I wanted to fix my cs2 performance but I didn’t want to learn it from no womanly guide. Thankfully I found this manly guide and now all my problems are gone. Thank you Philip, very cool!
@3kliksphilip I have a huge problem with my video settings. Every time I lower them, they do not save the return back to very high settings. It shows me recommended settings but every time I select them it doesn't save. It reverts back to high settings. I hate this game now and I just feel like deleting it now because the fps sucks. My specs are amd ryzen 5 radeon with 16 gb 3200mhz ram.
@@juliuskona3299make sure you restart the game manually after these changes,changes wont be saved if u exit the game by a crash or alt f4 also make sure u delete the back up files if the problem still presists watch guides on how to delete all old save files.
Pro-tip that most people don't know about: Keep Power Plan on Balanced. If Windows Game Mode is turned on, it'll automatically start running the game with High Performance power plan. This is also good because Windows Game Mode makes Ryzen CPUs perform better.
@@akirajkr That's not how that works and not what Game Mode does. What makes Ryzen CPUs perform better are the chipset drivers and updated AGESA bios. Plan being changed to High Performance would actually hurt Ryzen CPUs.
Im not sure why its so common for the most common sense useful advice to be left out of nearly all tutorials, literally never encountered this before! 1:39 This is super common in game development too, like the most industry standard ways of doing things are never explained and then you end up spending a week on a workaround when there's an common solution (that nobody ever feels the need to mention when talking about your exact problem)
it's kind of a no brainer if you assembled your pc yourself but true, I don't remember seeing any tutorial mentioning something as basic but as crucial as actually plugging into the correct device before
It is a no brainer because the dedicated gpu won't show up as the gpu being used in any game (it will list the integrated gpu), and your performance will be horrible
Hi Philip! I watched this video when it came out and specifically noticed the section about plugging your monitor into your gpu. This is something that, for me, resides in the tech support deadzone between "this is a very simple mistake someone could make" and "this is a very complicated thing someone wouldn't be able to solve" and, as such, I would never have considered it as a troubleshooting step for anyone who came to me with low framerates or other issues. I knew how to do it right and kinda assumed everyone else did, too. Less than 8 hours later, I was in a call with a friend (who does not and never has played CS) that was having computer issues. I noticed their 3080 was at 0% utilization, and remembered that step this video. I asked them to check... and their monitor was plugged into the wrong place. It didn't entirely fix their problems, but it certainly helped. Thank you for mentioning this in your video. I can attest to it helping at least one person.
A tip I found useful on laptops was to straight up take the battery out and run from the mains whenever you're using it. For me it helped my temps a lot as there was no longer a brick of heat at the back of my laptop, which in turn helps your performance as a laptop's main issue is throttling due to heat.
@@davitdavid7165 If you’re someone who actually uses it as a laptop then obvs not. It was meant more for ppl like me who use it as a glorified desk top and never have it unplugged.
@@davitdavid7165this is why I miss how old laptops were where a lot of the parts were replaceable from a dedicated compartment and could be swapped in 20 seconds
I was expecting a hyper-game-specific set of troubleshooting tips for CS2, but in reality this is actually just pretty good advice in general. For laptop gamers with Nvidia dGPUs, I'd also recommend going to the Nvidia control panel, then 'manage 3D settings', then in 'program settings', select the game you think may be using the iGPU, then select 'High-Performance Nvidia processor' in the preferred graphics processor drop-down menu.
@@Mart-E12that works too, But occasionally some games (like 2D platformers, or even text-based adventure games/VNs etc) might try to use the dGPU when the iGPU is more than adequate, and will usually make the laptop fans louder overall, so i don't mind manually changing it from time to time if the laptop chooses an inappropriate GPU.
@@Mart-E12 I think that the dGPU, even when under a negligible load, kicks up the fans a little from its idle 1500 to 2500 (its a dual fan laptop, one for the GPU and one for the CPU) as a precaution against overheating, so if I only use the iGPU, the dGPU doesn't even ran at an low speed, meaning only the CPU/iGPU fan will spin up.
Processor: Intel 80386 Memory: 192 KByte Display: Atari SM124 Computer CRT Monitor Monochrome Display Render: Hercules Graphics Card Home PC, Nicaragua Problem: DOS 3.1 has no actual graphics output and the monitor can't display color. Please help me what can I do. CS:Go had no problems at all
Just for posterity, fps_max 0 is a bad idea. It causes CS to try and load impossible frame rates and, at least for me and others I’ve read about, makes map load in times slower. It’s better to choose 999 or a normal value like 400-500.
This is actually seriously good advice for anyone in general, some even I wouldn't think to do aswell but thats just me not catching up on newer tech like G-Sync/Freesync. My brain still stuck in performance guides from 2013..
Philip you need to test this command "engine_low_latency_sleep_after_client_tick 1" it was added recently and its description is "When r_low_latency is enabled, this moves the low latency sleep on tick frames to happen after client simulation." it only works when reflex is enabled and apparently it increases 1% lows by alot. Would love to see you test it.
Take care of inside of your pc\laptop. Sometimes cleaning and changing thermal paste/pads is enough to make things better, but sometimes you have to buy a new cooler (especially if you have box one) or add/change fans, to make your case less like oven. Doesn't matter what thermal paste you buy, but how you put it makes a difference. And changing cpu can do wonders even with weaker cards. I switched from r3 1200 to r5 3600 with gtx 1050 and I still saw a huge difference in games and overall performance. SSD is another cheap and good upgrade, doesn't matter sata or m2, both will do wonders (m2 is better, but if you don't have one sata still do it's job).
I agree with everything but I think its worth mentioning, it doesn't matter what thermal paste you use but you should probably get non-conductive paste/pads, especially if you are a novice
1. It doesn't matter how you "put" thermal paste. X, dots, smiley face, whatever the fuck you want, as long as you put enough of it and not too little. Too much is better than too little, excess paste will just be squeezed out by the cooler as you install it. It will only make a mess, not hurt performance. Make sure the paste is not conductive, but most good cheap pastes like MX-4 and Noctua NT-H2 are just fine. 2. It's a bad idea to randomly start changing thermal paste and pads, especially in a laptop, you could make things worse without realizing. First, determine that the paste/pads are indeed the problem by seeing if you even have thermal issues in the first place, and if dusting doesn't fix it. I agree with the rest.
phillip looking out for us the people is hard as Fudge !!! thank you and good on your behalf of making shure cs2 gets the help it needs, a community that understands how to react to the changes andrealise what actions must be taken to make shure that we can all continue on with our questinable hobby
I would assume testing with bots is a bit better because it's closer to a real match regarding overall load. If you set up your performance while alone on a map, that performance will most likely drop once you enter a real match because of additional processing/computing that needs to happen because of other people in the match.
I found that uninstalling Counter Strike has had a greatly improved performance for my life. As to others, keep up the good fight, love watching flick shot compliations.
hey, 3klik, be sure your cat gets lots of water... I lost my little fella last month due to kidney complications. cats usually drink way less water than they should and end up having kidney complications at some point!
If you are interested, Windows has significantly more options for controlling performance outside the default settings you can view in the power plan settings. Often OEM will set these to improve battery life. There are things which change min/max frequency from everything from P and E cores, to throttling of the CPU instead of spinning fans up to save on battery. Some of these can easily boost performance, while others are really niche and probably wont do much. Big caveat should be made here as you could end up significantly reducing the amount of battery you have with a minor setting, or reducing the life of parts as they get stressed more frequently. Similar to how charging batteries to 100% is worse for long time performance of batteries than charging to 80%.
PCIE power saving was one of those things back in the day that had a pretty significant impact on performance for low end laptops. I'm not sure it works like that anymore but it's worth testing if you are trying to eke out a few more frames on a low end laptop.
@@asr1el942 THANK YOU. Don't get why the fuck people immediately jump to "CHANGE UR PASTE" when you haven't even checked temps yet and it could make things worse
You didn't mention Vulkan! Using Vulkan instead of DirectX 11 can lead to a significant performance improvement in some cases. Just start the game with the -vulkan launch option
yeah but the game will be more prone to crashes in same cases because its using a different rendering system than normal and can crash on specific hardware
Vulkan is great to have as an option, but at least for me Vulkan is quite a bit worse than DX11. Just wanted to say that people shouldn't expect great improvements, but it's worth trying out.
Game was actually unplayable with crazy stutters/freezes on my 6700k + rtx 2070 (only online tho, not offline with bots). Vulkan completely fixed that for me.
For people stuttering on modern AMD GPUs (5000, 6000, 7000), look up how to disable DXNAVI on DX11 titles. Gets rid of the issue of the shader cache being constantly deleted, which gets rid of the weird stutters and freezes. Of course, this involves editing your registry, so do so at your own risk
Sometimes fps limit is better because it prevents the render queue from building up, which in effect accomplishes the same thing as nividia boost+reflex.
@@noone-zl4rj key word CAN, this does not mean it WILL, an FPS cap guarantees that it won't build up also there is a chance that (for some reason) Valve does not have that enabled in DirectX
@@noone-zl4rj When the GPU load reaches 99%, it starts to build up in a queue, which is usually cleared within 2-3 frames, but it creates an input lag. The fps limiter prevents the input lag by not allowing the GPU load to max out. It became very popular about 4 years ago when battle(non)sense came out with it.
@@noone-zl4rj Modern GPUs support this at the game and driver level, so this remains a personal preference choice, but if your GPU is very old, this can be useful. In short, you're trading off fps for frame time.
@@zirize FPS limit has a caveat though. If the GPU isn't under enough load it will downclock / drop power states which creates input lag / inconsistant or floaty feeling. There are ways to lock the GPU to max clocks / power states however.
Not CS2 specifically, but in general I find it helps a lot to use overclocking tools to keep the graphics card (and memory) in a certain frequency range. Rather than just overclocking everything to the max, I get a much better experience when I down the max frequencies and up the low frequencies, such that it doesn't suck as much power and at the same time keeping the games smooth, because the frequencies don't drop much if the graphics card "thinks" there's nothing major going on in the game right now. I noticed this in GTA V first. As soon as I fixed the horrible lows despite having a powerful graphics card (RX 6950 XT) using the method described, nearly every single other game was fixed as well. So, instead of drawing around 300 watts when the GPU "thinks" it needs all the power it can get, and the next second lowering my FPS to around 20 because it "thinks" it doesn't need to do anything, I have a steady 80-90 FPS range in Cyberpunk 2077 now, all the while only drawing around 170 watts while playing (all settings maxed out + FSR Quality, no ray tracing). Oh and I use MSI Afterburner to accomplish this, the Radeon driver doesn't really save the frequency profiles as I wish it would. Hope this can help someone.
@@vinaygautamhome AMD's Adrenaline driver provides Metrics. You can configure them via the software and view them by pressing Ctrl+Shift+O. Don't know about Intel/Nvidia.
@@SanderSovrlic-alesov Open the Curve Editor, use the leftmost point to set the minimum, and the rightmost point to set the maximum. For my GPU I set minimum to around 1700-1800 MHz and maximum is around 2500 MHz or 2400 (default maximum minus around 300-400 MHz). Something like that. In the end it should draw a steady line which gradually grows from left to right. Also adjust the voltage if needed, e.g. games crash or black screen.
