For the sin about the Asylum's sign having a sub-sign to warn of escaped patients, one should note that real jails and prisons have these signs on the nearby roads as well because; yeah, people escape every now and again. Having the sign doesn't actually indicate a high escape ratio, it indicates that the states learned their lesson from stories in previous generations of criminals escaping through various means and using the fake story of being a hitchhiker to enlist unwitting motorists into helping them get further away from the holding facility.
I distinctly remember seeing a few in New Vegas as well that had the vault boy on them. Blew my mind as a child as that was the first time I saw a sign like that
I was getting ready to make this comment because yeah these signs exist outside of every prison I've ever driven by. Guess they might as well not have those prisons though if they need a sign out front!
12:53 The chances are, knowing the inmates in Arkham, the staff wouldn't want their names being known by said inmates, deciding to let the inmates know what their job is.
Exactly, especially in one of the comics when one of the psychologists name was known by an inmate, the inmate had stalked her and knew everything about her then planned on killing her.
Also considering the Harley Quinn patient interview tapes, Joker knew her name from her tag and used that to manipulate her, they most likely didn’t want that to happen again so they changed all name tags to just say their profession.
On top of the part about the "Hitchhiker's may be escaping patients part" that's actually true, prisons and mental institutions literally have those signs, doesn't mean they have bad security, just chances of that happening
If Cinemasins owned a prison, they would have this hubris that they think they have created the most secure prison in history and think that escaping it would be impossible. Only for them to get suprised when that statement gets proven wrong. And then they realise that their mistake is a cliche trope that happened in cartoons and give themselves a sin.
Not even the best asylum in the world would admit to be infallible, similar to the best basketball star, or the best writer or chef The first step in being the best of something is admitting you could improve
EXACTLY! It's one thing if you don't like Bruce's backstory, but it feels like in this moment he forgot that death, losing loved ones, and trauma are things that actually happen in real life and aren't made-up cliches for fictional stories.
1:05:29. Finally someone said it. I'm tired of everyone bashing on the death of Thomas and Martha Wayne. If anyone lost their parents like that in front of their eyes, of course they wouldn't just get over it. I'm sick of that critique of the character. Batman's whole mission is to make sure it doesn't happen
I’ve watched his Cinema Sins Videos and after he Bashed 2015 Cinderella I’ve since stopped watching his stuff but I’ve never heard him sound so Cold and Cruel
It's like the Uncle Ben critique with Spider-Man. Some people (particularly the "nobody wants to see Uncle Ben die again" people) act like we're reminded of him every time Spider-Man gets a movie. But at most, we've only seen him twice on screen (the Tobey Maguire Uncle Ben, and Andrew Garfield Uncle Ben.) And I think he was name dropped In the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies.
Also there are no name tags on the doctors uniforms because if the patients knew their names it would put them in more danger than just working in the asylum and would give the patients a name to hunt down.
But it's pointless cuz they say their names in tbe begining of the audio tapes when they have session with the patients , that's how Zsasz knew about Dr.Cassidy which he then went to her appartment and kidnapped her and tried to kill her before Batman stopped him and saved her.
@@ceoofbased6850 maybe it was that incident that made them stop using their names? Who knows, def sounds like one of those "learn from your mistakes" things
Exactly. In real life, some prisons have their guards wear masks when working near inmates like drug lords and terrorists, with the reach to have someone on the outside targeted. In a universe with supervillains, you bet your ass they'd keep the staff anonymous.
50:00 I always rationalized this as Batman talking to himself in his head, like his conscious. It'd be pretty stupid to vocalize all these things in a situation like that where anyone could be listening. It also makes sense in why he points out obvious things. They're not general statements, they're footnotes he's giving himself.
They actually do this in Arkham Knight. If you pay attention to him when hes narrating(for example panessa studios with the bat mobile) his mouth won’t be moving
Batman: Hmm i can hop on the gargoyles and take the thugs out without them seeing me Thug: hey did anyone hear something? Lets check the gargoyles. Gasp its da freakin bat!
Absolutely right. I don't know how anyone would think otherwise. He's a detective doing detective work. Of course he's going to be monologuing in his head.
That actually happens every time in the Arkham games, when he's monologuing like that and see his face he's not moving his mouth (also happens with other characters in the other games), but obviously when he's talking to someone else he is moving it (and it has surprising lip sync considering a good chunk of players don't even look at Batman's face during those conversations)
Yes, it is a unique aspect of Arkham Asylum, that is never replicated, save for some brief isolated sections. It plays up the gothic nature of the Batman mythos, and traps you in complete chaos with mentally unstable criminals. That is a horrifying scenario. The game often conveys a tone and atmosphere of subtle horror (which becomes more explicit in the Scarecrow sections, and the Killer Croc segment).
Killer Croc is one of the only times I've ever had a nightmare as an adult. This game does such a good job at being a horror game when it wants to, both for you and for the enemies.
43:12 you are correct on both things. Flash bangs (concussion grenade is the same thing essentially) we’re made in the 60’s by British Forces, and also Batman’s explosive gel does exist. It’s called water gel explosives. Only irl they are far more deadly but it’s not far fetched to believe Batman chemically engineered it to be less lethal.
Ik it's a yr old comment but yeah judging by his mass amount of money, willingness to not kill and intelligence yeah it's make sense he could easily do that
I'm late but I gotta disagree. They're real things yeah but they're still explosives. If you blow one of them up in your hand or worse, in your face, it's gonna do a lot of damage. Disfiguring to lethal damage. Joker at minimum should have received severe damage from that, Titan or not. And Batman should be one hand down at minimum too. Look it up if you're skeptical, you're right to be. they're only non lethal at range; point blank and they're as deadly as any explosive
@@alucardo2961 Some years back, I couldn't find what exactly happened, there's an archive channel though. ua-cam.com/channels/uiWQ0pxMNOJXnbYeUW-4SA.html
And my god i've never heard you rage this hard, i love it. Also Rest in Peace to your grandpa, I understand what you and your family are going through since my mom died when i was about 11. So sorry to hear about that
@@shamblezer1089 My condolences. I lost my dad a little over a year ago to cancer that came out of nowhere. It's still hard to this day. I definitely understand what he and you are going through.
About the fact that the doctor's tag only says "doctor": beside being an easy way to reuse an asset for multiple characters, it is in canon a great way for the inmates to not know your name. In real life, it is advised to not put your full name on your "name tag" if you work in the medical field, so the patients won't be able to find you on social media, etc. Here, in Arkham, it would also allowed the doctors to reveal their name and exact profession only when they want to and to who they need to. Not every inmate has to know their last name, only the ones they are working with.
The sin about Batman not bringing more gadgets is a not uncommon one that completely misses how necessary it is from a reality standpoint. Batman can't carry everything he owns. He has a base loadout because carrying too much risks weighing him down too much. He could have heavier armor plating, but it would reduce his agility and speed. Batman has to be achieve a balance between being prepared for anything and actually having only what he needs. Which is why he has an arsenal in the Batmobile and satellite Batcaves. No matter where he goes in Gotham, he can still have close access to an armory that will have what he can't carry at all times. It'd be really convenient to have a tool chest and array of basic automotive supplies in your car at all times, but most people don't so that they can have space to carry groceries or whatever. Same principle.
To add to your point about batman not being able to carry all his gadgets, alfred asks batman in Arkham city if he considered using a bigger belt. Batman says he used one once but it slowed him down due to its weight
11:38 it's also worth noting that Tunnel Vision is a thing, people get focused in one direction, so even if something should appear in their peripheral vision, it doesn't register (I for one would always get so focused on reading and listning to tunes between classes at college that my lecturers could get right in front of me before I even noticed, which is why I sat outside the room the next class would be)
9:52 Batman’s Detective Mode is kind of a mix of a lot of things. X-Ray, Heat Specs, Night Vision, Thermal, and like you said, somewhat sonar based. It’s a little mix of all of these. But the thing it is most is definitely something that would be amazing for the military.
One thing to point out, not all staff that work in prisons/mental institutions are trained to defend themselves. As someone who's worked in corrections and in a hospital setting, I can attest to this. Medical staff *might* have incredibly basic training to defend *themselves*, but likely no training to defend others. There is a difference. Also, medical staff is usually prevented, by policy, to intervene in a physically violent situation and would leave that sort of thing to security staff. Yes, I know that this situation is something out of the norm, but the orderly that saved the guard probably would have had no idea how to fight Joker, and/or would have been too scared
Detective mode is explained in Arkham Knight. It uses a mix of sonar, and a sort of Bluetooth system which detects electronics. Along with Batman having thermal imaging lenses which I assume are contact lenses much like in the new Batman movie. Through that sonar it can also detect heartbeats. I’m sure the devs didn’t care about the science, but I assume they can tell through the sonar interference of hitting someone’s body and having the sound waves be partially dampened. If you don’t know, opposite directional sound waves will cancel each other’s sound. Being hooked up to the bat computer he can get his enemies stress levels and life signs with the sonar as well
you’d think Harley would know how to get into the control room, considering she used to work at the asylum. She’d probably have codes to the security system.
