What's the Point of Being Saved If I Continue to Sin?
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Does becoming a Christian mean that you'll never sin again? If only it were that simple! If you're wrestling with guilt or shame over past (and even present) mistakes, this video will help!
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You go to the doctor, he tells you to make better health decisions, but that visit doesn't make you immune to all sickness. You'll still get sick, but you'll know better. Sometimes you'll ignore his warning and sometimes heed it, but you'll become more mature and grow out of the bad habits because "the doc had a point" and "his appointments hurt my wallet".
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Good example, but first make sure you are born again and receive the Holy Spirit. Otherwise you try to live like born again believer and you wonder why you keep failing.
So acts 2.38 make sure to repent first from your sins and get baptized for the remission of those sins and receive the Holy Spirit and live a Holy life
@@Bazakilouiswhile I feel like this should go without saying, but I'm glad you said it anyway.
@@Bazakilouis @Bazakilouis Baptize? Nonono, born again, yes, but baptize not necessarily. Baptism is a public declaration of your faith, a decision to wear "JESUS" on your shirt, but it's not necessary for salvation.
Luke 23:42-43 Only faith is required for salvation
Jn 1:12 Only faith is required for salvation
Jn 3:16 Only faith is required for salvation
Jn 3:36 Only faith is required for salvation
Jn 6:29 Only faith is required for salvation
Jn 6:35 Only faith is required for salvation
Jn 6:49 Only faith is required for salvation
Jn 8:12 Only faith is required for salvation
Jn 11:25 Only faith is required for salvation
Jn 20:31 Only faith is required for salvation
Acts 16:30-31 Only faith is required for salvation
Eph 2:8-9 Only faith is required for salvation
Rom 4:4-5 Only faith is required for salvation
That's just what I could recall off the top of my head. If you believe, then you will be saved (fire). If you are saved, then you will naturally bear fruits of good works (smoke), one of which is baptism.
The thief on the cross wasn't baptized, parable!Lazarus wasn't baptized, and not even Abel was baptized, but they were saved because they BELIEVED.
It's about the trajectory. It's about the journey. If you're truly saved, you know where your ship is heading.
God bless SWZ.
@@gi169 God bless you, too!
But we must not forget that being saved requires a continual exercise of the will to choose Christ and put Him above all worldly things, which will be evidence for the claimed faith we have in Him. So it's not just the knowledge of Christ's free gift of salvation to us, but also guiding the ship in that direction.
@@MallettMotion that's why I mentioned the trajectory. 👍
@@MallettMotion The only requirement for salvation is to trust that Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose again the third day. It’s the gospel that saves us, not how obedient we are. It’s the power of god unto salvation to everyone that believes it. The gospel is not about what we do. It’s about what Jesus did.
I know you have good intentions, but based off of what you typed, you’re adding works to the gospel of Grace by making obedience a requirement for salvation. James 2 is not talking about salvation, it’s speaking about justification before men. Remember, James was writing to saved people.
Romans 11:6 - And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
We all fall short, sin isn’t a practice. Build yourself up in the spirit through continuous prayer, scripture meditation so you can fight the good fight of faith-Hebrews 12-1-2 🗡️ 📖
1 Thessalonians 5:1-11👑
Revelation 21:8 🔥
Not often I see these videos where someone isnt being accusitory in some manner.
It's nice to see videos like this one where the gentleman was actually looking for clarification in order to deepen his understanding.
Love it! God Bless them both!
Yeah it was refreshing to see actual intelligent conversation rather than screaming
After my conversion to Christianity I then realized that what I was doing was sinful. Before Christianity I would sin without remorse and without a second thought. Even encouraged others to sin along with me. Now when I break down and sin I feel absolutely horrible..... A very big difference between then and now.
Yes!!! Amen!
This is what it means to have the Holy Spirit
The questioner misses the point of “relationship”, you don’t get married to the person you love as the perfect husband or wife, but if you love them, you will change over time for that person. If we love God, then day by day it will be reflected in how we act.
Now there’s a recipe for a doomed relationship.
Good luck with that.
Oh dear wife, I know you don't like me looking at other women, so because I love you I will slowly over time stop looking at other women. God forbids me from stopping completely right now.
@@Moist._RobotSo you think as a married person(or any person) you should not better yourself? That seems pretty silly
@@Watcher_of_the_HeavensGod commands us to stop and at the same time recognizes that we WILL fail from time to time. God sanctifies us continually over time. The apostle Paul even admits that he does the things that he hates and that he doesn’t understand his actions. He attests that there is a war between our spirit and our flesh. Ultimately the spirit wins because it is guided and protected by God. If any man says he has no sin, he is a liar and the truth is not in him.
@@ogloc6308 If a husband loves his wife, then it would be very easy to never look at other women. If they continue to look at other women, then they don't love their wife as much as they say they do. You're supposed to stop sinning and them probably make a few mistakes throughout your life, not slowing cut back on sinning over the course of your life. Cutting back is not stopping and doesn't count as making mistakes.
We war with our sin, we don't want our sin, that's the difference. We still sin but with ever less frequency. That is the evidence of having Christ in your life. Your behavior, attitude and way of thinking changes, we thirst for God's righteousness, we strive to be holy like God is holy. God is our role model
And if we want the sin, even though we know it is bad for us? That we are a slave to it, that we cannot quit doing it?
You don’t become sinless you sin less
Good word
This is so good. When Christ calls a person He bids them to come and die daily. Grace! Grace to it! This is what Scripture means when it says His kindness leads us to repentance.
Where does it say in the bible to "die daily?" This is an interesting statement to me.
