I have read the book. She (the author) is in fact discussing what was on the hard drives. In the book she explains that Usama did not have internet access (for security reasons) and that many of his "letters" were shared electronically via USB and other drives. So the drives were primarily letters and correspondence.
Summary: No hard drive info discussed. Book is being publicized. Music is clearly more important than the speaker. Viewers want to know:: How does vice manage to make such crappy videos and still end up in everyone’s recommended?
Long story short : Bin ladens daughter helped him write his letters. His son was depressed about whole incident. He was captured through the couriers he send.
I have read the book. She (the author) is in fact discussing what was on the hard drives. In the book she explains that Usama did not have internet access (for security reasons) and that many of his "letters" were shared electronically via USB and other drives. So the drives were primarily letters and correspondence.
As a native arabic speaker , those "letters" are written by a non-native arabic speaker. Take a screenshot @ 5:59 and 7:41 and ask a Native arabic speaker ,what he thinks ? 😅
I've seen hundreds of comments like this for almost a decade now. At what point do you just accept that MTV reality show stuff and culture war bs makes the money for them to do the "real journalism"? Welcome to the free market bills need to be paid.
This is the first time that I've experienced audio issues with VICE. Whatever was done, it was highly distracting from the important content/info being shared.
@user-fb1dr1pv7eОчень интересные наблюдения, никогда не думал об этих двойных стандартах. Хотя с итоговым выводом я не совсем согласен, потому что это явление должно классифицироваться иначе, нежели расизм или фашизм, потому как в фактических обстоятельствах отсутствуют важные признаки, присущие этим явлениям.
@user-fb1dr1pv7e - [Translated by ImTranslator and edited for clarity] The question is why are your Muslims not fleeing to the countries of Islam, where you have one faith, one people, [common] customs, climate, even food, but to Western countries to infidel infidels [sic]. Secondly, why do your Islamic countries, such as Saudi Arabia, the Gulf countries, etc ...not accept their refugees, fellow Muslims. Thirdly, why do you repeat from all sides that Islam is a religion of justice and equality [while this is not true. You] do not allow infidel kafirs-dhimmis [sic] into your cities of Mecca and Medina, but you are allowed everywhere; into the Vatican, into the temples of Buddha Krishna, the Western Wall, the Cathedral of Christ the Savior and other shrines of different faiths. Isn’t this racism, fascism and the division of people into first-class people; that is, you, Muslims, and other second-class untermensch? And also, why do you have the death penalty for Muslims who accepted another faith and left Islam, [while] at the same time you conduct open propaganda in Western countries and other non-Islamic countries to promote your Islam and even create Sharia militias there? ... This is a direct violation [of] the constitutions of those Western countries in which you live, which accepted you as refugees, [while] at the same time you prohibit the propaganda in your countries of any other faith other than Islam, and for [which] you are subject to the death penalty. Isn't this racism and Islamic fascism? Editor here. This is a universal complaint to which Muslims rarely, if ever, provide a coherent response. I agree with this post.
Watching the news won't make you smarter, the media serves politics ----------------------- Let’s study, philosophy, politics, business and social interaction, psychology, sociology, behavior. These are the truth about society.
Well, their religion is like 500 years behind the other big religions, they never had an enlightenment era, still stuck in dark ages pretty much, stoning, beheadings, hangings etc etc, so it makes sense their computers are just paper. In 480 years or so they will invent the fax machine over there and then we're in big trouble, because fax machines was the peak of human engineering.
I do give Vice props for the (serious) topics they chose to cover. It encourages me to do further research into whatever subject catches my interest. Keep me from slacking on an intellectual front, I guess you can say. Especially since finishing my BA. I'll be looking into this book for sure. So thanks.
BA in what? read what? If you have any idea about scientifically look at any issue. 1- see what al-qaeda is according to some government officials and experts on this issue ( an umbrella term for groups ...otherwise unrelated ) 2 names i know well who said this on tv are docters van leeuwen= coordinator anti-terrorism dutch government B de Graaf= professor terroris and advisor to Eu and dutch government and many more like them. 2- f the was a al qaeda... why did FBI report from 1997 say... oops sorry we were mislead. It does not exist 3- How convinient would a enemy be... when they are untraceable in any way... you can't capture a few and make them talk. You can't trace the money.... simply an invisible enemy.... with just a few faces.... with zero links to anything ( even cia came after some time and said that the video of osama was fake....but mission was accomplished.... whole world saw a edited video of laughing bin laden with family friends alledgedly being happy with his attack ) Etc. etc. etc. If you do not understand these simple questions and facts.... have fun reading this book.