I have multiple friends who are experiencing varying degrees of stutter or lag when they scope in with awps and scouts. SGs are fine though. One has a slightly older intel/nvdia build and the other is a pretty new AMD build. Sorry I dont have exact specs will try and post in an edit later!
Unfortunately AMD has no "reflex / boost" type of option so you have to lock the clockspeed / power stages manually.. Ofcourse AMD stopped people from accessing MorePowerTool so you have to do it in a janky way in the driver. AMD cards were particularly bad on CS:GO because of the power states / constant downclocking.
Same, ryzen 3600 and 3070. My friends got the same issue on decent builds too. Idk what is taking them so long considering the release date was announced to be in "summer" :^)
Don’t worry to much I have a 3070ti intel 13700 or sum same problem it’s probably the game. I mean I run cyberpunk with no problems even rtx runs better than scoping. 💀💀💀
so far i only heard of issues with nvidia/intel systems. Would love to see or know those specs. either the older amd/nvidia build with a gtx 1060 and 3900x of my brother, or mine amd/amd build with rx 5700xt/rx6750xt and r7 5700x are running the game smooth af. ( both him and me have round about 250-300 fps while he has much lower settings then me ) with exception for a few days will the big limited test rollout where i had pretty wierd lags, after gamestart on any map, what i would relate to shader building, if this game with its pretty old dx11 implementation would have such thing. since a few days these are gone for me.
If you are playing on a laptop, using a program like Throttlestop to halt your CPUs turboboost from thermal throttling your laptop might make the game feel smoother too. Some laptops share a copper heatsink from the GPU and CPU, so one getting hot impacts the others max performance. Using this program I brought down my max turbo ratio by .5 GHz and it feels so much better and my laptop doesn't get as worryingly hot. The fps remained similar but it did feel smoother, altough I admit that this all may be all in my mind.
@@meuhtalgear Most 11th gen+ Intel cpus in laptops are now locked and cannot be tuned, unless you unlock them via a bios edit, which is just too much fuss for regular people. On AMD you can disable boosting entirely in windows power settings and drop temps down by a lot, ~10c on my 5800H depending on use case. Also, if you have a dedicated gpu in your laptop you should look in to undervolting, it's free performance and lower temps. While having lower temps is better, I strongly doubt that CS2 is pushing any laptop that much where temperatures are the limiting performance factor.
@@3rd.world.eliteAJconfirmed on Intel 12th mobile. All 12th mobile non HX have locked setting no undervolt no overclock no matter brand model. It very dumb, if they don't want us to get more "performance" just lock overclock and let us undervolt and underclock. And it very complicated when you try to tell the customer that you have been shafted when you buy a i9 12950H and there is nothing you can do but sitting in desktop at 60-70C and 80-95C in a game that use 2 core. And all core clocks at 3.5 P core. Since they buy those laptop expecting those running cooler and higher clocks. I won't buy anymore Intel laptop at this point, and will not recommend it too anyone.
@@3rd.world.eliteAJsince you have 5800h you can do pbo2 and per core optimizing (automatically in Ryzen master) it help both performance and temp. Or you can just do traditional underclock with undervolt so you can still have higher clocks than turbo disable.
Also Ryzen controller let's you set how much power processor draws with and without boosts. It was lifesaver for me, because for whatever ridiculous reason Lenovo decided to run my processor at 35w while amd specs say it should be between 10 to 25w max. At the cost of 10% fps in most games throttling is gone, when I set it up on 20w.
1. For laptop users, try and prop up your laptop for better airflow 2. Of course, if you have single channel ram, consider if you can add another stick of ram to use dual channel. 3. Repasting your gpu and cpu could help. 4. Verify your fan curves 5. Try to undervolt your gpu (msi afterburner), to lower thermal load. 6. Should have been (2.), clean dust buildup on vents, heatsinks, and anywhere else. 7. Lower Room temp helps reduce pc's temp, dont get too cosey. HTH
Or for better cooling a laptop, improvise. As a poor student I used post it blocks to make the laptop stand a bit higher. Had better cooling like that.
Simple desk fan pointed at laptop can do crazy things. Like the one you use on hot day to cool yourself, just point it at the laptop, and it will never overheat again.
a new CPU will help immensely (GPU could use an upgrade too but I have used a 1070 with a newer CPU, Ryzen 5600, at 1080p and gotten very good framerates at high settings)
I changed my i7 4790k for an i5 13600k and the performance gain is cs (and other online games) was huge. And thats using the same gpu still (gtx 1070). Although im looking to upgrade that too
When I first ran CS2 I was getting 100% GPU usage on my 3060 with terrible stuttering. I later found out my refresh rate had reset to 60hz but I was trying to force 240hz using ingame settings. Took me 3 years of owning my monitor to learn the refresh rate resets when you unplug the DP cable.
The only big counter advice that I can post is that getting the graphics driver from Nvidia or AMD on a laptop can be problematic. I installed Nvidia drivers for my legion 5 pro and it completely bricked the display adapter. I had to reinstall Windows to get it back working and then go get the manufacturer specific drivers. (In this case, Lenovo.) Just check first if the manufacturer has updated drivers for your machine if you're on a laptop before you go tinkering with the branded display drivers. Thank you Philip for being a landmark of positive content in this community.
Thank you, this really helped. I had vsync activated in my nvidia settings, while thinking that it is off (because of the game settings). I went from 30-59 fps to 5x-1xx with my mobile Nvidia GTX 1060, on actually reasonably high graphic settings even. This is on my now 8 year old MSI GS VR 6RE Phantom Pro. (The scaling-up of a lower resolution doesn't work at all for me though)
Here's a recommendation, although obviously not for everyone: Try to use a different OS. If you're on WIn11, go to 10. If you're on 10, maybe consider switching to Linux? If you're limited by how powerful your parts are, you'll need to optimize in other ways. Windows by itself is pretty heavy compared to other OSes, you can probably reclaim some power that way.
Resetting the os is probably best. it should honest-to-god be good practice to back up all the important stuff, then totally wipe your pc every year or so. 99% of computer problems are software 😭😭
Ah yes yet another furry spewing Linux propaganda. Guess what, it doesn't matter. Windows 11's shit runs on half an Alder Lake e-core. If you're having SO much trouble running a game that nothing fixes it - an OS switch might not even fix it. And even if it does, it could be very fucking situational just like Minecraft, yet everything else runs the same, or worse, and on top of that, you have to fiddle with all sorts of compatibility issues because most other games won't work, which I'm sure your friends would happily and patiently wait for you to fix as they want to start a match but you can't join because you're running Loonix. My point is? Nothing fixes it, then upgrade your fucking PC, don't bother with OSes. Only way to get ANY results. Don't waste time trying to optimize shit in software. I learned this the hard way.
@@makiacs No, no it's not. Unless you are reckless, install all sorts of shit, tweak every setting possible, follow dumbshit 'optimization guides' on Windows... then yes, reset your shit every year because you'll have to from all the damage you caused. I don't do things like that with my OS, I simply install it, tweak some personal usage settings like mouse speed and leave it at that. Haven't had to reset or reinstall for years bar for complete motherboard upgrades. Performance is top notch. Man, reading the comments in this video reminds me just why I quit the tech community entirely. So much misinformation that people eat up without a second thought. So many entitled fanboys. It's tiring
@@makiacs Honestly, reinstalls don't really do much more than clean up your system. The underlying OS is still incredibly heavy- way more than it should be. If you're already gaming on a potato, the overhead of Windows is gonna be a killer. I'd recommend SteamOS if you just want to game, but some other good alternatives could be Linux Mint and Debian. KDE desktop environment is the closest to windows (and imo the most well-rounded UX), and can be installed on any distro.
@@crylune im sorry man, i didnt expect that reaction. sorry if i worded it odd or something i didnt mean to come across as assertive or anything! i dont need to reset my pc every year but i do purely because of the stuff i need to use on it and all the different uses i have for it. there's a lot of software i use and over time they very much build up. im not sure what you're using your pc for, i have been helping people fix their desktop problems or a little around 6 years now and it literally almost boils down to their pc just being old. if you use your pc daily and actually do use it, shit will build up. your pc WILL run slower unless you clean it pretty well and in a lot of cases the issue isnt very pinpointable whatsoever. there are some great software options that automatically clean your pc of stuff you dont need and junk that builds up, though. those programs work very well! my 'reckless' behaviour gets me 2% cpu idle and 0% gpu idle. it should absolutely be common practice to have everything backed up, so its not that hard to reset your pc every once in a while if you want to. every tech dude in the world should agree with me here. dozens if not hundreds of times have people came up to me and asked for help with an issue they're having and i check their task manager and their cpu is sitting at 75% idle because they have a bazillion background apps that accumulate i reset my system a little over 2 months ago and i already have over 104 installed programs. shit will build up no matter what you do and its pretty unavoidable also, if all the settings you tweak is your mouse sens and other 'personal usage settings' you're either lying or barely use your computer whatsoever. either way that's bullshit lol
Processor: AMD Ryzen 3 2200G Memory: 16 GB Dual-Channel (1064MHz Display: ATI Radeon RX 480 MOBO: ASRock A320M-HDV (AM4) PC - Canada Game runs not terrible, but will freeze randomly and will have to end process through Task Manager.
Processor: 7th gen Intel i7-7700K Memory: 32gb DDR4 Display: 1080p Render: Nvidia GTX 1070 Desktop PC. Europe. Problem: Too old to brag about it being a gaming PC. Game runs fine.
@@MontySlython Can you explain what you mean by that? I can see how FSR might slightly increase input lag due to the additional upscaling step (though I question if most people can even tell the difference) however I'm unsure what you mean by "consistency".
@@electricindigoball1244 the visuals of fsr in my experience for some reason look inconsistent and can lead to inconsistent gameplay in a game like cs, makes it harder to build up muscle memory probably
@@asr1el942 obviously fsr would be better in such a case but most people play stretched res and don't have to resort to such a low res even for cs2. For them fsr would likely be a bad idea
Edit: I understand upgrading the GPU is the best option, I really wanted to know if its possible to mess with rendering in some way to let the ancient GPU handle it better perhaps? Something like LOD bias, etc ? CPU: R7 2700x GPU: GT630 Fermi version RAM: 16GB 2400MHz Problem: Very low frames when anything visual happens, especially when the awp ever shoots it drops from 60-100+ to
Your GPU is extremely old and slow, it's definitely time for an upgrade. Something like an RX 580 8GB or even 4GB would do well for cheap if your power supply can handle the extra draw and also has the necessary PCIe Power connectors
This is a hard one. You've got an ancient low budget GPU. If you are not willing to upgrade the GPU, maybe someone is willing to trade his 2400G or 3400G for your CPU. The Vega graphics on theese CPUs should be 3x better.
My Desktop thats running CS2 at a stable 230fps (unless at Ancient T spawn). No problems to speak of here, just wanted to share my build as reference for others. CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X GPU: GeForce 3060 RAM: 32GB @ 3600MHz Aspect ratio: 16:10 Resolution: 1680x1050 Graphics settings: All maxed out, Nvidia reflex turned off, no vsync.
@@z0xy4 graphics on max because i like my game to look pretty + shadows give you a big advantage in CS2. Nvidia reflex does something, idk, but i know that it massively reduces fps for whatever reason so i turn it off. Why that resolution? Thats the max resolution when using 16:10 aspect ratio. Kinda of like 1920x1080 is for 16:9 native aspect ratio.
