What if RMS Britannic Didn't Sink in 1916? | Titanic's Sister, Alternate History

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  • Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
  • In November 1916 the third Olympic class sister ship of the White Star Line, the Britannic, struck a mine in the Kea Channel off Greece - but what if she didn't sink? In this video, the second in a trio of alternate-histories of the Olympic Class, we examine a 'what-if' history of Britannic if she'd survived her encounter with the mine - a historical fiction grounded in as much historu fact as possible!
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    0:00 Intro
    0:47 Britannic the wonder ship
    3:07 Hospital Ship Britannic
    5:56 Troopship Britannic
    8:28 Britannic in the 1920s
    12:08 The Great Depression
    16:25 WW2 Breaks Out
    19:43 The sinking of HMS Resolute
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  • @DerpyPossum
    @DerpyPossum Рік тому +621

    Britannic was a brilliant ship when first sailing as a liner in 1921. Those interiors could rival that of almost all the great ships before and after combined, imo! Shocking how there weren't many photographs taken of them.
    I'm thankful to have many photographs of the ship in my personal "Britannic" collection; the pride and joy of which being a signature dresser from the ship, still labeled "S.S. 433". It was removed by a relative of mine back in '39, who also went around the ship filling out his sketchbook with artistic documentation of its beautiful decor, which we still have.
    Shame about its inevitable sinking as "Resolute". Absolute tragedy, even.
    Thanks for bringing this important ship to light here :]
    *(In all seriousness though; my goodness was this video amazing! The quality of the animations and the overall believability of your alternate history stuff is impeccable! Also that ending was creepy as hell and I love it. You're a fantastic content creator and are endlessly talented. Please, don't ever stop doing what you do!👍)*

    • @iluquesanchez8544
      @iluquesanchez8544 Рік тому +12

      Si los interiores son mejores a los de los cruceros de hoy

    • @matthewbowen5841
      @matthewbowen5841 Рік тому +21

      I remember when James Cameron's expedition found the Britannic wreck while prepping to film Titanic back in 1995. The tie-in features leading up to Titanic's release about the search and discovery were awesome.

    • @THEMENPRODUCTIONS
      @THEMENPRODUCTIONS Рік тому +7

      @@matthewbowen5841 james cameron never found britannic?

    • @randomuser9883
      @randomuser9883 Рік тому

      @@THEMENPRODUCTIONS are you a idiot? He is supposed to play in with this universe

    • @andrewwarcup684
      @andrewwarcup684 Рік тому +12

      The wreck was discovered on 3 December 1975 by Jacques Cousteau. Cameron visited the wreck in mid 1995.

  • @thestonedabbot9551
    @thestonedabbot9551 Рік тому +495

    Fun fact, Stewardess Violet Jessop, a Titanic survivor, also served on Britannic during her time as a hospital ship. Can only imagine the relief on her face when she found out in Nov 1916 that a mine hit the ship but failed to explode. Imagine surviving Olympic's collision with HMS Hawke, THEN Titanic, THEN the sinking of the Britannic. Lol thatd be crazy

    • @volpixrossi3589
      @volpixrossi3589 Рік тому +19

      She did in fact survive all 3

    • @thisherehandleIdospout
      @thisherehandleIdospout Рік тому +24

      ​@@volpixrossi3589 Pretty sure that's why they wrote it like that, friend ;)

    • @volpixrossi3589
      @volpixrossi3589 Рік тому +4

      @@thisherehandleIdospout They wrote it that it would be interesting if she did survive all 3.

    • @MrRazerwolf
      @MrRazerwolf Рік тому +15

      @@volpixrossi3589 its called playing into the alt history in this video

    • @shadow_wolfen
      @shadow_wolfen Рік тому +8

      @@volpixrossi3589 r/woosh

  • @kommandantgalileo
    @kommandantgalileo Рік тому +1423

    What if the entirety of the Olympic class survived into the 1930s?

    • @jazzvictrola7104
      @jazzvictrola7104 Рік тому

      None of them would exist in any form today, scrapped in the 30's or at the latest at the outbreak of World War II.

    • @mrmastermax
      @mrmastermax Рік тому +61

      Good idea

    • @RealLewis
      @RealLewis Рік тому +142

      Yeah, I’d like to see a world where the Olympic class never sank.

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому +181

      They probably would have good careers into the 1930's but then as Mike suggested both Olympic and Titanic's obsolete interiors and age (Remember most ships weren't expected to be in service more than 25 years) would have caused their retirement. Brittanic might have held on a bit longer. How White Star might have fared without the loss of Titanic (which they never completely recovered from) is anyone's guess.

    • @CJsKaijuProductions
      @CJsKaijuProductions Рік тому +22

      Always would have loved to see that on UA-cam

  • @RojoFern
    @RojoFern Рік тому +93

    Jesus, these endings are like a punch in the gut.
    I keep getting so engrossed in the story that I completely forget her actual fate. When Britannic sinks in the story and the big "don't be sad it's ending, be glad that it happened" theme comes out, you sit there with this false sense of joy as Britannic is seen steaming ahead during the peak of her career.
    Then the transition hits, the music echoes, and reality creeps in. It didn't happen.

