This Woman was FIRED During her Actual WEDDING DAY...
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
- This woman was fired on her actual wedding day by text. And what was worse, the company and her boss were fully aware that it was her wedding day. The idea that someone could take that moment to give her that news is just horrendous and one of the most toxic things that I have encountered.
What was meant to be one of the most special moments in her life was tainted. And it just was so unnecessary. Everything I found out about this company just sounded awful. From firing people without giving any reasons, to toxic behaviours, to guilt trips, basically everything you would expect a company that would fire someone on their wedding day to be.
Is this the worst day you can be told that you were fired?
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I was front row to this sh** show. Ruined her day. I was so angry for the couple. She was given glowing feedback while working and then to have this on her wedding day. I’m very proud of her for not laying down and taking it and I’m glad that in some ways this company is going to be shown to be the horrible company they are. I appreciate Ben giving her a voice too.
It is the least I could do mate, I am glad she has people like you in her corner!
Clearly that was intentional to ruin her wedding. Obviously they could have waited 24 hours. 😠
@@Ben-Askins , how does one contact you? I have a story you might like to hear.
@@fdm2155 I dont think it was . I suspect it is the Napoleon complex of not caring for minions as they dont matter .
From whats stated they have a large turnover of staff and thats because they are not valued and are easily replaceable .
I have worked for a place that was very much the same . The boss had a new £100K car every year ( with one of his selections of private plates ) and a house in Cyprus as a weekend get away but yet cost restraints ment mini wage and a 3 strikes and you are out policy . A strike could be talking to someone on the way or back from the toilet even if it was work related ! . You talk to those in charge only ............... i didnt last long 🙂 . Oddly i wasn't fired but walked away which was apparently unusual .
There raison d'etre was to take on foreign workers who couldnt speak English , give them complicated work loads , watch them fail then sack them the same day for being useless at the role . You soon learned to called everyone mate as to remember a name was pointless .
@@fdm2155 Oh sure. That would have made her honeymoon so much better. 🤨
They should be sued for intentional infliction of emotional distress. This was deliberate.
Wouldnt get far to be honest. Few have the funds to sue for emotional distress.
Proving emotional distress is a lot harder than people think it is.
Probation period or not, having asked if she intended to have children and then firing her is a cast iron discrimination claim. Get a lawyer.
The only thing that surprises me about bosses is that they find new ways to make us lose hope in humanity
There are a lot of good ones out there! I appreciate my channel is not the best advert for them
@@Ben-AskinsYour channel does highlight some bad practices, but it really helps people like me to know what the red flags are before they get out of hand or appear in my blind spots.
I agree that there are some great bosses out there (I've fortunately currently got a good boss) but having worked in multiple sectors (such as a well known fast food chain), I've seen my fair share of bad apples.
Keep up your work on this channel Ben.
Jeeze this is some ugly behavior for sure. I don't know how some people can still look in the mirror.
Your channel also helps me (as a new manager) what details to look at to recognize if something starts to go bad, and the good advices help me to keep my moral compass point to the right direction! My general rule of thumb is still to treat people how I'd like to be treated in the same situation. Thank you! 🙂
@@Ben-Askins I'd disagree, by highlighting what shouldn't be done you inform people who may be toiling under bad management as to what they shouldn't have to put up with that is really important for people to know.
I'd also like you to know that I've recently moved into a managerial role of sorts and I've found your channel an invaluable asset as to what I should not do and a reminder that I should endeavour to treat people, even when they cause me related issues, with simple humanity and rather than berate them unfairly for causing me a problem, to resolve it and then reflect if further action even needs to be taken, often it doesn't.
Problem is, idiots like those in these stories give us good leaders a bad name. It took me a while in one of my roles to win my teams trust because of what they experienced before.
I had an employer try to cancel my already approved time off. Wedding is planned, guests from ovwrseas from have RSVP'd. She knew all this and still told me to be in for the time I had requested for my wedding and honeymoon. I stared at her in preys disbelief and answered with 2 simple words: I QUIT!
