No, I haven't seen any other strap-based systems! I did see a backpack-type bass shaker, but I don't believe it is available anymore, and I'm not sure how comfortable it would be with a bass on!
Fantastic review thank you so much for exploring all the details so well. And then the last question I had was about the bassboard and then you talked about that too! I’m going to IEM’s for the first time in 30 years of playing and looking for that extra bass feel.
I'm glad I was able to help! This or the bassboard are great options if you want more of that live feel without the volume! You'll get more power out of the bassboard, but it cuts down your movement, so it's your preference!
@@GaryOnBassI just got a bassboard and it’s badass. The backbeat works surprisingly well and honestly eliminates the need for the bassboard. Though I’ll prob bring both 😂
@@GaryOnBass one more question for you man. Those clips that clip it onto the strap dig into my back. How do mitigate the uncomfortable nature of those metal clips sticking out?
Haha, that's great! A baseboard still tempts me, but the backbeat does more than the job! As for the clip, it is only uncomfortable on specific straps, usually the thicker ones. I would either try moving it to a thinner part of the strap or swapping it to a different strap! I ended up trying lots of straps and doing the latter! I currently use a relatively cheap lekato 3.5” padded strap from Amazon that works well!
If you use the supplied cable you don't have to run a cable out of your bass, up to the box and back down to your pedal board. You just run the one cable up the the Backbeat and plug your board right into the special connector. Seems pretty logical to me.
Yeah, that will definitely work. I do worry about having extra weight on the jack like that, though. I can see it opening up quite a few P-Bass jacks, which is common enough already! My main reason for needing the different plug, and possibly others, is that my bass has a recessed jack socket, which means the Backbeat jack doesn't fit, so I had to swap it for the straight jack! Either way, though, if it works, then it's all good! I'm just pleased that they did give an option to pass through the back seat, as that wasn't on the initial design and would have counted me out!
Thanks for the demonstration. Do you have any experience of running both bass and kick drum mixed into it? I’m thinking about sending kick drum and bass from the mixer on a monitor channel, directly to the backbeat. Do you think it would work?
Yes, that's exactly what I have! The bass is run directly from the bass and the kick comes in through the AUX channel. It allows me to be able to mix the on the back beat. You really feel when your locked in with the kick! Its great feedback live!
@@GaryOnBass I guess the second question for you! Thank you in advance for your time answering these! With regard to the Aux coming from the board with just kick into the Aux input jack- I’m assuming basically you control that on the PA mixing board and just send kick to that aux channel? Also I guess you have an adapter that turns an Aux XLR cable into 1/8 so it can plug into the unit?
Yeah, I send the kick within my IEM send, which all runs through the backbeat! I run PA for my band, so this isn't a big deal! My desk has a 1/4” TRS output, which I just adapt down using an extension cable! If you check out my video on IEMs, I talk about how I build my guitar/IEM cables, and you can see it there! It's pretty simple to do, though!
Thank you for the review, and pointing out the pros/cons. I have the 1st version of the BackBeat.. The reason I would update to the G2 is because of the weight... but after the cons you mention, I'll stay with what I have. I only used my BackBeat for the drum kick... then I use a bassboard to feel my bass instead of the BackBeat. It's difficult to explain how I set things up to hear my bass and personal mix... and at the same time... feel the kick, and feel my bass. Basically I split signals (bass on ch1 split to FOH, and FOH personal mix on ch2 split to BackBeat wirelessly). To hear both bass and FOH personal mix... My personal mixer output both channels to my senn ew g4 IEM wireless system. Someone let me try a branded bassboard... like the ones you mentioned. They are expensive like you said, but I liked it so much... I made my own. I've experimented with different transducers at different prices, and it's evolved over the past 5-6 years... but I finally nailed the perfect combo. Instead of paying $1k for a branded bassboard, you can DIY it for around $350 including the subamp. I love my bassboard more than my BackBeat... so most of the time, I leave the BackBeat at home. One less thing to set up at a gig. Anyway... thanks for the helpful vid. Saved me $400... for now.
