Are These Sponsors Scammers?

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  • Опубліковано 11 лют 2024
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  • @panikk2
    @panikk2 5 місяців тому +137

    "would be a shame if Ludwig tweeted about this mess"

  • @Zega_
    @Zega_ 5 місяців тому +83

    I remember melee twitter was posting fastest times of getting through that raid shadow legends tutorial

  • @brandonl4511
    @brandonl4511 5 місяців тому +190

    EVE Online is for sure the hardest game to stream. Nearly nothing makes sense if you've never played it before, even though I played for a year it's still difficult to watch and understand what people are doing on a stream.

    • @jordanyates3349
      @jordanyates3349 5 місяців тому +31

      not to mention watching someone else play spreadsheet simulator is not nearly as fun as playing spreadsheet sim yourself

    • @targetbuddy5
      @targetbuddy5 5 місяців тому +20

      EVE is one of those things that's fascinating to learn about, but HORRIBLE to watch. Kinda like baseball

    • @INEEDCAFFEIN3
      @INEEDCAFFEIN3 5 місяців тому +2

      Also insane stream snipers

    • @shadowseek27
      @shadowseek27 5 місяців тому

      ​@@targetbuddy5absolutely right, but for me there is some weird appeal to watching baseball that no other sport fulfills, maybe I should get into eve lmao

    • @greenoftreeblackofblue6625
      @greenoftreeblackofblue6625 5 місяців тому +1

      It's just ships. Fucking trust me I watched the 4 hour Eve Online Down the rabbit hole video. It's just ships

  • @velbutvel
    @velbutvel 5 місяців тому +247

    the melee community is the most dedicated fanbase istg. yall are fkn crazy

    • @Firnienarya
      @Firnienarya 5 місяців тому +15

      They really should have researched the stuff they were sponsoring lmao

    • @ryan_alexander
      @ryan_alexander 5 місяців тому +24

      The swifties of gaming

    • @DNeonLamp
      @DNeonLamp 5 місяців тому +5

      Devs keep trying to court them to play a new melee like game designed just for them and they keep saying "naaah, but melee tho 👀"
      Wild levels of obsession with one game

    • @joemarais7683
      @joemarais7683 5 місяців тому +3

      Ofc they’re crazy, they’re propping up a scene rampant with child predators that even the game creators want dead because wavedashing was cool two decades ago. It’s wild.

    • @adagiohno
      @adagiohno 5 місяців тому +12

      @@joemarais7683what are you waffling about

  • @charlesyoung3444
    @charlesyoung3444 5 місяців тому +26

    1:15 speaking of funny sponsored streams Jericho once had a burger king sponsor and kept saying McDonald's terms on accident, he said "Big Mac" like 3 times😂

  • @johnkimhyuntae
    @johnkimhyuntae 5 місяців тому +54

    i think the biggest problem with sponserships in esports is that a large proportion of viewers are either young or broke, hence, there’s just not enough people there to buy the products. Also, it doesn’t help that the ad cost in relation to viewership is too high and relative to actual sports and the conversion rate just doesn’t translate over. idek what i’m talking ab but here’s my 2 cents 🤷‍♂️

  • @williejones6446
    @williejones6446 5 місяців тому +17

    Yo he just explained to us cold business. "Sorry brah your SOL"

  • @NeonRedChannel
    @NeonRedChannel 5 місяців тому +88

    bro fix your headphones cable

    • @Nobody-iz1qd
      @Nobody-iz1qd 5 місяців тому +13

      For real, I couldn't keep my eyes off of it.

    • @TheMe9595
      @TheMe9595 5 місяців тому +10

      It gets worse every stream lol

  • @spiderzz1
    @spiderzz1 5 місяців тому +36

    sorry to say im glad mango didnt get paid, ive been a hardcore runescape fan and the game is managed so poorly, its a rabbit hole in and of itself to look into the pit of money the owners have shoveled funds into instead of improving infrastructure or supporting the community (the lifeblood of this game and the only real reason it still lives)

    • @fizwiz81
      @fizwiz81 5 місяців тому +1

      As an OSRS player I feel bad for you guys it’s so sad seeing the state of RS3 with MTX and stuff. I’m worried about the future of both games rn since the whole jagex sale thing