That's what your boss or manager. expected u to do ...they knew that u were going to quit ..because they knew your plans ....thats what a normal person would do ..the boss did it because they knew u would get mad and u would verbally quit ..makes u wonder what they would have said ...if u would agreed and would have shown up for work.....because the boss will use every excuse to get rid of u ..why do companies terminate at the last minute.. document what u went thru ..its all in the motive of boss..u was an easy excuse to exploit on your part ....never ever let your bosses know your plans except for expected employee time off. .when u work in a job..... tell u bosses what they want to hèar . in the end its your word against theirs ...they are the ones with the lawyers. also the higher up u go in a company the worse it gets ...theres alot of employee envy ...its how u play the game ..
Should've waited to be fired and sue them for constructive dismissal.
@@markdouglas5310 Didn't need the added stress. Now I was free full time to plan my wedding in the 5 months between The Proposal & The Day.
If she was given good reviews during her probationary period then her reason for dismissal was poor performance then she has the grounds for an employment tribunal.
They can say that her performance decreased after the probationary period. Unless you can prove some form of discrimination, you have no chances of winning that lawsuit.
I would imagine she was still in her probationary period if the notice was only 1 week
Sadly, when you're in probation, you can't tend to go to the Tribunal :( A silly rule - but one in which they clearly abuse ....
Within two years you cannot bring an unfair dismissal case - unless discrimination can be proved - this applies also if you're "on probation"
Firing her on her wedding day is the most petty thing I have heard yet.
Agreed!
I hope she is able to find a better job in the same field and that her new company drives these monsters out of business.
Try despicable and you would have it just about right.
Replace evil with despicable and you would have it just about right.
She did not take permission from her employer to get married. Probably kept them in the dark regarding her marriage plans all along.
Boss was jealous that she was getting married. Passive aggressive revenge...
Couldn't agree more. The fact that they hire almost all young female employees and actively dissuade them from getting married and/or having children almost sounds like they are being groomed for sexual harassment.
This company needs to get blacklisted
They will get found out
We should always know company names.
Blacklisted from what? This makes absolutely no sense.
@listey blacklisted to anyone they attempt to recruit. That's actually a thing, employees/ex-employees reviews.
Glassdoor has an entire section about it, and companies like this one often submit requests to remove comments and reviews when they find they can no longer hire anyone.
@@pedrodaniellopesferreira2916 Glassdoor has been caught taking down reviews if a company bribes/threatens though.
The fact that she sent you a message as well as an email just shows she wanted to ruin your wedding day…
Really shady company and boss. What a coward to fire via text, not to mention the timing.
Agreed, absolute shocker
I wouldn’t accept termination of employment any way except in person.
@@Ben-Askins haha, love the content so this is meant positively, but you write text as you speak. i can hear you in this comment XD
And to break contact after that, no after care, feedback or anything. What absolute nut cases.
A friend of mine got a branch award and regional "excellence" awards in the same week as he was let go for lack of work.
That is wild
Make it make sense.
was there managers pizza?
Wow!! And I thought it was bad when I was messaged on my wedding day by my boss asking me to do invoicing 🙄 (because most brides carry a laptop on their wedding day).
That is such a weird thing for your boss to do!
That’s why wedding dresses are sometimes so wide: all the better to hide your laptop under ;-)
I got made redundant on my Husband's 50th birthday. I had worked for that company for 8 years, I had taken annual leave for that day to do something special, and she knew I had plans for his birthday. I made the mistake of answering the phone that morning to receive the news that I was redundant effective immediately and placed on garden leave. Ironically, my official last day was My Birthday in August. Then 3 months later I was offered my dream job out of the blue with a start up with my dream job and I've never looked back and have gone on to do way better things; almost 5 years later, I've more than doubled my salary and with an industry that I love and a fantastic team that I work with. In hindsight, she did me a favour!
@fiiboss that's great, but remember you were offered your dream job because you must be talented at what you do. Fate and talent colliding! Perfect!
My last day for one of my redundancies was the day my second son was born, my wife had 30 hours of labour so I came into the office with 0 sleep to say goodbye to everyone, I was a little emotional from memory. I did get a better job and got a decent pay out so it wasn't all bad.