So I'm currently getting a B.A. in History, and one thing we spend a lot of time with last semester was being able to understand which texts were written independently, and which use another text as inspiration or outright plagiarize those, and I think it's funny that here you can see this, in how some of the exact same "sins" repeat, like the Harley concussion sin, and the Joker Party thugs all having "the same voice actor" where you can clearly see that one is based on and heavily draws upon the other. And they call Arkham Asylum unoriginal for taking inspiration from other works? EDIT: oh and how could I forget the sexist Harley Lapdance Sin, and the Dark Knight Reference Sin also repeating..
They think that they're being clever and funny by listing these things,but all they're doing is repeating the same things the others said with slight differences.It's like a chain of parrots repeating each other,but they all have minor hearing problems,so they hear it a little bit different each time.
One thing i love about Arkham is when the Goons talk about Harley or interact with her. Some of them try to hit on her while the others are more terrified of her than they are of Joker. It always felt like A call out of people obsessed with Harley and make shitty critiques like "hur hur lap dance funny."
I love videos of people refuting the “game sin” list type videos. It makes me realize all the more why i personally hate them after what GCN did to my Nier Automata
That “hitch hikers may be escaping patients” is a real sign. It’s not really because they will get away and space but It’s more so for the safety of the person picking them up. Most physicopaths or lunatics act being a normal charming person and anyone picking them up are just having their guard down letting a deranged killer in their car
I think it is fair to say it would be hard for Bruce to secretly build a Batcave on Arkham Island since he owns Wayne Manor and the Studios while he would have to hide all of the construction and moving stuff like the computer would be hard but not impossible for Batman to smuggle stuff into the cave. Also Stagg was the one who made the fear gas be able to pass through gas masks which was told in the research note.
I love how he complains about the "Hitchhikers maybe escaping inmates" sign completely ignoring the fact that there are signs on roads like that around prisons all over the world. He could make the point that putting such a sign right at the entrance of the prison is redundant, but sinning the fact that it is there and claiming "Well, I guess security is just bad." is such a dumb remark. Some of the most secure Super Max Prisons in the U.S. (which are basically inescapable) still have these signs to warn passing drivers that they shouldn't pick up any hitchhikers for even the slight chance that someone may possibly escape.
This is my favorite game of all time. I’ve been playing this game with my nana since it came out, and I’ve been helplessly addicted ever since. I cannot thank you enough for consistently itching this corner of my brain.
Also with the batcave thing. He literally has to jump off of a cliff to reach it. The only other way is a vent in the sewers that would be incredibly hard to find in the first place. Also no one knew about it, even Oracle didn't
So I remember when I was a kid and got to the 3rd scarecrow segment. That “crash” might as well have given me a heart attack. I had just replaced my 360 as my first one got the red ring of death. So the fear that this new Xbox was dying too scared me
14:55 There I can really agree with you because I thought the third bodybag would be a dead Bruce joining his parents in their fate so the jumpscare with Scarecrow was so well done.
Let’s go! I love this little series you have here. Watched these Asylum videos specifically first growing up so I am happy you get to tear them to shreds. Nice birthday present if I do say so myself.
I love this video. I'm wary of Cinema Sins inspired videos due to nitpicks, and I have to say the first one was downright insulting. Lord knows, I find Sonic 1 annoying due to a lack of spin dash, but I'm not claiming Sonic 1 is bad because of it. I especially love how you defend most of the criticisms with the internal logic - hell, the one about trauma spoke to me as I lost my sister last year, and we aren't over it. And it's a good thing Charriii was the best of these 4, as I follow his content from time to time.
with the sin about free flow around 17:30, i actually agree. yes the combat was revolutionary at the time, but the amount of times batman would just...stop...for no reason was so abundant to the point i refused to touch the combat arenas cause of how annoying the breaks in the combos were getting
Well I don’t agree. Is it better than later games? HELL NO! But is it still fun? Yes. It’s a lot of fun and you need to seriously get better at it before you complain.
Perhaps Joker survived the shot to his jaw due to the happenstance that partly creates that smile. According to “The Three Jokers” storyline, one of the Jokers states that it, “Hurts to laugh.” This is revealed to be due to the vat of acid that bleached his skin. While examining several victims killed by the acid, it’s revealed that their jaws had partly melted. This seems to be true for at least one of the Jokers. So, in the game, due to the jaw melting, it could have concentrated more material to the bottom of the jaw due to gravity, allowing for an odd shape, and stronger structure, to save him from dying.
The problem with the Pizzeria Simulator approach would be containing the inmates without the staff, especially when those like Bane or Croc are strong enough to get through the walls, croc himself being able to go underwater or those like Clayface and Freeze being able to shrug off the fire. That and it would be considered immoral as (most) of the inmates need legitimate help
@@michaeliv284 Right. A lot of the inmates are literally just regular criminals with something wrong mentally. And even then, a lot of the point of Batman stories is humanizing villains to remind us that we can all become that; so a lot of the worst bunch still have something understandable about them
the funny thing about the all the dudes simping over Harley is that Harley was mocaped( short for motion captured) by a dude( Art Lenavat). Same with Catwoman in city.
Hey for the Scarecrow in Asylum I'm pretty sure that for the fear gas you could probably use a mask but in Knight his fear toxin has been upgraded Dialog from Knight: *Mentions the things that happen that night* "perhaps we should've left with the others" "Nah, I got a gas mask" "I've heard that the gas will go through masks" So for that it's more likely that Batman didn't expect to encounter Scarcrow seeing as though he was just fighting Joker then immediately went into the Asylum so Batman probably just prepared for fighting Joker so didn't think about a gas mask for Scarecrow (I could also be wrong but I don't think I saw anywhere in Asylum that said a gas mask was ineffective only in Knight)
Now I'm curious of what ClownPuncher thinks of Micah Edmonds' critique of Asylum which criticizes the game heavily not only on a world building level but on a moral level as well (basically claiming that how the game tackles mental health is "outdated" and "problematic" in which i'm personally not convinced). Not that I'm expecting a response video of course.
11:18 on top of that. It's a stealth game. The enemy AI has to be less aware of its surroundings than a regular enemy AI in order to make the game fun. Arkham actually has some of the best stealth game AI in gaming 35:55 it's actually year 11 and Batman has at least three other caves in the city alone, why not one on Arkham. Especially considering the fact that the Arkham Island cave is small and only has the basics 52:15 The police cars seen in this shot are most likely Ford Crown Victoria P71s which are a modified version of the Ford Crown Victoria sedan to serve as a police interceptor. It has a top speed of 177 kmh. The Batmobile in Arkham Knight has a top speed of 322 kmh and that's without the use of a literal jet engine. Considering that the Arkham Knight Batmobile is much heavier than the Arkham Asylum version, this version might be faster. Those cops couldn't follow batman even if they tried
10:12 also the Detective Mode isn't a rip off, it was somewhat reused from Rocksteady's Urban Chaos that was released 2 years prior to Asylum where you use thermal imaging. Many other aspects of Urban Chaos was reused in Asylum like the sound effect of inmates being electrocuted came from a stun gun in Urban Chaos
OK I’m normally a very easy-going guy but that was pretty messed up when that guy made fun of people who suffer after traumatic events like losing a loved one. That was not cool of him to say the least.
I just realized the whole reason Batman was able to resist the Titan formula was due to him resisting Scarecrow’s fear toxin. That slowly built up his willpower against different drugs in his system, along with his body also building a resistance.
Not necessarily. Batman trained his mind and body to the mental and physical peak so far as to be even labeled superhuman long before he discovered and was exposed to the Titan formula and Scarecrow’s fear toxin. Even when he encountered Crane for the first time in his career he most likely overcame and studied it to resist it. I’m not saying your an idiot but you need to know that overcoming Scarecrows toxin doesn’t mean he can resist the change he has dealt with poisons before example: Copperheads poison in AO
@@nicktroisi6347which is unrealistic and impossible in the real world, but that's superheroes for ya realism exists as much as Batman's parents surviving their deaths.
To be fair, I believe it’s implied that the formulation in Knight was specifically made to bypass gas masks, and his older versions could be blocked by it
I’ll give you that going back to Asylum from the later games makes you notice how much they refined the combat, but this was the first time any game had this style fighting, of COURSE it’s not gonna feel as good (although they did a GREAT job for the first attempt)
For Dartigan's "scanner" sin when he brings up how Batman is underequipped for the game: how was Batman supposed to know the events of the game would happen? As far as he knew, this was just going to be another night of dropping off Joker. Batman may be a master planner, but he's not psychic. Also, Dartigan's "I don't feel for Batman still crying over his parents" makes me angry. I lost 4 of my 5 grandparents (one remarried) and I was heartbroken at all of them.
