Moto Guzzi V7 III Basic Service Tutorial - Oil Change & Valve Adjustment
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2019
- Step by step basic service for your Moto Guzzi V7 III including oil change & valve adjustments by the experts at GuzziTech and GTMotoCycles.com
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A shop that makes money by servicing these bikes making a free video...for the back yard guys doing it themselves......classy man. Thank you for this. Very cool of you. Your site is now on my list.
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It is always a good thing to put a dab of an anti-seize paste on sparking plug threads, the steel to aluminium sometime seizes, this prevents this occurring.
@@craigauckram1087 Don't do that. Aluminium head, steel spark plug and copper grease plus high voltage electricity = electrolytic reaction. The head corrodes, and then the spark plug shoots out.
Do set the spark plug to the correct gap. They come out of the box at 0.90mm which is incorrect. Too large a gap and they misfire at high revs.
@@craigauckram1087 I've been using anti-sieze for 45 or 50 years. It's messy, so use sparingly!
Also, I always change the aluminum washer on the drain plug. And sometimes even use a torque wrench just for fun.
This has got to be the easiest bike to work on I've ever seen. This seals the deal, I'm getting a V7 Special.
Guzzi and BMW twins - Thank you! - you make it so easy
So useful to folks who are just getting started and building confidence on wrenching on their own bikes. I hope Piaggio knows that this is the sort of content that sells motorcycles.
I bought at 2019 last fall, and you're absolutely right, content like this made my buying decision much easier.
Knowing that it’s hard to find knowledgeable garages that services Guzzis and you guys teaching us step by step is just legend! Would work on my v9 while watching this!
Big thank you for helping bikers working on their guzzis. You are a top man.
you've got a new subscriber here.
You covered valve adjustment and an oil change in 15 minutes.
so many 15 minute tutorial videos include 10 minutes of waffle and 5 minutes of actual content, and half the time they don't know what they're doing!! lol
Thanks for this, Todd & team. Appreciate your passion for giving back to the Guzzi community with both parts and instructional videos like this. Y'all rock.
My 1975 Guzzi T3 was most reliable / best motorcycle I have owned & have owned a bunch ! Am glad you did the valve adjustment portion as I will not own a "shim-under bucket" ! I want to be able to completely service the bike myself. Thank You RH
I agree with James Haydon. This is the clearest instruction video for oil change and valve clearance check and adjustment for the V7 I've seen to date too! With little gems of experience scattered in! Kudos to GTM!
The most professional and instructive service I've seen to date, thanks guys and keep em coming.
I think this was not real professional on a few things.
@@Zimmermann310 Witch things ? Thx
@@felixaras1 Ask your mum.
@@Zimmermann310 ok childish.
@@felixaras1 Do you have one? Or it was just lik in many cases a child care?
Amazing video. Extremely useful, practical material, well photo’d and edited, and best of all, no droning on about peripheral crap, straight to the point. Thx!
Nice work Todd and crew, much appreciated. That oil wrench is on my list.
Excellent video. Other than the beautiful styling, the main reason I traded in my old Ninja 400 for a V7 Stone is the Guzzi's raw simplicity and ease of maintenance.
Thank you! This was exactly what I needed to complete my bike’s first service (and MY first-ever bike service). I was afraid there might be some weird tools necessary, but that is not the case (except that I’d HIGHLY recommend GT Moto’s oil cap tool!) All-in-all am easy process and I appreciate the added knowledge on my bike that comes from doing it myself.
Thank you for the great tutorial! GTM is such a benefit to MG riders!
I have been weighing several bikes and I think you just sold me on the Moto Guzzi. Very simply, this is something I can do.
I started driving air-cooled VWs. My first car was a '74 Thing (Type 181) and my first motorcycle was a Honga CL 90. I say this to point out that the level of wrenching I saw did not look unfamiliar in any way. I am hundreds of miles from any dealer, no matter the Make, and so self-maintenance will be a must.
