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THE BREAKING OF PERTURABO AND THE IRON WARRIORS!

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  • Hi all Wolf Lord Rho here,
    Today we continue our Iron Warriors week, with a look at how Perturabo, caused not only his own downfall, but that of his Legion...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 513

  • @marcolino269
    @marcolino269 4 роки тому +528

    During the Heresy, those guys hold their own like champs, basically saving the whole Horus alliance from collapse until the last moment, while the Death Guard was playing in the warp, World Eaters were chopping some civilians in a random moon and and Emperor's Children... well.
    The Warmaster knew that, and I don't think he lied when he told Perturabo, during the Siege of Terra, that he was his most valuable ally.

    • @MrUnreal9111
      @MrUnreal9111 4 роки тому +72

      Dont forget the world eaters teleported angron into the Perturabos neverending maze because he was too unstable then dropped him on the palace walls lol.

    • @darksoul1381
      @darksoul1381 4 роки тому +19

      and of course, Word Bearers were being Word Bearers

    • @kelman727
      @kelman727 4 роки тому +13

      Anzu Wyliei
      He was referring to the many IW garrisons left behind between Ultramar and Terra to stall Guilliman.

    • @darksoul1381
      @darksoul1381 4 роки тому +3

      Zoomer Waffen I meant Lorgar trying to replace the Warmaster with himself

    • @Deathskull0001
      @Deathskull0001 4 роки тому

      @Zoomer Waffen Getting smashed into the ground the entire way lol.

  • @emerson21962
    @emerson21962 4 роки тому +207

    Whenever it's Guy Haley writing about the Primarchs, he always gets their character perfectly. The Human Demigods are still very much human inside

    • @user-wg5mp4lc5s
      @user-wg5mp4lc5s 2 роки тому +2

      Not really, his Night Haunter book greatly written and generally my favorite, but Konrad Curze character was massacred into parody. In earlier books he wasn't maniac who giggle as skinning criminal alive, he was slowly falling into madness, a enforcer of Imperial Truth onto Galaxy

    • @maltheri9833
      @maltheri9833 7 місяців тому

      ​@@user-wg5mp4lc5sAt some point they lost the script and Konrad just turned into an insane psycho killer rather than a justice driven psycho killer.

  • @IronCow8
    @IronCow8 4 роки тому +118

    I find it interesting how both krieg and the iron warriors think they can't be forgiven by the emperor, but the results of that self loathing are the exact opposite.

    • @THExRISER
      @THExRISER 3 роки тому +6

      What's the correlation between immense guilt & self-loathing and really loving trench warfare?

    • @dannyjenning1788
      @dannyjenning1788 3 роки тому +9

      @@THExRISER 1:1 positive

    • @rafaellino520
      @rafaellino520 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@THExRISERfantastic comment xD

    • @THExRISER
      @THExRISER 11 місяців тому +1

      @@dannyjenning1788 Ok but what's the causation then? Now that I kind of know the definition of those words.

    • @THExRISER
      @THExRISER 11 місяців тому +1

      @@rafaellino520 Thanks lmao.

  • @ImperialKnight770
    @ImperialKnight770 4 роки тому +46

    I love how some of the iron warriors remembered their childhood. Shows that underneath all that weapon and tech, there is still some humanity left.

  • @vagabondsoul1286
    @vagabondsoul1286 4 роки тому +175

    IRON WITHIN
    IRON WITHOUT
    Iron sandwich, in short.

    • @IronCow8
      @IronCow8 4 роки тому +2

      Iron sandwich, nuf said

    • @dax7574
      @dax7574 4 роки тому +6

      I want to see an iron warrior eating an iron sandwitch with an Iron jaw just to flex around.

    • @ahmataevo
      @ahmataevo 4 роки тому +5

      Too much irony

    • @TheGhjgjgjgjgjg
      @TheGhjgjgjgjgjg 4 роки тому +3

      You rusted from the inside out,heretic

    • @ElvaanRanger
      @ElvaanRanger 4 роки тому +1

      An an iron warrior player I loled way too hard at this ... IRON SANDWICH !

  • @Shire_Sam
    @Shire_Sam 4 роки тому +239

    Just goes to show that even Primarchs need a hug from their father from time to time.

    • @Anton-cc7yc
      @Anton-cc7yc 4 роки тому +9

      Or a bolt in the head.

    • @Shire_Sam
      @Shire_Sam 4 роки тому +6

      It shows that no matter how much the primarches are engineered that they are still, at their core, truly human. That they are plagued by problems and neuroses that humans have always had since the dawn of time.
      I’m not sure but where does this fit in the time line?? Has Horus fallen yet? Or is this a case that Perturabos home world has become non compliant?? If anyone can help that would be great.