The background music is too loud and competes with the softly spoken narration. Difficult to listen to. Also the narration is bassy and definitely not punchy enough. Sack the sound person.
I was actually hoping to find something out about what was in those files.... However the video could be summed up in less than a minute because there was hardly any information presented
@@breadgarlichouse2265Damm I ain’t gonna lie I was not expecting that one u did that u came out of left field outta Jupiter woah lmfaooo u won the deez nuts award for sure if they was to have one u won dude that was crazy that was insanity the way u came out of nowhere
5:54 the papers that were written in Arabic actually says that they founded medicines for the children which cures children such as cold flu etc and the next paragraph says and they founded medicines for older people. Idk where Vice got the security information and the shopping thing from😂.
'Founded' means built something from the ground. Did you mean They made their own medicine? Or they 'found' medicine out of nowhere just magically appeared near them?
Not "founded", actually they knew the medications that prescribeding to children in these situations and get a lot of it and kept it until they need it.
What i dont understand about this interview is we dont believe one side but because something else is in a letter in a building for a persons body we never really saw proof for is all a sudden 100% fact.
It's kinda like the death of Steve Irwin. They were filming when he got killed by a stingray but the footage was never released and was probably destroyed. The CIA saw no value of releasing actual footage of the operations, but it's there behind closed doors. The fact that Al Qaeda had been irrelevant for years and spotlight have been shifted to bigger players like the Islamic State means that Bin Laden had outlived his usefulness and there will be no second coming.
This is brilliant! Except for the audio! Who mixed this?? The levels on the background audio are brutal! WAY TOO HOT! Louder than the woman who is presenting!
Nice job, the intelligence community played a massive role to reveal Bin Laden's location. Thanks Vice for sharing it, it would be good to share the whole investigation.
I remember visiting Abbottabad a year after this scene. Was hella surprised to find a Pakistan Army military base, neighboring Osama's house. ISI definitely knew & gave him safe haven
Isi didn't know bin laden was in their back garden just as CIA didn't know 17 terrorist were about to hijack 4 aeroplanes through the most sophisticated airports
The background music prevents the actual words used in this video from being comprehensiv. Also it is ugly and clearly meant to suggest constant danger and tension. Wrong decision to Player it so loud when it shouldn't be there at all
You obviously didn't even look for answers. They didn't want his grave site to be ritualized by zealots so they threw him in the ocean where it's impossible to know where he ended up (outside of perhaps some intelligence agencies, but impossible for the public).
"Guy was more elusive than bigfoot, we wrapped him up in a towel and threw him in the sea for reasons unknown, but forgot to take an identifying photograph. Take our word for it!" - Bath house Barry, spokesperson for the deep state, 2011.
Lmao they didn't catch him come on be real the biggest terrorist in the world and u threw his body in the ocean rather than bring it back and parade it
I remember being in Grade 8 as a kid and hearing about Bin Laden's demise in the middle of History class. Growing up through the post 9/11 era, Bin Laden was probably the closest thing to Voldemort, to my immature brain. There's no doubt Bin Laden did terrible things, and it was worth it to destroy Al-Qaeda - But as me and my other pre-teen kids were patriotically cheering on the death of some warlord on the opposite side of the world, I remember my teacher's uncertain face. I think he was disturbed that innocent kids were so *gleeful* that this terrorist had died, and realized how post-9/11 reactionism had affected our still-growing brains. If there's anything to take away from the US / NATO's entire experience in the Middle East, is that social constructivism can't just be applied arbitrarily without regard for local customs. IMO the only way to get rid of an insurgency is to somehow encircle them (which is almost impossible with cell networks), or to sign armistice with them by making them turn in arms in favor of democratic political integration - However, that last method is basically what I said about the arbitrary application of social constructivism ^
Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9 11 to begin with. Secondly the US knew that was something going on and did nothing and in fact helped to bring the towers down by place cuttercharges or worse even atomic material to disintigrate the building to dust which is not in a normal controlled demolition. But yes it was a controlled demolition that is a fact.
@@zoybean Since their groups were active and recruiting all over the Middle East at that time, I can imagine how siding with the Al-Qaeda insurgency would be tantamount to not upholding the post-Cold War geopolitical norm of respecting state sovereignty - After all their primary goal was about the creation of a modern caliphate. That would have been impossible to consider in the pre-9/11 era with the UN doing peacekeeping to help turbulent countries retain sovereignty & basic order, so I'm not sure how wrong I really am. Avoiding them is a whole other story. Sure, the US could have retaliated with a much more surgical invasion that didn't involve conventional elements - But you have to understand how that would have been seen back then: Up until that point, the US had one peaceful decade and a half to play the role of the world's cop. Not retaliating would have made the Al-Qaeda a recruitment magnet for millions in the region, and other similar insurgencies around the world would be emboldened.
