1950s CHINESE CIVIL WAR DOCUMENTARY MAO ZEDONG VS. CHIANG KAI-SHEK KMT VS CCP ARMY 88614

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  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 3 роки тому +247

    History is always interesting.

    • @YuLum
      @YuLum 3 роки тому +22

      And tragic

    • @lucisleesion8824
      @lucisleesion8824 3 роки тому +8

      Yeah, of course.
      The PRC tried to reach out US ambassador. in Nanking, while President Truman said negative, which solely pushed China to the brace of USSR

    • @victor-hugedivitorilamas5802
      @victor-hugedivitorilamas5802 3 роки тому

      @@lucisleesion8824 To be fair, Mao Zedong was an individualistic and treacherous leader with his allies and also a great douche when it came to ideology fanatism.

    • @khoocheepeng
      @khoocheepeng 3 роки тому +8

      If those Japanese killed your grandfather and raped your grandmother, I don't think you want to used the word "interesting", my grandfather was killed by Japanese air bomb during 1942.

    • @glorych1168
      @glorych1168 3 роки тому +2

      destiny of China since 1928 linked to USA.
      Truman abandoned chiang n roc doomed

  • @mr.cosmos5199
    @mr.cosmos5199 3 роки тому +205

    “ the Chinese are superb people ,highly intelligent and original......make wonderful friends but fearful enemies “ Pearl Buck

    • @kshen7485
      @kshen7485 3 роки тому +20

      Yes, nowadays CCP’s success stories have proved the correctness and truthfulness of her statement, no matter her honesty.

    • @kenmasters797
      @kenmasters797 3 роки тому

      question..
      is china nowadays still as commies?

    • @kshen7485
      @kshen7485 3 роки тому +19

      @@kenmasters797 nowadays Chinese don’t care, their philosophy is: “No matter what color, as long as cat can catch the mice, it is a good cat”. Americans have their proud “democracy”, but their infected and death toll of pandemic is ranking in the world no.1. Same as the “democratic” India and Brazil, aren’t they?

    • @kenmasters797
      @kenmasters797 3 роки тому +1

      @@kshen7485
      so in other words is like is pk being big and the big one can get anything smaller...?
      ok i understand it now..
      i think most part of the world gets hit hard by the pandemic although they said the first infection sites was in china..
      even though i would still want the world at peace and free of the pandemic

    • @kshen7485
      @kshen7485 3 роки тому +2

      @@kenmasters797 No, it happened 1st in the USA.
      Might be no conspiracy, at least the ignorance and negligence could be the root cause of nowadays American pandemic fatalities.
      “The respiratory outbreak” of Greenspring in Fairfax county ua-cam.com/video/U02oKwsiyHM/v-deo.html (Video was published on July 12, 2019 by local TV CBS 17)
      Fairfax county is one hour away to the US army bio lab at Fort Detrick in Maryland.
      ua-cam.com/video/pwpVcJj8dtA/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/IVbv3rI7f94/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/o_GhA7CCSMY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/GM-gzm_sOM0/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/thqMeO_vGOQ/v-deo.html
      And later on the coverup and pointing the finger at China with “Chinese virus” would be the serious systematic political corruptions and crimes.

  • @penlei003I
    @penlei003I 3 роки тому +107

    The Yalta Conference, US Britain sells China's rights to the Soviet Union, cutting China's Mongolia, Hand over control of the three provinces of Northeast China to the Soviet Union. The rights of weak countries are used as bargaining chips for private exchanges by powerful countries。 So we decided to be a player, not a bargaining chip.

    • @ergouzz
      @ergouzz 3 роки тому +7

      Great comment

    • @amubi
      @amubi 3 роки тому +16

      Never trust any foreign country

    • @夏江-k1x
      @夏江-k1x 3 роки тому

      朱元璋

    • @golonawailus4312
      @golonawailus4312 3 роки тому +8

      best comment so far

    • @KnightofRave
      @KnightofRave 3 роки тому

      Add what of the chairmen who now use proud chinese people as barganingn chips? Forcing them into a life of bitter servitude and silencing any who want for a pursuit of happiness or legitamite of the people democracy?
      All of this time you have been Played... player...

  • @Mondo762
    @Mondo762 3 роки тому +237

    My earliest memories are of living on Taiwan as a US Army brat. This was 1953 - 1956. My father was an Army officer and we lived in the middle of the island in the Taichung area. I remember armored columns driving around the island and planes dropping leaflets. My father told me later on that Chiang Kai-shek was constantly threatening to invade the mainland. There was still shooting going on between some smaller islands and the mainland. I still have my fathers MAAG-Taiwan patch.

    • @ThePizzaGoblin
      @ThePizzaGoblin 3 роки тому +11

      Whoah. That's wild. Thanks for sharing!

    • @nyxhen-t7ldap
      @nyxhen-t7ldap 3 роки тому +2

      謝謝分享

    • @kshen7485
      @kshen7485 3 роки тому +21

      @Glorious Me Yes, it was the trying to go back his motherland from Taiwan province.

    • @ryanpruner1853
      @ryanpruner1853 3 роки тому +3

      they were probably just running drugs. wouldnt be surprised if chiang used that as an excuse to keep the gears turning

    • @andrewnorrie2731
      @andrewnorrie2731 3 роки тому +12

      @Glorious Me Chiang may have thought so, but his US paymasters were not going to let him drag them into a war with China, especially after China set off its first atomic bomb. And Korea had not been the happiest experience for US forces.

  • @aostlund27
    @aostlund27 3 роки тому +74

    My great grandfather was a Lt Colonel in the KMT. After the war ended, he fled to Hong Kong (which was British at the time), then Taiwan, then Japan, and lastly to the United States becoming a naturalized citizen at Ellis Island in 1952.

    • @mrsnufkinsan
      @mrsnufkinsan 3 роки тому +2

      Wow!!!!

    • @ilpomelo
      @ilpomelo 3 роки тому +1

      Before 1965 immigration of East Asians to the US was highly restricted with a quota of ~50 each year. How has he done that?

    • @aostlund27
      @aostlund27 3 роки тому +5

      @@ilpomelo I’m not entirely sure and it’s not clear either, but I remember my great aunt saying that there was a distant relative that was living in NYC during that time and that’s how he eventually became a citizen of the USA

    • @StevenX-v1r
      @StevenX-v1r 3 роки тому +11

      @@ilpomelo No, US was KMT's supporter. Many Chinese from Taiwan and Hong Kong emigrated to US at that time. Many rich Chinese and high rank officials moved to Taiwan with KMT. But Taiwan was too small for them, and KMT could not give them positions. Many of those people moved to US with their fortune from mainland China.

    • @chatter4427
      @chatter4427 Рік тому +2

      A KMT soldier moving to Japan, pretty funny

  • @Mrpastry909
    @Mrpastry909 3 роки тому +44

    I'm surprised, the Chinese pronunciations aren't as bad as I'd imagined they'd be in a 1950s film. Kuomintang is correctly pronounced with a hard G sound, Chiang Kai-Shek's last name has a J sound, and Mao Zedong's name isn't too horribly mangled.

    • @somgears1589
      @somgears1589 3 роки тому +4

      Maybe nowadays people just dont want to work hard on their job

    • @Mrpastry909
      @Mrpastry909 3 роки тому

      @@wenshuenkung2049 你是台灣人嗎?

    • @Ickie71
      @Ickie71 Рік тому

      in thewest it was mao tse tung for decades!...wow what a spelling error that was.

    • @Mrpastry909
      @Mrpastry909 Рік тому +2

      @@Ickie71 It wasn't a spelling error. There have been several systems used over the centuries to write Chinese names in Latin letters. Mao Tse-Tung uses the Wade-Giles romanization system, whereas Mao Zedong uses the Hanyu Pinyin romanization system, which didn't take off in the West until the 1970s.

    • @Ickie71
      @Ickie71 Рік тому

      @@Mrpastry909 oh thankyou forthat i knew i remembered that right

  • @esl2317
    @esl2317 3 роки тому +55

    Later development:
    1950s CCP fought UN in Korea.
    1970s CCP fought US and USSR at the same time.
    1980s CCP help US weaken USSR.
    1990s I was born.
    2010s~20s CCP competes US in technology and economy.
    2021 I received my PhD and work in Shenzhen, mainland China.
    1950s KMT illegally invaded Thailand and Myanmar.
    1970s KMT lost its UN seat.
    1990s KMT and DPP argue whether the island is ROC or ROT.
    2010s KMT lost forever to DPP.
    2020s DPP accuses KMT as CCP puppet.
    Thank you for publishing the clip which is valuable to history lover. As a native Chinese, I have relatives on both sides of the civil war. This is the same situation for countless Chinese families. As you know, Chinese value their family more than ideology. So it is well accepted till now that we are ONE FAMILY accross the Taiwan strait. Despite politics and ideology, people can live and work freely on both sides, and treated as native citizen. So independent or not, I don't think that makes much difference in common people's life.
    Hope US will not interefere too much because we all know what that means... from history.