    • @mio87
      @mio87 4 роки тому +2

      Emperor may created too many sons, hard give them all a hug in a big galaxy and to much to do.

    • @sanguiniustheredangel2695
      @sanguiniustheredangel2695 4 роки тому +2

      If only Vulkan could be in more than one place at a time.

    • @ADreadBellow
      @ADreadBellow 3 роки тому +1

      This literally is the sole reason for the Heresy

  • @Lmolina90
    @Lmolina90 4 роки тому +191

    This kind of “breaking” type event is exactly the kind of trauma that allows people to be manipulated in all sorts of ways. The kind of trauma made worse by loneliness and an unsupportive family. Alas, for the 40k universe they have a host evil deities that were more than happy to take advantage.

    • @deleonfrancis60
      @deleonfrancis60 4 роки тому +1

      Lucas Molina What about his adopted sister did she actually cared for him sounds like she did.

    • @Lmolina90
      @Lmolina90 4 роки тому +2

      @@deleonfrancis60 you may very well be right. Seems Perty instantly regretted killing her after that very insightful speech she gave. Even if she didn't actually care I seems like the adopted sister understood him better.

    • @deleonfrancis60
      @deleonfrancis60 4 роки тому

      Lucas Molina I got to read this novel defined out more Time to hit Amazon

    • @Lmolina90
      @Lmolina90 4 роки тому +2

      @TheyCallMe Doug I'm a little confused, I didn't think my original comment or the replies were discussing how the chaos gods are or are not different from "SJW/Postmodernism". Perhaps you have the wrong comment/reply section.

    • @deleonfrancis60
      @deleonfrancis60 4 роки тому +3

      Lucas Molina I just finished the novel last night and she did care for him not just her but his father too he try reaching to him but he keeps pushing him away he won’t listen too reason his temper always in the way his legion suffered because it he knows not thing how to be a leader of men.

  • @AlienPancakes
    @AlienPancakes 4 роки тому +102

    Shit....I shed a tear. To put your will so entirely into protecting humanity, only to feel it crumble under the pressure and watch yourself become the monster. Truly tragic.

    • @Anton-cc7yc
      @Anton-cc7yc 4 роки тому +3

      I almost can hear the laugh of the Night Haunter. That was tragic. Perturabo? Just bitter and selfish.

  • @nicholascastellano5909
    @nicholascastellano5909 4 роки тому +479

    Its ironic how Perturabo decimates his own men, killing them as if they had no value; however, he himself believes he is viewed as having no value by the Emperor and his brothers. Perhaps he is treated like garbage because he treats others like garbage.

    • @Tacoguy1000
      @Tacoguy1000 4 роки тому +20

      I would have thought he would look at this at one point at some time. But he didn't.

    • @SentinelEnforcer
      @SentinelEnforcer 4 роки тому +87

      In a cruel sense of Irony, Perturabo was a broken twisted man who yearned for the respect and admiration of the Emperor and fellow Primarchs. Meanwhile the Iron Warriors legion yearned for the respect of their own father.

    • @mcmarkmarkson7115
      @mcmarkmarkson7115 4 роки тому +42

      @Zoomer Waffen Stop being a mental midget yourself. The emperor was quite clear in his first meeting and a primarch should have been smart enough to realize. Decimating his legion, even if he grew up with those customs was as heartless and unthankful as the emperor was.

    • @angelusumbra5741
      @angelusumbra5741 4 роки тому +7

      Nicholas Castellano
      You have a good point. And while it is possible, even likely, that this was a part of the poor relations Perturabo had with others. I don't think this was the only reason. He is a very complex character, and his impulses, thoughts, and feelings are nearly always quite subtle.

    • @crimsonphucker4629
      @crimsonphucker4629 4 роки тому +2

      BESMIRCH MY PEOPLE DO YOU!?

  • @SleepySack
    @SleepySack 4 роки тому +151

    From iron comes strength. From strength comes will. From will comes faith. From faith comes honour, and from honour comes iron!

    • @FayAlexGG
      @FayAlexGG 4 роки тому +2

      Yes

    • @TheDandyMann
      @TheDandyMann 4 роки тому +7

      Iron within! Iron without!

