The truth behind the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 Sensor!
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Hey everyone!
While doing my research I realized that most camera companies and even phone manufacturers do this, BUT the BIG DIFFERENCE is that most of them include this information in the technical specifications page, where you can find the true dimensions and the actual size. HOWEVER, as of Saturday, June 29th, 2024, DJI makes no reference to the actual size of the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 sensor, which is much smaller than their "1-inch sensor" claim, not even on the specifications page. In this video, I dive into the details and uncover the real dimensions of the Osmo Pocket 3 sensor. If DJI updates their website after this video, we’ll know they heard us! This is for you, the consumer. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit that notification bell for more in-depth tech reviews and insights.
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The BIG DIFFERENCE I've found while diving into this topic, is that although most camera companies and even phone manufactures use this outdated terminology, MOST still include the actual dimensions on the technical data page (like the Sony example at the end). However, when I made this video, DJI did not have any mention of the actual size, not on their website and not even on their technical data page. This is meant to both entertain, and inform as well as resist blatant omission of information. The device itself is fantastic, and produces a good quality image.
lol, I couldn't find anything resembling humor in this video. But besides that good video, thumbs up
@TheNitpicker thanks Mr nit pick 🙂. Appreciate you! 🫡 I hope that earned me a sub too! 😜
OK. You're being a bit snarky. That didn't come out in your delivery. The terminology is legacy, and is a simple shorthand for sensor size (like FF, MFT, APSC, type 1). Nobody wants to talk in real mm dimensions. All it takes is one look at the head to know without any doubt that nothing with a dimension of 1 inch in any direction would be behind the lens. Isn't the only bit of techie oddball descriptions. TVs/monitors are measured on the diagonal and can include parts obstructed by cases/bezels. the number of bytes isn't a multiple of 1,000 and formatting will make your real usage smaller, SD card speeds are a cesspool of half truths, and the beginning of the millennium wasn't really the year 2,000 unless you shorted the prior one by a year. As an Engineer, I've learned to not let any of it bother me. The camera is comparable to other ones with similar descriptive specs.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate your opinion. It's discussions like these that I hope to foster around this topic. In my opinion tho, and a lie is still a lie, whether it's justifiable, whether we accept it or ok with it, doesn't change that fact. If the details are obscure and omitted, it's done so intentionally, so that we, the consumer, remain miss-informed. They can quickly remedy this by including the actual details in the SPEC sheet. That being said, I'm not in any way saying it's a bad device, but as the famous tech UA-camr pointed out in the title of his video I ran at the intro." When tech companies lie to us. " it's false advertising. I suppose we are so worn out by this, that we accept it. So although The device itself performs, although this is more common than we realize, it still doesn't change the fact that we are being fooled.
Food for thought, in a funny way, imagine telling someone you are packing a 6 then when you whip it out it's really 3, won't that change the impression, not saying it won't do a good job, but! lol, Cheers mate, do stop by again. Salute!😁
I thought it was like how actual storage space on a memory card or disk drive is always smaller than advertised. However, I guess storage devices can justify it as it is the actual overall storage space. Even though you can't use some of it due to overheads or other system files - it's actually there. I thought these 1" sensors had some area on the sensor which wasn't accessible because it was round or something like that. But I guess now that's not so much the case. Then the sensor isn't any more 1 inch than a foot is the actual length of a person's foot!
Yea, one thing I’d like to see is a setting that gives you the ability to record use the full sensor. That way you can utilize the footage for both horizontal and vertical formats.
I was wondering how they fit something 1 inch inside that tiny gimbal
Yea it’s just to hype it up.
I really want to know that on what basis DJI or any camera company says it is 1" inches sensor..??
All camera companies are doing this.
Indeed the are, some more transparent than others!
Why is micro four third missing from your chart?
Aww noooooo. My bad I missed the M43, Sorry bout that! 🫡
@@avicreates It's not just you, many of people are forgetting about M43.