    • @IvanDmitriev1
      @IvanDmitriev1 3 роки тому +1

      You're welcome, that's my objective actually - find and showcase the most out of the forgotten or lesser known parts of history. I'm focused on historical research, and it's actually @PeriscopeFilm which does the purchasing, digitization and restoration of these movies, that I, along with other domain specialists in their historical specialties, then process.
      There are more clips here, which and normally I process those when new ones are digitized. Just look up by keywords such as China, Hong Kong, Shanghai and so on, and please donate on their Patreon :3 if you are so inclined :) .

    • @苜蓿-z2l
      @苜蓿-z2l 3 роки тому +12

      You forgot 1960s fought India in Himalaya.

    • @peterchang3142
      @peterchang3142 3 роки тому +6

      I'm so sad to see this document, and the result of the civil war, Mou claimed that Chinese people stand up again, actually their lives became more worse ever, under the communist goverment, people has no freedom, landlords lost their land and lives, communist Party and the leaders became the new landlords, the door is closed from outside, the whole country was isolated for 30 years, the liveving standard was backward, the food was limited, everything were un?der controled, until 1976they shaked hand with American in order to solved their problem.

    • @esl2317
      @esl2317 3 роки тому +5

      @The A team Thank you. Sino-Viet war is part of the Sino-USSR conflict so I omitted that. Sino-India war... I prefer to say a border skirmish without much consequences.

    • @Amidat
      @Amidat 3 роки тому +7

      @@peterchang3142 Documents declassified showed Mao tried to reach out to Truman - but he was rebuffed. It was the US who isolated China - just like Pearl Buck predicted in this film. Same thing was done to Cuba... Castro tried to be friendly with the US before he turned to the Soviets - but he was ignored.

  • @chriswestwood3289
    @chriswestwood3289 3 роки тому +171

    Interesting, if CPC is ruthless, why people follow them and fight with useless American allies?

    • @geoff9858
      @geoff9858 3 роки тому +3

      To regain their independence from the countries that "occupy" parts of China.

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 3 роки тому +54

      because the commies were ruthless towards the landowners and other "upper class" people, who were like 1% of the population while giving land to the peasants who were 99% of the population. plus the KMT was even more ruthless but in the opposite way, ruthless towards the peasants and in bed with the rich. then you add incompetent and a heavy dose of corruption, its virtually impossible for the KMT to win by the time the commies had consolidated in manchuria.

    • @yanlongfu8443
      @yanlongfu8443 3 роки тому +5

      the question you ask should be considered common sense and many propaganda just omit that.

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 3 роки тому +10

      ​@The A team 放屁,一开始可能不是每个人都拿到,打战要紧。后来谁老家没一块小地? 我爷爷那一代就有国家给的地,后来拆迁,换一楼。你没分地, 一前肯定是地主。
      蒋介石想法还可以,当是他就是没做到, 政府照样腐败,民不聊生。

    • @null..
      @null.. 3 роки тому +5

      "And most people join the fight in 1945 are the ex Japanese Kwantung Army in Manchuria"
      What a BS.... lol

  • @geyretibra1143
    @geyretibra1143 3 роки тому +98

    This is so absolutely valuable even today to understand the real problems, demographics and history of China as well as US-China relations.

    • @freedomisdead9638
      @freedomisdead9638 3 роки тому +2

      By saying that you said absolutely nothing! Your comment sounds so woke, so P.C, so random
      In your comment switch the two words "China" and "U.S.A" by any countries, regions, cities, peoples, races, whatever and your sentence will exactly mean the same "nothing"! Nothing specific!

    • @geyretibra1143
      @geyretibra1143 3 роки тому +4

      @@freedomisdead9638 First of all, by "the real problems" I was implying that many have inaccurate or misguided views on the politics of China; then followed immediately with "demographics" and "history", I was pointing out that these two factors are worth-nothing and not just the "political systems", "dictatorships" or terms we have used a lot when discussing the topic.
      The US-China relation is stressed in the end because I liked how the old intellectuals approached a completely different culture with objectivity, analytical thinking, firmness, etc. all these things that we are lacking today.
      Because I wanted to write a quick comment it might seem over-generalizing. But there's deeper meaning I implied but didn't explicitly state, such as the above.

    • @jackl2257
      @jackl2257 3 роки тому

      @@freedomisdead9638 nobody cares ....cancel culture?

    • @glorych1168
      @glorych1168 3 роки тому +1

      destiny of China since 1928 linked to USA.
      Truman abandoned chiang n roc doomed

    • @cattycorner8
      @cattycorner8 2 роки тому

      I hope the U.S. does not stand aside and let China overtake Taiwan the way we have let Russia conquer Ukraine.

  • @mz0911
    @mz0911 3 роки тому +61

    It's a good film but I think some of the screen is from ww2 against japanese.like 4:50 that looks like the chiang kai shelf s elite force equiped with German gears and weapons. Most of them lost at the Battle of Shanghai against Japanese. During chinese civil war chiang's force were equiped with american weapons.

    • @xxxx9131
      @xxxx9131 3 роки тому +7

      在中国战场你能看到所有国家的武器,因为中国之前一段时间军阀割据,所有各个军阀有各个不同的支持国家

    • @tonbopro
      @tonbopro 3 роки тому +1

      Chiang‘s Elite were deliberately pulled from frontlines to his side during the war and so did not really fight the Japanese despite what was drummed up;those who sacrificed were lesser not so well equipped but what they lacked in arms they more than made up with valour,just a side note in eyes of propagandists

    • @andraslibal
      @andraslibal 3 роки тому +2

      @The A team it was a waste of the best troops to draw in Western participation. It would have been much better to keep the inner parts of the country wage a low key guerrilla war and let the Americans fight it out with the Japanese take the brunt of the casualties and end the war with the Chinese nationalist army intact. It is only after huge devastations of a war that the communists can take over. Also they were helped by the Soviets a lot.

    • @charleschoy1392
      @charleschoy1392 3 роки тому +3

      Several elite divisions fighting in the civil war, were totally German trained!

    • @shermanfirefly5410
      @shermanfirefly5410 3 роки тому +2

      @The A team And the thing about KMT elite forces is that the KMT rely heavily on inport ammunitions, so when their trade with Germany was cut off and KMT factories fails to produce enough ammo for the german weapons, those elite forces ran out of ammo pretty quickly

  • @TrueBluesProductions
    @TrueBluesProductions 3 роки тому +53

    Many parallels to recent news from Afghanistan. There's major differences of course, but nevertheless, striking similarities: American funded and armed corrupt urban leader falls to rural insurgents backed by neighboring country, against the odds. The parading of captured American equipment after the insurgent victory, and so forth

    • @orecreeper2128
      @orecreeper2128 3 роки тому +8

      Actually, for a large part of the civil war, the US completely stopped funds to chiang kai-shek's government and tried to overthrow him because he kept going against them.

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair 3 роки тому +9

      Vietnam???

    • @研究生在宇宙的各個方
      @研究生在宇宙的各個方 3 роки тому +12

      @@Vysair yes, more common features with Vietnam in 1964-1975, the communist government in the North with Soviet support, the pro-Western government in the South with American support and communist or at least pro-communist resistance in the South, but contrary to South Vietnamese government Chiang Kai-shek did not have a real massive and straight American support, American troops did not fight against Chinese communist unlike against Vietnamese ones.

    • @Amidat
      @Amidat 3 роки тому +5

      Yup and American people never seem to get it because the news media feeds them fantasy.

    • @noahpeng1689
      @noahpeng1689 Рік тому

      @@Vysair The same is true of Korea. If the United States does not maintain its military presence, it will soon be swallowed by North Korea.

  • @cheeseloop7777
    @cheeseloop7777 3 роки тому +86

    Pearl S. Buck was so on point!

    • @mz0911
      @mz0911 3 роки тому +9

      OMG this is the first time I saw her in a film

    • @robertnegron9706
      @robertnegron9706 3 роки тому +3

      The Good Earth. Read that book.

    • @LilStoops
      @LilStoops 3 роки тому +3

      According to Pearl, his qualities as a man was lacking. Wow, that's a message that would be 'problematic' for the people of today. But I suppose, when the proverbial hits the fan, that same mob will once again want capable men to step forward to save their collective skins.

    • @yanliew4027
      @yanliew4027 3 роки тому +1

      according to Pearl Buck, the nationalist chief lack capability!

  • @25leopoldaus9
    @25leopoldaus9 3 роки тому +15

    Thank you!

  • @josephsiew8494
    @josephsiew8494 3 роки тому +104

    The takeaway from this documentary is that in 1940, the commies had won every battle they fought north of the Yangtze.

    • @sjsupa
      @sjsupa 3 роки тому +8

      Same for south.