@@zennr_ you are playing the wrong game bud, if you are playing cs for it to look good you are playing the wrong game, you should put everything on the lowest possible settings to maximze your fps your res is bad, that res is played by no one, try playing 4:3 i play on 1024x768 4XAA nvidia reflex should not lower your fps it should minimaxe the inut lag, look it up i think there is something worng with your GPU or drivers if that is the case you are having. Im not saying you should not enjoy the game how you like but for me it just pisses me off cuz i cant afford a good gpu and you having 3060 shows you have money to spend it makes me mad cuz i cant play the game someone who is good at one(to some degree) but you, who is just a dumb ass casual player( again sorry for the hate but it does piss me off) you can affrod a good cpu and gpu and you still decide not to use it to be good at the game. it really does pises me off, and yes that kid in me who always wanted to have a good pc so he can be good is still acing for one.
guys ! launch options type ( -threads "your cores" minus 1 ) so im my case i have 14 cores (i5 13600kf) then i type -threads 13 unlocks full potential of fps and 1%lows. which is the most important. im sure it will help many of you.
even using a desktop i7-3770, 8GB(2x4) RAM 1600Mhz and a GTX 1050ti, my game runs pretty well (120fps on average). Yes, everything is on low and i have a 720p monitor but for me is enough to not complain about performance
@@3kliksphilip It's a GPU limiter scenario for sure, i made the FSR test on the video. One odd thing is: if i introduce bots on the server this makes little to no diference on FPS, seems more like a bug since both GPU and CPU usage are lower with bots on the server. I've noticed too a degradation on performance on training maps (the same happens on all 3 maps i have installed) i start the map with 400fps+ and after a time killing bots the FPS will steadly drop little by little to 100~150. The game is on beta after all.
I've got a Ryzen 5 5600 RTX 3070 2x8 Gb DDR4 3200MhZ ram and sometimes rarely but still the game just starts lagging out of nowhere i shoot a bullet it stutters, I get killed it stutters, an enemy walks closer to me in game it stutter. As of now i've found no solutions to these problems would love for a fix or anything
do you have an ssd or are you using an hdd? getting an ssd fixed all of the stuttering issues in cs for me. it used to be extremely annoying and get me killed all the time, because when either i or someone else was shooting at me, the game would sometimes freeze for 1-2 seconds.
Well, it’s not your components slowing you down. At least not the processor, gpu or memory. You could try reinstalling on an ssd if you you’re using an hdd right now. Did you monitor your temps? Maybe somethings off with the cooling. Updated all the drivers? Plugged in the graphics card correctly? Maybe something’s running in the background, have you been looking into task manager while gaming?
@@Nyahnator interesting you metioned temps, i have the 5600x and its a very hot processor if youre using the stock cooler and pbo enabled on bios(its on by default), i got around 80-90 degress c on pubg, the performance didnt seem to be worse but its definitely smth to keep an eye on, i turnes it off and also didnt change much of the performance but the temps dropped down to like 65 or so
Especially so if you're using an integrated gpu, the performance difference can be quite substantial just by upgrading from single to dual channel ram.
@@keppycs That's not entirely true. You still get an improvement to memory bandwidth by running two DDR5 memory modules instead of one. It's also worth keeping in mind that 8GB DDR5 DIMMs perform worse than 16GB DIMMs due to having less bank groups so for a DDR5 system you ideally want at least a 2x16GB kit.
I had performance issues in my first proper match and when testing bots. Without changing settings, it's been smooth after that. I'm incredibly impressed with CS2's performance, personally. It feels weird, though. I almost always used to have a lower end PC and would constantly whine about performance. I'm not sure how I feel about losing that perspective.
CPU: Intel i7 8750H GPU: GTX 2070 Max Q 32GB RAM Laptop : MSI GS75 Stealth 8SF Problem: Just a general lack of fps when playing, bit of a global issue with other games but CS2 being slow is extremely annoying considering i relied on higher frames in CSGO and not having that is making it very difficult
Do you have an external monitor? Sometimes the laptop uses the integrated graphics for display, which can result in lower FPS, but if, like my old laptop, the hdmi exit is not for the GPU it might change nothing, I recommend you call a friend to try their monitor and test if it helps
Considerung that the GPU seems to be fine, it might actually be a CPU problem (6/12 with a base clock of 2.5GHz and max turbo of 4.1 @ 45/35Watts). Have you checked if there are any power restricting options enabled? have plugged in your laptop into the powergrid? Maybe the laptop fan is blocked by something?
I used to have a 13900K with a RTX 4090, on the low-ish settings I could get 400-500 FPS on all the maps in deathmatch, very silky smooth. But my 13900K recently fried itself and I am on a backup i5 12400F and my FPS is basically sh!te now at 80-200 FPS but mostly hovering around ~150, this feels slightly stuttery on my 240Hz monitor even with G-Sync off, so I can understand how rough it is for the majority of people on low or medium spec machines. CSGO didn't have this issue for me, only CS2.
try to disable HT (HyperThreading) cores, those can hurt performance and latency. I suggest googling for "Processor idle demote threshold" and how to enable and change it to 100% with Processor Power Management Optimization. Sounds like common microstutter (DPC Latency) issues. No easy way around it but digging down the rabbithole of hidden Windows Powerplan Settings. you can try to play with the affinity's in task manager and keep in mind that CPU0 and CPU1 are mostly used to handle drivers/kernel and background tasks.
@@hazzmatiI believe him it is that bad, I have i3 12100f that is a little bit worse than i5-12400f and same issue than him. I had stable 400fps in csgo with any settings in 2k, now fullhd and 120-200fps. Gpu is 3060ti
Been having a few stuttering issues, as well as frequent crashes, even though the game runs at around 90-120 fps. I've heard people tell me I need more RAM and a new CPU. Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Memory: 8GB RAM Graphics card: Nvidia RTX 2060 with 6GB VRAM Display: AOC G2460V 1920x1080 @ 75hz
Get 16gb ram and upgrade to i7 4790k but update your motherboard bios first just in case and also research your motherboard Btw if your ram speed is 1333mhz get 1600mhz ram but dont mix and match
My laptop is very bad and it used to stutter and crash alot in CS2 but running the game on windowed mode got rid of the stutters and crashes while decreasing fps by about 10. I don't the reason why this happens but I'm fine with getting less frames for a more consistent experience.
Ya I’ve been getting stutters that last well into a few games of comp even after playing through some DM games to make it stop. And then also crash a bunch so I reeeeeally hope they fix it. I’ve got mid-high end last gen parts this shouldn’t be an issue. Not low performance and not on the bleeding edge so idk.
The problem is the water animation for most lags at start of the round the grenades can be a bit much. My laptop can handle cs2 very well but I had to restart my PC because I got locked at 60fps. I have around constant 200fps but oh boy let's play ancient and let the t start running.
@@GardenofEdens same the water animation should be optional as it doest really enchance gameplay that much and disabling it wouldnt grant much advantage besides the extra fps
8:25 I personally use this in a couple games (especially Minecraft) Limiting FPS to something slightly above the Monitor Refreshrate prevents your PC from rendering frames you wouldn't see anyways, and leaves more processing power for actually rendering the stuff around you (i.e. chunks in minecraft). I am sad about every game that doesnt offer me a 65 Fps setting
You can always limit your fps with external tools so even if a game doesnt offer the option, check your GPU of choice software for a frame limiter or download one.
Having FPS higher than your refresh rate makes a huge difference in response time and smoothness of the game. I have a 144hz monitor but I always aim for 200+ fps in games for these reasons
@@LiamBanfield well yes it does, but thats for like competetive games like cs or idk what do kids play nowadays. But most games feel totally fine with 60Hz and fps limited to little above
@@LiamBanfield i dont hard disagree. but in most titles it doesnt matter. Multiple reasons: - Game doesnt even consider some of the stuff thats happening on your screen (low tickrate games, where stuff between the ticks is just fancy colors on your screen) - Competitive games where reaction time matters. For this one, ping, input delay, and the human reaction time, make me not care about the 5-10ms diffrence of doubling my fps. (just cuz i then got to see 1 frame earlier, that an awp was staring into my soul) - for my final and favorite reason; some games actually care about the client info rather than server. in THAT case, any fps over your refreshrate matters. easiest example i can think of personally: Bhop in counter strike 1.6 (unless prevented per plugin) allowed for much more acceleration gain, if fps were in the hundreds. making people with 1000fps faster than those on 100fps. (Which is why most servers enforce 100fps limit) Just a couple extra reasons why it rarely matters. I dont mean to rain on anyone's parade, but my personal take is: If you think those couple miliseconds are what save you from dying, then thats cope. Positioning, proper crosshair placement, proper movement, or tactical thinking are much more the diffrence maker in modern competitive settings. that one extra frame wont change your fate
My desktop PC is handling CS2 very well, but my laptop is rubbish, and even though CS2 runs, it works at like 20-30 FPS maximum on the lowest possible settings. But if anyone wants to cook, here you are: Processor: Ryzen 5 3500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx (8 CPUs) Memory: 8192MB RAM Display: AMD Radeon (TM) Vega 8 Graphics Render: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Laptop Insufficient performance
It will decrease the smoothness, but improve input lag if you're cpu limited. Weather or not the trade off is worth it likely depends on how high your framerate is to begin with.
Low VRAM and GPU bandwidth bottleneck. The 6500 is too powerful for only 4GB of VRAM and PCIe gen 3 x 4 is too slow for it as well. I would first upgrade to a PCIe Gen 4-compatible CPU and motherboard. I’d recommend a Ryzen 5 5600, with a B550 motherboard.
Desktop PC CPU: Ryzen 5 5600 GPU: MSI NVIDIA RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X OC 12GB RAM: 16GB DDR4 RAM - 2x XPG D10 8GB 3200Mhz MONITOR: AOC Hero 24G2 24" @ 144Hz Problem: Even in moments having 400+ FPS the games feels like i'm running at 60Hz, but when the V-SYNC in game is turned on the game runs kinda more smoothly and seems more real how is supposed to be at 144Hz like CSGO but with alot input lag.
CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X GPU: RX 580 Memory: 16GB RAM Problem: Significant performance drop occurs when there are more than two smokes in CS2. I believe my FPS should be higher; it was consistently at 400 - 500 on Linux. I get 180 - 250 ~in CS2, around smokes it drops to less than 80
@@3kliksphilipwould have been a good idea to add the display / game resolution to the info template. So we‘d know if someone is playing on 1080p or 4k for example.
Processor: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz (16 logical processors) Memory: 16.0 GB 3200 MHz GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU Problem: can't quite get a consistent 144 fps. For the most part my fps is over 130, but I get a few dips. Lowering the graphics doesn't help, lowering the resolution doesn't seem to help much, closing background programs only helps a little. Any ideas for a 10-20ish fps boost?
While I'm no expert on CPUs, 2.3 GHz is quite low, so I suspect you're being CPU throttled. You can try to keep task manager open next to the game to see if CPU and/or GPU usage is hitting 100% (GPU should be unless limited)
Try looking for a software of your laptop, my lenovo comes with one and there I can change between silent, normal or turbo (Fn + Q does it as well for me) it changes the CPU TDP and boost behaviour, the R7 6800H does 3ghz in silent, and almost 5ghz is turbo, GPU also gets way more power therefore more FPS. TLDR: Check for laptop software to change power profile.
