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What if Olympic rescued Titanic's Survivors? Remastered | Nautical Tales
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2024
- In this video I talk about an alternate reality where the RMS Olympic rescues RMS Titanic's passengers instead of the RMS Carpathia, also including some of my models from Stormworks: Build and Rescue!
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Imagine how it would have impacted the people on Olympic to see an almost identical ship sinking before them ,and the people from Titanic going from a dying red-hued behemoth to a perfectly lit, perfectly seaworthy twin floating proud above the lifeboats.
Would have been weird.
if i remember correctly thats one of the reasons the Olympic stopped her mission to titanic, because of the trauma for the survivors
That's ridiculous. If I was on a sinking ship I wouldn't care what ship came to our rescue even if it was a sister ship. Olympic didn't stop because of trauma from passengers. The fact was that Olympic was nowhere near the Titanic's distress location while dozens of other ships were closer and had a far better chance of reaching the Titanic. @@BillyBoiiiii
@@BillyBoiiiii You're correct. The Captain of the Carpathia sent a message to Olympic that all survivors had been picked up and that he believed it would be in the best interest of the survivors mental health if they didn't see a "twin" of the Titanic pull up.
@@BillyBoiiiii It IS.
@@kyleenglot9184 That was the reason why, people do not want to see a similar ship as the ship that took the lives of thei family members or friends
If this happened, it will also have disadvantages, and the safety onboard ships will remain the same for about years up until the sinking of Impress of Ireland, which i think will replace the role Titanic had on this timeline.
That means Lusitania would have been better well prepared for her final voyage in 1915.
@@darthbedlammasterofdueling4519 Or Lusitania would replace Titanic's role, since it had a bit more higher d£@ths than Impress of Ireland, but we don't know.
Hmm, you might be right but also wrong. If Olympic rescued in time all of Titanic passengers, there is a big chance that lifeboat matter would be dropped and it still could be treated as a mean to ferry passengers from one vessel to another, not to escape. Both Lusitania and Empress sank very rapidly and intense so lifeboat quantity wasn’t the prelimimary subject, furthermore these tragedies occured in very insecure times. So there is a chance, that only another tragedy, with similar to the Titanic loss of life and in time of piece, could change regulations thereupon.
@@marekkopton2546 Maybe, but it's fun to speculate. Considering because of the Titanic disaster, the regulation of lifeboats to be added to all passengers on board, cause the SS Eastland to sank three years later and capsized because of the weight of those lifeboats, as she was already top heavy, and also the fact that Eastland k!ll£d alot more passengers than Lusitania or Titanic based on the Smithsonian article I just read. Maybe that event will also happen or not.
(Sorry if my English is quite bad or dog sh!t)
@@marekkopton2546 Westland only killed 844 when Lusitania had 1,198 victims and Titanic had 1,500 victims.
I love this senecio on what if instead of being 505 miles away only being 58 would have made a world of difference especially both having basically the same top speed she would have made it just before the bow went under. But just imagine the sight of having Olympic sitting next to the Titanic just one thing I wish you could have covered. If the Olympic made it to Titanic an hour or so before the final plunge basing on the position you had Titanic at and the distance the two ships had would they have seen the ship break in half? If so you could explore the testimonies from the survivors and the Olympic crew as well. That can open many possibilities with Alternate History.
P.S. are you gonna make a what if Titanic never sank video? Would love to see your spin on it
Thanks, that’s something I plan on doing
First off, the Carpathia wasn't 58 miles away - she was actually 45 miles away. (Titanic's Fourth Office Joseph Boxhall had made an error in calculating Titanic's position and was 13 miles closer to Carpathia than was thought. When Captain Rostron made his claim that Carpathia made 18 knots that night - an impossibility according to the laws of hydrodynamics, based on her horsepower and the shape of her hull - he was figuring based on the time it took to actually reach the lifeboats divided into the distance to the CQD position. In fact, she averaged about 13 knots.)
The maximum speed the Olympic ever achieved was 24.2 knots; at that speed it would take her 1 hour and 52 minutes to travel 45 nautical miles.
If she received the Titanic's CQD at the same time Carpathia did (12.11am), then allowing 10 minutes to turn and work her way up to full speed the earliest she could reach Titanic's position would be 2:13am - only 7 minutes before she sank.
I'm so glad to see a remake, i really liked the original one you made.
Wonderfull video Ice! Can't wait for the ships release!
I imagine the Olympic would’ve ended up rescuing some of the Titanic’s survivors if it weren’t for Harold Cottam staying up later than usual and just wearing his headphones while on no official duty at all, just in the process of getting undressed for bed when he just accidentally heard the Titanic’s distress call.
