How to Catch Whiting on Soft Plastics with Fishing Mad
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- A step by step technique specific fishing video on How to Catch Whiting on Soft Plastics with Alan from Fishing Mad. In this video we run you through rig setup, gear selection, rigging technique, fishing action to catch a bag off king george whiting. A unique take on whiting fishing great for experienced anglers and beginners.
Gear used
Berkley 4 inch turtleback worm
1/12 tt headlocks jig head
Southern Edge Lures custom stinger assist hook size 6
2-5 kilo spin rod
2500 spin reel
10lb braid and 10lb fluorocarbon leader
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Great vid Allan, those jigheads you're using are actually called TT Lures SwimlockZ & have the connection point under the head where the Headlockz don't. Just thought I'd let you know. Cheers
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Looks like they are headlockz with an assist hook eye on the bottom. Thanks for clarifying
Is there anyway i can maybe contact you about this soft plastic fishing me and my mate fish in Busselton
Feel free to reach out to me directly at alan@fishingmad.com.au cheers
Great video Allan. Do you think that it might work here in Nerang River at Gold Coast QLD?
Hey Alan. Just received my Southern Edge Whiting lures today. Jason was brilliant and helpful. The hooks arrived in record time. I am going to have Jason make up some Stinger hooks for me for Flathead but he asked me for the hook and Jig head size and lure size. I am going to be able to give him the lure size but am going to have to nut out the jighead and hook sizes. BTW mate; is it possible to fish for Whiting from jetties as I cannot afford a Kayak at this time. Thanks for all your help mate.
Great to hear you had a good experience with Jason. Yeah those stinger hooks are excellent. 100% you can catch whiting from the beach or jetties. Ive caught plenty around the piers of bellrine peninsula and west port
@@fishingmad Many thanks for getting back to me so soon Alan, I am just getting all my rods and tackle ready hopefully to get out there next week. It has been ages since I have had a chance to fish as I had a bad stroke back in 2017 followed by a massive heart attack and triple by pass in October 2019. I cannot wait mate, and I have you to thank for rekindling my interest. Many thanks indeed.
Excellent video thanks for putting this together great content. Do you have a link to the double eyed tt headlock jig heads. Thank very much
I get them custom made from Jason at Southern Edge Lures, he has a FB page, just send him a DM and im sure he will look after you. Cheers
Hi Allan. They say no run no fun for KG whiting. How do you get these down to the bottom without sinker and running tide? Fish closer to slack tide? Will certainly give it a go.
Yeah, that's exactly right, This technique can be very difficult in very tidal waters. I plan my day to fish an hour on each side of the slack tide in tidal waters, Thankfully where I fish in PPB there is bugger all tidal flow so you don't have to worry about that too much.
Successful but expensive! BCF sell 1 worm for $11.99. That's some very expensive whiting.
I think you may have looked up the wrong thing. Turtleback worms are $10 or $11 a packet and you get about 10 of them per packet. So much cheaper then pipis.
Alan, I know it's a late comment but this was a very informative video.
We're at Monkey Mia at Shark Bay in WA and have had some great sessions catching the local sand whiting and other species using the Berkeley Gulp Turtleback worms. What a great bait. Thanks Alan 👍
Can’t get the 4 inch camo turtle back anywhere…… been trying for 2 months to get my hands on some…..none in Sydney😏
Yeah no idea what Berkley are doing at the moment. We cant get stock of them anywhere either.
It’s so frustrating, it’s winter, I spent a whole afternoon launching from Altona boat ramp down to Point Cook, also stopped half way there in 2.5m of water in sandy/weedy. Had mussels and chicken and had no touch on despite a burley bucket. Still has some fun with 20 undersize pinkies, 10-15 undersize flatties and just 3 keepers. But no glimpse of KGW.