Check your temps, clock speeds and usage percentage on both gpu and cpu during gameplay and at both high and low settings. See if you find anything odd there, for example very high temps (85°+), low clock speeds, or low usage percentage (especially on the gpu)
I have a 8-9 year old laptop with a gtx 960m & core i7-6700hq. The temps are what holding my laptop's performance back by a lot (85-90 degrees on CPU), but I recently added another 8gb stick of RAM to make my laptop run in dual channel. It helps a lot more to the performance than trying to fix that damned overheating CPU & GPU (from 50 avg to about 80-90)
Nvidia reflex makes the frametimes less smooth, and can cause bad stuttering with the boost setting. I would advise only using the enabled setting, and only if you dont get motion sick easily.
Vsync is good when paired with Gsync and fps cap 3 below refresh rate. In these cases it actually lowers the input lag. There are plenty of videos backing this up. I recommend cap in the game and if not possible in there or the games config files do so in the nvidia control panel.
I litterally have the same problem, let me elaborate: Laptop: Dell vostro 3530 CPU: i7 1355U GPU: Nvidia MX550 RAM: 24 GB Monitor: Build in screen 120Hz Problems: - The PC is limiting it self to keep cool (max temp is 61°C for CPU and GPU) --> 5 to 8 FPS max :/ - Sometimes it goes up to 90FPS for a while --> fans are doing great job and I dont really mind that. But just till the temp hits the 86°C. - Then, it goes down again to 8 FPS. Solutions I tried: - Go to DELL setting and make what you did: Ultra performance thermal management + Primarly AC charging mode. but still the same :/
Important addition to the graphics card part: they may have the same model number but laptop GPUs are not the same as desktop GPUs! For example THe AMD Radeon 6800 is not the 6800M! Do not confuse it, it confuses you. I know, it's confusing.
Luckily 6800m is a pretty good laptop gpu. However trying to find nvidia laptop specs is insane, I have a laptop with a 4060. And when you look up laptop 4060 benchmarks you either get someone with a docking station or 4070 laptop benchmarks
You left out a very crucial advice. Delete the DirectX Shader Cache with Disk Cleanup and delete the directx_installer in the game folder! That's a rather new performance tip, as cs:go wasn't affected by it. Don't forget to verify game files afterwards and maby restart the PC after cache cleaning.
That doesn't make sense unless shader caching in your GPU drivers is abnormally broken. Also, shader cache will get invalid after the next update anyway. Removing directx_installer will only skip DirectX 9 installer (CS2 uses DX11, and GPU drivers itself provide DX11 implementation), which is kinda useless for newer Windows OSes since they ship all the needed libraries.
High end PC: AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d Nvidia RTX 4070ti 32GB DRR5 CL 30 ram Disabling Nvidia low latency in game and in Nvidia Control panel it made playing cs2 much smoother, went from bottom fragger to top 2 in most matches. When I have first time used ROG Swift PG27AQN 360hz monitor I went for competitive match and I was playing worse then I was playing on laptop with 150 fps. After messing around with monitor settings I found out that having Nvidia ULMB2 Off, OD setting set to normal and set GameVisual to Racing mode made cs2 more responsive. In Nvidia Control panel I have disabled most of settings, but only settings that I changed are preferred refresh rate set to maximum performance and vertical synchronization set to Fast. Also Nvidia G-Sync is set ON it makes game more smoother without delaying mouse movement and FPS cap set to 330 fps. CS2 Video settings: 1920x1440, Player boost contrast: On, V-Sync: OFF, MultiSampling Aliasing mode: 4x MSAA, Global Shadow Quality: Very High, Model/Texture Detail: High, Texture filtering mode: Anisotropic 4x, Shader Detail: Low, Particle Detail: Low, Ambient Occlusioin: Disabled, High Dynamic Rage: Quality, FFX Super Resolution: Disabled, Nvidia reflex low latency Off. Anyone else figured out best settings for cs2 on High performance PC?
Recently valve had updates with stability and performance improvements and my game is finally stable 😪had to deal with big FPS drops and a lot of instability with the FPS for a while, but it's much better now.
Laptop Specs: Processor : Ryzen 5 4600H Memory : 8GB GPU : GTX 1650Ti Laptop : HP Pavilion Gaming Problem : never getting more than 70 - 80 fps, sometimes below 60, when I had over 120 fps in csgo
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core Processor (16CPUs), ~4.2GHz Memory: 32768MB RAM Display: I didn't see a display tab in dxdiag Render: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB Self-built PC in Sweden Problem: I am having VERY bad stuttering and freezing in cs2, I am constantly non stop stuttering and rubber banding and sometimes it even completely freezes for 2 seconds. I've searched the internet and found about clearing the DirectX shader cache and I did that, the full on freezing and constant stuttering got fixed but I still have somewhat of micro stuttering now and then. It is playable, but I'd rather just get all the stuttering remove since it's very irritating considering I spent a lot of money on my new PC and I feel like I shouldn't have this problem considering the specs. I run on low settings, v-sync off, not an internet issue and I've updated the drivers. I mainly play Valorant and I have no issues there.
You know you're a 3kliksphilip fan when you have absolutely no issue running the game but watch the whole video anyway.
Literally on a 4090 but love 2/3kliksphillips videos too much to skip any.
@@datatron100congrats
Help! I'm stuck at 390 fps and my eyes are laggy, how do you upgrade body parts?
Literally on 7090 Ti turbo but yes
I can't help it, Philip is just so dang good at writing sentences and reading them out loud!
I wanted to fix my cs2 performance but I didn’t want to learn it from no womanly guide. Thankfully I found this manly guide and now all my problems are gone. Thank you Philip, very cool!
no reply !!! lemme fix that shit
Philips the only cs youtuber to include clips of his fails instead of sick frags like other people.
@3kliksphilip I have a huge problem with my video settings. Every time I lower them, they do not save the return back to very high settings. It shows me recommended settings but every time I select them it doesn't save. It reverts back to high settings. I hate this game now and I just feel like deleting it now because the fps sucks. My specs are amd ryzen 5 radeon with 16 gb 3200mhz ram.
@@juliuskona3299make sure you restart the game manually after these changes,changes wont be saved if u exit the game by a crash or alt f4 also make sure u delete the back up files if the problem still presists watch guides on how to delete all old save files.
I dont know if you still play, but this happened to me also, it's stopped with the new update@@juliuskona3299
I like how this isn't just a CS2 performance guide, but a general PC performance guide. Good stuff
Pro-tip that most people don't know about:
Keep Power Plan on Balanced.
If Windows Game Mode is turned on, it'll automatically start running the game with High Performance power plan. This is also good because Windows Game Mode makes Ryzen CPUs perform better.
too many people aren't even aware their computer can be customized beyond choosing a desktop background.
@@white_mageXD, but this is true
windows Game Mode is bad, dont use it.@@akirajkr
@@akirajkr That's not how that works and not what Game Mode does. What makes Ryzen CPUs perform better are the chipset drivers and updated AGESA bios. Plan being changed to High Performance would actually hurt Ryzen CPUs.
Im not sure why its so common for the most common sense useful advice to be left out of nearly all tutorials, literally never encountered this before! 1:39
This is super common in game development too, like the most industry standard ways of doing things are never explained and then you end up spending a week on a workaround when there's an common solution (that nobody ever feels the need to mention when talking about your exact problem)
If you are retarded, this is for you.
it's kind of a no brainer if you assembled your pc yourself but true, I don't remember seeing any tutorial mentioning something as basic but as crucial as actually plugging into the correct device before
Prob useless but i have an i5-11350h with irisXe and its runin only at 40 fps at any resolution
@@sanjaychowdhary3118that usually indicates a CPU bottleneck
It is a no brainer because the dedicated gpu won't show up as the gpu being used in any game (it will list the integrated gpu), and your performance will be horrible
Hi Philip! I watched this video when it came out and specifically noticed the section about plugging your monitor into your gpu. This is something that, for me, resides in the tech support deadzone between "this is a very simple mistake someone could make" and "this is a very complicated thing someone wouldn't be able to solve" and, as such, I would never have considered it as a troubleshooting step for anyone who came to me with low framerates or other issues. I knew how to do it right and kinda assumed everyone else did, too.
Less than 8 hours later, I was in a call with a friend (who does not and never has played CS) that was having computer issues. I noticed their 3080 was at 0% utilization, and remembered that step this video. I asked them to check... and their monitor was plugged into the wrong place. It didn't entirely fix their problems, but it certainly helped.
Thank you for mentioning this in your video. I can attest to it helping at least one person.
A tip I found useful on laptops was to straight up take the battery out and run from the mains whenever you're using it. For me it helped my temps a lot as there was no longer a brick of heat at the back of my laptop, which in turn helps your performance as a laptop's main issue is throttling due to heat.
Neat, but I don't like the idea of opening my laptop every time I want to game and then putting the battery back in to use it as a laptop
@@davitdavid7165 If you’re someone who actually uses it as a laptop then obvs not. It was meant more for ppl like me who use it as a glorified desk top and never have it unplugged.
@@davitdavid7165this is why I miss how old laptops were where a lot of the parts were replaceable from a dedicated compartment and could be swapped in 20 seconds
Holy shit this might solve my problem
I was expecting a hyper-game-specific set of troubleshooting tips for CS2, but in reality this is actually just pretty good advice in general. For laptop gamers with Nvidia dGPUs, I'd also recommend going to the Nvidia control panel, then 'manage 3D settings', then in 'program settings', select the game you think may be using the iGPU, then select 'High-Performance Nvidia processor' in the preferred graphics processor drop-down menu.
I always changed it in the general settings since you want this for every game anyways but yeah, good tip
@@Mart-E12that works too, But occasionally some games (like 2D platformers, or even text-based adventure games/VNs etc) might try to use the dGPU when the iGPU is more than adequate, and will usually make the laptop fans louder overall, so i don't mind manually changing it from time to time if the laptop chooses an inappropriate GPU.
@@bilalsadiq1450 that's weird why would the fans get louder when the dGPU should barely be under any load in those
@@Mart-E12 I think that the dGPU, even when under a negligible load, kicks up the fans a little from its idle 1500 to 2500 (its a dual fan laptop, one for the GPU and one for the CPU) as a precaution against overheating, so if I only use the iGPU, the dGPU doesn't even ran at an low speed, meaning only the CPU/iGPU fan will spin up.
Processor: Intel 80386
Memory: 192 KByte
Display: Atari SM124 Computer CRT Monitor Monochrome Display
Render: Hercules Graphics Card
Home PC, Nicaragua
Problem: DOS 3.1 has no actual graphics output and the monitor can't display color.
Please help me what can I do. CS:Go had no problems at all
1 fps maybe
bro its not hopeless they made half life 2 run on xbox, just try a bit harder
@@zhbdie more like 1fpm
hopeless
@@SplashBlox avgeeks will interpret that as 1 feet per minute
Game feels really crisp now, thanks!
1:40 Connecting my monitor to the pc did the trick for me (also limiting fps)
Just for posterity, fps_max 0 is a bad idea. It causes CS to try and load impossible frame rates and, at least for me and others I’ve read about, makes map load in times slower. It’s better to choose 999 or a normal value like 400-500.