Edit: I forgot to mention. I absolutely love this video. And your “what is actually wrong with” videos. Awesome work dude. Keep it up! Firstly, the sin that Joker is leading Bruce everywhere. Playing a game of cat and mouse instead of trying to stop Bruce. I absolutely love what you countered with. But I’d also like to mention that it is literally Joker’s MO. He leads everyone on cat and mouse games. Trails, clues, demonstrations…it’s all fun and games to him. He is known for incredibly elaborate, creative, and genius schemes that, on some occasions, turn out to be overthought. And until he finds a way to best Batman, he will lose in the very end. Because Batman is the sole being he has yet to best. If he can best Batman then he can best anyone. Secondly, It is sinned multiple times in these EWW videos about Joker not killing Batman. Which is stupid. Joker has not once wanted to legitimately end Bruce’s life. I don’t think Joker wants to end people’s lives just to end them. Or to end them at all. I mean, Joker loves to toy with and torture and terrify his victims. Usually he ends up killing them to mess with Batman and because they are lose ends. Without Batman, Joker has no archenemy. Without Batman there is no one who could stand in his way. Joker likes the challenge. Joker likes the extra effort he has to put in his schemes because he is very intelligent and creative. Batman’s existence allows him to follow through with elaborate schemes. And Joker would never kill the Batman seeing as how Joker has yet to truly best Batman. Sure, he’s beaten Batman. But never, never has Batman ever failed to stop Joker in the end.
I watched all of Dartigans videos on the Arkham Series and talked about how wrong he was to my friends. You sir deserve around applause making this video 👏👏👏👏
To be fair, the one criticism they’re correct to point out is how contrived it is that Joker has all his goons shipped in from Blackgate. As a former corrections officer, I can personally verify this. Correctional penitentiaries and mental health facilities are two entirely different things. MH facilities aren’t trained or equipped to deal with convicted criminals, and we’re not trained or equipped to be mental health professionals. In other words, regardless of circumstances, a prison would never house inmates at an MH facility and vice versa. So yes, it is extremely odd that highly dangerous (but sane) convicts are being housed at an asylum that isn’t equipped to deal with them.
59:24 Let’s also play a scenario where he did knock Joker off when he threw a batarang when he was relying on instinct the first time. When Batman tries to save the Joker when he falls down, Joker himself would attack Batman during this time which would end in either both of them dying, or just Joker dying. But when Joker dies, Batman broke his rule.
@@legoverse1412 True, but we don’t know how deep the fall is, and while I do believe this is possible, Joker is not going to make it easy as he knows who Batman is. Like I don’t think the Joker is going to make Batman use the Batclaw at all to escape when this is probably his only chance at doing something crazy. Although to be fair, if Joker wants to play with Batman for a bit considering how the rest of the game plays out, meaning the Joker wants all of it to happen…then there’s a good chance that he would probably let Batman use the Batclaw, but I don’t see any other practical reason for what’s going on here.
Seriously some people say things that are literal nonsense; the guy who said that Bruce Wayne shouldn't be crying for his parents after all those years is criticizing Batman's motives, because he wants to prevent someone else to endure pain and injustice; it's like criticizing Spider Man for feeling guilty of Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy deaths. The Arkham Franchise is a masterpiece (except SSKTJL), and it's a great superhero game saga.
@@thephoenixxm4160 yeah, in the comics, precisely between the issue 121 and 122 by the Green Goblin, while in the Ultimate comics (the ones from 2000-2010) she was killed by Carnage during the Carnage story arc, I recommend you go and read them... And yeah in TASM 2.
Gotta love how they’re insulting a game like Asylum even though it was on a very tight production schedule yet still was pretty fun and barely repetitive
GCN's point about peripheral vision made me lol because, one will be suprised about the amount of things they can see in peripheral vision and the things that they also can't. Like, when you're aiming your gun, you're blind at the sides.
It's funny how many of the sins related channels absolutely tear through media with such confidence despite the fact that they know next to nothing real about it, it's fortunate most are just satire but man the first video our boy was reviewing was just awful and lazy
The fact the guy criticized oracle and Ashley Williams having the same voice actor makes me wonder if he’s one of those assholes who thinks actors should be typecasted which, by the way has lead to bad things happening to said actors, it’s a good thing the field of voice acting doesn’t have that to my knowledge.
@@rsdillbot3646 exactly man, that's why I hated the video cuz it's literally this comment 20 times bruh, do people need someone to tell them when he's being sarcastic of just throwing a joke
@@Tilinmasterbro let people agree with some people. If you hate a video, don’t watch it. If you don’t like what someone is saying, don’t listen and unless they are FORCING you to listen, then you have no obligation to keep watching a video u dislike. It’s like seeing a video talking about a horror movie and then complaining when the person talking about said horror movie gives a review about it and either dislikes or likes it. You don’t HAVE to listen to said reviews or watch said videos. Simple as that.
Man, you definitely deserve more views. I truly believe you're the 2nd best Arkham channel I've ever watched, only after Batman Arkham Videos and his perfect gameplays.
Another thing about sin 3 is the fact that even simple prisons have these signs. Mind you, they tend to be road signs and not on the actual sign itself, since obviously you shouldn’t pick up a hitchhiker right outside of a prison, but also escapees are more likely to have run off and are rarely dumb enough to linger just outside of the prison (where there are sure to be guards coming in for their shift or patrolling the exterior for breaches and the like). I see that sign as just the developer’s way of adding some attention to detail for the sake of making it much less plain of a sign, while keeping it within the realm of realism. Another argument you could have made is that even Alcatraz failed to keep inmates in, despite being on a rough island far from the coast, with rough and likely predator inhabited waters.
I don't know how "I think you're showing off enough babe" is sexist, and I'm a woman, that's not sexist unless you're saying "babe" is sexist, if yes then you're wrong Edit: SERIOUSLY!?! HIM BEING EXCITED ABOUT TITTIES ISN'T SEXIST, I'M NOT A LESBIAN AND EVEN I LIKE TITTIES, JESUS DUDE
29:45 it's also worth noting that Arkham Harley is the classic portrayal of just wearing white facepaint instead of having bleached skin like Joker, it's possible that she didn't wear the outfit and makeup to get into the office, just appearing as a normal woman, (the turnover due to death at the asylum means it's that many guards only know her as Harley, not as Harleen) then got changed once she was there.
28:10 "Can you SMELL the excitement in the air? Must have been one of the guards, then." A fart joke that alludes to Croc's body odor. Obviously, Joker has been near to him before and recognizes his smell. Or we can assume Croc living in the sewers would make him stink like... well, sewers. Either way, they are waiting for another patient (the announcer warns about a category 9, and shoot-to-kill permissions are granted), so Joker smells Croc and throws the joke to insult him, thus making an introduction to the character for the players. Imagine this game in 4D.
@@ScumbagReynos exactly. He gets so worked up about pointless things throughout the video. To the point that he repeatedly made aggressive remarks against the people who created the videos rather than the actual points in video.
@@thatrandomguy3914 no he's just taking it all way too seriously. clownpuncher missed the satirical, sarcastic tone of the initial videos and responded aggressively.
I think it's cool you want to go into game development!!! Good luck, man!!! You picked a really good game franchise to adore. If you ever wanted to make games with inspired elements from the style the Arkham games use, I'd recommend trying to focus on specifically the level design and worldbuilding, which I personally feel like the Arkham games do better than almost all other games out there. The way that the Villains modify the dungeon levels to create puzzles naturally are just amazing. The worldbuilding is all over the place but still subtle. Anyways, wishing you luck!!
Man cinemasins really ruined the brains of a lot of people. I always cringe when i see variations of the “female character is not giving me a lap-dance”
I find it funny all of the “why doesn’t joker just kill Batman”. joker has said it before that “You complete me. Why would I kill you?” I swear these channels never actually played the games to get proper info
When he says why he didn't bring his utilities with him from the beginning, it explains itself. In Arkham City, Alfred asks why Batman doesn't get a bigger utility belt, and it's because it would slow him down.
Yeah that idiot needs to pull bullshit outta his fat tub of lard ass to make an attempt at a sin. Half of the shit he says is honestly irrelevant about the game and downright infuriating to hear him bitch about pointless bs.
Regarding the explosive gel sins, the gel is used for demolitions and as such contains zero shrapnel. Sure it can hurt or maim someone, like how Batman’s glove was damaged when applied DIRECTLY onto it, but standing nearby when it is detonated would only disorient or incapacitate someone because it creates a shockwave of force upon exploding.
Everytime they make a EWW something, i think that something must be very good. They say so many good thing are bad, that i think they just have bad taste. Thank you for giving them some of their own medicine.
“Hitchhikers may be escaped prisoners” signs are a real thing in real life. It’s not odd that a criminal asylum would have something real prisons would have.
“How are you doing this? I’ve given you enough toxin to drive 10 men insane! What are you?”-Possibly the best VA in the game. Scarecrow is such a GOAT.
I mean I usually love these vids, but you surely know the sin video is satire ? It just constantly sounds like you're that one guy who can never seem to get a joke.
I agree with you that it definitely is not sexist, but these sin channels all bringing it up is just weird, since every one of them made the same joke, so it was sin worthy but for a different reason.
I agree with everything you said except the jokes he made about woman not twerking. It's only down bad not sexist in my opinion. It still makes it wrong but calling it sexism is also wtong be auee it's not. He dosn't say a woman is only good to do that or anything like that so calling it sexism in my opinion is the wrong word to call that. Being down bad is the corect one. Sorry for my bad english not my first language and have a good day.