Altona is not a renowned sot for KG Whiting, need to fish weedbeds closer to the heads on either peninsula
Thanks a lot for this video! Ive tried fishing around with top waters in shallow waters but had no luck. Would this setup work land based at beaches? I normally fish around piers/jettys but have only seen tiny baby whitings from shore. Im really interested in knowing more about whiting, thanks!
Your very welcome, yeah i have found this strategy very successful even in areas that looks good for top water fishing in the shallows, just drop the jig head weight to as low as you can go that gives you ok casting distance and I'm sure you'll catch plenty. Cheers
Hi Al, finally got around to picking up my rigs from Jason at Southern Edge Lures. Amazing he lives just around the corner from me. This video has been such an inspiration and demonstration to try things outside of the norm and step away from what we are traditionally comfortable with. Can't wait to give it a go and highly recommend people get in touch with Jason with the understanding he is a one-man operation so give him a some time with orders as everything is hand made. Just like yourself, his passion and knowledge for everything fishing is infectious and he is a ripper bloke at the same time. Keep up the great content mate!
Thanks Travis !! I'm really glad you got inspired by the content and that Jason was able to help you out. Good luck out there hope ya catch plenty.
Hey Al, tried these rigs off the St. Leonard’s pier over the weekend after realising I forgot my squid jigs. Caught a heap of grass whiting and a few leather jackets so can’t wait to get out there and actually chase some KGW. Thank you for sharing this unique method for targeting whiting…plus many other species as well.
Great fishing video, taught me a lot and looked like a good day out on the water.
Glad you enjoyed it, and yes was a sensational day on the water
Where do I find the jig heads with dual eyelets? Is that a do it yourself thing?
I had them custom made up by on the edge lures, they worked great so they now sell these ontheedgelures.com.au/shop/whiting-stinger-assist-hooks
what jighead size would you use if you dont have an assist hooks?
1/8 2-0
Hello, very informative video, wouldn't a small treble as the stinger be more affective?
Does this work from the beach surf fishing??
Yes 100% it does work from the beach, just need to increase the jig head weight if you need more casting distance
Hey Allan I’m getting a new reel and I don’t know if I should get it spooled with braid or fluorocarbon because I want to be able to skip soft plastics and cast light lures and soft plastics. What should I do?
100% spool it with braid and finish with 1-rod length of fluorocarbon leader.
@@fishingmad thanks for your help Alan really appreciated.
Any suggested alternative to the 4 inch turtle back? Impossible to get them any more. Sandworm??
Yep 4 inch fat hollow sandworm. No idea why Berkley aren't making the turtlebacks now. Big mistake if they stop making them
@@fishingmad Cheers. If anyone is interested BCF up here told me Lawnton BCF has some on clearance for $2 a packet. I tried to get them to send them up but they wouldn't. Maybe some can be found in bottom of clearance bin.
Would you use the same setup for proper size KG Whiting that we get here on the Yorke Peninsula in South Australia, ie. the Kidney Slappers, 50+ cm KG's ?
Yep 100% the same setup. 2-5 kilo rod, 2500 size reel. You could up the strength of the line and leader if you felt like you needed to go stronger
@@fishingmad Awesome. I've never really had much luck with soft plastics, but I am learning quite a few good tips from your vids, appreciate the work dude !
Think this would work in surf gutters?
Yep 100%, may just need to use a heavier jig head if its not getting down to the bottom
Great vid, I’ve never tried to catch whiting on plastics I’ll have to give it a go tho looks like lots of fun! How’s ur electric motor going? :)
Yeah catching whiting on plastics is amazing, my preferred method. Just need to pick the right locations with low current. The electric has had its ups and downs ive pretty much got it right now, will have some content to share on that next week.
G'Day Alan, great content as always. I'm on a mission to get a feed of Whiting on surface lures at the moment. How many of those plastics do you go through in a epic session like this? ~FishOn
Thanks !! In this session I went through 2 packets of turtlebacks which is pretty common when chasing them on plastics. I always have 3 or 4 packets on me just incase.