Never give credit to someone who had ill intent towards you. Circumstances were in your favour, not that she did you a favour! Next, she will take credit for it and gloat about how she 'helped you out!' You got the job - you did NOT need her help!
@@spinmaster0 Yes - while its great she is positive - I hate the phrase "they did me a favour" in this context - malicious narcissists do things for narcissistic feed - nasty - i'm off to r/maliciouscompliance
YAAAAY !!!!
This is literally unbelievable. One of the most despicable ways I can think of to fire someone.
Shocker isn't it
Makes one wonder if her bosses ,with so little compassion or consideration, are all pschopathic individuals. She's going to be so glad she's out of that company. How toxic!
It's a perfect example of heartlessness
If they asked about children that’s against the law
It is a weird question to ask in the context of this story for sure
@@Ben-AskinsI had an interview in which I was asked if I had kids. I said yes and then he asked me if I planned on having more. I got up and stormed out- his manager was outside and asked me if I was ok. I said “no, I’ve just been asked if I plan to have more children which shows you discriminate against mothers. Don’t think I want to work here” then left.
@@blackwell754 they would never ask the same question of a man, although I was once asked how my wife would feel about my moving to take up a job. These questions are irrelevant in an interview context.
Almost every parent I have encountered in the workplace has completely taken the piss and generally get away with it, so it's maybe not an unreasonable preconceived idea. As someone who is single I bear the brunt of that through no fault of my own and that is brutally unfair.
@@listey Ok, we ignore the fact that you cannot discriminate against someone because they have or intend to have children. Then employers should ask the question to all men instead. women over about 40 are safe from that aspect in any case, while some men have children in their 80s. And when it comes to you having to do stuff because you have coworkers with children thats your employers responcibility not the coworker. Do you blame people that get sick too if you have to do more work?
Sounds like discrimination, plain and simple. Having "the right to let you go for any reason" does *not* include discrimination. It's illegal. Get a solicitor.
I really hope this company gets revealed, and that they face some serious consequences for this!
The circumstances are basically irrelevant. Firing someone via email or WhatsApp is just cowardly. And then adding insult to injury by doing it on her wedding day? That is just despicable
The fact they did it on her wedding day after having asked about her intention to have children, and have otherwise hired all young, single, childless people, shows me it was intentional and illegal. I hope she is able to get compensation. Don't let them get away with it. Best of luck.
You're really only hearing her side of the story, fact is if the was a valuable member of the business she would still have a job. I've left jobs where my boss tried to offer me more money to stay and I've left jobs where my boss couldn't wait for me to get out of there.
Where I live, it was perfectly legal to ask about children and the like until about 20 years ago. And women were routinely discriminated against for exactly this thing. Where did I live? Oh, this little place called California.
@@josephoberlanderme too. I had a terrible time getting back into the work force when my youngest started school. I interviewed at more than a dozen places, and finally had to agree to work Saturdays, in order to get a job.
@justicedemocrat9357 so your defending a business who fires someone on their wedding day? Performance or importance of her role does not matter, that's some f*cked up sh*t!
@@justicedemocrat9357Really Is this the route you want to take? Is your head in the sand? Did you actually review any of the info? I'm flabbergasted at your opinion; however, it is your right to have an opinion. Hope one day it doesn't hit you from behind.
Even ignoring the fact that it's illegal, that timing is absolutely despicable.
As a childfree by choice, unmarried woman I think this was a dirty trick and it sounds like an immature bunch of mean girls regardless of gender that quite frankly haven't grown up to run a coffee machine let alone a company. Such a dick move but I think later on down this lady's career path she's going to see she got out at the right time.
When I was 25 I got hired as a leasing consultant for an apartment management company. I worked my notice and on the last day of the notice, I was at home on my lunch hour and they called me and told me corporate had eliminated the position. I was to get a discounted apartment as part of the salary, and they had the nerve to ask me if I still wanted the apartment (at full price). I was packed to move and the truck was coming the next day to relocate me three hours away, and I lived paycheck to paycheck in those days. I didn't know what to do. I bit the bullet and moved anyway, put my stuff in storage and lived in a friend's guest room for a month while I pounded the pavement every day until I found another job. To this day I wonder if the boss from my previous job (same industry) badmouthed me to them and that my new job had not been eliminated at all. Guess I'll never know.
