TITLE CHANGE! Superman Legacy is now just SUPERMAN! | Big Thing
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Superman Legacy was one of the most anticipated films of 2025. Well, now just Superman is one of the most anticipated films of 2025. James Gunn, Director and head of the new DCU announced on Threads that Superman would indeed just be a standalone title. We discuss a lot about The Man of Steel. We talk about what the budget should be. We talk about what the plans will be going forward and we talk about the Kingdom Come storyline. We also discussed the new Crow reboot and if we thought the new images do the character justice and is Rupert Sanders the right guy to direct this one? We dive deep into the MCU and talk about the report that the new TV shows will focus mostly on the street level shows like Daredevil. The other report was that the Multiverse will continue past Secret Wars. Is this a good play or should Marvel abandon the storyline altogether? This and much more on big thing Capes & Cowls with Kristian Harloff, Coy Jandreau, and Winston A. Marshall. 
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@@DonttellEddie Thank you for writing this. I uploaded it to spotify on Friday and thought I hit publish. I did not. Should be there now.
What's nice is that I remember years ago Jon Schnepp would frequently say that he'd love a Superman movie for the first time that was just called "Superman". And now that's come to fruition.
miss schnepp dearly
He was my favorite guy on the intertwebs.
Ugh….RIP King of the Sweaties 😢
❤️❤️❤️ RIP Schnepp
Miss Schnepp! Man he left a hole on the UA-cam comic/movie space.
The change to “Superman” is a great subtitle change. It makes the movie feel brand new. 2025 is going to be sequelmania. Superman Legacy kind of feeds into that. Now it feels like a genuine universe restart.
Sounds to me like, remember how great the Donner movie was well, this has the same title!
@@adamw116Not really this is Superman. The Reeves version was Superman the Movie.
I read that Gunns budgets were: GOTG - $175/ TSS - $185/ GOTG2 - $200/ GOTG3 - $250. So I think you can get Superman (not legacy) in around $200M.
The Superman crest looks so good! So excited for SUPERMAN!
James Gunn bringing us back to the basics. I have faith in James Gunn. This man knows how to cast people in the right role. 👍🏾
I like the name change. Remember, the Donner version was called Superman: The Movie. At least they aren't doing the new and overused thing by putting "The" in front of Superman. They tried to call him that in Man of Steel, and I hated it. They do it enough with Batman.
Man of Steel would have worked and nobody would have complained if the movie was great and a big hit! I loved the.title Man of Steel it reminded me of Nolan titleing his version of Batman sequels The Dark Knight. To me the teaser trailer, no matter how you feel about the finished product seemed like it was going to be something new and more original. Almost indie film inspired. Batman Begins trailers and even the actual film kind of had that feel!
Donner's Superman wasn't called only Superman. It was called "Superman the Movie"
I personally don’t mind it being just called “Superman”. I mean Gunn is allowed to legally call it whatever he wants. Plus I think with that title being just “Superman” it’ll be something that’ll stand on its own and be able to compete with Donner’s 🎥. I think he’ll knock it out the park.
My favorite is Richard Donner's original 1978 film named Superman.
You mean, Superman THE MOVIE
@@chrisrpm8728 was it called that? My bad...its been a long time. I was born the same year that movie came out. Lol but yeah the one with the late great Christopher Reeve as Superman. I know the special FX are dated but for some reason that movie hits me harder than these new Superman movies. The FX nowadays look good but I wish it was slowed down a bit. It is the same reason why I could never watch or get behind any of these Transformer movies. Maybe I'm just too old now 😆 but it just seemed too fast and too much like a cartoon for me to invest my emotions into it. The 78 film with Gene Hackman as Lex Lurher and Marlon Brando as Superman's real father? Twas epic.
I prefer the title change. Seems like he'll bring back the feeling we get when we think of Supes. Literally the face of superheroes. Classic!!