BCF sell 1 worm for $11.99 or 3 worms for $29 lol
Great video Allan. So good to see and hear that whiting can be targeted with success on soft plastic's. I mainly use surface or traditional yabbies, but have struggled with plastic's. Thanks for sharing your video and idea's.
Thanks you a very welcome. Yeah I agree historically I've used surface lures with stingers like the slippery dogs and sugarpens or 2.5 inch yabbies
Nice video. Great info! Hello from Canada and nice to meet the channel!
Amazing thank you, hello from Australia
Thanks for the tips, definitely going to try that rig for different species! Have a great weekend!
Thanks David, the technique works great Good luck out on the water.
absolutely Brillant mate.
I am going to try this off the beach
Very informative video Alan, soft plastics are a very underrated way to catch whiting! I've been playing around at home and making up some of my own assist hook rigs and I'm super pumped to give them a crack sometime soon!
Tight lines
Always for me the hardbodies for Whiting, Bassday Sugapens and even a lot of the shallow diving hardbodies like Atomic Cranks, fitted instead of back treble with little size 8-10 assist hooks. Hit the flats with these and Bob’s yr uncle.
Agreed in the shallow flats those options are dynamite and such a fun way of fishing.
Hay Alan, I can't find the TT SWIMLOCKZ JIG HEAD
In smaller sizes
Ive had to get mine custom made from Southern Edge Lures as the TT headlocks ones were to big, or run a leader/trace from the same eyelit on the jighead
Hehhehehe I’m first again
Legend !! Enjoy this this a good one
Damn. well played sir. Was loading tinny for redfin tomorrow
Hi Alan
Stinger hooks! Great idea but I had a problem buying the swimlockz. Only available in monster sizes and no good for small jigheads.
My fix was to feed one end of a leader through the small eye on the jig head and then feed it back through the same hole. This gave you a loop on one side and two free ends on the other. I used fluro but your choice.
Take the loop and form a simple Palomar knot over the jig head. Result is a solid knot which won't move. Take one of the free ends and tie a stinger to it and to the other end tie a loop knot or a swivel. You can have this end as long as you want.
Most informative vids you have here Alan.
Cheers
Alan H
Hi Al, yeah i also found the swimlockz jigheads to be way to big. That's why i had the guys at Southern edge lures custom make them for me and im also making and expiramenting with some of my own now. You can certainly experiments with the length of the stinger and positioning of the hooks and knots. I always found most consistent for catch rates was 6 to 8 cm down from the top of the jig head which also didnt seem to impact the plastics swimming action to much.
Great vid Alan, I've struggled with soft plastics and I've stuck to bait, I think I might give it another crack, love the idea with the stinger hook, keep up the awesome work mate 👍
Thank you, I hope the tips help get you onto a few good fish on plastics once again
I was the same but I worked out sp’s and now almost never use bait. Keep at it!😁
Hi Alan, just a question, how do you not get snagged when you're casting into the weeds? Is the worm hitting the bottom?
Occasionally you will get snagged, but getting it down to the bottom in those areas are important to catch rates. If you get snagged you can often free it by moving over the area that its stuck.
This guy is a show off.......I mean that in a nice way 😁
Hi Allan, I am planning on getting that Shimano t curve premium but I don't know what reel to pair with it. what reel are you using in this video?
Hi Charlie, I was using a Shimano Sustain 2500. You may also want to consider the Vanford as an awesome cheaper option.
Hey mate is there any where I can order those jig heads ? And also using the same set up would it be efficient for yellowtails ?
I had the jig heads made up by southern edge lures, they now make them and sell them directly on thier website. They work great for a whole range of species.
whitings in america look totally different!
Fantastic Alan great video and advice..I'm going to get my new kayak soon and going to be my first time on the water...will you let me ride along and get some tips...just to build up my condolences?
