@@crazycaseyscustoms How much would you charge to ship me your dimple die, give me a day to use it, and then I ship it back? 🙏 I would pay a deposit, so you knew I would return it to you. I wish I had a metal lathe to make my own, but I do not have room for it. Having those drain plugs higher than the table really sucks, LOVE that dimple step in yours. Thanks for your consideration, Have a great day!
I’ll sell it to you cheap, @@Hangs4Fun, and then you could probably pass it along to someone else on the Langmuir forum for what you paid. I don’t know what’s fair. $40? You can email me through my website (crazycaseyscustoms.com).
@@crazycaseyscustoms Heck yeah. I could both work with you and enjoy a craft beer with you! Can I ask where you ended up moving to? I'm originally born & raised in Cali, but been out in OKC for 6+ years. Thinking about moving back west a little. Northern Arizona & Nevada are high on my list. I like my freedom not only in the car culture but also I like firearms as well. Cali don't like cars or firearms anymore [since the Socialists moved in :)].
Oh, rad,@@GiletheCarGuy! We’re up in Northern Nevada, about 50 minutes Southeast of Reno. It’s a small town called Dayton, and it’s kind of the best of all worlds when it comes to Northern Nevada living. And I can shoot right out past the end of my yard on public land. If you find yourself looking out here, come use us as a home base, or if you just want to come check it out, you’re always welcome! Definitely some fun places to have a pint, too. 😊👍🏼👍🏼🍻
@@crazycaseyscustoms Oh nice. I'm familiar with the Reno/Sparks area and of course Tahoe. On my next trip to my parents in NorCal I'll make it through Dayton. I haven't been across US 50 in Nevada yet. I think in February I'll be going up there.
Let me know,@@GiletheCarGuy. They call 50 the loneliest highway in the West. 😊 But there are some cool towns, like Dayton, with a lot of history. We’re also right next to Virginia City.
I cant say what kind of process that was to make everything work, but after watching this video, it feels like it wasnt a real pain in the butt after all. Well, i am sure that it will be a huge help with your projects.I am looking forward to see how that works when you are building brackets etc. And looks like you have a new dog too!
It’s still a work in progress. Today I ruined a big chunk of 3/8 plate because my settings weren’t quite right. And it seems the answer is that more trial and error are needed. I’ll get there eventually, I am sure. Anyway, yes, we did get a new dog. We actually got Peety a couple years before we lost our other dog. He was a Christmas gift for my wife the year before my daughter was born. And he makes a half decent sled dog; who knew!? 😂 Hope you are well my friend. Thanks for the kind words. Until next time. 😊
@@crazycaseyscustoms Well life is generally a trial and error. I know that new stuff can take time to figure it out, but i am sure you'll know the tricks after some practise pieces. And yes, the dog looks like a promising sled dog!
Yes, it’s got a pretty good bow in it, @@MatthewsInnovations. And I was a little frustrated that Langmuir wouldn’t replace it, but it does not affect the cut, as the bearings on the carriages don’t allow any deflection, and the lead nuts have some axial give in them. Of all the issues I had getting this machine up and running, this bent lead screw has been the least of my concern.
I might of looked on the wrong Friday as I did not see any deals. I really want a table and this one seems perfect in size, price is about $3511 if I include THC and Limit Switches. I've seen several of your videos and I just cant press the BUY IT NOW button.
Honestly, at this point, I’m starting to feel like I can’t recommend this table. I’ve had nothing but trouble, and only very minimal success. It seems like the people who have success are either extremely lucky, or they go to great lengths to figure out the idiosyncrasies of the platform. I’ve been told I’m wrong about this, and that CNC platforms are all plagued by these issues, even at 10x the investment, and that the Langmuir machine is just a great value for the money, no matter how you slice it, but I’m about $5,000 in at this point, and I’ve cut a couple of cool things out, but I’ve also currently got a broken machine, ruined $100’s of dollars in material and spent days upon days just trying to make it work, and I’m 0 for 3 on recent attempts to get Langmuir to respond to my requests for service. I’ll come back to this comment if I get some resolution to the issues I’m having, but at this point, I’d feel guilty if someone bought a Langmuir Systems Table because my channel made it seem like more than it is. I’m even sitting on my next video, because I don’t want to showcase what this table CAN do, because of all that’s gone wrong in between the successful cuts, that I can’t really show. Anyway, thank you for watching my videos. That means a lot to me.