I liked Arkham Asylum, I played it a few months ago for the first time (i got a bunch of the arkham games in a humble bundle) and as someone who is challenged by the easiest setting for most games, it took me about a week to beat (10 hours - 11 hours). I found the gameplay relaxing and fun. Then I tried to jump into the next game and did not have the energy to even try, but a few months later I've played a bit into Arkham City, sort of played it for a bit, put it down and then forgot about it for a couple of weeks.
The EWW video being sinned is why I stopped watching the sins channels, all they do is nitpick the stupidest shit or things that make games great, make lame excuses for jokes, and overall just don’t understand anything
I absolutely hate it when I hear people criticize the "Hitchhikers may be escaping patients" sign. Roads in real life literally have that sign posted near prisons. It's not "bad security at Arkham," it's more great attention to detail. Something this game absolutely excels at!
I can see why several comments pointed me towards this video. Well done, good sir! I've only tackled Dartigan's terrible Arkham Asylum video, but I'm planning on revisiting it to remake it of better quality and eventually will take a look at other games in the series. I salute you on your takes 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I think a valid sin of the fake crash is how it has no staying power on a repeat play through. Also maybe one more for city is that why did Batman not get titan poisioning. Well the idea it’s titan poision makes no sense as it’s definitely jokers chemicals from before as no one else got titan poisioning. Also my main one is how in asylum I knew it was scarecrow the first time as joke said Jonathan Crane and I was expecting him. In the 3rd body bag I also guessed it was him and I was right. I love the atmosphere but if you know his name it losses it’s mystery and the fake death of Gordon has no effect
I usually watch GCN & Gamingsins for the funny commentary and never take their "Sins" seriously. But if you constantly nitpick everything you play & watch you'll never enjoy Video Games or Films or Shows then you'll never enjoy them as a art form or entertainment. (Also wtf happened to Gamingsins?)
For the sin about the name tags just saying "doctor" it's Arkham Asylum god only knows how many doc's had their families killed by someone like joker or zaazs or even the families and the doc themselves being made teat subjects of people like scarecrow name tag's just saying doctor is probably one if the smartest idea's
Anyone who has questioned that evidently did not read the comics like Year One. The time when everything to Batman was personal, despite 10-12 years passing with his parents' death. And that's about it really, it is personal, Bruce has learned far deeper things beyond those events. It's not just because Batman's parents died, it's a whole lot of things at the same time up until this point.
The phenomenon we see online of people having a complete lack of media literacy but still arrogantly acting like they know what they’re talking about, and dressing up their subjective opinions and outright nitpicks as being "objective critiques", as if there's any way to actually be objective when it comes to critiquing art outside of technical aspects just really gets on my nerves. I honestly do put a lot of the blame on Cinemasins for starting this trend. They hide behind their "Oh it's just satire" defense but it's clear that it's really a deflection to mask their nitpicky attitudes and their own lack of understanding. And regardless of whether they're kidding or not, there are people who *do* actually take their reviews seriously and try to be critics in a similar manner as them. And in my view that makes it hard to ever really enjoy anything when you train yourself to always look for "plot holes" or "this isn’t how the real world works". Like no shit, that’s why it's FICTION, as long as it makes sense *within* that fictional world and has an internal logic, then who cares? This style of review and critique I believe takes away our ability to actually think critically about the media we consume because it often bogs down any deep levels of discussions and analysis.
Okay I see where your coming from, and while I don't know about the other three channels ( well I do know a little bit about GamingSins but not much ) In respect to someone like Charriii I really don't think the whole "some people will take what you say as serious criticisms" thing would apply when he literally starts every video he does with a disclaimer that literally says "everything said in this video is a joke and shouldn't not be taken seriously and if something here sounds offensive to you then sorry for that" I feel that if someone is to read or hear that and still do take it as serious criticism simply because "he presents it as if he knows what he's talking about" then that's on them not the creator of the video.
@@chaosprogrammer2219 as of the reason that they don't take the whole "criticism" thing a satire joke. You can say that it's on us not the creator, but it's the creator jobs to show the satire and not be entirely serious about it. people have problems with these types of things and for good reason, they dont show satire and they still uses "the satire deflection" to Avoid their own ironic criticism. All I am saying is that the creator should be showing the satire joke and stop just saying that it is satire.
@@williamfalcone7588 Well that's the thing, the whole thing is a joke. Nothing in the video is meant to be actual sins and are all just arbitrary. EWW videos are essentially (at least from what I understand) satirical parodies of those criticisms made by different critics of different (in this case videogames) media. The ones who look for any reason to say "X" is garbage or "X" is not as good as you think, these videos are pretty much meant to be over-exaggerated versions of those criticisms made to make fun of them which is where the satire comes from. Although you can say it's a double edged sword since some critics do say some really stupid stuff when critiquing something and some of the things they say are similar to the things said in these videos and it doesn't help that the guy who started all this ended up becoming the very Thing he was making fun of and the whole format now has this bad stigma surrounding it.
For the sin about the Asylum's sign having a sub-sign to warn of escaped patients, one should note that real jails and prisons have these signs on the nearby roads as well because; yeah, people escape every now and again. Having the sign doesn't actually indicate a high escape ratio, it indicates that the states learned their lesson from stories in previous generations of criminals escaping through various means and using the fake story of being a hitchhiker to enlist unwitting motorists into helping them get further away from the holding facility.
I distinctly remember seeing a few in New Vegas as well that had the vault boy on them. Blew my mind as a child as that was the first time I saw a sign like that
I was getting ready to make this comment because yeah these signs exist outside of every prison I've ever driven by. Guess they might as well not have those prisons though if they need a sign out front!
I literally saw one yesterday 😂
@@markhirsch6301 Is it the ones near the NCR turned prison?
@@VicerimusMortem yes
12:53 The chances are, knowing the inmates in Arkham, the staff wouldn't want their names being known by said inmates, deciding to let the inmates know what their job is.
Exactly, especially in one of the comics when one of the psychologists name was known by an inmate, the inmate had stalked her and knew everything about her then planned on killing her.
@@unstable2980 also zasz hunts down one of the psychologists, this is in the recordings
Good point.
Also considering the Harley Quinn patient interview tapes, Joker knew her name from her tag and used that to manipulate her, they most likely didn’t want that to happen again so they changed all name tags to just say their profession.
considering the Zasz tapes, i imagine they tried their best to maintain a lot more privacy for their staff after that incident.
On top of the part about the "Hitchhiker's may be escaping patients part" that's actually true, prisons and mental institutions literally have those signs, doesn't mean they have bad security, just chances of that happening
If Cinemasins owned a prison, they would have this hubris that they think they have created the most secure prison in history and think that escaping it would be impossible. Only for them to get suprised when that statement gets proven wrong. And then they realise that their mistake is a cliche trope that happened in cartoons and give themselves a sin.
@@DeadlyAlienInvader That sound hilarious. I would pay for a movie just about these guys failing miserable to do stuff because they find it 'cliche'
Not even the best asylum in the world would admit to be infallible, similar to the best basketball star, or the best writer or chef
The first step in being the best of something is admitting you could improve
Yeah, even the most secure prisons will have escapes. Hell, remember the guy that escaped Alcatraz? Exactly.
@@lemonsquidge3134 Those guys and it isn't confirmed they escaped
RIP Arleen Sorkin and Kevin Conroy. They are THE voices for Harley Quinn and Batman and I am saddened they both are not longer with us.
I hope they Rest in Paradise.❤
@@ltkrunchye7584yeah mark hamil just lost kevin and arleen i feel so bad for him
Agreed
Tara strong will always be my favorite Harley Quinn 😍
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1:05:21 I can't believe he never once read that line back to himself and realised that it made him sound like a grotesque unempathetic psychopath.
EXACTLY! It's one thing if you don't like Bruce's backstory, but it feels like in this moment he forgot that death, losing loved ones, and trauma are things that actually happen in real life and aren't made-up cliches for fictional stories.
He doesn't care
Its a game
The dude is dumb, but it's just a game. Someone's thoughts about games do not represent who they are in real life.
@@Leaf4825 a game can tackle important issues too.
1:05:29. Finally someone said it. I'm tired of everyone bashing on the death of Thomas and Martha Wayne. If anyone lost their parents like that in front of their eyes, of course they wouldn't just get over it. I'm sick of that critique of the character. Batman's whole mission is to make sure it doesn't happen
I’ve watched his Cinema Sins Videos and after he Bashed 2015 Cinderella I’ve since stopped watching his stuff but I’ve never heard him sound so Cold and Cruel
It's like the Uncle Ben critique with Spider-Man.
Some people (particularly the "nobody wants to see Uncle Ben die again" people) act like we're reminded of him every time Spider-Man gets a movie.
But at most, we've only seen him twice on screen (the Tobey Maguire Uncle Ben, and Andrew Garfield Uncle Ben.) And I think he was name dropped In the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies.
I truly think their statement was made out of annoyance rather than cruelty or malice, like listening to a sad story on repeat.
@@meldrickedwards1464 in No Way Home, he was mentioned by name. Still how the hell does twice add up to too many times? Jesus fans can be stuck up.
@@jaredgarcia8638 Maybe they also count the animated shows Spider Man appeared in
An hour of a hero defending the Arkham games from slander? Sign me up!
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@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 are you going to finish that croissant?