I really hope I get the same feeling I had as an eleven year old when I walked out of the film after seeing it with my mom and best friend back in ‘78. If David C can bridge the goofiness but genuineness of Clark and the sheer love that Supes had for being Supes and helping mere mortals that Reeve did, I am all in. I am encouraged by the great cast and Gunn himself, so let’s see.🤞
Hey did anyone here that crazy "WAIT" while Winston was speaking? It was quick, but it scared the fuck outta me while I'm at work. LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂
That was Lil Jon saying, "What?!" 😂
kristian was having fun with his soundboard
42:07 guys we all talked about this on collider years ago. Literally everyone has been attached to the crow. I remember when Bradley cooper was rumored way back in 2013!
the first guardians movie had a budget of 170, vol 2 was 200 and vol 3 was 250. TSS was 180
We’ve never had a movie called Superman. It’s crazy. The original was called Superman: The Movie. It makes way more sense than Superman Legacy. You can’t have a legacy, until you’re established.
They knew what they were doing releasing that Crow pic. It sucks but it gets people talking. Absolutely ridiculous.
The '78 film was actually called 'Superman: The Movie'. So just calling this one 'Superman' separates it from Donners movie.
It will be interesting to see what kind of tone James Gunn will be going with for Superman.
calling it just _S U P E R M A N_ feels way more proper
So excited and happy for Superman. Can't believe I'm saying that, excited for a superhero movie again. What makes the logo great is it feels more alien for the slant and the press/media just runs with it as an S for Superman
The biggest issue with The Terminator franchise is the quality of the movies.
You can make a shitty $5 movie or a shitty $20,000,000 movie. The quality is what matters, not a budget.
I’d trust Nolan with any budget he wants. It’s all about the creatives involved.
Budgets fine for Superman. It’s more important that it be great than make a ton. Unless you know the story the cast doesn’t automatically mean it’s soooo huge. Remember these characters are already in this world.
I think the budget needs to be capped around $200 mil.
Guardians movie budgets were huge because you had a ton of stars, loads of CGI with space and ships, Rocket, Groot, etc. Hair, makeup, and costumes couldn't have been cheap. And then licensing for all of those songs had to have been expensive.
Superman doesn't need nearly that much, at least not right out the gate. We need a few good fight scenes, and that should be the bulk of the budget. Go ham with those. Not quite Man of Steel 40 minute apolcalyptic levels of ham, but still something that rocks your core. Otherwise, the rest of the movie just needs to be silly scenes with Jimmy, cute scenes with Lois, intense scenes with Luthor... smaller, intimate, dialogue-heavy scenes to get us invested in the characters. Those should cost pennies, by Hollywood standards.
I agreed budget should be around 180M-200M
I think I'm with Coy in that I think that budget should reflect what they want to go for and that should apply to any movie going forward within the DCU. So just like I do think a movie like Superman that has to set up an entire tone and feel for the universe, should be about 185 to 200 million dollars, whereas a movie like swamp thing that is traditionally a more intimate story and character should be about 70 to $85 million. In my opinion, being more concerned about budget than what the story and goal calls for is just as dangerous as not being concerned about how high a budget can get. And I understand that the concern is there because of so many movies having high budgets and making almost nothing in the box office, but in this situation I think DC needs to be more concerned about making good content versus making money because being more concerned about making money is what ultimately killed the DCEU. So even if Superman only makes say 500 million on a $200 million budget, I still wouldn't panic because if the movie is fantastic, then it would elevate audiences confidence in DC again and will make it easier for the next movie to be able to actually make a profit and a sizable one at that
So the crow, kung fu panda 4 and mega mind 2 are coming out this year. Wild times man
superman legacy did sound like a sequel which was a bit weird for a first movie. and as we know from schmoedown there has not yet been a movie just called superman. the 78 film was called superman the movie.
I think that since this is the first movie that the DCU is going to be built upon, Gunn & Safran are going to want to walk a fine line with the budget. They want to be able to make the movie that they believe will be great, as well as profitable, while also keeping it in line and not go overboard. This will be a standard setting movie in many ways for this regime. That way, down the line if another director says they need a certain amount for a movie, they can use this movie's budget as a reference point and respond "Do you really need that much?" Gunn's 2 previous DC projects had budgets of $185 million (The Suicide Squad & Peacemaker). I can see them shooting for a budget around $200 million for Superman.
I had totally forgotten that Ray Winstone was in Black Widow too
I'm so happy studio's are not cheaping out on making movies, I hope Superman cost atleast 250mil, it needs that kinda budget, if its not a great movie the new DCU will be in a pretty bad situation
The original Superman wss actually called "Superman: the Movie" so technically Superman hasnt been used before
The budget convo can just be exhausting that’s all. We finally get some new superman news and the conversation was about the budget? Love the show I just hope we can talk about the “Show” more than the “Business” (Show Business)
I've been digging the budget conversations. It's an aspect I had never paid attention to before but you guys do a great job of explaining how a budget can help or hinder a movie. Also a big fan of the name change from Superman: Legacy to just Superman. Gives the impression that the movie will be more focused and streamlined, which is exactly what comic movies need right now.
