I still feel guilty. I would never go back to veganism is totally unhealthy but I cannot stop thinking about dead animals. I know my body needs meat. I am so happy now but my mind is still affected by the brain washing
I’m not vegetarian, no one brainwashed us in our household or culture, we even eat certain ethnic dishes raw, but the guilt of thinking we’re consuming those beautiful innocent creatures is a hard pill to swallow. Watching farmers raise them, my mind goes straight to thinking I can’t eat them. So delicious but talk about the extreme guilt. 😩😭😭
How are you now plz reply - I am also stuck in my mind logical mind said eat meat because vegetarian or vegan killing more than meat eaters but my emotional mind said plz don't eat, what to do plz help me I am ruminating this from months what I do plz help me how I get over this
I’ve loved animals my entire life and so I remember feeling guilty about eating them even as a very small child. I’ve alternated between vegetarianism, veganism and eating meat my entire life. Even now, I can’t get past the guilt. Caring deeply for an animal and then eating it never sits well with me, but I go through the same thing where my body craves it after some time. Perhaps the guilt is our humanity and compassion so that we respect and appreciate the animals lives. Wild game is absolutely the most “ethical” way to consume meat, but it’s not accessible for most of us, unfortunately. I live in Los Angeles. No idea how I would even access wild game. Also, a lot of vegetable agriculture (which kills animals) is to support the feeding of livestock. Anyway, good video. I’ve taught my kids the same thing about the circle of life and about the trees as well.
I just quit veganism and I am feeling so guilty. I was in the grocery for like 2 hrs today trying to figure out what to do. I tried chicken yesterday for the first time in ten years, it was incredible. But I am afraid to cook it. Thanks for your video.
Cows aren’t in cages. Like ever. They live their lives on pasture until the last 2 months of their life where they go to a feed lot to eat corn/ grain and fatten up. You can buy grass fed and grass finished beef and that completely eliminates that. They live their entire lives as a cow would like to, grazing grass outside.
Guilt? When i found out the truth about veganism i ate a steak and cried because it was soooooo good. Then i would give the chicken bones the good succ .
I have arfid it's an eating disorder that causes me to be very sensitive to taste and smell, this even makes me afraid of trying out new things... Seeing literally half of my friends becoming vegetarian/vegan just makes me suffer...
Ik this was 2 years ago but I feel so guilty. I have been criticized by multiple vegans, which has done nothing but harm to my already depleting mental health. I have OCD (at least, I diagnosed with traits of OCD) so criticism is a horrible thing for me to take in - literally horrible, I'm still obsessing over a comment a vegan made over a month ago - it puts me off a lot of things and I feel selfish for simply not wanting to be vegan. Apparently you can just supplement the sources you need to be happy - as in take meds. It makes me wonder if I'm just stubborn or in the wrong because veganism or vegetarianism is "so easy" in modern society. I have a goal to change my weight and build a better physique but I feel like this whole "be vegan" thing is going to put me off.
If you have OCD/Autism/whatever other neurological quirk.. the best thing you can do is accept yourself and realize people who don't have a brain like yours have no business telling you what to do or how to live. They have no conception of what it's like to live in your brain. The cost of being accepted by society is quite high for people like us, and i was lucky enough to learn at a young age that that cost wasn't worth it. I hope somehow you find yourself accepting how weird you are and being okay with it. As well as accepting what your body requires.
Hi friend! The vegans who are saying these things to you are doing so because they feel angry and upset. They feel that they know something that everyone else needs to know, and that they are superior because they make the decision to be vegan. I know because I was one for years, even did activism for PETA. I am a meditation teacher who also struggles with OCD, and used to really obsess about what others thought of me and said. If I can give my unwarranted advise (what worked for me as an individual), I would say to put your hands on your chest/stomach (or your lap if that is uncomfortable), take a deep breath all the way in and all the way out, and tell yourself that what others say does not matter. "I am solely in control of how I feel and what decisions I make." I find that self-empowerment does wonders. There is no logical reason to obsess over stressful things, this just enforces negative neural networks to form. OCD wants you to think that obsessing is logical, but what is logical is to invite peace into our storms. We have the power to heal our minds and our thoughts ♥ Nobody has any business telling us what to do and judging us, but we are also responsible for how we react to those judgments. It is a hard thing to accept but it actually can liberate us from suffering.