He made a video on it a long ago.
yes. it breaks the game completely. witnessed this. it causes fps drops of 80% or more. set a limit in the driver
@@vespa7961so, no limit is cs, limit in driver?
Rule of thumb for me is to set fps_max to double the refresh rate of your monitor
In go it's a good idea idk about cs2
This is actually seriously good advice for anyone in general, some even I wouldn't think to do aswell but thats just me not catching up on newer tech like G-Sync/Freesync. My brain still stuck in performance guides from 2013..
Lol same, I've turned Freesync off because I don't understand what it does.
Philip you need to test this command "engine_low_latency_sleep_after_client_tick 1" it was added recently and its description is "When r_low_latency is enabled, this moves the low latency sleep on tick frames to happen after client simulation." it only works when reflex is enabled and apparently it increases 1% lows by alot. Would love to see you test it.
replace 1 with "true" and it actually works
@@slezyorla it's a boolean so 1 or true should both work.
yeah it interprets 1 as true anyways
@@kipchickensout my god, I've been annoyed having to type true all the time now, thanks for the tip.
it won't help if you don't cap your fps. i have my fps capped and it helps but with fps_max 0 there won't be a difference
Take care of inside of your pc\laptop. Sometimes cleaning and changing thermal paste/pads is enough to make things better, but sometimes you have to buy a new cooler (especially if you have box one) or add/change fans, to make your case less like oven. Doesn't matter what thermal paste you buy, but how you put it makes a difference.
And changing cpu can do wonders even with weaker cards. I switched from r3 1200 to r5 3600 with gtx 1050 and I still saw a huge difference in games and overall performance. SSD is another cheap and good upgrade, doesn't matter sata or m2, both will do wonders (m2 is better, but if you don't have one sata still do it's job).
I agree with everything but I think its worth mentioning, it doesn't matter what thermal paste you use but you should probably get non-conductive paste/pads, especially if you are a novice
1. It doesn't matter how you "put" thermal paste. X, dots, smiley face, whatever the fuck you want, as long as you put enough of it and not too little. Too much is better than too little, excess paste will just be squeezed out by the cooler as you install it. It will only make a mess, not hurt performance. Make sure the paste is not conductive, but most good cheap pastes like MX-4 and Noctua NT-H2 are just fine.
2. It's a bad idea to randomly start changing thermal paste and pads, especially in a laptop, you could make things worse without realizing. First, determine that the paste/pads are indeed the problem by seeing if you even have thermal issues in the first place, and if dusting doesn't fix it.
I agree with the rest.
Don't even have access yet, but this is definitely the manliest guide I've ever watched. Thanks Philip!
Stop being such a fan and be realistic. This guide is very basic.
Clearly you're not manly enough for it. It's alright.
phillip looking out for us the people is hard as Fudge !!! thank you and good on your behalf of making shure cs2 gets the help it needs, a community that understands how to react to the changes andrealise what actions must be taken to make shure that we can all continue on with our questinable hobby
for 4:04: when conducting this test, always kick all bots because they contribute more to overall CPU workload..
for me its a 40% difference with/without bots
Does making the bot not controlled by ai (making them not react and not move) does the same?
I would assume testing with bots is a bit better because it's closer to a real match regarding overall load. If you set up your performance while alone on a map, that performance will most likely drop once you enter a real match because of additional processing/computing that needs to happen because of other people in the match.
@@rand0mtv660bots in your own server take up so much more processing power than real players on an official server.
@@cj7318 ohhh right right because a local match runs on your device. Would make sense. I didn't think about it that way.
I found that uninstalling Counter Strike has had a greatly improved performance for my life. As to others, keep up the good fight, love watching flick shot compliations.
CPU: I5 2450M.
Socket: RPGA 988B.
GPU: INTEL HD GRAPHICS 3000 (Integrated Graphics).
RAM: 8GB 1333MHZ Dual Channel.
Laptop: DELL Inspiron 14 N4050 0x0dc1 motherboard variant ( AMD discrete GPU AMD Radeon HD 6470M NOT Included).
Problem: There's no Problem, Just Flexing My Laptop Specs.
that's hopeless sorry
@@aloganj Flexing my laptop specs.
I was actually expecting a ultra low mod like the one there's for CSGO but it's actually a serious helpful video.
YOU MADE MY DAY, AMIGO !!!!! BIG THANKS 2 YOU 4 THIS SIMPLE AND CLEAN EXPLAINED VIDEO
hey, 3klik, be sure your cat gets lots of water... I lost my little fella last month due to kidney complications. cats usually drink way less water than they should and end up having kidney complications at some point!
If you are interested, Windows has significantly more options for controlling performance outside the default settings you can view in the power plan settings. Often OEM will set these to improve battery life. There are things which change min/max frequency from everything from P and E cores, to throttling of the CPU instead of spinning fans up to save on battery. Some of these can easily boost performance, while others are really niche and probably wont do much. Big caveat should be made here as you could end up significantly reducing the amount of battery you have with a minor setting, or reducing the life of parts as they get stressed more frequently. Similar to how charging batteries to 100% is worse for long time performance of batteries than charging to 80%.
Battery😂, windows power plan settings😂, OEM windows settings😂, reducing life span because of power plan settings😂😂.
@@Weneedaplague Life span of what? The CPU? The thing that outlasts everything in your PC? Average lifespan of 30 years?
PCIE power saving was one of those things back in the day that had a pretty significant impact on performance for low end laptops. I'm not sure it works like that anymore but it's worth testing if you are trying to eke out a few more frames on a low end laptop.
Great video mr phillips
Just a useful tip for anyone having frame drops. Try reapplying the thermal paste on your cpu. In my case it was because of thermal throttling
@@asr1el942 THANK YOU. Don't get why the fuck people immediately jump to "CHANGE UR PASTE" when you haven't even checked temps yet and it could make things worse
@beenguy5887 that was funny lmao
You didn't mention Vulkan!
Using Vulkan instead of DirectX 11 can lead to a significant performance improvement in some cases.
Just start the game with the -vulkan launch option
yeah but the game will be more prone to crashes in same cases because its using a different rendering system than normal and can crash on specific hardware
Vulkan is great to have as an option, but at least for me Vulkan is quite a bit worse than DX11. Just wanted to say that people shouldn't expect great improvements, but it's worth trying out.
Works better for newer GPUs that were designed for vulkan/dx12 in mind, but anything newer than 2019 is going to handle CS2 pretty well.
Game was actually unplayable with crazy stutters/freezes on my 6700k + rtx 2070 (only online tho, not offline with bots). Vulkan completely fixed that for me.
vulkan is way worse for me, 5600x 3080
For people stuttering on modern AMD GPUs (5000, 6000, 7000), look up how to disable DXNAVI on DX11 titles. Gets rid of the issue of the shader cache being constantly deleted, which gets rid of the weird stutters and freezes. Of course, this involves editing your registry, so do so at your own risk
I'm watching not because I have to but because i want to always for my favorite cstuber
Sometimes fps limit is better because it prevents the render queue from building up, which in effect accomplishes the same thing as nividia boost+reflex.
dx11 just like dx9 can clear render queue after each render so what you said here is just stopid
@@noone-zl4rj key word CAN, this does not mean it WILL, an FPS cap guarantees that it won't build up
also there is a chance that (for some reason) Valve does not have that enabled in DirectX
@@noone-zl4rj When the GPU load reaches 99%, it starts to build up in a queue, which is usually cleared within 2-3 frames, but it creates an input lag. The fps limiter prevents the input lag by not allowing the GPU load to max out. It became very popular about 4 years ago when battle(non)sense came out with it.
@@noone-zl4rj Modern GPUs support this at the game and driver level, so this remains a personal preference choice, but if your GPU is very old, this can be useful. In short, you're trading off fps for frame time.
@@zirize FPS limit has a caveat though. If the GPU isn't under enough load it will downclock / drop power states which creates input lag / inconsistant or floaty feeling. There are ways to lock the GPU to max clocks / power states however.
Not CS2 specifically, but in general I find it helps a lot to use overclocking tools to keep the graphics card (and memory) in a certain frequency range. Rather than just overclocking everything to the max, I get a much better experience when I down the max frequencies and up the low frequencies, such that it doesn't suck as much power and at the same time keeping the games smooth, because the frequencies don't drop much if the graphics card "thinks" there's nothing major going on in the game right now. I noticed this in GTA V first. As soon as I fixed the horrible lows despite having a powerful graphics card (RX 6950 XT) using the method described, nearly every single other game was fixed as well. So, instead of drawing around 300 watts when the GPU "thinks" it needs all the power it can get, and the next second lowering my FPS to around 20 because it "thinks" it doesn't need to do anything, I have a steady 80-90 FPS range in Cyberpunk 2077 now, all the while only drawing around 170 watts while playing (all settings maxed out + FSR Quality, no ray tracing). Oh and I use MSI Afterburner to accomplish this, the Radeon driver doesn't really save the frequency profiles as I wish it would. Hope this can help someone.
Where can you see the power draw ?
I wanna see for my pc too!
@@vinaygautamhome AMD's Adrenaline driver provides Metrics. You can configure them via the software and view them by pressing Ctrl+Shift+O. Don't know about Intel/Nvidia.
What are the settings in MSI afterburner?
@@SanderSovrlic-alesov Open the Curve Editor, use the leftmost point to set the minimum, and the rightmost point to set the maximum. For my GPU I set minimum to around 1700-1800 MHz and maximum is around 2500 MHz or 2400 (default maximum minus around 300-400 MHz). Something like that. In the end it should draw a steady line which gradually grows from left to right.
Also adjust the voltage if needed, e.g. games crash or black screen.
@@cheebadigga4092 Thanks. I will try this.
I have multiple friends who are experiencing varying degrees of stutter or lag when they scope in with awps and scouts. SGs are fine though. One has a slightly older intel/nvdia build and the other is a pretty new AMD build. Sorry I dont have exact specs will try and post in an edit later!
im experiencing this too.. the game freeze when i scope using awp... had to not use AWP when playing cs2 rn lmao
Unfortunately AMD has no "reflex / boost" type of option so you have to lock the clockspeed / power stages manually.. Ofcourse AMD stopped people from accessing MorePowerTool so you have to do it in a janky way in the driver. AMD cards were particularly bad on CS:GO because of the power states / constant downclocking.
Same, ryzen 3600 and 3070. My friends got the same issue on decent builds too. Idk what is taking them so long considering the release date was announced to be in "summer" :^)
Don’t worry to much I have a 3070ti intel 13700 or sum same problem it’s probably the game. I mean I run cyberpunk with no problems even rtx runs better than scoping. 💀💀💀
so far i only heard of issues with nvidia/intel systems. Would love to see or know those specs. either the older amd/nvidia build with a gtx 1060 and 3900x of my brother, or mine amd/amd build with rx 5700xt/rx6750xt and r7 5700x are running the game smooth af. ( both him and me have round about 250-300 fps while he has much lower settings then me ) with exception for a few days will the big limited test rollout where i had pretty wierd lags, after gamestart on any map, what i would relate to shader building, if this game with its pretty old dx11 implementation would have such thing. since a few days these are gone for me.