  • @Eloquence00
    @Eloquence00 5 місяців тому +9

    Esports monetization is a tough nutt to crack. Orgs don't produce much content and their streamers/players do but build their own brands way more than their orgs brand. Players can't really exist without orgs in the current big esports though, so it's a really tough situation. The orgs have lost the money to sign and keep great players, who can earn more money streaming than playing, and new players in the space are making less money than their less skilled peers so they have no loyalty to their orgs and chase whatever paycheck they can get.
    Meanwhile, as you said about the Nvidia and GenG meeting, getting paying sponsors as a team isn't easy. Since people don't have regional loyalty and are much more interested in their favorite players than their favorite teams, it's difficult to find sponsorship value as a team, almost regardless of how good you are. T1 might be the only org capable of getting big sponsorship deals in League and that's because Faker is there and he has a name that is recognizable outside of esports. If every team needs a Faker to become close to profitable then it's simply impossible.

  • @primal9238
    @primal9238 5 місяців тому +9

    So much advertising money is just thrown away due to poor decision making.

  • @coolman000099
    @coolman000099 5 місяців тому +1

    Can you start putting the link from the vod these come from

  • @DNeonLamp
    @DNeonLamp 5 місяців тому +4

    LEC (LoL Europe league) has some heavy dedicated regional fanbases now with Karmine Corp and KOI, plus I'd say that Fnatic and G2 have some dedicated fans who don't swap allegiances with players.
    I think NA in particular has a massive problem with fans following players and not teams, which comes down to NA fans wanting to watch a streamer who's also a pro instead of watching pros and following their streams.

    • @PointlessRantz
      @PointlessRantz 5 місяців тому

      I think C9 and 100 Thieves have some really dedicated fanbases across multiple esports. Cloud 9 I definitely think is comparable no matter what esport they have a lot of fans

  • @r8gg
    @r8gg 4 місяці тому

    3:04 LMAOOOOO I REMEMBER THIS I DID THIS, LUD DID THE SAME FOR THAT CAPITAL ONE BROWSER EXTENSION

  • @SCORPAIN88isme
    @SCORPAIN88isme 5 місяців тому +4

    Also most top NA teams were getting giant deals with FTX lol

  • @r8gg
    @r8gg 4 місяці тому

    1:24 it was so funny to watch people play GIM for a few hours. it was SO terribly stupid.

  • @BarginsGalore
    @BarginsGalore 5 місяців тому +3

    an ad on a esports tournament that’s gets 60k viewers isn’t gonna be worth a significant more then a 60k viewers xqc stream maybe worth even less because of the parasocial aspect of a streamer. but the cost of tournament is so much higher then a desktop stream that it seems to me the only way esports can make financial sense is if the game studio is funding and it’s purpose is to drive game sales.
    edit: i finishes the video he says the same thing

  • @mesiroy1234
    @mesiroy1234 5 місяців тому +9

    This 2 am in my country
    And i like to watch before sleep

    • @Tetragramz
      @Tetragramz 5 місяців тому +3

      you should've slept sooner; you have a whole day to seize!

    • @privtprofile24
      @privtprofile24 5 місяців тому +3

      Same. Bedtime stories with the old man.

  • @nxcrobutcher
    @nxcrobutcher 5 місяців тому +1

    I'd say gta online is one of the most difficult games to stream since there's a pretty good chance a modder will join and crash your game or just ruin your experience, even in private sessions

  • @overdrivexelerate
    @overdrivexelerate 5 місяців тому

    I did not absorb any of the information for the sheer fact that the tangled earbuds were irking me the entire time

  • @ChriSaito
    @ChriSaito 5 місяців тому +1

    One of the few esports I wanted to follow was OW league. It was all the same characters on every team and it’s weird to see a team called the Huston Outlaws and have them all be from Korea and China. The OWL was a joke. Hope the new one works out. World Cup was amazing.

  • @purpl3m
    @purpl3m 5 місяців тому

    another fire clip big a

  • @ProAssassinII
    @ProAssassinII 5 місяців тому

    would've loved to see the slide he showed going back a full year, layoffs are especially bad this time but from what I've heard the amount of layoffs in the sector is usually the worst in january

  • @esoessify
    @esoessify 5 місяців тому +7

    Idle games are objectively the hardest to stream.

    • @hastyscorpion
      @hastyscorpion 5 місяців тому

      Yeah lethal company is super hard to stream….

    • @esoessify
      @esoessify 5 місяців тому +1

      @@hastyscorpion what does lethal company have to do with anything?

    • @tonyt5711
      @tonyt5711 5 місяців тому +2

      @@esoessify i think he assumed u said indie games

  • @brrboy6
    @brrboy6 5 місяців тому

    can get get a breakdown on the fall off of OW league? or does anyone have a good video on it already?