How are you now plz reply - I am also stuck in my mind logical mind said eat meat because vegetarian or vegan killing more than meat eaters but my emotional mind said plz don't eat, what to do plz help me I am ruminating this from months what I do plz help me how I get over this
@@thesoundsofearth4454 Plz reply - I am also stuck in my mind logical mind said eat meat because vegetarian or vegan killing more than meat eaters but my emotional mind said plz don't eat, what to do plz help me I am ruminating this from months what I do plz help me how I get over this because of this I am not able live my life and always thinking about animals plz sir help me I am from India , my English is poor but I try plz help me
@@vivekkumarsingh481 Been there, Im getting better fortunately. What is helping me more than anything right now is this quote: "You are not the voice in your mind, you are the one listening". Why should we be the only omnivore, or even species in general, to care about what we eat? Why are we the only species that worries about animals we have no interaction with? Why should we break the food chain, risk our health, or stop prioritizing ourselves when we all know the guy down the street is still going to enjoy his fry up every morning? I know its hard to stop thinking about it. I reccomend talking to a councelor or researching some OCD coping techniques (i lile box breathing and meditation) if its beginning to affect your diet or daily life.
I watched those factory , farming documentary in 2014,and I turned into vegan the cold turkey way (is that how people say ?) and I had been vegan for almost 4 years until I started having severe stomach pain the last half of year of a bit longer. I have been training since 2012 and I make sure I have enough protein. In Taiwan, our vegan meat meat is usually made with soybean. My traditional doctor told me the soybean was probably a bit reason causing those bad pain. Since I had been having bad digestive system, soybean made it more difficult and it made my stomach bloated. Doctor knew I was vegan so he only slowly suggested me eating some eggs first due to worrying about my health and the fact I care about how much protein I eat. It got better but still I need a lot of “vegetarian meat”. He then suggested some meat, I asked if eating seafood is okay/enough, I just couldn’t get over the guilt yet. I cried talking with my partner about needing to eat seafood. Have been pescatarian since then. Recently thought I was a bit more ready and thought I might try a bite, (not yet able to feel comfortable to purchase proactively, usually family or partner share a bit to let me try.) Yesterday, first time I ate a whole grid chicken leg after 6 years, the taste wasn’t as scary as other types I have tried recently. It was a good one. But now I felt extremely guilt that eating meat , killing them for my appetite. I can’t handle the guilt of enjoying the flavor(though I was a hugeeeee meat eater before turning vegan). I feel awful to cause the animals pain..... I even thinking about talking to my psychiatrist about this 😭
I am sorry that propaganda affected you so much. I wish you the best in working through that. You should consider this.. every field where vegetables are grown has insects and animals trying to eat the vegetables. So growing vegetables requires killing animals and insects constantly.. thousands of small animals, especially mice are killed during harvesting. Research 'crop deaths' and you will see what i mean. So.. there is not really a better moral choice.
I was always naturally anti meat as a child too but that's because my mom would always cook meat in soybean oil and soybean oil tastes disgusting to me.
I can really relate to your conflicting moral dilemma yet understanding the biological implications of trying to live without animal protein. In the big picture, it's kind of all tied into the "God" question...is life merely biological, do animals have an internal life like humans, etc, etc. Maybe all of this is connected for you as well?
Hi Robin, i consider myself sort of a Buddhist so the question is even more complicated for me. I just understand that i thrive when i eat meat, and other animals with a similar digestive system as us also do the best when they are eating what evolution has nudged them into the direction of eating too. On one hand i don't want to kill things, on the other hand, i'd be stupid if i slowly killed myself by denying what my body needs. I understand that animals have consciousness and feelings just like we do, but it's necessary to be cruel sometimes - that's how nature works. This is why i eat mostly cow, because i can kill only 2 cows a year. It's really the best you can do, morally.
@@neptronix I also feel much better when I'm consuming meat/animal protein. Yous video made me think in terms of the sheer numbers of agriculture cultivation animal deaths vs meat farming death, Good point! Did you know the Dali Lama had to start eating meat because of health issues?
@@robinrevell5873 I'm glad i got you thinking. I didn't know that about the Dalai Lama eating meat, so now you've got me thinking ( and googling ) too. Cheers!!