Hi Jospeh I hope you are very well. I take FishingMad members out with me frequently to build up there skills and confidence and introduce them to other locals. I just ask that those joining me are FishingMad members. Feel free to contact me directly on alan@fishingmad.com.au cheers
Excellent mate just ordered fisrt batch cheers
Went in at Hillarys on Sunday chasing a feed of whiting with paternoster rig and squid bait. Boated herring & skippy & threw back heaps of under size pink snapper. We could see the schools of whiting and they were sucking the squid clean off the hooks and did not hook up one. On the way back in I was wondering about targeting with soft plastics and this vid came up on my feed, so good timing, thanks for the detailed vid.
Brilliant, glad to hear it. Great timing, i hope it helps.
Great video , used exactly your rig/technique on west coast of SA. Didnt even need to twitch , not only did work extremely well but attracted the bigger fish compared to bait ....thank!!
That's brilliant, So Glad it helped!
Mate do you think that technique would work on sand whiting? I'm in Sydney and there is no king George here.
100% will also work on sand whiting
Any plans for a surf rod video in the near future? Would be a great help to get some guidance for a new outfit hitting the surf in the Melbourne area. Great video as always, looking forward for next week's one! Cheers
Yes 100%, just recording can be really difficult in the surf. The audio and cameras can be quite difficult, but will suss out some spots and give it a go soon
Hi Alan, let my say it:wow Whiting on soft plastics never seen before and I was totally ignored this. Just awesome, you are a genius Alan 👏 😀 ciao ciao have a good one buddy 🤗👋👋
Thank you so much Mario, I hope it helps you land a few whiting ! have a great night
Very informative many thanks for sharing cheers from Wal at Woolgoolga 👍😎
Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant video! Well done.
Wow, Thanks Starlo. Chuffed to get a message from you, Thanks for being a such a Fishing Legend that's inspired so many !!
Excellent video, Alan!!👍👍
Very educational as always!! Thank you so much for sharing!!🙏🙏
Enjoyed watching every moment of it!!👏👏👏
Thank you so much for the kind words. I'm really glad you enjoyed it !!
Great video.
Did u get any hookups on the jig head?
I’d love the try feeding this through the jig eye as an easy inu rig.
Cheers
Nah on that day all the hooks ups were on the stinger hooks other than one puffer fish which engulfed the whole thing.
Can’t believe how well they work in western port had some great success with this technique. Cheers Alan
Fantastic, that's awesome to hear as WP is significantly more tidal. Well done !!
Going to have to give this a try. Thanks
Mate this is the first time seeing this technique being used to catch whiting...Very effective.
Glad you enjoyed it. Its an amazing technique which works well. I have done this successfully for many years now
I must make that rig I'm learning to filet whiting
Great video mate, I'm wondering how you could get a soft plastic down in western port :P Would love to try it...
Its a great question. Its much more challenging in parts of West Port this technique because of the very strong currents. You either need to do this during slack tide 30 minutes each side of tide change or pick an area that's sheltered and shallow where your jig head has a chance of hitting the bottom. Get those things right and you can catch plenty with this techniques.
Loving your channel mate. I've never really had any success with soft plastics but I feel that I've learned so much from your videos - really explaining the basics - that I'm confident that I'll do well when I head to the coast in a couple of weeks. Keep it up!
Thanks, Im really glad the channel has been helpful for you. Got some great content on the way so stay tuned for that.
I always enjoy your video. Very informative as usual. Thanks
Thank you so much !!
Great Job love your videos I was wondering where you are fishing would love to check it out and have a go
Thank you, we share all our locations, reports and GPS marks in our members area to help get you right onto the right areas that can be seen here fishingmad.com.au/member cheers
Great Vlog again Alan , I will try that set up with the turtleback worm and the stinger hook. Thanks mate 👏👍
Thanks Martin, its a great technique and works really well in particular locations, shallow waters, low current and weedy patches.
I love the turtlble back worm. If nothing else bites, the fish don't bite.