@@XiangYu94 False again. Al Qaeda did not have the goal of creating a global Caliphate; that's ISIS. Al Qaeda wanted to remove US troops from Saudi Arabian and other Muslim majority states. The US uses proxies against their other enemies; Al Qaeda is an American ally in Syria. By avoiding, I am referring to US policy insisting on being the policeman of the world, bringing itself into confrontation with locals. It's own hubris of that 1.5 decade is the reason for its downfall.
I highly doubt the story of how they found him with the courier, way to convenient. I rather think it was a walk in from a Pakistani military intelligence. Either way there’s no way the Pakistani ISI had no idea he was in their own front garden!
Like many mentioned in the comments, Vice shared very little important or interesting information about this individual, also known by his operative name, Tim Osman.
@@berniesully9173 What do you mean by that? Are you saying the president of the united states is a war criminal for being at the head of the atrocities in which a thousand fold in innocent casualties occured, in which TRILLIONS of your dollars were stolen from you to give to weapon makers? What do you mean?
@@berniesully9173 Is this right? "Dilawar, who died on December 10, 2002, was a 22-year-old Afghan taxi driver and farmer who weighed 122 pounds and was described by his interpreters as neither violent nor aggressive. When beaten, he repeatedly cried "Allah!" The outcry appears to have amused U.S. military personnel.[citation needed] The act of striking him in order to provoke a scream of "Allah!" eventually "became a kind of running joke," according to one of the MPs.[citation needed] "People kept showing up to give this detainee a common peroneal strike just to hear him scream out 'Allah,'" he said.[citation needed] "It went on over a 24-hour period, and I would think that it was over 100 strikes."
On the day of his death, Dilawar had been chained by the wrists to the top of his cell for much of the previous four days. A guard tried to force the young man to his knees. But his legs, which had been pummeled by guards for several days, could no longer bend. An interrogator told Mr. Dilawar that he could see a doctor after they finished with him. When he was finally sent back to his cell, though, the guards were instructed only to chain the prisoner back to the ceiling. "Leave him up," one of the guards quoted Specialist Claus as saying. Several hours passed before an emergency room doctor finally saw Mr. Dilawar. By then he was dead, his body beginning to stiffen. It would be many months before Army investigators learned a final horrific detail: Most of the interrogators had believed Mr. Dilawar was an innocent man who simply drove his taxi past the American base at the wrong time
I clicked on this video and sat through its entirety to hear about the hentai games in his hard drive. Got no mention of anything except corespondent letters. 0/10. (LOL)
Lol, as an Arabic speaker the letters displayed are gibberish, no Arab would write in this manner. Its like someone saying "I was I'm feel really was in saddend by why is happen"
Not me wondering if those hard drives showed how much of your tax dollars were sent to him during the Reagan and Bush Sr administrations.... He used to work for us!!!!
I love how this video never discusses ANYTHING regarding what was actually on any of the drives
Read the book, right?
Yea its annoying, its like an ad for the book
Thanks the for heads up. Disliking the video
@@halakajajajaj😅🎉
I have read the book. She (the author) is in fact discussing what was on the hard drives. In the book she explains that Usama did not have internet access (for security reasons) and that many of his "letters" were shared electronically via USB and other drives. So the drives were primarily letters and correspondence.
Summary:
No hard drive info discussed.
Book is being publicized.
Music is clearly more important than the speaker.
Viewers want to know::
How does vice manage to make such crappy videos and still end up in everyone’s recommended?
Chances are its just a propaganda piece.
thanks, now I don't have to watch this
Much true, but, it is an entry into more inquiry and questions would love to see a better summarised vid about this any1 have a link? Rumble yt etc?
Because UA-cam is apart of the leftist/liberal pushing media, and VICE is the best at propaganda.
Vice went from Soros owned to Saudi propaganda which might explain this very informative piece...
Long story short : Bin ladens daughter helped him write his letters. His son was depressed about whole incident. He was captured through the couriers he send.
Thanks CatGPT
Wish I’d seen this comment eleven minutes ago, lol.
@@iterativegrowth Most of these videos have only 2-3 points to make which they extrapolate to 20 - 40 minutes 😶🌫️
@@mallukittens177 exploit that CatGPT name and use it for stupidly long videos
@@iterativegrowth😂
I have read the book. She (the author) is in fact discussing what was on the hard drives. In the book she explains that Usama did not have internet access (for security reasons) and that many of his "letters" were shared electronically via USB and other drives. So the drives were primarily letters and correspondence.