Thanks for the comment; I'm glad it saved you some money until after Christmas, at least! You don't notice the weight of the G2 at all! I haven't used the G1, but I have heard that was a point of contention! It's interesting to hear someone using both a backbeat and a bassboard! I don't know if I like the idea of being stuck in one place! But your DIY bassboard is something which I have definitely thought about a few times! Thanks for watching!
@@GaryOnBass Since going ampless with IEM's nearly a decade ago... I've been on a quest... evolving my silent stage rig to feel like playing with a backline. It's evolved into a killer setup... easy setup/teardown, and transport. The kick of the drums on my back BackBeat, sync'd with the bassboard is emersion bliss. The bands personal mix is controlled in a mobile app individually. I use an iPad on my silent stage rig to control my mix. I mute the bass with the sliders on the app so I can only feel the kick... but I can easily slide my bass into the mix, and feel it on my BackBeat if I move off the Bassboard. Not only do I have the ew g4 iem, I also use an ew-d cl1 for my bass... so I'm fully wireless on iem's and bass. So I'm not really stuck in one place. My silent rig is a game changer... I would show you, but no DM's on UA-cam.
Sounds absolutely amazing! I have been running IEMs for about 15 years but with a large amp for 7 of those years! The Backbeat makes a huge difference to my mix that's for sure! Maybe the Bassboard will be next on the list, I have more than enough sub-mixes on my desk! Haha
@@TheZenithphoenix I made a simple DIY version with 2 Dayton Audio BST-1 Bass Shakers mounted on 24”x24” ply. Funny that you just seen this post. I’m in the process of building my next board with same parts and design of the EICH Bassboard’s from Germany. Next one will be 35”x24”, and will look exactly like the EICH, and function the same where the top half will be isolated internally from the bottom board.
Great review. I use wired iem into Behringer P1 which connects directly into bass amp. Could the backbeat replace the P1, and run the earphones from the backbeat allowing me to hear and feel what im playing? Looking for an individual solution. band not interested in iems😢
Ah that's a shame! IEMs are definitely the way! I did the exact thing and replaced my P1 with the backbeat! The input is a 3.5mm TRS Jack so you will probably need to adapt! I talk about how I do it in my IEM video! 👍
Thanks! I hope you enjoy the Backbeat as much as I do! If I am honest, the cons are more annoyances than anything! As long as you keep it charged and you find a good strap for it then it makes a big difference to your IEM mix!
I also have a G2 and it helps to know that you have the same battery issues, but I don't think it's caused by the switch being knocked on. I haven't gigged mine yet but left it on my strap in my practise room. I unplugged everything from it and definitely switched it off but the battery went flat in about a day and a half. I think that something is drawing current and flattening the battery even when it's off. Whatever is causing the flat battery, still means you have to charge it every time you use it. Mine isn't as critical. I use a Helix Stomp that I use the pitch shifter on to go to Eb standard and D standard, so the only signal I'm sending to the BackBeat is my bass post-Helix, and I'm using my in-ears straight from my IEM pack as I've always done, so if the battery goes flat mid-gig I just get the usual IEM mix.
Yes, I'm sure my problem is due to the ease of pushing the button to turn it on! I have accidentally knocked it on from time to time. Mine isn't too critical. I remember my settings quite well now, but it is still annoying! I used my IEM pack for a while, but I have found that the mix straight through the BackBeat is excellent and produces a clean mix.
If you have any questions about the BackBeat G2 drop them in the comments and I'll be sure to reply! 🤟
have you tried/heard of different "Strap-Plesureboards"?
No, I haven't seen any other strap-based systems! I did see a backpack-type bass shaker, but I don't believe it is available anymore, and I'm not sure how comfortable it would be with a bass on!
Purchased a G2 and love it. Just what I needed. Any advice on wired in ears to pair with it?
Yeah, check out my IEM video. I run through the loom I have made there!