Agreed Turtleback worms are on of my favourites for a whole range of species
Awesome video again Alan. I will definitely give this a go. Hopefully improve my whiting hook up rate
Awesome Damian, glad to hear it. Good luck, let us know if you need any tips
So envious. I'm relatively new to fishing and tips like this are valuable.
Glad it was helpful! The aim of our channel and members area is all about sharing tips so people just like you can go out and have the same results without crazy expense. Glad you enjoyed it
I reckon them other blokes, like damn why you keep releasing them. 😂😂 Where not catching them. We want to eat them. You keep catching them just releasing As you don't want to eat them. It's not all about fishing, and bringing them home to eat it's all about the experience. Even catching them in just releasing them is the best bit about fishing, too.
LOL yeah I get this heaps, sometimes people get cranky with you when your catching and releasing plenty. I don't mind a good feed but i just enjoy catching more then anything
@fishingmad I love releasing them but when I'm hungry I would take at home. Ecspecially when I love going out there in just throwing out a whole pile of food for the fish and just watching them just go for the food it's fascinating how I see the little ones to the bigger one's are eating.
Hey mate, I don’t know weather you will see this but I was wondering if you had any good fishing spots for port Philip bay accessible by kayak. I’m from Ballarat and look at going for a day trip over the school holidays to get some pinky’s, witting or squid. Thanks
Hi Joshua, yeah there is many great spots accessible by kayak like places such as Campbells Cove, Mornington etc. There is a FishingMad members area which has a map that shows over 100 kayak launch spots and 100 GPS marks of productive kayak fishable areas by a kayak it might be worth checking that out fishingmad.com.au/member cheers
@@fishingmad thanks mate will be sure to. Also as it turns out I will also be going to port Campbell for 4 days so I should be able to some squid and whiteing as well. Thanks for responding and loving the vids keep it up 👍 and lake Wendouree is amazing at the moment for reds and trout
Your an absolute champion Alan! Really enjoy your advice mate 🍺
Thank you kindly Jarrod, I really appreciate it.
Fantastic matter. You've achieved something that a lot of us have never thought of actually trying to do.
Thanks !! Yeah its been a work in progress to get the technique right and to dedicate some time to filming it, but it works great. As you know I much prefer catching anything with plastics and light spin rod so its worth the time and effort. Might be worth a bait vs plastics vid on whiting at some stage
Hi Alan, new to fishing. Can you setup the soft plastics in advance and how long to they stay good for. Just conscious that it would take me about 20 minutes on the kayak to setup with the jig etc.
Yes you can setup everything in advance before you hit the water. The only exception is scented soft plastics like the berkley stuff as they dry up and go hard very quickly. Other brands like zmans are no problems
@@fishingmad thanks!! any other recommendations to the gulp 4” worms because these are nearly impossible to get these days
Thank you for sharing this video with us. I am keen to try this SP setup with assist hook.
Glad it was helpful!
Is it not a swimlockz jighead ? Size 1/0
Yes same concept, these ones were headlocks modified but the swimlocks are very similar and would work just aswell
Very interesting , how do you tie or set up this assist hook?? Thanks
Its ok just saw how you did it. Very good 😉👍
Always get a lot of value out of your vids. Cheers bud.
Much appreciated
what plastics are they?
hi Al, can we buy just the twin tie point jigheads ? would love to have a go at rigging some of these myself
Hi Murray, I had the guys from Southern Edge lures custom make these for me. They now sell them on there website or you can just run leader from the same eye on the jig head
@@fishingmad thanks Al for the quick reply will check them out, you have been a great help teaching me your way of tieing the whiting paternoster rigs so thank you
Remarkable Alan. You’re some fisherman…
Thank you Eddie !!
Cheers Mate.
Hi mate, loved the video with the stinger hooks can you just tie a uni knot to your Jighead and run a 80mm trace down to the stinger?
Yes 100% you can do that. I do that often aswell
@@fishingmad thanks mate sorry late reply getting over covid 🤦 can't wait to hit the water and try out these worms, have you had any luck with the Zman CrawZ at all?
