Dji Osmo Pocket 3 - 6 Months Later - The Pros and Cons
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EDIT:
To clarify, what i was trying to say for Con 1 is that you have to be careful with composition as it is a instinct to hold the Pocket to eye level. But a few people seem to have only latched on to my 1 example of viewing the screen. Having said that,
A commenter suggested using it in flashlight mode as a solution that works and solves most of con 1. I think it's important to note that you can't or won't think of every solution for every problem. So that's what these videos and comments can be helpful as we help each other out. So shout out to Josh for the solution and everyone else who's left constructive feedback. Thanks for watching.
Can’t you tilt the camera?? It does have a gimbal function
Carina is being very helpful and i like how the way she just nods whenever u say something haha. Thanks for the video! just got mine and saw yr review.
I think you need another Mic2 so that she can talk as well.
Omg. 1st point you just need to press on that 5d joistick downwards and thats it.
awesome review Michael. love the cons that you bring up, good points.
Hey! Thank you man, for having an open perspective. Appreciate your time!
Loved the grading in this one, Michael!
Thanks Manny! Hope you are enjoying the start of Summer
Agree. Lut or custom grading?
@@maartenjanssen it’s custom graded. I am working on something for a faster workflow though. Hopefully I can share soon!
great video and review ! I might get one in the future for my next holidays :D
Hey! Thanks! You should definitely consider it. Overall it's an amazing camera especially for travel. Honestly all the things I don't like about it or minor in the end. It provides more value than it doesn't.
Thanks for this review Michael! Keep up the good work! 🙏Wondering if any color grading tutorials of the D-Log M are coming soon?
A great and honest review Michael. I hope DJI picks up some of your feedback the swipey-ness looks very glitchy. I just picked up the camera and can’t wait to unbox it.
Hi! Im sure they will improve it. Even if it just adding the wheel like they did on the mic 2. I think the swiping and screen tilt issues would be my two biggest wishes. Having said that I think you are going to love the camera, especially if you want to do more public filming and just having a camera that is super quick and generally easy to use! Looking forward to see what you create with it!
So you've had it six months and don't know how to use the joy stick? Couldn't trust the rest of the video sorry..
Well of course I do. I use it a lot actually. It does not address everything that I consider cons. I'm happy the joystick solves everything for you it. Anyways thanks for taking time to bring it up and leaving a comment. Cheers.
Weak argument
@@MichaelNgvyenno, you actually don’t know how to use the joystick. It works to frame, and to use track with framing. Problem solved. Otherwise a good video, but you made the camera look bad and it’s not DJI’s fault.
@@chrispark11 It only tilts, it doesn't vertically reframe
Great video, im about to buy one of these for our UA-cam channel and have been going through a bunch of different osmo pocket 3 reviews. Yours has helped a lot! Thanks man :)
Hey Okportugal! The pocket 3 is really great. Could be a great asset to your channel. Glad it is helpful to you in someway. Thanks for watching! Definitely will be checking put your channel! My wife and I have fallen in love with Portugal.
Finally someone who brings up the issue of non -removable batteries (indeed being a toxic trend... ) Thank you.
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Love the grading and composition in this. Also were you using ND filters for this at all? Great video!
Thank you Jalen! Yep I typically have the ND32 on always for daytime and let the iso auto adjust. For late golden hour or blue hour I find ND8 works good and nothing for lowlight scenes. Hope that helps. Appreciate your time watching the video!
Con 1, not so much of an issue. Hold it horizontal to view display. More ergonomic to hold with ninja walk. Reminds me of my steadicam setup for the monitor at the bottom of the rig. (Missed the edited author comment) We love this camera. I bought 3 creator combos for family use when we were in Japan early this year.
Thanks for this very practical deep dive. Ever since I stopped using my Powershot GX7III + gimbal, I haven’t had a travel camera outside my phone. My R5 just isn’t practical for this usage. This video is very informative, the Pocket 3 is still on my radar but will think about it more. Coming from Canon, I’m very much used to tactile and fast interfacing, so this is one thing I’ll need to keep in mind. Thanks again! Also to your (travel) partner for being a great sport!