    • @lamichka
      @lamichka 4 роки тому +2

      There is NO HONOR in THIS!!! Iam with loyalist Iron Warriors on this one

    • @Ra.vanZon
      @Ra.vanZon 4 роки тому +8

      This is the unbreakable litany, and may it be forever so

    • @TheGhjgjgjgjgjg
      @TheGhjgjgjgjgjg 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDandyMann You rusted from the inside out,heretic

  • @eamonquinlan8345
    @eamonquinlan8345 4 роки тому +293

    Explains the real reason why they hate the Imperial Fists so much. It’s not about being the best at breaking sieges or defending them. Both sides endure much in sieges. The Iron Warriors mentally broke here and the Imperial Fists are a constant reminder of their failure. A shining example of a legion that didn’t fail the same mental and loyalty test. Quite sad if one thinks about it. Perhaps the Emperor didn’t realise that when you christen your son the lord of iron... it makes it very hard for him to ask for help.

    • @imperialfist2304
      @imperialfist2304 4 роки тому +18

      He could’ve taken notes that’s all I’m saying

    • @user.4049
      @user.4049 4 роки тому +6

      Such a well articulated thought

    • @emirhaneksioglu4503
      @emirhaneksioglu4503 4 роки тому +13

      Do not blame this on the emperor, Perturabo being fucked up in the head was obvious by his very first action with his legion. Only a sick mind can justify a random innocent warrior being beaten to death. Roman army conducted this for those who showed cowardice, they had reason. Perturabo didn't. He was a monster from the start. If the Emperor had a fault, I say it was that he did not execute him upon this action alone.

    • @emirhaneksioglu4503
      @emirhaneksioglu4503 4 роки тому +5

      ​@Craft Zeppelin And what, disobey an order under the pretense that the primarch would withdraw it? If he was cruel enough to order such a thing in the first place what was to say he wouldn't get every one who disobeyed killed as well?
      And if they did disobey and he went simply okay well that is fine. Then it'd devolve into the primarch has no spine his orders mean nothing. Which is just as worse.
      Perturabo should never have given the order. Because both cancelling it and following it were equally as damning.

    • @Internetbutthurt
      @Internetbutthurt 4 роки тому +11

      Its not a failure to rebel for a just cause. Its weakness to keep obeying bad laws, bad leader, etc. While powerful, the Emperor wasnt a great leader.

  • @randomcenturion7264
    @randomcenturion7264 4 роки тому +190

    Guilliman: How dare he!? Those were good, loyal men. Such senseless cruelty should be beneath an age of enlightenment.
    Emps: Meh.
    Honestly, Big-E should probably have seen a big issue of Pert going from peaceful, idealistic scholar to needlessly cruel tyrant in such a short span of time.

    • @praise_kek340
      @praise_kek340 4 роки тому +20

      I like how guilliman is acting high and mighty when it was his Legion that razed lorgar's favorite city.

    • @randomcenturion7264
      @randomcenturion7264 4 роки тому +52

      @@praise_kek340 To be fair, he was ordered to do it, whereas Pert did so during a state of fury. Plus, Roboute at least tried to minimize casualties (both razings were a mistake though.)

    • @stephenwiseman1712
      @stephenwiseman1712 4 роки тому +40

      Random Centurion the moral of the story is that the emperor is a shit father

    • @randomcenturion7264
      @randomcenturion7264 4 роки тому +26

      @Zoomer Waffen Thing is, did it REALLY need to happen? Decimation was for the cowardly. These Iron Warriors fought through Hell and never wavered in their duties.
      I don't believe he did it just because he could, but his logic and reasoning just seems too flawed to justify it. Fulgrim's legion were suffering and he managed to pull them from the brink without similar brutality (then again, every legion had a different character and, whilst the Emperor's Children may have been exemplary once, how they turned out doesn't reflect well on Fulgrim's disciplinary measures.)

    • @mcmarkmarkson7115
      @mcmarkmarkson7115 4 роки тому +20

      Big-E is just a weird figure. Even when finally reunited with his sons he doesn't spend much time with them and basically allows them to do as they please except when it's lorgar.

  • @bgcvetan
    @bgcvetan 4 роки тому +39

    Decimation, just when i thought IW can't get more mistreated.

  • @immortallvulture
    @immortallvulture 4 роки тому +106

    The iron warriors spent years being ground against the worst the galaxy could throw at them, every battle they fought without complaint and never asked for favour or recognition. Never refusing an order from terra no matter the cost to them. All that blood and loss only for the home world they were fighting to protect to slip into rebellion. No wonder it broke their spirit to have their home turn against them.

    • @immortallvulture
      @immortallvulture 4 роки тому +15

      Ben Siener to my knowledge of Caliban the rebellion was essentially a rift within the dark angels legion rather than the people of Calliban rebelling against the dark angels. That aside I’d argue the lion took it just as bad seeing as calliban was reduced to a pile of drifting rocks in space and he hasn’t been seen since that day along with the fact the hunting of the fallen and attempting to conceal the schism has come to define the modern dark angels.

