Changing is so hard. How does a woman with children leave without their children especially when they have no skills or a way to support themself. It is heartbreaking.
Hello from Australia 🇦🇺 😊 Thanks guys for Sharing & Bringing out the Awareness...God Bless you all, God Bless Mr Mike King, he Cares for children, his a Very Humble man🙏🙏🙏
Sam & Melissa, Thanks for Having Mike King on!!!♥ I've been a follower of his channel for several years. Mike is always delightful, fun, and has good content to help viewers understand the legal process. I always like hearing his take on a case or his expertise applied to a situation from his experience as a law officer. So glad to see you pairing up with him! You all make a delightful trio.
One of those UPS drivers saved a boy's life one time. We were down by the creek, watching a flash flood, and a boy fell in. His body washed up on the bank a little ways down, and we thought he was dead. The UPS truck had just driven up across the river. He saw what was going on, drove through the raging water to the other side, and started CPR on the kid.
Finally had a chance to listen to this episode. This was an amazing episode. I loved hearing Mike tell about his relationship with Sam’s father, and probably a gift to Sam to hear about the interactions of someone who knew his dad as an adult.
Looking forward to part 2 on Friday. Incredible that one woman reaching out for help started this journey. Some things are just meant to be. Happy Thanksgiving, on my gratitude list is this channel, you are helping others understand the complexities of FLDS and providing assistance to those wanting a new life.
Loved the seasonal background ✨ I appreciate Sam always taking a moment to highlight the compassionate side of the community he grew up in- like the mention of the prayers for the post office workers regardless of their uniforms not aligning with the teachings.
What an unexpected treat seeing you guys on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.🤗 I look forward to the regular Friday uplads, and it's always awesome whenever you have guests on with you. I've also watched the Profiling Evil channel with Mike and I loved his profile of the FLDS. I knew it was but a matter of time for you guys to hook up eventually. Great Show guys, can't wait for part 2.
I’m an early follower of both P.E and GUIP, it is refreshing when your favorite YT moderators come together to discuss mutually known topics. I appreciate the content. I also believe speaking the truth about your experiences is passing it forward to those struggling with their religion.
I left the Roman Catholic church before the child molestation became public knowledge. But for my mother I don't think she ever came to terms with it. I think priests should marry, but she was aghast at the idea. But for the children involved it spiritually twists them. Personally I turned to the New Testament because this is Christianity. It is what Christ taught and I think he is a very good role model.
People are so pressured to stay in the church and tithe. No organization does this except that it's profitable for those at the top . At the same time, so many positions done by volunteers. Does it occur to anyone that purchases of "sacred" items, such as rare books or plates are a form of money laundering? Where does that money go?
Very good, thank you. The question about how do you make a 14 year old girl aware that "marrying" at that age is against Utah law was interesting. I suppose if you are taught al your life that the law of the state is wrong (eg even here in the UK a Catholic girl might be told abortion is a moral wrong so would not believe it was okay despite the law saying so) is an illustration of that issue. At what age particular countries set the age of consent (16 in the UK with age for marriage in England rising to 18 in 2023, but not the age for couples to have relations) also makes it hard for people to know what is the moral wrong. In the Little House on the Prairie books writing about the 1800s I always remember a bit in the Shores of Silver Lake being surprised at hose the marriage of a 13 year old was regarded then - Laura and her cousin thought it was too young to have the responsibility of a child to look after, but no one wrote that it was an affront or moral wrong. If Warren J has just followed the law and married girls a bit older he could have avoided most of this trouble. It is not as if his religious faith says girls have to marry at 14 by any means at all.
I might read his books; they are on Kindle for a good price. This video is early, new schedule? Choir is brining boxed Thanksgiving dinners today at 3 pm. Happy Holidays. I hope you get good black Friday deals.
I love your videos for their transparency and respectful approach to the FLDS. I also know you must be so worried about family members who still are inside the FLDS. Please, please tell me you or someone who has access to these evil rants from Warren Jeffs has altered law enforcement to the potential danger of them.
I just resubscribed for the third time! No idea how it keeps unsubscribing, but this is one of my favorite channels, and I know I wouldn’t do it. Y’all check your subscriptions and be sure you’re subscribed!