Super video Ice! 🚢
this was considered, as Titanic was believed by many to be able to remain afloat for hours. however, sailing on the sister ship of the one that just sank from beneath them was deemed too much of an emotional trauma. it was feared Titanic passengers would not even want to go aboard
she did last hours , almost 3 infact
@BabyJesus420 the sad thing is that Britannic ended up with extra safety features as a result of the Titanic disaster and yet on November 21st 1916, she was caught off guard by a sea mine and then took a mere 55-57 minutes to keel over and sink while tearing her entire bow as far aft as the forward well deck in the process...
That's what Captain Rostron of the Carpathia said during the tragedy. He felt that the Olympic's presence would have stirred a lot of negative feelings and overall trauma for the passengers after everything. It's like how if passengers experience a near life threatening castrophic incident on a specific aircraft in today's era (ex: Boeing) with potential hazardous faults in terms of transportation safety.
@@aninkytheorist1133 the Britannic only sank as fast as she did because of where the mine detonated; it went off in just the right spot to jam a few of the watertight doors. having a lot of portholes open didn't help either
@@skyline3344 The portholes, left open by nurses to air out the wards against orders, was the real nail in the coffin of a ship that might've been salvaged once Captain Charles Barlett realized that it was pointless to try and beach her on Kea.
really really awesome vid dude
The deaths are probably still far too low. Five hundred to eight hundred would be more realistic.
Also, you missed a chance for a bit of humorous fun: Remember, Olympic was outbound from New York north of Titanic. So just picture Olympic rushing full-speed past the Californian (due north 15-18 miles from Titanic) and signaling her with morse lamp and rockets to get off her a-- and do something to help!
Olympic was west-southwest of the Titanic when she received the CQD; the direct path to either the CDQ position or the actual wreck site would not take her past the Californian, which was about 8 miles to the north of the wreck.
On the night, it was very much a question of proximity to _Titanic_ , as well as speed. Nobody can look down on Captain Rostram and the crew of _RMS Carpathia_ for pushing their ship so far beyond the speed she was normally capable of, even though that meant permanently damaging her. They very clearly understood that every moment counted when people could die from exposure and hypothermia.
The captain of _SS Californian_ also would have to live with the fact that if only he'd woken up his wireless operator, he could have easily had his ship in position to assist _Titanic_ well before she took the final plunge: A mere 10 miles and ice separated the two ships, but it was enough to make communication without a wireless practically impossible, and so he assessed the risk to his ship and crew not to be worth it, and did not act.
Interestingly, once J. Bruce Ismay was aboard _Carpathia_ , he told Captain Haddock to turn _Olympic_ around: all rescue was already completed, and the sight of _Titanic_ 's near-identical sister might traumatize the survivors, because they had just escaped death aboard such a ship, which had also claimed many lives of people they knew. Of course, if _Olympic_ could have been first on the scene, I doubt very much that Ismay and Captain Smith would have been picky about who was rescuing them. They would have even accepted assistance from _Lusitania_ and _Mauretania_ , their ships' chief competitors, if they had been the ones on the scene. If more lives could have been saved, that would be a great thing indeed, and still shipbuilding and shipping companies would have learned the same lessons.
And more people would’ve died of hypothermia if it weren’t Captain Rostron’s great rescue dashing efforts.
It really is a shame Captain Lord just didn’t want to at least try moving again while it was still dark so he just waited until around sunrise before having his wireless operator awakened to check on the messages so they could investigate further on that very suspicious event they saw happening in the distance that night. The SS Frankfurt, the ship that informed the Californian about the Titanic sinking was built to go at about the same speed as the Californian, but she was able to boost her maximum speed with her efforts like the Carpathia did while she was also trying to dash to the Titanic’s rescue.
Bruce Ismay’s decision to turn down the Olympic’s offer to carry the Titanic’s survivors was actually quite a smart decision. I can imagine how traumatizing it would’ve been for survivors to board a ship near-identical to the one they just nearly died on. Ismay also told the Olympic to pick up more lifeboats on her way back to Southampton since she didn’t have enough for everyone on board like the Titanic didn’t. Also, the Carpathia was actually built by the same company as the Lusitania and Mauretania and her captain, crew, and passengers all treated Ismay and all of the other survivors of the Titanic disaster with great hospitality so he really wasn’t picky at all about who he was rescued by and he then began to show a much softer side toward Cunard Line and even offered to reimburse them for having their Carpathia give up her voyage and weaken her parts to rescue as many people as possible from the Titanic disaster and then return to New York City with them.
To Everyone Saying "Thats Not Realistic Olymipc Was To Far Away" The Title Say WHAT IF Its Not Supposed To Be Reality Its A What If Theory
Yooooo I can’t wait
I got to say, I do love how you used Stormworks for this
I see I'm not the only one who noticed that tiny little detail
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Bro finally made a storm works video
If this happened, the passengers boarding Olympic would probably face severe trauma due to the Titanic's Near-exact layout with only, well, many changes that passengers might not notice until entering.