I love the first "The Crow" movie; It's one of my favorite movies from my childhood. I've seen the 3 sequels, which I know most people don't like, but I like them (among the sequels, 4 is my favorite). I was a big fan of the tv show too. I'm perfectly fine with Bill's look; it's not what anyone would have expected. I'm fine with someone trying to make something their own, and taking a wild swing. I'm probably a little more optimistic about the remake than most people are.
I wish I had your optimism about it. Haha
@@ottallman I totally understand that. I have the same perspective as Coy, that regardless of any remake/reboot, or adaptation, it never takes away from the original, so I'm a little more ok with whatever the end result is. Even if the remake doesn't end up being great, I think at the bare minimum it will be enjoyable; at least that's my perspective, but I could always be proven wrong.
"Stop talking about the crow!" I dont know why I love Professor Crow so much, but I do lol.
Great discussion, I am excited about SUPERMAN…JAMES GUNN for the DC 🥇 🏆
Purely MY guess with nuthin’ to base on…but I think Gunn was always gonna call it just Superman…it’s HIS house now, & there’s never been a movie just called that, ‘77 was Superman The Movie…he’s starting a universe cart blanche…THE opt to call it just, Legacy was always just a working title & he “officially” changes it when shooting starts…again, just MY hot take!🤷🏻♂️
I’m glad the MCU shows are gonna be street level. The best part of Ms Marvel was when it focused on Kamala and her family/community
Changing the title from Superman: Legacy to just Superman makes more sense since it's the first one in this new universe. The previous title is more meant for when we're a few sequels down the road. As for The Crow, I never saw the original, so I don't really give a shit about the character's appearance, but I second Winston's view in that it would've been a better move to do a sequel with a new character instead of remaking the old movie. I've always wanted to see it, so I'll have to do that before this one comes out. However, it's being released on the same weekend as Bad Boys 4, so that could be a problem. As for the MCU continuing the multiverse storyline, I'm all for it. Like Winston said, it simply needs to be reeled in. Other than Loki, we still haven't seen much of what they can really do with it when done neatly. I'm also good with Marvel focusing on the street level shows. And I have to push back a bit on Winston and Coy about Gen Z struggling with friendships and wanting less sex in entertainment. It was only one study from UCLA that came to these conclusions and they only surveyed their own students. I don't think every student even took it either, so I'm not buying it. The media got a hold of this and ran with it. They do just fine with friendships as anyone else.
As someone who never watched the Brandon Lee Crow, I’m not attached to the old design and love the new look. Excited for this movie and for Bills portrayal
I don't care about the budget as long as the movie is good!
Seeing dune 2 being 190 makes me feel like all these films need to reign in their budgets.
It’s Dune. Watch and see how much the third film cost. Also they spent 190 on Dune. I don’t think the second film no matter how good it is is going to make a lot of money. No one outside of Hollywood is talking about it. People did not talk about the first film.
@@dadarkknight36310 understandable. I think dune caught on by word of mouth and honesty think itll make 600+ million worldwide.
Title works ....hopefully it's not overstuffed given the cast of characters associated
Using the Barbie movie was not a good example. Also, the only thing great about Black Adam was the visuals. Just imagine if we didn't have that. It's like they knew the story was garbage and needed to make up for it. I also strongly agree with Coy, they need to go big on Superman. The visuals need to be Dune level.
Love the title change just for the fact that it's the first time we've gotten a Superman movie that's just called "SUPERMAN". Technically, the 1978 original is called that, but it was marketed as "Superman: The Movie", so I'm glad we have a modern Superman movie in today's age that's called that....
I am starting to get tired of hearing the same ideas brought up by Kristian week after week of his preference of lower budget movies like creator and Godzilla minus one, I would rather the focus be more on this weeks headlines, such as speculation on the Superman title change and the meaning for the character, or more discusion on the emblem reveal and how it compares to previous interations of the character and what it could mean for the larger story of the DCU moving forward. I want to hear more " capes and cowls" talk and budget cuts/business talk also, but if it fits with the current events from the studios that are on the news this week, this way the discussion is fresh and not rehash over and over. Keep up the great work guys!