Thanks Shone! Yes the Pocket has been a great travel cam. Definitely better than always using a big setup. It could be mote tactile for sure. But i think it could be a worthwhile investment for you. Appreciate you watching and taking time to leave your thoughts here. Cheers
So the 1st negative is you not composing the shot? Fixed battery, not a problem for me at least.
Great pros and cons man 💯
Thanks for watching. Appreciate it!
Oh,...what a great idea you just gave them, the tilt screeen.
Nice video Interesting set of accessories
I just got mine, and still trying to figure out best settings for car rollers :), great video!
I can’t wait to use it for car rollers! Im sure you will find the best settings, it’s not super hard to get a great image from it. Stoked for you. Thanks for watching
Wait, but why are you holding vertically the handle? Isn’t the point of gimbal to move in axis? You can hold it 45 angle and see from a good vantage point without crouching.
You beat me to this comment 😂. Con #2 with the internal battery really sucks.
Oh man i love the Color grading , it’s so cool, and too I see a short in Berlin 😊. I want to learn how to Color grade and edit videos , any ideas or recommendations?
Hey Sylva! Thank you so much! Honestly there are so many video on YT that can help. It's honestly how I learned back in 2014. I have been working on some cooler grading and editing workflow videos too. Hopefully I can get them up on the channel soon! Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment.
Thank you for the review. Really covers all the aspects of the camera. One question though: stabilisation...do you apply any in post to soak up the bounciness of the footage from walking?
Hey Ravigza! Thank you for the comment and watching the video. I probably should’ve addressed the stabilization in this video, but I was planning on making a best practises video for best results from the Osmo pocket 3. But to answer your question, the camera is quite sensitive to the up-and-down bounce from your walk so to solve it you either need to walk really slow or have a really great ninja walk which when I was blogging on my travels, I didn’t feel like doing, but when I knew I needed a really smooth shot, I would do it. Post stabilization can really smooth out sort of the orbits or the tilt motions of the gimbal, but it doesn’t do a very good job with the walking bounce at all unfortunately. Hope that answers your question. Thanks again for your time.
I do agree with you on the "swipe", I'd like a larger screen especially so my fat fingers could manage the swipes quicker & easier. That said, I have the the custom setting "set" to my most common settings (i.e. C1,C2,C3). I would like some custom buttons instead; to your point. Agree on the ND's, these are a pain due to the size (TBH, I just use a 3 stop all the time and call it a day). For me, I'd like to see it redesigned to handle vertical content without a sensor crop. Also, a weather-sealed model.
Hey Stkuj! Yep I agree with everything you mentioned. I think they could implement the same scroll wheel/ button like they added on the Mic 2 transmitter module. I also do the same with the ND. Usually keep the ND32 on and have the auto iso do its thing. Unless its really dark. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and leave your thoughts!
What model and generation is your Robot? Is the voice Modul broken? We can help with a upgrade. Greetings from Weyland.
Great Video, thanks. Was it partially recorded in Berlin? Greetings from germany.
Yep! The locations are Porto, Douro valley, Albania, Madeira and Berlin. Thanks for watching. Appreciate it 🙏🏽
Really like the Look in your Videos. Do you use any specific Luts? :)
Getting my dji soon 🎉 would love to know if you have a video explain how to upload the content to iphone? Or settings adjustments for better image quality?
@MichaelNgvyen on your 1st clip you don’t have to bend to get her full in your clip, just stand straight tilt the whole op3 such that the screen is facing you & that way the camera lens will automatically face forward
Thanks! Many have suggested that. I don’t use flashlight mode often with my Ronin so oversight on my part! 😅
Great review.
Thank you!
😂 good job bro, this 1st con really makes it kind of viral
Smart
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Can't you gimbal the camera up, while tilting the body down?
There are lots of issues when engineering a removable battery in a device. When you look at modern battery tech vs the longevity of a device like this, you find that the battery isn't really an issue.
regarding the ND Filter issue: I use the K&F variable ND filter, so I don’t need to take it off as often. Therefore it’s less smudged. Maybe you could look at this one😉
Honestly I tried t find some but I guess they weren’t as readily available when I got the Pocket 3. How do you like yours. Any weird cross x issues ? Or are they hard stop? Thanks for sharing your experience and watching the vid!