As a native arabic speaker , those "letters" are written by a non-native arabic speaker. Take a screenshot @ 5:59 and 7:41 and ask a Native arabic speaker ,what he thinks ? 😅
@@BrokeImmigrantInc. thank you for pointing out these discrepancies was almost to believe Bin is as evil as they wanted him to be .
@@BrokeImmigrantInc. As a native Arabic speaker, it seems the letter is a translation of an English writing.
But why would he write letters in english ??@@SA_Rocket
Don't get me wrong , he's one evil mofo lol@@drive-2786
"Based on all the papers" and by that she means "all the papers the pentagon decided to release" 😂😂😂😂
Or all the papers the pentagon has created. Everything is possible. 😅
😂😂😂😂
or rolling papers
Why is the audio quality so terrible? The bg music is way too loud and seems completely random to what's being shown.
Yea it true at 9:10 its so loud u can bearly hear her spaeking
Vice is on autopilot until collapse
its because they literally have interns creating web content since they are bankrupt. hence the lower quality and re=hashing old stories
@@halakajajajaj you mean 9:11? HayoooooooooOOOO
@@samward7921wow😢
My favorite part was when the lady was whisper talking and the extremely loud planetarium synth music was drowning out everything she was saying
I especially liked that it was at a pivotal part of the recording
someone at Vice bout to drop the sickest ambient EP of 2023
Exactly. So distracting
The video editor needs to be let go
fake.
You need to play that background music louder. I could still hear the author.
lmfaoo
🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 yoooo
😆😆
loud music drowns out the dialogue.
Seriously, whoever decided to crank the dramatic music over the vocal audio needs to find a different vocation.
Yo soundguy, easy on the levels man, I'm trying to hear this woman
hear deez nuts 🥜
i was just about to say!
Thank you for saying this !!
Yeah, this is ridiculous. How does something this simple slip through? A 10 year old can tell you it's too loud and even how to fix it.
I didnt even notice it, but im watching on a laptop, maybe its different on a TV or phone?
You literally can't hear what she's saying half the time with how loud the background music is, Vice.
you literally can't hear
i heard every word
Change your headphones
It's a perfect mix. You need new speakers
@@thedappercook lol no not at the end
I can hear every word.
Vice is finally doing real journalism again.
@laverdadescatolica5 Vice News tonight was great when it was on HBO, and then around 2018 it started going down hill. They really are trying now.
@@Supreme-SEFis that what you took from it damn 🤦🏾♂️
@laverdadescatolica5
>his mother
no😂
Bruh there always some dumbass saying the same comment “vice doing great journalism again”…
I've seen hundreds of comments like this for almost a decade now. At what point do you just accept that MTV reality show stuff and culture war bs makes the money for them to do the "real journalism"? Welcome to the free market bills need to be paid.
This leaves me with more questions than answers.
Music around @9:00 is too loud … thank you for posting something I was literally thinking about the other day :)
I missed the part where they showed anything from the harddrives 😂
You know the content's been released to the public since 2016 and is just a Google search away, right?
@@craggleshenanigansso that's why they can't show anything from it
Lazy
@@craggleshenanigansyou know this video’s title implied it did that for us. But it didn’t. That’s all the OP is pointing out. Dunce hats
@@craggleshenanigansat least 125 likes would agree vs ……just you.
Music is a little too loud at times. Overall and as always from Vice great journalism!
"As always"?
That's a damn funny joke.
Absolutely. How is the bg sound fill louder than the narrator / speaker's voice? The sound mixing is a joke, completely amateur. @@lostinspace4417
You have volume rocker, they meant to use
I agree with u, too loud
Can't hear a damn thing
This is the first time that I've experienced audio issues with VICE. Whatever was done, it was highly distracting from the important content/info being shared.
The background music was too loud, drowning the reporter's audio at times. But otherwise very interesting and informative.
@user-fb1dr1pv7eОчень интересные наблюдения, никогда не думал об этих двойных стандартах. Хотя с итоговым выводом я не совсем согласен, потому что это явление должно классифицироваться иначе, нежели расизм или фашизм, потому как в фактических обстоятельствах отсутствуют важные признаки, присущие этим явлениям.
@robertporter8974 not informative AT ALL, are you high?
I don't suppose Vice will ever see this comment, but you should know your background din (music??) will make me unlikely to ever click on Vice again.
@user-fb1dr1pv7e - [Translated by ImTranslator and edited for clarity]
The question is why are your Muslims not fleeing to the countries of Islam, where you have one faith, one people, [common] customs, climate, even food, but to Western countries to infidel infidels [sic].