Fantastic video Alan. Will definitely be giving this a go.
Thanks Tony, glad you enjoyed it.
That 2-5kg T curve is something special, very glad I picked one up recently!
Funny enough when I bought it ( even though it cost a small fortune ) I wasn't convinced it was great. however after a few productive sessions with it I have really started to like it. Easily my goto outfit for light inshore fishing now. 100% same story with the new Sustain it wasnt love at first site buy both have grown on me so much. Awesome combo. Did you get the 2-5kg aswell or lighter ?
@@fishingmad I got the 2-5kg as well, for my 2500 Twin power. Exact same spec as yours I would think.
I need a new 4-8kg for my 3000 Twin power and I'm leaning towards another T curve premium but my wallet is screaming at me to stop it 🤣
Yep there not cheap, ive also noticed the recent shimano sales has excluded the premium products LOL. Anyways your combo there is amazing !!
We’re did you get your gear from?
The jigs heads I had made up from Southern Edge Lures
Cheers mate awesome vid
Are they making more of those jigheads?
Where can I get those jig heads frome whith the stinger at the back of it
Could I got to bcf or anaconda to buy some
I get them made from Jason at Southern Edge Lures he has a Facebook page you can lookup
I think the technique should work if you’re just using a normal jig head and tie the assist hook line into the main eyelet. At least this is how I am going to try it and see if it works
Never caught any thing on plastics. My mate Charlie showed me this off Cliftons last Saturday. I'm going to give them another go.
Hey allan, I’m looking to buy a new lightweight rod for whiting, squid and maybe pinkies. My price range is 150 - 200 max $250 for rod and reel any suggestions?
I might have to give this a try in the sand holes in portland
100% it works a treat, would be very interesting to see what bycatch you might get up Portland way. Catch a king on a tiny size 6 stinger hook that would be something LOL
I am wondering where to buy the assist hooks from. Does anyone know where to get them?
I had them made from Sothern Edge Lures, look them up on Facebook and send Jason a Direct Message. Cheers
@@fishingmad thanks.
Great video and nice commentary and explanation
Thank you kindly! Glad you enjoyed it
Great video, I'm learning!
Awesome! Thank you!
This is an awesome video! Thanks for info on the assist hook.
No problems, your very welcome. I hope it helps.
Allan love your videos, I want to come down to Port Philip bay and catch some KG whiting. What’s a good place to set up a tent and launch a kayak from. And best months as well. Thanks again for great content.
First cast trying this technique and it came back as if something had eaten around the hooks with big human teeth. Damn leatherjackets. That said if I put a hook sticking out of a sinker I'd probably catch the cheeky things - they were chasing my sinker later after they'd eaten all the bait 🙃
Can't wait to try on sand whiting in northern nsw
Awesome !! Should work great there
Thanks Alan great video
Glad you enjoyed it !!
nah man 2 hooks? nice video but 2 hooks maybe hurt too much the fish
99% of the catches for whiting are done with the small assist hook pinned in the side of the mouth which is the easiest to remove and minimal damage to the fish. We do lots of catch and release and this is important to us.
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Just watched the rest of the vid and you answered my question !!! 1/12
Mate, looks like awesome fun! Thanks for sharing this technique with the turtleback, I have gone out and bought a packet to give it a crack in my local waters in South Australia. Cheers, Andrew.
Cheers mate for sharing
No worries
Fah was talking about this earlier with my local tackle shop. Will be trying this!
It works a treat, I've been chipping away at this technique for some time and plenty in the vid that should really help you.
@@fishingmad Very Helpful indeed! Will be planning on going to Clifton Springs in the Weekend for KJs and Squids.
Yep thats a great spot for it
Brilliant show Alan
Thanks so much Angus !!
Great video a 10/10
Thank you !!
Good vid mate,what size jig head do you put on those worm plastics?
Hi allan, do you have any tips on chasing winter whiting with hard body lures?