    • @pocketmarcy6990
      @pocketmarcy6990 9 місяців тому +9

      Her sinking was, fortunately, much less deadly in our reality

  • @jupitertheplanet1667
    @jupitertheplanet1667 Рік тому +139

    My grandpa was on the Britannic when it sank in 1942, he said that it was the most horrifying experience he ever had! Man, he went through a lot!

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck Рік тому +148

    Thanks for this. The Britannic has special meaning in our family as not one but two sailed on her. My Grandfather was repatriated from Egypt aboard her after WWI, and then in 1942, my Father sailed on her from England to North Africa - all the way around Cape Hope. I cried when Ballard found her in 1991.

    • @UncleRoger66
      @UncleRoger66 Рік тому

      What the brittanic sank

    • @lylec7755
      @lylec7755 Рік тому +6

      @@UncleRoger66 there was another Britannic built in the 1930s (different design of course) with a sister ship called Georgic, Both of these ships were some of the last ships that White Star operated before they were bankrupt

    • @reactive435
      @reactive435 11 місяців тому +3

      @@UncleRoger66 did you not watch the video?

  • @Maritime_History
    @Maritime_History Рік тому +302

    This has to be one of the greatest maritime what if videos on UA-cam.
    Crazy to think that 30 deaths in 1916 could have increased to 6,348 in 1942.
    Anyways, keep it up!

    • @pagmonreal
      @pagmonreal Рік тому

      hey maritime H! didnt expect to see you here! one day we will beat you on sams stream....

    • @Maritime_History
      @Maritime_History Рік тому

      @@pagmonreal Hahaha! I watch Mike's videos too.

    • @pagmonreal
      @pagmonreal Рік тому

      @@Maritime_History :)

    • @thestonedabbot9551
      @thestonedabbot9551 Рік тому

      w e
      w i l l
      d e f e a t
      y o u
      m a r i t i m e

    • @Maritime_History
      @Maritime_History Рік тому +2

      @@thestonedabbot9551 : )

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706
    @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому +358

    A great "What if?" story Mike! Sure it's fiction, but who doesn't enjoy a bit of fiction now and then? Especially when there's just a bit of "grain of truth" to make it plausable.
    Thanks! Loved it!

  • @ewanfawkes2708
    @ewanfawkes2708 Рік тому +49

    My Great Grandparents met on Britannic in 1923. It still chills me to think that had it not been for a broken mine, I might never have been here.

    • @tinypoolmodelshipyard
      @tinypoolmodelshipyard Рік тому +1

      😂 🎉

    • @JeffWayneTWOTWFan1322
      @JeffWayneTWOTWFan1322 11 місяців тому +1

      Bro Don't Know History Of Olympic Class 💀

    • @SSNormandie
      @SSNormandie 11 місяців тому +4

      @@JeffWayneTWOTWFan1322it’s a joke

    • @Gr84you
      @Gr84you 10 місяців тому +10

      @@JeffWayneTWOTWFan1322Bro didn't watched the video 💀

    • @randomuser9883
      @randomuser9883 5 місяців тому +1

      @@JeffWayneTWOTWFan1322my man have you watched the video, people are playing into this universe

  • @SulliMike23
    @SulliMike23 Рік тому +27

    My grandpa once saw the Britannic when he visited New York in 1936. He said it was the most beautiful ship he had ever laid eyes on, often joked he hoped to earn enough money to be on her one day. Sadly, he never got the chance.

    • @_walt_the_chef_
      @_walt_the_chef_ 11 місяців тому +8

      My grandpa rode on titanic in 1940 after he was injured in war.

  • @gravscool
    @gravscool Рік тому +28

    These what if videos are great, really makes you wish the Olympic Class had never suffered the way it did.

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  Рік тому +18

      I agree! A world in which all three sisters survived and sailed alongside each other is almost unimaginable!

  • @GlareAtEm
    @GlareAtEm Рік тому +94

    I love how you create fiction that is still so engaging and captures the mind of those who know of her true fate, and those who dont. Britannic deserved a story of success and longevity, even if just a fictional legend.

    • @thisherehandleIdospout
      @thisherehandleIdospout Рік тому +1

      Well-said.

    • @HrLBolle
      @HrLBolle Рік тому +3

      and according to some parts of the multi-verse theory by creating it in our plain it has become a reality in another

    • @shaynewheeler9249
      @shaynewheeler9249 10 місяців тому

      Birthday party

  • @toddbonin6926
    @toddbonin6926 Рік тому +52

    Violet Jessup had returned to service in WWII and was reassigned to a special nurses corp in North Africa. She was traveling aboard the Resolute when it was torpedoed. She was actually trapped in an aft section of the ship that quickly went under water, and she had to swim through several of the open water-tight compartments to get to a part of the ship above water. Fortunately she had become a champion swimmer after her three previous close calls on White Star Liners and had amazing breath control. She would jump from the ship and cling to floating debris until brought into a lifeboat with an interesting assortment of passengers. After the war, she took jobs on the Andrea Doria and SS Poseidon.
    Mike, you are absolutely brilliant. This is a masterpiece. I fear many people will watch and believe this to be actual history. Bravo!!!!

    • @Abbeville_Kid
      @Abbeville_Kid Рік тому +10

      Violet Jessup was the Chuck Norris of her day.