The only other thing I would like to have seen, as I am told it is regular service, is clutch area cleaning and lubrication along with a shaft fluid change. In all, a great video.
Nice video Todd! Very informative. Thank you so much! Agreed on the below comment on the gear box and final drive oil change, would be super helpful.
Wow. The perpendicular design of the engine makes valve adjustment look like a breeze. Even more of a reason for me to one day own one of these machines.
It’s not perpendicular, it’s V, bmw it’s perpendicular, this is guzzi
It is total breeze.
@@CapitanTavish the shape of the engine doesnt matter. Its transverse, so the engine layout itself is perpendicular, the angle of the pistons means nothing
@@Thirty-OughtSick poor idiot
@@CapitanTavish BMW is horizontally opposed. There's no such thing as a "perpendicular" engine except in relation to the direction the bike travels, which is what he was saying. I sense the Dunning Kruger is strong in this one. 😂
Thanks for a good direct video on the job, almost 3000 km to go before I need to do this as there are no dealers within 100 Miles.
The way i adjust my 2016 Eldorado is leave the back wheel on the ground. Put the bike in neutral. On the front of the engine between the horns is a rubber plug. Remove plug and use a socket wrench to turn the engine from there. It works really great. My face is inches away from the valves. Not so when i turn the back wheel. Also, i use wooden skewers in the spark plug holes to monitor piston TDC.
Yes, big blocks make it easy for 30 years. Modern small blocks have an oil cooled alternator, so no easy access.
Fantastico! Thanks for the video, keep'm coming...
Thanks a lot for this. So informative and helpful.
dont even have MG but watched it glued.Love it
As a retired auto and motorcycle mechanic, it's so refreshing to me to see things being done WITHOUT every single drain plug and adjustment and fastener being cranked on and off with power tools. I was beginning to think maybe that was forbidden in UA-cam videos? When did Moto Guzzi V7s get oil filters that can be changed without dropping the oil pan? That was always one of the main things stopping me from buying one.
Barry, we still mostly hand wrench in our workshop. The small blocks have had this style filter forever. The big block Guzzis have had easy access spin on/off filters since 2006 to current. They are magical machines.
This was a great video! I have a 2016 VII stone. This will help a lot, thanks.
Hi Jesse, thinking in buying a V7 but reading some of the threads regarding to electronics reliability is affecting my decision. What's your experience? TIA Paulo
Yess! Thank you, more of this please!
I love these maintenance videos. It makes me consider buying one as o can then run it cheaply and properly. I hate money pits being working class on basic minimum wage
Thank you so much for the video posting! I'm looking into buying a Moto Guzzi for the 2023 season. THIS is one of the big reasons I'm interested because thy are still suitable for the home mechanic to keep serviced.
Nice! Excellent tutorial! Love how easy the v7 is to work on. 👌🏽
THANK YOU.
GREATLY APPRECIATED.
10/10.
WELL done.
Pure class, wearing a chronograph on leather when servicing.
The crystal must be a disaster.
Your best video evah!
Wish all bikes are this easy doing valve adjustment
great video thanks for posting
This was really helpful. Thank you! Could you do a video showing the gear box oil change and the transmission oil change? : )
Quick follow up: I just changed the gear box and shaft drive (transmission) oil on my V7iii last week. It was pretty easy. The service manual I found on-line helped a lot. This is my first bike with gear oil...man, that stuff smells funky when you drain it. (Like rotten eggs.) Make sure to wear gloves and do it outside if possible, my garage smelled for a few days. (On the V7iii the gear oil drains down on the exhaust cross bar that runs under the bike, due to the placement of the drain plug. I covered that it in tinfoil, which turned out to be a good idea. I didn't end up getting smelly gear oil all over the exhaust cross bar.)
Pleaae do !!
@@daveco1270 how often do you have to to that?