@@ShiniGuraiJoker In the words of Jesus Himself:
"And he said to all, 'If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it.'" - Luke 9:23,24
This is one of those debates where *both* people have interesting questions/comments. I was relieved by what Frank said, especially since I think I know what the asker was referring to.
One day we will have a "new body" without sin, and we will worship God in both flesh and spirit! ❤️
@@xMCxVSxARBITERx Why cant you cultists get it into your heads that not everyone is Christian??? No one should be forced to "admit" to beliefs they don't hold LMAO what kind of narcissist are you??? The world does NOT revolve around you! Just as the world does not revolve around Greek, Egyptian, Hindu, or Buddhist religions, the same applies to Christianity. There are over 1,000 religions in the world, and most do not impose their beliefs on others, which is why there are generally no issues with them. However you guys DO actively shove it down our throats, and when we tell you to stfu you act as if you are being oppressed???? Like what???
If your God views loving another human being as an offense, then I choose to remain atheist. You have the constitutional right to your religion, and I have the right to mine which includes being FREE FROM religion. I do not believe in your skydaddy so respect my belief, practice our own belief separetly and most importantly... STOP OBSESSING OVER US ❤️
Whoever makes these thumbnails needs a raise😂
As soon as he said what is , I was like here we go. Nobody will be perfect and you are being reborn so it's a lifetime of being retrained not to sin and its a battle every day.
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not unto your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge him and he will direct your paths.
Amen brother, Lord Jesus bless and keep you .
@gi169 if it be in GODS will , in the name of the LORD YESHUA ; I pray you are comforted this day
@gi169 I'm teaching hunts how to properly pray , since he thinks we're doing it wrong 🤣
@@larzman651
How can we pray wrong, sometimes we have to cry out to God.
@@larzman651
What are the results of prayer?
Yes, No or Wait.
What are the results of praying to a brick?
Yes, No or Wait.
Thanks CrossExamined
In the name of the Lord yeshua if it be in the father's will unto the Father Son and Holy Spirit. I pray you have a wonderful day today.
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Thank you brother. God bless you as well.
The thumbnail guy is back
I will never be able to understand, even as a Christian, why God would forgive me and continue to love me no matter how much I sin. I don’t understand what makes man so important that a righteous and just creator who has kept every promise, never lied, never betrayed his children…would give me who has done all those things 2 seconds. I cannot comprehend saving someone like me who has repeated failed and sinned, knowing that I will repeated fail and sin again. I hope to ask him one day.
God loves us; He made made us in His Image. He judges the heart - He knows that you are either influenced by evil (Devil) or by good (God). That’s why He has no problem letting people suffer. One must forgive and be born again of the Heavenly Father.
This teacher is a Pharisee by saying we can still sin. When our hearts are truly changed we no longer sin. Christ was the example of how to live; the answers are already here.
@@seekfirstthekingdom4388 _"Christ was the example of how to live"_
Yes. If we walk continually in the Spirit. But we don't. Partly because we still have old neural pathways that have to be rewritten (being transformed by the renewal of your mind) and partly because we just don't always walk in the Spirit.
Is the Lord's prayer our example for how to pray? If so, and if the believer is incapable of sin, then why would Jesus teach us to ask forgiveness in our regular / daily prayers?
Anyone claiming that they are incapable of sin before being bodily resurrected at the end in an imperishable body (like Christ's) does not understand what scripture teaches (and is probably also full of hubris, believing that they themselves are now perfect).
Always get the answers to my questions here. ❤✝️❤
That is sad.
@@mattslater2603Why do you hate God, matt?
@@aaehguf
I don't think Matt hates God, he just has a point, if people find answers in man and not in the word of God, it is SAD!
Mr Turek . I dont know if you take time to read comments on your videos but I want to thank you for all you do and the research to have your vast wealth of insight and the gentleman way you respond to everyone you are the right representative for our lord Jesus Christ you help me regain strength and stay focused you also help me understand things no one else able to help me understand surley God is with you
1 Corinthians 10:13, No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it."
God is not looking for righteous people though he'll be happy to find one. He's looking for anyone who is willing to repent and receive his help to overcome sin.
"Therefore I say to you: walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh." (Galatians 5:16)
"Do not be drunk with wine which only leads to reckless living. Instead, be filled with the Holy Spirit...". (Ephesians 5:18)
Matthew 11:28-30
28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
that was a good conversation
What if we don't have a choice (but to sin)? Some people tend to ask the most mind-boggling questions these days. I Corinthians 10:13 says that God is faithful, will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able to (stand) AND will also make a way to escape (so you won't have to sin, unless YOU choose to).
Sir, thank you for your question, I think I get my answers. Thank you.
If we were perfect, Christ would’ve died for nothing. We are not perfect but we can overcome the snares of the wicked one and choose righteousness over willful sin through Christ.
Apparently he still died for nothing. Some get saved, but most burn forever. Mission failure.
@@mattr.1887And what about the lives if those who choose to accept Him and His sacrifice? Are they worth nothing?
@@mattr.1887 I notice people always use excuses. God would be a tyrant if He forced you to love Him, but now He’s unloving because *you* choose to reject Him. Why do you feel the need to come into the comment section to be hostile? You’re kind of proving the point of how we all fall short of the glory of God. I’m not saying I’m perfect in all this however, but what I am saying is that Christ is our bridge to God, no matter what we’ve done or said in our lives. Even the lowliest blasphemer or thief, killer can be united to the Lord through Jesus.
Tori, they are definitely worth something. But Jesus only died for Christians, apparently.
Friend, how would God be forcing you to love him by saving you from hell?
As Christians we are not supposed to continue to sin, that’s why we are told to walk in the spirit so that we don’t give in to the flesh. That’s why renewing the mind by the word of God is important, otherwise you will continue to sin because you continue to think the same way
No such thing as a sinless Christian.