    • @Quickfire412
      @Quickfire412 Рік тому +5

      Violet Jessup truly unsinkable

  • @joshuacampbell289
    @joshuacampbell289 3 місяці тому +4

    In 1926 the Brittanic had a very eerie terrifying close call only 4 miles from where the Titanic went down. She grazed an iceberg and severely damaged her propellers. The crew tried to calm the passengers down but violence broke out on deck and took nearly 2 hours to quell. When passengers finally realized the ship was not sinking they calmed. Sadly 2 people were trampled by the raging crowd and a young boy fell overboard. Luckily for the boy he could swim very well and it was mid summer. A life jacket was thrown to him and he was rescued by second officer Terry Hawkins. The two people badly injured survived but with serious injuries. 3 men were arrested and sentenced to 3 years in prison for instigating a riot.

  • @guitarbro1969
    @guitarbro1969 Рік тому +112

    Tempting to build a scale "HMS Resolute" as some sort of fan-art. Somehow you've crossed my imagination with realistic and interesting "What -if" stories and I hope to see more of it!

    • @johnbeauvais3159
      @johnbeauvais3159 Рік тому

      If he has a full artwork for the Titanic Dazzle paint I’d probably do one as a neat “what might have been” plus the Academy 1/700 kits are cheap

    • @guitarbro1969
      @guitarbro1969 Рік тому +3

      @@johnbeauvais3159 What a display that would be wouldn't it. All 3 sisters in wartime service

    • @johnbeauvais3159
      @johnbeauvais3159 Рік тому +2

      @@guitarbro1969 I’m currently doing the 1918 paint scheme for Olympic, it’s beautiful even in miniature

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  Рік тому +15

      Would LOVE to see that if you ever get around to it!

    • @vancejamesshuart9535
      @vancejamesshuart9535 Рік тому

      @@OceanlinerDesigns if the wreck at the end is the resolute then there is a error, she has gantry davets

  • @therailfanman2078
    @therailfanman2078 Рік тому +135

    Great video as always!
    Here's some "what if?" Ideas:
    What if the entire Olympic class of ships survived
    What if the queen marry was sunk during WW2
    What if Olympic sank instead of Titanic
    What if Olympic was a hospital ship instead of a troop ship
    What if the Lusitania survived
    What if Mauritania sank instead of Lusitania
    What if Carpathia never sank
    What if Britannic was a troop ship instead
    What if white star line took over more of cunard star line instead of cunard
    What if white star was still around
    What if Olympic was never scrapped
    What if Mauritania was never scrapped
    What if the Olympic class was never built
    What if the Lusitania class of ships were never built
    What if Titanic was built before Olympic
    What if Britannic was built before Olympic and titanic
    What if Britannic was torpedoed instead of hitting a sea mine
    What if cunard built the Olympic class and white star built the Lusitania class
    What if the titanic had enough lifeboats for everyone
    What if more Olympic class ships were built
    There's some "what if?" Ideas, these are just suggestions, and you don't have to do these if you want to.

    • @stevengaming3689
      @stevengaming3689 Рік тому +6

      Some of these don't make sense

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому +7

      @@stevengaming3689 Maybe not, but they'd sure keep Mike busy! Assuming he didn't have a nervous breakdown trying to cover them all!

    • @randomscb-40charger78
      @randomscb-40charger78 Рік тому +4

      @@stevengaming3689 The "What if Titanic had enough lifeboats for everyone," question is pretty stupid. You'd have to first cover a disaster that was inquired by the British Board of Trade to modify regulations regarding lifeboats, which I can't think up of any, except the La Bourgogne, even though it was a French liner. Even if it was, it was at the time the deadliest disaster on the Atlantic, so maybe.

    • @trainsgod1042
      @trainsgod1042 Рік тому +4

      One I’d like to see is if Oceanic 3 was built

    • @TURPEG
      @TURPEG Рік тому +3

      "Brittannic hits a landmine" sounds about right

  • @LuisAngelSantos
    @LuisAngelSantos Рік тому +24

    It sucks that RMS Britannic/HMS Resolute never got to live longer than the Aquitania, scrapped in 1950.

    • @bazza945
      @bazza945 3 місяці тому +3

      Aquitania was the only four stacker to serve in WW2. I met a veteran who sailed on her from New Zealand to the Middle East.
      He ended up at the battle for Monte Casino in Italy. I remember him telling me that you didn't want to be anywhere near the USA artillery, not anywhere the USAAF was bombing, because their accuracy was worse than the enemy's.

    • @nursestoyland
      @nursestoyland Місяць тому +1

      huh, i thought it was sunk by alien tripods

  • @paulzan2246
    @paulzan2246 Рік тому +28

    I absolutely loved this video! It feels crazy seeing Britannic live a full and proper life.
    I’d love to see a ‘what if Oceanic was completed?’ video in the future.

    • @chrisinnes2128
      @chrisinnes2128 Рік тому

      Watching this that just what I was thinking tpp

  • @XmalD73
    @XmalD73 Рік тому +57

    Fascinating! Bravo, another great video, and I LOVE an alternative ocean liner history. John Maxtone-Graham does this with Normandie with his book "Crossing to Cruising" and imagines if that fire never happened. While here Britannic still meets an untimely and tragic end, it's delayed a few decades. QM and QE were fortunate never to have been sunk while trooping, this is a sobering look at what might have occurred with the sinking of a great troopship.