Believe it or not this is the first ever film that’s been called just “SUPERMAN” the donner one was “superman the movie”
Ha true.
32:10 budgets right now in gaming are absolutely effecting gaming. So many layoffs and games being cancelled after having these massive budgets but now stockholders want bigger profits
I don't think the budget will over 200mm. They know not to over spend. Which is why most of the sets are practical. There's nothing worry about. This is James Gunn. He doesn't like over spend.
The budget for the original "Guardians of the Galaxy" was 170 million and according to Gunn, they finished the movie under budget.
“You make editing so hard for me!” 😂
I love that this symbol makes you tilt your head and ask “is that an S?”. It’s perfect… because on krypton, it’s not an S. Only our world would interpret this symbol that way. It’s perfect
Budget isn’t the issue, it’s marketing
What people don't realize is a film budget doesn't include marketing along with other things. If the movie cost $200 million to make it has to make about $600-650 just to break even!
You are correct! Except Idk where you got an additional $400-$450 million on marketing that is crazy talk and would never happen in a movie set. Marketing budgets are usually fixed ahead of time, and are typically half or 3 quarters of production cost.
@@gilbertoarellano8525 Years ago someone from a studio showed a very detail breakdown of a Harry Potter movie. The movies budget was $250 million but after you cover the cost of everything pertaining to the movie. It actually cost closer to over $700 million.
@@SonOfAsgard-ku4kd I’m trying to find anything related close to that story and can’t find it, send me a link because I would love to read up on that. That aside the exception is not the rule marketing budgets don’t ballon that insanely just wouldn’t make any financial sense.
@@gilbertoarellano8525 It saw this way back in like 2017/2018.Also marketing for big movies can almost cost as much as the movie. Marketing budgets aren't included in the budget of a movie . Avengers End game spent $200 million on marketing alone. That's why the movie rule of thumb is whatever the budget is you have to at least double that. That's not even including the marketing. So $200 million has to first make over $400 million then add the $150-$200 million for marketing and you already at $550- $600 million to maybe break even. Let's not forget other add-ons I'm missing
Hi Mr Harloff this is the show I look forward to each week I love it
Glad you enjoy it!
I kind of liked the legacy name, though I am not sure what it really signified as it doesn't seem (from the little we know) that clark seems to he grappling with the concept of legacy really. So maybe it's a good thing.
Also i have no problem with them spending money on the superman movie you can't cheap out on it (not saying it needs to be 300 obviously).
EDIT: As a big fan of the crow i am hoping this is good, the image looks like dante from the devil may cry reboot.
Man of steel budget 220$ Superman returns budget 204. U can’t scale down a Superman I p . I just think it depends on the I p and how good is the script. Like black Adam should had a low budget
Yeah but both of those were different times.
Yeah it gonna cost more now
What about the Crow soundtrack!? That was the first soundtrack I ever bought. F'n love it!
I hope they get Trent Reznor back, though he might be too big at this point when it comes to soundtracks.
31:02 WTF?! What was that? I thought I was having an auditory hallucination!? Lol😳
More show, less business plz…. Couldn’t tell you the budget of any of my favourite movies, it’s irrelevant to the consumer.
Back in Jedi council days when there was all that excitement around TFA, I don’t recall one conversation about the budget - everyone was just hyped about the story possibilities and the characters - that’s what fans care about, let the execs worry about their spend.
Talk about what you want the story in Superman to be! Not how much of someone else’s money they’re gonna spend making it.
The point of the budget comment isn’t that budget doesn’t matter, it’s that it only does if the film ISN’T successful.
There was NEVER a question of budget when it came to Nolan’s Oppenheimer, or Cameron’s well…anything.
There is never a question of budget with a studio like A24. It’s always big IP’s. This is Superman. While I understand that having a smaller budget can help a film be more monetarily successful, or the director be more creative, that’s not always the case.
If Superman is successful critically, and ISNT a smash hit/billion dollar movie, the DCU will absolutely continue.