    • @jtfspeirs1
      @jtfspeirs1 4 роки тому +3

      Asmodai, I think I’ve found some folks who need to repent. There are no “fallen” dark angels. Anyone who says otherwise, plz send their current location to asmodai_repentgiver @ gmail so we can have a little chat

    • @dax7574
      @dax7574 4 роки тому +9

      The problem is, as stated on the video, that Peturavo cared too litle about his own legion. Massive loses, no explanation to the families of what was happening. Humans aren't machines, some off work maintenance and care goes a long way, that's why Guilliman is so efficient really, 80% of his efforts are off battle.

    • @immortallvulture
      @immortallvulture 4 роки тому +9

      DaX I don’t think it’s a case of him not caring, Perturabo has always struggled with the human element, both within himself and with others. There’s another story where Magnus asks him to build a device to help with psychic research only for Perturabo to crush it in front of him to make a point because he saw cruelty as the most efficient solution. Likewise with the decimation it was his attempt to teach his legion to never settle for being the second best, it wasn’t that he didn’t care more that he didn’t know how to show it. One wonders if guilliman had the tyrant of locos for a father and been bought up in the grudges and political intrigue of Olympian society if he wouldn’t have turned out the same way.

    • @jeova0sanctus0unus
      @jeova0sanctus0unus 4 роки тому +2

      @Ben Siener Excuse me? Didnt the Lion Shoot his rebelling homeworld into space dust?

  • @qwertyman4
    @qwertyman4 4 роки тому +18

    Must resist urge to build a primarch resistant suit for the purpose of giving Perty a hug

    • @Vr6Zecke
      @Vr6Zecke 4 роки тому +6

      just send Vulkan ..he will hug him xD

    • @HammarPwnsYourFace
      @HammarPwnsYourFace 4 роки тому +2

      Best part is. Papa Burns McMotherfuckers-Alot is a perpetual....so. Yea. He will hug for all time.

  • @Akeris91
    @Akeris91 4 роки тому +48

    I absolutely love the scene just after this where Forrix find Perturabo and they kinda 'talk it out' Forrix really being the best of iron warriors character wise.
    If we see a return of Perturabo in 40k he NEEDS to be written by Guy Haley

    • @goreborn6045
      @goreborn6045 3 роки тому +8

      Not only that, he should not be a daemon primarch, but instead he should be torn apart by his feelings and sense of past loyalty to his father

  • @leonardomarquesbellini
    @leonardomarquesbellini 4 роки тому +18

    Baldermort's recent video on the Iron Warriors is a must for this Iron Week and talks about the very moment ol' Perty ordered decimation.

  • @angelusumbra5741
    @angelusumbra5741 4 роки тому +57

    Perturabo is often seen as less than his brothers. True he is not as charismatic, or as flashy, as most of the others. But that didn't make him any less great or worthy before he fell. He was mentally what his brother Mortarion was physically... I pity them both.
    Addendum: I KNOW it is not possible, whether from the in universe "rules" of becoming a Daemon, or the way that 40K works. But I wish that fallen Primarchs could be pulled out of the pit of pain, insanity, and corruption they drowned in and that their souls can find some of the peace they didn't have in life. Yes they were flawed, and yes they've done terrible things in service to their "patrons". But they are... were... human. And humans are flawed.
    I'd be satisfied with their souls, like Horus before them, being destroyed. Oblivion's nonexistence is better than eternity trapped with the "gods".

    • @angelusumbra5741
      @angelusumbra5741 3 роки тому +1

      @Cian Abroad
      I agree, but the nature of the Warp and its twisted, insane, and malicious "gods" would NEVER allow the fallen, especially the Primarchs, have a chance at better if there souls were released. They're all petty and spiteful, and would do anything and everything to hurt those freed fallen to hurt the loyalists and especially The Emperor. So ending them completely, so they are beyond the clutches of those Chaos bastards is likely the best to hope for in 40K.

  • @Juubi217
    @Juubi217 4 роки тому +33

    It's a pity. Once he gets to this point, he has a chance to look in the mirror, and all he sees is a monster. I feel sorry for him

  • @horuslupercal2785
    @horuslupercal2785 4 роки тому +36

    What an incredible view into the legion. This is such a heavy story. I love Warhammer for things like this. Thank you for the video!
    Discovered you yesterday and you are quickly becoming one of my favorite channels

  • @jackfrost2978
    @jackfrost2978 4 роки тому +9

    When you work with iron you realize. You can harden iron. But, if you harden it too much; it becomes brittle. Perturablo became emotionally brittle. Instead of trying to work with and learn from his brothers. As many of them worked with and learned from both the emperor and each other. He hardened his resolve to prove himself worthy with out help or input. He closed himself off from the very resources that could best help him get what he wanted most. Respect and kinship.