If you are playing on a laptop, using a program like Throttlestop to halt your CPUs turboboost from thermal throttling your laptop might make the game feel smoother too.
Some laptops share a copper heatsink from the GPU and CPU, so one getting hot impacts the others max performance.
Using this program I brought down my max turbo ratio by .5 GHz and it feels so much better and my laptop doesn't get as worryingly hot.
The fps remained similar but it did feel smoother, altough I admit that this all may be all in my mind.
Interesting, but iirc some manufacturers lock those kind of options. Do you know if it could work on a somewhat recent HP laptop ?
@@meuhtalgear Most 11th gen+ Intel cpus in laptops are now locked and cannot be tuned, unless you unlock them via a bios edit, which is just too much fuss for regular people.
On AMD you can disable boosting entirely in windows power settings and drop temps down by a lot, ~10c on my 5800H depending on use case.
Also, if you have a dedicated gpu in your laptop you should look in to undervolting, it's free performance and lower temps.
While having lower temps is better, I strongly doubt that CS2 is pushing any laptop that much where temperatures are the limiting performance factor.
@@3rd.world.eliteAJconfirmed on Intel 12th mobile. All 12th mobile non HX have locked setting no undervolt no overclock no matter brand model. It very dumb, if they don't want us to get more "performance" just lock overclock and let us undervolt and underclock. And it very complicated when you try to tell the customer that you have been shafted when you buy a i9 12950H and there is nothing you can do but sitting in desktop at 60-70C and 80-95C in a game that use 2 core. And all core clocks at 3.5 P core. Since they buy those laptop expecting those running cooler and higher clocks. I won't buy anymore Intel laptop at this point, and will not recommend it too anyone.
@@3rd.world.eliteAJsince you have 5800h you can do pbo2 and per core optimizing (automatically in Ryzen master) it help both performance and temp. Or you can just do traditional underclock with undervolt so you can still have higher clocks than turbo disable.
Also Ryzen controller let's you set how much power processor draws with and without boosts.
It was lifesaver for me, because for whatever ridiculous reason Lenovo decided to run my processor at 35w while amd specs say it should be between 10 to 25w max.
At the cost of 10% fps in most games throttling is gone, when I set it up on 20w.
1. For laptop users, try and prop up your laptop for better airflow
2. Of course, if you have single channel ram, consider if you can add another stick of ram to use dual channel.
3. Repasting your gpu and cpu could help.
4. Verify your fan curves
5. Try to undervolt your gpu (msi afterburner), to lower thermal load.
6. Should have been (2.), clean dust buildup on vents, heatsinks, and anywhere else.
7. Lower Room temp helps reduce pc's temp, dont get too cosey.
HTH
You can buy laptop cooling pads/stands for like $20-30. They help a lot.
Or for better cooling a laptop, improvise. As a poor student I used post it blocks to make the laptop stand a bit higher. Had better cooling like that.
Simple desk fan pointed at laptop can do crazy things.
Like the one you use on hot day to cool yourself, just point it at the laptop, and it will never overheat again.
unbelievably helpful video. Probably the best guide I’ve ever seen on getting the best performance.
me going into 2024 with a GTX1070 and i5 5500K, getting angry at csgo2 for not being smooth as butter
Hopeless
a new CPU will help immensely (GPU could use an upgrade too but I have used a 1070 with a newer CPU, Ryzen 5600, at 1080p and gotten very good framerates at high settings)
If you upgrade your cpu to an i7 of the same sockel you would be having no issues
CPU is a bit old, but should still deliver semi playable frames. How many are you getting?
I changed my i7 4790k for an i5 13600k and the performance gain is cs (and other online games) was huge. And thats using the same gpu still (gtx 1070). Although im looking to upgrade that too
Never played CS and don’t even own or plan to own a PC and yet I still find myself watching these vids
A helpful guide for computers in general disguised as a cs2 performance guide
Well done
When I first ran CS2 I was getting 100% GPU usage on my 3060 with terrible stuttering.
I later found out my refresh rate had reset to 60hz but I was trying to force 240hz using ingame settings.
Took me 3 years of owning my monitor to learn the refresh rate resets when you unplug the DP cable.
You didn‘t notice the difference between 60 and 240 hz on your desktop immediately?
@@midevo_ I thought I would too but I just moved, was using a really bad second monitor and had only used it for a day.
@@Friddle All good, was just wondering. :-)
100% gpu usage is GREAT
@@midevo_ :)
The only big counter advice that I can post is that getting the graphics driver from Nvidia or AMD on a laptop can be problematic.
I installed Nvidia drivers for my legion 5 pro and it completely bricked the display adapter. I had to reinstall Windows to get it back working and then go get the manufacturer specific drivers. (In this case, Lenovo.)
Just check first if the manufacturer has updated drivers for your machine if you're on a laptop before you go tinkering with the branded display drivers.
Thank you Philip for being a landmark of positive content in this community.
Thank you, this really helped. I had vsync activated in my nvidia settings, while thinking that it is off (because of the game settings). I went from 30-59 fps to 5x-1xx with my mobile Nvidia GTX 1060, on actually reasonably high graphic settings even. This is on my now 8 year old MSI GS VR 6RE Phantom Pro. (The scaling-up of a lower resolution doesn't work at all for me though)
Here's a recommendation, although obviously not for everyone: Try to use a different OS. If you're on WIn11, go to 10. If you're on 10, maybe consider switching to Linux?
If you're limited by how powerful your parts are, you'll need to optimize in other ways. Windows by itself is pretty heavy compared to other OSes, you can probably reclaim some power that way.
Resetting the os is probably best. it should honest-to-god be good practice to back up all the important stuff, then totally wipe your pc every year or so. 99% of computer problems are software 😭😭
Ah yes yet another furry spewing Linux propaganda. Guess what, it doesn't matter. Windows 11's shit runs on half an Alder Lake e-core.
If you're having SO much trouble running a game that nothing fixes it - an OS switch might not even fix it. And even if it does, it could be very fucking situational just like Minecraft, yet everything else runs the same, or worse, and on top of that, you have to fiddle with all sorts of compatibility issues because most other games won't work, which I'm sure your friends would happily and patiently wait for you to fix as they want to start a match but you can't join because you're running Loonix.
My point is? Nothing fixes it, then upgrade your fucking PC, don't bother with OSes. Only way to get ANY results. Don't waste time trying to optimize shit in software. I learned this the hard way.
@@makiacs No, no it's not. Unless you are reckless, install all sorts of shit, tweak every setting possible, follow dumbshit 'optimization guides' on Windows... then yes, reset your shit every year because you'll have to from all the damage you caused. I don't do things like that with my OS, I simply install it, tweak some personal usage settings like mouse speed and leave it at that. Haven't had to reset or reinstall for years bar for complete motherboard upgrades. Performance is top notch.
Man, reading the comments in this video reminds me just why I quit the tech community entirely. So much misinformation that people eat up without a second thought. So many entitled fanboys. It's tiring
@@makiacs Honestly, reinstalls don't really do much more than clean up your system. The underlying OS is still incredibly heavy- way more than it should be. If you're already gaming on a potato, the overhead of Windows is gonna be a killer.
I'd recommend SteamOS if you just want to game, but some other good alternatives could be Linux Mint and Debian. KDE desktop environment is the closest to windows (and imo the most well-rounded UX), and can be installed on any distro.
@@crylune im sorry man, i didnt expect that reaction. sorry if i worded it odd or something i didnt mean to come across as assertive or anything! i dont need to reset my pc every year but i do purely because of the stuff i need to use on it and all the different uses i have for it. there's a lot of software i use and over time they very much build up. im not sure what you're using your pc for, i have been helping people fix their desktop problems or a little around 6 years now and it literally almost boils down to their pc just being old. if you use your pc daily and actually do use it, shit will build up. your pc WILL run slower unless you clean it pretty well and in a lot of cases the issue isnt very pinpointable whatsoever. there are some great software options that automatically clean your pc of stuff you dont need and junk that builds up, though. those programs work very well!
my 'reckless' behaviour gets me 2% cpu idle and 0% gpu idle. it should absolutely be common practice to have everything backed up, so its not that hard to reset your pc every once in a while if you want to. every tech dude in the world should agree with me here. dozens if not hundreds of times have people came up to me and asked for help with an issue they're having and i check their task manager and their cpu is sitting at 75% idle because they have a bazillion background apps that accumulate
i reset my system a little over 2 months ago and i already have over 104 installed programs. shit will build up no matter what you do and its pretty unavoidable
also, if all the settings you tweak is your mouse sens and other 'personal usage settings' you're either lying or barely use your computer whatsoever. either way that's bullshit lol
Processor: AMD Ryzen 3 2200G
Memory: 16 GB Dual-Channel (1064MHz
Display: ATI Radeon RX 480
MOBO: ASRock A320M-HDV (AM4)
PC - Canada
Game runs not terrible, but will freeze randomly and will have to end process through Task Manager.
Processor: 7th gen Intel i7-7700K
Memory: 32gb DDR4
Display: 1080p
Render: Nvidia GTX 1070
Desktop PC. Europe.
Problem: Too old to brag about it being a gaming PC. Game runs fine.
Thank you it means a lot to us
If your performance is GPU limited it can help to run at a lower resolution.
But then it looks like shit
@@asr1el942sacrificing consistency and input lag though
@@MontySlython Can you explain what you mean by that? I can see how FSR might slightly increase input lag due to the additional upscaling step (though I question if most people can even tell the difference) however I'm unsure what you mean by "consistency".
@@electricindigoball1244 the visuals of fsr in my experience for some reason look inconsistent and can lead to inconsistent gameplay in a game like cs, makes it harder to build up muscle memory probably
@@asr1el942 obviously fsr would be better in such a case but most people play stretched res and don't have to resort to such a low res even for cs2. For them fsr would likely be a bad idea
Edit: I understand upgrading the GPU is the best option, I really wanted to know if its possible to mess with rendering in some way to let the ancient GPU handle it better perhaps? Something like LOD bias, etc ?
CPU: R7 2700x
GPU: GT630 Fermi version
RAM: 16GB 2400MHz
Problem: Very low frames when anything visual happens, especially when the awp ever shoots it drops from 60-100+ to
Your GPU is extremely old and slow, it's definitely time for an upgrade. Something like an RX 580 8GB or even 4GB would do well for cheap if your power supply can handle the extra draw and also has the necessary PCIe Power connectors
i have a GT 730 gpu and suffer from the same problems mate... maybe we should just cope with buying another graphics card already 😭😭
no, that gpu just isn't good enough unfortunately
Tbh that card was dooty when it came out a decade ago. I’d upgrade that.
This is a hard one. You've got an ancient low budget GPU. If you are not willing to upgrade the GPU, maybe someone is willing to trade his 2400G or 3400G for your CPU. The Vega graphics on theese CPUs should be 3x better.
My Desktop thats running CS2 at a stable 230fps (unless at Ancient T spawn). No problems to speak of here, just wanted to share my build as reference for others.
CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X
GPU: GeForce 3060
RAM: 32GB @ 3600MHz
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Resolution: 1680x1050
Graphics settings: All maxed out, Nvidia reflex turned off, no vsync.