@@chriskitchen4772 So you know every Christian and their level of walk with Christ?
No one is saying Christians are supposed to sin... the sky is blue, water is wet, and Christians aren't supposed to sin lol.
@@marktravis5162speaking of the word of God...
1 John 1:8
New American Standard Bible
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
@@arcguardian Lol good job
People often think being baptised in the Holy Spirit resolves or should resolve the inner conflict regarding sin. The opposite is true. The difference is the voice inside us telling us what we should be doing should be louder. Ultimately it’s still our choice because we still have free will. The difference is we have better choices that become more obviously available to us 🙏🏼
Not only that, but we also gain help for when we choose the right path. He gives us the strength to do it.
I think the different is that the ones who was not saved indulge in sin, they enjoy sins, they love sins, and they practice their sins as daily basic, the ones who are saved don't have that love for sins, sometimes they may fall into sin, but they will feel horrible when they do, so they need to confess their sins, to be saved again.
_"so they need to confess their sins, to be saved again."_
I agree with most of your post, but not the end part. We need to repent and put those things under the authority of God in the salvation we already have. We don't lose and regain salvation by sinning and confessing.
Whoever made the thumbnail, i want you to know that every time i am tempted I'm going to see this men's image of Dory and laugh.
It was a good conversation and one I think most struggle with. I have always interpreted it simply this way (and can share verses if anyone needed it); If you are saved and then baptized, that whole exchange is putting to death the old self and it’s way and nature. That must be genuinely gone and now replaced with a new self and the spirit guiding and growing it with you day by day. However though the old me is gone, the flesh still is alive and well and is attached to this world and that is where sin comes in and crouches at the door. Our new man now increases in strength day by day putting this flesh into submission under the spirit so I no longer walk in defeat but in victory more and more and not less and less. Lol maybe not simply put to explain but hopefully this is respectfully received
Not a bad description. Also, the neural pathways in our brain need to be rewired, physically. Old habits replaced. This is a direct link between the "flesh" and the remaining habits and ways of the "old self" ("Do not be conformed to the world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind"). This sometimes takes a lot of "will" and effort to effect, but He provides the means and the power, so we are no longer "slaves", but free.
There’s a difference between sinning & living in sin
Being born again (or born from above) is about a new man being created with the CAPACITY to see God and His truth, repent, and be renewed and conformed into that image (CHRIST) that we're now welcomed in to behold and know. Sanctification is about the continual, daily process of availing ourselves of that capacity. Many times, it is three streps forward two steps back. But, until you are born from above, you lack the falculties to truly know God and submit to Him, so you can't even begin the journey of being conformed into His image in a deliberate and meaningful way.
In addition, being saved is a "legal" tranasaction of justification-a substitutionary work in which, by grace, on the basis of faith, the penalty for our sins (past, present, future) are re-assigned unto the finished work of Christ on the cross (propitiation). Our faith in that work-and continuing to renew our minds with the implications of it-gives us a power over the flesh we otherwise lack. We're no longer fighting a lost battle, but we're fighting from a place of confidence and victory, knowing that we are accepted in the Beloved (Christ)-which, in turn, if truly believed, causes a longing to love and obey Him in return.
The point is that we will continue to draw near to Christ and be a follower of him, and the more wet follow him. The more will be like him, and the less well even desire the fleshly temptations, but more desire the ways of our father in heaven. It's a matter of what we choose.
If* we will continue.
1 John 1:8
New American Standard Bible
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Lord forgive me for taking advantage of your grace.
Crucify my flesh again, form me as you would.
Manifest that man I am in you who soars above time, bereft of wickedness and sinful desire.
It's about setting your eyes on the certain goal that you wish to attain. To be Christlike, to be worthy, but to know that you are not. To weep over your wicked heart, repent, and strive on, secure that your salvation is firm and undaunted by the lying sinful self that says, "you'll always be this way." He who parted the sea and multiplied the food 1000 times, who lifted the Son of Man from the grave itself - He is more than able to save you.
The spirit is eternal and it gets saved. The flesh is mortal and beyond redemption. It's tied to this world and as long as we're tied to it, it will fight against the spirit and sometimes win.
Fortunately, in salvation there is sanctification and the flesh loses its hold the more we live by the spirit and in fellowship with God. Whichever we feed will be the stronger.
Amen brother, Lord bless and keep you.
Well said
This flesh will be changed. One day, we will be like Him. Until that day, but God’s strength and grace we will cause us to stand. Praise our Lord Jesus Christ
Don't forget we will be bodily resurrected. But our new flesh will be imperishable, like the body of the resurrected Christ. "But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself." - Philippians 3:20,21
Justification at the point of faith, sanctification throughout this life, glorification when we finally stand before Him. We live in a state of theological tension, of "already", but also "not yet".
We are dead to the power of sin, we are made new creation! We still have the power of sin active in the world though. We have the Spirit in us, we can make a choice to walk after the Spirit, or, after the flesh witch is our OLD way of thinking ( be renewd in your mind). There is NO old me, because it has died with Christ, but now, i also am raised in to new Life with Christ! New identity, new creation, that has the power to say No to sin. But we do still sin because we learn and grow a long the way, during a life time...
Thank God for Grace, there is no hope any other way!❤🎉🙌🏼
Being transformed by the renewing of our mind is an ongoing process, rewiring the neural pathways of old habit and forming new ones. We now have the freedom and ability to do so in Christ, but in most cases it's not an instant thing. This is why we still sometimes do that which we hate.
As we get closer to Christ (Bible reading, dedicated prayer, church) we WILL sin less and less (lessen the amount of sin) until we die and we become sinless (no sin at all).