@@MichaelNgvyen At 5 stops it starts to happen very slightly so you have to make sure not to turn further, but in the video you don’t really notice it. For me I chose K&F over Freewell because you can turn the gimbal off without taking off the filter
Great review thanks for your efforts 👍🏻 I'm hoping the next model is a pro version with at least a standard lens incorporated
Hey Mark! Thanks for watching. I think a pro build while keeping a similar form factor footprint could be nice. Do you mean a focal length of 35mm or something similar? I actually sometimes use the digital zoom so you can get a 28mm, 35mm or 40 mm look. The quality loss to my eye is very minimal especially if you film in 4k and export in 1080 for socials.
@@MichaelNgvyen ...on the framing thing, I saw another review where he nocked the angle down with the button on the camera so the framing was lower, couldn't you have done that?
@@markshirley01 Yes, a few people in the comments have pointed out that I could frame using the joystick or suggesting that I don't know about the joystick lol. But I guess I didn't communicate what I meant well.. For some situations, to get good composition and to keep the vertical lines vertical and parallel, you have to lower the camera which causes you to have to hunch over to see the screen. If I kept it at eye level to see the screen and use the joystick button to angle down the camera the lines start to converge and I tend to not like that framing. For creative shots sure but not always.. hope that makes sense? Thanks for
bringing it up.
Good video 🙂↕️ I have it and I agree in some of them ❤.
Thanks Cindy! Appreciate you watching and leaving your comment 🙂
I came to point out the oversight on how to follow AND frame your subject, but it looks like others have already done so. That immediately made me go hmmm when the video started off with it as a con.
Yep they have. Flashlight mode is a good solution. Not perfect for every situation but works for sure.
How do I get this look for my music video?
12:33 use tracking with the orbit, will work a lot better
The colors are very beautiful, can you share your color settings? Or it would be great if you make a video on coloring
Thank you man. 🙏🏽 I will try to make something digestible and easy to follow. Appreciate the suggestion.
your first cons i think is easily fix by joystick, which I always do to correct the proposition... even in tilt lock mode. anyway your long term reviews are valid.
Do you mean the for composition? I like to have my vertical lines straight so if I compose with the joystick and tilting the vertical lines starting to skew and converge? Unless you mean something different or have a solution for it that I am unaware of? I'd love to know, my back will thank you lol. Thanks for within and leaving your feedback.
@@MichaelNgvyen composition... u r right... not sure why i typed proposition... 😂. i assume you are using tilt lock right? then no choice hv to move the camera lower. haha. But if you move lower, and double tap the joystick, the camera will face straight. then u can see the display better.
@@Weedeogram yeah composition. I use the ronin gimbals a lot so pretty familiar with double tap etc. I use it a lot to recenter but when you certain compositions you have to crouch over to see the screen of the pocket 3.. I see a lot of videos with people crouched over when filming with the pocket 3 so I don't think it's just me. lol. Thanks or the chat. Im sure someone reading all this will be helpful for them. cheers
@@MichaelNgvyen keep posting more bro.. I haven't done my long term review... but pocket 3 is my favorite for video shoot.
Question. What category do you use for camera and gear reviews on UA-cam?
Hey Chad. I just have my entire channel set to People and Blogs. It’s still boggles me that they don’t have Camera/tech/review category or something along those lines 🤷
@@MichaelNgvyen ok I appreciate that! Thanks 🙏
Btw you can use the 5d joystick(one press) to get out of menus, fast.
2:55 Hold camera parallel to surface and you will see screen
Yep yep. Flashlight mode. We have come to this solution in the comments. Greta solution for some situations. I find flashlight can be awkward for other situations. But thanks for adding your feedback. Thanks man.
Excellent video!! Very insightful and well done. One thing that drives me crazy, that I don't think you mentioned, is the "bounce". It clear in almost all of your shots, the up and down movement when walking. Is that something that "warp stabilizer" would get rid of, in Premiere Pro? Otherwise, you have to walk like a ninja, which can look funny in public. Hence drawing attention, which defeats the purpose of this camera being discreet. Idk...just some thoughts.
