Thanks for taking the time to provide insights. I've been a fairly long-time owner/user of a DOF P3, primarily used for racing sims, and your video is convincing me to make the move. I just received an email from Igor letting me know about the new gearbox upgrades and your video link was included. I was really concerned about how much disassembly or additional programming may be needed, but you make it sound fairly simple & turnkey - Thanks Again!
Great Video, mine are on the way for my H6. If you ever get the chance, look at upgrading to 6DOF... the heave alone is awesome when you land, and if you ever do carrier launches (I know they didn't have those in WW2) the surge is something to experience. Have fun!
@@Redmist370Z Yes we got them, we are running a bunch of "before" tests right now so we can actually compare the motion range improvement accurately. We are trying to make sure we get as much of this filmed and recorded because obviously once we do the conversion, we wont easily be able to go back if we miss anything. Believe me it is hard waiting, but we want to do as in depth a video as possible so that is where we are at currently. I'd imagine the video will be live by the end of the month if we don't run into too many problems. Stay tuned!
@@GYGOtv hey mark - this is weird - just sent you message regarding dof h3 and then get an email from dof today about new screw jacks - look forward to your review !
@@dsdsdsdsdsds3139 LOL isn't that how it always works. We are just waiting on some longer bolts and we will get this thing at least operational enough for the first go at the review. I'm anxious to see how big an improvement it actually is, instead of just "feeling" like it moves more. Stay tuned!
Hi Kane, appreciate the video a lot. My set of gearboxes is on the way, hope ordering them provides additional support these guys really need. They produced a great product at a really good price. Beautiful to see how one can appreciate to have a corner equipped like this :) I have a P2, using it for simracing mostly. But I do attach my Hotas mod and enjoy flight sims such as DCS and Flight Simulator, and also space sims such as Star Wars Squadrons. Few questions if you are able to answer please. 1. Is the lash/play still non-existent? 2. I really had a bit of an issue so far with sudden jolting and sometimes s or skipped or broken movement because of too strong telemetry inputs. I believe that sudden movements can be achieved a lot smoother with new gearboxes? And the whole mechanism is more efficient, providing better utilization of motor power, making the whole thing more powerful and laying less stress to the motors? Can you please confirm? Thanks so much for the video, keep enjoying your awesome rig! :)
Thanks so much for the insights! I have all spit controls together, next step is a motion rig. Is your 3dof enough or do you think the h6 would add another layer of immersion flying the spit regarding the higher price tag?
Good review thanks. Question please. When the unit is switched off I understand that the rig lowers down to a set position . For me right now with original gearboxes on a P3 having the seat go down is not an option due to other mods. Is there anyway to have the seat sit in a parked position when power is off?
@@GMCRaptor Sure you have... You are confused in your first question. kinda pretending you have a simulator and also it is clear that you dont and now you said you had it and have upgraded, if you would have had the dof then you wouldnt have had to ask questions. Take your BS elsewhere.
question, how do you find the g force straps? i am looking at getting them for DCS and wondered if they provide the type of tactile feel of tightness youd expect when playing DCS?
They are fantastic. Great in flight but also great in motor racing. I use them to pull myself into the seat and give a great sensation of g and unweighting
I just got a new P3 about 3 weeks ago and so far I am somewhat disappointed with the jerky movements in MSFS 2020 when banking, it feels like the the motor is moving in steps instead of a smooth motion. I have tried multiple profiles in SRS including the so called professional profiles with no improvement. Do you think this upgrade would get rid of this jerky motion?
I know this is old, but jerky movements are often the results of balance issues not profile issues. Not to say that you can completely remove the jerky motions but you can shift the balance from jerking on pitch up to pitch down (or vise versa) to find what setting has the least.
A lot of the jerky movements are the backlash in the original gear box design which the new screw style gear boxes elongate definitely will be smoother
Thanks for you video, how long was your delivery as I have just ordered the H2 for the use on Xplane 11 from Europe to the UK and what are your thoughts on how this works with Xplane?
Okay, so it looks like an upgrade for flight, but what about racing? You know racing involved abrupt movements or sudden movements. I would like a review on that particular genre by someone who actually do driving.