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому +3

      QM and QE did have the advantage of being able to make 30+ knot speeds so the danger from U-Boots was considered minimal. Brittanic was designed for MAYBE 25 knots at maximum, normal cruising would have been in the 22 to 24 knot range. So Mike's supposition of Brittanic being a U-Boot victim is entirely plausable.

    • @Kaidhicksii
      @Kaidhicksii Рік тому +1

      @@wayneantoniazzi2706 Well really, it's any ship that was incapable of making any greater than 18 knots (which is the fastest a U-Boat can travel on the surface, and since they're generally not going to be sailing on the surface where they can be seen, they'll be sailing under water, where they can't go any faster than 8 knots max) that are most vulnerable to U-Boats. So technically speaking, ships like Britannic and Lusitania, with their much higher top speed, should be alright. The only conceivable way a U-Boat could get in line with one of these liners (and even ones which are still larger and faster like the two Queens) and nail a perfect shot is if they are in position in advance and the liner comes within perfect vision of the periscope, as was the case with Britannic in this AU, or Lusitania irl.

    • @Kaidhicksii
      @Kaidhicksii Рік тому

      Wait: Crossing to Cruising had an AU? Now THAT I'm definitely going to need to read. :D

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому

      @@Kaidhicksii Certainly a U-Boot couldn't catch Britannic either surfaced and definately not submerged, but it wouldn't have to. Follow me on this.
      Britannic might have gotten away with sailing alone at a high speed during WW1. For a good shot a U-boot would have had to be in point-blank range like the one that got the Lusitania, I think it was about 500 yards from the ship, and if it wasn't that close a U-Boot captain would have had to do the math in his head as to where to aim the sub and fire the torpedoes and then keep his fingers crossed he'd got it right.
      But by WW2 things were different. Submarines had electro-mechanical computers that when fed the range, bearing, and approximate speed of the target a firing solution would be provided to the captain for a MUCH more accurate shot than a WW1 sub would have. All things considered range from the target wasn't a problem anymore, within reason of course.
      At any rate it would have been reckless and irresponsible to allow a ship of Britannic's age with 6000+ men on board to sail unescorted during WW2.
      But this is all fictional anyway so there's no point in getting hung up on the subject.

  • @xQueenTx
    @xQueenTx Рік тому +6

    This was oddly satisfying. It’s kind of nice to imagine Britannic actually getting to serve as a loner instead of as a foot note in the list of ships lost in ww1

  • @michaellennon13
    @michaellennon13 Рік тому +12

    Don't mind me. Am just here for the furious comments correcting Mike that Britannic didn't make it through WWI 🤣

  • @brandonstevens5628
    @brandonstevens5628 Рік тому +16

    watching what if videos like this makes me feel like I'm in an alternate universe. Great video as always!!

  • @elisabetta611
    @elisabetta611 Рік тому +8

    Damn, Mike, you really went ALL IN with this one. Until the end I thought...YAY, our girl finally gets the ship life she deserved until...that alternate way of her sinking and so many more lives lost. So heartbreaking.

  • @pedenharley6266
    @pedenharley6266 Рік тому +10

    Mike, another wonderful video, however, when I heard the intro, my first thought: “Wait, is Mike about to kill my grandfather?” (Short answer, no: my grandfather traveled on a liner-turned-troopship to Britain from the US in June or July of 42 - before being sent to Gibraltar in November of 42 to pick up a Spitfire and fly into theater.) It really is amazing what service the great liners gave during the war and that so many troops were safely carried across the oceans. I watched the final moments of this film in horror at what could have easily occurred.
    And thank you for not killing my grandfather. I’m rather glad to be here to watch your videos.

  • @Pez1979
    @Pez1979 Рік тому +7

    I got literal chills when I saw the three of them sailing together at the start of the video! An amazing piece of work Mike, thanks for all the good work.

  • @IntrepidMilo
    @IntrepidMilo Рік тому +26

    This is a fantastic video Mike, you gave this ship an amazing "What if" story. I would like to see a "What if" all three Olympic class liners had survived.

    • @SlidTossedPissed
      @SlidTossedPissed Рік тому +1

      Id like AT LEAST ONE to make it to present day.,

    • @randomuser9883
      @randomuser9883 Рік тому

      @@SlidTossedPissed that would be impossible

    • @randombelugaman
      @randombelugaman Рік тому

      I think The Olympic Class Ship That will make it to present Day is
      Titanic

    • @pocketmarcy6990
      @pocketmarcy6990 9 місяців тому

      @@randombelugaman2/3’s of the Olympic class liners are still recognizable, one of them no longer exists

    • @randombelugaman
      @randombelugaman 9 місяців тому

      @@pocketmarcy6990 i wish that one was around

  • @ChickVicious237
    @ChickVicious237 Рік тому +14

    This might be your best one yet, so many beautiful animations and the last few minutes were really heavy. Those metallic sounds always get me. Gorgeous video, Mike well done.

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much CV! This was a fun one to make because I got to play fast and loose with history and touch on another of my favourite subjects; WW2 history :)

    • @csxrailfan5107
      @csxrailfan5107 Рік тому

      @@OceanlinerDesigns make one where Britannic doesn’t sink ok

    • @floseatyard8063
      @floseatyard8063 Рік тому

      ​@Oceanliner Designs Mike I have a question that has been itching in the back of my head for a while now. What if cunard never bought white star? Would cunard white star line be a thing and then the companies would separate again or would it remain as the joint cunard-white star line?