Secondly, why do your Islamic countries, such as Saudi Arabia, the Gulf countries, etc ...not accept their refugees, fellow Muslims.
Thirdly, why do you repeat from all sides that Islam is a religion of justice and equality [while this is not true. You] do not allow infidel kafirs-dhimmis [sic] into your cities of Mecca and Medina, but you are allowed everywhere; into the Vatican, into the temples of Buddha Krishna, the Western Wall, the Cathedral of Christ the Savior and other shrines of different faiths.
Isn’t this racism, fascism and the division of people into first-class people; that is, you, Muslims, and other second-class untermensch? And also, why do you have the death penalty for Muslims who accepted another faith and left Islam, [while] at the same time you conduct open propaganda in Western countries and other non-Islamic countries to promote your Islam and even create Sharia militias there? ...
This is a direct violation [of] the constitutions of those Western countries in which you live, which accepted you as refugees, [while] at the same time you prohibit the propaganda in your countries of any other faith other than Islam, and for [which] you are subject to the death penalty. Isn't this racism and Islamic fascism?
Editor here. This is a universal complaint to which Muslims rarely, if ever, provide a coherent response. I agree with this post.
The fact that we get free videos from VICE News on UA-cam is priceless; keeping the education and knowledge alive. 🙏🙏🙏
Watching the news won't make you smarter, the media serves politics
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Let’s study, philosophy, politics, business and social interaction, psychology, sociology, behavior. These are the truth about society.
There is not a single word about the contents of the Hard Drives.... Vice, WTH?
www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/index.html
Yeah, wtf is this click bait garbage.
I'd like to hear more about the other files and media on there too, but the point is that the letters were on the hard drives.
Damn i guess Bin Laden's hard drives were made of paper
Well, their religion is like 500 years behind the other big religions, they never had an enlightenment era, still stuck in dark ages pretty much, stoning, beheadings, hangings etc etc, so it makes sense their computers are just paper. In 480 years or so they will invent the fax machine over there and then we're in big trouble, because fax machines was the peak of human engineering.
right? wtf was she even talking about, bs click bait video
Hard copies.
Awesome reporting. Would have been even better if we could all hear it.
hmm... is this documentary (or whatever it's called) just try to promote the book? that's true tho it feels like the so many atuff that missing
@@muhammadawaludinnurfauzi4693 Diego is talking about the music being too loud
@@hikiwi ou... sorry... I thought he was talking about the information the she told to us🤣🤣🤣
I thought that was an issue with my phone 🤣 just an editing goof
Clean the wax out of your ears BUD.... what a piece of work you are BUD
This is the Vice that I signed up for. Well done.
The sound is ridiculous.
Please make another part on this!! It’s so interesting
I do give Vice props for the (serious) topics they chose to cover. It encourages me to do further research into whatever subject catches my interest. Keep me from slacking on an intellectual front, I guess you can say. Especially since finishing my BA.
I'll be looking into this book for sure. So thanks.
Mind Begs the Question:
- CIA caught sleeping by Al Qaida
- Mossad caught sleeping by Hamas
- Coincidental?
There work for the feds
I smell a fake.
@@linanicolia1363 yea sure whatever.
BA in what? read what? If you have any idea about scientifically look at any issue.
1- see what al-qaeda is according to some government officials and experts on this issue ( an umbrella term for groups ...otherwise unrelated ) 2 names i know well who said this on tv are docters van leeuwen= coordinator anti-terrorism dutch government
B de Graaf= professor terroris and advisor to Eu and dutch government and many more like them.
2- f the was a al qaeda... why did FBI report from 1997 say... oops sorry we were mislead. It does not exist
3- How convinient would a enemy be... when they are untraceable in any way... you can't capture a few and make them talk. You can't trace the money.... simply an invisible enemy.... with just a few faces.... with zero links to anything ( even cia came after some time and said that the video of osama was fake....but mission was accomplished.... whole world saw a edited video of laughing bin laden with family friends alledgedly being happy with his attack )
Etc. etc. etc.
If you do not understand these simple questions and facts.... have fun reading this book.
If they don't discuss the hard drives.....isn't that click bait. Ugh. They got me.
Asset for CIA and a fake terrorist. Someone to blame for that inside job and invade...
The background music is too loud and competes with the softly spoken narration. Difficult to listen to. Also the narration is bassy and definitely not punchy enough. Sack the sound person.