Ratio
@@strawberrypeels I'll give you a like to cheer you up since that ratio clearly didn't work.
@@UranousImpala u a grown ass man obsessed with a batman🤦🏽♂️
Also there are no name tags on the doctors uniforms because if the patients knew their names it would put them in more danger than just working in the asylum and would give the patients a name to hunt down.
damn you have a point lmao the most insane dangerous criminals ever could find you
But it's pointless cuz they say their names in tbe begining of the audio tapes when they have session with the patients , that's how Zsasz knew about Dr.Cassidy which he then went to her appartment and kidnapped her and tried to kill her before Batman stopped him and saved her.
@@ceoofbased6850 maybe it was that incident that made them stop using their names? Who knows, def sounds like one of those "learn from your mistakes" things
that says a lot about Arkham Society
Exactly. In real life, some prisons have their guards wear masks when working near inmates like drug lords and terrorists, with the reach to have someone on the outside targeted. In a universe with supervillains, you bet your ass they'd keep the staff anonymous.
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I always rationalized this as Batman talking to himself in his head, like his conscious. It'd be pretty stupid to vocalize all these things in a situation like that where anyone could be listening. It also makes sense in why he points out obvious things. They're not general statements, they're footnotes he's giving himself.
They actually do this in Arkham Knight. If you pay attention to him when hes narrating(for example panessa studios with the bat mobile) his mouth won’t be moving
@@Wig-po5nb little late but it's In every arkham game when batman talks to himself.
Batman: Hmm i can hop on the gargoyles and take the thugs out without them seeing me
Thug: hey did anyone hear something? Lets check the gargoyles. Gasp its da freakin bat!
Absolutely right. I don't know how anyone would think otherwise. He's a detective doing detective work. Of course he's going to be monologuing in his head.
That actually happens every time in the Arkham games, when he's monologuing like that and see his face he's not moving his mouth (also happens with other characters in the other games), but obviously when he's talking to someone else he is moving it (and it has surprising lip sync considering a good chunk of players don't even look at Batman's face during those conversations)
“Is this a Batman game or a horror game?” “YES”
Bro I couldn’t agree more
Yes, it is a unique aspect of Arkham Asylum, that is never replicated, save for some brief isolated sections. It plays up the gothic nature of the Batman mythos, and traps you in complete chaos with mentally unstable criminals. That is a horrifying scenario. The game often conveys a tone and atmosphere of subtle horror (which becomes more explicit in the Scarecrow sections, and the Killer Croc segment).
Honestly, it's not exactly hard to imagine a horror/reverse horror game about Batman
Killer Croc is one of the only times I've ever had a nightmare as an adult. This game does such a good job at being a horror game when it wants to, both for you and for the enemies.
@@michaeliv284 A game about being a criminal escaping batman would be sick
It suckz as a horror game.
43:12 you are correct on both things. Flash bangs (concussion grenade is the same thing essentially) we’re made in the 60’s by British Forces, and also Batman’s explosive gel does exist. It’s called water gel explosives. Only irl they are far more deadly but it’s not far fetched to believe Batman chemically engineered it to be less lethal.
Ik it's a yr old comment but yeah judging by his mass amount of money, willingness to not kill and intelligence yeah it's make sense he could easily do that
Learned something new from an old comment, nice.
So those guys are actually right all of them and this guy was wrong
I'm late but I gotta disagree. They're real things yeah but they're still explosives. If you blow one of them up in your hand or worse, in your face, it's gonna do a lot of damage. Disfiguring to lethal damage. Joker at minimum should have received severe damage from that, Titan or not. And Batman should be one hand down at minimum too. Look it up if you're skeptical, you're right to be. they're only non lethal at range; point blank and they're as deadly as any explosive
@@sans-was-taken-. Joker had his teeth atomized by that hit, it would have been a lot worse if it werent from the serum
Honestly these channels need to have a satire sin list and a legit issue. That way its easier to pick it apart the issues
Agreed.
GamingSins started doing that shortly before their channel went down unfortunately no other channel learned from that.
@@65firered when did they lose their channel?
@@alucardo2961 Some years back, I couldn't find what exactly happened, there's an archive channel though. ua-cam.com/channels/uiWQ0pxMNOJXnbYeUW-4SA.html
@@65firered damn that sucks. I actually liked them
And my god i've never heard you rage this hard, i love it. Also Rest in Peace to your grandpa, I understand what you and your family are going through since my mom died when i was about 11. So sorry to hear about that
I lost my dad nearly 2 months ago from natural causes so I understand what he's going through rip to his grandpa tho 🙏
@@shamblezer1089 My condolences. I lost my dad a little over a year ago to cancer that came out of nowhere. It's still hard to this day. I definitely understand what he and you are going through.
I'm so sorry for your loss
I lost my mother quite recently at 13
@@andrewscott3176 i'm sorry to hear that man
About the fact that the doctor's tag only says "doctor": beside being an easy way to reuse an asset for multiple characters, it is in canon a great way for the inmates to not know your name. In real life, it is advised to not put your full name on your "name tag" if you work in the medical field, so the patients won't be able to find you on social media, etc. Here, in Arkham, it would also allowed the doctors to reveal their name and exact profession only when they want to and to who they need to. Not every inmate has to know their last name, only the ones they are working with.
The sin about Batman not bringing more gadgets is a not uncommon one that completely misses how necessary it is from a reality standpoint. Batman can't carry everything he owns. He has a base loadout because carrying too much risks weighing him down too much. He could have heavier armor plating, but it would reduce his agility and speed. Batman has to be achieve a balance between being prepared for anything and actually having only what he needs. Which is why he has an arsenal in the Batmobile and satellite Batcaves. No matter where he goes in Gotham, he can still have close access to an armory that will have what he can't carry at all times. It'd be really convenient to have a tool chest and array of basic automotive supplies in your car at all times, but most people don't so that they can have space to carry groceries or whatever. Same principle.
To add to your point about batman not being able to carry all his gadgets, alfred asks batman in Arkham city if he considered using a bigger belt. Batman says he used one once but it slowed him down due to its weight
11:38 it's also worth noting that Tunnel Vision is a thing, people get focused in one direction, so even if something should appear in their peripheral vision, it doesn't register (I for one would always get so focused on reading and listning to tunes between classes at college that my lecturers could get right in front of me before I even noticed, which is why I sat outside the room the next class would be)
Don’t you hate when players play the whole game in Tunnel Vision? 🙄
29:30 Harley Quinn was a former staff at a hospital in Gotham. Her former past probably gave her the legitimacy to enter the Aslyum control room
Arkham specifically. So that's more legitimacy for ms Quinn.
At this point I just wonder how clownpuncher has managed to retain his sanity
That's the neat part. I haven't.
@@ClownPuncher139 bruh
He's become stupid like the rest of the fandom
@@ClownPuncher139 All the best people are mad, broseph. Wa-ha-ha-ha ha
@@ClownPuncher139 pretty sure u lost it during the gcpd sewers no gliding
9:52 Batman’s Detective Mode is kind of a mix of a lot of things. X-Ray, Heat Specs, Night Vision, Thermal, and like you said, somewhat sonar based. It’s a little mix of all of these. But the thing it is most is definitely something that would be amazing for the military.
The military would abuse it
Kinda like instinct in the Hitman games
But that’s just a theory
@@thataintfalco7106 *inhales
@@Omar-Azimi A GAME THEORY
One thing to point out, not all staff that work in prisons/mental institutions are trained to defend themselves. As someone who's worked in corrections and in a hospital setting, I can attest to this. Medical staff *might* have incredibly basic training to defend *themselves*, but likely no training to defend others. There is a difference. Also, medical staff is usually prevented, by policy, to intervene in a physically violent situation and would leave that sort of thing to security staff. Yes, I know that this situation is something out of the norm, but the orderly that saved the guard probably would have had no idea how to fight Joker, and/or would have been too scared
Detective mode is explained in Arkham Knight.
It uses a mix of sonar, and a sort of Bluetooth system which detects electronics. Along with Batman having thermal imaging lenses which I assume are contact lenses much like in the new Batman movie.
Through that sonar it can also detect heartbeats. I’m sure the devs didn’t care about the science, but I assume they can tell through the sonar interference of hitting someone’s body and having the sound waves be partially dampened. If you don’t know, opposite directional sound waves will cancel each other’s sound.
Being hooked up to the bat computer he can get his enemies stress levels and life signs with the sonar as well
you’d think Harley would know how to get into the control room, considering she used to work at the asylum. She’d probably have codes to the security system.
True but what if they changed the codes?
I'm sure after they realize Harley was helping Joker they would change the codes
Arkham Asylum is a prison as well, prisons change sec codes all the time for security reason.
So I'm currently getting a B.A. in History, and one thing we spend a lot of time with last semester was being able to understand which texts were written independently, and which use another text as inspiration or outright plagiarize those, and I think it's funny that here you can see this, in how some of the exact same "sins" repeat, like the Harley concussion sin, and the Joker Party thugs all having "the same voice actor" where you can clearly see that one is based on and heavily draws upon the other.
And they call Arkham Asylum unoriginal for taking inspiration from other works?