  • @robbicu
    @robbicu Рік тому +9

    Great writing, research, and art! Unbelievable amount of work went into this video. Thank you very much!

  • @racerluke5412
    @racerluke5412 2 місяці тому +2

    7:41 Lower Manhattan skyline with the SINGER BUILDING. The detail of this animation is pretty much accurate 👌 ❤

  • @robertturosik416
    @robertturosik416 Рік тому +6

    I love these, rewritings of history. These new time lines, and “cause and effects” are brilliant. Very entertaining. Thanks Mike Brady

  • @kmydet
    @kmydet Рік тому +2

    probably my favorite video on the channel thus far. great storytelling, always love the "what-if" videos you produce

  • @jonathankirsch2121
    @jonathankirsch2121 Рік тому +4

    This video is everything I love about your channel! You are an incredible story teller, that cold open was perfect, all the details make sense, and I like how you made it all feel so real with the pictures and animations. It was a cool choice to have the ship sink from the rear instead of from the bow was we're familiar with. I wish you didn't have to make its demise such a tragedy, but it's still a plausible choice and I suppose wasn't technically even the Britannic at that point. It really is heartbreaking to think what could've been had history gone differently. The shot you ended on, fading to the actual wreck, was perfect too. I really think you have the best big boat channel on UA-cam 😊

  • @adeerdoes
    @adeerdoes Рік тому +9

    My gosh, that ending was so emotional, like a dream cut short by the truths of reality. Incredible "what if?" story man! If you're thinking of doing more like this I would so recommend the SS Normandie! That would be fascinating, seeing her actually serve along side the Queens ect

  • @Arp1757
    @Arp1757 Рік тому +6

    Wait,... What???
    A brilliant narrative, very carefully and thoughtfully composed. I would have bought it hook, line, and stinker if I wasn't already a fan of the Olympic class ships.
    Thanks for a fascinating tale!

  • @kid_with_a_piano
    @kid_with_a_piano Рік тому +2

    omg i've been waiting for this ever since your Titanic video!

  • @BarryAllenTheFlash.
    @BarryAllenTheFlash. Рік тому +5

    Amazing video! Keep up the good work and you will reach 100k subs soon! Every video gets better! ❤

  • @Witshyperbass
    @Witshyperbass Рік тому +5

    The way you convey this exquisite What If scenario made me think twice at the end if it actually didn't happen like this for real! Exceptional quality video once again Mike.

  • @MaritimeToast
    @MaritimeToast Рік тому +2

    Absolutely love the longer videos Mike! Such a ship as Britannic deserves a story in passenger service

  • @mrrichtalks
    @mrrichtalks Рік тому

    My favourite video of yours yet! Love these "what if" stories. Keep up the fantastic work!

  • @thepandorica1428
    @thepandorica1428 Рік тому

    Oh, Mike, you've done it again. Marvelous video. I love these what if? scenarios.

  • @91_C4_FL
    @91_C4_FL Рік тому +12

    I'd love to see a "what if all three Olympic Class liners served a full service life?"

    • @cardiffgiant9406
      @cardiffgiant9406 Рік тому +3

      Me too! In my head I just merged his 'What if Titanic hadn't sank' video with this one.

    • @91_C4_FL
      @91_C4_FL Рік тому +1

      ​@@cardiffgiant9406 Agreed! Perhaps a better topic would be "What if the three German liners didn't become war reparations?" How would a 4th option to Cunard, WS, and the French Line look after WW1? Would Germany have built their own super liner in the late 30s to match the Queens and Normandy?

    • @cardiffgiant9406
      @cardiffgiant9406 Рік тому +2

      @@91_C4_FL All great questions! I am currently building 3 trumpeter kits to be radio control and a tribute to how Ismay visioned the Olympic class sisters.

    • @zacharykim6131
      @zacharykim6131 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cardiffgiant9406
      With these two videos merged, it would be this:
      Olympic: 1910-1935
      Titanic: 1911-1930
      Britannic: 1914-1942

  • @caiomorgado1535
    @caiomorgado1535 Рік тому +7

    I feel like, if Britannic had never sunk, she would have had a very similar career to Aquitania, Cunard's response to Britannic and her direct competition. Down to surviving the Cunard-White Star merger and serving in both wars, like the video demonstrates.

  • @AlmostCH
    @AlmostCH Рік тому +2

    I discovered this channel about a week ago and I’ve been watching a lot of your videos.
    The last one I watched was on the Carpathia and it’s rescue mission (I highly recommend the video, there was a lot of information I didn’t know!)
    But the transition at the end of this video is insane

  • @TheRedPanda.
    @TheRedPanda. Рік тому

    This is the video I've been waiting for
    Fantastic job! 👍

  • @S3JUN3
    @S3JUN3 Рік тому +3

    Wonders just a wonder your animations and story telling has improved so much keep the good work up. Also first!!!!

  • @zach_smith
    @zach_smith Рік тому +35

    This story does sound great! Though, if the ship did survive World War 2 somehow, would it have just been scrapped right away afterwards?
    I agree with another comment I seen here, I'd like to see a what if video about what if the Titanic and Britannic both survived, so that the Olympic Class ships didn't sink.
    Though they'd likely have not made it past the 30s, it could be interesting to speculate what would have happened if all 3 did somehow make it past the 1930s.