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Fantastic review thank you so much for exploring all the details so well. And then the last question I had was about the bassboard and then you talked about that too! I’m going to IEM’s for the first time in 30 years of playing and looking for that extra bass feel.
I'm glad I was able to help! This or the bassboard are great options if you want more of that live feel without the volume! You'll get more power out of the bassboard, but it cuts down your movement, so it's your preference!
@@GaryOnBassI just got a bassboard and it’s badass. The backbeat works surprisingly well and honestly eliminates the need for the bassboard. Though I’ll prob bring both 😂
@@GaryOnBass one more question for you man. Those clips that clip it onto the strap dig into my back. How do mitigate the uncomfortable nature of those metal clips sticking out?
Haha, that's great! A baseboard still tempts me, but the backbeat does more than the job! As for the clip, it is only uncomfortable on specific straps, usually the thicker ones. I would either try moving it to a thinner part of the strap or swapping it to a different strap! I ended up trying lots of straps and doing the latter! I currently use a relatively cheap lekato 3.5” padded strap from Amazon that works well!
If you use the supplied cable you don't have to run a cable out of your bass, up to the box and back down to your pedal board. You just run the one cable up the the Backbeat and plug your board right into the special connector. Seems pretty logical to me.
Yeah, that will definitely work. I do worry about having extra weight on the jack like that, though. I can see it opening up quite a few P-Bass jacks, which is common enough already!
My main reason for needing the different plug, and possibly others, is that my bass has a recessed jack socket, which means the Backbeat jack doesn't fit, so I had to swap it for the straight jack!
Either way, though, if it works, then it's all good! I'm just pleased that they did give an option to pass through the back seat, as that wasn't on the initial design and would have counted me out!
@@GaryOnBass Man, the supplied cable IS a piece of crap!! I took it out today and when I put it in it is super flaky. I'm tossing it into the trash!
@aaronl7669 I’m sorry to hear that! But at least it’s a really easy fix!
Thanks for the demonstration. Do you have any experience of running both bass and kick drum mixed into it? I’m thinking about sending kick drum and bass from the mixer on a monitor channel, directly to the backbeat. Do you think it would work?
Yes, that's exactly what I have! The bass is run directly from the bass and the kick comes in through the AUX channel. It allows me to be able to mix the on the back beat.
You really feel when your locked in with the kick! Its great feedback live!
@@GaryOnBass I guess the second question for you! Thank you in advance for your time answering these! With regard to the Aux coming from the board with just kick into the Aux input jack- I’m assuming basically you control that on the PA mixing board and just send kick to that aux channel? Also I guess you have an adapter that turns an Aux XLR cable into 1/8 so it can plug into the unit?
Yeah, I send the kick within my IEM send, which all runs through the backbeat! I run PA for my band, so this isn't a big deal! My desk has a 1/4” TRS output, which I just adapt down using an extension cable! If you check out my video on IEMs, I talk about how I build my guitar/IEM cables, and you can see it there! It's pretty simple to do, though!
Thank you for the review, and pointing out the pros/cons. I have the 1st version of the BackBeat.. The reason I would update to the G2 is because of the weight... but after the cons you mention, I'll stay with what I have. I only used my BackBeat for the drum kick... then I use a bassboard to feel my bass instead of the BackBeat. It's difficult to explain how I set things up to hear my bass and personal mix... and at the same time... feel the kick, and feel my bass. Basically I split signals (bass on ch1 split to FOH, and FOH personal mix on ch2 split to BackBeat wirelessly). To hear both bass and FOH personal mix... My personal mixer output both channels to my senn ew g4 IEM wireless system. Someone let me try a branded bassboard... like the ones you mentioned. They are expensive like you said, but I liked it so much... I made my own. I've experimented with different transducers at different prices, and it's evolved over the past 5-6 years... but I finally nailed the perfect combo. Instead of paying $1k for a branded bassboard, you can DIY it for around $350 including the subamp. I love my bassboard more than my BackBeat... so most of the time, I leave the BackBeat at home. One less thing to set up at a gig. Anyway... thanks for the helpful vid. Saved me $400... for now.