If you had a written offer and/or signed the joining docs you should have gone the legal route.
The x at the end 🤦🏻♀️ absolutely insufferable
Agreed, it really got me
I am noticing that many English people will end a text with an “X”, not meaning it as a kiss, but rather a substitute for a more traditional sign-off 🤨🤔
@@amandajingleheimerschmidt3050 Well if that's become a thing it needs to stop as of yesterday.
You don't end a text like that with "kiss" without pure malice in your heart.
I agree, can't get my head around that part
Sex discrimination on a massive scale.
How?
@@swaters5127 You may notice it by watching the video, but to recap: Actively avoids hiring women who have partners, children, married, intending to have children, etc. They hire and maintain exclusively single women. They ask illegal questions during hiring and throughout the employment about how if they intend to have children, or how many. This is a company that is pretty overtly discriminating against women who don't conform to the company's preferred, arbitrary norms.
@@Drunkenvalley Unfathomable that anybody would not know this is sex discrimination and unlawful in UK law and many other legal jurisdictions.
Also disability discrimination, with that comment about 'hiring Stephen Hawking' being allowed to pass
@@kikidevine694 indeed so, they're beyond the pale
That is absolutely disgusting. Definitely need to go court
I worked for a wall st.type company and we were having struggles. We had about 500 employees and we cut almost 100. We did take a lot of time making the best strategies to become profitable..
Cutting 100 people was terrible. But the day it happens is awful..once the phone rings at the desk security walks you over and takes you to HR and you never come back. We'll we go thru it all and we realize that "Scott" isn't in...we fired his team lead so we go to the next guy up and say where isnScott? He is getting married tomorrow.. we struggled for an hour..do we tell him or let him know when he gets back.
I will say after seeing this video I am proud of what we did. We didn't tell him.. he went to Hawaii or somewhere for 2 weeks. Many of his friends were fired and he knew at the wedding that we let a lot of people go...
He came back to work 2 weeks later. We added 5k to his severance (a wedding gift) and let him go.
NAME & SHAME THE COMPANY!!
my thought exactly.
Low wage churn, basically keep hiring and firing to avoid payrises and redundancy payouts for those at the bottom of the ladder.
I’m so glad she is following this up and fighting against this companies behaviour.
This termination felt very toxic and personal. Probably someone who was mad because they can’t keep a man themselves.
It was sex discrimination, pure and simple. She was now a married woman who planned to have children in the future. Hence the timing, and also the rest of the women were single.
This is abhorrent. It’s also why most women keep their personal lives a secret, especially pregnancy. Most don’t tell until they can’t hide in any more for reasons just like this.
Glassdoor: “Sacked during my wedding…”
You need to plan your pregnancy with your employer and convince them it’s a good idea.
If they’re not on board and you don’t have their approval, then they have no obligation to support you and can let you go.
@@anuragchakraborty8766 That is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard. No company has the right to dictate someone's family planning according to business requirements. Being pregnant or a parent doesn't make anyone less committed to doing a great job in any role.
@@strawberrykatnz The real world does not run on your ideals.
In the real world, your employer helps you earn a living which puts food on your table and a roof above your head. Therefore they expect to have a say over every aspect of your life. And if you deny them that privilege, they will literally find your replacement in 2 seconds or just eliminate your position altogether.
@@anuragchakraborty8766 No, employers have zero say in people's decisions to have children or not. You certainly live in some backwards society to be thinking that. I have lived in 3 countries and none of them have employers who expect to have a say as to whether it's a good time or not for an employee to start having kids, that's the most ludricious thing I have heard in awhile.
@@strawberrykatnz Keep living in your fantasy land but I have a feeling you’re due for a rude awakening one of these days. Give it some time
The gaslighting is incredibly disgusting! Without all the facts but absolutely believing your caller, this screams of sex discrimination. As for the circumstances - no words (that are printable anyway)!
a company like that, deserve to get so many bad reviews that they have to shut down.