They did question the Avatar 2 budget until box office started coming in, but yeah, I get your point
I don't exactly see the average consumer spending $3,500 on a Vision Pro
OMG! Foundation is the best sci-fi since The Expanse, and The Expanse is the best since Battlestar Galactica. Y'all should watch both... (since I'm sure you've all seen Battlestar)
If it’s a ‘big deal’ that a Superman movie is called ‘Superman’ then I think the movie is in big trouble as far as expectations
I liked the reveal of the crest and title change. Although I don’t think starting filming on Superman’s birthday is just a coincidence.
Ha right!
I feel like it was a situation where they were like okay we’re planning to start filming February 25th and then someone said would of been cool if u started on February 29th which is a leap year and actually Superman’s bday and James Gunn went “really? That’s cool let’s do that”
The symbol, title change, selfies... I love it all, and can't wait to see the final product. When it comes to the budget, I totally get both sides. Coming off the litany of box-office bombs in relation to their budgets, I would've thought that DC/WB would be a bit more cautious with how they spend money. But on the other side, you're hoping to jump-start with THE quintessential superhero that is Superman; a character who honestly hasn't had a movie that has been embraced by ALL audiences since the 70s and 80s. I definitely understand the need or mentality to swing for the fences, and throw a good chunk of change at it. Like Kristian said, if it was any other director at the helm, I'd be a bit more worried. But because we've seen what James Gunn can do for both Marvel AND DC, and within these realms tell human stories along with the absurd, and the fact he has legit put out there the importance of nailing down a story and script, I do have a bit more trust that the budget will be justified. We'll just have to wait and see. But going off what I've seen and heard thus far, I'm ready for a clean-slate for Superman and the rest of the DCU.
Love the use of the Kingdom come emblem i think this movie will be a return to form for superman and truly show why hes such a great character
Many movies have done extremely well after pandemic. Billion is not the only number meaning Sucess.
I was never a fan of the Kingdom Come logo because at first glance it looks just like a line through the middle of the shield, it always felt lazy to me. Here, though, I like some of the angular curves that make it look like an S (insinuated by the yellow outlining). Glad they're still keeping the eclipse yellow, yeah red with black looks cool but red with yellow IS Superman....
I trust James Gunn. He has never let me down. If he makes a 300 million dollar Superman film, then i’m all for it.
Love the jacket Harloff, Rambo style!
I actually like them just changing it to Superman because obviously it fits in with the fact that the name "Superman" alone hasn't been done since the 1978 version is called Superman: The Movie. Also, I think the name Superman has more weight to it than Superman: Legacy. Just keep it simple with the titles.
Chad was Brandon's stunt double on the Crow, so having him direct would have been interesting.
Omg that's the same guy. Wow. I remember hearing about him when I was younger. The stunt double who finished filming the crow after Brandon lees death is the same director of John wick films. Time flies and we keep pushing lol amazing.
After TRON: Legacy (2010), Mortal Kombat: Legacy (2011-2013), The Bourne Legacy (2012), Sniper: Legacy (2014), 24: Legacy (2016-2017), Master Z: The Ip Man Legacy (2018), Lake Placid: Legacy (2018), The Craft: Legacy (2020), Space Jam: A New Legacy (2021), Bosch: Legacy (2022-present), and Hogwarts Legacy (2023), using "Legacy" for the subtitle of a sequel/prequel/reboot has become a cliché. I'm glad James Gunn changed the title of his Superman movie.
I hope the people at Blue Chew fully appreciate how perfect an add on a show called The Big Thing is. You should be their only add!
Why do people think this is kingdomcome when the authority is involeved this symbol is clearly from that recent run of superman called superman & the authority
At least it is not "The Superman"
just wait
James Gunn Superman no longer having Legacy in the title is a little disapointing, because i like the sound of it. As long as the budget is not over 300 million there is no need for concern. To be honest i forgot The Crow reboot was happening until the photos leaked lol. It looks fine with make up but the plot synopsis has me a little worried. I wish they just made another entry in The Crow franchise instead of doing a reboot of Eric Draven story. There has been so many tragedies in recent years that could have been used as a good story for a new Crow movie.
The beloved, Superman the movie cost $55 million in 1978, $260 million in today’s money. Iron Man budget was $160 million, worth $200 million today. For Superman, the greatest Superhero of them all, you want it to be the best superhero movie so I think $200 million is reasonable and should be able to break even at least.