Vic's Garage the gear box and transmission (or rear shaft drive) oil don't have to be changed very often, much less than regular engine oil, but I don't have the exact numbers. I think mine was good for another 20k miles or so after changing it. I sold the bike so I can't check the manual for service intervals. You can find a manual on line and it will have the service intervals listed. I probably didn't need to change gear box and shaft drive oil but the previous owner said he had a friend do his initial break in service, so I wasn't sure what was done. I tend to over change my oils just to get safe. Now I only have one bike in my garage (an old Honda CB750) and it only has one type of oil to change.
Nice video. I see that dipstick measurement on guzzis is whole science :-) V7II has measurement done without dipstick tightened V7III with tightened. Maybe that is reason why V7III came overfilled from dealer's first service (oil all the way on cross-hatched area even on cold)
That was excellent, thank you! I have 45 miles on my Special......so I guess you can say I am a new owner, and this guide is just what I needed.
Excellent video my friend. It gave me the confidence to go ahead and try it myself. One question? Do you know how to reset the maintenance icon on the dash?
More videos like this please!
Very informative! Thanks!
Great video......thank you.
Thanks to Todd and the crew great simply explained video on service; would this service be very similar if performed on new version V7 850?
Awesome, thanks guys.
Now we need something like that for the Stelvio. 😎
Overall very well done. Like BMW airhead boxers valve service is super simple. Unlike newer tech OHC engines where it may take an hour just to get to the valve cover, then if adjustment is needed cams may need to be removed and shims replaced.
The oil change was straight forward, just wish they would use a spin-on filter. I would have started the engine briefly to allow oil to fill the new dry filter before the final level check.
Thanks, true. Several obvious steps we left out, like starting the engine prior to checking the final level. Some common sense applies. We didn’t post this to get critiqued, more to show those with less knowledge on what’s entailed. We always recommend someone knowledgeable or those somewhat versed in wrenching of course.
Great video. I enjoyed it heaps and I don't even own a Moto Guzzi, hah hah!
Thank you for this video my nearest Moto Guzzi shop is 400 miles away! Do you have a video on removing the front and rear wheels when I’m ready to change the tires?
Excellent Info! 🙂
Great video. I feel like I can do the next service myself.
How does the Guzzi dealer justify $400. For this? Is this unreasonable?]
@@robertparisi8016 all dealers, whether powersports or cars, overcharge for service. They're probably charging $30+ per quart of oil, so $60+, then $20-30 for the oil filter, throw in another $10 for two $0.50 crush washers and bill out 2 hours shop labor at $100/hr...there's your $400 service friend.
Thank you !!
Excellente explication, même si ce n'est pas en français,on comprend bien 👍👍👍
excellent thank you! I could do this if my garage was not 114 F...
That was great. The oil change I'm good. Not so sure about the valve adjustment. You find the highest point for the intake and set them?
Thank you for service video,just I have one question ,when you tight the oil bolt on how low you push on tool?how Nm for tight oil bolt,and oil filter? Thank you 👍
Thanks for the tutorial. For the valve adjustment portion of the video, would the process be the same for a 2014 V7 (North American spec)? Where can I find the stock valve gaps for the valves for the 2014 motor? Thanks James
Curious, why so accurate on setting TDC when adjusting valves? I thought on the compression stroke, both intake and exhaust valves are closed for many degrees (at least 30) before and after TDC. Thanks for the informative video. I like your easy manner when explaining.
The valves may be closed but the rockers are still moving, you want the point with max gap, ie TDC.
Great vid. I assume all this applies to a Norge as well? (Fairings removed of course :-)
Todd, do you recommend taking the timing cover off for V7II? I have a slight weep by the timing wire gasket that I'm not keen to tackle just yet (any advice?)
Are you also advising that the oil level should be at the "min" fill mark on the stick? That check be done fully threaded / cold?
I have had oil returned to the airbox (maybe about a cm or so of oil) usually indicating that i've overfilled. I've never had air filter issues because of it. Thought this would be okay as there is no return to the sump on the V7II. Thoughts?