EDIT: oh and how could I forget the sexist Harley Lapdance Sin, and the Dark Knight Reference Sin also repeating..
They think that they're being clever and funny by listing these things,but all they're doing is repeating the same things the others said with slight differences.It's like a chain of parrots repeating each other,but they all have minor hearing problems,so they hear it a little bit different each time.
One thing i love about Arkham is when the Goons talk about Harley or interact with her. Some of them try to hit on her while the others are more terrified of her than they are of Joker. It always felt like A call out of people obsessed with Harley and make shitty critiques like "hur hur lap dance funny."
I love videos of people refuting the “game sin” list type videos. It makes me realize all the more why i personally hate them after what GCN did to my Nier Automata
It's basically just "insert random thing = sin" it's like the "nier is wearing black *sin*" like ah yes that makes sense
@@xx-fz2ll yeah, and they keep refuting the concepts and PLOT of the game BOTH PRIOR and AFTER they are stated
That “hitch hikers may be escaping patients” is a real sign. It’s not really because they will get away and space but It’s more so for the safety of the person picking them up. Most physicopaths or lunatics act being a normal charming person and anyone picking them up are just having their guard down letting a deranged killer in their car
I think it is fair to say it would be hard for Bruce to secretly build a Batcave on Arkham Island since he owns Wayne Manor and the Studios while he would have to hide all of the construction and moving stuff like the computer would be hard but not impossible for Batman to smuggle stuff into the cave.
Also Stagg was the one who made the fear gas be able to pass through gas masks which was told in the research note.
I love how he complains about the "Hitchhikers maybe escaping inmates" sign completely ignoring the fact that there are signs on roads like that around prisons all over the world. He could make the point that putting such a sign right at the entrance of the prison is redundant, but sinning the fact that it is there and claiming "Well, I guess security is just bad." is such a dumb remark. Some of the most secure Super Max Prisons in the U.S. (which are basically inescapable) still have these signs to warn passing drivers that they shouldn't pick up any hitchhikers for even the slight chance that someone may possibly escape.
This is my favorite game of all time. I’ve been playing this game with my nana since it came out, and I’ve been helplessly addicted ever since. I cannot thank you enough for consistently itching this corner of my brain.
I don't have a favorite Arkham game I love all of them
That's an adorable thought, playing Batman with your nana, thats so sweet!
Also with the batcave thing. He literally has to jump off of a cliff to reach it. The only other way is a vent in the sewers that would be incredibly hard to find in the first place. Also no one knew about it, even Oracle didn't
Bruce resisting the Changes makes sense.
He trained hard in Mind and Body.
So I remember when I was a kid and got to the 3rd scarecrow segment. That “crash” might as well have given me a heart attack. I had just replaced my 360 as my first one got the red ring of death. So the fear that this new Xbox was dying too scared me
14:55 There I can really agree with you because I thought the third bodybag would be a dead Bruce joining his parents in their fate so the jumpscare with Scarecrow was so well done.
Especially if you open the bags in a specific way (the longer of the 2 and then the 3rd shorter one).
Let’s go! I love this little series you have here. Watched these Asylum videos specifically first growing up so I am happy you get to tear them to shreds. Nice birthday present if I do say so myself.
Happy Birthday!
@@ClownPuncher139 Thanks!
@@Gamefreak-kb2ni happy birthday 🎉🎉🧁
@@Gamefreak-kb2ni Happy Birthday 🎂
Happy birthday 🎂🎉🎊
The fact you put that Cat in the Hat clip in this video makes it a masterpiece among the level of the Arkham games.
I love this video. I'm wary of Cinema Sins inspired videos due to nitpicks, and I have to say the first one was downright insulting. Lord knows, I find Sonic 1 annoying due to a lack of spin dash, but I'm not claiming Sonic 1 is bad because of it.
I especially love how you defend most of the criticisms with the internal logic - hell, the one about trauma spoke to me as I lost my sister last year, and we aren't over it.
And it's a good thing Charriii was the best of these 4, as I follow his content from time to time.
with the sin about free flow around 17:30, i actually agree. yes the combat was revolutionary at the time, but the amount of times batman would just...stop...for no reason was so abundant to the point i refused to touch the combat arenas cause of how annoying the breaks in the combos were getting
Skill issue
@@scarletwolf493r/beatmetoit
Well I don’t agree. Is it better than later games? HELL NO! But is it still fun? Yes. It’s a lot of fun and you need to seriously get better at it before you complain.
Damn dude I commend the effort defending asylum, the arkham series is a collection of my favorite games.
Perhaps Joker survived the shot to his jaw due to the happenstance that partly creates that smile. According to “The Three Jokers” storyline, one of the Jokers states that it, “Hurts to laugh.” This is revealed to be due to the vat of acid that bleached his skin. While examining several victims killed by the acid, it’s revealed that their jaws had partly melted. This seems to be true for at least one of the Jokers. So, in the game, due to the jaw melting, it could have concentrated more material to the bottom of the jaw due to gravity, allowing for an odd shape, and stronger structure, to save him from dying.
Honestly, letting the entire Asylum burn with all of Joker's men inside and killing all the rogues would be the best ending for Gotham citizens
The problem with the Pizzeria Simulator approach would be containing the inmates without the staff, especially when those like Bane or Croc are strong enough to get through the walls, croc himself being able to go underwater or those like Clayface and Freeze being able to shrug off the fire. That and it would be considered immoral as (most) of the inmates need legitimate help
@@michaeliv284 Right. A lot of the inmates are literally just regular criminals with something wrong mentally.
And even then, a lot of the point of Batman stories is humanizing villains to remind us that we can all become that; so a lot of the worst bunch still have something understandable about them
the funny thing about the all the dudes simping over Harley is that Harley was mocaped( short for motion captured) by a dude( Art Lenavat). Same with Catwoman in city.
Hey for the Scarecrow in Asylum I'm pretty sure that for the fear gas you could probably use a mask but in Knight his fear toxin has been upgraded
Dialog from Knight: *Mentions the things that happen that night* "perhaps we should've left with the others"
"Nah, I got a gas mask"
"I've heard that the gas will go through masks"
So for that it's more likely that Batman didn't expect to encounter Scarcrow seeing as though he was just fighting Joker then immediately went into the Asylum so Batman probably just prepared for fighting Joker so didn't think about a gas mask for Scarecrow
(I could also be wrong but I don't think I saw anywhere in Asylum that said a gas mask was ineffective only in Knight)
You are right about that in Stagg's research notes we hear him say something along the lines of we made the gas able to go through gas masks.
Now I'm curious of what ClownPuncher thinks of Micah Edmonds' critique of Asylum which criticizes the game heavily not only on a world building level but on a moral level as well (basically claiming that how the game tackles mental health is "outdated" and "problematic" in which i'm personally not convinced). Not that I'm expecting a response video of course.
Well he has a point cuz this is all based on batman not wanting to kill which is super new
@@miminoran8948 super new?! He had that moral since the freakin 90’s cartoon show. Hell, he had that since the silver age. What are you talking about?
The way that Arkham Asylum in world treats mental health is actually very outdated
@@lilypaigeham how
The name "Micah" already depicts his character
11:18 on top of that. It's a stealth game. The enemy AI has to be less aware of its surroundings than a regular enemy AI in order to make the game fun. Arkham actually has some of the best stealth game AI in gaming
35:55 it's actually year 11 and Batman has at least three other caves in the city alone, why not one on Arkham. Especially considering the fact that the Arkham Island cave is small and only has the basics
52:15 The police cars seen in this shot are most likely Ford Crown Victoria P71s which are a modified version of the Ford Crown Victoria sedan to serve as a police interceptor. It has a top speed of 177 kmh. The Batmobile in Arkham Knight has a top speed of 322 kmh and that's without the use of a literal jet engine. Considering that the Arkham Knight Batmobile is much heavier than the Arkham Asylum version, this version might be faster. Those cops couldn't follow batman even if they tried
I thought it was confirmed to be 10 years guess I was wrong
10:12 also the Detective Mode isn't a rip off, it was somewhat reused from Rocksteady's Urban Chaos that was released 2 years prior to Asylum where you use thermal imaging. Many other aspects of Urban Chaos was reused in Asylum like the sound effect of inmates being electrocuted came from a stun gun in Urban Chaos
OK I’m normally a very easy-going guy but that was pretty messed up when that guy made fun of people who suffer after traumatic events like losing a loved one. That was not cool of him to say the least.
Fr it was so messed up
I just realized the whole reason Batman was able to resist the Titan formula was due to him resisting Scarecrow’s fear toxin. That slowly built up his willpower against different drugs in his system, along with his body also building a resistance.
Not necessarily. Batman trained his mind and body to the mental and physical peak so far as to be even labeled superhuman long before he discovered and was exposed to the Titan formula and Scarecrow’s fear toxin. Even when he encountered Crane for the first time in his career he most likely overcame and studied it to resist it.
I’m not saying your an idiot but you need to know that overcoming Scarecrows toxin doesn’t mean he can resist the change he has dealt with poisons before example: Copperheads poison in AO
@@nicktroisi6347which is unrealistic and impossible in the real world, but that's superheroes for ya realism exists as much as Batman's parents surviving their deaths.