Deleted emails CAN be resurrected.
God, that's worse than the time I was fired the week of my birthday
That also sounds terrible, I am very sorry that happened to you
I was fired on my birthday. I was working remotely that day so I could go out to an early dinner with my husband that night. They called me up and fired me saying that the position had been eliminated (A lie). I was told I needed to drive to the office to drop off my computer before the EOB. I said no. I told them to ship me a box with everything from my desk, and I would return the box at their expense with my laptop. The box was empty with a note that all of my belongings from my desk had been thrown out. They hired a replacement the very next day after firing me - this a guy with no experience but had been a friend of someone at the parent company who wanted my job. They paid him 30K more and he proceeded to cost them thousands over the next few months as he botched everything he touched.
@@visionsofparadise578 okay you win
@@visionsofparadise578 This is why I don't keep anything personal that I have bought myself including pictures at my desk at work. Not that I have ever had this happen, but it just isn't worth doing so. Is it legal for them to throw out your personal stuff? Hopefully, it wasn't much.
@@lilfizz1619 I was fired on my actual birthday (the job before my last one). Classy!
A friend of mine was fired on the last day of her probation period in Germany. She was only a substitute for an employee who was on maternity leave but apparently she was never informed about that.
I feel like as an employer you can be honest about stuff like that and just come to a mutual agreement that the employment is only temporary.
Müssen sie Dir nicht sagen, ob es eine Vertretung ist? Das hört sich so illegal an. Hoffe Ihre Freundin/Ihr Freund hat schnell was neues gefunden!
Yes, when I was job hunting I took temporary roles to cover maternity leave and medical leave. That was clear at the start that the employee was expected to return.
Actually you have to inform applicants about a temporary employment in Germany. That was illegal.
@@pja8722 Eben!
@@pja8722 I think they hired the person as permanent knowing they would fire them before the end of probation. It was probably much cheaper than paying an agency fee for a temporary employee. So, yes, they committed fraud.
It's the 'x' that lets you know, without a shadow of a doubt, that this person is a psychopath.
I had this happen to me too. During my wedding my phone is going bonkers. I don't look until next day. Then a few months later, my friend who also worked there was also terminated and she sued. I was called as a witness for her in court and the owner called me by the name of a victim of a murder who was in the headlines at the time, MULTIPLE times during the hearing. Needless to say they are long since out of business.
Idea for the Hook Line of her Glassdoor Review: Would you like to have chaos in your life? Well, this is the company for you! Make sure you're single and ready to mingle, or you'll be replaced very quickly during your probationary period. The company is your family, so stop what you're doing and don't go off getting a family of your own.
I actually would like to know the company for once. I don’t want to fall into the same trap.
She said that there are only 35 employees in the company and all were young, unmarried women with no children. That's a lot of details right there for someone to keep in mind that is job hunting.
@@valerieking5265 It honesty sounds like a new start up company. These companies or small ones tend to be awful from what I’ve seen.
This needs maximum publicity and media coverage. Name and shame.
4:05 In the U.S., the question about having kids would court legal action.
Same in the UK
They don't see employees as human.
I left a terrible workplace recently after they'd fired staff before their probation ended for flimsy reasons, and as I was only casual, I strongly suspected I was next on the chopping board
In the 1950’s, 60’s and even 70’s a single woman might be fired if she got married, or take a major pay cut, because it was assumed that her husband would be supporting them. This whole thing makes me wonder what century those people are living in 🤯🤬
When I was 19 years old. I had a comment in an interview when they realised I was engaged. "You'll be having children soon." Maybe I will, and maybe I won't. It's none of their business. In reality, I did not have any children until 9 years later. I have 1 child who is now 7. So, to all employers out there, do not assume.
Name and shame this company! We need to start holding them accountable publicly!
What kind of boss is this ,what a witch. Performance my butt, they wanted a single person they could control. 4 people fired in less than a year. Sounds like a scam by this employer
The timing of the message was deliberate to cause maximum upset. It's sociopathic behaviour.
The bride is much better off out of there. It sounds like working for Regina and her Mean Girls more than a proper company.