    • @xxxx9131
      @xxxx9131 3 роки тому +8

      并没有,1940还在抗日呢,1941年珍珠港事件,同盟国才开始真正帮助中国

    • @sjsupa
      @sjsupa 3 роки тому

      @@xxxx9131 他说的是40年代,并不是1940年这一年。

    • @xxxx9131
      @xxxx9131 3 роки тому +3

      @@sjsupa 40也不对,40已经过湖北湖南了

    • @josephsiew8494
      @josephsiew8494 3 роки тому +1

      @@xxxx9131 the guerilla warfare by the commies

  • @stevechilcoat2353
    @stevechilcoat2353 3 роки тому +20

    General Albert Wedemeyer must have been highly competent general. Listening and looking at him today makes one realize how inferior our military leaders are currently.

    • @forrestlee6435
      @forrestlee6435 2 роки тому

      he did an excellent job alerting the Truman government about the upcoming collapse of KMT, Truman did nothing but follow the agreement between US and USSR, which is not to intervene in China. All death of US soldier in Korea and Vietnam is because of the loss of China.

    • @stratospheric37
      @stratospheric37 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@forrestlee6435 Hahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 lololololololol

  • @xkn8147
    @xkn8147 3 роки тому +56

    It's so interesting to see the American perspective on this.

    • @lwt9132
      @lwt9132 3 роки тому +8

      I have never heard the American perspective about anything.
      I think America never comments anything about Libya or Iraq.

    • @freedomisdead9638
      @freedomisdead9638 3 роки тому +7

      Not all the Americans in power to be specific, General Mac Arthur's had a different view on the matters,
      He was willing to clear communism with nuke bombs, as early as 1945! The guy was a genius!

    • @lwt9132
      @lwt9132 3 роки тому +18

      @@freedomisdead9638 u dont even know what communism is.

    • @lwt9132
      @lwt9132 3 роки тому +11

      @@freedomisdead9638 libtard

    • @freedomisdead9638
      @freedomisdead9638 3 роки тому

      @@lwt9132
      Do Vietnamese don t know about Communism? Shut up!

  • @coresimon6675
    @coresimon6675 3 роки тому +74

    we should introduce more Chinese views of their history. that way we understand them better.

    • @terry1708
      @terry1708 3 роки тому +31

      This is only part of the history, Chinese know the full history. do you know that CCP and KMT were working together like one party for a long time when Sun Yat-sen lead China before Chiang Kai-shek. But after Sun died, Chiang wanted to kick CCP out and started killing CCP members, and started five wars with CCP. That's why the CCP had to start the Long March, and the CCP army went down from 300 thousand to 20 thousand after the Long Match. When the Japanese invaded China, KMT and CCP worked together after Xi An INCIDENT. But KMT don't want to work with CCP together after WWII.

    • @coresimon6675
      @coresimon6675 3 роки тому +2

      @@terry1708 I tend to know more, any books you can recommend?

    • @explorerofunknownworlddept6232
      @explorerofunknownworlddept6232 3 роки тому +1

      @@coresimon6675 你自己就是中国人。哈哈哈😄

    • @coresimon6675
      @coresimon6675 3 роки тому +1

      @@explorerofunknownworlddept6232 I like to be considered that way :)

    • @glorych1168
      @glorych1168 3 роки тому +1

      destiny of China linked to USA. since 1928
      Truman abandoned chiang n roc doomed

  • @dssdaf5010
    @dssdaf5010 3 роки тому +36

    Imagining defeating a U.S. equipped, motorized, 3 million men army and conquering such a large country with primitive military equipment (no jets, no battleships, few tanks, limited ammo). Even though Mao made many political blunders when managing China, he is a military genius. Some people in the comments really have no idea what they're talking about. He occupied rural areas to encircle cities and sap the adversaries. He started from the north and pushed to south. He used many flanking and encirclement tactics. And he didn't have any formal military education. This is pure genius! I bet if General MacArthur, whom I think is an overrated 5-star general, led the nationalist army to fight against the PLA under Mao, he would be whining for more nuclear attacks to help him in months.

    • @willbill6663
      @willbill6663 3 роки тому +2

      very true

    • @leontan3512
      @leontan3512 3 роки тому

      Lin Biao moreso than Mao.

    • @hulugulu7899
      @hulugulu7899 3 роки тому +4

      @@leontan3512 Lin Biao became an excellent commander after he met Mao.

    • @casecao8412
      @casecao8412 3 роки тому +5

      @PANDEMIC BY CCP AND XITLER Even after the war with Japan, the KMT still had far superior numbers and better equipment over the measly CCP fighters. In 1946 Chiang was still well respected, had many experienced veterans under his command and had strong holdings in all the wealthier regions. The KMT outnumbered the CCP over a million troops. Despite all the odds Mao still won anyway with an army of peasants against a professionally Western-equipped army
      No matter how you spin it, Mao is clearly a better tactician than Chiang. That's probably less due to Mao being a genius, and more to the fact that Chiang was kind of a moron who turned all his allies away from him and allowed Mao to hit all his weak points. In the end many of the KMT's own regiments and generals abandoned it and joined the communists.

    • @casecao8412
      @casecao8412 3 роки тому +1

      ​@PANDEMIC BY CCP AND XITLER Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to a 5-star general! Please allow me a glimpse of your divine, infinite wisdom!

  • @陈颖-d1j
    @陈颖-d1j 3 роки тому +16

    I was surprised by Petal Buck’s point. She predicted communist China so right. She stayed in China many years and knew China very well. And a genius for sure!

  • @IvanDmitriev1
    @IvanDmitriev1 3 роки тому +23

    Hello all! I processed the historical elements of this movie, if you have any questions regarding its contents, you're free to ask, and I'll answer if I have time!

    • @back282317
      @back282317 3 роки тому +1

      China? real China? who? ha😎

    • @marekmazurek8459
      @marekmazurek8459 3 роки тому +4

      I don't care I'm watching it to find out info don't need your help with a documentary lmao

    • @arseneaubert6600
      @arseneaubert6600 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@marekmazurek8459 If you're such an expert, why aren't you doing it? I bet you can't understand anything without explanation:P Such a poor fish lol... 🐛🐛🐛🐛🐛

    • @glorych1168
      @glorych1168 3 роки тому

      destiny of China linked to USA. since 1928
      Truman abandoned chiang n roc doomed

  • @m.a.118
    @m.a.118 3 роки тому +28

    00:26 Interesting how a US 1950's documentary recognized Tibet as part of Nationalist China....

    • @david-lonewolf8924
      @david-lonewolf8924 3 роки тому +5

      A territory of a sovereign nation is not to be "recognized" by a foreign nation, what you see here is simply a matter of America's double standard and hypocrisy, using such standard, America simply ceases to exist, not even the original 13 colonies. Tibet was not a part of China until the 18th Century when Manchu's Qing Dynasty finally managed to have a solid grasp of that enormous piece of beautiful land, the Nationalists' ROC (Republic of China) and later the PRC (People's Republic of China) simply just inherited the land from its previous regime.

    • @batzorigvaanchig6358
      @batzorigvaanchig6358 3 роки тому +31

      @@david-lonewolf8924 that "beautiful land" had a literal slave society and caste system until communist liberation

    • @a.m.armstrong8354
      @a.m.armstrong8354 3 роки тому +6

      @@batzorigvaanchig6358 Agreed.

    • @david-lonewolf8924
      @david-lonewolf8924 3 роки тому +10

      @@batzorigvaanchig6358 Absolutely right. You're one of the rare who actually knows the true (dark) history of Tibet. Props to that, buddy. "beautiful land" refers mainly to its mesmerizing natural environment.
      In 1958 my grandpa, a PLA soldier, was deployed to Tibet, serving and helping operating a local power plant. Almost lost his life when the 1959 riot suddenly broke out, he witnessed innocent people getting chased and cut down by the rioters with sabers. Was a horrifying ordeal. My father himself also stayed in Tibet for 13 years.

    • @m.a.118
      @m.a.118 3 роки тому

      @@david-lonewolf8924 Pretty much the point I was alluding to. How the US tends to flip flop. However, also interesting- Didn't the ROC have claims on Mongolia proper while the PRC dropped that claim since it was a Soviet client state? (Note {outer} Mongolia not being part of China)
      However, at least from my study- Tibet broke off from China with other warlord states in 1911 when the Qing Dynasty collapsed and the incumbent KMT was unable, or didn't have the resources to re-conquer Tibet because it was too busy fighting warlords (Northern Expedition, Beiyang army, Japanese pressures in the north), and after 1927 the Communists post Shanghai Massacre. As a result, Tibet was defacto "independent" from 1911-1951 because both the KMT and PRC were too busy in eastern China fighting themselves or the Japanese. Similar sort of story with Xinjiang and White Russian and later Soviet influences in the area until 1949 when the Soviets told members of the former ETR (East Turkestan Republic which was a Soviet puppet like Mongolia) to stand down and accept PRC annexation.

  • @whaleborn
    @whaleborn 3 роки тому +258

    The result can be summarried in simple words; people 's choice.

    • @edwardzhou9668
      @edwardzhou9668 3 роки тому +27

      u do know thousands people fled to taiwan, hongkong, usa and other countries right ? and a ship full with refugees to taiwan sunk near shanghai due to overloading, it was called the chinese version of the titanic. Farmers are easy to fool my friends, people never get to choose.