    • @randomrazr
      @randomrazr Рік тому +3

      aquatania was

    • @michaeldemarco9950
      @michaeldemarco9950 Рік тому

      What if Britannic had survived 1916?
      Her life would have mirrored that of her older sister, Olympic, and she would not have survived the Cunard/White Star merger, and been retired and scrapped in the late 1930s.

    • @randombelugaman
      @randombelugaman Рік тому

      That’s not true she will be a hotel

    • @randomuser9883
      @randomuser9883 Рік тому +4

      @@michaeldemarco9950 idk man her high number of private state rooms would’ve meant that she would still be a earner. Also she was cheaper to run. Though had she made it into ww2 and survived she would’ve been scrapped by about 1948 after finishing service of transporting war brides.

    • @SevCaswell
      @SevCaswell Рік тому

      @@randomuser9883 I think she would probably have been converted to a migrant ship had she survived WWII, as even the most unsuitable ships were pressed into that service.

  • @davicoo69
    @davicoo69 5 місяців тому +1

    Hi Mike.
    I've now watched both your alternate histories for Titanic and Britannic, respectively They're both incredibly creative, and imaginative. Your both a great story teller, and and informative historian. I've really enjoyed both of these wonderful presentations... Thank you.

  • @imakeboatsifudidntknow
    @imakeboatsifudidntknow Рік тому +2

    These videos keep getting better every single upload!

  • @themainSign
    @themainSign Рік тому +3

    In 1984, roughly a year before Titanic was found, Robert Ballard accidently stumbled on Britannic's wreck andmisidentified her at first, though it was quickly corrected. It sparked interest the ship enough that James Cameron made a sequel of sorts to his blockbuster hit Titanic in 2005 with the premise being Rose having a son that served aboard and fell enlove with a stowayay nurse from Germany. Sadly it didn't become as much of a hit, but it's still a great film with lots of period accurate sets!

  • @cunard61
    @cunard61 Рік тому +7

    Interesting that the loss of life was almost identical to the loss on the Lancastria in 1940. The Admiralty kept that real and horrific loss a secret for a long time after the sinking as well.

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  Рік тому +5

      Quite right cunard61! The Lancastria disaster was a source of creative inspiration for this video.

    • @vancejamesshuart9535
      @vancejamesshuart9535 Рік тому

      @@OceanlinerDesigns hey Mike there is a error in the video, if the wreck at the end is the resolute then she has gantry davets

    • @galoon
      @galoon Рік тому +2

      @@OceanlinerDesigns I was thinking the same thing! It would have been in the realm of possibility that, had it not been for the Britannic's loss in the Great War, that the Lancastria disaster might have befallen her instead. You did a great job weaving the Britannic's alternate history into the real world of European ocean liners in the 1920s and '30s!

  • @jerrykirchoff8412
    @jerrykirchoff8412 Рік тому

    Mike job well done. It kept me interested the whole way through. Well written and well presented. Your drawings as always looked fantastic.

  • @fernandezseitonv
    @fernandezseitonv Рік тому

    Been waiting for this!! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @cloverboy1351
    @cloverboy1351 Рік тому +5

    I love these what if stories of ocean liners! it's so rare to see in the first place. love your work!
    Heya mike! there's this book called "timewreck titanic" by Rhys B. Davies. it's about a what if scenario; a bunch of ships in an alternate timeline rescue the titanic. don't have to make a video on this, it just sounds like a cool read. i've never seen any video or mention about this, but the concept of the story sounds good. didn't know where else to share this, i don't have much friends interested in ocean liners lol.

  • @white_star_line_mc4463
    @white_star_line_mc4463 Рік тому +8

    What if all three Olympic class had long careers?

  • @patrickhavice4541
    @patrickhavice4541 Рік тому

    I love it when you do videos like this! From one of your first subscribers, I have to say I'm thoroughly impressed with your content. Thank you for everything you do!

  • @trainstorm1225
    @trainstorm1225 Рік тому +1

    I really admire the effort put towards your “What If” videos! Everything you put forward sounds logical and you can tell how much research you put into it to make it sound that way. I also love the fact that you don’t even acknowledge Britannic’s sinking in 1916 and act like this story really happened. Super clever! Hope to see more content like this!

  • @Peekarica
    @Peekarica Рік тому +5

    We could only imagine what would have happened if the Resolute, formerly known as Britannic survived World War 2. Would she have run with Aquitania together as Trans-Atlantic running mates or cruise voyages?
    Imagine if you made a fiction video about how Queen Mary 2 gets turn into a hospital ship along with others, because of the large scale of Ukraine's war and the lack of electricity and hospital service in Ukraine itself. Or you could make a video about a fiction ship such as Artanic. It has a long lifespan of eight years now, lots of background story to this ship. Still a very great video about Britannic. Its always interesting to work out scenarios about 'What if...', the 'What if Titanic didn't sank' was also a very great video! Thank you!

