other peoples money, and wrecking others lives, I doubt he would have stopped at credit card fraud. He was the sort of person who would have felt justified in his actions.
      I think the most damaging part of his acquaintance is that you forever doubt your ability to judge peoples intentions, because of their ability to make a lie sound like the truth.

    • @TwighlightPrince1
      @TwighlightPrince1 Рік тому +3

      I wish you the best going forward friend. May life bring better people into your life

  • @e-conrecords4665
    @e-conrecords4665 Рік тому +180

    Billy painted himself into a corner years ago but being a narcissist & a pathological liar, he is literally unable to come clean… which I’m surprised he hasn’t claimed insanity at this point because that’s exactly what it is to keep lying as he is.

    • @karloveliki5373
      @karloveliki5373 Рік тому +6

      Isn't it obvious he's just milking this? This situation is literally what rose him to quasi-fame all those years ago and he's just afraid of becoming unimportant

    • @TrackpadProductions
      @TrackpadProductions Рік тому +8

      The insanity defence is an affirmative defense; it requires the defendant to admit guilt.

    • @redacted2275
      @redacted2275 Рік тому +1

      If you think his ego allows him to be portrait as "insane", you're naive.

    • @redacted2275
      @redacted2275 Рік тому +2

      ​@@karloveliki5373No, I think he really doesn't want to lose whatever these records bring or mean to him. And now he's losing both records and if this gets to a point that "The King of Kong" will be forced to be reedited, for example, then you'll see Mitchell's ego breaking down.

    • @AdaptiveApeHybrid
      @AdaptiveApeHybrid Рік тому

      ​@@redacted2275would you elaborate on this please

  • @blakena4907
    @blakena4907 Рік тому +51

    16:24 "The only reason these Karls-the only reasons these pictures exist..." got me laughing. I guess we know where their minds are 😂

  • @ClockworkGearhead
    @ClockworkGearhead Рік тому +420

    _"It didn't happen._
    _And if it did, he didn't mean to._
    _And if he meant to, then it wasn't a big deal._
    _And if it was a big deal, then he deserved to do it."_
    -BM's defenders

    • @catboygremlin
      @catboygremlin Рік тому +48

      ah, yes, the narcissist's prayer

    • @MrBollocks10
      @MrBollocks10 Рік тому

      It seems like they are trying to get out of it.
      Does it matter what color it is?

    • @Voskos
      @Voskos Рік тому

      That's from the shaclone video wow

    • @DonVigaDeFierro
      @DonVigaDeFierro Рік тому +1

      Real Donkey Kong cabinets with 8-axis controllers have never been tried...

    • @lucinavonnolaran8728
      @lucinavonnolaran8728 Рік тому +21

      @MrBollocks10 Just in case this isn't a troll, the color of the joystick absolutely matters. The Donkey Kong arcade cabinet comes with either a blacktop or whitetop joystick, indicating 4 possible directions a player can be controlled in. A red joystick, as Billy says during his deposition if I'm not mistaken, indicates the ability to control the character in 8 directions. Since the Donkey Kong cabinet comes with a 4 directional joystick, this means that the red one is indicative of modified hardware instead of original hardware, which is what Twin Galaxies is attempting to prove.

  • @bigjeff
    @bigjeff Рік тому +490

    "In a way that doesn't startle the cornered animal" Karl is delivering a commentary masterclass

    • @Wanderlust1972
      @Wanderlust1972 Рік тому +4

      Karl has huge biceps that dude is buff

    • @JeffreyOnly
      @JeffreyOnly Рік тому +3

      "at this point Billy has allready dug himself to China" got me

  • @OneUponADime
    @OneUponADime Рік тому +175

    It wasnt about ‘huurrrr durrrrr the joystick was red!’ It was about proving that Billy is lying.

    • @ParadigmZwei
      @ParadigmZwei Рік тому +47

      It is about both actually, as regardless of whether or not Billy tells the truth about the whole situation, any record set on that machine is still illegitimate because of the red stick.