I have similiar setup with 11400f and its performance is basically the same as yours
Why is everything maxed out, why that resolution, why is nvidia reflex turned off? I DONT UNDERSTAND YOU PEOPLE, IT ALSO PISSES ME OFF
@@z0xy4 graphics on max because i like my game to look pretty + shadows give you a big advantage in CS2. Nvidia reflex does something, idk, but i know that it massively reduces fps for whatever reason so i turn it off. Why that resolution? Thats the max resolution when using 16:10 aspect ratio. Kinda of like 1920x1080 is for 16:9 native aspect ratio.
@@zennr_ you are playing the wrong game bud, if you are playing cs for it to look good you are playing the wrong game, you should put everything on the lowest possible settings to maximze your fps your res is bad, that res is played by no one, try playing 4:3 i play on 1024x768 4XAA nvidia reflex should not lower your fps it should minimaxe the inut lag, look it up i think there is something worng with your GPU or drivers if that is the case you are having. Im not saying you should not enjoy the game how you like but for me it just pisses me off cuz i cant afford a good gpu and you having 3060 shows you have money to spend it makes me mad cuz i cant play the game someone who is good at one(to some degree) but you, who is just a dumb ass casual player( again sorry for the hate but it does piss me off) you can affrod a good cpu and gpu and you still decide not to use it to be good at the game. it really does pises me off, and yes that kid in me who always wanted to have a good pc so he can be good is still acing for one.
@@z0xy4 average 4:3 user temper
guys ! launch options type ( -threads "your cores" minus 1 ) so im my case i have 14 cores (i5 13600kf) then i type -threads 13
unlocks full potential of fps and 1%lows. which is the most important. im sure it will help many of you.
Hey Philip, have you thought about inspecting the spiral staircase in Dust 2 yet? I'm interested in knowing if Source 2 and its SDK makes this easier.
You're an absolute legend for these tips. Made my crappy GTX 960m graphics card run buttery smooth!
dont be ungrateful lil bro i run cs2 on an intel igpu
I can’t wait for when philips “hella alotta” just devolves into screaming
even using a desktop i7-3770, 8GB(2x4) RAM 1600Mhz and a GTX 1050ti, my game runs pretty well (120fps on average). Yes, everything is on low and i have a 720p monitor but for me is enough to not complain about performance
Out of curiosity, where did you find a 720p monitor in the last like 15 years?
@@federalcheesegrater556 my dad buy from a local eletronics store 10 years ago. btw this is the monitor: AOC 18,5' 936Swa
@@federalcheesegrater556there are sellers and manufacturers who prpvide hd tv and monitors, still.
Good for you, enjoy cs2 :D
GPU: AMD RX 5500xt
CPU: 5600G
RAM: 2X8 DDR4 3200mhz
MB: Aorus B450m
Issue: input lag and low fps
Make sure your monitor is plugged into the GPU not the motherboard. 4GB of VRAM may not be enough.
@@yourlilbrudder5766 My GPU has 8gb VRAM, but i is a GPU limites scenario anyway
@@edyrlos if that’s the case I don’t know why. Both parts are perfectly adequate. The GPU isn’t totally on par with the CPU, though.
@@3kliksphilip It's a GPU limiter scenario for sure, i made the FSR test on the video. One odd thing is: if i introduce bots on the server this makes little to no diference on FPS, seems more like a bug since both GPU and CPU usage are lower with bots on the server. I've noticed too a degradation on performance on training maps (the same happens on all 3 maps i have installed) i start the map with 400fps+ and after a time killing bots the FPS will steadly drop little by little to 100~150. The game is on beta after all.
@@3kliksphilip close to a offline map with bots (lowering the resolution increase the fps in online play, but dont make much of a diference)
This is a really well made guide, i don't have any issues running cs2 but if i did this video would be very helpful
I've got a
Ryzen 5 5600
RTX 3070
2x8 Gb DDR4 3200MhZ ram
and sometimes rarely but still the game just starts lagging out of nowhere i shoot a bullet it stutters, I get killed it stutters, an enemy walks closer to me in game it stutter. As of now i've found no solutions to these problems would love for a fix or anything
do you have an ssd or are you using an hdd? getting an ssd fixed all of the stuttering issues in cs for me. it used to be extremely annoying and get me killed all the time, because when either i or someone else was shooting at me, the game would sometimes freeze for 1-2 seconds.
Well, it’s not your components slowing you down. At least not the processor, gpu or memory.
You could try reinstalling on an ssd if you you’re using an hdd right now.
Did you monitor your temps? Maybe somethings off with the cooling.
Updated all the drivers? Plugged in the graphics card correctly?
Maybe something’s running in the background, have you been looking into task manager while gaming?
@@tagg946yes! I had the same idea haha. Also, install you system on ssd too.
@@Nyahnator interesting you metioned temps, i have the 5600x and its a very hot processor if youre using the stock cooler and pbo enabled on bios(its on by default), i got around 80-90 degress c on pubg, the performance didnt seem to be worse but its definitely smth to keep an eye on, i turnes it off and also didnt change much of the performance but the temps dropped down to like 65 or so
set a framerate limit in the drivers and change fps_max in csgo back to 400
Also really important is the ram setup, dual channel is an absolute must for most games as single channel is just held back.
Especially so if you're using an integrated gpu, the performance difference can be quite substantial just by upgrading from single to dual channel ram.
note that on ddr5, one single stick is already running dual channel, so you don't need more than one stick for dual channel
@@keppycs That's not entirely true. You still get an improvement to memory bandwidth by running two DDR5 memory modules instead of one. It's also worth keeping in mind that 8GB DDR5 DIMMs perform worse than 16GB DIMMs due to having less bank groups so for a DDR5 system you ideally want at least a 2x16GB kit.
@@keppycs Completely false.
Processor : Ryzen 7 5700g
Ram : 16 gb 2667mhz oc to 2733 mhz
Display : 1080p 180hz
Render : integrated GPU
PC: getting lower fps than the showcase
No GPU
I was expecting you to cover Graphics Settings
Which ones are worth keeping on other than shadows
can you do a feminine version next
Philip, the man that answers my questions.
I had performance issues in my first proper match and when testing bots. Without changing settings, it's been smooth after that. I'm incredibly impressed with CS2's performance, personally.
It feels weird, though. I almost always used to have a lower end PC and would constantly whine about performance. I'm not sure how I feel about losing that perspective.
So i have r5 2600 with rtx 2070 super and 2x8 3200 mhz ram and im only getting around 150-200 fps,so this is a cpu bottleneck i guess?
My tech specs:
Monitor: CRT Monitor Compaq 54 HZ,
Processor: Intel Pentium III
Video Card: GeForce 256
RAM: 1GB
SSD: 120GB
Motherboard: ASRock Industrial - UTX-115
Still haven't tried cs 2 but I'm sure I'll get a solid 80 frames
may need to get a voodoo
CPU: Intel i7 8750H
GPU: GTX 2070 Max Q
32GB RAM
Laptop : MSI GS75 Stealth 8SF
Problem: Just a general lack of fps when playing, bit of a global issue with other games but CS2 being slow is extremely annoying considering i relied on higher frames in CSGO and not having that is making it very difficult
what fps are you getting?
Do you have an external monitor? Sometimes the laptop uses the integrated graphics for display, which can result in lower FPS, but if, like my old laptop, the hdmi exit is not for the GPU it might change nothing, I recommend you call a friend to try their monitor and test if it helps
Considerung that the GPU seems to be fine, it might actually be a CPU problem (6/12 with a base clock of 2.5GHz and max turbo of 4.1 @ 45/35Watts). Have you checked if there are any power restricting options enabled? have plugged in your laptop into the powergrid? Maybe the laptop fan is blocked by something?
Try using a performance mode with the laptop plugged in the wall
This laptop is likely to be both power limited and has a very weak processor overall
I used to have a 13900K with a RTX 4090, on the low-ish settings I could get 400-500 FPS on all the maps in deathmatch, very silky smooth. But my 13900K recently fried itself and I am on a backup i5 12400F and my FPS is basically sh!te now at 80-200 FPS but mostly hovering around ~150, this feels slightly stuttery on my 240Hz monitor even with G-Sync off, so I can understand how rough it is for the majority of people on low or medium spec machines. CSGO didn't have this issue for me, only CS2.
This game is stupidly CPU heavy for no reason, even triple A games run better on medium
try to disable HT (HyperThreading) cores, those can hurt performance and latency. I suggest googling for "Processor idle demote threshold" and how to enable and change it to 100% with Processor Power Management Optimization. Sounds like common microstutter (DPC Latency) issues. No easy way around it but digging down the rabbithole of hidden Windows Powerplan Settings. you can try to play with the affinity's in task manager and keep in mind that CPU0 and CPU1 are mostly used to handle drivers/kernel and background tasks.
The 12400f shouldn't perform that bad it's still a recent cpu something else is going on
@@hazzmatiI believe him it is that bad, I have i3 12100f that is a little bit worse than i5-12400f and same issue than him.
I had stable 400fps in csgo with any settings in 2k, now fullhd and 120-200fps.
Gpu is 3060ti
Been having a few stuttering issues, as well as frequent crashes, even though the game runs at around 90-120 fps. I've heard people tell me I need more RAM and a new CPU.
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz
Memory: 8GB RAM
Graphics card: Nvidia RTX 2060 with 6GB VRAM
Display: AOC G2460V 1920x1080 @ 75hz
Oh god get rid of that cpu ASAP. Also consider a ram upgrade
Get 16gb ram and upgrade to i7 4790k but update your motherboard bios first just in case and also research your motherboard
Btw if your ram speed is 1333mhz get 1600mhz ram but dont mix and match
My laptop is very bad and it used to stutter and crash alot in CS2 but running the game on windowed mode got rid of the stutters and crashes while decreasing fps by about 10. I don't the reason why this happens but I'm fine with getting less frames for a more consistent experience.
Ya I’ve been getting stutters that last well into a few games of comp even after playing through some DM games to make it stop.
And then also crash a bunch so I reeeeeally hope they fix it. I’ve got mid-high end last gen parts this shouldn’t be an issue. Not low performance and not on the bleeding edge so idk.
The problem is the water animation for most lags at start of the round the grenades can be a bit much.
My laptop can handle cs2 very well but I had to restart my PC because I got locked at 60fps.
I have around constant 200fps but oh boy let's play ancient and let the t start running.
@@GardenofEdens same the water animation should be optional as it doest really enchance gameplay that much and disabling it wouldnt grant much advantage besides the extra fps
8:25 I personally use this in a couple games (especially Minecraft)
Limiting FPS to something slightly above the Monitor Refreshrate prevents your PC from rendering frames you wouldn't see anyways, and leaves more processing power for actually rendering the stuff around you (i.e. chunks in minecraft).
I am sad about every game that doesnt offer me a 65 Fps setting
You can always limit your fps with external tools so even if a game doesnt offer the option, check your GPU of choice software for a frame limiter or download one.
Thank you, good to know. So far no game has forced me to go that extra step for that fix. I'll keep that in the back of my mind
Having FPS higher than your refresh rate makes a huge difference in response time and smoothness of the game. I have a 144hz monitor but I always aim for 200+ fps in games for these reasons
@@LiamBanfield well yes it does, but thats for like competetive games like cs or idk what do kids play nowadays. But most games feel totally fine with 60Hz and fps limited to little above
@@LiamBanfield i dont hard disagree. but in most titles it doesnt matter.