Missed on a "what if" photo being take as Titanic's lights go out and she's photographed in the glare of Olympic's lights breaking in two.
I think it’s very clever that you use Stormworks ships for these videos
good
Here is an idea, what if Lusitania rescue Titanic victims.
It couldn’t have been that much different from the Carpathia rescuing the Titanic survivors. The Carpathia was built by the same company as the Lusitania and the bitter rivalry between the White Star Line and Cunard Line sure didn’t stop the Carpathia from making her real mad dash to the Titanic’s rescue and I’m sure the Lusitania would’ve done the same thing as the Carpathia if she only was close enough to hear her distress call.
That Titanic looks strange;ly like the Olympic (see B deck)
It is Olympic, I just added the enclosed promenade to make it look like Titanic 😅
Amazing 🚢🚢⛵⛵
first problem is how does Olympic make it there in time?
@@SaraMorgan-ym6uein this scenario, Olympic is 58 miles away
Olympic was 500+ miles away irl during the sinking, but still headed for the site, before being told by Carpathia to resume her voyage after they rescued the survivors
@@icemonster360 That would still take too long since at a top speed of 24 knots, it would still be 2 hours and 24 minutes. Assuming she started for Titanic literally within minutes of Titanic striking the iceberg, she would arrive with 16 minutes to spare.
I think that it would be devastating for the passengers who survived titanic only to be rescued by a sister ship wich is 1 to 1 replica of the same ship they were just trying to get out
I can’t imagine anyone would have been so devastated as to refuse to board Olympic- “I’m not getting on that ship! It’s exactly like the one that’s sinking! I’d rather take my chances staying in a lifeboat or floating in the freezing water and wait for another ship to come along!”
@@stephenkehl7158 Which means you'd be dead in 15-30 minutes.
@@nowhereman1046That’s my point
Noice!
Imagine the Olympic racing towards the Titanic and also hitting an iceberg and sinking.
Same here
Sad that she never made it to her sister. However, did Olympic do all these preparations mentioned in the video, like make sure the boilers were at full speed, medics prepare, etc?
As far as I know, they did consider turning around and making an attempt to help but it was decided that because the 2 ships looked so similar (especially in the dark where they'd look virtually identical), it would only add to the distress of the survivors if they saw a ship that was practically impossible to tell apart from the vessel they'd, only a few hours ago, just watched sink beneath their feet...
Only 110 miles when Olympic didn’t continue its course to Titanic
@@jansenrafaelhonrubia4276 Yup and under Bruce Ismay’s orders, the Olympic resumed her voyage back to Southampton and picked up more lifeboats on the way since she didn’t have enough for everyone on board like the Titanic didn’t.
are you able to fix the brokeness of it on stormworks?
How did you spawn in both titanic an Olympic if it's in the addon menu?
If Olympic managed to save many people, wouldn’t it be possible for them to listen or even watched as Titanic split in two during her final plunge ?
Actually right after titanic sank the imperator became the biggest ship in the world
One thing I'm wondering bro what's with the red lights throughout Titanic I highly doubt she had red lights except on her bridge wing or wings??
The Red Lights Are The Results Of The Power Dimming, Hope This Helps!
@FAZLifez Thank You my friend I hope we get more videos like this
@@mattlorentz1988 Np
The poor Olympic lost it’s sister
Maybe u can do one with the Californian
stormworks?
What if This is real the Olympics saved the Titanic's people
😢 too bad Olympic was too far to go and help irl
You need like an animation app instead of using stormworks
Nah.
I'd be like f*ck that ship, the other one just sank! 😮😅
roblox videos?
This is just dumb simply because Olympic was a day away from reaching Titanic
That’s why in the video I said that Olympic is 58 miles away, this is a what if scenario
She wasn’t a day away from reaching her. She was about 505 miles away when she picked up her sister’s distress call and about 110 miles away when she got turned down by the Carpathia.
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY That means a day away
@@AlexandruCarjan No, it just means hours away.
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY a simple google calculation with the speed of the Olympic class plus the distance she weas from Titanic, equals 23 hours to reach Titanic.... try it for yourself
First mistake: Titanic and Olympic were over 500 miles apart, NOT the distance Carpathia was.
That’s why in the title it says “what if”
The Olympic was too far away to rescue Titanic and J Bruce Ismay didn't want an identical ship rescuing Titanic because it would ruin the White Star Line's image. The SS Calfornian was much closer to Titanic then Olympic but failed to rescue Titanic
He knows. It's not well explained, but it's part of the what-if of the scenario.
He wasn’t afraid of it ruining the White Star Line’s image, he was just worried that it would give the Titanic’s survivors greater anxiety. Just imagine boarding a ship near-identical to the one you just nearly died on.
Same here
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