    • @coffeedude
      @coffeedude Рік тому +18

      The red joystick is also an 8 way model so it is important

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a Рік тому +4

      "Hurr Durr the joystick was red!"
      You're right Milly's Bitchells, it's just a red stick.
      Well, that and the King of Kong footage clearly showing that score was achieved on Mame...
      And the Arcade board swaps...
      And the fact that Twin Galaxies specifically requires you to play on original unmodified hardware...
      And the fact that for years Mitchell said there was no way the cabinet was modified...
      And probably several more that I can't be bothered to remember

  • @oicfas4523
    @oicfas4523 Рік тому +80

    The lawyer really should have had him confirm there was only one machine at the convention. Otherwise he could claim, "There must have been another machine with original hardware, because that's what I remember it being."

    • @onikoneko
      @onikoneko Рік тому +39

      Then the burden of proof is on him to demonstrate 1) That there were two nearly identical machines there, 2) That the second, unseen machine had legitimate hardware, 3) That the second, unseen machine was the one he used despite the recording equipment being set up on the machine in the photo, and 4) That he was lying when he said, under oath, that the machine in the photo was the one he played on.

    • @thejoeker8439
      @thejoeker8439 Рік тому +4

      @@onikonekothere are also witnesses such as the event organiser (I think she is, or else just heavily involved, she gave a witness statement that Billy finished his high score in like 20 or so mins) who can corroborate that since they had a hand in the event itself and would likely remember

    • @Takerial
      @Takerial Рік тому +16

      Even when it was revealed the joystick was red, he didn't deny that it was the machine. Just that someone must have changed the joystick. So he's not denying it's the machine at all.

    • @mikemck4796
      @mikemck4796 Рік тому +5

      He didn’t actually say it’s the one he played on. He responded “that looks like it’s it.”
      While those who don’t like Billy (I am in that group) hear the statement one way, it’s technically not a clear answer.

    • @oicfas4523
      @oicfas4523 Рік тому +1

      @@onikoneko Not really. It would be up to whoever decides the facts (although he/she or they would likely decide against Billy on that point). The lawyer deposing him could have just avoided that whole issue by doing what I suggested.

  • @dfx81
    @dfx81 Рік тому +102

    Billy is like a one hit wonder, known for only one hit, except the hit is not even his.

    • @konipunchline
      @konipunchline Рік тому +21

      Billy Vanilli

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Рік тому +7

      His one hit was being the first to play a perfect game of Pac-Man (which he then ruined by trying to conflate his Pac-Man award with his nepotistic "Video Game Player of the Century" award his friends gave him as part of his ad campaign).
      Pretty much everything involving the Donkey Kong franchise did turn out to be stolen except the free advertising he got on The King of Kong that probably boosted his hot sauce to millions who'd never heard of him before.

    • @Jobadon
      @Jobadon Рік тому

      incredible

    • @BabaJeez
      @BabaJeez Рік тому +2

      @@autobotstarscream765 The Pac-Man score is most likely fake as well.

    • @GazerPlur420
      @GazerPlur420 Рік тому +4

      ​@konipunchline3269 Too bad only older people will get that gem of a comment. 😂

  • @Zorgdub
    @Zorgdub Рік тому +173

    Twin Galaxies lawyer: asks a hypothetical leading question
    BM's laywer: objects and state that they don't have to answer hypothetical questions
    BM: answers the question anyways

    • @marcolino0001
      @marcolino0001 Рік тому +36

      In a deposition, lawyers can object, but they still need to answer the question. The judge will later decide if that testimony comes in at trial.

    • @tinkerer3399
      @tinkerer3399 Рік тому +22

      Worse than that.
      BM's Lawyer: *rephrases the question in a way that causes more damage*

    • @pizzlerot2730
      @pizzlerot2730 Рік тому +4

      That's how depositions work, the person being deposed still needs to answer the question. When it comes to the trial and the question of whether to admit that part of the testimony into evidence comes up, that's when the judge makes the decision on the objection and whether or not to strike the question and testimony.