  • @mainbox9847
    @mainbox9847 4 роки тому +10

    You always recommend to read the lore for ourselves first but its your vids that got me to pick up my first 40k novel, thanks for the vids!

  • @nightynight7500
    @nightynight7500 4 роки тому +4

    I love how this is one of my fave channels and its just one dude nerding out over a book about model soldiers. Love it dude, keep up the good work

  • @TherealSBlair
    @TherealSBlair 4 роки тому +6

    Blast it Wolf Lord! Yet one more book I must now have. You diabolical salesman!

  • @Youngimperialist
    @Youngimperialist 4 роки тому +9

    "Iron indeed" Such weaklings and fools. "Loyalty is it's own reward". Lion El Johnson.

  • @ARK8844
    @ARK8844 2 роки тому +2

    “Do you not see? Did you think Olympia is special somehow because I was found here?”
    That quote really shows his dedication. His own home he is willing to destroy in the name of the Emperor. That quote speaks volumes for his disconnect from any attachment.

  • @delsinmunroe5067
    @delsinmunroe5067 3 роки тому +4

    Man, I'm so glad that I found your channel. Your delivery of the lore is amazing, and detailed, what I feel like the community was missing. Leutin09 can start you off in the lore, explain the general setting, timeline, and characters, but you come to Rho when you need that nitty-gritty, line-by-line readings of the thoughtful moments in the lore. Love your work brother

  • @xMorentz
    @xMorentz 4 роки тому +12

    Love your channel Rho. Usually listen to your uploads on my daily lockdown walks😂 cheers bro.

  • @ericasandberg7286
    @ericasandberg7286 4 роки тому +18

    My heart breaks for Perturabo 😭 how a once loving son could go so wrong.

  • @papidorn7938
    @papidorn7938 4 роки тому +4

    Best Perturabo quote eva "" You are rich with folly to think this
    slight could go unanswered" thank you @Wolf Lord Rho you turned me in to a new Iron Warrior fan, they are not so bad now.

  • @tonk3661
    @tonk3661 4 роки тому +6

    I think killing his sister with his bare hands, finally pushed Perturabo over the edge and gave him that one silver of clarity that he so desperately needed.
    I know it's not mentioned but it feels implied

  • @balestorm9136
    @balestorm9136 4 роки тому +6

    Just imagine if he had been scattered to a forge world instead of Olympia.

  • @GTgaming69
    @GTgaming69 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for narrating these stories for us, your added commentary makes them even better, keep up the great work!

  • @Evohunter7
    @Evohunter7 3 роки тому +3

    I read this book in one sitting. Made me fall in love with Perturabo, and hurt for him. He was so capable, but could not see past his own resentment, and when he finally did, he broke.

  • @DIGITALDOGMUCK
    @DIGITALDOGMUCK 4 роки тому +4

    Perturabo is a fascinating character.
    His and Angron's story's are truly tragic tales

    • @Duppyman695
      @Duppyman695 4 роки тому +1

      The Lord of Iron the most likely to be redeemed !

  • @davidkahil5158
    @davidkahil5158 4 роки тому +1

    Wolf Lord Rho is the best loremaster, I mean he really gets and exposes every character's many facets. to Wolf Lord Rho, I cant say how many hours I have spent listening to him even after I have read all the books.

  • @williamamely7038
    @williamamely7038 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome passage. Thanks, Rho, for sharing this with us. Even Horus felt this way, as the whispers of Chaos began to be heard.

  • @jordinagel1184
    @jordinagel1184 4 роки тому +3

    Perturabo: one of the few Primarchs with the (admittedly sad) honor of having an book in the series of the same name which is actually written well.

    • @cc-bk3tx
      @cc-bk3tx 4 роки тому

      What would that be?

  • @raphwalker9123
    @raphwalker9123 4 роки тому +10

    Funny how he kills his own home world like his favourite brother the Lion.

    • @sindrimyr5351
      @sindrimyr5351 4 роки тому +3

      his Favorite Brother was Magnus thou.

  • @PoolNoodleGundam
    @PoolNoodleGundam 4 роки тому +32

    Now I kinda wanna see some more stuff of the more sympathetic traitor legions like the thousand sons.

    • @Ryuzakku
      @Ryuzakku 4 роки тому +3

      Though the Rubric basically irreversibly fucked them, as well as the flesh-change, the Thousand Sons were always in the hands of Tzeench, sadly.

