Manual Heel & Toe vs Auto Rev Match! FK8 Civic Type R
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2019
- A full version of the first comparison on the north half circuit at Honda Malaysia's Type-R Track Night! More videos on the full circuit next! Check #zthctr on Instagram for more Honda CTR posts!
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Does the guy on the left have any neck muscles 😂😂😂😂
Poor guy had to endure hours of taxi work and this was his final outing of the night 🤧
That heel and toe speed, i only manage to do it on the traffic light on 5pm monday..
Why 5pm on a Monday?
@@zerotohundred monday blues + traffic jam..
HAHAHAHAHA
this is so bodoh HAHAHAHA ♥
Non manual guys here be confused😂😂😂
"What's a engine brake?" 😂
facts 😭😭😭
Breathtaking and neck breaking
THAT LEG TWITCH at 2:26 hahaha...think it's easier to quit smoking than not use heel and toe in a manual
Never quit or you get cold chicken feet 🐔
@@zerotohundred Noted ;)
Haha EJ. Gotta jaga the GB and engine haha. Hope to see you at EE soon
Awesome video. I need to practice my shifting now
wild driving man, really nice.
I personally love the rev matching in my CTR. Minus losing the ability to engine brake,
Congratulations. Very good driver.
auto rev match is better for lap times you can focus more on precision braking and downshifting + computer rev match is always perfect :)
Heel & Toe is crazy fun
Fun af!
Hell and teo nice my brother
That felt weird to watch , because I'm so use to heel and toe when I do canyon runs in my 04 AP2. So watching the auto rev made me felt kind of quirky lol, but cool feature, I just don't think I my foot couldnt bleep the gas lol.
Heel and toe, pro style.
Nice
WoW!!! Nice Heel & Toe mate, you´ve got the talent ;) And amazing drive on the ring too, that racing line, braking point, turn in, etc. Good. You´ve really got a lot of skills :) Keep it up ;) And what are you saying on the FK8? Is it the best FWD in the World?? Better than Legendary DC2, or EK9 which had the great driving characteristics, like Lift off Oversteer and stuff like that you know :) Tell me your opinion :)
Thanks! The FK8 is definitely Honda's best handling Type-R, perhaps even the world. Also the most mature at the moment, which felt like its lost the hot hatch / type r madness. FD2R still remains as the best all mechanical type r. The FK8R has gone bionic
Good
Nice one Tom. Just curious whats the conversation meant the FD2R is not so forgiving if I may. Thanks
Thanks, basically trying to say it's easier to make mistakes, or feel the effects of over driving in the FD2R than in the more forgiving, more able FK8R
@@zerotohundred yea. Feel the effects of over driving. I'm not sure what's the limit of it but on public road I cant do that. Guess gotta see when will have chance to have a try at track. If your are going to EE then is a good time to ask for more tips from u. Haha. Seen ur video in fd2r. First is to upgrade my skill and drive the car more. Haha
@@shauntan2266 👍 still trying to make it for EE.
@@zerotohundred fingers crossed. Hope to see you man
may i know where do u mount the foot cam? great vid tho
Right under the steering area that's it👍👍
Fuhh.. See Tom Goh drive.. Teach me sensei.. 🤣🤣
Anytime soon 😀
Coming soon.. 🤣🤣
waah..ada auto rev match..good assist mode for non heel&toe user..
Yes exactly 👍
Can you include a G meter in your videos, it does not have to be the most accurate but it would be cool to see those smooth shifts in the G meter
Thanks for the suggestion, will definitely keep that in mind for future videos
2:26 Lmao
Weird moment?
Your foot isn’t used to the auto rev match yet😂😂
@@cyrusfutell me about it 😉
lol
That's the muscle memory
Sup bro
Im really confused right now..how did you change gear down without pressing the gas pedal on the second lap ? If i do that my car will stall really bad ?
Thanks
Good question, that's what this video is about, demonstrating Honda's Auto Rev Match feature in the Civic Type-R where it blips the gas for you as you downshift 👍
@@zerotohundred ohhhh i see...i was really confused about that..thanks for the clarification..
Idk the auto rev match feels weird even from the screen))
As in weird to see / weird to perform / weird in operation?
@@zerotohundred as in weird to see and perform. Idk why im concerned about it anyway, but in my head it works ok with AT cars and weird with three pedals=)
@@XenoWitcher it does feel weird to perform to be honest, it takes effort to keep the heel down in real life 👍
zerotohundred what's the difference? What did you do you still stepped on the pedals? 😰😰😰
Don't know if it just me, but I the pedal placement is so uncomfortable for heel and toe in this car. 8th gen was no problem. Not that it matters because of auto rev match but still
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Does the Type R have a lot of clutch travel? Or is it quite short?
Okay travel in CTR, Megane 4 RS is an example of long travel
Do you blip same time as you downshift or right after you shifted down ?
Yes, It is about the same time because a blip takes almost the same time as a shift
What is the disadvantge by not doing heel and toe?clutch faster to wear?