  • @wukishark
    @wukishark 5 місяців тому

    as a runescape and melee player. that whole mang0 thing was rough

  • @flamespire2235
    @flamespire2235 5 місяців тому

    Ivor- in France has that fan “warrior” status where they care about the team not the players

  • @crosshair4483
    @crosshair4483 5 місяців тому +1

    Big A where would you consider competitive tabletop games on the esports real sports spectrum? The Olympics considers chess to be a sport but unfortunately competitive chess gets like no respect

  • @user-uv2cp1qd1j
    @user-uv2cp1qd1j 5 місяців тому

    Football Manager is a really hard game to stream, so much of the game is reading menus and just thinking to yourself.

  • @shannaalabel
    @shannaalabel 5 місяців тому

    Eve online mentioned??

  • @laogon09
    @laogon09 5 місяців тому +1

    Tbh I did not care whatsoever to watch the superbowl live, my friend group didn't make an event for it or anything, but we hung out and watched worlds for like top 8. We might be the exception but I think the shift is slowly coming

    • @YellowTwerker
      @YellowTwerker 5 місяців тому

      Nah your just a loser that SpongeBob vtuber Super Bowl broadcast was pretty fire

  • @BrutelyAwesome
    @BrutelyAwesome 5 місяців тому

    Atrioc's headphones gives me anxiety

  • @billycross2716
    @billycross2716 2 місяці тому

    Love runescape shoutouts. 8k hours babyyyyyy yeaaahhhhh learnin this inferno yeaaahhh yayyyy gonna pop a couple cyanide and chilllllll babyyyyyy

  • @solusflare
    @solusflare 5 місяців тому +2

    I think Big A should still play disco elysium, even if its a difficult stream game. It's truly one of a kind and I think this community would have a lot of fun with it

  • @johnathanarcher6999
    @johnathanarcher6999 5 місяців тому

    Giving up UA-cam for lent. See you after Easter Big A

  • @LitCactus
    @LitCactus 5 місяців тому

    The Longing would be a pretty poor stream game lol

  • @ghosty-fr2sj
    @ghosty-fr2sj 5 місяців тому +1

    Pls untangle your ear string ❤

  • @femboyuwu
    @femboyuwu 5 місяців тому +1

    nah id win

  • @fizwiz81
    @fizwiz81 5 місяців тому

    RUNESCAPE MENTIONED!!

  • @Tnscla
    @Tnscla 5 місяців тому

    Im still pissed at Jagex for the sponsored streams lol.
    And i dont even play Runescape anymore.

  • @billbeuginton9742
    @billbeuginton9742 5 місяців тому +2

    OSRS=GOAT GAME

  • @guppy719
    @guppy719 5 місяців тому +2

    The NBA in my opinion has the same problem, it has a lot of player first fans and the league audience is perpetually young. Because young fans get attached to players and then don't watch the sport anymore after they retire. Its different from team first fans. The league peaked in popularity with Jordan but after he retired people stopped watching and never came back. The Lebron and Curry Fans of today are much less likely to stick around in a decade compared to lets say a Chiefs fan.

    • @Aka47xxx
      @Aka47xxx 5 місяців тому

      The idea of supporting a player and not a team is crazayyyy

  • @thedrunkenswede3364
    @thedrunkenswede3364 5 місяців тому

    Rust is the harderst game to stream.

  • @cacophony5642
    @cacophony5642 5 місяців тому +8

    Nah I'd win

  • @milos1967
    @milos1967 5 місяців тому

    These videos are making me sad

  • @WaifuEndMyLaifu
    @WaifuEndMyLaifu 5 місяців тому

    Go ahead and stream Dead By Daylight. You aren't considered good until you hit 3k hours

  • @weabowoshi
    @weabowoshi 5 місяців тому +1

    no built in woosh bad video

  • @alvemaster
    @alvemaster 5 місяців тому

    Luds stream with Raid Shadow Legends is smart as shit. You could literally say "I got you thousands of downloads but you couldn´t keep the players. You can´t hate us for selling your game well, you just have a shit game.

  • @captainsuckbutt3917
    @captainsuckbutt3917 5 місяців тому +1

    IMO theres so much scamming(FTX, established titles, enchroma, etc.)///pseudo-scamming(Raid, gacha, sports bets etc.) in the "gaming-influencer" space that audiences are inherently negative towards any sponsor