I was actually hoping to find something out about what was in those files.... However the video could be summed up in less than a minute because there was hardly any information presented
present deez nuts 🥜
@@breadgarlichouse2265Damm I ain’t gonna lie I was not expecting that one u did that u came out of left field outta Jupiter woah lmfaooo u won the deez nuts award for sure if they was to have one u won dude that was crazy that was insanity the way u came out of nowhere
Rip to the deez nuts 🥜 og I was actually sharing a 2 bed apartment with him that’s why it hits home
DEEZ NUTS 🥜
TAKE Dese these what? Deez nuts 🥜
5:54 the papers that were written in Arabic actually says that they founded medicines for the children which cures children such as cold flu etc and the next paragraph says and they founded medicines for older people. Idk where Vice got the security information and the shopping thing from😂.
'Founded' means built something from the ground.
Did you mean They made their own medicine? Or they 'found' medicine out of nowhere just magically appeared near them?
Do you think the papers at 5:59 and 7:41 are written by a native arabic speaker ?
Just like the letter with the weekdays names😂
@@shabrinaz9877 Probably he meant "funded" you know when you pay for something.
Not "founded", actually they knew the medications that prescribeding to children in these situations and get a lot of it and kept it until they need it.
It would be nice to hear what this person is saying. Whoever did the audio for this needs help.
Why repost very old news?
How about shutting off the stupid loud sound effects while the presenter is explaining things!
What i dont understand about this interview is we dont believe one side but because something else is in a letter in a building for a persons body we never really saw proof for is all a sudden 100% fact.
It's kinda like the death of Steve Irwin. They were filming when he got killed by a stingray but the footage was never released and was probably destroyed.
The CIA saw no value of releasing actual footage of the operations, but it's there behind closed doors. The fact that Al Qaeda had been irrelevant for years and spotlight have been shifted to bigger players like the Islamic State means that Bin Laden had outlived his usefulness and there will be no second coming.
This is brilliant! Except for the audio! Who mixed this?? The levels on the background audio are brutal! WAY TOO HOT! Louder than the woman who is presenting!
They did it so that viewers don't hear or understand a thing
Please make the music louder I can still faintly hear what she's saying
Audio mixing is bad
Fake description and thumbnail...reported as clickbait
Technically he wasn't killed, he was murdered without trial. I really don't care, but technically it's true.
100% American should have sent him a notice to come to America and face the Court 😂😂😂
@@ArtaxWild101kangaroo courts??
I mean…he couldn’t even choose his last meal! The audacity!
@@hanzalaomar9915 so you want an Islamic Court?😂
He was armed and when you're armed you get shot.
Nice job, the intelligence community played a massive role to reveal Bin Laden's location. Thanks Vice for sharing it, it would be good to share the whole investigation.
Bin Laden died in 2001. The 2011 assassination was a total hoax
Been there 2 years next to military base, our fbi not as smart as people think, or they just lieing out there mouths
Too much background music , STOP IT YOU AMATEURS
Misleading title ....
The guy who shot " him".. said that no Osama Bin Laden was in that house.. the guy he killed looked nothing like Osama.
Too many lame sound effects that make it difficult to hear what the lady is saying. Your editors failed.
I missed the part where she said what she said.
Very interesting, again well done for returning to real journalism. This is whats makes the world better vice!
I remember visiting Abbottabad a year after this scene. Was hella surprised to find a Pakistan Army military base, neighboring Osama's house. ISI definitely knew & gave him safe haven
Not a military base. It’s a a military school called PMA.
Pakistan is incompetent fools + islamic
I NEVER been there but I knew they was covering up for him.😊
Either way the area has a HEAVY military presence :) @@SatanSplainer
Isi didn't know bin laden was in their back garden just as CIA didn't know 17 terrorist were about to hijack 4 aeroplanes through the most sophisticated airports
What is the point of this video? Also the sound editing is a bit over the top
Amerika had troops 🪖 in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 prior to September 11th 2001.... gee I wonder how they knew? 🤔 how'd those clever Muslims Rig WTC 7 ???
The background music prevents the actual words used in this video from being comprehensiv. Also it is ugly and clearly meant to suggest constant danger and tension. Wrong decision to Player it so loud when it shouldn't be there at all
The biggest scam of this century yet
Religion is the worlds biggest scam…😊🇺🇸🍻✌🏻
Feels like the video needs to be twice as long
NO THIS PROPAGANDA NEEDS TO BE DELETED
back in the day nobody had computers. we had to write on paper hard drives and send them through a courier
Can’t hear anything because of the music
Why did we never see his body or the footage of the capture. Why did they throw his body overboard without verified dna tests .. so many questions…
Exactly that's what I'm saying. All to suspicious
There were DNA tests done.
But they showed saddum Hussain sons dead on a slab😅
@@wandahargrove6109 really ? Could you post links ?