Makes my heart go out to all the flds as its so hard for them to understand that there being abused and even when there old there still being abused as there freedom has been taken away and sadly some never had freedom in there life's. There is a youtube family I think called David and april orgill there both lds now however April mother use to be flds but she left I think just before warren Jeff's became prophet might be something you guys could look into
Fantastic. I'd be really interested in what happened to Willie Jessop as I know he showed Oprah Winfrey around the YFZ ranch on an episode many year's ago. Then spoke to Oprah a couple of year's later denouncing any knowledge of activities at the ranch.?? That would be interesting Keep up the fabulous content 🇬🇧
@@piratesswoop725 thanks really fascinated by these cults. Living in the 🇬🇧 and being English and not being brought up remotely religious. It's just so interesting, and so far removed from anything I've ever seen or known.
@@lucybarker1330 No, Warren arbitrarily took away his priesthood, so Willie basically decided that he was done defending him if that’s what was done to him after all the defending he did of Warren. He said the FBI also sent him a copy of the Merrianne Jessop tape and another tape where Warren admitted to SA-ing his own sisters and also denying being the prophet.
As an ex-Mormon, I know first hand that it's not only the FLDS cult that sexually abuse children. SA happens in the LDS cult as well. In fact, SA occurs in all religions. IMO all religions are cults. Happy to be an ex-Mormon atheist. I love Sam and Melissa.
Is Willy Jessop still an active member in the FLDS? I know he owns Warren Jeff's home and turned it into a hotel. But I am also aware that his wives and children run the hotel. I was just cirous is he was a non member who has still chosen to be loyal to his wives.
Yes, that group practices plural marriage. They are independent of the FLDS. Some of them may have been part of the FLDS at some point in their family history, but that's never been clear to me. The Stockton/Humansville group has its roots in the Apostolic United Brethren (AUB) also known as the Allred Group, but it remains an independent sect since the early 1980s. In a sense, the Missouri sect as a whole does share common roots with the Short Creek polygamists. Long story short - the AUB split away from the base of the Short Creek polygamists in the mid-1950s after the death of Joseph White Musser. At issue in the split was, for lack of a better term, a succession dispute. After Musser's death, the Short Creek group followed Leroy Johnson as their prophet. The AUB leader was Rulon C. Allred. (Allred was murdered in 1977 on the order of Ervil LeBaron. That's a whole 'nother story about fundamentalist LDS families.)
Their donation cause is through Donor Box, not UA-cam. Sam and Melissa are just using their UA-cam channel to share the link. Same idea as someone sharing a GoFundMe link on, say Facebook. Hope that helps you!
You guys are much nicer than I am. I would think if you found out you were wrong and using GOD to justify all your past transgressions then spend the rest of your life trying to make amends. That would be closer to GOD than just continuing in the evil you thought was right. So, all those 85- and 65-year-olds should be donating and working big time for this organization to help these young people.
The problem is Mike is obviously devout main stream LDS. What he is failing to tell the viewers is at this same time frame when the state allocated all this money to investigate ritual sex abuse in Utah the daughter and son in law of Russell M Nelson the current prophet in 2023 was implicated in ritual sex abuse. This case was kicked out because the statutes of limitations were exceeded. The former governor of Utahs brother David Levitt is also under investigation for Ritual Sexual Abuse. I hope Mike would be able as a devote Mormon to be able to put victims first in these cases but like FLDS police officers did at the time don’t hold your breath. Mike is beholden to another cult. Perhaps a good cult like he refers to in this video.
Thanks Sam and Melissa. So enjoyable spending time with you. I look forward to reading the comments and listening to part 2. Enjoy Thanksgiving! -Mike
Wow! Those poor children suffered at the hands of people who claimed to be religious. I'm thrilled that you had Mike as a guest. He has a kind heart.
they are religious. they just don't share your religion
Fun joining Sam and Melissa Elizabeth. Thanks for supporting them!
Evil is in every human. The more power they have the greater the temptation for sin.
Changing is so hard. How does a woman with children leave without their children especially when they have no skills or a way to support themself. It is heartbreaking.
Hello from Australia 🇦🇺 😊 Thanks guys for Sharing & Bringing out the Awareness...God Bless you all, God Bless Mr Mike King, he Cares for children, his a Very Humble man🙏🙏🙏
Sam & Melissa, Thanks for Having Mike King on!!!♥ I've been a follower of his channel for several years. Mike is always delightful, fun, and has good content to help viewers understand the legal process. I always like hearing his take on a case or his expertise applied to a situation from his experience as a law officer. So glad to see you pairing up with him! You all make a delightful trio.