@@crazycaseyscustoms I have watched about 8 hours of Langmuir videos this past month from unboxing to cutting. I did see a few videos about wrong parts, bent parts and non issues as well. I really hope you can figure things out on your machine as you can build lots of cool stuff. Talking about materials I am 100% out of sheet metal and scrap. If I get a table I want to do 1/8" thick signs to weld on ranch entrances here in South Texas. I am more of a Hobby person so if I get a table I hope I can generate some money back. Once again good luck with your machine.
Thank you, @@cutweldngrind. My hesitation to recommend them comes from the fact that, if I had to guess, I’d put the number of people who have issues at probably close to half, and lately I’ve been feeling like their customer service has been slow to help. You hear great things about that part, but my experience so far has been that it’s mediocre at best. I actually got a call from them today, and while it was largely unhelpful, at least I’m moving in the right direction, again. It still remains to be seen if they’ll warranty out the parts I need to get my table back up and running, but it sounds like they’re going to. There’s a knowledgeable online community that’s pretty helpful if you have the right attitude, but you’re largely on your own, and CNC Plasma isn’t “easy”. I guess if you go into it with that understanding, it’s probably still a pretty good value. Oh, but if I had to do it over again, I’d go right for the Hypertherm. It adds about $2,000 to the price tag, over a cheaper Plasma, but the people who buy the Hypertherm aren’t the ones having problems. Just my $0.02. Good luck in whatever you decide, and feel free to bug me if you get stuck. I’m quickly learning a lot about this stuff.
@@crazycaseyscustoms Thanks for all the information. I have a Hypertherm Powermax 45 in the shed as well but stopped using it as it cost me a mini fortune. I also have a Primeweld Cut60 and a Yeswelder that I like to use out in the elements or dusty environments. The Hypertherm seems to get better life on consumables for sure put replacement torches are pricey as well. I tried doing comparisons on the Crossfire with XL kit to the Pro again but cant decide which to get and if I SHOULD BUY LOL. Anyways I subscribed to you so will see what the next video shows. I have my own channel as well but I been on and off youtube due to work, sick and time change that limits my afternoons. I will make sure to bug you if I do pull through with a purchase.
Are you saying you don’t use the Hypertherm because it’s an expensive unit and you don’t want to damage it or wear it out, @@cutweldngrind? I’m pretty sure that’s the unit Langmuir recommends on their machines as the premium option, and if you go with Hypertherm’s machine torch, you’ve basically got the best possible setup. My issues have basically been three-fold. One, I had a huge learning curve, because of no prior experience, and the fact that Langmuir doesn’t really give you a full set of instructions for how to actually run a CNC plasma (not necessarily their fault). Two, I had a defective Primeweld Cut60 that had me chasing my tail a bit on early cuts, and not being able to “learn” from my adjustments because the machine wasn’t doing what it’s supposed to. And three, apparently, EMI is causing issues that at first I wasn’t even really aware of, further throwing things off and creating more variables than I could even keep up with. So, with all of that said, Hypertherm’s cut charts include nominal cut voltage settings that can be set into the machine, and they take virtually all of the guesswork out of the setup part of the learning curve (which is really the biggest hurdle). And, Hypertherm’s are supposedly better shielded than your average “cheap” plasma, and *may* help you avoid a lot of the EMI issues that plague many CNC plasma users. To update you on my beef with Langmuir; they stepped up and took care of me, and I’ve actually been pretty impressed with their customer service efforts, of late. The failure to return my emails previously may have just been a fluke, or a technology failure. I feel like I can confidently endorse their product again, AND, I feel like if you set your machine up with the Hypertherm plasma, you’ll avoid a lot of the issues that have made my experience so trying.
