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That is my assumption too! Thanks for watching! 🙂

Thanks for watching! Your probably best off contacting a hire company, they may be able to bring lights for you to try out and may even help with setting up the DMX protocol!

@ wow 😯 that is an amazing idea!! Thanks a lot

No worries man! I hope it works out! 🤟

Thank you for watching! I can see what you mean; there are definitely cases for both! Bluetooth is great, but it's probably not something to sing and dance about! You can get a cheap battery-powered receiver for not a huge amount of money now, which is what I use when I don't have Bluetooth on my desk!

​​@@GaryOnBassexactly my point. There are ways around both. Just comes to the notion of actually being okay with those extra steps, but if you don't want the hassle, and maybe the other specs are not deal breakers, then good for you.

Great take! I'm sure some people will buy this, and more so once the price becomes a bit more competitive! But for me, the monitoring options on the Zoom make it far more flexible for multiple musicians! Plus, it has all the other functions mixed in, which adds even more flexibility! But I have little use for smaller mixers, so having more than one use poses a much better value proposition for me! But as you say, that may not be the same for everyone!

​@@GaryOnBassI agree. That's why, depending on my setup, I can opt for any of my mixers, or any combination of all my equipement for that matter. We'll just see how it goes for this. I can actually see myself using it, but also will not consider it as my only go-to for every scenario.

​@@josesedalopez9312 The Bluetooth on this also being bidirectional is great for live streaming events too, which is probably my deciding factor to invest in this; broadcasting the audio from my phone straight to UA-cam will be great for getting video to share with people that aren't in attendance.

Yeah, if it did that, then this mixer would make much more sense!

@ exactly! Us DJs need a battery powered mixer! 💪🏽😁

Thanks for watching! Yeah, I think this is an opinion many will take! The audio quality will indeed be higher in the Allen and Heath, mainly thanks fto that 96khz sample rate, but I dont think many people will see that be if it unless they are running a high end rig anyway! I still think it has a place if your running a much larger setup and have already bought into the Allen and Heath system, its definitely got its place. But if your starting from scratch its probably a harder sell as its sitting right at the same price as desks with faders from Yamaha, Behringer, Midas, Presonus, and even themselves with the QU series.

That true! They are fairly rare in high-end mixers, but the QU series used to have parallel 1/4” jacks, so it's a little odd they removed them. It does have a pair of stereo jacks, which is equally rare on high-end mixers, too, but not a massive help! I would always run a DI box rather than jacks straight to the mixer anyway.

If you want more low end nd your not running a sub then I would really recommend a 12” or 15” speaker. The DXR15 are surprisingly light and they are great sounding speakers! The DZR do get a bit heavy and expensive in comparison. I will say that I have blown three lower woofers in the DZR but I think the issue was actually with the limiter circuit, I had the first three in the country. So hopefully this wont be an issue with later models. I have used mine for around 300 gigs otherwise and still use them weekly.

@ Thanks. For a lot of the gigs I do I just need a very small pair of 10”s as it’s pretty low level music. If I went with either the DZR10 or DXR10 I would also look to add the DXS12 mk2 subs at a later date. I used to own the DXR15’s and totally agree they are excellent. I also used to own a pair of QSC KW181 subs but rarely used them. I’ve done large events with just a single pair of DXR15’s from a 320 seater amphitheater and a large cathedral and they have been extremely impressive!

@richardpenrose1968 yeah the DXRs are great speakers! The DZR10s definitely outperform the DXR10s by quite a way in terms of low end and volume and would make a great match for DXS12 subs too! But I just wouldn't expect masses of low end but more than the Altos for sure!

@ Thanks. When is the last time you had an issue with your DZR10’s? Have you used them by themselves since then?