One of those UPS drivers saved a boy's life one time. We were down by the creek, watching a flash flood, and a boy fell in. His body washed up on the bank a little ways down, and we thought he was dead. The UPS truck had just driven up across the river. He saw what was going on, drove through the raging water to the other side, and started CPR on the kid.
Finally had a chance to listen to this episode. This was an amazing episode. I loved hearing Mike tell about his relationship with Sam’s father, and probably a gift to Sam to hear about the interactions of someone who knew his dad as an adult.
I'm a big fan of Mike king! Super excited to see what he has to say!
This 2 part series was great!
Very interesting to hear from the gentleman from profilingevil through a legal view point! Thank you so much for this. Very good !
So interesting, I've been loving the content you've been making lately! Keep it up! (And love the new background 😊).
I was excited when this popped up. I love Mike’s channel and his books are excellent.
Looking forward to part 2 on Friday. Incredible that one woman reaching out for help started this journey. Some things are just meant to be. Happy Thanksgiving, on my gratitude list is this channel, you are helping others understand the complexities of FLDS and providing assistance to those wanting a new life.
Loved the seasonal background ✨
I appreciate Sam always taking a moment to highlight the compassionate side of the community he grew up in- like the mention of the prayers for the post office workers regardless of their uniforms not aligning with the teachings.
Excellent cloab💜💜👏🏻👏🏻
What an unexpected treat seeing you guys on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.🤗 I look forward to the regular Friday uplads, and it's always awesome whenever you have guests on with you. I've also watched the Profiling Evil channel with Mike and I loved his profile of the FLDS. I knew it was but a matter of time for you guys to hook up eventually. Great Show guys, can't wait for part 2.
I love these type of interviews and additional information on Polygamy ❤❤
I’m an early follower of both P.E and GUIP, it is refreshing when your favorite YT moderators come together to discuss mutually known topics. I appreciate the content. I also believe speaking the truth about your experiences is passing it forward to those struggling with their religion.
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great interwiew. loved it. Sending much love and happy season greetings to you and the family. have blessed season ;)
Absolutely excellent video! You guys are amazing. Loved this collab, cant wait for more! You have a new subscriber Mike!
Thanks Michelle Z. Love Sam and Melissa.
Love the content. Watching from Australia. Definitely going to see if I can find the books here.
Mike King is the best!
I left the Roman Catholic church before the child molestation became public knowledge. But for my mother I don't think she ever came to terms with it. I think priests should marry, but she was aghast at the idea. But for the children involved it spiritually twists them. Personally I turned to the New Testament because this is Christianity. It is what Christ taught and I think he is a very good role model.
It’s easier to fool people than convince people they’ve been fooled
Mark Twain
People are so pressured to stay in the church and tithe. No organization does this except that it's profitable for those at the top . At the same time, so many positions done by volunteers. Does it occur to anyone that purchases of "sacred" items, such as rare books or plates are a form of money laundering? Where does that money go?
Very good, thank you. The question about how do you make a 14 year old girl aware that "marrying" at that age is against Utah law was interesting. I suppose if you are taught al your life that the law of the state is wrong (eg even here in the UK a Catholic girl might be told abortion is a moral wrong so would not believe it was okay despite the law saying so) is an illustration of that issue. At what age particular countries set the age of consent (16 in the UK with age for marriage in England rising to 18 in 2023, but not the age for couples to have relations) also makes it hard for people to know what is the moral wrong. In the Little House on the Prairie books writing about the 1800s I always remember a bit in the Shores of Silver Lake being surprised at hose the marriage of a 13 year old was regarded then - Laura and her cousin thought it was too young to have the responsibility of a child to look after, but no one wrote that it was an affront or moral wrong. If Warren J has just followed the law and married girls a bit older he could have avoided most of this trouble. It is not as if his religious faith says girls have to marry at 14 by any means at all.
I might read his books; they are on Kindle for a good price. This video is early, new schedule? Choir is brining boxed Thanksgiving dinners today at 3 pm. Happy Holidays. I hope you get good black Friday deals.
I love your videos for their transparency and respectful approach to the FLDS. I also know you must be so worried about family members who still are inside the FLDS. Please, please tell me you or someone who has access to these evil rants from Warren Jeffs has altered law enforcement to the potential danger of them.