  • @RuthlessMojo
    @RuthlessMojo Рік тому +86

    Billy is stuck in an 80’s arcade time loop. In this loop 1000’s of Billy clones enthusiastically cheer him on, telling him that he’s the video game player of the century. In the entire multiverse. Even alternate versions of Billy can’t beat him.

  • @ChanceDiego
    @ChanceDiego Рік тому +21

    If Billy knew anything about human behavior he would’ve known the lawyer showed his hand during questioning. He was fumbling his words and asking him questions in a manner consistent as filler questions

  • @Steambull1
    @Steambull1 Рік тому +91

    There's something funny about questions like "Isn't it true, Mr. Mitchell, that you played that machine on an 8-way joystick?" and that there's actually a lot at stake with the subject.

    • @liarwithagun
      @liarwithagun Рік тому +11

      It is funny. It is the type of super cheesy thing a terrible movie, like Birdemic, would try and do in a serious way but utterly fail at and just come across as super cringy.
      Yet here it actually comes across as super serious and not cringy at all with potentially millions of dollars on the line here.

    • @rgerber
      @rgerber Рік тому +5

      now which pokemon were you carrying in your inventory at that specific moment? were they green or yellow?

    • @Nightenstaff
      @Nightenstaff Рік тому +9

      For Donkey Kong, it's actually quite a big deal -- but you gotta *really* know what's going on in high level Donkey Kong play to understand. The TL;DR on the subject as I understand it is this: Any type of joystick can manipulate how the barrels come down the screen (called steering) past L5, but only an eight way stick can do it while actively climbing up/down a ladder. It doesn't seem like a big advantage, but when you're hardcore point pressing, it can make a tremendous difference.

    • @MenachemSchmuel
      @MenachemSchmuel Рік тому

      14:52 watching him squirm is really cathartic

    • @darkhobo
      @darkhobo Рік тому +4

      ​@@rgerberyou're saying you wouldn't remember your own WORLD RECORD. Come on now man. Just accept the dude is a huckster. Let go of the Sunk Cost.

  • @cosmicslushynetwork
    @cosmicslushynetwork Рік тому +208

    I lived with a pathological liar for 3 years, when Billy drops flat about what he says about it being black, it's the same way my roommate wouldn't admit to having lied about something.

    • @skeletorthebest7204
      @skeletorthebest7204 Рік тому +11

      my condolences

    • @ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
      @ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 Рік тому +1

      Billy has a lot of financial incentive to keep his lie going though. We don't really have any basis to claim he's a pathological lier.

    • @bschuma1
      @bschuma1 Рік тому +22

      The Narcissist's Prayer:
      That didn't happen.
      And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
      And if it was, that's not a big deal.
      And if it is, that's not my fault.
      And if it was, I didn't mean it.
      And if I did, you deserved it

    • @mk_gamíng0609
      @mk_gamíng0609 Рік тому +3

      @@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 Does he tho?
      By keeping on going, hes gonna lose a lot more by the end of it

    • @Vykk_Draygo
      @Vykk_Draygo Рік тому +3

      @@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 You mean aside from the pathological lying?

  • @ryanendoh8750
    @ryanendoh8750 Рік тому +32

    This saga is sooooooo entertaining. Your relentless pursuit of truth is awesome.

  • @sammurphy3343
    @sammurphy3343 Рік тому +55

    The way they let him incriminate himself without him knowing was beautiful lol

  • @reaper84
    @reaper84 Рік тому +209

    Karl switched the joystick over 20 years ago. He must have planned this all along. 😆

    • @JazzTheLass
      @JazzTheLass Рік тому +7

      obviously he's a time traveller

    • @Swaycos
      @Swaycos Рік тому +5

      Ah, yes. Playing the long game.