@richardpenrose1968 First unit was dead not long after arrival, this was the oddest one as the speaker just entirely stopped, I have a feeling this was a loose connection but was replaced as with 30 days of buying. The second time was distortion in the lower driver, a year and a half in? The last time was last year (around this time), about two years into owning the unit with similar distortion and then stopping. Yamaha replaced all on warranty, I just had to pay postage to return! I run DJ music at the end of every gig at considerable volume on just the tops! I have also done a couple gigs without subs! 👍

Haha, I'm a musician, and Zoom is definitely the better choice. Even if you only consider the monitoring options, it stands a long way ahead of Mackie! It's wild to me how different the prices are in the States! But even if Zoom were more expensive, I would still lean in that direction!

This works great for mobile DJs

Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching! Yeah, I can agree with that! My perspective here is from the musician's perspective. As a musician on any sort of budget, it's now a much harder choice if you're starting out, with the Wing being so fully featured and the price gap so wide! But if you were looking at this from a production company perspective, the SQ series is a definite win! I still think the SQ5 is a better option for monitor engineers, and I would want to run an SQ6 or SQ7 on FOH at that sort of scale. If you're using the ME system, I get it, but then you're REALLY in the A&H system, and the SQ-Rack is as good as sold! Haha Don’t get me wrong, though. I think the A&H will be an extremely solid, great-sounding mixer that is also very easy to use!

Yeah I would imagine so as that is essentially an RCF 705 AS II which is what I use! You'll need to crossover at your desk though as I dont think there's an internal crossover there! It also has a split power amp so it isn't quite as powerful as the 705 so the DZR10s might outrun them a bit in terms of volume!

Both companies build their mixers in China. These two rack mixers were released within a month of each other with a split of about £800. They are the same price if you are considering the SB Rack and the Wing Compact. So yes, it is a fair comparison in this instance, and many people will be deciding between them. This is just my instinct based on what information I have and what I feel would best suit what I do! I know I am considering them both for my next buy, but even with all the above, its highly likely that I’ll stretch to the SQ5. I said as much in the video! Thanks for watching!

Yeah I did meantion that but maybe I wasn't too clear! The A&H built quality should be better than that of the Behringer but only time will tell on that front! I can see the screen being a bit of a week spot on the wing if you are moving it a lot!

What are the facts? The AH is made by VTech in China. Behringer is made in-house in the same factory where they make all Midas consoles. Behringer has 3 year warranty.

Yeah, that was what I was getting at in the video. They used to be made down the road from me in England, but sadly no longer! And for context, in the comment above, I was saying it SHOULD be better in terms of build quality for the price, but we will only know from both fronts once they have seen a few years of work! But Behringer doesn't deserve the bad rap it once had. Times have moved on a lot for that company, and its acquisitions have only strengthened it considerably.

Are you plugging the microphone directly in? The inputs are line level so that doesn't work. If you are using a desk then my guess is that the compression driver isn't working! These are really clear, articulate speakers so it shouldn't sound muffled!

Thank you Gary for your quick reply. Yes im plugin in the mic directly. I wil try it soon with a decent mic pre amp. Hope this will improve the sound quality.

No worries! You may be able to change the input to the mic level, but ideally, you should plug it into a desk before the speaker. Alternatively, you could try testing it with an Aux to dual mono cable and plugging it into a laptop or phone. I would probably test it soon so you can return it if needed!

Yes, but the zoom can run off of a battery power bank which is far more flexible and most likely costs less to replace than the Mackie power bank! Plus you can afford to have more than one as backup and still be cheaper than the Mackie.

Yeah, like I said, I think its pretty perfect for those already in the system! And I'm sure it will be a great mixer too! Sounds like it will fit in super well with your other mixers too! The Wing has a huge amount going for it, especially for those with tighter budgets and it feels like a big step up from the x series!

100% agree with your comments above.

Thanks for stopping by and watching! 🙂

Thanks for watching! This is mainly my gut feeling after looking at the specs and wondering if I would get one of these. As I'm sure you are aware, it has only just hit the market, so time will tell how it fairs in the real world! So maybe I'll change my mind if I revisit this! When I can get my hands on one, that is!

Yeah, you're not wrong! Double the sample rate is astonishing, but you would have to run an equally impressive rig to get the most out of this. Unless bands have invested similarly, the difference will be negligible over most of the PAs they commonly run.