Would you say that the plasma cutter and compressor can affect your cuts, I have inconsistent cuts with this same machine, what equipment are you using?
Yes, I would say so. You should get on the Langmuir forum, because there is a TON of great information over there. I am currently using a 60 gallon Devilbiss compressor with a four stage air dryer, and an Everlast 62i plasma. Cut settings on your plasma are critical, and if you buy anything but a Hypertherm, you’re going to have to do a fair amount of work to get those all dialed in for each material type/thickness you cut. Hope that’s helpful.
Casey, who did you take the 30day design course with? What software is it based off of? I am in the beginning stages of getting myself into all of this and would like to start learning the CAD software. Although, I have used Solidworks for about a year back in 2015-2016.
Product Design Online “Learn Fusion 360 in 30 Days” course. They’re all similar enough that you should take to Fusion easily if you’re familiar with Solid Works, and the 30 day course is an excellent resource. Good luck!
Did the table come with the wire thing that you had to solder to the primeweld to get it to work with the control box? Looking at getting one of these tables, but If I can find a better cutter for a lower price will go with that. just don't want to have to spend a lot of time with a bunch of adapters etc. to get it to work.
The Prime Weld came with that plug, but I do believe that it was at least partially responsible for my issues with the Langmuir table. It’s recommended by the forum to wire the Prime Weld machine to internal plasma voltage, bypassing the CNC port entirely…or depending on who you talk to, not using the Prime Weld machine at all. The Everlast plasma’s are also incompatible with the Langmuir CNC port. The only plasma’s that I am aware of that have plug and play harnesses available are the Razor Weld and the Hypertherm.
I ran the Primeweld Cut-60 for a little bit, but I had problems with two units in a row. I have the Everlast Powerplasma 62i now, and honestly feel it’s a bit nicer machine than the Primeweld.
I’m trying to develop my own. Langmuir says not to run over 45 Amps on their table without extra insulation, so I’m trying to (like Hypertherm) build a 45A cut chart, only varying the speed. The added benefit being that you can stock only one tip size, too. 😊
Wrong Parts Again! WOW. That sucks! Glad they fixed it only, 10 days latter. WoW they left you hanging on a warped part. A not so cheep hobby table is costly for your time. Awesome drain plug.
Thanks man! Yeah, I wasn’t too impressed at this stage, and honestly it got a whole lot worse before it get better; I still have the longest ever thread on their forum trying to trouble shoot my machine before they finally stepped up, but now it’s flawless…
Casey What did you buy for you plasma cutting torch Manufacturer and Model? Would you want to change that and if so what would you move to. I love your red rubber booty Idea.
Steven, I’ve had a Primeweld Cut 60, and now an Everlast Powerplasma 62i. The Primeweld has the potential to be a good machine, but I think they have some quality control issues. The Everlast cuts really nice. I’d really like to try a Hypertherm, and might switch to one of those eventually, but they’re really pricey. Be careful of the silicone boot; they can catch fire. I actually fold it up, and it just acts as a shield (not a cone). I also have a 3D printed shield that covers the Z-axis parts. One of these days I’ll make another video. Sorry I’ve been lagging on the channel. Feel free to ask any questions you might have. Cheers, Casey
Thanks for your honest information on the Cross Fire Pro
You’re welcome.
@@crazycaseyscustoms How much would you charge to ship me your dimple die, give me a day to use it, and then I ship it back? 🙏 I would pay a deposit, so you knew I would return it to you. I wish I had a metal lathe to make my own, but I do not have room for it. Having those drain plugs higher than the table really sucks, LOVE that dimple step in yours. Thanks for your consideration, Have a great day!
I’ll sell it to you cheap, @@Hangs4Fun, and then you could probably pass it along to someone else on the Langmuir forum for what you paid. I don’t know what’s fair. $40? You can email me through my website (crazycaseyscustoms.com).
Nice shop! 👍
Thanks John! I’m really happy with the way it came together.
That'll be a nice addition to the shop & your skill set.
Plus now you could actually prototype & manufacture on a small scale.