You are absolutely right. The bounce is not great. I should have mentioned it but I was planning to make best practices video for the Pocket 3. The bounce can sometimes be fixed with stabilization and sometimes not I have found. The best fix that I have found is to either walk very slow or do the ninja walk if you’re gonna be moving fast as you mentioned. If you walk slow, there’s not much of a bounce at all and can still be discreet. Anyways, I appreciate you watching. Thanks for the feedback.
was the begining broll filmed on the osmo pocket 3?
Hi Christoper! Yep! Actually everything is shot on the pocket 3 except the shots where you see it. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! Appreciate it!
Quick question for ya for the first issue u had can't you just toggle the camera to aim down a bit?
Yeah you totally can. I like to keep my lines straight and parallel and that makes them converge. But in some situations it would definitely be fine. As some other people have mentioned, using it in flashlight mode would also help seeing the screen. I like to do a lot of crane style shots, where I start really low, push forward and start to raise the camera above my head. So in those situations, the flash mode doesn’t work for me because holding the camera above your head while the Osmo pocket is horizontal is super awkward.
Which ND you use?
Hey man. Using the k&f concept nd filters
Hi what filter do you use?
Hi. Using the K&F concept nd filter.
what was the mic alternative you mentioned?
Hi Nia, the other mic is the Synco P2S. there should be a video in my channel. It's a super simple budget mic option that works really well! and for smartphones as well! Thanks for watching the video.. Hope that helps!
@@MichaelNgvyen thanks a lot
@@NiaPhantom NO problem! Hope can work for you!
question! where do you try to keep your EV to keep a good exposure?
when shooting DLog m.
I find the highlights blow out easy so I keep it at -0.3 in bright conditions. In the golden and blue hour it’s at 0.0. Hope that helps!
@@MichaelNgvyen thanks! Do you use a Lut converter or you color correct it yourself manually? id love to see you make a video explaining how you color grade your footage, looks great!
Con 1, flashlight mode
Yep someone pointed it out. I normally never use that mode, even with my ronin ,unless I’m doing a spinning shot so didn’t even think of it! But it’s definitely helps solves some of that issue. Thanks for bringing it up!
Re: con #5, why not make a tutorial overview of the fundamentals for new Osmo Pocket 3 owners? Your gimbal movements and techniques are especially smooth.
Thanks Michael! I thought about it. I wasn’t sure if I should but maybe I will. Thanks for the suggestion. Appreciate your time
Imagine my the first con is my best thing about it, since I don't like people looking at me like "Is this guy filming me? WAGUAN?"
Lol. Thats a good take! I like it! Made my day with your comment Ben. Thanks for watching man! 🍻
@@MichaelNgvyen Bro, this was a detailed video not on pros. BIG up!
Appreciate you man! Have a good weekend!
I have had the pocket 3 for 1 day today and the footage looks very meh so far. Spoiled with my full frame Sony sensors I guess.
Dude you have too much headspace and the fix is just to tilt the screen with the joystick. Or, double tap her head to track and push the joystick to frame correctly and it will stay and look awesome. My Pocket 2 even does this.
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2:59 Who told you that you have to hold the camera upright? that's gimbal. Hold it horizontally and adjust the angle!
Use your phone to make fine adjustments... There are limitations. Why not set your favorites? I almost never change settings...
I am not too tall, the hight doesn't seems to bother me. Bonus for shorter folks hahaha
Hey Nelson!
Oh man the composition topic seems to be popular for this video.. Your comment is hilarious. better than the angry ones! Appreciate your time!
@@MichaelNgvyen Hahaha, all good mate~ I have seen you grow so much on your channel since the very beginning. Keep it up!
@@nelsonngu Appreciate it man!
Point 1. Once you have your shot, press in the 5d joystick and the gimbal wont move, itll stay the shot you want until you take your thumb off.
Thanks yep. People have mentioned flash light mode. Definitely a solution. Appreciate the helpful feedback! Thanks for your time!
6 months later still OUT OF STOCK😮💨
Lol. No this cant be. Is it?