I quite like charii5 personally, but thank you for telling us the mistakes in all of these everything wrong with videos.
my personal favorite out of the cinema sins copy's hes actually funny and his voice doesn't sound like nails on a chalk board.
Which one gaming sins or gcn
Agreed
To be fair, I believe it’s implied that the formulation in Knight was specifically made to bypass gas masks, and his older versions could be blocked by it
I’ll give you that going back to Asylum from the later games makes you notice how much they refined the combat, but this was the first time any game had this style fighting, of COURSE it’s not gonna feel as good (although they did a GREAT job for the first attempt)
For Dartigan's "scanner" sin when he brings up how Batman is underequipped for the game: how was Batman supposed to know the events of the game would happen? As far as he knew, this was just going to be another night of dropping off Joker. Batman may be a master planner, but he's not psychic.
Also, Dartigan's "I don't feel for Batman still crying over his parents" makes me angry. I lost 4 of my 5 grandparents (one remarried) and I was heartbroken at all of them.
Edit: I forgot to mention. I absolutely love this video. And your “what is actually wrong with” videos. Awesome work dude. Keep it up!
Firstly, the sin that Joker is leading Bruce everywhere. Playing a game of cat and mouse instead of trying to stop Bruce. I absolutely love what you countered with. But I’d also like to mention that it is literally Joker’s MO. He leads everyone on cat and mouse games. Trails, clues, demonstrations…it’s all fun and games to him. He is known for incredibly elaborate, creative, and genius schemes that, on some occasions, turn out to be overthought. And until he finds a way to best Batman, he will lose in the very end. Because Batman is the sole being he has yet to best. If he can best Batman then he can best anyone.
Secondly, It is sinned multiple times in these EWW videos about Joker not killing Batman. Which is stupid. Joker has not once wanted to legitimately end Bruce’s life. I don’t think Joker wants to end people’s lives just to end them. Or to end them at all. I mean, Joker loves to toy with and torture and terrify his victims. Usually he ends up killing them to mess with Batman and because they are lose ends. Without Batman, Joker has no archenemy. Without Batman there is no one who could stand in his way. Joker likes the challenge. Joker likes the extra effort he has to put in his schemes because he is very intelligent and creative. Batman’s existence allows him to follow through with elaborate schemes. And Joker would never kill the Batman seeing as how Joker has yet to truly best Batman. Sure, he’s beaten Batman. But never, never has Batman ever failed to stop Joker in the end.
Nah dissing that asylum chime is worth more than 20 sins
I watched all of Dartigans videos on the Arkham Series and talked about how wrong he was to my friends. You sir deserve around applause making this video 👏👏👏👏
To be fair, the one criticism they’re correct to point out is how contrived it is that Joker has all his goons shipped in from Blackgate.
As a former corrections officer, I can personally verify this. Correctional penitentiaries and mental health facilities are two entirely different things. MH facilities aren’t trained or equipped to deal with convicted criminals, and we’re not trained or equipped to be mental health professionals. In other words, regardless of circumstances, a prison would never house inmates at an MH facility and vice versa. So yes, it is extremely odd that highly dangerous (but sane) convicts are being housed at an asylum that isn’t equipped to deal with them.
Officer Boles
BWAAAAAA
Why is you laughing at Balls? Are you immature?
59:24 Let’s also play a scenario where he did knock Joker off when he threw a batarang when he was relying on instinct the first time. When Batman tries to save the Joker when he falls down, Joker himself would attack Batman during this time which would end in either both of them dying, or just Joker dying. But when Joker dies, Batman broke his rule.
I guess he could use the Batclaw, or it would play out how it did in Origins
@@legoverse1412 True, but we don’t know how deep the fall is, and while I do believe this is possible, Joker is not going to make it easy as he knows who Batman is. Like I don’t think the Joker is going to make Batman use the Batclaw at all to escape when this is probably his only chance at doing something crazy. Although to be fair, if Joker wants to play with Batman for a bit considering how the rest of the game plays out, meaning the Joker wants all of it to happen…then there’s a good chance that he would probably let Batman use the Batclaw, but I don’t see any other practical reason for what’s going on here.
Sining the Arkham Bell chime is worth 1 million sins
Seriously some people say things that are literal nonsense; the guy who said that Bruce Wayne shouldn't be crying for his parents after all those years is criticizing Batman's motives, because he wants to prevent someone else to endure pain and injustice; it's like criticizing Spider Man for feeling guilty of Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy deaths. The Arkham Franchise is a masterpiece (except SSKTJL), and it's a great superhero game saga.
Gwen Stacy died? Glad they retconned it to where she is Miles Morales' girlfriend.
@@thephoenixxm4160 yeah, in the comics, precisely between the issue 121 and 122 by the Green Goblin, while in the Ultimate comics (the ones from 2000-2010) she was killed by Carnage during the Carnage story arc, I recommend you go and read them... And yeah in TASM 2.
Gotta love how they’re insulting a game like Asylum even though it was on a very tight production schedule yet still was pretty fun and barely repetitive
This man is defending the Arkham games from very bad opinions. Amazing.
Not bad opinions bad jokes
@@Dylan-np4oy yes
Stating what's happening on the screen cliché
@@Dylan-np4oy fr
GCN's point about peripheral vision made me lol because, one will be suprised about the amount of things they can see in peripheral vision and the things that they also can't.
Like, when you're aiming your gun, you're blind at the sides.
It's funny how many of the sins related channels absolutely tear through media with such confidence despite the fact that they know next to nothing real about it, it's fortunate most are just satire but man the first video our boy was reviewing was just awful and lazy
Gotta say these videos are really fun and, your points are actually valid. Fantastic vid Mr puncher
@Christian Stewart fr lmao
11:52 the thing is that the riddler does not have a superiority complex. He has an INferiority complex
The fact the guy criticized oracle and Ashley Williams having the same voice actor makes me wonder if he’s one of those assholes who thinks actors should be typecasted which, by the way has lead to bad things happening to said actors, it’s a good thing the field of voice acting doesn’t have that to my knowledge.
Damn, your taking his video way too seriously
@@rsdillbot3646 exactly man, that's why I hated the video cuz it's literally this comment 20 times bruh, do people need someone to tell them when he's being sarcastic of just throwing a joke
@@Tilinmasterbro let people agree with some people. If you hate a video, don’t watch it. If you don’t like what someone is saying, don’t listen and unless they are FORCING you to listen, then you have no obligation to keep watching a video u dislike. It’s like seeing a video talking about a horror movie and then complaining when the person talking about said horror movie gives a review about it and either dislikes or likes it. You don’t HAVE to listen to said reviews or watch said videos. Simple as that.
Man, you definitely deserve more views. I truly believe you're the 2nd best Arkham channel I've ever watched, only after Batman Arkham Videos and his perfect gameplays.
17:30
That got a laugh out of me fr
Another thing about sin 3 is the fact that even simple prisons have these signs. Mind you, they tend to be road signs and not on the actual sign itself, since obviously you shouldn’t pick up a hitchhiker right outside of a prison, but also escapees are more likely to have run off and are rarely dumb enough to linger just outside of the prison (where there are sure to be guards coming in for their shift or patrolling the exterior for breaches and the like). I see that sign as just the developer’s way of adding some attention to detail for the sake of making it much less plain of a sign, while keeping it within the realm of realism.
Another argument you could have made is that even Alcatraz failed to keep inmates in, despite being on a rough island far from the coast, with rough and likely predator inhabited waters.
I don't know how "I think you're showing off enough babe" is sexist, and I'm a woman, that's not sexist unless you're saying "babe" is sexist, if yes then you're wrong
Edit: SERIOUSLY!?! HIM BEING EXCITED ABOUT TITTIES ISN'T SEXIST, I'M NOT A LESBIAN AND EVEN I LIKE TITTIES, JESUS DUDE
That was more of them copying them and making fun of them.
Its something cinemasins does as well.
Dude I love your videos, you're mega underrated and I genuinely mean that. Keep it up!
"Woah is this a batman game or a horror game?" "Y E S"
29:45 it's also worth noting that Arkham Harley is the classic portrayal of just wearing white facepaint instead of having bleached skin like Joker, it's possible that she didn't wear the outfit and makeup to get into the office, just appearing as a normal woman, (the turnover due to death at the asylum means it's that many guards only know her as Harley, not as Harleen) then got changed once she was there.
28:10 "Can you SMELL the excitement in the air? Must have been one of the guards, then."
A fart joke that alludes to Croc's body odor. Obviously, Joker has been near to him before and recognizes his smell. Or we can assume Croc living in the sewers would make him stink like... well, sewers. Either way, they are waiting for another patient (the announcer warns about a category 9, and shoot-to-kill permissions are granted), so Joker smells Croc and throws the joke to insult him, thus making an introduction to the character for the players. Imagine this game in 4D.
your consistent commitment to being anti-toxicity is really admirable, keep up the great content :)
Didn’t he call one of them dumbass and the other an imbecile? All because they’re giving some opinions. Wholesome.
Anti-toxic in general is just another word for being intolerant of people who have “negative” opinions.
@@ScumbagReynos exactly. He gets so worked up about pointless things throughout the video. To the point that he repeatedly made aggressive remarks against the people who created the videos rather than the actual points in video.