How are you now plz reply - I am also stuck in my mind logical mind said eat meat because vegetarian or vegan killing more than meat eaters but my emotional mind said plz don't eat, what to do plz help me I am ruminating this from months what I do plz help me how I get over this
I'm watching now and I love the title. Thank you so much for coming out with this video, I will add it to my ex vegan playlist. I made a whole vid on anthropomorphism and Disney is king of this. NO SUCH THING AS VEGETARIAN OR VEGAN
I would like to not eat meat, but it tastes good and I'm still growing. Every time I see anything to do with factory farming I can't stop crying, but I've failed every time I've tried to stop eating it. I feel so guilty.
Those videos are designed to make you feel guilty for fulfilling your body's needs. They highlight the worst aspects of what happens in factory farms, and present it as if this is every day stuff. It's emotional manipulation, or we could say propaganda. You should check out the channel 'anti vegan' here on youtube. She has some good talks about how she went from a vegan to a meat eater also. sv3rige and daphnereloaded can also be good for a contrarian opinion you might want to consider.
Animals can eat grass, not just vegetables therefore u are not killing them if you harvest the vegetables. I think people who go back to eating animal are not truly committed. I used to eat meat but i have no desire to watch an animal suffer and die for my own satisfaction. Anyway your argument and comparion is weak.
People who go back have realised that vegan diet sucks the life out of them, look at the long term 10+ years vegans. Every single person I’ve known from my vegan days are no longer that, and they’re good chef, healthy, rich, got enough plant protein, for years and had to realise it is not great of living. And this is coming from me, ex vegan, vegetarian for 7 years. Your comment is typical, another aggressive comment, the type why people avoid vegans..
I still feel guilty. I would never go back to veganism is totally unhealthy but I cannot stop thinking about dead animals. I know my body needs meat. I am so happy now but my mind is still affected by the brain washing
It takes time to respect yourself for what you are after religious indoctrinations like that! best wishes.
I’m not vegetarian, no one brainwashed us in our household or culture, we even eat certain ethnic dishes raw, but the guilt of thinking we’re consuming those beautiful innocent creatures is a hard pill to swallow. Watching farmers raise them, my mind goes straight to thinking I can’t eat them. So delicious but talk about the extreme guilt. 😩😭😭
I feel same hopefully
It will pass
How are you now plz reply -
I am also stuck in my mind logical mind said eat meat because vegetarian or vegan killing more than meat eaters but my emotional mind said plz don't eat, what to do plz help me I am ruminating this from months what I do plz help me how I get over this
I’ve loved animals my entire life and so I remember feeling guilty about eating them even as a very small child. I’ve alternated between vegetarianism, veganism and eating meat my entire life. Even now, I can’t get past the guilt. Caring deeply for an animal and then eating it never sits well with me, but I go through the same thing where my body craves it after some time. Perhaps the guilt is our humanity and compassion so that we respect and appreciate the animals lives.
Wild game is absolutely the most “ethical” way to consume meat, but it’s not accessible for most of us, unfortunately. I live in Los Angeles. No idea how I would even access wild game.
Also, a lot of vegetable agriculture (which kills animals) is to support the feeding of livestock.
Anyway, good video. I’ve taught my kids the same thing about the circle of life and about the trees as well.
I just quit veganism and I am feeling so guilty. I was in the grocery for like 2 hrs today trying to figure out what to do. I tried chicken yesterday for the first time in ten years, it was incredible. But I am afraid to cook it. Thanks for your video.
I know the feeling. Ex vegan for life. 💕👍
Cows aren’t in cages. Like ever. They live their lives on pasture until the last 2 months of their life where they go to a feed lot to eat corn/ grain and fatten up. You can buy grass fed and grass finished beef and that completely eliminates that. They live their entire lives as a cow would like to, grazing grass outside.
Thank you for this video. Feeling the guilt of starting eating meat exclusively . Hopefully this too shall pass.
Hope the video was of help!
I was vegan for 8 years...8 month out now. Quite the experience. 😳
You might dig my own videos actually
Congrats!
I'll check 'em out!
Guilt? When i found out the truth about veganism i ate a steak and cried because it was soooooo good. Then i would give the chicken bones the good succ .
lol
tomie 22 😂
I have arfid it's an eating disorder that causes me to be very sensitive to taste and smell, this even makes me afraid of trying out new things...
Seeing literally half of my friends becoming vegetarian/vegan just makes me suffer...