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 Рік тому

      Vanburen20 is in the house I see. ;)

    • @Swaycos
      @Swaycos Рік тому

      @@eriklarson9137 Are we gonna be famous? :o

    • @mt2r-music
      @mt2r-music Рік тому +3

      @@JazzTheLassimagine actually being able to travel in time and suing people you don’t like to get money out of them by placing fake evidence in the 90s. That would be genius.

  • @gabriellea7124
    @gabriellea7124 Рік тому +109

    I don’t usually actively root for someone to fail but it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to see this man get what’s coming to him.

    • @dansbigfanguitarist
      @dansbigfanguitarist Рік тому +5

      Watching someone fail at being an absolute fraud is the best kind of failure

  • @redtheslayer
    @redtheslayer Рік тому +89

    Karl slowly becoming a criminal investigation channel due to this Billy Bitchell case is amazing

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones Рік тому +6

      "CSI: Jobst."

    • @htpkey
      @htpkey Рік тому +1

      Waiting for the "Karl Can't Swim" channel rename

    • @redtheslayer
      @redtheslayer Рік тому

      @@htpkey that was almost what I originally commented LMAO

  • @15xv
    @15xv Рік тому +14

    hilarious point karl - the funniest part is that we've known its fake for years based on the mame gameplay, and yet there are people willing to ignore that

  • @chrisandme23
    @chrisandme23 Рік тому +19

    "I've never played on anything but a black top" *closes eyes* - *looks down* - *looks at lawyer* - *noticeably tenses up*

  • @MikeSaltzman
    @MikeSaltzman Рік тому +87

    The lawyer was able to trick him 'Because the lawyer is smart... And Billy is... Well, Billy.'
    Classic.

    • @jasonoutman420
      @jasonoutman420 Рік тому +1

      That's going to be my favorite phrase for awhile

  • @username5155
    @username5155 Рік тому +97

    Every single time I watch one of these videos, I always manage to come up with better lies than Billy, like “Oh, they had the joystick replaced and swapped in an original for me to play with”, but no, it’s just “They must have changed it for the photo”

    • @tigerofdoom
      @tigerofdoom Рік тому +6

      Yeah, if the lies were better, this wouldn't be so stupid

    • @Helladamnleet
      @Helladamnleet Рік тому +21

      Better yet:
      "Is this the cabinet in the photo?"
      "No"

    • @MoneyManHolmes
      @MoneyManHolmes Рік тому +4

      I think it’s reasonable that a person could “misremember” a color after 15 years. The main question is does the red stick give an unfair advantage? Just the fact that it’s noticeably taller should disqualify the run (which was likely faked anyway).

    • @schorltourmaline4521
      @schorltourmaline4521 Рік тому +19

      @@MoneyManHolmes Yes, and eight way joystick (the red one) gives an advantage over a 4 way joystick (the black one). The 4 way does not allow you to move diagonally like an 8way. On a four way, you first would have to jump by pushing up, then switch the control to left or right, giving at least a moment of delay between motions, while the 8way lets you do both motions at once. It is an incredible advantage, which is why using the original hardware is so important when it comes to the records.

    • @logeymusic
      @logeymusic Рік тому

      @@MoneyManHolmes that and 4-way vs 8-way directionals

  • @N_0_I_Z_E
    @N_0_I_Z_E Рік тому +29

    Justice for Apollo Legend who tragically took his own life because Billy Mitchell sued him

    • @liam6170
      @liam6170 Рік тому +8

      I hope billy goes into debt for what he did to Karl and Apollo even having the nerve to say I will try my hardest not to giggle at the idea of Apollo being dead and even trying to lie about it

  • @pavelvenediktov4049
    @pavelvenediktov4049 Рік тому +84

    "People don't realize how much of a pathological liar he is."
    I think you make a really good point here. We recently had a similarish case in France, of a very famous writer specialized in criminology faking his entire stories and career. When he got uncovered, he apologized and said he couldn't help it while being caught in a spirale of lies. Billy really better go for that type of decency...