Confusing question, but I think the answer was good.
Jesus’s sacrifice was enough to free us from the bondage of sin and now we can be sinless, it doesn’t mean we are instantly perfect but ever growing and we will become more and more resilient
This thumbnail is crazy 😂
Jesus said, "go and sin no more".
1 John 1:8
New American Standard Bible
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Sin will decrease in our lives when we choose to life according to his word(John 17:17 We will be sanctified by the word of God).❤🔥
Im glad we are given grace by God. But I would be lying if Im not sometimes frustrated by Christians that sin every friday and saturday night and wash it all away Sunday morning.
I get where he's coming from. Especially when he said the thing about getting rid of all the dirt on the earth. It sounds from Frank's answer that "the flesh" and our "fallen nature" are 2 different things and he didn't really answer that.
The only thing you bring in your salvation is sin. And thank God our salvation doesn’t depend on every nano seconds where we do things right.❤
Amen.
The one who is born of God, apparently the new nature, does not continue to sin. So it is by walking according to our new nature that we overcome sin. But yes, we still have the "body of death" until the Lord returns. The evil one cannot harm our new nature but according to testimonials apparently the evil one can get to people's sinful nature and apparently that is how believers can exhibit demonic manifestations, etc. if they are walking in the flesh.
Romans Chapters 3&4, and Ephesians 2:8&9 is the answer .
I was so confused with the thumbnail. I was like oh, Finding Nemo if it were evil.
8 years ago, the Lord saved me from my sins. I had stumbled down a dark path but God showed me my wrong doings and I repented and put my faith in him. I have lived without sin since that day. 7 years ago, God Sanctified me. He took the sin nature out. I have never turned away from God. Temptations do come to turn back, but I pray to the Lord to strengthen me and keep my desires towards him. I have to die daily to spend time with God. To give him time in devotions so my focus stays true. I’m not always perfect with devotions and I have seen that it affects my walk. I feel weaker when I am away from devotions or church for a longer time. God saves and keeps from sin. To turn to sin is to turn from God. I’m praying for you all. Pray for me that I receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.
When we walk in the Spirit, we do not sin. But it doesn't mean we can't. So continue to walk in His Spirit, being transformed by the renewing of your mind! You already have the Spirit, otherwise you couldn't do what you do now. God bless and keep you!
Being free from sin is a work of the Holy Spirit, but man. Why do Frank and others continue to doubt the ability of the Holy Spirit? Jude 1:24 "Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,"
Romans 7 is a pre-conversion Paul dying to his old self and being re-newed to Christ
Thank you for bringing this truth in
Yes, it's only part of the full diatribe on the law and faith, you need to continue into 8 to see the full picture. But even believers sometimes "walk in the flesh" instead of "walking in the Spirit", but the Spirit convicts and we repent. We have the ability to be without sin when we walk in the Spirit and remain there. Renewing your mind is a process, as is sanctification. We live in a state of theological tension, of "already, but not yet" applied grace (although please note that I do not mean that grace is applied piecemeal, we have full access to the work of Christ, free access to the full measure of grace by faith) and effects of Christ's work. We learn to live in God through the rest of this life, preparing us for heaven. To the measure we walk in the Spirit, doing good works prepared in advance as members of the body of Christ, we store up treasures in heaven, our reward when we finally stand before Him.
If Paul says this: Romans 7: 14 For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold [m]into bondage to sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. 16 But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. 17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. 19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. 20 But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.
He also says this:
Romans 8 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life [a]in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the Law could not do, [b]weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of [c]sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is [d]alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies [e]through His Spirit who dwells in you.
12 So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh- 13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you [f]must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you have not received a spirit of slavery [g]leading to fear again, but you have received [h]a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.
Think about what Jesus said:
John 8: 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.
and also: 31 So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.
free from what? free from sin.
36 So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.
Romans 6 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? 2 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? 3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
Galatians 5: 24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
1 Peter 1: 15 but [p]like the Holy One who called you, [q]be holy yourselves also in all your behavior; 16 because it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”
Philippians 2: 12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.
Assumption of post salvation Romans 7 brings lots of questions and confusion in regards to victory over sin
Romans Chapters 3&4, and Ephesians 2:8&9 is the answer to you question.
Based on the letters to Churches in Revelation, post salvation believers still had ongoing issues, but Jesus says he firmly rebukes and disciplines those whom he loves.
That's not the end of the topic, read on into Romans 8 (life in the Spirit). It's a whole section about the old and new covenants, how the law brings condemnation without faith (a faith that looked forward to the redemptive work of the Messiah in the case of the Jews under the old covenant, trusting God's promises for redemption - which due to His timeless nature is / was applied to all the faithful - and leaning on the strength of God, not our own to have victory over sin and escape condemnation).
Christians sin at times, have sin weaknesses, have sin struggles, aren't perfect, make mistakes in life, etc, but Christians aren't slaves to sin, don't live in sin, don't live lifestyles defined by sin, etc. When a person becomes saved, God changes them to where they aren't slaves to sin anymore.
No such thing as a sinless Christian. If there was then there would be no need for Christ's perfect gift.
Yes, we are all sinners. We all sin, every day. Your worst sin? Millions have done the same thing, and hide the same secret, and ALL OF THEM can be saved, including and especially you. Jesus/God/universe (the “judge”) don’t care what your sin is, they really don’t, they just want you to return and come back home. Repent. Seek forgiveness. Choose love when you previously chose fear. It’s not as scary as it sounds. It’s healing for the soul.💛
We could become puffed up like Satan, who stood in the very prescence of God and yet, thought too highly of himself to obey. If we were perfect in our crucifiction of the flesh, as mere mortals, we would forget God. It's like money; when you're rich you don't feel like you need anyone or anything, especially, God, hence the story of the rich man and the eye of a needle. I think he leaves us a bit of sorrow and pain, a bit of failure in our struggle, in order to seek him and his help. To God be the glory, not us. Less of us and more of him. Praise be to God in all his wisdom and glory!