    • @tlenon2497
      @tlenon2497 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/aHxbUaUY160/v-deo.html

    • @華涵妍
      @華涵妍 3 роки тому +7

      @H L the political killing after korean war and the communist party policy made 30million death the 1989killing and it's cultural ........it's very evil like nazi i can't speak in english

    • @華涵妍
      @華涵妍 3 роки тому +1

      @H L thank you for your message u know i am a senior high student and my english is poor if u can read or use translate software to translate chinese please tell me i will answer your opinion hhhhhhha i respect every deep thinking person best wishes PS:i have an american teacher and two south africa teacher

    • @clacicle
      @clacicle 3 роки тому +3

      @@華涵妍 what the other person was basically saying wad that you should just sweep history under the rug. Forget the horrible atrocities committed by certain people or groups and look at how well things are going now. This is basically standard practice in many authoritarian countries. One of the most important things that you can do, as a high school student, is to become very critical of all information that is presented to you. Where does it come from and who is presenting it are very important questions that need to be asked all the time. Unfortunately, people raised in authoritarian countries or environments have a lot of difficulty with this mainly because they don’t like to be challenged. Being challenged is dangerous and that is why they prefer that everyone just think and say the same things. Make sure you ask your foreign teachers about this. They are not always perfect, but they are probably going to be a bit more open to questions and how to go about questioning others.

  • @shishkababy733
    @shishkababy733 3 роки тому +8

    Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @tsengtanshuy628
    @tsengtanshuy628 3 роки тому +68

    CKS (蒋介石)1946 victory was superficial. Before KMT attacked CPC occupied cities, Mao commanded most cities should have a alternative base in the mountain (Mao learned the lesson from the root cause of PLA long march). So CPC established their base in the prepared mountain right away after they gave up the cities to KMT. Mao called it a strategic retreat. Eventually CKS fell into the same mistakes as the first three defeats by PLA in 1934; The last two was successful due to the help of German consultant and forced CPC to give up their base and started the long march. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. CKS should be blamed for the defeat of China civil war.

    • @tsengtanshuy628
      @tsengtanshuy628 3 роки тому +4

      @The A team The CKS regime was a corrupted government. his military killed civilian and his officials corrupted. Mao let CKS to be at the upper hand in 1946 because he wanted to trick CKS army into his known territory(诱敌深入), then destroy them. CKS and his army became so proud, they totally did not know Mao strategy. How do you explain Mao only used 20,000 soldiers to defeat Hu's 200,000 soldiers. Hu was defeated many times without knowing that his young sectary was the spy for PLA. What a joke!!

    • @tsengtanshuy628
      @tsengtanshuy628 3 роки тому +1

      @The A team I agreed that Lin was Brilliant. Without Lin and other generals Mao could not defeat CKS. But Mao was the the upper and total strategist and his generals only followed Mao commands. It like a basketball NBA game. MJ was supper but without his coach, MJ would not win 6 NBA titles. BTW. During 1946 to 1950 civil war. Lin always kept Mao 10 military strategies outlines in his pocket.

    • @tsengtanshuy628
      @tsengtanshuy628 3 роки тому +5

      @The A team It's not chanchun massacre. It's chanchun circled and people died of hungry. CKS even did awful thing than Mao: CKS opened up the levees on the Yellow River near Zhengzhou in June 1938. And tried to use the flood to stop the Japanese advancement. The flood killed at least 500,000 civilian and made more than 5 million civilian became refugee. Evidence showed the flood attack did not stop the Japan advancement but also gave CPC a chance to convert some refugees to their soldiers.

    • @罗来斌
      @罗来斌 3 роки тому +3

      @The A team 你懂个屁,想要讨论毛泽东你就应该先去多研究共产党党史,别把嘴巴当做屁眼,张开就来。

    • @StevenX-v1r
      @StevenX-v1r 3 роки тому

      The root reason was the brutal political purge in 1921, CKS not only brutally killed a lot of people who believed in communists in that brutal campaign, he also killed almost all those leftists in the Nationalist Party. Since then, The Nationalist party lost all its connection with and support from grassroots in China. On the contrary, CPC has a lot of supports from ordinary Chinese. The brutality of CKS was beyond people's imagination. After Red Army left bases in Jiangxi and other southern bases for the Long March. CKS ordered Nationalist army to kill all adult males and burned down all houses

  • @majorcalvary6515
    @majorcalvary6515 3 роки тому +14

    The film is misleading. Chinese KMT German trained and supplied 88 and 89 divisions were lost in battle of Shanghai in 1937. There were only about 20k troops that later had to defend Japanese invasion army of 100k. Initially Japanese only had a few thousands marines, but they had support of Battle Cruiser Izumo and Air Force Bombers based in Manchukuo. Later Reserves and Kwantung Army from Manchukuo would be transported to Shanghai as invasion main force.
    KMT lost because Truman had no interest defending China, and US took Japan, and China were ceded to the Soviets. Potsdam Conference Stalin demanded Manchurian Rail Roads, Port Arthur, and recognition of Mongolian Independence to separate China and Soviet border. Truman left Chiang to defend China for himself, while Mao and Kim Family were supported by Soviet to take China and Korea.

  • @justinjaymesjoseph5887
    @justinjaymesjoseph5887 3 роки тому +9

    "The Banner of Mao Zedong flutters high!"

    • @lanzgalang5028
      @lanzgalang5028 2 роки тому

      A called a nationalist Chinese a traitor to alies to change to communist and enemy Maoism

  • @stephensorenson5114
    @stephensorenson5114 3 роки тому +6

    this episode of "the twentieth century"with walter cronkite did'nt have the main and end titles with the magnificent theme music!

  • @playergameburix2450
    @playergameburix2450 3 роки тому +7

    6:20
    what a great reversal of the situation

  • @markbenjamin1703
    @markbenjamin1703 3 роки тому +25

    It's always the same voice who narrates

    • @windborne8795
      @windborne8795 3 роки тому

      And I'm glad that it is. There's something nostalgic in that. 👍🏻

  • @yaoypl
    @yaoypl 3 роки тому +29

    Watching an old B/W documentary feels though that this Chinese Civil War was a thing of the past, a history that was a long time ago, right? Well, it is not. The Chinese Civil War has not officially finished yet between mainland China and Tawain. For political reasons, Tawain is still separated from the mainland today. China determines to unify Tawain peacefully but if Tawain keeps refusing, then China will have to finish the unfinished business of the Chinese Civil War to take Tawain back when that day comes the US better stays out of it.

    • @kitnascimento0
      @kitnascimento0 3 роки тому +3

      Sure but wasting money and lives to take back a wortless island is also questionable.
      After all other than emotional "reunify china" mantra there is not much there. Taiwan has nothing:
      no oil, gas, mineral, strategic imporance,...
      The big advantage would be it not be allowed to be used by adversaries other than that not much is gained by taking back Taiwan

    • @P7777-u7r
      @P7777-u7r 3 роки тому +1

      @@kitnascimento0
      The reds would also be adding several million people who politically disagree with the CCP if they took Taiwan.
      Not everyone there is a KMT supporting nationalist but very few seemingly want to be under CCP rule.

    • @maxmeggeneder8935
      @maxmeggeneder8935 3 роки тому +7

      This comment section is full of indoctrinated people who think that China would be so stupid and use force against or even aggressively invade Taiwan.
      This is complete BS and has a lot to do with modern imperialist cold war propaganda and nothing to do with reality. Same goes for so many things first world westerners, especially US citizens, believe about China that are either not true at all or at best half truths.

    • @maxmeggeneder8935
      @maxmeggeneder8935 3 роки тому +2

      @Uncle Ho I agree comrade.

    • @StevenX-v1r
      @StevenX-v1r 3 роки тому +4

      @@kitnascimento0 Taiwan is an island that China cannot afford to lose. The island is too important, anything else are extra.

  • @DanHenryx
    @DanHenryx 3 роки тому +10

    Seeing Walter Chronkite manspreading at the end ... The wait was worth it.

  • @WOOKY27
    @WOOKY27 3 роки тому +33

    If you looked back into history, the red China is different flavor than USSR. Take that advice.

    • @simulify8726
      @simulify8726 3 роки тому +7

      But the red China started on the principles of USSR, and when they formed PRC, they ditched it. But now, China is not communist in any sense, market is capitalist and their is no socialism.

    • @sappy_boi
      @sappy_boi 3 роки тому +10

      @@simulify8726 its a socialist market economy

    • @danielfan598
      @danielfan598 3 роки тому +3

      Well said yet I don't think today's cold war warriors would care

    • @to-tt7fc
      @to-tt7fc 3 роки тому +5

      Every country aligns itself with certain doctrines but will have its own way or flavor to govern and run itself when it becomes strong enough and; therefore, fully independent. Smaller countries may take longer. But with China 's caliber, it is not surprised that it runs its government its own way, different from Russia 's or any other communist country 's in the world.

    • @WOOKY27
      @WOOKY27 3 роки тому +1

      @@to-tt7fc mabye Biden/Harris admin does not have doctrines you will also see weird things happen.