    • @ekulerudamuru
      @ekulerudamuru 4 роки тому +2

      @@Ryuzakku the rubric can be reversed, Yvrain did it

  • @alasiadarthe001actual9
    @alasiadarthe001actual9 4 роки тому +5

    Still my favorite Primarch having dealt with similar feelings of being undervalued and how the cycle of Abuse affects us all
    thankfully I had help to get through the moments of doubt and of the self loathing.
    Can't wait for Arch's Loyalist Version of him to come out to see what he comes with.
    Also Why couldn't Ferris Have Fallen instead. That would have been an interesting Heresy.

    • @warsmithandrath449
      @warsmithandrath449 4 роки тому

      Perturabo remaining loyal is a simple as it is complex. I'm looking forward to Arch's video as well (4th legion for life).A part of me wants to see him come back in the current 40k narrative as mess up everyone's plans.

  • @wintersking4290
    @wintersking4290 4 роки тому +3

    I find the conversation between Perturabo and his sister incredibly illuminating. Perturabo is a builder by nature, he wanted to create and was always dependable. But because of his own feelings of unworthiness he constantly doubts and it is that doubt that eats away at his mind. If he had been reassured of his value could he have been saved?

    • @bionetik
      @bionetik 4 роки тому

      His sister? Did I miss something?

    • @wintersking4290
      @wintersking4290 4 роки тому +1

      @@bionetik yeah, he said the lady he spoke to was the daughter of his adoptive father, ergo sister.

  • @LordELnumber8
    @LordELnumber8 4 роки тому +18

    At the end of the book the best part when I think forrix finds pertarabo that interaction was great. Best part is when forrix tells him some of men fought back against his orders and he said good like he was glad that some still had the will to fight against his rage.

    • @notsocrazytank707
      @notsocrazytank707 3 роки тому

      What would have happened if his entire legion had outright said "No"?

    • @LordELnumber8
      @LordELnumber8 3 роки тому

      @@notsocrazytank707 I think it would have shifted his anger to his sons, were they would be probably another decimation order or worse. But it could have saved the planet from burning and possible save Purtarobo joining Horus.
      This would not happen though unless his sons prior combat experience was not monotonous as it was. It wasn’t till the iron warriors were in Olympia literally burning their old rooms they grew up on that they realized fully what they were doing, it was orders as usual till that point, they had done this sort of thing billion times over.

    • @notsocrazytank707
      @notsocrazytank707 3 роки тому

      @@LordELnumber8 Good point. A marine can't disobey a primarch, but if no marine followed his orders, he wouldn't execute anyone

    • @LordELnumber8
      @LordELnumber8 3 роки тому

      @@notsocrazytank707 I liken Pertarobo to a toy maker when his toys get abused or don’t work he gets frustrated and flies into a rage and smashes the the toy. If none of his toy solders followed his orders he will get frustrated and something gonna get smashed. And believe me I know the feeling.

    • @notsocrazytank707
      @notsocrazytank707 3 роки тому

      @@LordELnumber8 I think he wanted to be stopped, because he couldn't stop himself

  • @JTRAP1000
    @JTRAP1000 4 роки тому

    Fantastic! So happy to have stumbled into this channel. Love your work and I'm looking forward to watching all your previous videos

  • @brigandboy1425
    @brigandboy1425 4 роки тому +2

    This book actually ended up changing a lot of the way I look at the world. The line where his sister says (and I'm paraphrasing here) "You are like a small child who complains that people do not praise you for your brilliance while you hide in the dark, attempting not to be noticed."
    Exactly that. Perturabo is, and always will be, a spiteful character. But a huge part of the tragedy is that it's his choice to be a tragedy. The world didn't shove all of this upon him; he chose to be passive aggressive, to stay on the sidelines, to pursue other paths. He disdained the spotlight, and yet complained that he was never in the spotlight. It really made me think about how I do that in my own life to various extents. It was a great book.

  • @TealWolf26
    @TealWolf26 4 роки тому +2

    Takes over command. First order: decimatio.
    Oh boy. This is gonna be a ride.

  • @6Stevo
    @6Stevo 4 роки тому

    Love your channel. Especially this weeks content. Perturabo is my fave Primarch and these videos have been fascinating listen. Good stuff Wolf Lord.

  • @ragingmoderate6791
    @ragingmoderate6791 4 роки тому +2

    I will have to give this a listen when I'm done with Fear to Tread. Been listening to these books at work whenever I can. Last week I listened to Angel's Descent and man that was a good book imo. Seeing the life of an astartes before they became one, seeing The Lion before he was found. Would like to get more of that from all the primarchs.