Sanctification is a process, too.
1 John 3:10 says only the children of the devil continue in sin.
2 Peter 2:14 says the children of the devil cannot cease from sinning.
From Romans 7:
“For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.”
Good example, but first make sure you are born again and receive the Holy Spirit. Otherwise you try to live like born again believer and you wonder why you keep failing.
So acts 2.38 make sure to repent first from your sins and get baptized for the remission of those sins and receive the Holy Spirit and live a Holy life
It's a difficult question to phrase. There are people that may have an addiction to maybe alcohol, sex, or drugs, and can't stop giving in to the sin of those. But there is a difference between someone who is repentant, has a change of heart and WANTS to stop sinning, but the addiction of the flesh keeps them at it, as opposed to a person that believes they are saved but doesn't have a change of heart, and keeps at the sin to enjoy their life thinking they've got a pass to heaven. That's at least how I would ask the question, but don't bank on what I'm saying, it's an opinion I could be wrong.
Actually I’ve thought about that quite a bit and tend to agree with you. Addictions (eg alcohol or drugs) seem real, making it very difficult, despite wanting to not sin anymore.
The only challenge to my own (and maybe your) thought is from Corinthians, where it states, ‘no temptation has seized you…’ where it says that God will always provide a way out.
@@stevew4079 Good point. That way out may not happen in a day either, one must have to keep praying and putting their trust in God to lead them out.
Christians sin every day. Some are already thinking. Not me! We fall short to love God with all our heart, soul and mind. And to love our neighbor. Sanctification is a lifetime process. (1 John 1:9) "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
People will do unrighteousness because that’s who we are. God knows this and in His infinite grace and mercy and His abundance of love, sent Jesus Christ. We cannot have victory over the grave and sin without Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:55. “ Turn your eyes upon Jesus, Look full in His wonderful face, and the things of earth will grow strangely dim, in the light of His glory and grace.”
Amen.
I love the book of Romans. Romans 7 and 8 actually talk about the christian life. We christians still sin But we don't wallow in it like pigs, which is explained in Acts 2, i believe. We sin In season
And when we do it, our hearts are filled with 7
when the unbeliever Sins They feel no conviction because they are spiritually dead. While christians are spiritually alive in Christ.
I think I understand what he's struggling with... he thinks that we all need to become monks in order to be good Christians
The whole point is this -
You're SAVED because you've conquered sin via repentance.
Repentance means you're changed and you don't return to sin.
To dumb it WAY way way down ... it's like an alcoholics anonymous
participant succeeding because he never once returns to alcohol.
We are indeed saved by God - but ONLY after all we can do for ourselves.
It's not a free ticket. We must participate, and in the correct way.
A person who needs a vicarious third party savior lacks confidence in their own being.
Jesus died and rose agian if you believe that he died and rose and were saved by grace through faith alone you will be saved. Once Saved Always saved no need to repent from your sins for salvation. .
Exactly. But, that is never a sure thing. There’s nothing hard evidence, physical appearance, physical pendant, or trophy that shows you’re a better person than the next.
It seems the only way they can, or should, show they’re confident about their faith, would be to never, ever expect to see validation for it through human casualties beyond the mind’s comprehension. Where not only is there’s no life left, there’s no hope for those who might have been.
It’s been rough lately, and I’ve been going back to this sin over and over again, it’s never been this bad. I feel distant from god and let my problems get the best of me then end up going back to that sin. Any tips?
Yes! You need to fight using Scripture. "It is written!" Like Jesus did. Find one the is as precise to the sin you can find and memorize it. Meditate on it. Come into agreement with God's WORD.... "Can 2 walk together if they be not in agreement?" Pray about it! Sometimes my sins remain because I haven't repented or let go of sin in other areas. I struggled with alcohol, but needed to stand still and let Him fight for me! I kept trying to do it on my own and was extremely upset those around me kept putting me in bad situations. Until I confessed it to people around me, who were part of the problem, did I become stronger. I also removed myself from the toxic environment of drinkers. I will not lie, it took me 10 years of struggling back and forth, and 2 years sober standing and fighting against temptation. Fighting SIN is like fighting the Giants in scripture!
ANSWER:= GALATIANS 5 v 13 to 26.
for the flesh desires what is contrary to the spirit, and the spirit desires what is contrary to the flesh, they are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want.
Why should anybody listen to Paul's opinion?
@@Mavors1099 its not his opinion.
He was CHOSEN by Jesus, its the holy spirit giving the teaching, not himself.
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He didn't even meet Jesus ever.
@@Mavors1099 i can tell you're hungry for knowledge.
That is a good thing.
His name was saul, before it was paul.
He committed atrocities in the honest belief he was protecting the " law" .
He even watched over the stoning to death of apostle stephen, the first of the 12 to gain martyrdom and sainthood.
Jesus sometimes chooses the worst sinners to change them, in a demonstration that whoever shows genuine remorse and repentance for their sins they will be written in the book of life.
Jesus appeared to him in the supernatural and rebuked and converted him, as is what will happen to any human being that is lucky enough to experience his presence.
He was BLIND and MUTE for 3 days following that interaction, so that the others would know what he was to say is from ghe holy spirit.
Saul...why do you persecute me so???
remember he did not believe jesus was divine.
@@basedsigma5634
His name was always Paul, that was his Roman name (being Saul his Hebrew name). Jesus chose 12 apostles, none of them was Paul. Jesus never met Paul.