  • @ronnier.4522
    @ronnier.4522 Рік тому +39

    I LOVE your videos on Silly Bitchell! I don't want them to ever end! Your research is outstanding. When you are sarcastic in the intros to some of the videos, your comedic timing is flawless. Thank you for so much pleasure!!

  • @DMKandilo
    @DMKandilo Рік тому +67

    An interesting lesson about pathological, narcissist liars I've learned from following both this Billy Mitchell saga and the Tommy Tallarico story, is how these people build up their own image by mixing together different stories and half-truths into tall tale lies. How Tommy bought himself 2 Guiness world records, but has 7 certificates for them because of updated wordings, so he fabricated it into being 7 distinct world records. Or how he played a streamed concert with allegedly several hundred thousand viewers, and he played an entirely different concert in the Beijing Olympic stadium, so he fabricated the two into being one world-record breaking live concert at that famous stadium. Billy Mitchell talked Namco into handing him some plaque about his alleged world record game, and on an entirely separate occasion, his own buddy named him Gamer of the Century. But he just fabricated these two into being the same event, where Namco named him Gamer of the Century. It's always the same mechanism. Take one half-truth, mix it with another half-truth to make it more prestigious, then bring it up as often as you can so people just unquestioningly believe it. Because if you say something so often and with such matter of factly assuredness, then it must be true, right?
    That and how these frauds always find low-level UA-camrs who defend them with off the cuff stream-of-consciousness rants in front of their tiny audience.

  • @IsaRat89
    @IsaRat89 Рік тому +20

    Dude, we need a Billy Mitchell playlist of the century so I can binge is style

  • @EvilAng3la
    @EvilAng3la Рік тому +20

    This whole thing is also a great demonstration of two things related to legal questioning. First, a lawyer almost never asks a question unless they *already know the answer*. So they asked him this specifically to catch him in a lie. Second, when a lawyer asks you a question, answer that question as specifically as possible. Don't volunteer more information - as Billy does here, which only digs his hole even further.
    Finally, it's impressive how thoroughly Todd Togers and Billy Mitchell have managed to really help Twin Galaxies improve their reputation.

  • @legendarywiimaster
    @legendarywiimaster Рік тому +270

    Billy didn’t just dig his own grave, he built the entire cemetery

    • @hossalvarado3838
      @hossalvarado3838 Рік тому +12

      and also made a statue of him self holding an arcade cabinet over his head just like Link when he found an item.
      but the smelly part about the statue is that its made of cow dung.

    • @theyamo7219
      @theyamo7219 Рік тому +11

      He also spoke his own Eulogy

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 Рік тому +6

      @@theyamo7219 And he used autotune.

    • @alaistairhamilton8838
      @alaistairhamilton8838 Рік тому +1

      When digging a hole for yourself, it is never going to be an enriching experience, but never choose a metaphorical JCB with which to do it!

    • @MomMom4Cubs
      @MomMom4Cubs Рік тому +1

      A real overachiever!

  • @sanera9536
    @sanera9536 Рік тому +162

    That Twin Galaxy lawyer must've kept thinking to himself, "no! I can't laugh yet! I've gotta hold it in!"

    • @IdentifiantE.S
      @IdentifiantE.S Рік тому +4

      😂

    • @hugovanwanghe7645
      @hugovanwanghe7645 Рік тому +10

      when he was asking about the red joystick, he sounded like he was having a really good time

    • @m1xxx3r
      @m1xxx3r Рік тому +3

      Gotta give it to them for keeping composure knowing how f*cked Billy is, I haven't seen such court destruction since Alex Jones' cross examination. This lawyer would be top notch poker player

  • @MatecaCorp
    @MatecaCorp Рік тому +37

    Watching Billy perjure himself was so unbelievably uncomfortable. I love it.