It sounds to me that they fired her because she got married and wanted to have kids and they didn't want to deal with maternity leave or her having a family to take care of that might divert her attention from work. I know in the US they aren't allowed to ask someone if they are planning to have kids or stuff about their personal lives. Not sure about the rules in UK but I would think it's not any of their business.
I hope she sues and wins.
Definitely not allowed in the UK. Even if that is their approach (which is not allowed) to go ahead on the wedding day is just appalling.
Trial period, lower pay. So they hire proby after proby, but never grant tenure.
And screaming sexism
Yes, and that's easily proved.
@@Ben-Askins I agree. It's also egregious that they did it via a messenger thing instead of in person. I honestly think that telling her on her wedding day was maliciousness to punish her for getting married while pretending to be happy for her. Might have also been a warning to other female employees that the same would happen to them if they got married because word would absolutely get around about her being fired on her wedding day. I hope that business goes belly up and that the non-malicious employees all find better jobs.
I started working at a company in April 2017. I had some major health issues and I got called on my personal cell phone, in the hospital, right before another surgery, to be told that I missed too many days during the probationary period, and I was terminated. That stay in the hospital was 29 days, and five surgeries. By the end of the year, I had a total of 9 surgeries, and had spent an aggregate over 2 months in the hospital. And that's still not the worst treatment I've received from an employer. Best wishes to the caller/bride. Hope we get an update.
This happened to a patient back when I worked at a hospital. It was not only emotionally distressing, but she lost her medical insurance because of it.
@@pianolady10 I was fortunate in that because of the circumstances my husband added me to his insurance (it was cheaper to have our own policies since we don't have kids) plus I could keep mine through COBRA. So in a weird way I'm glad it happened because I had 2 insurances covering costs. Before insurance, my total 2017 medical costs were about $750,000 US. We paid less than $3000 US out of pocket, plus some was paid with FLEX money. It sucked, it was painful physically as well as mentally, but we didn't have to file for bankruptcy. We kept the house. I got to come home to our fur babies and one feather baby. And in a couple of weeks, hubby and I will celebrate being married for 25 years.
Companies are just getting lower. Why on her wedding day. That will always stay with her 😒😔
Disability discrimination should never be tolerated. Sexual descrimination is also a concern with this. I would definitely report them to applicable agencies.
You need to start giving names of these companies so people looking for work can avoid
That’s what I was thinking too
Could have easily waited a few days, seems purposeful.
I agree, there is a cruelty to this, they didn't forget, they knew what they were doing
They obviously didn't want to do a face-to-face. They are nothing more than cowards.
"Kiss!!" What kind of boss sends a KISS? THAT IS WEIRD!😮😮
I do think you dodged a bullet!!
BTW, Congratulations!!!
this company needs to be named and shamed to protect other people
I am absolutely appalled! I'm so sorry this happened to you, Amanda. Thanks for offering her help Ben. I know exactly what it's like to get fired completely unfairly and I worked with my previous company for a decade and trained staff and was constantly pushed back from promotion. It's been getting close to a year and after plenty of applications and several interviews, I still have not found a role. It just sucks, especially knowing your work brought in thousands upon thousands of dollars for a company over the long run and they still haven't picked up their gear from my house!🤦🏼♀️ Some companies need to be named and shamed. I hope Amanda finds something soon!
This company runs an inhumane staff policy that does not provide staff assessment during probation and knowingly fires new staff during their wedding day by using WhatsApp messaging. I would seriously warn and advise job seekers not to apply for employment with this company .
Straight to the information commissioner for the SAR refusal
This. I’m currently dealing with that myself with my former employer, he refused to provide an employee record and feigned ignorance to avoid providing me with it within the 1 month ICO timeframe. Employee records legally have to be kept for 6 years from the date of leaving a company.
To legally sue them, need to go through the County Court, the ICO doesn’t provide compensation but it’s recommended to go through and complete ICO obligations before suing.
Section 167-169 of the Data Protection Act 2018 and UK GDPR, sue for damages and distress.
Agreed, that part of the story stank to high heaven (I mean it all did)
@@darthraider450 plus the ICO can fine them.