Am I weird for not wanting a “lower budget” Star Wars and Superman film? This Superman film has to be BIG and SPECTACULAR. You can’t do that with just 150 million. If it doesn’t look BIG I’m going to stay home and wait for the streaming debut.
Little known fact Superman was created in my hometown Cleveland Ohio, I don't think that the multiverse should continue because I think that the next phase of the MCU should be the Mutant Saga or it could be the cosmic saga because we are going to have X-men and the Fantastic 4 after Secret Wars and both teams have cosmic storylines and I think it 'll be cool to see the cosmic side of the MCU or the next phase could be turned into something dark, we'll have to see what Kevin Feige is going to come up with naming the next saga after this multiverse saga.
On my 1st trip to Cleveland I learned that fact upon walking through the airport. That big Superman display yall have is awesome I took many pictures!!😊
@@therealtacomember It is pretty cool and we have a few museums that have great Superman displays
They are going to film parts of Superman in Cleveland and Cincinnati.
I like the name change. Just “Superman” hits harder to me than Legacy. I love the title “Superman Legacy” but as an end film title as a culmination of all that superman was able to do throughout his movie tenure
Surely the answer to *extreme* super hero fatigue is to tell the Superman story. Again.
The last Superman project was (checks notes) 2024 😐
The difference is that James Gunn has already confirmed that this Superman movie will not be an origin story. It will be similar to The Batman where the hero is already established but that he’s still in his early days.
@DABA2024 don't forget snydercut
2021
Except you’re forgetting there really isn’t super hero fatigue. It’s mediocre movie fatigue. Deadpool and Wolverine will prove this.
Yep, that Superman insignia looks great.
I think you could get a great Superman movie off a $170 million budget then they're only looking at needing to make around the low 400 millions to have at least broken even
Agreed aquaman 2 is mids as mids can be but that manta and aquaman fight at the end where their just going at it with those spears is like DUDE. Fucking yes haha.
The action was awesome. But the film was sad to watch because you could tell it was chopped up
Hollywood needs to control its budgets if they hope not to lose money at the box office , you can see that they are trying but they still have a way to go. However, in any case there are always exceptions, in this case safe bets like Avatar, big movies like Avengers and necessary bets like Superman should be allowed to cost more than normal. At the end of the day Hollywood is a place to offer large events, it is almost impossible for them to become like Japan or India.
Something I want to highlight is that a lower budget depends a lot on the type of story and the ability of the producers and directors, and as much as I love Gunn, he is not Villeneuve or Nolan, and he doesn't have gareth's vfx knowledge.
No, it absolutely should not be named SUPERMAN, that is Christopher Reeve's movie.
Out of respect for him and his family, this should not be called that, it should be called Superman Legacy
Guardians 3 was 250 mill budget. First was only 170.
Chad Stahelski was also a close friend of Brandon Lee, they trained together growing up, and Chad doubled for Brandon after the tragedy.
He would've been the perfect choice to helm The Crow, man. I don't know if he would've done it, but it would've been such a poetic full-circle kind of thing...
But nah, we'll get the Snow White guy. Good enough!
Im willing to bet Kristian doesn't know he used the metal gear solid sound effect for Winston
I don’t have faith in The Crow remake. It’s been in development hell for years, which doesn’t bode well for the movie.
And like Kristian mentioned, it's directed by Rupert Sanders who has not directed a good movie yet. It's weird that they went for him as the director.
It feels like a story/ movie of its time.
I’m so fucking excited about this movie #Superman and just the #DCU in general. LETS GOOOOO
visually, I feel the same way about this crow as i did about Leto's joker
Discussing superman news with a guy who just saw Superman The Movie. Hardly an expert panel 😜
Did we say there was an expert panel somewhere? People who call themselves experts on movies, I don't take serious. It is movies. This isn't world news broadcasting.
I think the story has to be good. Im sure its movies with small budget that look like 250 like matt reeves and some other films. I think Gunn knows what he's doing. Im not worried i just want same feeling as a kid when i saw Christopher Reeves Superman in theater for the first time
1:27
That's why you should never pre-record, especially for Capes and Cowls 😅
If any DCU project deserves/needs to have "all the money" put into it, it HAS to be Superman. He's the touchstone that connects all the DC Universe together.
26:32 that exact quote is literally Shogun about spectacle
25:31 I think that’s what Bob Iger wants to do now with Disney’s budgets now. If I’m not mistaken