That’s exactly what I’m hoping to do, Gile. If you have any ideas, get a hold of me. Happy to work with you on any project.
@@crazycaseyscustoms Heck yeah. I could both work with you and enjoy a craft beer with you!
Can I ask where you ended up moving to? I'm originally born & raised in Cali, but been out in OKC for 6+ years. Thinking about moving back west a little. Northern Arizona & Nevada are high on my list. I like my freedom not only in the car culture but also I like firearms as well. Cali don't like cars or firearms anymore [since the Socialists moved in :)].
Oh, rad,@@GiletheCarGuy! We’re up in Northern Nevada, about 50 minutes Southeast of Reno. It’s a small town called Dayton, and it’s kind of the best of all worlds when it comes to Northern Nevada living. And I can shoot right out past the end of my yard on public land. If you find yourself looking out here, come use us as a home base, or if you just want to come check it out, you’re always welcome! Definitely some fun places to have a pint, too. 😊👍🏼👍🏼🍻
@@crazycaseyscustoms Oh nice. I'm familiar with the Reno/Sparks area and of course Tahoe. On my next trip to my parents in NorCal I'll make it through Dayton. I haven't been across US 50 in Nevada yet. I think in February I'll be going up there.
Let me know,@@GiletheCarGuy. They call 50 the loneliest highway in the West. 😊 But there are some cool towns, like Dayton, with a lot of history. We’re also right next to Virginia City.
Awesome brother.....looking forward to seeing this complement your fine work!
Thanks Larry! Me too man. The learning curve is steep, but I’m convinced I will conquer it. 😊
I'd like to see a follow-up video on cut quality once you learn the system and the software to its potential.
Forthcoming! I’m hoping to drop one on this coming Tuesday.
I cant say what kind of process that was to make everything work, but after watching this video, it feels like it wasnt a real pain in the butt after all.
Well, i am sure that it will be a huge help with your projects.I am looking forward to see how that works when you are building brackets etc. And looks like you have a new dog too!
It’s still a work in progress. Today I ruined a big chunk of 3/8 plate because my settings weren’t quite right. And it seems the answer is that more trial and error are needed. I’ll get there eventually, I am sure. Anyway, yes, we did get a new dog. We actually got Peety a couple years before we lost our other dog. He was a Christmas gift for my wife the year before my daughter was born. And he makes a half decent sled dog; who knew!? 😂 Hope you are well my friend. Thanks for the kind words. Until next time. 😊
@@crazycaseyscustoms Well life is generally a trial and error. I know that new stuff can take time to figure it out, but i am sure you'll know the tricks after some practise pieces. And yes, the dog looks like a promising sled dog!
😂😂😂🛷🐕 @@1fknhpycmpr355
I got sent two LH Lower rail tubes instead of one LH and one RH, sucks but sometime it happens..
Yes, indeed, it does.
Was the leadscrew bent?... Looks like it wobbles a bit... Any issues with the end-of-cut process matching up with the starting cut?
Yes, it’s got a pretty good bow in it, @@MatthewsInnovations. And I was a little frustrated that Langmuir wouldn’t replace it, but it does not affect the cut, as the bearings on the carriages don’t allow any deflection, and the lead nuts have some axial give in them. Of all the issues I had getting this machine up and running, this bent lead screw has been the least of my concern.
I might of looked on the wrong Friday as I did not see any deals. I really want a table and this one seems perfect in size, price is about $3511 if I include THC and Limit Switches. I've seen several of your videos and I just cant press the BUY IT NOW button.
Honestly, at this point, I’m starting to feel like I can’t recommend this table. I’ve had nothing but trouble, and only very minimal success. It seems like the people who have success are either extremely lucky, or they go to great lengths to figure out the idiosyncrasies of the platform. I’ve been told I’m wrong about this, and that CNC platforms are all plagued by these issues, even at 10x the investment, and that the Langmuir machine is just a great value for the money, no matter how you slice it, but I’m about $5,000 in at this point, and I’ve cut a couple of cool things out, but I’ve also currently got a broken machine, ruined $100’s of dollars in material and spent days upon days just trying to make it work, and I’m 0 for 3 on recent attempts to get Langmuir to respond to my requests for service.