You obviously didn't even look for answers.
They didn't want his grave site to be ritualized by zealots so they threw him in the ocean where it's impossible to know where he ended up (outside of perhaps some intelligence agencies, but impossible for the public).
"Guy was more elusive than bigfoot, we wrapped him up in a towel and threw him in the sea for reasons unknown, but forgot to take an identifying photograph. Take our word for it!" - Bath house Barry, spokesperson for the deep state, 2011.
Hey chef, can you make me one of those Hawaiian pizzas sure barry coming right up?
Lmao they didn't catch him come on be real the biggest terrorist in the world and u threw his body in the ocean rather than bring it back and parade it
bro the music/sound effects in the video is ridiculously loud
What was the point of this video? What were the revelations???
Very informative, thank you Vice. Nelly's narration is captivating!
I remember being in Grade 8 as a kid and hearing about Bin Laden's demise in the middle of History class. Growing up through the post 9/11 era, Bin Laden was probably the closest thing to Voldemort, to my immature brain.
There's no doubt Bin Laden did terrible things, and it was worth it to destroy Al-Qaeda - But as me and my other pre-teen kids were patriotically cheering on the death of some warlord on the opposite side of the world, I remember my teacher's uncertain face. I think he was disturbed that innocent kids were so *gleeful* that this terrorist had died, and realized how post-9/11 reactionism had affected our still-growing brains.
If there's anything to take away from the US / NATO's entire experience in the Middle East, is that social constructivism can't just be applied arbitrarily without regard for local customs. IMO the only way to get rid of an insurgency is to somehow encircle them (which is almost impossible with cell networks), or to sign armistice with them by making them turn in arms in favor of democratic political integration - However, that last method is basically what I said about the arbitrary application of social constructivism ^
Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9 11 to begin with. Secondly the US knew that was something going on and did nothing and in fact helped to bring the towers down by place cuttercharges or worse even atomic material to disintigrate the building to dust which is not in a normal controlled demolition. But yes it was a controlled demolition that is a fact.
You're still wrong. You get rid of them by being on their side, or avoiding the issue which caused an insurgency in the first place ie invasion
i don't believe anything the American media said about him then and now.
@@zoybean Since their groups were active and recruiting all over the Middle East at that time, I can imagine how siding with the Al-Qaeda insurgency would be tantamount to not upholding the post-Cold War geopolitical norm of respecting state sovereignty - After all their primary goal was about the creation of a modern caliphate. That would have been impossible to consider in the pre-9/11 era with the UN doing peacekeeping to help turbulent countries retain sovereignty & basic order, so I'm not sure how wrong I really am.
Avoiding them is a whole other story. Sure, the US could have retaliated with a much more surgical invasion that didn't involve conventional elements - But you have to understand how that would have been seen back then: Up until that point, the US had one peaceful decade and a half to play the role of the world's cop. Not retaliating would have made the Al-Qaeda a recruitment magnet for millions in the region, and other similar insurgencies around the world would be emboldened.
@@XiangYu94 False again. Al Qaeda did not have the goal of creating a global Caliphate; that's ISIS. Al Qaeda wanted to remove US troops from Saudi Arabian and other Muslim majority states. The US uses proxies against their other enemies; Al Qaeda is an American ally in Syria.
By avoiding, I am referring to US policy insisting on being the policeman of the world, bringing itself into confrontation with locals. It's own hubris of that 1.5 decade is the reason for its downfall.
I highly doubt the story of how they found him with the courier, way to convenient. I rather think it was a walk in from a Pakistani military intelligence. Either way there’s no way the Pakistani ISI had no idea he was in their own front garden!
Opening up Bin Laden's secret SSDs isn't a hard task
I still don't believe they killed him
Did they? It's so weird they threw the body in the sea.
What would you do with it, make him a martyr with a Michael Jackson sized tomb? 😂😅😂
He was an American 😂😂
Anything from vice now I secondguess the authenticity as well as the agenda
But you believe David ick's claim of reptilian people without question.
You know people have different beliefs and different opinions let me guess your a tate fanboy ?
I learned not very much, thank you
Yo, the background music is WAY too loud towards the end of the video. Otherwise a very fascinating video. Man that was painful though.
VICE has still got the magic
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You never killed Osama.
I have sympathies for western people who believe anything that internet shows them. They don't deserved to be lied to.
Rllly
they took the body and threw it overboard in a middle of the sea, so wierd. they killed a huy they made uyp so they could invade irak for the oil.
@@seansvensson4400go see a psychiatrist bro. Seriously.