Hello! I really liked your video. I have a question for you, is it possible to service MG without having a dealer, it's just that these are so unique and distinctive bikes that I just don't see an alternative to them? For more than a hundred years, bikes have been produced at the same factory, almost manually, who can "boast" about it now. Thanks!
good job😊
I hope you have time answer this. Do you recommend the same slightly-modified-from -the factory procedure for measuring oil level with the dipstick screwed in and only filling to the first mark for a 2016V7II?
I got my '22 back from its first service at EuroCycles Sonoma. It was leaking oil so bad I had to trailer it back. When I picked it up I noticed it was missing the front brake light switch. loaned to another bike. Riding home 15 miles later the R. side exhaust was falling off for lack of the mounting bolt...Removed to replace a faulty rear wheel
Use anti -seize on the plugs !
To set the valve clearance, can't you just turn the engine until the midpoint of closed valve by watching the rockers, instead of measuring TDC?
i'm saving this incase i have a guzzi sometimes 10 years later
Thank you. Good info, just make sure you say clearly the double zeros for dummies like me
What do you advise on the V9 Bobber as in the valves? And is it 2 quarts as well?
You were very precise about getting the piston at TDC on the compression stroke. I thought on newer engines the intake valve is already starting to open at TDC if not slightly before decreasing the valve tip to rocker gap. I'm not saying I'm right but I always adjusted valves about half way between BDC and TDC on the compression stroke when the cam lobe is on its lowest point for both intake and exhaust. Has something changed or am I just so old now I don't remember correctly.
I'm not sure I'm the best person to answer, but I have a v85 TT. I adjusted the valves using the method in the video (with proper lash values for the v85) and I ended up with valves that were definitely too loose/tappy, even when the motor was hottest.
I decided to readjust and I used the EOIC method this time. It's super simple and I don't have to worry about being exactly at top dead center. The valves seem just right to me now. The bike idles better with just the right amount of valve tapping.
I'm sure there's lots of videos explaining EOIC, but essentially it means you adjust the intake just as the exhaust valve starts to open, and you adjust the exhaust just as the intake starts to close.
Is this pretty much the same for a v7 ii? Was planning to do the oil for the first time soon but I could also have a look at the valves if it’s this simple.
Do you work on ducatis as well ? I would love to do this on my monster 821..
I'm a little confused about how you get the piston to TDC.
You have to rotate the rear wheel to get the intake valve all the way down, but then you also have to rotate the rear wheel to get the piston to rise. So wouldn't that mean you're changing the position of the intake valve as you're raising the piston to TDC?
Is there not an inspection cover on the motor with timing marks to line up?
Nice, thank you for the tutorial! Would that be the same valve spec (.005 and .007) on a 2018 as well?
Yes, take for sure.
Does anything need to be done differently for the V7 850? Also, can you access everything using a center stand instead of a lift?
Great video, thank you.
I am interested where you got the valve clearances from. You mention intake 0.005 and exhaust 0.007. The V7 III manual says 0.0039 (.10mm) and 0.0059 (.15mm)
Thanks/welcome. We run in between U.S. and Euro Spec - check the sticker on the rear fender under the seat for Euro spec.
I also think that the adjustment measure is not well taken.
In the specifications of the workshop manual it says exactly that for the intake they are 0.10mm (0.0039 inches) and for the exhaust 0.15mm (0.0059 inches).
There is no difference between the US and Europe because they use the same fuel with the same octane number. Another thing is the pollution standards and there if there may be differences in the exhaust line (lambda probe, catalytic converter and silencer).
wishing all motorcycles are as easy to service as the Guzzi
What feeler gauge do you use and why? Is there anything wrong with factory specs?
Note to self, filter spring points down.
Just a quick question: so, if I understand correctly, you only move te back wheel once to Top dead Center (TDC) as mentioned in the video point 3:36 minutes, then find TDC, now you don't touch the back wheel and check both intake and out take valve, and if needed, adjust. Is this correct?