He didn’t remove all the dirt from the world,he just removed it from you
living holy everyday is not only possible but practical as well. God does not give us commands that we’re unable to keep.
”Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.“
I John 3:4-9 NKJV
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That’s the whole point of being saved. We will always be sinners. But Christ took on every sin we will ever commit. But doesn’t mean we should take advantage of his grace and continue a life of sin. He calls us away from sin because we are now his children and knows the consequences of sin in this life. If you don’t feel the lords conviction when you sin then I would doubt you’re truly saved.
I think it helps to KNOW WHAT SIN IS! Sin is transgression of the Law! So read Psalm 1!!!!
How do you define what is and what isnt sin?
this was an incredible question, sin always keeps coming back even when saved, at times we walked the right path and then there are times when we stumble off the path...
Incorrect. According to scripture... if you sin still you do not know God.
1Jo 3:6 KJV - Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jo 3:7 KJV - Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jo 3:8 KJV - He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jo 3:9 KJV - Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jo 3:10 KJV - In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
@@TheGingerbread-Man ok then how do I completely stop myself from sinning, because it's just not that simple
@@txsteakman93 First my friend... you must know WHO God is. There are many different gods preached out of the same Bible, however, only ONE can save. The rest are idols amd false dumb gods like the trinity... that cannot save. You are more than welcome to look through my playlists... there is one I made for you called adulteress.
@@txsteakman93 There are very few that actually believe the truth, as Jesus said.
Mat 7:14 KJV - Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and ➡️few there be that find it.⬅️
@@TheGingerbread-Man i got baptized alone time ago when I was young, I mean that was my first step of knowing God
What I tell my like warn Christian friends and family is this..." Christ tells us to be born again by water and spirit, to 'sin no more'. Sure we will stumble but if we truly are changed and under regeneration then we will no longer 'willfully' sin. How dare I trample the precious blood of my savior. I agree with Frank fully and this is what Alot if not most professing Christians think....that we will never stop sinning and it's ok because that's why Jesus went to the cross for us...Correction, He went to the cross to save us from our sin, not to remain in it.
Right - any sin is willful by definition, but 'to go sinning willfully' expression implies a greater level of unrepentant continual sin as a regular practice. Reckless abandonment vs 'Lord help me I messed up'
Big problem with this line of thinking. A person can only have one nature. Those born again by the resurrection of Christ, have ONE nature, the nature of the last Adam to whom they have been joined.
Subjective experience CANNOT nullify objective truth. We DO NOT have a sin nature.
One thing I wish Dr. Turek mentioned is the difference between mortal sin and venial sin, (mortal sin being a premeditated grave action committed with full knowledge that it is wrong and offends God) and that mortal sin is always a choice (as all sin is), but it's not inevitable. As where venial sin (venial sin being an immoral action that is relatively slight or that is committed without full reflection or consent), practically speaking, is next to unavoidable, and if one were to die in a state of venial sin, it wouldn't separate him/her from God for eternity, but it _would_ incur the cleansing of purgatory to purify and perfect the soul to enter the joy of Heaven: Revelation 21:27 - "Nothing unclean shall enter it (heaven)...." And I'm sure most of us, if not, all of us, will never reach perfection, dying without a "spot or wrinkle or any other blemish" (Ephesians 5:27).
Purgatory isn't real, it isn't said anywhere in the bible. Also God forgives all kinds of sin, whether we call them mortal, venial, or any other word.(1 John 1:9 KJV). Still though, that doesn't mean we ought to go on living in sin (Romans 6:1 KJV), we ought to be conforming ourselves to be more and more like Jesus every day. Now that we are saved, our bodies are now tabernacles for the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19-20 KJV), we ought to remember that as well.
@@aaehguf Hi there, actually, based off of the bible, purgatory MUST exist out of necessity. St. John Paul II says, “If purgatory didn’t exist, we’d have to invent it.” Essentially he’s saying, its ludicrous to believe it can’t exist, as the contrary goes so much against what must logical happen if Jesus’ words are true (which they are).
And that’s right, the word purgatory wasn’t explicitly written in the bible, but that’s because the word wasn’t invented yet. Just like how, when Paul was speaking about “homosexuals”, he actually never used that word, it was inferred into the bible in 1946, because based on the context and interpretation of the initial words he used, he was talking about what we now call “homosexuality.” So just like “purgatory” wasn’t explicitly used, it can be inferred when you look into the meaning of certain passages. The word purgatory is a word to describe what the bible is talking about. Also the word ‘hell’ was never explicitly written in the bible. The words initially used were Sheol and Hades. But that does’t mean hell doesn’t exist. Hell is the word which is used to describe the “lake of fire”, or “eternal fire”, or the place of “weeping and gnashing of teeth”.
Also, just saying, there have been validated apparitions of Mary and Jesus where they mention purgatory, and the souls that need to be prayed for to shorten their “time” there. And no, this is not Satan or a demon masquerading as a holy figure. And when I say “validated” apparitions, I mean these are investigated cases that delve into the persons motives intentions, and biography to extract anything that may be peculiar, and to verify whether he/she is lying for attention of fame, or trying to mislead. If all of these factors are proven to be unprejudiced, it’s declared a message from heaven. We don’t just take anyone’s word for it. There’s no one better to validate purgatory than Christ Himself, or any other heavenly figure appearing to someone.
Although I wish I could equip you with the scripture that indicates purgatory, I can’t name it off the top of my head right now, and don’t have the time, so maybe later :)
Yes, I never said God couldn’t forgive all sin, but there are simply more severe sins that must be treated differently.