@@cryptofitnessandgaming-cfg well i can’t say I’ve ever really messed with m43 , had a gh4 back in the day for a bit. Idk, would be nice to see a pro osmo with a M43 Lens mount!
Think of it this way: here in the USA when you build a house, you use a piece of lumber that is referred to as a "2 by 4". That name comes from the fact that decades ago this particular piece of lumber measured 2 inches by 4 inches by whatever length you needed. However in modern times the lumber is actually slightly smaller in size but is still called a 2 by 4. Not a perfect analogy I know because we all know about the difference and the name is taken for granted. But the lumber still works and does the job...just like the "1 inch sensor". Is it deceptive? Yes. Does it change the quality of the video coming out of my Pocket 3? No. I happen to like mine and I'll continue to use it because it works for my needs. I hope that doesn't make me a bad person for not getting hung up on sensor size...but honestly, who out there that knows ANYthing about cameras really thought the Osmo Pocket 3 had a 1 inch sensor in it? It's just not physically possible.
such an underrated channel man! I gave you a sub. And I massively enjoyed the video.
This means a lot coming from the community! Appreciate you 💯! Thanks for the comment and good vibes! 🫡
Well it is well known practices in camera or electronic industry. When a vendor mint a measure, next must follow or look bad vs competitor. If you like the topics, pls continue with medium format size, iso so on...
Sure thing, what else will you like for me to dive into?
If it's not 1-inch, they shouldn't say it is. That's misleading. However, as it's being promoted as a much larger sensor than the previous Pocket2, it would be interesting to know the actual dimensions of the P2 sensor. Maybe it's not as big a jump as we assume
Yea , I agree, the jargon should be dropped, I find it so deceptive that the photo on the website is a sensor and the number 1 is over it, maybe I’d look into the matter and make another video comparing the 2. Thanks for stopping by, don’t forget to like and sub. 🙂
I check it out, it’s close to double the size of the previous version, so that’s quite the difference.
This term was used with the old Nikon 1 system. Still amazing for the size compared to phone sensors and packaged with a gimbal is still priced great.
Yes it’s great, I’m taking it with no on a day trip currently!
Most “1-inch” sensor cameras are around the same size. For example, the Sony rx100 mark vii has a SENSOR TYPE 1.0-type (13.2mm x 8.8mm) Exmor RS CMOS sensor, aspect ratio 3:2. So either your estimated size is wrong or all 1-inch sensor cameras are not actually “1-inch”
Yup my estimated size- written in blue was a bit off but pretty close, the red is the specs from DJI themselves. 12.7mm c 9.6mm 4:3 aspect ratio.
I also make reference to what u are saying here at the end.
It has the same sensor as the Sony zv1. That’s what matters
Slight little difference in size, but yes ! 🙌🏽
This is why Sony almost ALWAYS calls their "1 inch" sensors "1 inch-type" sensors. Yes, virtually every piece Sony marketing material uses the word: "type" ( 1inch-type ) Sony's legal department makes SURE that Sony keeps itself out of legal jeopardy. Other sensor makers are not this careful.
Right on! 👍🏽
The patent filing of these device designs should be standardized to diagonal size if not already.
Yea there should be a standard I agree.
They should be more transparent so sure.
But I actually do not care about sensor size if the camera creates pleasing images. And actually OP3 delivers good image quality. So I do not have any complains there.
Maybe except the fact that this 5.6 DoF equivalent is sometimes annoying (because it's fixed). For example you cannot record your face and show the surroundings behind you, because they will be blurred if are far enough.
Indeed performance wise it’s a gem!
5.6 aperture you mean, a 600mm lens at f5.6 has a drastically different DoF than a 20mm lens at f5.6.
@@DanielLeivaCardozo Check dof calculator. For the same crop DoF is exactly the same (for example portrait shot). The background compression is totally different, DoF is almost the same (slight difference is where the focus is in relation to the subject - behind and in front of - but this difference is minimal and usually in focus plane is the same depth).