Whilst not a review - this a short clip of them on a driving sim: ua-cam.com/video/WrIYa2zX0Ek/v-deo.html And another below from another user a few weeks back: ua-cam.com/video/IbcpZBCyayw/v-deo.html
Flight sims are really the benchmark for motion. If there's anything odd with movement, that's where your gonna feel it. When driving land tethered vehicles you encounter bumps and jumps that mask the bad parts of movement. I drive mainly and the slack really doesn't bother me there, but wow can you feel it in MSFS. Not to many bumps in the air to mask the movement is why. But i still loved every minute of it. Can not beat these machines for dollar to smile value.
Hi, did you ever find a solution to you gearboxs after you did the mod because I have the same problem, but I heard on the new H3 they got an E stop to stop the rig when turning off but I don't know if it can be put on our older H3👍
Hi,thanks for your video,i have h3 model too and i have problem to put the new gearbox,you think you can send to me pictures of your build by email?thank you in advance.
Thanks for taking the time to provide insights. I've been a fairly long-time owner/user of a DOF P3, primarily used for racing sims, and your video is convincing me to make the move. I just received an email from Igor letting me know about the new gearbox upgrades and your video link was included. I was really concerned about how much disassembly or additional programming may be needed, but you make it sound fairly simple & turnkey - Thanks Again!
Thank you for posting, ill be getting the new boxes for sure.
Mine are officially on the way! I will post a review as well.
Fantastic clip .
Regards
Dave from Scotland
love it love it . best upgrade .will try it
Thanks for adding - looks great.
Thanks for review
Great Video, mine are on the way for my H6. If you ever get the chance, look at upgrading to 6DOF... the heave alone is awesome when you land, and if you ever do carrier launches (I know they didn't have those in WW2) the surge is something to experience. Have fun!
Did you get your gearboxes yet? Any thoughts?
@@Redmist370Z Yes we got them, we are running a bunch of "before" tests right now so we can actually compare the motion range improvement accurately. We are trying to make sure we get as much of this filmed and recorded because obviously once we do the conversion, we wont easily be able to go back if we miss anything. Believe me it is hard waiting, but we want to do as in depth a video as possible so that is where we are at currently. I'd imagine the video will be live by the end of the month if we don't run into too many problems. Stay tuned!
@@GYGOtv hey mark - this is weird - just sent you message regarding dof h3 and then get an email from dof today about new screw jacks - look forward to your review !
@@dsdsdsdsdsds3139 LOL isn't that how it always works. We are just waiting on some longer bolts and we will get this thing at least operational enough for the first go at the review. I'm anxious to see how big an improvement it actually is, instead of just "feeling" like it moves more. Stay tuned!
Nice video 👍
Hi Kane, appreciate the video a lot. My set of gearboxes is on the way, hope ordering them provides additional support these guys really need. They produced a great product at a really good price.
Beautiful to see how one can appreciate to have a corner equipped like this :) I have a P2, using it for simracing mostly. But I do attach my Hotas mod and enjoy flight sims such as DCS and Flight Simulator, and also space sims such as Star Wars Squadrons. Few questions if you are able to answer please.
1. Is the lash/play still non-existent?
2. I really had a bit of an issue so far with sudden jolting and sometimes s or skipped or broken movement because of too strong telemetry inputs. I believe that sudden movements can be achieved a lot smoother with new gearboxes? And the whole mechanism is more efficient, providing better utilization of motor power, making the whole thing more powerful and laying less stress to the motors? Can you please confirm?
Thanks so much for the video, keep enjoying your awesome rig! :)
I've just ordered my DOF H3 with the updated Motors (SFU Gearboxes upgrade?) is this what you are referring to? Thanks Great video!!
The gearbox upgrade they advertised came as a pairs?
Thanks so much for the insights! I have all spit controls together, next step is a motion rig. Is your 3dof enough or do you think the h6 would add another layer of immersion flying the spit regarding the higher price tag?
I love the h3 tbh. It’s fantastic
Do the gearbox upgrade make the dampeners not needed then?
That’s correct. I still have one on yaw though
Good review thanks. Question please. When the unit is switched off I understand that the rig lowers down to a set position . For me right now with original gearboxes on a P3 having the seat go down is not an option due to other mods. Is there anyway to have the seat sit in a parked position when power is off?
hi mate - my rig is balanced such that it doesnt drop forward when switched off
@@kane42nd58 thanks for the info. I have since upgraded from the DOF
@@GMCRaptor Sure you have... You are confused in your first question. kinda pretending you have a simulator and also it is clear that you dont and now you said you had it and have upgraded, if you would have had the dof then you wouldnt have had to ask questions. Take your BS elsewhere.