You say you are saved, but you can still sin, meaning, today you could be eligible for heaven, and tomorrow you’re not because you committed a grave sin. No offence, but I recommend not getting too haughty about “being saved”, because that’s only guaranteed when you’re in a state of grace (free from mortal sin). “Being saved” requires a continual effort of staying in accordance with God’s commandments as best as we can, which is pretty hard. If you give up on trying to remove sin from your life, that ain’t lookin’ so good for you in the long run. Same applies to everyone else that does this. Salvation isn’t a mere mental realization or exercise, that’s absurd. It would contradict most of the bible.
@@MallettMotion _"I wish I could equip you with the scripture that indicates purgatory"_
Good luck with that. There isn't one.
We live in a state of theological tension between the point of coming to faith and eventually standing face to face with Christ. We are justified and so have access to the Father, but we are still not yet glorified. So we experience sanctification, being transformed by the renewing of our minds. The passages that are often used to support the idea of purgatory actually apply to our "already, but not yet" state of tension (between justification applied to us now and our future glorification / perfection), where we learn to live in God, to walk by His Spirit, submitting our lives and thoughts and actions to His rightful authority. When we are resurrected to stand before Him, we will be given glorified imperishable bodies, like that of the risen Christ.
_"'Being saved' requires a continual effort of staying in accordance with God’s commandments as best as we can, which is pretty hard."_
It's not just hard, it's impossible. Which is why we need grace, applied by faith. This is explained very thoroughly in Romans. From that point we have obtained salvation, being covered by the blood of Christ (justification). The only way to remain sinless is to continually walk in the Spirit.
This may be the first time I disagree with Frank but agree with the questioner. Jesus commands us to go and sin no more. Jesus would never command us something He doesn't give us the power to do.
Some scriptures to keep in mind:
1 John 3:6 "No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Anyone who continues to live in him will not sin. But anyone who keeps on sinning does not know him or understand who he is."
Matthew 5:48 "But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect."
Well the power comes from the Holy Spirit and yes you are right, by the power of The Holy Spirit we become new and will continue to grow until we are perfected
From which peril need I salvation?
The complete and final death / destruction (the second death, the destruction of your soul in fire) that your own path leads to by it's very nature being apart from God (who is the epitome of life). If you choose to be apart from God, you are choosing to be apart from life itself.
@@stephenkeen6044 Have you ever _directly observed_ a soul? Yes or no.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Are you claiming you have no soul? I do. I'm a soul man. 😉
No one is saved yet. You must endure to the end
So does that mean you are saving yourself through your works?
As jesus said, I must do the works of him who sent me. As we learn, faith without works is dead
the question becomes = Can a Christian live a sinless life? If yes, then hallelujah. If no, aren't we still slaves to sin?
I have lived a sinless life.
Sin does not exist
The answer is yes. By walking in the Spirit continually. But we don't. And when we are instead walking in the flesh, we cannot avoid it. The key difference between the believer and the non-believer is access to the Spirit and thus access to the ability to be sinless. So the non-believer is a slave to their sin, the believer has access to freedom and victory over sin.
@@stephenkeen6044 Which actions of mine, an atheist, demonstrates I am a slave to this mythological 'sin'?
Sin is anything contrary to gods will. Everybody is a sinner. The difference is that there are those who follow gods will and repent
Yet you can't show any gods to exist... at all.
Lol... okay then
Creation proves it
God changes your desires, so you don't want to sin anymore. You still fall short, but you don't no longer wilfully sin.
Before God chamged my heart, l sinned wilfully even when my concious convicted me it was wrong.
Now l don't do the same things anymore. But l am not perfect yet. God still doing a work in me.
Think the interpretation of Romans 7 is wrong.
I think Paul was talking about the difference between being under the law before Christ.
Because Paul hit sin hard in Romans 6. He also says though he walk in the flesh l dont war after the flesh.
I am aware that frank doesn’t respond to questions in his comment section, however I do have a question and maybe some of my fellow Christians can help me understand this better.
You say that God is space less, timeless, and immaterial, but if that’s true that how can it be possible for God to create us in his image? That would only be possible if had an image, which would imply some sort of material body. Maybe not a material as we understand it, but still something physical right?
Not made of material, physical matter, doesn't necessarily mean formless. Reportedly the heavenly dimension is filled with all sorts of beings with various body forms.
Being made in the "image of God" does not mean we look like Him physically. It means He made us with characteristics that reflect His own. Free will, rationality, creativity, capacity for selfless love, etc. Each of us with a particular blend of characteristics we're designed to display. So we "look like Him" in other ways than physical. We can learn more of God's character from every person we encounter, if we're able to see them perfectly. We ourselves are not gods, but we exhibit a "reflection of Divinity" if you will. His signature is on us and is recognisable.
This is the true origin of human rights.
Our bodies are merely a vessel that is influenced by God (Love) or Evil. We must be born again of the Heavenly Father to truly be with Him. Our parents make us in their image which is the sin, so we must forgive them and be born of the Heavenly Father, that is the way.
For this speaker to say we can sin and that’s ok, is heresy. But then again, only a few walk the straight and narrow.
The problem with bible thumping Christian’s is they serve their intellect (the ego) and they are no different than an atheist intellect who serves their ego.
@@seekfirstthekingdom4388 _"Our parents make us in their image which is the sin"_
Not scriptural. This entire doctrine of yours is not scriptural. And since scripture is the only thing we have to differentiate between truth and delusion, it's what we have to use:
"Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies, but test everything; hold fast what is good." - 1 Thessalonians 5:19-21
"Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so." - Acts 17:11
So yeah, good luck with your false doctrine and I hope you come to a saving knowledge of the truth soon.
Please note. I'm not condoning sin. Just the opposite, but we need to recognise our nature so we can better understand our behaviour and attribute things to the right source. Otherwise our treatment of the symptom will not produce a cure. There is only one path to redemption and restoration, one way to the Father, and that is through the Son.