  • @jjc4232
    @jjc4232 3 роки тому +39

    The Chinese people were mostly farmers from the countryside. They have been Bullied by the minority of landlords and city people for centuries. Communist free them from being suppressed and united them to take the country, fairness and lives back for themselves. That's why Mao won, because he gain the support of the Chinese people.

    • @nahtatroll
      @nahtatroll 2 роки тому +6

      And then after that Mao decided to starve 40 million of them.. I guess in the end the Chinese people are always screwed over.

    • @bunnieblu7096
      @bunnieblu7096 2 роки тому +8

      Lol he didn't lol
      Study more about it

    • @cattycorner8
      @cattycorner8 2 роки тому +2

      Not the 3M++ Chinese nationalists that wanted freedom.

    • @taiwandxt6493
      @taiwandxt6493 2 роки тому +5

      You're right, but you know what they say about communism. That shit sounds great, doesn't work.

    • @heheheha5726
      @heheheha5726 2 роки тому +1

      @@taiwandxt6493 but it did work, how do you think China got to where it is today? and no you can't say capitalism introduced by deng, because you don't create productive forces out of nothing, all the material needs were made under mao before the capitalists came in and took advantage of the people and people protested

  • @kangtamimchannel6397
    @kangtamimchannel6397 2 роки тому

    thanks for sharing

  • @tonbopro
    @tonbopro 3 роки тому +12

    Ms Pearl Buck deserves to be honored for her sound judgement of Chinese people

  • @pradeepweerasekara2600
    @pradeepweerasekara2600 3 роки тому +33

    Thanks to great leader and his men, china finally stood on her feet.

    • @coolmansawesome
      @coolmansawesome 3 роки тому +8

      Huh… well to me it seemed like Mao let the KMT take all the losses, then he backstabbed them, caused a famine, killed ethnic minorities, invaded Tibet for no reason then died.

    • @coolmansawesome
      @coolmansawesome 3 роки тому +1

      @Lil Yu Care to disprove me?

    • @nahtatroll
      @nahtatroll 2 роки тому +1

      @Lil Yu China is a capitalist country (communist in name & propaganda only) in the modern day after the reforms by Deng Xiaoping. They have a market economy. For Tibet, you can argue what you want about history but the people of Tibet did not want to be a part of China, and most still do not. You can apply the same argument to any piece of land as well. Italy under the Roman Empire ruled all of Europe for hundreds of years, do they have a right to all of Europe? I don't think so.
      Also the "more than 2000 years ago" thing is just not true, I'm not sure where you got that from. It first became a part of China during the Yuan dynasty (And that was under foreign rule, since the Yuan was under the Mongol Empire) in the mid 13th century and then went on and off becoming a part of Chinese empires and independent when it could. Oh yeah and.. dynasty. Empire. Imperialism. So much for communist "anti-imperialism"

    • @postahundredcommentsbutonl4408
      @postahundredcommentsbutonl4408 11 місяців тому +1

      @@coolmansawesome First, as the leader of Lenin’s religion, Mao Zedong did too many ridiculous and even sinful things. As a Confucian collectivist, I hate him extremely. But his original intention was to pursue fairness. The various atrocities committed by Western colonists in China shaped his extreme character. (For example, he believes that all wealthy people are lackeys of Western colonists)
      Second, Mao Zedong made many mistakes during his time in power, but he did not kill ethnic minorities. On the contrary, as a communist, he spent his whole life attacking Han chauvinism. For example, during his administration, he firmly opposed the implementation of Mandarin in ethnic minority areas. (At the same time, Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore forcibly promoted Mandarin and abolished dialects in Singapore)
      In 1978, the popularity rate of Mandarin in China was only 20%. This has greatly hindered China's economic development.
      Therefore, Mao Zedong's ultra-left policy is completely wrong. But when you say he killed ethnic minorities, isn’t that pure nonsense? You should criticize him for overemphasizing national autonomy and forgetting about national unity.
      Invasion of Tibet? Why do you dare to continue lying under this video?
      Documentaries shot by the United States in 1937/1944/1950 all clearly marked Tibet as Chinese territory.
      Doesn’t the video you see now label Tibet as Chinese territory?

    • @postahundredcommentsbutonl4408
      @postahundredcommentsbutonl4408 11 місяців тому +1

      @@nahtatroll Talking nonsense
      First, how can a country's territory be divided at will? If a country could be divided at will, wouldn't the whole world have wars every day? Where is the dignity of the country and the nation?
      Lincoln is called a great hero in American history. According to you, Lincoln, who stopped the division of America, was a bad guy? Considering that the United States before Lincoln was a confederacy, states originally had the power to withdraw. Lincoln's actions were actually unconstitutional. But Americans still call him a hero. What's more, China has an absolutely unified system of prefectures and counties since ancient times.
      Second, The Yuan emperor converted to Tibetan Buddhism. During the Yuan Dynasty。The Tibetan monks wanted to expand their power and led Tibet to actively join the Yuan Dynasty. From that moment on, Tibet became Chinese territory. Where did the aggression and expansion come from? Tibet became Chinese territory without any war.
      As for whether you are willing or not. Why can you, a Westerner, speak for Tibetans?
      During the rule of the Chinese Kuomintang, the Soviet Union desperately tried to divide China's Xinjiang, Tibet, and Mongolia. The United States firmly opposes this.
      The Communist Party of China came to power, and the United States desperately divided China's Xinjiang and Tibet (Mongolia had already been ceded to the Soviet Union at this time). The Soviet Union stood up and firmly opposed it.
      Please tell me, Do the local people in Tibet want to separate, or do the Western colonists want to separate China??

  • @Word187
    @Word187 3 роки тому +13

    With all historic events. I always wonder: What if...

    • @echowhiskey1368
      @echowhiskey1368 3 роки тому +7

      There is no what if! The first thing they did to the surrendered soldiers was to hold a meeting with them and let them speak up, then one after another they cried how they were underpaid, mistreated and suppressed in the army after they were forced to become KMT soldiers from farmland, they just had enough and had no idea what they were fighting for. The ones who were willing to stay they stayed, the ones who wanted go home they were sent back home with free necessities for the travel. Some of those who overwhelmingly defeated and then remained became ones of the most fearless warriors during Korean War against UN troops. Many ppl lose their purpose to carry on, just get by day by day, but when you start to realize what you are fighting for, you would be fearless too. There are much more details but too little space and time to list, but this piece of history is so damn fascinating when you dig into it.

    • @Mondo762
      @Mondo762 3 роки тому +3

      @@echowhiskey1368 Yes, fighting for a system that will kill millions of your countrymen is wonderful. As many as 55 million that were starved to death during the Great Leap Forward think it was a grand idea. Mao Zedong has more blood on his hands than any person in history.

    • @echowhiskey1368
      @echowhiskey1368 3 роки тому +8

      @@Mondo762 However you ignored the situation that new China was being isolated from the global community with sanctions, and USSR went rogue suddenly pushing to collet debts. It was the people’s representatives (aka, the term senators in the west) voted to pay them the debts, because “Chinese pay their debts”. For example, China had to slaughter 5000ish pigs per day just to send to Russia to pay debts; Russians used the gauges made by metal wires to select the best fruit out which was to collect the debts, and as for the rest of smaller but good apples or pears they just dump them as trashes, which worsened the situation that the people were suffering from shortage of food because of the draught. Well, Chinese pay their debts! Also both Russia and US were threatening to use N-bombs against China, China had to start to store strategic-storage foods to prepare the possible nuclear war. Blaming everything to Mao is misleading from the history which is just another tool of propaganda from the west. And it is always easy for you as a keyboard warrior to criticize a state leader while you have no solutions to uplift such a huge country in that situation to a better future as a whole, maybe you do have your own short-term one with no dignity-bow on your knees to the west one more time so they could tear the country apart and let it slip into a swamp of warlords again, then the west could suck the natural resource out to profit their capitalists just like how they have done to those Mideast and N-African countries. The way of analyzing a certain event of history but considering more factors around it is called dialectical materialism, I guess this philosophy term is considered as an evil thing in the people’s mind like yours, cuz you got brainwashed by the west’s propaganda.

    • @Mondo762
      @Mondo762 3 роки тому +3

      @@echowhiskey1368 You project like crazy and it is all wrong.
      First - I am not a keyboard warrior. As an Engineer in the Merchant Marine I spent most my time on the China coast. This includes 5 ships home ported there. I also lived on Taiwan as a kid. I sailed into 2 wars. How many have you been in? You are the keyboard warrior as you parrot all the crap that has been stuffed in your head. You are a typical lefty/socialist, automatically going into personal attack mode instead of giving an answer. That is because you can't respond to actual facts.