@@thomgizziz I think your comment was meant for someone else.
question, how do you find the g force straps? i am looking at getting them for DCS and wondered if they provide the type of tactile feel of tightness youd expect when playing DCS?
They are fantastic. Great in flight but also great in motor racing. I use them to pull myself into the seat and give a great sensation of g and unweighting
can you just upgrade the 2 front motors and not the Yaw motor?
I just got a new P3 about 3 weeks ago and so far I am somewhat disappointed with the jerky movements in MSFS 2020 when banking, it feels like the the motor is moving in steps instead of a smooth motion. I have tried multiple profiles in SRS including the so called professional profiles with no improvement.
Do you think this upgrade would get rid of this jerky motion?
I know this is old, but jerky movements are often the results of balance issues not profile issues. Not to say that you can completely remove the jerky motions but you can shift the balance from jerking on pitch up to pitch down (or vise versa) to find what setting has the least.
A lot of the jerky movements are the backlash in the original gear box design which the new screw style gear boxes elongate definitely will be smoother
I thought the P3 has the upgraded sufa gear boxes ?
Thanks for you video, how long was your delivery as I have just ordered the H2 for the use on Xplane 11 from Europe to the UK and what are your thoughts on how this works with Xplane?
Okay, so it looks like an upgrade for flight, but what about racing? You know racing involved abrupt movements or sudden movements. I would like a review on that particular genre by someone who actually do driving.
Whilst not a review - this a short clip of them on a driving sim: ua-cam.com/video/WrIYa2zX0Ek/v-deo.html
And another below from another user a few weeks back:
ua-cam.com/video/IbcpZBCyayw/v-deo.html
For racing it should be even better. This is about more precise abrupt movement and that's racing on the nose.
Flight sims are really the benchmark for motion. If there's anything odd with movement, that's where your gonna feel it. When driving land tethered vehicles you encounter bumps and jumps that mask the bad parts of movement. I drive mainly and the slack really doesn't bother me there, but wow can you feel it in MSFS. Not to many bumps in the air to mask the movement is why. But i still loved every minute of it. Can not beat these machines for dollar to smile value.
Great video! I see you use the TensionR from PT. I will get mine in a few weeks. Is it good for you? Thank you!
Absolutely outstanding. You’ll love it 🙂
Can you share your tuning chart for smooth flying? My H3 is on the way.
I have pics but cannot post them here - pm me in discord
@@kane42nd58 which discord? And what’s your name on discord?
@@buikhan kane 42nd#9495
Hi, did you ever find a solution to you gearboxs after you did the mod because I have the same problem, but I heard on the new H3 they got an E stop to stop the rig when turning off but I don't know if it can be put on our older H3👍
Sorry what problem? My gearboxes continue to work flawlessly
What is that black box, with big letter R, underneath your chair in the back?
My belt tensioner 😀
Yea, thank you. This looks too good NOT to get.
What kinda warranty came with the new motors, if you don’t mind me asking?
1 year 🙂
@@kane42nd58 Sounds good. So $400 for two gearboxes? Basically, $200 each?
@@reptilexcq2 400usd plus shipping. Two boxes, bolts and the subframe. I’d contact Dof reality for final pricing to be sure 👍
@@kane42nd58 Thanks again man. Mine came today!
Does this work with MSFS?
Youre from Sg? You are in an apartment bldg? How you work with the noise?
Hi - I’m in sg yes but on ground floor
Is there a reason why you don't need this gearbox upgrade for the third motor?
initially I didnt but now I have it on the third motor and its great. Completely removes all of the play
Hi,thanks for your video,i have h3 model too and i have problem to put the new gearbox,you think you can send to me pictures of your build by email?thank you in advance.
Is there anyone Here in the Phoenix Arizona area that has this or Simulator equipment willing to Demo it?
Yeah I bet you like randos coming to your house to demo your stuff for free... think before you say dumb things next time.
What game is that?
Here you can find the video how to change them. ua-cam.com/video/4fSEz48b_Hg/v-deo.html