To my understanding, the SQ series always runs its processing at 96khz internally. Stageboxes of the old series using the DSnake protocol however only have 48khz converters. The internal recorder can be switched to 16 channels at 96khz, or 32 channels at 48khz. With the big expensive Dante expansion card, you can transmit 64 channels of 96khz to any 96khz-enabled Dante destination.

@@nielsott I belive there are dedicated 96khz stage boxes available ... (dante)

Yeah, I think I'm in the same position! I love the mixer, but it's a pretty hard sell at that price point, especially with the Wing sitting at not far off half that price.

Oh yeah, I do not doubt this sounds better than the Behringer Wing! And if you already have Allen & Heath gear, it's a no-brainer! And if this was £1700 and the Wing £1200, I would grab the A&H without a thought! Like you, I am a big A&H fan, having grown up with them everywhere, but their move to production in China was a bit of a downer!

You'll get more low-end out of the 15” speaker for sure! But the DBR will be a much more reliable and better sounding speaker in my opinion! The DBR15 isn't a huge amount more if you can stretch to that but the DBR12 will do you forever!

@@GaryOnBass So ALTOs arent as reliable? Ive been looking at many reviews and they all say they are good speakers and the TS415 come for the same price as DBR12. Im really struggling to make a decision.

They can be, and that's kind of the problem! The quality control is a little too all over the place, which was fine when they were very cheap, but you can now get tried-and-true brands for the same money! So that would always be my pick, and that's why Alto didn't make my list! I hope that helps!

@@GaryOnBass That last comment definitely helped. Cheers!

@Sickoffence No Worries! Thanks for watching! 🙂

I would say that £250 is very cheap for a moulded set of IEMs compared to everything else on the market, and they are surprisingly good for that price! Weather they have been that price for a day or 20 years that doesn't really matter!

@GaryOnBass You think people don't know they already exist? Of course they do! Your content is copy-paste from videos already covered thousands of times. If your goal is to pollute the internet and the environment you're doing an amazing job but in terms of helping people with new solutions you're doing the worst job ever!

Haha, I may skip the meeting! I think my argument is that it is just an update of the Mackie ProFX10 and is a little overpriced! It has its uses, but for any of those use cases, I would point someone towards the Zoom L-8 and save them a good whack of cash in the process!

Do you mean foot controllers for lighting? I've only really used the Chauvet foot controllers before but the Eurolite DMX Big Foot looks like an interesting and full featured option for not a huge amount of money!

I really like to work with A&H desks because of the worklflow and the customization to my needs. I used my GLDs for my band jobs the last 12 years. But I'm sorry to bring it to you. The A&H desks (apart from RUFX) have the worst sounding reverbs from all brands I worked with, even the Yamaha LS9. The reverbs are still the ringing, metallic sounding ones from the Ilive from 2005. That's the reason I bought a M-Waves card to use external reverb plugins. BTW, you forgot to mention that you have to buy the deep pack when you want to be on par with the wing. Otherwise you don't have the 160, 1176, multiband compressor, dynamic eq etc. I don't know where you get the SQ Rack for 1700£ when it's listed for 2050£ (best price, otherwise 3000$). If you add the deep pack, then it's more or less 2700£. I wouldn't hesitate because of the production in China. Almost every digital desk from every brand is designed in Europe (mostly UK) or the US but produced in China. A&H is no exception.

@MrYuppiedu thanks for watching! I know everything is now made in China, but A&H were always made down the road from me growing up so its a real shame for me personally! Does it effect build quality? Probably not so much, but it really effected my local music community! They are £2k here, I was saying it would be more competitive at £1700. The deep effects are such an expensive addition, and I did miss that! Its a really good point as you can buy a second Wing for the price of the dpack plugins! Which is madness!