Like many mentioned in the comments, Vice shared very little important or interesting information about this individual, also known by his operative name, Tim Osman.
Operation Northwoods also comes to mind. Same plan, different country as the target.
I agree 💯.
EVERYONE GIVE THIS VID A THUMBS DOWN FOR MISLEADING TITLE. THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WAS IN THE HARD DRIVES
I swear this video is just an ad for the book... I got clickbaited by VICE, which doesnt happen too often by this team. Im dissappointed.
I'm highly skeptical about anything they show about what they "found".
This man was not brought infront of a jury and tried, we did not get to hear what he has to say, this isnt justice.
And the people killed in 9-11 didn't get justice so why should he ?
And the people killed in 9-11 didn't get justice so why should he ?
@@berniesully9173 What do you mean by that?
Are you saying the president of the united states is a war criminal for being at the head of the atrocities in which a thousand fold in innocent casualties occured, in which TRILLIONS of your dollars were stolen from you to give to weapon makers?
What do you mean?
@@berniesully9173 Is this right?
"Dilawar, who died on December 10, 2002, was a 22-year-old Afghan taxi driver and farmer who weighed 122 pounds and was described by his interpreters as neither violent nor aggressive.
When beaten, he repeatedly cried "Allah!" The outcry appears to have amused U.S. military personnel.[citation needed] The act of striking him in order to provoke a scream of "Allah!" eventually "became a kind of running joke," according to one of the MPs.[citation needed] "People kept showing up to give this detainee a common peroneal strike just to hear him scream out 'Allah,'" he said.[citation needed] "It went on over a 24-hour period, and I would think that it was over 100 strikes."
On the day of his death, Dilawar had been chained by the wrists to the top of his cell for much of the previous four days.
A guard tried to force the young man to his knees. But his legs, which had been pummeled by guards for several days, could no longer bend. An interrogator told Mr. Dilawar that he could see a doctor after they finished with him. When he was finally sent back to his cell, though, the guards were instructed only to chain the prisoner back to the ceiling.
"Leave him up," one of the guards quoted Specialist Claus as saying. Several hours passed before an emergency room doctor finally saw Mr. Dilawar. By then he was dead, his body beginning to stiffen.
It would be many months before Army investigators learned a final horrific detail: Most of the interrogators had believed Mr. Dilawar was an innocent man who simply drove his taxi past the American base at the wrong time
I clicked on this video and sat through its entirety to hear about the hentai games in his hard drive. Got no mention of anything except corespondent letters. 0/10. (LOL)
OMG LOL! LOL!
Yeh sure I’m guessing you had 21 years to right all the lies
No reason to believe any of this is true
How about the "letter to the Americans?"🤔
Lol, as an Arabic speaker the letters displayed are gibberish, no Arab would write in this manner.
Its like someone saying "I was I'm feel really was in saddend by why is happen"
Wasn't he a cia agent?!
No but was funded by the CIA to fight soviet union
Yes. A CIA asset
So was Obama
And Anderson Cooper
No Tim Osman wasn't an agent 😉😜
@@BrokeImmigrantInc.Thought you were gonna say Tim Dillion because he was
VICE click baits with misleading title.
Instead VICE advertises some book.
VICE gets a dislike. 👎
Not me wondering if those hard drives showed how much of your tax dollars were sent to him during the Reagan and Bush Sr administrations.... He used to work for us!!!!
I'm going to keep believing the video of him singing *"Poker face"* is real
Its not ? 😢
@@user-hk5bj4yj9tit actually is that’s the crazy part about this thing called life
*clickbait*
Fascinating. A book to add to the Xmas list
OBL did not attack the United States on 9/11,was not killed in Pakistan and was not buried after a respectful Muslim burial at sea.
A lot of words but 0 information of anything at all.
Imagine waking up one day, and you and your family are the targets (scape goats) of the best military in the world...
😅😅
I'm not convinced that he was responsible for 9/11.
Good thing the decision was not up to you
Good video but the background music overpowers the speaker half way through the video. Weird.
Looks like some audio issues woth too loud music at the end
So you telling me that, their next door neighbor had no clue who they were, but you somehow knew their daily schedule 😂😂😂😂😂 come on
The backgroud music is WAAAAYYYYY too loud. WHY?!
Lies where is the body I mean we all saw sadam hanging but question about laden still a mastery
I wonder what we’ll find if we check the US Government’s files 👀
Super loud background music; you can just tell this video wasn't reviewed before they uploaded it to this channel
my god turn the music down. she is very soft spoken and it's hard to hear her over the loud background music
very nice. the music takes it way over the top, for me
Music was wayyy too loud, unable to hear actual dialogue