Ik this was 2 years ago but I feel so guilty. I have been criticized by multiple vegans, which has done nothing but harm to my already depleting mental health. I have OCD (at least, I diagnosed with traits of OCD) so criticism is a horrible thing for me to take in - literally horrible, I'm still obsessing over a comment a vegan made over a month ago - it puts me off a lot of things and I feel selfish for simply not wanting to be vegan. Apparently you can just supplement the sources you need to be happy - as in take meds. It makes me wonder if I'm just stubborn or in the wrong because veganism or vegetarianism is "so easy" in modern society. I have a goal to change my weight and build a better physique but I feel like this whole "be vegan" thing is going to put me off.
If you have OCD/Autism/whatever other neurological quirk.. the best thing you can do is accept yourself and realize people who don't have a brain like yours have no business telling you what to do or how to live. They have no conception of what it's like to live in your brain.
The cost of being accepted by society is quite high for people like us, and i was lucky enough to learn at a young age that that cost wasn't worth it.
I hope somehow you find yourself accepting how weird you are and being okay with it. As well as accepting what your body requires.
Hi friend! The vegans who are saying these things to you are doing so because they feel angry and upset. They feel that they know something that everyone else needs to know, and that they are superior because they make the decision to be vegan. I know because I was one for years, even did activism for PETA. I am a meditation teacher who also struggles with OCD, and used to really obsess about what others thought of me and said. If I can give my unwarranted advise (what worked for me as an individual), I would say to put your hands on your chest/stomach (or your lap if that is uncomfortable), take a deep breath all the way in and all the way out, and tell yourself that what others say does not matter. "I am solely in control of how I feel and what decisions I make." I find that self-empowerment does wonders. There is no logical reason to obsess over stressful things, this just enforces negative neural networks to form. OCD wants you to think that obsessing is logical, but what is logical is to invite peace into our storms. We have the power to heal our minds and our thoughts ♥ Nobody has any business telling us what to do and judging us, but we are also responsible for how we react to those judgments. It is a hard thing to accept but it actually can liberate us from suffering.
How are you now plz reply -
I am also stuck in my mind logical mind said eat meat because vegetarian or vegan killing more than meat eaters but my emotional mind said plz don't eat, what to do plz help me I am ruminating this from months what I do plz help me how I get over this
@@thesoundsofearth4454 Plz reply -
I am also stuck in my mind logical mind said eat meat because vegetarian or vegan killing more than meat eaters but my emotional mind said plz don't eat, what to do plz help me I am ruminating this from months what I do plz help me how I get over this because of this I am not able live my life and always thinking about animals plz sir help me I am from India , my English is poor but I try plz help me
@@vivekkumarsingh481 Been there, Im getting better fortunately. What is helping me more than anything right now is this quote: "You are not the voice in your mind, you are the one listening". Why should we be the only omnivore, or even species in general, to care about what we eat? Why are we the only species that worries about animals we have no interaction with? Why should we break the food chain, risk our health, or stop prioritizing ourselves when we all know the guy down the street is still going to enjoy his fry up every morning?
I know its hard to stop thinking about it. I reccomend talking to a councelor or researching some OCD coping techniques (i lile box breathing and meditation) if its beginning to affect your diet or daily life.
I watched those factory , farming documentary in 2014,and I turned into vegan the cold turkey way (is that how people say ?) and I had been vegan for almost 4 years until I started having severe stomach pain the last half of year of a bit longer. I have been training since 2012 and I make sure I have enough protein. In Taiwan, our vegan meat meat is usually made with soybean. My traditional doctor told me the soybean was probably a bit reason causing those bad pain. Since I had been having bad digestive system, soybean made it more difficult and it made my stomach bloated. Doctor knew I was vegan so he only slowly suggested me eating some eggs first due to worrying about my health and the fact I care about how much protein I eat. It got better but still I need a lot of “vegetarian meat”. He then suggested some meat, I asked if eating seafood is okay/enough, I just couldn’t get over the guilt yet. I cried talking with my partner about needing to eat seafood. Have been pescatarian since then. Recently thought I was a bit more ready and thought I might try a bite, (not yet able to feel comfortable to purchase proactively, usually family or partner share a bit to let me try.) Yesterday, first time I ate a whole grid chicken leg after 6 years, the taste wasn’t as scary as other types I have tried recently. It was a good one. But now I felt extremely guilt that eating meat , killing them for my appetite. I can’t handle the guilt of enjoying the flavor(though I was a hugeeeee meat eater before turning vegan).