I’ll come back to this comment if I get some resolution to the issues I’m having, but at this point, I’d feel guilty if someone bought a Langmuir Systems Table because my channel made it seem like more than it is. I’m even sitting on my next video, because I don’t want to showcase what this table CAN do, because of all that’s gone wrong in between the successful cuts, that I can’t really show.
Anyway, thank you for watching my videos. That means a lot to me.
@@crazycaseyscustoms I have watched about 8 hours of Langmuir videos this past month from unboxing to cutting. I did see a few videos about wrong parts, bent parts and non issues as well. I really hope you can figure things out on your machine as you can build lots of cool stuff. Talking about materials I am 100% out of sheet metal and scrap. If I get a table I want to do 1/8" thick signs to weld on ranch entrances here in South Texas. I am more of a Hobby person so if I get a table I hope I can generate some money back. Once again good luck with your machine.
Thank you, @@cutweldngrind. My hesitation to recommend them comes from the fact that, if I had to guess, I’d put the number of people who have issues at probably close to half, and lately I’ve been feeling like their customer service has been slow to help. You hear great things about that part, but my experience so far has been that it’s mediocre at best. I actually got a call from them today, and while it was largely unhelpful, at least I’m moving in the right direction, again. It still remains to be seen if they’ll warranty out the parts I need to get my table back up and running, but it sounds like they’re going to. There’s a knowledgeable online community that’s pretty helpful if you have the right attitude, but you’re largely on your own, and CNC Plasma isn’t “easy”. I guess if you go into it with that understanding, it’s probably still a pretty good value. Oh, but if I had to do it over again, I’d go right for the Hypertherm. It adds about $2,000 to the price tag, over a cheaper Plasma, but the people who buy the Hypertherm aren’t the ones having problems. Just my $0.02. Good luck in whatever you decide, and feel free to bug me if you get stuck. I’m quickly learning a lot about this stuff.
@@crazycaseyscustoms Thanks for all the information. I have a Hypertherm Powermax 45 in the shed as well but stopped using it as it cost me a mini fortune. I also have a Primeweld Cut60 and a Yeswelder that I like to use out in the elements or dusty environments. The Hypertherm seems to get better life on consumables for sure put replacement torches are pricey as well. I tried doing comparisons on the Crossfire with XL kit to the Pro again but cant decide which to get and if I SHOULD BUY LOL.
Anyways I subscribed to you so will see what the next video shows. I have my own channel as well but I been on and off youtube due to work, sick and time change that limits my afternoons.
I will make sure to bug you if I do pull through with a purchase.
Are you saying you don’t use the Hypertherm because it’s an expensive unit and you don’t want to damage it or wear it out, @@cutweldngrind?
I’m pretty sure that’s the unit Langmuir recommends on their machines as the premium option, and if you go with Hypertherm’s machine torch, you’ve basically got the best possible setup.
My issues have basically been three-fold. One, I had a huge learning curve, because of no prior experience, and the fact that Langmuir doesn’t really give you a full set of instructions for how to actually run a CNC plasma (not necessarily their fault). Two, I had a defective Primeweld Cut60 that had me chasing my tail a bit on early cuts, and not being able to “learn” from my adjustments because the machine wasn’t doing what it’s supposed to. And three, apparently, EMI is causing issues that at first I wasn’t even really aware of, further throwing things off and creating more variables than I could even keep up with.
So, with all of that said, Hypertherm’s cut charts include nominal cut voltage settings that can be set into the machine, and they take virtually all of the guesswork out of the setup part of the learning curve (which is really the biggest hurdle). And, Hypertherm’s are supposedly better shielded than your average “cheap” plasma, and *may* help you avoid a lot of the EMI issues that plague many CNC plasma users.