Yes I’ve searched everywhere online all sold out and even though I found used ones on eBay. At this point I’ll just wait until the pocket 4 releases.
Could you add sections to the video next time? It’s handy for when I come back and watch it again
I can do that! I edit this one also as soon as I get a chance! Thanks for the suggestion
Can't u you tilt up then see screen lower
You could yes. Sometime movements in the flashlight mode is a hit awkward.
FLASHLIGHT MODE - Point 1. Hold the device pointing light a flashlight. Double click the center of joystick to recenter gimbal. Now you walk and video on the subject at a level you can see the screen, properly shoot your subject… AND you are less visible as a blogger. ;)
Thanks Dana! Yes it had been suggested. I don’t use that mode often with my big gimbal and monitor so didn’t even think of it, oversight on me. Appreciate the constructive feedback. Thanks for your time
i wish they had a better wide angle adaptor....
I agree! I wonder if there are any good third party ones.
Can anyone give me some good settings for day and night please :)
Hey Jesse. Here is what I use that gives. E good results. Day : Shutter 1/50 - EV -0.3 - iso 50-800. With a nd32. You can also use 64 for really bright days.
Night: is basically the same except I don’t use a ND and keep my ev at 0.0.
If the light is consistent and even I will set my iso rather than use the auto iso. Hope that helps.
@@MichaelNgvyen definitely does man thank you! What about sharpness you mess with any of that ?
@@GrubWithJesseahh yes. Sharpness -1. Noise reduction 0
@@MichaelNgvyen much appreciated brother
@@MichaelNgvyen shot you a sub
In regards to not being able to replace the battery so one has to buy a new one when it finally dies for good: the batteries do seem to have a fairly long life before that happens; however, I am reminded of US auto manufacturers of the last century--the cars were built with what we called 'planned obsolescence' which meant they wanted to cars to die at some point so people would be forced to buy another one. Fortunately, the Japanese car manufacturers built to last and forced the US plants to change. I don't really see that happening with DJI, but one can hope. I know I love my Pocket 3.
I definitely think they hope that we will eventually have to replace it. Capitalism 😂
But What a prompt for a cool story. Thanks for sharing it! I appreciate your time for watching. Love your avatar pic BTW
@@MichaelNgvyen You are very kind, Thank you. May you know success and fulfillment.
An extra extended handle battery is basically a replacement/workaround if internal dies.
@@AndrewCCM Very true...and a lot less expensive than an entirely new camera...LOL
@@AndrewCCM yeah I figured as much. I just don’t like how it makes it quite long like a baton overall. No very pocketable at that point
Don’t you have a screen protector on? That’s why you have bugs with the screen.
Complaining about the slim filters, after complaining about DJI's thick filters, feels like you're just looking for things to bitch about. K&F sells variable filters for the Pocket 3.
Use active track and connect your phone to the pocket and all your problems are solved.
Definitely good options! The app is really great! Thanks for watching and your feedback!
You’re holding it wrong
How so? would love to know your advice.
@@MichaelNgvyen to see the screen when holding it low move the camera all the way up and hold the osmo horizontally not vertical like you did at the beginning of the video, this also helps take out the jerky steps that you see in the footage, making it even smoother. Add a small ninja walk and you’re golden.
@@JoshWilliams-mf9fc Hey yeah that makes sense. I honestly wasn't even thinking of that and I just tested it and it works. Thanks for the input as it led to this solution! Appreciate it Josh!
@@MichaelNgvyen happy to help.
That’s what she said. 🤭
Con 1 is freaking weird
tilt the osmo flat then re aline the cam da daaaa like magic u can see the screen and film.. alot a the thing u said is just nit picking.. guess what if you turn the osmo upside down u can even film low shots hahahahahaha
wierd cons that aren’t
and why do you struggle so much with seeing the framing when there’s tracking and dynamic framing built into the cam? or use a viewfinder.
and i can’t figure out if you’re talking to the mute lady, or us.
Wierdness
Chill bro
😂😂😂
So it's a fault of the camera and DJI that people don't know how to use a camera? Oh, and you might want to get over yourself, I don't find your images all that inspiring. For one, you REALLY need to work on your ninja walk.
ok review with odd last name.