I have just ordered a new V7 850 I guess the procedure is similar. I was interested in the how you adjust the valves, not complicated at all. Thanks.
Yes, the same procedure.
Do you not soak the oil filter in oil prior to fitting?
Would love to see a cylinder head gasket remove & replace .
Very well ✔ 👍
What engine oil, gearbox oil and shaft drive oil do you recommend please
Thank you
I already have a bunch of skate keys so no problem.
What would happen if you never did valve adjustment?
And how often do you need to do it ?
What motorcycle stand are you using??
very useful - except you missed the final shot of the fins as you bolted up the filter - I assume in line with the sump fins?
Yes, same as it comes off. ;)
Great video! How often are the valve adjustments done?
Appreciated. Guzzi recommends every 6k. We say 5k to keep the math simple.
Do you set valves with a cold engine (as per service manual)? You appear to have gone straight from draining oil, which is usually done warm, to setting the valves.
Jeff Slade - yes, to save time in the video, oil drained warm. Valves set overnight cold.
Hi, nice video. What's the reference of the UFI oil filter?
Pedro Alves - see our Forum at GuzziTech.com for more details.
Two questions I have with the modern 'small block' Guzzi engines (eg V7):
a) Do they have problems with the cam chain tensioner? (my 1983 850 Le Mans III had a fixed cam chain tensioner, thus requiring replacement at around 12 thousand miles)
b) Do they have issues with the clutch? (my 1983 850 Le Mans III developed wear in the clutch center hub, making the clutch plates not separating when the clutch lever was pulled in. Again this happened at around 12 thousand miles).
Jonathan L - these questions are well answered on our Forum; www.guzzitech.com/forums/forums/v7-v85-v9-chat-tech.215/ - we cannot answer these type of questions here. See you on the Forum.
Today I decided to go for the first ride this year. I also have 2017 V7 ( I did oil change mid riding season last year and probably done under 2000k after that. . .I have note done valve adjustmentat that time) I let the bike run 10-15 min. When I put it in gear and 2nd gear it started flashing warning ⚠️ signal and wouldn't go pass 30km/h. . .no other indicators came on. I have noticed the tire pressure seems a bit lower then normal, but that should have come up as a warning on a digital display. So I am perplexed to what that might be. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Q&A is only for our Forum; www.guzzitech.com/forums/ -- see you there. In short; Inflate your tires, check your Traction Control setting (see your owner's manual), and all will return to normal for you.
Wish my Dorsoduro 900 valve adjustment was this easy lol
Very easy do valve adjustment on this moto guzzi honda you need lift tank unplug all bunch of connector and sensor
Is this essentially the same for a 2013 V7 Special? (Also, thank you very much for the video!)
Yes, but recommended valve lash is .006/.008" IN/EX
Quick question - why set in 3rd gear? Is it specifically stated in the manual, or is it the most balanced/easiest to move the tire?
Easier to control the movement of the motor in higher gears with less wheel rotation.
There's a bit of an issue concerning valve clearances with the V7 III. The V7 III service manual says .004" and .006" but underneath the seat there is a sticker that says .006" and .008". I called many Moto Guzzi dealerships across the US today; 9 out of 13 say they reference the service manual. Then I spoke with the piaggio group customer care about this; They said the sticker is correct stating that the US and CA versions have an evap sensor to meet emissions and because of this the valve clearances should be set to .006" and .008". Then I proceeded to tell her about all the dealerships that refer to the service manual accessed through the piaggio group dealership portal. Even though my dealership does the .006" and .008", I told them to go .005" and .007" ...Split the difference just GT MotoCycles.
There's no right or wrong in either or in between. We favor Euro spec. Enjoy.
Great video, The manual is poorly written, Guzzi cheaped out when they wrote it. Also I had 3 dealers work on my V7 and they all overfilled the fluids on a cross county trip. I had gear oil coming out on my boot and motor oil in the breather.