@@GaryOnBass I can understand your disappointment that a long-standing company from your neighborhood is moving production to China. At least the same people are still behind the design. I was actually always hoping for a mkII version of the GLD, because apart from 96kHz there are too many compromises with the SQ for me (especially at the price with the Deep Pack). And the Avantis and the DLive are unfortunately out of my budget. So I'm still looking for a successor for my beloved GLD, which is unfortunately slowly dying. I actually want to stay at A&H especially because of the workflow and the quick start from scratch for individual shows. I'm pretty sure that if A&H had released the SQ Rack at the current price with the other SQ models it would have been a success and become the top dog. But now they have come into the game a little late and have a direct competitor in terms of price and features with the wing rack.

@@GaryOnBass But at least we still have the QU-SB in our band rack for a while🙂

Yeah, to be fair, I always loved the QU Pac, and the SB is great, too! As I said in the video, if the price were slightly more competitive (£500-1000 less), people wouldn't even look at the Wing. But when you're talking about double the price, it's hard to justify that price difference unless you're a full-time engineer! This is unfortunate because I always felt the QU range was achievable for everyone! But lots of my engineer friends run the SQ so there's obviously still a place for it and I think the SQ-Rack will be no different in that regard!

Its great to hear from someone who has been able to listen to it! The price seems a lot more competitive over in the states too! I dont necessarily think this will be a bad speaker for playback/DJs I just dont think its ideal for bands! But I’ll happily be proven wrong with this as its great to see new innovation in this market!

​@@GaryOnBassThere's nothing new or innovative here. Just another column array with the QSC brand stamped on the front. The marketing department realizes if they make it, people will buy it. If your current system ain't broke, leave it alone!

@kellyaustin7487 I think there is probably something to this…

Yeah I overlooked that, the sub seems like it is a hybrid construction. I'm still not a massive fan of the ABS on top of the sub and top unit. I'm sure it is well made though, I know the RCF J8 is still solid and that's all ABS! The fan could definitely be an advantage in hot climates! But its just not an ideal speaker setup for me and I wouldn't hold much weight to SPL ratings from many manufacturers! Its vary easy to bend the truth with those readings!

That sounds like a great pair of systems for different size events! I have heard great things about the IG4T too! One of my friend has them with the matching DB Subs and he loves them!

I'd pick this, if it were between the EVOX8 it may have been a harder choice though! I think the “sub” is less boomy and tighter on the ES802/503 which really helps with definition when they are taking so much of the frequency range!

Is that what you use? I have had pretty bad experience with the LD Columns with bands, they lack separation for me!

Yes, use it and love it. I own maui28g3 and maui44g2. Both perfect for band and separation what issues do you have? I have done many many gigs and some large crowds zero issues

Interesting! I have only ever used the older models and always found it difficult to hear the individual instruments in the mix compared to my point source systems! Maybe its time to try the Maui again! I quite liked the look of the curve TS when that came out too!

I use LD and agree. Band perfect sound and plenty of juice and separation

I think they really need to do something about the harshness at high SPL because the k12.2 would be solid without that!

Thanks for watching! The kick is really tight and can be heard, but I don't think you get that “feeling” of kick if you know what I mean! I think you really need a 15” or 18” speaker to get that! But I very rarely feel like the bass is too overwhelming out of these speakers, which I have had in some tight spaces with traditional subs! I would use these in any venue I wouldn't want to take a sub into, and they beat most point source speakers in terms of overall breadth of sound! But even though I have multiple PA systems, I still think these would cover the majority of gigs, and they represent great value for money!

@GaryOnBass Sweet! Thanks for the comprehensive reply 🙏 Subbed 🙌

@SpiralDogs No Worries! Glad to help! Thanks for the sub! 🙂

I've got a video on my channel about my experience with the ES802 for full details! Generally, there's not as much presence/mids, but it's got a great homogenous sound. They sound great in specific spaces, but the point source is far more flexible! It depends on how you're going to use it and in what kind of spaces you're performing in! If space is an issue, they are a great option!