@@JoATTech I was 99.9% sure I was right but gave you the benefit of the doubt and checked a DoF calculator online and now I'm 200% sure I'm right.
Pick any sensor size, pick 5.6 as an aperture and 10 feet for the subject distance. Now try that at 20mm and at 100mm and tell me how much of a DoF you get for both of them. My original comment said 600mm but to be able to use the same subject distance I'm using 100mm which still proves my point but with a less dramatic difference.
@@DanielLeivaCardozo I'm referring to the same crop/framing of the subject (for example portrait), not the same distance from the sensor.
These are two different scenarios.
For the same crop the subject will be at totally different distance, to create the same look. Comparing at the same distance gives totally different looks so nothing to compare really.
The majority of People want Great Quality and that's it...
Rey, your one chip challenge video was funny to watch! That’s some crazy heat, as to your point, the quality of the DJI OP3 is good indeed.
@@avicreates Thank you my man I appreciate it.
I hope you had a lot of laughs.
But I recorded it on my iPhone 13 Pro Max. 😉
Transparency would be good on the part of DJI. But you gave measurements in mm and cm but not what percentage of an inch those are (or I missed that). Clearly the lens is so tiny it couldn’t actually be an inch. I appreciated your clarifying this. I have the pocket 2 and 3. Mostly I noTice ease of use improvements on the pocket 3. I need to compare footage shot under equal conditions.
So it’s about 0.63 of an inch. At the 0:45 sec mark theres a photo with a generic “1-inch sensor” even tho the height and width tend to vary, the diagonal is always 16mm approximately.
The sensor size when compared to the pocket 2 is about double. The pocket 3 still gives some stellar results for being a small sensor. Thanks for stopping by, like and subscribe if you’d like 🙂
@@avicreates Thanks for getting back to me quickly. I recently shot some footage with both in the same place, so I will look for the quality differences. Agreed Pocket 3 gives some great results. I have subscribed!
@sigridlee3743 cheers, 😁🫡
Did you record this on the pocket 3?
Nah recorded on the Sony ZV-E1
@@avicreates lol, awesome Brother, thanks for sharing.
@@terryshrives8322 anyday my friend 🫡
It’s not like the Action 4 can maintain a level horizon in real life action scenarios yet it’s marketed as a feature. The 1 inch sensor size discrepancies should be common knowledge by now and it’s an industry wide misleading specification. The Pocket 2 was already a great camera and every bit helps in sensor size making the Pocket 3 an even better camera
It’s a great little device!
Very interesting! Corporations being transparent and telling the truth in 2024, in reality would be ideal, but knowing that sales and shareholder value reign supreme, doing anything to boost sales is what happens. Nice video brotha!
Absolutely! It’s all about the bottom line! Thanks for the comment broski. 🙌🏽
i mean the quality is the quality, but it shouldn't be legal to miss advertise as it is illegal in my and most other countrys.
Yea it does feel shady. It’s not honest marketing. I agree with you, and I can’t wrap my head around why it is allowed.
are there any camera's claiming 1 inch that are actually 1 inch out of interest?
Well they don’t claim it but Yes, the diagonal measurement of an APS-C sensor, (crop sensor) which is approximately 28.2 mm, is close to 1.1 inches. This is a bit larger than one inch, which is approximately 25.4 mm. But they don’t claim it in advertising.
I do think that they should include the actual specs and you should not have to reach out the support to find out. But is that a Trini accent I hear 🙌🏾🙌🏾. Great info but the accent heavily influenced the sub 😆
Hahaha yes my Trini’s, love meeting you all on here!! Thank you nice to meet you! 🫡😁
I like my Pocket 3 and the one inch censer delivers ideal results from all different situations including theatre stage recording.
Yea I used it at a couple events so far, gotta say it’s been great!