Thanks for the comment; I'm glad it saved you some money until after Christmas, at least!
You don't notice the weight of the G2 at all! I haven't used the G1, but I have heard that was a point of contention!
It's interesting to hear someone using both a backbeat and a bassboard! I don't know if I like the idea of being stuck in one place! But your DIY bassboard is something which I have definitely thought about a few times!
Thanks for watching!
@@GaryOnBass Since going ampless with IEM's nearly a decade ago... I've been on a quest... evolving my silent stage rig to feel like playing with a backline. It's evolved into a killer setup... easy setup/teardown, and transport. The kick of the drums on my back BackBeat, sync'd with the bassboard is emersion bliss. The bands personal mix is controlled in a mobile app individually. I use an iPad on my silent stage rig to control my mix. I mute the bass with the sliders on the app so I can only feel the kick... but I can easily slide my bass into the mix, and feel it on my BackBeat if I move off the Bassboard. Not only do I have the ew g4 iem, I also use an ew-d cl1 for my bass... so I'm fully wireless on iem's and bass. So I'm not really stuck in one place. My silent rig is a game changer... I would show you, but no DM's on UA-cam.
Sounds absolutely amazing! I have been running IEMs for about 15 years but with a large amp for 7 of those years! The Backbeat makes a huge difference to my mix that's for sure! Maybe the Bassboard will be next on the list, I have more than enough sub-mixes on my desk! Haha
Wow what an epic rig!!! What size baseboard did you go with and are you happy with the size? Did you order direct from the company in Germany?
@@TheZenithphoenix I made a simple DIY version with 2 Dayton Audio BST-1 Bass Shakers mounted on 24”x24” ply. Funny that you just seen this post. I’m in the process of building my next board with same parts and design of the EICH Bassboard’s from Germany. Next one will be 35”x24”, and will look exactly like the EICH, and function the same where the top half will be isolated internally from the bottom board.
Great review. I use wired iem into Behringer P1 which connects directly into bass amp. Could the backbeat replace the P1, and run the earphones from the backbeat allowing me to hear and feel what im playing? Looking for an individual solution. band not interested in iems😢
Ah that's a shame! IEMs are definitely the way! I did the exact thing and replaced my P1 with the backbeat! The input is a 3.5mm TRS Jack so you will probably need to adapt! I talk about how I do it in my IEM video! 👍
@GaryOnBass thanks Gary. Much appreciated 👍
Thank you for this review! Just ordered one. Even with all the cons, it still almost sounds too good to be true!
Thanks! I hope you enjoy the Backbeat as much as I do! If I am honest, the cons are more annoyances than anything! As long as you keep it charged and you find a good strap for it then it makes a big difference to your IEM mix!
I also have a G2 and it helps to know that you have the same battery issues, but I don't think it's caused by the switch being knocked on. I haven't gigged mine yet but left it on my strap in my practise room. I unplugged everything from it and definitely switched it off but the battery went flat in about a day and a half. I think that something is drawing current and flattening the battery even when it's off. Whatever is causing the flat battery, still means you have to charge it every time you use it. Mine isn't as critical. I use a Helix Stomp that I use the pitch shifter on to go to Eb standard and D standard, so the only signal I'm sending to the BackBeat is my bass post-Helix, and I'm using my in-ears straight from my IEM pack as I've always done, so if the battery goes flat mid-gig I just get the usual IEM mix.
Yes, I'm sure my problem is due to the ease of pushing the button to turn it on! I have accidentally knocked it on from time to time. Mine isn't too critical. I remember my settings quite well now, but it is still annoying! I used my IEM pack for a while, but I have found that the mix straight through the BackBeat is excellent and produces a clean mix.
Gruv Grear is pronounced Groove Gear its a play on words... GROOVE! LOL
Interesting! Most people I have heard went for the same pronunciation as me! I've never thought too hard about it but that makes sense! Haha
Your spine'll be fine
Let's hope so! It’s basically a free back massage all gig! Haha