    • @echowhiskey1368
      @echowhiskey1368 3 роки тому +9

      @@Mondo762 How many elders have you talked to? How many villages near northern border have you visited? Over 20 years, as a drilling engineer, working on land rigs, I have been to coasts, woods, deserts, deep mountains, and hundreds of villages where always have some aged survivors from WWII, civil war, Korean War etc. We always would go out to reach out locals and have chats with them while drilling breaks. Okay, I am sorry for calling you that straight away because it is quite annoying that people on internet keep talking about this one-side story again and again. It is good you have some degree of experience, but being in wars doesn’t make people figure out the whole picture or the whole history, which has been proven over thousands of years, that is why it needs more people to record history, either in written or in verbal, then the following generations crossing-check and put the pieces of history together to learn from it. The example I told you came from veterans’ personal experience who we spoke to, which is just another piece of history that you as an outsider engineer or whatever do not know, doesn’t mean the history is not there.
      I can apologize for offending you, but would you do self-criticize for pretending knowing everything? Never mind, unlike me, who used to be pro-west when I was young but gradually changed my mind after I interacted so many average Chinese and westerners, I know so many guys like you would never change your mind, I just post my thought once a while when I get bored, now I feel bored even more, I wish you a good time, peace.

  • @酒門提督-k3b
    @酒門提督-k3b 3 роки тому +7

    In fact, up to now, the map of the Republic of China (Taiwan) also includes Outer Mongolia.

    • @酒門提督-k3b
      @酒門提督-k3b 3 роки тому +1

      @Salvador Vizcarra The US military withdrew from Taiwan as early as January 1, 1979. The nature of Taiwan is different from that of South Korea and Japan.

    • @酒門提督-k3b
      @酒門提督-k3b 3 роки тому +1

      @Salvador Vizcarra The foundation for the establishment of diplomatic relations between China and the United States is that the United States recognizes the one China principle and that Taiwan is a province of China. Otherwise, China and the United States will not establish diplomatic relations.
      Maybe in the future, the United States will break diplomatic relations with China for the sake of Taiwan, but at that time, it doesn't matter to China. Taiwan is the core interest of China, but Taiwan is not the core interest of the United States. I think one day, the United States will use up the last value of Taiwan to exchange something with China. Judging from the current development trend, the PLA has long broken through the first island chain, and the future second island chain and even the PLA's global deployment will not be far away. The significance of Taiwan can not stop the rise of China.

  • @jeremiahshum
    @jeremiahshum 3 роки тому +6

    Hope to see more history war video

  • @vivekraychowdhury4348
    @vivekraychowdhury4348 3 роки тому +1

    Where's the rest of the film?

  • @malmsteen2002
    @malmsteen2002 3 роки тому +18

    2:14 WTF?! He just killed his entire squad with that grenade throw! LOL!

    • @rf2032
      @rf2032 3 роки тому +11

      Could be dummy grenades for training. Still, aren't you supposed to toss those and wait for them to blow up before leaving cover...

    • @jxmai7687
      @jxmai7687 3 роки тому +3

      some of those film was set up.

    • @drlca6601
      @drlca6601 3 роки тому +5

      @@jxmai7687 Most combat footage until the 1960s was staged, and indeed during the 60s. Naturally, due to technical limitations, it was hard to get the footage during heavy firefights.

  • @hakdok649
    @hakdok649 3 роки тому +1

    5:15 i did not know one grenade can destroy a building/house

  • @charsensei878
    @charsensei878 3 роки тому +7

    11:17 ridiculously wrong location of Suchow

    • @blandwinde
      @blandwinde 3 роки тому +1

      Suchow是指徐州,淮海战役。

  • @madcarew.3256
    @madcarew.3256 3 роки тому +9

    Oh for hindsight!!

  • @penlei003I
    @penlei003I 3 роки тому +7

    Mao Zedong wanted to visit the United States in 1946, but because the U.S. congressmen who provided political contributions from the Kuomintang opposed it,
    Mao failed to get in touch with the United States. Witnessing the extreme corruption and incompetence of the Kuomintang and supporting the establishment of good relations with the Chinese Communist Party, all American officers were recalled to the United States and some were even prosecuted. They were replaced by officers who were strongly anti-communist. Mao Zedong was a Communist Party. In fact, his relationship with Stalin was very bad. Stalin looked down on him and thought he was just a peasant with the name of the Communist Party.

  • @luischeng5519
    @luischeng5519 3 роки тому

    Thanks for your

  • @playergameburix2450
    @playergameburix2450 3 роки тому +5

    General Albert Se y de Meyer blinked one eye at the camera 9:05

  • @victorchen3245
    @victorchen3245 3 роки тому

    2:14 What were those guys throwing before charging? Definitely not grenades so that they could conveniently run into the blast radius in the next 3 seconds right?

    • @程11星
      @程11星 3 роки тому

      防御型炮仗.利用地形气势打击敌人的士气。

  • @Highway541
    @Highway541 3 роки тому +8

    Fact- when the Koumintang Nationalist requested help from U.S. but denied, they said it is an internal problem, and today the communist are thorn on their neck

    • @glorych1168
      @glorych1168 3 роки тому +1

      ya
      destiny of China linked to USA. since 1928
      Truman abandoned chiang n roc doomed

    • @sydneycalton5693
      @sydneycalton5693 3 роки тому

      can you predict what the world would be like in the future 50 years?

    • @Highway541
      @Highway541 3 роки тому

      @@sydneycalton5693 I dont know Im not a fortune teller,

  • @gunfreak7.62
    @gunfreak7.62 2 роки тому +4

    That guys horse at 6:50 did him dirty as hell.

    • @lanzgalang5028
      @lanzgalang5028 2 роки тому

      A called a nationalist Chinese a traitor to alies to change to communist and enemy Maoism

  •  3 роки тому +3

    Lịch sử luôn thú vị

  • @steventan3656
    @steventan3656 3 роки тому +7

    In China wars against the Japanese , Komingtang Chiang never WON A SINGLE although with US backing together with US MODERN WAR WEAPONS !
    For MAO under the RED No 8 Army , MAO , Chow EL , Choo Tek n others never lost A Single War since 1937 till end of WW2 .

  • @brighthhh7457
    @brighthhh7457 3 роки тому +21

    Fun fact: the communist had better economy than kmt even though kmt held most of the rich urban area.

  • @willylu88
    @willylu88 3 роки тому +3

    If you think about it, the nationalist didn't want to rule China with the communist, isn't that just the same as what China is now - one party system, and the US was ok with that and was supporting it because the nationalist following the US lead. But because communist was following USSR so they are the bad people. I mean the only reason this "rebellion" started is because people are so poor and being supressed to the edge of their tolerance, and the nationalist didn't even try to improve the situation, that's why so many people join the communist. I live in Canada, and the government is all about supporting the poor people, the more money you make the more the government tax you, and give away your tax money to those that are "poor" isn't tha the same philosophy as the communist in this video? LOL.

  • @watdatdoo
    @watdatdoo 3 роки тому +6

    2:43 Almost a Mission Impossible theme song.

  • @vasilileung2204
    @vasilileung2204 3 роки тому +6

    When the US wants to mediate, fight harder

  • @韩小红-o4p
    @韩小红-o4p 3 роки тому +12

    Chang Kai shen has no talent in war but mao ze dong is a genius of war…

    • @chairmanlebzong5456
      @chairmanlebzong5456 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah Mao Zedong he's also genius for killing 100 million Chinese people in the process

    • @yume6532
      @yume6532 3 роки тому +1

      @@chairmanlebzong5456 CKS would have killed 1 billion Chinese people if he was in power.

    • @chairmanlebzong5456
      @chairmanlebzong5456 3 роки тому +2

      @@yume6532 if Mao Zedong remain in power if he not died
      All china's population is no more
      Luckily he died and china is saved from Mao's reign of terror and economic suffering

    • @yume6532
      @yume6532 3 роки тому +1

      @@chairmanlebzong5456 You don't know that.

    • @chairmanlebzong5456
      @chairmanlebzong5456 3 роки тому +2

      @@yume6532 i always know alwaysssss

  • @ArnoldTeras
    @ArnoldTeras 3 роки тому +1

    Do most Chinese people like this man, Chiang? Was he on the side of good or not?

  • @user-infjqxu
    @user-infjqxu 3 роки тому +8

    5:47
    I like the music

  • @GTVshinichi
    @GTVshinichi 10 місяців тому +1

    so in the real history, the ROC was including Taiwan , Tibet and rest of the mainland. After the civil war, the great china region became the current situation.

  • @军统特务头子戴笠大老
    @军统特务头子戴笠大老 3 роки тому +5

    Our chairman mao is great man in china🇨🇳❤️

  • @bubujibujibuji958
    @bubujibujibuji958 3 роки тому

    Why so late you just post this clip

  • @pgdog888
    @pgdog888 3 роки тому +11

    Thank God. Communist won. If not China today under KMD will be a disaster. My father join the PLA at age 15 to fight against Japan then defended Canton against KMD forces after ww2.

  • @asmodeus0454
    @asmodeus0454 Рік тому +1

    The history of the last phase of the Chinese Civil War 1945-50 is much neglected in tbe West. There was still fighting going on in China in pockets even after Chiang finally withdrew to Taiwan in 1949 and Mao proclaimed the People's Republic on 1 October 1949. This continued until 1950. The KMT Army presence in Yunnan continued for decades.