​@@GaryOnBass Thanks mate. That's useful to know. I'm looking to upgrade my set up for my cover band project, which is mainly pubs and with a drummer who is used to playing rock festivals and arenas. I still feel two tops and a sub may still be the best way. But I'll definitely check out your other video. Cheers 👍

@SpiralDogs no worries! I think for Pubs (especially smaller ones) they are a great shout! You'll get louder with point source but I doubt you'll need it! My drummer has an acrylic kit (which is loud) and it doesn't struggle! Guitar can get a little lost if not mixed properly though!

I just made a straight conversion as we can't see American prices but that does make them less viable! How much is the FBT Ventis system over there?

The Americans will love the QSC like the Evolve 50. Here in the UK we have much more sense. I’m looking at the Ventis the 2500 (15” sub 2006 top) or 3000 (15” + 10” tops) in white ( wedding DJ) OR the new rcf 905 / 114a in white. Although I can get the Ventis 3000 with case for 4K new and will wipe the floor with these QSC. You sound like me to be honest. Sensible and not fooled by hype. Also the QSC’s have fans in their subs….in 2025 wtf. lol. Heat sinks, not fans that break and get clogged up.🙌🏽

@ifonlyhowie Thanks for watching! I guess the fans make sense for hotter countries. I have had speakers with heat sinks overheat when left by bales (country event) or next to a heater (which was on in the summer for some reason!), so I get it. But as you say, it's also a weak point for water and dust! I don't think these towers are the one, but I understand why QSC made them! I think FBT/RCF have the small PA market cornered!

Defo. Guess there’s also the price. Seems the US get shafted in import with European goods same as we do with VAT on US products coming this way so they’ll pay more for FBT / RCF than we probably do. Great content btw 💪🏼

@DjCraighowarth Thank You! Glad you enjoyed it! It does seem that the skew is quite different in the States! I think if the QSC was hitting that £1000-1500 mark in the UK, it would be more competitive with the Evolve. I'm sure that will happen with time, though!

Haha, I agree with so much here, especially with how they measure everything! I think you're right that a KC15 to that spec would be a strong contender, but if the current pricing is anything to go by, then it would be way more than the FBT with a good 15” sub under it. I think I know which I would pick from those two options!

@@GaryOnBass If you want that white and column array wedding-DJ look..... then you must pay extra for the look😂I can live with black speakers, and love the versatility of tops+subs, I can do 2.1 setup, 2.2, 2.0 or even go out and rent 2 more subs and do 2.4 if it should be really bass-heavy. I can raise/lower/tilt the tops as I like. With column arrays you are "locked" to 1 or 2 speaker setup and thats that. So for now I stay away from column-arrays, but no one knows what the future bring, so I would never say never 🤣

@J-DJ there are massive pluses to point source, which is why it's my go to, but I have had great experience with column systems, too! You just have to be realistic that there are compromises with everything! The dispersion for column arrays is excellent, and they work so well in overly reverberant or small tight spaces without sounding too much, for example, but you're not going to be playing to large groups outside with them! They all have their uses, or that's what I tell myself when I buy another PA/Guitar/Bass 😂

@@GaryOnBass Yep its important to be able to justify every gear purchase 🤣 The wide dispersion is a plus. I was just watching your HK Premium Pro video, I had "Hughes & Kettner 15/3" cabinets way back. HK is not the hottest name in column-arrays even though you get their Polar 12 with 12" sub, 6x 3" mid and 1" high CD horn for half the price of the new QSC KC12. I have never heard the Polar12 but i doubt it is only half as good as the QSC.

@J-DJ it’s always important to justify a purchase in some way! Haha, the Polar 12 is actually a great comparison! I didn't think of that one at the moment! They are really good-sounding speakers for plastic boxes! The HK Elements are actually the best middle ground between Column and Point Source, too! You can expand the system and choose different sub combinations from case to case! Their only letdown is that it was a pricey system to get into! But solid wood and steel construction and the joining method is really robust and simple! I think they should have probably had a loss leader starter set that would have gotten more people picking them up!

Most likely it will sound great! But my gut instinct is that any of the other systems I mentioned will be as good or better for less money!