Does sin exist under the new covenant?
physical scientific features are not the same as moral philosophy
When did the sinner tell Jesus that they place their full complete faith in him.? Lots of questions get answered when that happens.
Such as ?
Haven't taken the time, @@mattr.1887 .?
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me, which includes not sinning. If I continue to willfully sin then I have not been saved.
That's a false gospel. Every time you sin it's because you willfully chose to. Stop pretending like you accidentally sin. But the good news of the gospel is that Christ paid for your sins. Doesn't mean you can abuse God's grace though. That's dangerous business.
@@chrisgagnon5768 I know that all sin is willful, But with Christ I have been given a way out of sin with his help, but, if I do sin and confess that sin he will forgive. After being born again we have the ability to sin but it is not a given that we will sin. With the help of Jesus, it is possible to not sin.
Not in this life it's not
Saved from what?
From yourself. From sin.
Believe Jesus Christ was and is the Son of God and in His sacrifice, that He died for your sins, that He died and was buried, and on the third day rose again, and you will be saved. It's as simple as that. It's a free gift from God. Salvation is free and requires nothing from you to get it, but to simply believe, to simply have faith and trust in Jesus Christ and in what He did for you.
Hey, if u haven't, can you explain Romans 9:13? It kinda caused me to walk away from God.
God chose Jacob over Esau. He knew Esau did not have respect for his birth right. He knew Easu would be the father of the Edomites. He knew Jacob was better prepared to carry out his role in God's plan even though he was a schemer. Scripture does not make you walk away from God. It was your choice when you did it.
All of Romans 9 details God's sovereign dealings with the nation of Israel. Paul is grappling with the Jews who continue to disbelieve and verse 13 deals explicitly with God's justice and His grace. Remember, Esau represented Edom, and Jacob represented Israel. Jacob received grace and Esau, justice. That's why Paul asks in verse 14, "Is there injustice on God's part? Certainly not!" There is absolutely no injustice with God. Jacob got grace, and Esau got justice. No one ever gets injustice with God. May His grace and sovereign hand sustain you.
@@chloemartel9927 yeah, it just couldn't get in my head right bc really these other people didn't explain it good
The Bible often says how God is patient and long-suffering with sinners and desires all to be saved. The Bible says that Esau wept and asked for forgiveness but he was not forgiven. God forgives those who hearts are toward God and rejects those who are not. God was bringing in His plan and He chose Jacob to work with and keep His plan going to get us to the Messiah.
You could also ask why did God skip over all of David's brothers and reject them until He decided that David would be the person. The Bible says God sees mans heart. Hope that helps you a little bit.......I understand that it's a verse that requires you to search more. We all deserve death and God will grant mercy on whom He wants (the humble and those who seek His will and not their own)
The Bible doesn't say that God has unconditional love and loves everyone and everything. God abhors the wicked and all sin will be destroyed along with the sinner but by grace some will be saved
Ty guys I understand a little bit more
I always get Hebrews thrown at me by salvation losing folks
He doesn't understand the simplicity of what Paul wrote. He is trying to figure out the mess he was told. You are dead to sin and alive to Christ. You cannot sin your way out of salvation, you are a slave to righteousness. When you grasp this, ask more questions. The body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is alive. Christianity isn't a changed life, it is an exchanged life. Circumcision is a changed life. That is what is in the red letters.
If we were perfect there would've been no need for Christ to begin with!
It's a good question, and unfortunately, Christianity as it is presented on the planet, does not understand sin, it's causes or how to remove it permanently. There is a way to remove sin and it's causes forever, so that we become perfect and sin no more. It is not through "faith" or by Jesus's sacrifice, those are false teachings. It is by receiving God's Love in a sufficient amount while being humble to letting go of the error, by feeling it, that removes sin from our soul.
For more information, I would point to the Divine Truth youtube channel.
Please define what YOU mean by the term 'sin'?
@@Theo_Skeptomai To sin is to miss the mark of perfect love, which is defined by God's character and nature.
In general terms, sin is any type of "energy" that is out of harmony with love. To be more specific, it is any thought, feeling, emotion, desire, intention, passion, aspiration, longing, word or action, that is out of harmony with love.
P.S. I'm not talking about a religious definition of God.
@kristijanpavlovic8605 Have you ever _directly observed_ this 'God'?
@kristijanpavlovic8605 Well, have you?
I take a shower every day because I continue to get dirty every day, there is nothing wrong with that, but sinning is continually to do something thats wrong. Similarly, if I commit a crime and get sent free from jail, should I keep committing the crime? The shower example is way different.
So it's okay if you sin - as long as you ask for forgiveness. Is that correct?
@mattr.1887 I don't know, that wouldn't sound like it would make sense though.
I agree.
The Word does also guide us or lays out the ways to the road of minimizing sin in our lives. If you don't play with dirt, you won't get dirty (associations etc). We are in a world full of sin, hanging out with sin may entice one to sin. I realised very early in my rebirth, that the human body, just like a toddler, can throw tantrums at you! Key is to show who is parent and who is the child, based on the keys given in the Word until the tantrum child is minimized. Maturity (which is a process) in the new birth eases tantrums because as you mature spiritually, the flesh is minimized in its tantrums, though still existing. It led me to see how a non believer can believe in the concept of "coexistence"(NB: in God's eyes you are one in Christ!) because it's like a "2 in 1" existance, with opposite desires and goals, but the one of choice (to self), in any given moment will have dominion! We fight the "flesh" and its wants, whilst uplifting the spirit with whom we have a greater helper, bringing us to alignment with the will of God! Malalignment happens!
Thank God for Jesus❤.