Multiple reasons:
- Game doesnt even consider some of the stuff thats happening on your screen (low tickrate games, where stuff between the ticks is just fancy colors on your screen)
- Competitive games where reaction time matters.
For this one, ping, input delay, and the human reaction time, make me not care about the 5-10ms diffrence of doubling my fps. (just cuz i then got to see 1 frame earlier, that an awp was staring into my soul)
- for my final and favorite reason;
some games actually care about the client info rather than server.
in THAT case, any fps over your refreshrate matters. easiest example i can think of personally: Bhop in counter strike 1.6 (unless prevented per plugin) allowed for much more acceleration gain, if fps were in the hundreds. making people with 1000fps faster than those on 100fps. (Which is why most servers enforce 100fps limit)
Just a couple extra reasons why it rarely matters.
I dont mean to rain on anyone's parade, but my personal take is:
If you think those couple miliseconds are what save you from dying, then thats cope.
Positioning, proper crosshair placement, proper movement, or tactical thinking are much more the diffrence maker in modern competitive settings.
that one extra frame wont change your fate
My desktop PC is handling CS2 very well, but my laptop is rubbish, and even though CS2 runs, it works at like 20-30 FPS maximum on the lowest possible settings. But if anyone wants to cook, here you are:
Processor: Ryzen 5 3500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx (8 CPUs)
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Display: AMD Radeon (TM) Vega 8 Graphics
Render: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
Laptop
Insufficient performance
I'd avoid enabling reflex if you're CPU limited, I found it decreased the smoothness by a good amount.
Fr ? In what game ? Cs2?
NVidia reflex always OFF
i don't feel the different between on and off or boost.
@@A-BYTE94why? with vsync and an fps cap, it's great
It will decrease the smoothness, but improve input lag if you're cpu limited. Weather or not the trade off is worth it likely depends on how high your framerate is to begin with.
Core i5-6600f
Ram: 16384
Radeon RX 6500
Desktop Russia
Issue: stuttering
Low VRAM and GPU bandwidth bottleneck. The 6500 is too powerful for only 4GB of VRAM and PCIe gen 3 x 4 is too slow for it as well. I would first upgrade to a PCIe Gen 4-compatible CPU and motherboard. I’d recommend a Ryzen 5 5600, with a B550 motherboard.
set a minimum and maximum fps in your amd drivers
I have a 6700k, same family of cpu, I also had crazy stutters (only online tho, not offline with bots), but launch option -vulkan fixed it for me
Desktop PC
CPU: Ryzen 5 5600
GPU: MSI NVIDIA RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X OC 12GB
RAM: 16GB DDR4 RAM - 2x XPG D10 8GB 3200Mhz
MONITOR: AOC Hero 24G2 24" @ 144Hz
Problem: Even in moments having 400+ FPS the games feels like i'm running at 60Hz, but when the V-SYNC in game is turned on the game runs kinda more smoothly and seems more real how is supposed to be at 144Hz like CSGO but with alot input lag.
Same with a similar PC for me
CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X
GPU: RX 580
Memory: 16GB RAM
Problem: Significant performance drop occurs when there are more than two smokes in CS2. I believe my FPS should be higher; it was consistently at 400 - 500 on Linux. I get 180 - 250 ~in CS2, around smokes it drops to less than 80
That GPU is way too slow for the cpu. Even a rx 6700 would be a huge upgrade
@@3kliksphilipwould have been a good idea to add the display / game resolution to the info template. So we‘d know if someone is playing on 1080p or 4k for example.
@@3kliksphiliphey I love you 😘. Legendary videos.
that GPU is ripe for retirement mate
Bro is not just beating a dead horse, bro has singlehandedly made the entire horse population extinct
Processor: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz (16 logical processors)
Memory: 16.0 GB 3200 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
Problem: can't quite get a consistent 144 fps. For the most part my fps is over 130, but I get a few dips. Lowering the graphics doesn't help, lowering the resolution doesn't seem to help much, closing background programs only helps a little. Any ideas for a 10-20ish fps boost?
interesting I've got similar specs and get much more FPS than that
While I'm no expert on CPUs, 2.3 GHz is quite low, so I suspect you're being CPU throttled. You can try to keep task manager open next to the game to see if CPU and/or GPU usage is hitting 100% (GPU should be unless limited)
Since you're on a laptop, check if your laptop shipped with single channel ram as its configuration. Stutters are greatly affected by this IMO.
Try looking for a software of your laptop, my lenovo comes with one and there I can change between silent, normal or turbo (Fn + Q does it as well for me) it changes the CPU TDP and boost behaviour, the R7 6800H does 3ghz in silent, and almost 5ghz is turbo, GPU also gets way more power therefore more FPS.
TLDR: Check for laptop software to change power profile.
Check your temps, clock speeds and usage percentage on both gpu and cpu during gameplay and at both high and low settings. See if you find anything odd there, for example very high temps (85°+), low clock speeds, or low usage percentage (especially on the gpu)
I have a 8-9 year old laptop with a gtx 960m & core i7-6700hq. The temps are what holding my laptop's performance back by a lot (85-90 degrees on CPU), but I recently added another 8gb stick of RAM to make my laptop run in dual channel. It helps a lot more to the performance than trying to fix that damned overheating CPU & GPU (from 50 avg to about 80-90)
Nvidia reflex makes the frametimes less smooth, and can cause bad stuttering with the boost setting. I would advise only using the enabled setting, and only if you dont get motion sick easily.
Same for me, idk
It shouldn't. Are you using a laptop by chance?
Not for me. Where's your proof of this misinformation?
@@ADRENELINEDUDE My guess is he is using a laptop and the GPU is overheating with it on.
Processor: MOS 6502
Ram: 4 KB
gpu:
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issue: explode
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Advice: Switch from 16 bit colours to 8 bit colours in your desktop settings
the simplicity on this one is probably perfect
The AI thumbnails gotta go
2kliksphilip collaboration with 3kliksphilip is always great
The beta servers are laggy though. There is nothing you can change on your PC to fix that. I just hope the official release will run smooth.
GPU: 3080
CPU: 5800x
OTHER STUFF: DOESNT MATTER.
I HAVE ZERO ISSUE BUT IM STILL WATCHING
cl_righthand 0 when?????
I'm having a problem with the part that sits between the monitor and the chair.
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Vsync is good when paired with Gsync and fps cap 3 below refresh rate. In these cases it actually lowers the input lag. There are plenty of videos backing this up. I recommend cap in the game and if not possible in there or the games config files do so in the nvidia control panel.
3kliksphilip back at it again.
I litterally have the same problem, let me elaborate:
Laptop: Dell vostro 3530
CPU: i7 1355U
GPU: Nvidia MX550
RAM: 24 GB
Monitor: Build in screen 120Hz
Problems:
- The PC is limiting it self to keep cool (max temp is 61°C for CPU and GPU) --> 5 to 8 FPS max :/
- Sometimes it goes up to 90FPS for a while --> fans are doing great job and I dont really mind that. But just till the temp hits the 86°C.
- Then, it goes down again to 8 FPS.
Solutions I tried:
- Go to DELL setting and make what you did: Ultra performance thermal management + Primarly AC charging mode. but still the same :/
i got i7-12700h rtx 3050ti , problem is my clockspeed of cpu is going down to 3.0ghz from 4.8ghz so my fps fluctuate from 350-200.
might be the only video without this good music in the background
Important addition to the graphics card part: they may have the same model number but laptop GPUs are not the same as desktop GPUs! For example THe AMD Radeon 6800 is not the 6800M! Do not confuse it, it confuses you. I know, it's confusing.
Luckily 6800m is a pretty good laptop gpu. However trying to find nvidia laptop specs is insane, I have a laptop with a 4060. And when you look up laptop 4060 benchmarks you either get someone with a docking station or 4070 laptop benchmarks
another thing to look out for is just waiting til the game officially releases. it'll probably run a fair bit better than it does rn
Uhm can anyone help me when i start a practice match it works fine but when i start a matchmaking match after loading completes i return to main menu
make sure to put fps_min to 400 for a rock solid framerate
You left out a very crucial advice. Delete the DirectX Shader Cache with Disk Cleanup and delete the directx_installer in the game folder! That's a rather new performance tip, as cs:go wasn't affected by it. Don't forget to verify game files afterwards and maby restart the PC after cache cleaning.
That doesn't make sense unless shader caching in your GPU drivers is abnormally broken. Also, shader cache will get invalid after the next update anyway. Removing directx_installer will only skip DirectX 9 installer (CS2 uses DX11, and GPU drivers itself provide DX11 implementation), which is kinda useless for newer Windows OSes since they ship all the needed libraries.
High end PC:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d
Nvidia RTX 4070ti
32GB DRR5 CL 30 ram
Disabling Nvidia low latency in game and in Nvidia Control panel it made playing cs2 much smoother, went from bottom fragger to top 2 in most matches.
When I have first time used ROG Swift PG27AQN 360hz monitor I went for competitive match and I was playing worse then I was playing on laptop with 150 fps. After messing around with monitor settings I found out that having Nvidia ULMB2 Off, OD setting set to normal and set GameVisual to Racing mode made cs2 more responsive. In Nvidia Control panel I have disabled most of settings, but only settings that I changed are preferred refresh rate set to maximum performance and vertical synchronization set to Fast. Also Nvidia G-Sync is set ON it makes game more smoother without delaying mouse movement and FPS cap set to 330 fps.
CS2 Video settings:
1920x1440, Player boost contrast: On, V-Sync: OFF, MultiSampling Aliasing mode: 4x MSAA, Global Shadow Quality: Very High, Model/Texture Detail: High, Texture filtering mode: Anisotropic 4x, Shader Detail: Low, Particle Detail: Low, Ambient Occlusioin: Disabled, High Dynamic Rage: Quality, FFX Super Resolution: Disabled, Nvidia reflex low latency Off.
Anyone else figured out best settings for cs2 on High performance PC?
Good video man
Recently valve had updates with stability and performance improvements and my game is finally stable 😪had to deal with big FPS drops and a lot of instability with the FPS for a while, but it's much better now.
don't even have access to CS2, just watching to listen to philip talk
Laptop Specs:
Processor : Ryzen 5 4600H
Memory : 8GB
GPU : GTX 1650Ti
Laptop : HP Pavilion Gaming
Problem : never getting more than 70 - 80 fps, sometimes below 60, when I had over 120 fps in csgo
Processor: r7 5800x 8 core
Memory 64gb
GPU: RTX 2080ti
Problem: micro stuttering when packet loss spikes
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core Processor (16CPUs), ~4.2GHz
Memory: 32768MB RAM
Display: I didn't see a display tab in dxdiag
Render: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB
Self-built PC in Sweden
Problem: I am having VERY bad stuttering and freezing in cs2, I am constantly non stop stuttering and rubber banding and sometimes it even completely freezes for 2 seconds. I've searched the internet and found about clearing the DirectX shader cache and I did that, the full on freezing and constant stuttering got fixed but I still have somewhat of micro stuttering now and then. It is playable, but I'd rather just get all the stuttering remove since it's very irritating considering I spent a lot of money on my new PC and I feel like I shouldn't have this problem considering the specs. I run on low settings, v-sync off, not an internet issue and I've updated the drivers. I mainly play Valorant and I have no issues there.