And keep putting it in and keep getting them fined if they keep refusing.
And if they deleted the records, report to whomever enforces their record keeping
@@TheJase8566 the ICO is stepping in now to deal with it. I fulfilled my obligations and requirements legally, now hopefully the ICO forces them to enforce the rules but it’s likely the company either lost my record or deliberately lying, both constitute a breach of the Data Protection Act anyways so as soon as the ICO get back to me with the result of their findings, I’m paying the £332 straight to the county court and suing for as much compensation as I can. Likely the company will come back and settle beforehand before taking the L in court.
@@darthraider450🎯🎯🎯
It had nothing to do with her performance. It seems that they are in the habit of paying less to their employees who are at a starting wage and then getting rid of them before they would get a raise in pay. If she decides to pursue a discrimination claim, she may want to check into exactly how many people were let go just before their probationary period was over along with how many of them had kids or were recently pregnant or engaged.
If an employer is continuously hiring and firing to avoid paying permanent pay rates it is a false economy and actually has a detrimental effect on all aspects of performance. Preaching to the choir I know.
I was fired once during probation because my performance was not up to standards (they forced me and lured me into taking the position that I did not want), and it happened right after I came back from holidays. They knew it was gonna happen but at least they waited for me to be back to tell me. It's literally the minimum level of humanity, respect and professionalism.
Name and shame is the ONLY remedy!
My sister worked (low end packing job) at a well know chemist in the UK. Most of the ladies there were temporary shift workers, no matter how many hours or years they had put in. While she was there many men (who started after her) were given full time positions and one young lady who was openly lesbian and her mum. Everyone knew they didn’t often give younger women permanent positions because they didn’t want to pay for maternity leave (this was long before men got any paid maternity leave). The perks were good, she got us a lot of heavily discounted toiletries and No.7 products, but she eventually got sick of not knowing how many hours she would be getting from week to week and left for a better job.
I worked for my cousin for 11 years. He sold his business with the provision that his employees would be kept on for 3 months. Fine. I provided my cousin with a list of everything in the office that belonged to me and not the company so there would be no misunderstandings...which turned out to be prophetic. A week after the company sale was finalized my cousin died of a heart attack; a few days earlier one of my aunts had died, and I asked the new owner permission to go to her memorial, which was the same week as my cousin's death. When I returned to the office after the memorial, the new owner told my associate and I we were fired, and we had the afternoon to remove our things from the office while he watched. So much for the 3 months of continued employment; it was a lot of loss to suffer in just one week.
That is awful. I hope that things have become a bit easier for you.
Ben, you seem like a genuinely nice guy, and i imagine you are a great boss, your staff are lucky to work for someone like you.
I hope the company sees this and faces the backlash for its horrible behavior.
It bothers me to no end that people treat people like this. Forget the boss/company versus employee relationship, how can you justify in your brain treating people that way. I see it and deal with it everyday and I will never understand it. Ben, thank you for shedding the light on this. I hope your voice continues to grow exponentially!
Companies should be fined for texting or emailing employees after hours or during employees vacation time period.
Fired by text while you're on vacation....
That's disgraceful.
We had someone who they had to call and let them know they were fired on vacation, but that's because someone disabled their accounts early, and he had called in to find out why he couldn't check email. They had intended to wait till he got back to let him know
Wow!! That's heartless! That poor woman, especially getting fired on her wedding day.
Name and shame companies like that!
I agree that she's better off not being part of that company long term.
If asked her about having children, big red flag.... That alone could constitute be a violation of employment law. Very suspicious timing.
If a boss has this type of evaluation, then there should be a paper trail and interventions provided to support the employee to meet expectations.
In my first job i had PTO booked off for the back half of a week in november, I had started working there in July and booked the time off immediately as my graduation ceremony was on the thursday so i'd travel on the Wednesday, stay in bournemouth overnight, graduate and head back the next day.