So they are leveraging industry jargon. I would prefer that they were more transparent with the specs. But that's just the nature of advertising. But it is good that they are forthcoming when pressed on the matter. With all of that said though, I come to a similar conclusion as you: the OP3 outputs a high quality image in spite of the size of the sensor. In fact an image that has secured it as my B cam next to my Sony A6700. Add in the quality of the audio it can record without an external mic (after a little post production) and the gimbal of course and you have a fantastic little camera that punches way above its class.
It’s an absolutely amazing device. Like I gotta say it feels like Christmas Day every time I use it lol 😁. It’s my BTS camera and daily driver cause its quality and convenience is great. But yes they are garnishing the industry terms to boost their brand.
We don’t care. The quality is good
Fair enough I can respect that. The quality is indeed fantastic. Lots in here seem to care about it tho.
No way (((((
But how it make so good quality of video and light at night ?
Well for night it’s internal processing on the chip. This is getting really good as chips become more powerful.
Do I have to know this. I finished the video and I forgot already
Well…..you might wanna get a cognitive test! 😁
A 2x4 is not. 2" pipe is not. That's how the USA rolls.
Excellent video - Just scribed
Appreciate you my friend. The goals are big this year, I will definitely remember my day ones. 🙏🏽🙌🏽
IDC REALLY THE OP3 VIDEO QUALITY IS STILL AMAZING FOR ITS SIZE
I don’t care either! 😁
this is a misrepresentation of true facts why are they allowed to claim a certain specification when the truth is totally different. this needs to be taken to court and a test case made, why cant they just be honest and tell the truth , no they hide behind marketing bull shit which we know to be lies
Same thing they do with their drones. The air 3 supposedly has a 48 mp camera but that’s a lie .
Yea it’s so bogus because we see the value in the device still, we see the good quality we will in most cases want the item. Can you imagine if manufacturers advertised 35mm and we got an APSC sensor. We would be outraged. This one flew under the radar for quite a while.
If you add the diagonal and height it's about 25.4mm lol
Hhahahaa 🫡. Indeed it is! I hope it was a good enough video for you to like and sub!
lol I’ve often wondered if the gimbal head was some sort of a dr who tardis.
lol, that made me laugh! cheers
Why would you call out a UA-camr for it? Of course they go by whatever specs the company outs out there.
Call them out, so they become educated. It also makes for good engagement.
@@avicreates that wouldn't be calling them out. They are not lying or hiding anything, at least not purposely lying.
@DanielLeivaCardozo true, what’s I’m saying, it’s meant to be more of a light tone. Hence the video snippets, I suppose not everyone thinks it’s more on the jokingly side, Lol
If I buy a full frame camera, I need a full frame sensor. Done
Yes my friend! Exactly! Support with a like and sub!
Lol...How can 15,9mm diagonal can be translated to 1 inch, when in reality it's 0.69 inch? 🤣
😂 then you gotta read a few paragraphs to understand why 1 inch isn’t 1 inch, this as from the 1950’s, it’s 2024 man. Let’s get with the program. I love the OMP3 tho it’s still a great camera.
It’s the same size as the DJI Action 4😮
Well look at that, I learnt something new!! It’s still a lovely piece of gear tho. I look fwd to their even bigger sensor lol. Like and sub if you wanna show some good vibes.
Wenn ein Unternehmen damit wirbt einen 1“ Sensor zu haben, dann sollte sie auch einen 1“ Sensor haben und NICHT eine Art 1“ Sensor….in meinen Augen ist das Betrug.
Yes Frank, I say so too! How do I sell you a a piece of what I’m advertising lol
Doesn't take a genius to guess the sensor is most likely 4:3. 😂
😁 oh it’s genius indeed 😁😁.
sue!?
Nah I dunno, might be a lot of work.
@@avicreates crack it open and prove it !?
dji manipulate all their marketing. The 1" air 2s sensor is 13.05x8.82. Real camera companies leave themselves a linguistic out, always have, not so with dji- they brazenly lie. Consumers vs real photographers is the real issue, the former are like sheep to the slaughter, the latter verify with sources.