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman Рік тому +4

    Man, what a delightful story! I love these videos, and this one's just excellent!
    I wish that Britannic had gotten a real career. Perhaps not to this extent, but geez. Just a bit of real service would be great.
    I think the obvious next steps are:
    "What if Lusitania didn't sink?"
    "What if the Olympic trio stayed afloat?"
    "What if British shipping lost no ships in WWI?"
    And, of course:
    "What would ocean shipping be like if WWI never happened?"
    That last one's different because the German liners were taken from Germany; in that scenario, they would stay with Germany, and things would be drastically different.

  • @angellight495
    @angellight495 Рік тому

    I am loving this! I hope you continue it as a series on other lost liners. 2 personally I would love to see are the Normandie & the Empress of Britain. Thanks again!

  • @rafidkarim4061
    @rafidkarim4061 Рік тому +1

    Great alternate history of the Brittanic Mike Great work keep it up ❤

  • @thenerd5992
    @thenerd5992 Рік тому +3

    “What if the MV Oceanic III was finished and never abandoned?” I want this to be in a reality in which the Queen Mary was still built, and the two super liners served the Cunard-White Star alongside each other.

  • @m0nsterzer0
    @m0nsterzer0 Рік тому +3

    The endings to both this and the what if for Titanic with the transition from the ship sailing to a view of the wreck are simply haunting. Good stuff.
    Love your work, Mike! Keep it going!

  • @Straswa
    @Straswa 11 місяців тому

    Amazing vid Oceanliner Designs. A fascinating what-if vid.
    Britannic was such a great ship, she's my favorite liner.

  • @alankeith7866
    @alankeith7866 Рік тому

    I really enjoy your "what if" videos! Great work once again!!

  • @joemayo8254
    @joemayo8254 Рік тому +5

    Another excellent "what-if" scenario, Mike. The scenario you came up with for Britannic feels even more plausible than the one from your "What If Titanic Never Sank?" video. Do you plan on uploading the profiles you made of Britannic to your website the way you did with the profiles you made of Titanic and/or making them available for purchase in your store?

  • @mrkrik3y142
    @mrkrik3y142 10 місяців тому +6

    What If Lusitania never sank

  • @MisatoBestWoman
    @MisatoBestWoman Рік тому +1

    Truly amazing alternate history scenario!
    Quality content every time

  • @KevsterWilson
    @KevsterWilson Рік тому

    Absolute fantastic story & had me hooked all the way through! Love these alternate stories.

  • @MiniMC546
    @MiniMC546 Рік тому +3

    What if scenario:
    Olympic is the one that sinks and Titanic and Britannic survive
    RMMV Oceanic was built and saved WSL

  • @FDRsuite
    @FDRsuite Рік тому +4

    Oh, Mike, you killed her off again! Couldn't she have just ended up as a sea-side attraction in Brighton?

    • @Truecrimeresearcher224
      @Truecrimeresearcher224 Рік тому +2

      it would be nice. like they could have put Olympic somewhere as a museum since it survived where the other two didn't. brittanic was a result of war so that one couldn't be helped. titanic well we know that story

  • @KaitlynnUK
    @KaitlynnUK Рік тому +1

    Tha animations in your videos are superb and a great aid in telling the stories. Thank you.

  • @kimikriggs1966
    @kimikriggs1966 Рік тому +1

    I became so involved that when it was over I questioned the title of the video. I had forgotten it was historical fiction. Well done!

  • @Weststudio87
    @Weststudio87 Рік тому +3

    I’m fascinated by these videos! What do you think would have happened if it was either of the Olympic class survivors docked off California instead of the queen Mary?

  • @MrBibi86
    @MrBibi86 Рік тому +9

    *Great videos mate. I'm shocked James Cameron has not dived the Britannic given it's mostly intact*

    • @stefaneer9120
      @stefaneer9120 Рік тому +1

      He made a Documentary about the Bismarck and the Titanic. By the way, the Bismarck was in the White Star Line too. So why James Cameron shouldn't make a Britannic documentary.

    • @browncoatkevin
      @browncoatkevin Рік тому +1

      The Bismarck I know of was a German battleship in WW2, sunk handily by having a critical weak point on its rudder. Still, she did make the HMS Hood explode by detonating her magazine, so her extremely brief time at war was not wholly unproductive for the Nazi regime.

    • @vacaalbahaca5485
      @vacaalbahaca5485 Рік тому

      @@browncoatkevin there was liner called, SS Bismarck, u smartypants

  • @Arian1912wasright
    @Arian1912wasright Рік тому +1

    Love the alternate history video Mike keep at it

  • @monsieurcommissaire1628
    @monsieurcommissaire1628 Рік тому +2

    I'm already a fan, but I must say:
    You, sir, are brilliant!
    Thank you once again, Mr. Brady.

  • @NonsensicalNauticalRambings
    @NonsensicalNauticalRambings Рік тому +3

    Amazing video! I have a suggestion, and it’s What if Oceanic II never sank. It may seem like not much would have changed, but I feel like it may result in White Star being a dominant company during the Cunard merger.

  • @Henri_Hilarious
    @Henri_Hilarious 4 місяці тому +3

    I wish this was reality

  • @gibboman
    @gibboman Рік тому

    Absolutely fantastic videos. Only discovered this weekend but have watched loads already. Thankyou 🙂👌

  • @hesseltjeb
    @hesseltjeb Рік тому

    Amazing video as always!