That week was one of the worst weeks of my life. My dog passed away on the monday and he'd been part of my family since I was 7 (14 years) and then the day after my graduation on the friday I got a call saying I was being let go due to redundancy. It should have been the best week of my life, I officially got my degree and I had a job but that was taken away. Glad to say i'm much happier with my current job which i've been at for just over a year, but it did take 6 months to get
Also, failure to respond to the SAR is another compensation claim.
This is so toxic (especially the details of the case). Congratulations to the caller on the marriage. Best wishes moving forwards in life with a worthy employer.
Looking for a job is the hardest and worst job a person can have. Coming from a horrible company that let her go knowing it was her wedding makes it hard to believe there are decent people and companies out there
"..quickly growing company...." not for much longer hopefully!
Corporate B.S. detector reads: "high turnover company"
I have no knowledge of the UK laws, but here in the US any employment attorney would be foaming at the mouth to get their claws into This Woman's case! I would love an update as to where she ended up landing in employment, and I would love to have a gander of that glass door review! Congratulations on your wedding and good luck at your new company wherever that may be you deserve it! Her old company deserves the garbage dump!
That lady's boss needs to have the sign on his office door replaced with the word ... well, it rhymes with punt.
If they were even minimally justified in those multiple firings, that wouldn't say much for their hiring process...
As it is, that's a vicious and unforgivable way for any business to terminate people.
I worked for a company that had a bad habit of suddenly finding multiple issues with long-term employees conveniently after FMLA requests. Nothing to see...
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Publish the name of the company that fired you, they can't sue you for telling the truth. If you do that, at least everyone will then know to avoid these scum bags like the plague. Also, who knows, perhaps you can even loose them enough business to bankrupt them.
So many companies in Australia that operate here like this! Churn through employees like a wood chipper!
yes that is what I was thinking. In Australia I have been let go of because of age (I cost more than a teenage employee) and other things that were just weird.
@@playlisttarmac False economy in the end.
Unfortunately there are a lot of these about at “many” levels. And really terrible bosses who let good people go for some really silly reasons! Good luck to you and I’m sure you’ll find somewhere good to work in the near future!
One of my previous employers "set up" a situation to end 3 peoples trial period so they could terminate the contract with the staff. They also gave no legitimate reasoning to the dismissal.
A real pity these companies should be named and shamed .
wow, i was waiting for the glassdoor review plan, definitely deserve to have people warned, I honestly only heard of one other company doing that to someone and it was made a big deal their too but it was also in a time where this company was known for being a bit controversial and they did i think issue an apology but my memory is a bit hazy, they definitely need a reprimand for that and your request for an explanation was so well put, the discrimination on family life is so disgusting for me
“The decision has been made.” Passive voice-the grammatical case of cowards.
Sounds like discrimination towards families or women that are pregnant, have kids, or want kids. If it's in the US - you probably have a case for discrimination. I don't know about other jurisdictions.
It is also true for the UK where this happened. Once she starts taking it through the ACAS system, she will get a few low ball offers to make her go away, but if she sticks with the process, she will get a lot more.
Thankfully yes, but 20 or 30 years ago, there were no effective protections because they could always weasel their way out of it with any number of tactics. One place I worked at manufactured fake write-ups and the state accepted their word over the employee's - including forging signatures and the like, without question. Just to keep from paying unemployment.
Needing to have her chair be adjusted & asked “who do you think you are, Stephen Hawking?” My God, what an awful company!
I would be whistle blowing the crap out of that place, if they have done this before and quite regularly they must be getting some kind of benefit from it, maybe a government payout or something, because the amount of time, effort and money it takes to hire someone and to then fire them has to be offset some how. Something seriously dodgy is happening.
Start naming companies
It isn't my decision whether to reveal the company or not. And the reason people don't is that it hampers any process they might be going through from a legal perspective.
Pay day for the lawyers in many cases.
Can they do class action lawsuits in the UK? This is a clear case of discrimination. How infuriating!
Loosing that job was the best gift
This very same thing happened when I was contracting with Marsh Ideas in Cincinnati in 2019. It's no surprise that within two years, the company was downsized by 2/3rds - including the creative director who did me in.
When they don’t shows themselves on the video it gives you more reason to think that there is another side to this story that would shed light on the ridiculous way this played out.