That and everything else connected to it
zerotohundred how about timing?much different ?
Adi Jo heel and toe benefits your downshifting giving you a smooth transaction,and it’s easier on the transmission synchros for older cars
heyaheyaheya it’s not necessary for new cars unless you’re tracking it,on the track you want know how to heel n toe to keep those rpm’s up,it takes some skill but you get used to it eventually
Do you guys also do video tutorials on how to heel toe DS??
Not yet 👍 please suggest any specific area to focus more on
In the end how did you put it in neutral without pressing the clutch
Maybe it's magic!
Magic........... Try it on your car.. 🤣🤣
is the turbo works on that civic? cause i dont hear the turbo
It should works cause its fast
This guy shifts faster than a dual clutch holy fuck
Your Foot Is Very Quick 👊 I Can't Do it in Normal Car 😏 !?
The faster you want to go, the quicker your movements can / should be 👍👍
How did you do that! ?😂
Stock pedal placement? Or adjusted?
Stock everything from Honda Malaysia 👍
@@zerotohundred do we really need to adjust the stock pedal heights in order to make it ideal for hell and toe? if yes, how? if no, how can we improve H&T skill from day to day basis? Genting run often like 0-100th? LOL!
Yann Hwa Tan just practice day by day. And step by step slowly. Eventually you’ll find the balance between the brake and gas pedal so you won’t stall while heel to toe.
I have stage 3 clutch in my DC5, I learned it in 3 days & fully able to make it second nature after a month 👍🏽👍🏽
@@tanyannhwa4831 really not needed at all in most cases, unless it is really impossible, very old cars or certain adjustable racecar pedal box.
Try watching our other H&T videos, perhaps the TGR Vios Footcam might enlighten you further on the different feet gestures you can experiment with. Last but not least, keep practising and strive for perfection 👍
Thanks a lot for your opinions visual and zero!
It looked like jerky braking, when it was made by car.
nice demonstration oof how it works,
but actually the pedals of type R are too far to do a good heel & toe
Acuity sells pedal relocation so you can do it.
Real man use 3 pedal, same like me. NEED TO SPEED
Then you clearly are not a normal human being
No doubt auto rev match does it more precise than 99.999% drivers, but heel-toe is fun, even when u mess it up.
Good point 👍
Nicholas Thon when you mess up= over rev?
man that engine just doesnt sound liek it likes to rev, rather have an NA high revving engine with dual vtec. I had a 2019 mustang gt manual with rev match. It was amazing and always perfect would even hold the gear and decelerate the engine as the speed was reduced. Even held the Rpm on upshift perfectly for lazy shifting and super smooth. I could shift to 3rd take 2 seconds and just dump the clutch felt like i never changed gears
What's the difference? What did you do you still stepped on the three pedals? 😰😰😰
Watch 2:10 onwards
zerotohundred i watched it til the end of the video. Is it the changing to low gear that you never touched the rev pedal?
@@jefffuego2257 yes, that was the 2 pedal downshift lap wasn't it?
zerotohundred ah ok. Do you really need to rev it when downshifting? I mean if you're not in autorev mode.
@@jefffuego2257 you can if you want but Auto Rev Match will come in if you don't
シビックタイプRはヒールアンドトゥする必要ないと思う!自動で回転数合わせてくれるし
はい、でも運転手が好むなら使うのもいいですね 👍
when you wanna heel & toe but your too tall 😔
Move the seat back
And I'm too short. Sigh
@@shauntan2266 move the seat up
@@jamila9769 I've tried move to the highest then tried the mid height. Lowest position give me the best driving experience. Will try it out again stage by stage. Thanks
That Ktuner crap gauge is annoying AF
It's a Motec display 👍
zẻotohundred ah my bad back to regularly scheduled program then
I used to think I was a decent manual driver but man this guy makes me look like a noob
It just looks better on video 😆
Nah, i wouldn't use auto rev match no fun in that
Good point, but for what's worth, apart from freeing one from H&T, the ARM has its advantages in increased braking efficiency, even opening up other possibilities once only reserved for modern sequential or dct transmissions
I think auto revmatching is a big yes yes cuz although all of us can rev match brake ourselves but havent we realise the problem you have to brake hard and at speed most of time and you are not giving full attention anddelicate control to the braking if the surface is loose locking up the wheel is a ngihtmare(can cause spin out) so i think auto revmatch is a must.Theres gonna be someone who cant accept the fact but hey i still heel toe myself and realising the problem with it.
yes ARM is ingenious and enable more people to enjoy manual cars without the fuss of heel and toe, also potentially improving lap times 👍
Tom tom
Que que
You making the revmatch useless.
But it does come in handy at times 👍
simo..-8)
thank for like....ciao.-simo:1
if you really think that you are better than a computer than your delusional
You must be a computer than
Then explain why racer doesnt use computer controlled traction control ?
@@ihaveaname1894 because regulations forbid driver aids
No one is, That's why computer assists and automation make for such dreadful racing if overused/Over relied on.
Fuck honda
You can shove it up your own ass