You are a lovely couple - curious if you ever read "Mama, Mormonism, and Me. It was a very interesting book. Happy Thanksgiving -
I just resubscribed for the third time! No idea how it keeps unsubscribing, but this is one of my favorite channels, and I know I wouldn’t do it. Y’all check your subscriptions and be sure you’re subscribed!
Makes my heart go out to all the flds as its so hard for them to understand that there being abused and even when there old there still being abused as there freedom has been taken away and sadly some never had freedom in there life's.
There is a youtube family I think called David and april orgill there both lds now however April mother use to be flds but she left I think just before warren Jeff's became prophet might be something you guys could look into
This made Sam uncomfortable for sure
Fantastic. I'd be really interested in what happened to Willie Jessop as I know he showed Oprah Winfrey around the YFZ ranch on an episode many year's ago. Then spoke to Oprah a couple of year's later denouncing any knowledge of activities at the ranch.??
That would be interesting
Keep up the fabulous content 🇬🇧
He got kicked out at some point after the Oprah special. The teacher in the video, Tammy Jessop (one of Merril’s wives) got kicked out too.
@@piratesswoop725 thanks really fascinated by these cults. Living in the 🇬🇧 and being English and not being brought up remotely religious. It's just so interesting, and so far removed from anything I've ever seen or known.
@@piratesswoop725 so he didn't voluntarily leave the Flds then??
@@lucybarker1330 No, Warren arbitrarily took away his priesthood, so Willie basically decided that he was done defending him if that’s what was done to him after all the defending he did of Warren. He said the FBI also sent him a copy of the Merrianne Jessop tape and another tape where Warren admitted to SA-ing his own sisters and also denying being the prophet.
As an ex-Mormon, I know first hand that it's not only the FLDS cult that sexually abuse children. SA happens in the LDS cult as well. In fact, SA occurs in all religions. IMO all religions are cults. Happy to be an ex-Mormon atheist. I love Sam and Melissa.
Is Willy Jessop still an active member in the FLDS? I know he owns Warren Jeff's home and turned it into a hotel. But I am also aware that his wives and children run the hotel. I was just cirous is he was a non member who has still chosen to be loyal to his wives.
No. He is considered an apostate. But he's still a crook.
What group is the FLDS group near Stockton, MO? Are they Polygamist’s?
Yes, that group practices plural marriage. They are independent of the FLDS. Some of them may have been part of the FLDS at some point in their family history, but that's never been clear to me.
The Stockton/Humansville group has its roots in the Apostolic United Brethren (AUB) also known as the Allred Group, but it remains an independent sect since the early 1980s.
In a sense, the Missouri sect as a whole does share common roots with the Short Creek polygamists.
Long story short - the AUB split away from the base of the Short Creek polygamists in the mid-1950s after the death of Joseph White Musser.
At issue in the split was, for lack of a better term, a succession dispute. After Musser's death, the Short Creek group followed Leroy Johnson as their prophet. The AUB leader was Rulon C. Allred. (Allred was murdered in 1977 on the order of Ervil LeBaron. That's a whole 'nother story about fundamentalist LDS families.)
Was Willy Jessop ever charged with anything?
What are thee names of the pedophiles arrested on that raid ?
I can't donate, I don't donate or give UA-cam any money, or through them.
Their donation cause is through Donor Box, not UA-cam. Sam and Melissa are just using their UA-cam channel to share the link. Same idea as someone sharing a GoFundMe link on, say Facebook.
Hope that helps you!
You guys are much nicer than I am. I would think if you found out you were wrong and using GOD to justify all your past transgressions then spend the rest of your life trying to make amends. That would be closer to GOD than just continuing in the evil you thought was right. So, all those 85- and 65-year-olds should be donating and working big time for this organization to help these young people.
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The problem is Mike is obviously devout main stream LDS. What he is failing to tell the viewers is at this same time frame when the state allocated all this money to investigate ritual sex abuse in Utah the daughter and son in law of Russell M Nelson the current prophet in 2023 was implicated in ritual sex abuse. This case was kicked out because the statutes of limitations were exceeded. The former governor of Utahs brother David Levitt is also under investigation for Ritual Sexual Abuse. I hope Mike would be able as a devote Mormon to be able to put victims first in these cases but like FLDS police officers did at the time don’t hold your breath. Mike is beholden to another cult. Perhaps a good cult like he refers to in this video.