  • @MrBibi86
    @MrBibi86 Рік тому +5

    *It was a huge mistake scrapping the Olympic. Imagine if you could visit or stay on the Olympic like you can the Queen Mary*

    • @skyline3344
      @skyline3344 Рік тому +1

      I wish it hadn't happened but then again, it did create jobs during the depression I guess

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 Рік тому +1

      It takes big, BIG money to preserve a ship, especially one almost 900 feet long, and they just weren't thinking that way back in the 1930's. No-one had the money either.
      A more plausable scenario would have been preserving the bridge as a walk-through museum display of the Olympic class ships and MAYBE one of the engines.

    • @cunard61
      @cunard61 Рік тому +2

      There's no way of knowing if the Olympic would survive service through WW2, but there's no question she would have been taken over for military duty if she were still in existence in 1939.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 6 місяців тому

      ​@@cunard61 it be surprising if both Olympic and Mauretania were spared the scrapping to only see service in ww2.

  • @HorribleHarry
    @HorribleHarry Рік тому +1

    Wonderful. A realistic story with all the highs and lows. Thank you for making this.

  • @fano081
    @fano081 Рік тому

    Just love your work with this it made me cry just a great work/job you do ocean!!!

  • @Robwantsacurry
    @Robwantsacurry Рік тому

    This is a wonderful alternate history, detailed well researched and most enjoyable.

  • @crispyorsmthnidk5314
    @crispyorsmthnidk5314 Рік тому

    Your visuals and story telling skills improve each time, well done!

  • @ericcrockett479
    @ericcrockett479 Рік тому

    What a wonderfully told alternate history, keep up the good work!!!!!

  • @tomdixon7264
    @tomdixon7264 6 місяців тому +1

    Alternate history is one of my favorite excursions, especially when it is plausibly tied to world events. Very well done.

  • @andrewoliver8500
    @andrewoliver8500 Рік тому

    This was awesome. Very well done! I enjoyed this bit of alt history alot

  • @SlidTossedPissed
    @SlidTossedPissed Рік тому +1

    *MIND BLOWN*
    Ive had some time to think this video out and its really blown my mind.
    1. FOR YEARS, Ive been trying to figure out what role the Brittanic played as the Sister ship and how she got brought into the war.
    2. I never knew Olympic was THAT fast.. sure Titanic had power "Id guess"... but we never saw that demonstrated. I didnt know that Olympic wasnt a Red Cross ship... and that Brittanic was. I also never knew about Olympic's Dazzle Paint job.
    Dude..
    HATS off to you. I gotta find some dough to give to you. I definately gotta scounge up some dough for one of your prints for Xmas.
    Your animations, drawings.. videos are top notch. Factual, interesting... I mean damn.
    Now, Great GOOGILY MOOGILY!!!!
    Ya give the Brittannic a, "Get out of The BREAKERS Yard free" card... but ya put her in a line of sight with some NazI U-Boat carrying 7,000 souls?!
    DAMN.
    I gotta watch this again... this sounds almost FEASIBLE!
    P.S
    Initially.. I thought Cunard (being the one who comes out ahead) and White Star "merged" because Cunard had more ships. Is it even possible for White Star to still be around... even with that scenario? What scenario would have to exist.. for ONE of the Sisters to still be around AND have a lasting effect on society as a whole?
    Also..
    I think it was you or Titanic Honor and Glory who mentioned H and W. I tore through that book like I was ON FIRE. If you look at the blueprints of the property going back to 1930... and you see the mess of consumer shit in the area NOW, its mind blowing.
    Dude.. you are DAMN ON POINT~! NOICE JOB!

  • @KiwiSentinel
    @KiwiSentinel Рік тому

    I'm enjoying these alt histories and you are making quite an art of them.

  • @EggGuy461
    @EggGuy461 Рік тому +1

    YES! I was hoping someone would do this!

  • @BismartanicSFM
    @BismartanicSFM Рік тому +1

    That is an incredibly story of what if ships, Mike!!!!

  • @KarlstadDrums
    @KarlstadDrums Рік тому

    You deserve way more subs and views! These videos are top class! Just the same or even better production than most channels with more than 1million subs. Stay at it!

  • @MrDakdude
    @MrDakdude Рік тому +1

    How has youtube only just recommended this channel??? Awesome content lad

  • @nonmongolianchicken847
    @nonmongolianchicken847 Рік тому +1

    I really like how immersive this alternate universe is. From the video and the comments, it all feels 100% authentic.

  • @myjinji8079
    @myjinji8079 11 місяців тому

    Thanks as always Mike!

  • @TM_2024GO
    @TM_2024GO Рік тому +1

    AMAZING VIDEO! TOTALLY MAKES SENSE!

  • @mattsandow3048
    @mattsandow3048 Рік тому

    Another amazing video i love how these videos are presented

  • @evilchaosboy
    @evilchaosboy Рік тому +2

    Fantastic tale! I'm a newer subsciber, but I've steamed though a great deal of your show at Full Ahead speed. I hope you continue to Captain the Oceanliner "Designs" for many more voyages to come! (I would gladly see you off on your great Atlantic adventures, but I would remain on firm ground. You see, as a wee lad I watched "A Night to Remember" and have been "scarred" ever since!
    Oddly enough, I have no problem with Air or Train travel. Well done, Skipper! \m/

  • @jayive34
    @jayive34 Рік тому +1

    I get Goosebumps just listening to this, and it's entirely fictitious.
    Great narration.