To update you on my beef with Langmuir; they stepped up and took care of me, and I’ve actually been pretty impressed with their customer service efforts, of late. The failure to return my emails previously may have just been a fluke, or a technology failure. I feel like I can confidently endorse their product again, AND, I feel like if you set your machine up with the Hypertherm plasma, you’ll avoid a lot of the issues that have made my experience so trying.
Would you say that the plasma cutter and compressor can affect your cuts, I have inconsistent cuts with this same machine, what equipment are you using?
Yes, I would say so. You should get on the Langmuir forum, because there is a TON of great information over there. I am currently using a 60 gallon Devilbiss compressor with a four stage air dryer, and an Everlast 62i plasma. Cut settings on your plasma are critical, and if you buy anything but a Hypertherm, you’re going to have to do a fair amount of work to get those all dialed in for each material type/thickness you cut. Hope that’s helpful.
Casey, who did you take the 30day design course with? What software is it based off of? I am in the beginning stages of getting myself into all of this and would like to start learning the CAD software. Although, I have used Solidworks for about a year back in 2015-2016.
Product Design Online “Learn Fusion 360 in 30 Days” course. They’re all similar enough that you should take to Fusion easily if you’re familiar with Solid Works, and the 30 day course is an excellent resource. Good luck!
Did the table come with the wire thing that you had to solder to the primeweld to get it to work with the control box? Looking at getting one of these tables, but If I can find a better cutter for a lower price will go with that. just don't want to have to spend a lot of time with a bunch of adapters etc. to get it to work.
The Prime Weld came with that plug, but I do believe that it was at least partially responsible for my issues with the Langmuir table. It’s recommended by the forum to wire the Prime Weld machine to internal plasma voltage, bypassing the CNC port entirely…or depending on who you talk to, not using the Prime Weld machine at all. The Everlast plasma’s are also incompatible with the Langmuir CNC port. The only plasma’s that I am aware of that have plug and play harnesses available are the Razor Weld and the Hypertherm.
Well, I went ahead and dropped an order for the crossfire Pro and the Prime Weld Cut 60. Will get it figured out I'm sure
@@crazycaseyscustoms
Get on the forum if you aren’t already, @@michaelwenmanK7USN. It’s a great resource!
Just was there and found a pdf file that someone made showing what wires go to what pins. already printed out :)
@@crazycaseyscustoms
I see that primeweld (Cut-60)?
I ran the Primeweld Cut-60 for a little bit, but I had problems with two units in a row. I have the Everlast Powerplasma 62i now, and honestly feel it’s a bit nicer machine than the Primeweld.
what cut chart are you using?
I’m trying to develop my own. Langmuir says not to run over 45 Amps on their table without extra insulation, so I’m trying to (like Hypertherm) build a 45A cut chart, only varying the speed. The added benefit being that you can stock only one tip size, too. 😊
Wrong Parts Again! WOW. That sucks! Glad they fixed it only, 10 days latter. WoW they left you hanging on a warped part. A not so cheep hobby table is costly for your time.
Awesome drain plug.
Thanks man! Yeah, I wasn’t too impressed at this stage, and honestly it got a whole lot worse before it get better; I still have the longest ever thread on their forum trying to trouble shoot my machine before they finally stepped up, but now it’s flawless…
Casey What did you buy for you plasma cutting torch Manufacturer and Model? Would you want to change that and if so what would you move to. I love your red rubber booty Idea.
Steven, I’ve had a Primeweld Cut 60, and now an Everlast Powerplasma 62i. The Primeweld has the potential to be a good machine, but I think they have some quality control issues. The Everlast cuts really nice. I’d really like to try a Hypertherm, and might switch to one of those eventually, but they’re really pricey. Be careful of the silicone boot; they can catch fire. I actually fold it up, and it just acts as a shield (not a cone). I also have a 3D printed shield that covers the Z-axis parts. One of these days I’ll make another video. Sorry I’ve been lagging on the channel. Feel free to ask any questions you might have.
Cheers,
Casey
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Thank you Freddie!
I just got one. Nice machine support sucks!! They want even sell spare parts if needed unless your table is broken.
I think there has to be some growing pains after their acquisition.