I feel awful to cause the animals pain.....
I even thinking about talking to my psychiatrist about this 😭
I am sorry that propaganda affected you so much. I wish you the best in working through that.
You should consider this.. every field where vegetables are grown has insects and animals trying to eat the vegetables. So growing vegetables requires killing animals and insects constantly.. thousands of small animals, especially mice are killed during harvesting.
Research 'crop deaths' and you will see what i mean.
So.. there is not really a better moral choice.
I was always naturally anti meat as a child too but that's because my mom would always cook meat in soybean oil and soybean oil tastes disgusting to me.
soybean oil.. wtf.. was she cooking lean meats because saturated fat was scary? this sounds like some of the 1980's thinking i was exposed to..
Did you ever try to consume just fruits some sort leafy greens and small amounts of nuts/seeds aka frugivore?
That's even more nutrient deficient, so no.
I still eat leafy greens while on keto, great stuff.
I can really relate to your conflicting moral dilemma yet understanding the biological implications of trying to live without animal protein. In the big picture, it's kind of all tied into the "God" question...is life merely biological, do animals have an internal life like humans, etc, etc. Maybe all of this is connected for you as well?
Hi Robin, i consider myself sort of a Buddhist so the question is even more complicated for me. I just understand that i thrive when i eat meat, and other animals with a similar digestive system as us also do the best when they are eating what evolution has nudged them into the direction of eating too.
On one hand i don't want to kill things, on the other hand, i'd be stupid if i slowly killed myself by denying what my body needs. I understand that animals have consciousness and feelings just like we do, but it's necessary to be cruel sometimes - that's how nature works. This is why i eat mostly cow, because i can kill only 2 cows a year. It's really the best you can do, morally.
@@neptronix I also feel much better when I'm consuming meat/animal protein. Yous video made me think in terms of the sheer numbers of agriculture cultivation animal deaths vs meat farming death, Good point! Did you know the Dali Lama had to start eating meat because of health issues?
@@robinrevell5873 I'm glad i got you thinking. I didn't know that about the Dalai Lama eating meat, so now you've got me thinking ( and googling ) too. Cheers!!
How are you now plz reply -
I am also stuck in my mind logical mind said eat meat because vegetarian or vegan killing more than meat eaters but my emotional mind said plz don't eat, what to do plz help me I am ruminating this from months what I do plz help me how I get over this
I'm watching now and I love the title. Thank you so much for coming out with this video, I will add it to my ex vegan playlist. I made a whole vid on anthropomorphism and Disney is king of this. NO SUCH THING AS VEGETARIAN OR VEGAN
Oh wow, i'll make sure to check out your channel as well. Glad you enjoyed the vid!
@@neptronix Great content love your channel!
I would like to not eat meat, but it tastes good and I'm still growing. Every time I see anything to do with factory farming I can't stop crying, but I've failed every time I've tried to stop eating it. I feel so guilty.
Those videos are designed to make you feel guilty for fulfilling your body's needs. They highlight the worst aspects of what happens in factory farms, and present it as if this is every day stuff. It's emotional manipulation, or we could say propaganda.
You should check out the channel 'anti vegan' here on youtube. She has some good talks about how she went from a vegan to a meat eater also.
sv3rige and daphnereloaded can also be good for a contrarian opinion you might want to consider.
Thanks for sharing, interesting perspectives!
Thank you for the video!
Very well explained 👌🏾
Thanks ^_^
Vegan diet save me from obesity.❤
what are cows feed? plants, grown on land, farms. very false argument.
Animals can eat grass, not just vegetables therefore u are not killing them if you harvest the vegetables. I think people who go back to eating animal are not truly committed. I used to eat meat but i have no desire to watch an animal suffer and die for my own satisfaction. Anyway your argument and comparion is weak.
People who go back have realised that vegan diet sucks the life out of them, look at the long term 10+ years vegans. Every single person I’ve known from my vegan days are no longer that, and they’re good chef, healthy, rich, got enough plant protein, for years and had to realise it is not great of living.
And this is coming from me, ex vegan, vegetarian for 7 years. Your comment is typical, another aggressive comment, the type why people avoid vegans..
@@empty_seat but what to get kid of the guilt
@@gunahawk6893 what?
@@empty_seat but how to get kid of the guilt while eating non veg
@@gunahawk6893 it’ll pass with time it also passed for me. Just give it time and keep in mind that you need it