@@werd4710 Im guessing you're a twitter user. That would explain how you don't know what a joke is.
@@thatrandomguy3914 no he's just taking it all way too seriously. clownpuncher missed the satirical, sarcastic tone of the initial videos and responded aggressively.
I think it's cool you want to go into game development!!! Good luck, man!!! You picked a really good game franchise to adore. If you ever wanted to make games with inspired elements from the style the Arkham games use, I'd recommend trying to focus on specifically the level design and worldbuilding, which I personally feel like the Arkham games do better than almost all other games out there. The way that the Villains modify the dungeon levels to create puzzles naturally are just amazing. The worldbuilding is all over the place but still subtle. Anyways, wishing you luck!!
Man cinemasins really ruined the brains of a lot of people. I always cringe when i see variations of the “female character is not giving me a lap-dance”
I find it funny all of the “why doesn’t joker just kill Batman”. joker has said it before that “You complete me. Why would I kill you?” I swear these channels never actually played the games to get proper info
Ok bud, I love your vids, but how is anything they said "sexist"?
Some of them started making everything the woman do sexual just because they’re a woman and stuff like that.
When he says why he didn't bring his utilities with him from the beginning, it explains itself. In Arkham City, Alfred asks why Batman doesn't get a bigger utility belt, and it's because it would slow him down.
Yeah that idiot needs to pull bullshit outta his fat tub of lard ass to make an attempt at a sin. Half of the shit he says is honestly irrelevant about the game and downright infuriating to hear him bitch about pointless bs.
Regarding the explosive gel sins, the gel is used for demolitions and as such contains zero shrapnel. Sure it can hurt or maim someone, like how Batman’s glove was damaged when applied DIRECTLY onto it, but standing nearby when it is detonated would only disorient or incapacitate someone because it creates a shockwave of force upon exploding.
Everytime they make a EWW something, i think that something must be very good. They say so many good thing are bad, that i think they just have bad taste.
Thank you for giving them some of their own medicine.
“Hitchhikers may be escaped prisoners” signs are a real thing in real life. It’s not odd that a criminal asylum would have something real prisons would have.
I'm quite impressed how sexiest are some jokes about Harley and Ivy
How to be a sin channel 1 sound as condescending as possible.2 talk about nothing for 20-30 minutes
and make stupid sins
I love all Arkham games!
The only drawback of Asylum is that there is no smoke pellet, but it is an old game, so....
I love it!
First dude really tried to say 'doctor' wasn't a profession.
Technically, doctor is just a general term. You would want to be more specific if talking about professions, like Neurologist or Gynecologist.
“How are you doing this? I’ve given you enough toxin to drive 10 men insane! What are you?”-Possibly the best VA in the game. Scarecrow is such a GOAT.
I mean I usually love these vids, but you surely know the sin video is satire ? It just constantly sounds like you're that one guy who can never seem to get a joke.
If it’s a joke, it should have been funny.
@@ClownPuncher139 not all jokes are funny but yet again not all jokes should be said
@@ClownPuncher139 You repeatedly call him dense, yet when joke’s repeatedly go over your head, you sound extremely dense.
@@joestephenson527 no they don’t even seem like joke videos they just say that it a a joke video to get less hate
@MrAngryBastardOfficial Common sense?
Any form of lusting or desire over Harley = sexism huh? If only she were real then it’d actually stick
I agree with you that it definitely is not sexist, but these sin channels all bringing it up is just weird, since every one of them made the same joke, so it was sin worthy but for a different reason.
I agree with everything you said except the jokes he made about woman not twerking. It's only down bad not sexist in my opinion. It still makes it wrong but calling it sexism is also wtong be auee it's not. He dosn't say a woman is only good to do that or anything like that so calling it sexism in my opinion is the wrong word to call that. Being down bad is the corect one. Sorry for my bad english not my first language and have a good day.
I liked Arkham Asylum, I played it a few months ago for the first time (i got a bunch of the arkham games in a humble bundle) and as someone who is challenged by the easiest setting for most games, it took me about a week to beat (10 hours - 11 hours). I found the gameplay relaxing and fun. Then I tried to jump into the next game and did not have the energy to even try, but a few months later I've played a bit into Arkham City, sort of played it for a bit, put it down and then forgot about it for a couple of weeks.
@Mr Arkham Sure but Knights has a bunch of DLC's
The EWW video being sinned is why I stopped watching the sins channels, all they do is nitpick the stupidest shit or things that make games great, make lame excuses for jokes, and overall just don’t understand anything
I absolutely hate it when I hear people criticize the "Hitchhikers may be escaping patients" sign. Roads in real life literally have that sign posted near prisons. It's not "bad security at Arkham," it's more great attention to detail. Something this game absolutely excels at!
I can see why several comments pointed me towards this video. Well done, good sir!
I've only tackled Dartigan's terrible Arkham Asylum video, but I'm planning on revisiting it to remake it of better quality and eventually will take a look at other games in the series.
I salute you on your takes 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I think a valid sin of the fake crash is how it has no staying power on a repeat play through. Also maybe one more for city is that why did Batman not get titan poisioning. Well the idea it’s titan poision makes no sense as it’s definitely jokers chemicals from before as no one else got titan poisioning. Also my main one is how in asylum I knew it was scarecrow the first time as joke said Jonathan Crane and I was expecting him. In the 3rd body bag I also guessed it was him and I was right. I love the atmosphere but if you know his name it losses it’s mystery and the fake death of Gordon has no effect
Pluh are you serious rn
I usually watch GCN & Gamingsins for the funny commentary and never take their "Sins" seriously.
But if you constantly nitpick everything you play & watch you'll never enjoy Video Games or Films or Shows then you'll never enjoy them as a art form or entertainment.
(Also wtf happened to Gamingsins?)
Their channel got hacked, so its all being uploaded on an archive channel now.
For the sin about the name tags just saying "doctor" it's Arkham Asylum god only knows how many doc's had their families killed by someone like joker or zaazs or even the families and the doc themselves being made teat subjects of people like scarecrow name tag's just saying doctor is probably one if the smartest idea's
I really hate how people are so cruel towards Bruce Wayne losing his parents.
Anyone losing a loved one wouldn't say this.
Anyone who has questioned that evidently did not read the comics like Year One. The time when everything to Batman was personal, despite 10-12 years passing with his parents' death.
And that's about it really, it is personal, Bruce has learned far deeper things beyond those events. It's not just because Batman's parents died, it's a whole lot of things at the same time up until this point.
When you called him out one the cinema sins wannabe comment over Harley I subscribed cuz that shit was so scathingly funny 😂
The phenomenon we see online of people having a complete lack of media literacy but still arrogantly acting like they know what they’re talking about, and dressing up their subjective opinions and outright nitpicks as being "objective critiques", as if there's any way to actually be objective when it comes to critiquing art outside of technical aspects just really gets on my nerves. I honestly do put a lot of the blame on Cinemasins for starting this trend. They hide behind their "Oh it's just satire" defense but it's clear that it's really a deflection to mask their nitpicky attitudes and their own lack of understanding.
And regardless of whether they're kidding or not, there are people who *do* actually take their reviews seriously and try to be critics in a similar manner as them. And in my view that makes it hard to ever really enjoy anything when you train yourself to always look for "plot holes" or "this isn’t how the real world works". Like no shit, that’s why it's FICTION, as long as it makes sense *within* that fictional world and has an internal logic, then who cares? This style of review and critique I believe takes away our ability to actually think critically about the media we consume because it often bogs down any deep levels of discussions and analysis.
Okay I see where your coming from, and while I don't know about the other three channels
( well I do know a little bit about GamingSins but not much )
In respect to someone like Charriii I really don't think the whole "some people will take what you say as serious criticisms" thing would apply when he literally starts every video he does with a disclaimer that literally says
"everything said in this video is a joke and shouldn't not be taken seriously and if something here sounds offensive to you then sorry for that"
I feel that if someone is to read or hear that and still do take it as serious criticism simply because "he presents it as if he knows what he's talking about" then that's on them not the creator of the video.
@@chaosprogrammer2219 as of the reason that they don't take the whole "criticism" thing a satire joke. You can say that it's on us not the creator, but it's the creator jobs to show the satire and not be entirely serious about it. people have problems with these types of things and for good reason, they dont show satire and they still uses "the satire deflection" to Avoid their own ironic criticism. All I am saying is that the creator should be showing the satire joke and stop just saying that it is satire.
@@williamfalcone7588 Well that's the thing, the whole thing is a joke. Nothing in the video is meant to be actual sins and are all just arbitrary. EWW videos are essentially (at least from what I understand) satirical parodies of those criticisms made by different critics of different (in this case videogames) media. The ones who look for any reason to say "X" is garbage or "X" is not as good as you think, these videos are pretty much meant to be over-exaggerated versions of those criticisms made to make fun of them which is where the satire comes from. Although you can say it's a double edged sword since some critics do say some really stupid stuff when critiquing something and some of the things they say are similar to the things said in these videos and it doesn't help that the guy who started all this ended up becoming the very Thing he was making fun of and the whole format now has this bad stigma surrounding it.