  • @sastraali5754
    @sastraali5754 3 роки тому +3

    So, never war again.

  • @goldeq8521
    @goldeq8521 3 роки тому +2

    Nice footage,War is not about the weapons it is about the people.Make me think of Afghan13 Aug 2021. Communist soldiers were poorest of the poor they defeat the rich military supported by US Government. Before 1911 the whole China was under a slave and serfs system as Dynasty. just a footnote. Madam Sun Yet sen ( the Father of China) Soong Hang Ling was the vice percident of CCP Chinese Communist Party until she die. and her youngest sister Soong Mei Ling is Chiang Kai Shek's wife . The KMT keep shake the Forbidden City 2000 years of the treasure. My late father was a soldier in China he alway said Chiang was a good men but his relative were corrupted. A weak leader bleed corruped followers. follow the money of the auction house. People tried to stay away from talking about "Corruption" It was and still is a cancer of any fail Government. Communist in China in 1949 (the year I was born )were totally curl about it.

  • @jnseney
    @jnseney 3 роки тому +43

    We should have fought hard against the CCP back then, so sad. Maybe the US could have just supported Chang Kai-shek more materially. But just like now we are underestimating the amount of starvation and death communism brings with it.

    • @Stranded360
      @Stranded360 3 роки тому +9

      Communists run the USA now.

    • @skenzyme81
      @skenzyme81 3 роки тому +6

      The New York Times was running cover for communists. Managed to dismiss every atrocity for their readers. Much hasn’t changed.

    • @MP-zf7kg
      @MP-zf7kg 3 роки тому +9

      @@Stranded360 you're so full of crap.

    • @zhu_zi4533
      @zhu_zi4533 3 роки тому +8

      Because Truman could choose to support PRC instead of ROC, but because of the Korean War, this method became infeasible. It's just international politics. Don't try to use "XXXism" to explain it. You can take these things as the legacy of cold war propaganda

    • @shuttfup2610
      @shuttfup2610 3 роки тому +4

      Truman low key supported the CCP. If China did not turn red then Korean War would never happen.

  • @overdosh
    @overdosh 3 роки тому +1

    why deleted my coment???

  • @helloworld0911
    @helloworld0911 3 роки тому +8

    Observe how Tibet was in China before the Communists!

    • @yanliew4027
      @yanliew4027 3 роки тому +2

      Tibet was in China from early dynasty rule!

  • @kellymontgomery1293
    @kellymontgomery1293 4 місяці тому

    appropriate narrator. Wally was one of them.

  • @jaxciohc253
    @jaxciohc253 3 роки тому +13

    Based CPC

    • @stoggafllik
      @stoggafllik 3 роки тому +3

      Bolshevism isnt based you dunce.

    • @jaxciohc253
      @jaxciohc253 3 роки тому +2

      @@stoggafllik it is, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

  • @dave4342
    @dave4342 5 місяців тому +1

    “Chinese are highly intelligent” they got that right

  • @antonioartuso6958
    @antonioartuso6958 3 роки тому +11

    Congratulations for this and for the other excellent documentaries presented by Periscope Film. They show the clear differences between the capitalist-imperialist line and the socialist-communist line in (1) ideology (vision of the world); (2) politics (ecibinic, political and social program for the workers and the people and for the rulling classes); and (3) organization (economic, political, military, heath, education, ethics). Capitalism-imperialism is a system, a mode of production, a type of ownership of everything essential for life based on individualism, greed, domination of others, etc., while socialism is a system based on the collective ownership of all the means of production (land, tools, machines, means of transportation, etc.). Throughout the history of mankind, one mode of production was always replaced by a better mode of production : from primitive communism (prehistoric societies), to slave based empires of the Antiquity (Egypt, Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome, etc.), to the feudal societies (with nobles and serves), to capitalism. The French and the Industrial revolutions created 2 new classes, the bourgeoisie (the capitalists) and the proletariat (the working class). It is evident that capitalism is concentrating all the machines, the meanes of production in fewer and fewer hands and that the gap between rich bilionnaires and poor workers is becoming explosive. Capitalism is destroying the planed and is destroying itself. Socialism was born with the deep analysis of Marx and Engels, who studied the German philosophy of Hegel, the British political economy (Adam Smith, Ricardo, etc.) and the analysts of the French Revolution (the class analysis, the class struggle, the feudal and the capitalist states, etc.). The Soviet Revolution, the Chinese Revolution, the socialist revolutions and the national liberation revolution throughout the world show that the international working class and the peoples of the world are growingly conscient and actively preparing to put and end to the exploitation of the workers by the capitalists, the oppression of the peoples by the capitalist state, the plunder of the natural resources of the countries by the monopolies, the constant crisis (economic, political, social, ecological, hunger, humanitarian crises due to the capitalist planning of the world economy for profit instead of the socialist planning of the economy to serve the people), the growing fascism and the permanent imperialist wars. For a united front against fascism and war - Canada - pueblo1917@gmail.com

    • @cattycorner8
      @cattycorner8 2 роки тому +1

      LOL Let me guess...you are a Communist Your education/programming is evident. You have been seriously misled. Capitalism is the most equitable of all systems. It allows mankind to reach heights not possible under Socialist regimes, which in the name of "equity" hold the masses down in callow mediocrity. It is as unnatural as it is disastrous.

    • @ninamartin1084
      @ninamartin1084 2 роки тому +1

      Only 1 correction to your excellent analysis, which is that capitalism is an economic system, not a political one. In fact communism relies on centralised capitalism. There are only 2 questions arising - which system is most compatible with human nature without recourse to repression and totalitarianism, and which system will allow for the continued survival of the vast and poorly understood web of life on this beautiful planet of ours on which all human life depends.

    • @cattycorner8
      @cattycorner8 2 роки тому +1

      @@ninamartin1084 What an intelligent response. Please tell me you are busy influencing young minds somewhere within our schools!

  • @hello-sn6vp
    @hello-sn6vp 3 роки тому

    11:08,Suchow,苏州?Wrong location.

  • @peterchung2262
    @peterchung2262 3 роки тому +12

    6:48 i feel bad for that dude who fell off its horse

    • @yooo1423
      @yooo1423 2 роки тому

      I uh laughed ... i am sorry ..

  • @qianjinqian5461
    @qianjinqian5461 3 роки тому

    please 1080p HD.

    • @skotskot3379
      @skotskot3379 3 роки тому +1

      you gotta be kidding. 1080p in 1950

  • @richardea4223
    @richardea4223 3 роки тому +8

    This is an object lesson for our second Civil War. Lock and load, guys, we are in for a rough ride.😎

    • @Amadeus-ni3et
      @Amadeus-ni3et 3 роки тому +9

      Vietnam, Korea, Bay of Pigs, etc. Just sending more young men to their deaths just because people run their country in a way you don't agree with.

    • @richardea4223
      @richardea4223 3 роки тому +1

      @@Amadeus-ni3et Maybe you are the problem, commie.😎

    • @AussieFlavio
      @AussieFlavio 3 роки тому

      @@Amadeus-ni3et The problem with the communist way of running your country is that they can't keep it to their own countries.
      Nobody would mind Cuba being a concentration camp if they didn't export their dogma of hatred to anywhere in the world that they can.
      We'd go there, buy their women for a bar of soap as we always do, and leave them to their little delusions. The problem starts when they fund and support leftist terrorists across South America and Africa.
      And that is just the case of Cuba.

    • @P7777-u7r
      @P7777-u7r 3 роки тому +7

      A second american civil war would look more like the breakup of yugoslavia than the chinese civil war.
      There would be no USA as we know it afterward and no real winner just a bunch of smaller countries who all hate eachother.

    • @Amadeus-ni3et
      @Amadeus-ni3et 3 роки тому +7

      @@AussieFlavio the same way the us overthrows any democratically elected leaders for their interests?

  • @TheLoyalOfficer
    @TheLoyalOfficer 3 роки тому +2

    Too much skipping.

  • @joelwashington3276
    @joelwashington3276 3 роки тому +1

    1. That was XüZhou(Xüchow), not SuZhou(Suchow) ‼ (11:08)
    2. Formosa was not an "independent island " SINCE THE MING DYNASTY ‼ (15:40)

  • @JosephOccenoBFH
    @JosephOccenoBFH 3 роки тому +9

    Long live Chang Kai Shek !!
    Long live Taiwan !! 🇹🇼

    • @Williamzhao1100
      @Williamzhao1100 3 роки тому +1

      Go vote for you pathetic KMT party, 烂泥扶不上墙的政党,正好配烂泥扶不上墙的台湾

  • @suryateja1713
    @suryateja1713 3 роки тому +1

    And here it goes 14:55

  • @roberthorning8768
    @roberthorning8768 3 роки тому +4

    Americans are so ignorant of Chinese history, we think it started in 1949 and Mao was the “first Emperor.” Worse yet, we think Chiang was the good guy.