Unfortunately the evox 12 cost 3k 😢😢😢

@zukaDJ these are £2k EACH! £4k for a pair! That's £500 more than a pair of EVOX12 here!

Bro , evox 12 cost 3k each , So 2 will cost 6 k ,

Oooosh that is painful! What about the DB Technologies ES1002 or ES1203? I feel like the QSC will be fairly close to the EV Evolve or RCF J8, I think a FBT CS1000 would beat all three of those though!

Me too! I have a Pair of EV 18" subs I need to move on soon!

Oh, really? I thought they were the Behringer DR112DSP, but now you've said it, the power amp module does look a bit different! They're singing from the same hymn sheet regarding cab design, though! I just checked out your channel, and I remember seeing one of your videos a few years back about The Box speakers being made by another Chinese manufacturer. It wouldn't surprise me if they made the injection mould cases for Behringer! Similarly, I know Mackie had some relation to RCF for the SRM series! Great spot, though!

Yeah, I did clock that! Piezo have their place, but few and far between and probably not in these speakers! Haha That's the big bonus of buying new when you haven't got a huge amount of cash-you're covered for a bit! Thomann is great for that, too! Behringer isn't all bad now, and since the acquisition of Turbo Sound, I think they have put a bit more thought into their designs, too! They still probably won't hold up to more expensive options in terms of sound and volume, but no one should expect that, really!

@@GaryOnBass that’s true I’ve got a lot of Behringer gear and it’s all very decent. Especially the turbosound stuff, I know a few venues using the iq series speakers very reliably and I know they get thrashed but keep going and sound great

Yeah, for sure! They aren't anything like Turbosound, but they are arguably much more usable! I have a friend who runs a large IQ rig, and he has had little to no issues with any of it, and it is definitely LOUD! But you shouldn't expect less from three 15" tops and eight 18" subs! Haha

I totally agree with this! Although buying new affords a warranty which is always useful! I think you would have to search hard to get something decent for £175 a speaker, even second hand! And everyone needs to start somewhere! So I totally get why people consider these. But I wouldn't go for the subzero even if I could get a sub! I think a pair of DBR15s would do most better and get the sub when you have money to upgrade later! It was interesting to see how much money you end up spending though! Even specing out a set of speakers which are considered “cheap”!

Yeah, I totally agree! The DXR10s are crazy-sounding speakers for their size and price! However, I have had three lower woofers break now.

For a band, I think so! The RCF is still a great speaker though, and has a hifi like quality for playback! The MDF case on the HK Audio really helps the low end if you’re not using subs.

Yeah, easily! I have run these outdoors to 150 people with kick, vocals, backing tracks, guitar and bass with no backline and it was more than enough! Not extremely loud though! In doors and less than 100 people then I can't see it being an issue ever!

I think if weight wasn't an issue then I would most likely go for the HK Linear 5 range! They are great speakers, super reliable and sound great! The weight puts me off of them but I think that would be my number 1 choice in terms of sound quality and reliability! I think the DZRs are very close but I have had reliability issues with the drivers!

@ many thanks gary! Really appreciate it! HK Linear 5 12FA now in my cart 😅 Happy New year!

You really can't go wrong there! Happy new year to you too! 🙂

I think the CQ-18T is extremely intuitive to use, so if you want an easy system to control and just focus on playing then that is why I would go for. The lack of jack inputs really shouldn't be an issue, it's mostly for keys and auxiliary devices. However, it only has 6 auxes which may be a real problem with a 10 piece band. I have used a Wing before, not the rack version but I have owned an MR18. I imagine it will be fairly similar to control but with the better wing app. You will get used to using this and work your way around it, it will take some learning but I think you will probably thank yourself on the larger band gigs where you dont need to share auxs! You will however need to expand the wing to get those extra aux outs which will make it quite a cost quite a bit more! If the aux number isn't an issue I would still go with the Allen and Heath, providing it works for your applications! The CQ-20T does have more combo inputs and aux putputsif you prefer their app for mixing!