You couldn’t have said it better, a few people came at me ready to defend DJI in the comments and didn’t seem to understand the point I was making. I’m sure if they bought a mirrorless APSC or FF and the sensor got something smaller they wouldn’t accept that, but for some reason it’s “ok” when it comes to smaller sensors. My real issue is the fact that you can’t find the specs online, other camera companies still list it and call it a “type” sensor. Anyway Thanks for your comment! Appreciate you! 🫡
Hi. It's really good to have more people like you digging deep in the specs. This way, maybe, will make companies to think twice before they will promote any products. But,.... even if is not a true 1'' sensor this camera gives me in any settings very good quality videos. I also have an DJI action 4 which no matter what settings I try to deal with, the image quality is way worse compared with pocket 3. Pocket 3 is so good that is almost close to my full-frame sony a7r v with a 3rd party lens. Anyway, Thank you for coming with this video. Regards.
Hey, I agree, it’s a stellar device. I find myself using this more than my FX3 or ZVE1. I don’t think they need to exaggerate anything to get good sales, either that or they start using the word “type” and excluding the dimensions in the spec sheet, something I think they should include so it’s a little more transparent.
@RubberontheroadIndonesia Rick, stop spamming comments, don’t you have videos to film for your channel?
awesome and usable information thank you 👏👍
You are very welcomed Omar. Dont forget to like and subscribe 😁
@@avicreatesdone 👍
Woah i didnt know that. This whole time was BS 😂😂
Whole time bro, big pile of donkey BS 💩 lol. The thing is that the device itself is great so I don’t think they even needed to BS is cause we would have still gone out and gotten it. Lol . Atleast put the specs on the spec sheet on the website too!
@avicreates oh yeah gotta be real to the creators that make money offer this kind of stuff. As content creator's we invest in production that work well enough to get the Channel to keep growing. But I do agree with you.
Please stop asking 20 times to like and subscribe, once is enough …
I’d stop only if you subscribed! 😁🫡
You sound like a trini 🇹🇹
Trini indeed Ryan! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🫡
@@avicreates good job buddy!!! Great content and thanks for representing….. subscribed!
@ryanjagroo86 thanks bud, appreciate you! 🫡. Find me on IG @avi_creates and link up there.
@@avicreates will do definitely
I am pretty happy with the lens and sensor on the Pocket 3. I don’t love much else. The gimbal is jumpy. The whole thing feels so fragile that I don’t even want to use it. It gets very hot for long takes. The flippy screen is probably going to break, and you cannot use it as a dash camera because it will get confused and track stuff in front of it.
I would be very happy if they put this sensor and lens in a box, with a good fan and the ability to power for long takes. A basic POV/kickoff camera. I want a GoPro, without the problems that come with a GoPro being waterproof.
Hey Bill, you know I really do like the device, but to your point, I believe for the price it could have been built a little sturdier. And yes I’ve had a few times it felt quite hot. Especially if charging and filming. Thank for your input. Feel free to show some love by liking and subscribing!
Does it take away from the performance of the camera,no, so you know for next time.
Well here’s the thing, an actual 1 inch sensor will give you closer to APSC performance, I.e dof and low light etc etc albeit a much bigger setup.
And Yep review video of osmo coming soon.
Cheers mate, have a great week 🫡
I recommend you just bought one and take it apart. you will see the sensor. Just $500. you will get much more viewers.
I have one, but na still a useful device. Would be nice to get a broken one and do that tho.
Dismantle the one you have now. Why get a broken one!!!
It’s actually a good idea! I’m on in!
@RubberontheroadIndonesia you ok Rick?
We don't care.. only Karen agreed 😂😅😅
😂😂😂 ok KAREN! 😜
@@avicreates 😂👍
I knew it....It's all a lie!!!!!!!
Indeed it is! Dont forget to like and sub 😁
This is deceptive advertising!
Surely it’s misleading. Like how omission is a lie. Deceptive indeed.