    • @taiwandxt6493
      @taiwandxt6493 2 роки тому

      I mean, in hindsight, can you blame us in the U.S? Mao's collectivist farming policies and forcing regular people to make steel on their properties killed 60-80 million people from famine and other causes. In contrast, while Chiang still killed millions, he didn't kill NEARLY as many as Mao did. Couple that with the anti-communist education system we have here in the U.S, and it's pretty damn easy, albeit a low bar, to call Chiang a saint in comparison to Mao.

  • @cfcf-th8sx
    @cfcf-th8sx Рік тому

    有没有湖北天门人

  • @littledovecitydust
    @littledovecitydust 3 роки тому +4

    The map missed a lot of border areas belonging to China.

    • @勝利組麥氏
      @勝利組麥氏 3 роки тому +1

      yes , the area should belongs to (roc) republic of china (sun yat sen (nation's father who overthrown monarchy established it insist on democracy) , now 9602130 km2 should not owned by c.c.c.c.c.c..cp.. but roc

    • @littledovecitydust
      @littledovecitydust 3 роки тому

      @@勝利組麥氏 did you even study history? The first government of the Republic of China was not formed by Sun, but by Yuan shikai. The last emperor of Qing specifically wrote his abdication letter to ask Yuan to form a republic. Sun was a revolutionary, but he was never the leader of the ROC. The territorial claims passed from the ROC to the PRC in 1949, when the Nanjing government gave up the mainland and retreated to Taiwan.

    • @勝利組麥氏
      @勝利組麥氏 3 роки тому +1

      @@littledovecitydust wtf!don't bend the history.the fact is that 1912 sun yat sen over thrown qing dynasty.
      he was elected to be "president "(sudden)(form a unofficial Gov roc )
      however the yun has too large of military power to over throw qing, then exchange of
      president place to yuen , to overthrown qing , however he become a' king' , under whole china ,s force , the yuen was over thrown. we all believe roc is the real china.

    • @littledovecitydust
      @littledovecitydust 3 роки тому +3

      @@勝利組麥氏 you're brainwashed fake propaganda. Sun was never the president, he was only elected by a group of forty people as the interim president, who had no capital or power. Yuan was the true legitimate successor to Puyi, the last emperor of China. The ROC lasted from 1912 to 1949, and was replaced by the PRC. You need to read some real history books.

  • @hellclub8501
    @hellclub8501 3 роки тому +1

    4:22 what they say

  •  3 роки тому +2

    CCP was prompted up by USSR, while KMT was abandoned by USA.
    14:39 the communists were wearing Japanese helmets. They had most of the arms of the Kwantung Army after Japan’s surrender. The Communists also had tremendous Soviet heavy artillery which the Kuomintang utterly lacked. Equipment and effective usage of it made the decisive difference, not the mystical guerrilla warfare.
    17:40 the gentleman’s advice to Truman was spot-on. Unfortunately, KMT supported Truman’s opponent in Truman’s re-election, and that made a personal enemy out of Truman.

    • @1271108227
      @1271108227 3 роки тому

      Taiwan still will be abandoned by USA.

    • @jagdpanther2224
      @jagdpanther2224 2 роки тому

      Chiang was very corrupted and the Nationalist party was a total chaos, he deserves to be kicked out of China!

  • @NeostormXLMAX
    @NeostormXLMAX 2 роки тому

    5:07 wtf are you sure that is the same area? that is a lot of camels for china.

  • @记住天安门广场
    @记住天安门广场 3 роки тому +8

    This video is inaccurate. Japan was not a common enemy of the Kuomintang and the Communist. Japan was exactly what the Communist needed to defeat the Kuomintang and they were aware of this. After the Japanese defeated the Kuomintang it left China to be occupied by the communist. The Communist did not fight side by side with the Kuomintang. The communist set in the background just like the cowards they have always been.

    • @屠皇-b9g
      @屠皇-b9g 3 роки тому +6

      你的发言毫无依据,让人觉得可笑,共产党在抗日战争时期加入国民党,改名第八陆军。你所说的共产党不抗日反而是国民党所做的·,国民党不抵抗丢了东北,等到日本人打倒首都南京他们才仓促反抗。

    • @cliffa2901
      @cliffa2901 3 роки тому +5

      They weren't cowardly when they kicked your arses in Korea.
      And as a side note.
      The Korean war was a proxy war between the US and the Soviet union . You both started it china finished it.

  • @steveweinstein3222
    @steveweinstein3222 3 роки тому +1

    Anyone who wants to know the real story should read Barbara Tuchman's Stillwell and the American Experience in China.

    • @majorcalvary6515
      @majorcalvary6515 3 роки тому

      Garbage. Barbara Tuchman never been to China. She the most overrated Pullizer writer. Stilwell was the worst American General in WW2. Why did Truman quash General Wedemeyers China paper? Read a book China Story by Freda Utley, who was highly praised by President Reagan. Freda lived in Soviet Union and China.

    • @steveweinstein3222
      @steveweinstein3222 3 роки тому

      @@majorcalvary6515 She was grew up in China and spent several decades there.

    • @steveweinstein3222
      @steveweinstein3222 3 роки тому

      @@majorcalvary6515 She grew up there. Her parents were missionaries. I swear, some of the comments I read here just boggle the mind with their ignorance.

  • @yohananlau1620
    @yohananlau1620 3 роки тому +9

    Damn that ROC have lose this battle!

    • @勝利組麥氏
      @勝利組麥氏 3 роки тому +5

      a few of people knows that "George C. Marshall "only wants ccp to negotiate with real china, but without knowing the property of ccp.. lossing the best time to kill mao...

    • @ophirbactrius8285
      @ophirbactrius8285 3 роки тому

      Yeah its only from your deluded dirty minded!

    • @ophirbactrius8285
      @ophirbactrius8285 3 роки тому

      @Salvador Vizcarra dont worry i didn't meant it to you ma bruh, its for other person. 🙂✌️

  • @simonsimon2888
    @simonsimon2888 3 роки тому

    Capitalism or Communism? The true 'political father' of China is Sun Yat Sen. Upon his death, the two brothers fought over the control of China. MaoZedong began the long march to form the farmer's regime against Chiang Kai Shek's pro-American army. Finally, Generalisimo Chiang defeated and escaped to Taiwan with the Sun's sisters. At last, China became a Communist country in 1949 when every foreign properties were 'nationalised' resulting a close door to the outside world. Hence, self isolation and trade embargo began when the Communist Chinese had to grow their own foods resulting in an Agarian China. She wrote the book 'Love Is A Many Splendid Things' by Pearl L. Buck. Till today, the question remained 'Why are the pro-Communist generations of 'the little red book' keep leaving China after opening to the world in 1979. Strange..indeed!

  • @JulesDuan
    @JulesDuan 7 місяців тому +3

    This video makes me cry 😭. How did we lose the war? How country my country 🇹🇼 be occupied by communist? Long live republic of china 🇹🇼.

    • @lizi1936
      @lizi1936 7 місяців тому

      Most self aware and informed nationalist

    • @KingofKingsYT-s4o
      @KingofKingsYT-s4o 3 місяці тому

      Peoples republic of China 🇨🇳is true China Taiwan is just a puppet pet of USA😂😂😂

  • @deepalib3096
    @deepalib3096 3 роки тому

    Nice to know about China's civil war

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 Рік тому +4

    TAIWAN # 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Basedlocation
      @Basedlocation Рік тому +2

      HAIL THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC 🚩💪

    • @KingofKingsYT-s4o
      @KingofKingsYT-s4o 3 місяці тому

      Peoples republic of China 🇨🇳 is true China Tiwan is just ka puppet pet of USA 😂😂😂

  • @CrisisMoon7
    @CrisisMoon7 Рік тому

    6:49 someone fell off their horse
    20:01 she has her own museum

  • @CCP_zhongguo_sai_B
    @CCP_zhongguo_sai_B 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks to the Brits and the Portuguese, Hong Kong and Macau were not part of their game.

  • @davebryan8416
    @davebryan8416 3 роки тому

    I wish the MST3K crew was sitting at the bottom of the screen

  • @JackY-pu5nh
    @JackY-pu5nh 3 роки тому +29

    Let’s be honest, without those peasants and workers, and the PLA, there wouldn’t be a wealthy and independent China today.

    • @bakedhawaii
      @bakedhawaii 3 роки тому +18

      *a murderous, genocidal, and corrupt China which censors the people, put them in poverty, killing for organs and money, taking over territory in the South China Sea and harassing fishermen in the area.

    • @JackY-pu5nh
      @JackY-pu5nh 3 роки тому +12

      @@bakedhawaii look at you, a MSM fed fish

    • @bakedhawaii
      @bakedhawaii 3 роки тому +2

      @@JackY-pu5nh okay wumao

    • @makeracistsafraidagain
      @makeracistsafraidagain 3 роки тому +7

      Institutionalized MURDER for cash

    • @makeracistsafraidagain
      @makeracistsafraidagain 3 роки тому +5

      @@JackY-pu5nh is a Dangerous Wacko

  • @brianlam1663
    @brianlam1663 2 роки тому

    This sounds like Whaaaalt'er Cronkite!!!