  • @FanimusMaximus
    @FanimusMaximus 4 роки тому +7

    Ok so there’s a lesson in Pert’s fall. He already believed in his mind that what he did was something the Emperor could not forgive. He may have invoked some sort of discipline or penance but he probably would have given a way for Pert to redeem himself.
    Lesson being if you fucked up, don’t keep yourself from atoning from it.

  • @nikitalobanov5617
    @nikitalobanov5617 4 роки тому +1

    Perturabo's tale is an interesting one... Great one Wolf Rho, as usual. 👍

  • @monkeylugz
    @monkeylugz 4 роки тому

    Great work as always brother many thanks Wolf Lord Rho :)

  • @bellow85
    @bellow85 Рік тому

    Truly epic stuff man. Super absorbed by this vid

  • @hughgedney3393
    @hughgedney3393 4 роки тому

    A very extremely awesome video as always Wolf Lord Rho.

  • @Ally.Cat.252
    @Ally.Cat.252 4 роки тому +7

    Do some Angron and world eaters please. I feel bad for Angron.

  • @plaidpvcpipe3792
    @plaidpvcpipe3792 4 роки тому +1

    17:08 Perhaps this is why he was so troubled. When you are branded the greatest, the most determined, the most worthy, it is hard to feel like any of those. When you are branded that way, your imperfections make you feel like an imposter. And it makes it hard to ask for help, or give in even the slightest bit.

  • @closeriusfildius9634
    @closeriusfildius9634 4 роки тому

    looove the longer videos! Great music as well nice commission!!

  • @andrewostman3135
    @andrewostman3135 4 роки тому +35

    I personally love her entire reproach basically calling him a whiny fool

  • @imperialfist2304
    @imperialfist2304 4 роки тому +23

    This where they start being the “Trench Diggers”? I shouldn’t say this but I do like their colors and armor scheme, perhaps papa Dorn was too harsh on Ol’ Perturabo

    • @deleonfrancis60
      @deleonfrancis60 4 роки тому +3

      Imperial Fist I agree I to am I imperial fist but gaving the iron warriors and Perturabo more depth in this novel It’s great to see how they fall

  • @GUMMRUCHK
    @GUMMRUCHK 4 роки тому +60

    I fail to see how Perturabo removed the weak when the Marines killed were chosen at random he could easily have killed his best Marines with this and the weaker one just happen to have not been chosen.

    • @Blade40688
      @Blade40688 4 роки тому +24

      Decimation has a psychological effect to it, forcing loyalty and forced efficiency out of fear. I mean it could have just as easily been you that drew the unlucky ticket, so you better steel yourself and buckle down so it doesn’t happen again. Decimation is a giant “Do better or die” threat with full audience participation

    • @GUMMRUCHK
      @GUMMRUCHK 4 роки тому +5

      @@Blade40688 It's effectiveness is very questionable.

    • @dax7574
      @dax7574 4 роки тому +11

      @@Blade40688 Actually decimation was a social tool more than a tactical one, it would only be useful as an exemplary message for the other legions; don't fuck up, or this will be done to you.
      There is only one instance that I can remember of the decimation being used right, and it was a very severe case where a legio had grown stagnant on a very long term siege(Numantia, 20years of siege) One member of the Scipio family decimated the legion first thing after his arrival, then forced them into heavy training and forced labour for half a year, then made them build a fortified wall around the city to make sure it would not get more supplies from outside, and then kept the heavy discipline for the rest of the siege under the threat of a second decimation. And it worked, they took the city in the end, albeit empty of life.

    • @christianbateman2
      @christianbateman2 4 роки тому +7

      @@GUMMRUCHK No it works, we have real world history to show this, caesars 10th went from decimation to god like veterancy.
      Any time a legionary would consider routing he has a vivid, brutal memory if the cost. Im sure hed rather die standing side by side with his comrade as apposed to having to beat/be beaten to death.
      Especially when you know your victim/murderer. You share a tent with the guy, eat shit and sleep almost 70% of your time with them.

    • @TheReaper569
      @TheReaper569 4 роки тому +1

      @@christianbateman2 how do you link that their success to decimation?? Before a therefore because of a...
      Logical fallacy of idiots

  • @habitualline-stepper8218
    @habitualline-stepper8218 4 роки тому

    Great idea Pertwee
    I love the iron warriors and their stoicism not to mention all the good siege stuff.
    Highly recommend people read the honsou novels (storm of iron etc)

  • @mbiker345
    @mbiker345 4 роки тому

    You’ve got me reading hammer of Olympus now with all this iron warriors talk. Was never much for the traitors but enjoyed the night lords so on to this.

  • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
    @Kristian.B.Kristiansen 4 роки тому +12

    And this is where Horus contacts Perturabo and congratulations him on saving his home and defeating the rebellion. Horus gives Perturabo the praise and acknowledge he craves, and ask Perturabo to join him against the cruel uncaring Emperor. And Perturabo, seeing no other way, takes the offer.
    PS. It is later hinted, that the unrest on Olympia was instigated/exacerbated by agents of the Word Bearers Legion....

    • @elgnomotroll
      @elgnomotroll 4 роки тому +2

      Is there something in the imperium not fucked by the word beares?

  • @jessejamesroy0069
    @jessejamesroy0069 4 роки тому +1

    love it great video!

  • @amaniandrus260
    @amaniandrus260 4 роки тому +1

    i teared up at this a bit the store of how someone that wanted so so badly to be the hero of his own story finds out his is the villein

  • @theballadofkobirae7431
    @theballadofkobirae7431 4 роки тому +1

    The traitor legions aswell as blood angels are my favorite stories because i really love their primarchs stories as they dilepict the struggles of living they are human struggles.

  • @ashliams8269
    @ashliams8269 4 роки тому +1

    Decimation was an extremely rare action for Roman Consuls to take. It was more of a looming threat only to be used as the most extreme of punishments. We actually have very few, if any, instances of it being used.

  • @josiahriojas2593
    @josiahriojas2593 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Rho!

  • @NoobNoob-tu2if
    @NoobNoob-tu2if 4 роки тому

    Great story well read keep up the great work

  • @JamesDean-nx2nq
    @JamesDean-nx2nq 4 роки тому +1

    Every time I can see the emperor is not providing the fatherly advice and guidance that he should be in situations that desperately call for it (Example: Perturabo ordering 10% of his Legion beaten to death by the other 90%) make me incredibly grateful that I have such a great dad.

  • @dominicomegon4714
    @dominicomegon4714 4 роки тому

    Congrats on 50k, Wolf Lord! Here is to another 50k soon 🍺
    Cheers.

  • @Otomazeman
    @Otomazeman 3 місяці тому

    Whenever I read, or watch other 40k Content Creators doing coverage on the Iron Warrior's breaking point, including watching this video after 3 years. As well before the start of the heresy. This Dialogue between Perturabo and his Sister from both the Novel and Cover;
    "What Happened to the Man I knew who wished for no more War? The Boy who drew such wonderful things." -Hes
    "Nobody wanted them." -Pert
    That Solidifies my love for the Iron Warriors ever so grudgingly hard. For their Bitterness, and the need of a Hug from the Legio Salamanders.

  • @alexanderboepple5162
    @alexanderboepple5162 4 роки тому +2

    I love your videos. Perterabo is so incredibly tragic.

    • @Duppyman695
      @Duppyman695 4 роки тому +2

      Pride cometh before the fall !

  • @cn9707
    @cn9707 4 роки тому +1

    Man Perty needed more time with Hawk Boy and Vulkan. He would have gotten plenty of hugs.

  • @bobbiebrown631
    @bobbiebrown631 4 роки тому +1

    Bro this channel is the shit for lore fans

  • @15DEAN1995
    @15DEAN1995 4 роки тому +2

    perturabo couldve so easily remained loyal to emperor but his own insecuritys created a self fulfilling prophecy that caused his fall. he thought his brothers never respected him because he kept too distant from them but he didnt realise it was his own fault not theirs.
    if he had gone to the emperor after this story i really wonder what wouldve happened.

  • @brandonhughes4571
    @brandonhughes4571 4 роки тому +2

    Love your videos keep it up please and can we have them return to the imperium please

  • @lordwolf137
    @lordwolf137 4 роки тому

    Perrturabo the Lord of iron buckling and cracking finding himself wanting I shed a tear for this man but we all know what he becomes. On a side note definitely going to read this book thank you for this keep up the great work.

  • @johnnydiaz925
    @johnnydiaz925 4 роки тому

    Very good passage!!

  • @plaidpvcpipe3792
    @plaidpvcpipe3792 4 роки тому +1

    15:23 this is what is so sad about Perturabo and the Iron Warriors. All he wanted was to create great things, but was refused. All he was for was destruction, despite his inner wishes.

  • @darkhawk7494
    @darkhawk7494 4 роки тому +1

    That honestly broke my heart out of all the 30k legions I have had the most respect for the Iron warriors and the Dark angels. Both for different reasons but today has given me a new side to the Lord of Iron.

  • @charlesbratt2504
    @charlesbratt2504 4 роки тому +1

    Outstanding! Much needed insight into Perturabo. Check out Angron:Slave of Nuceria. Really good! The lost potential. Man....

  • @ryanart7241
    @ryanart7241 4 роки тому

    I loved his book. It really did change my whole outlook on the IW and Perty-bo-bobobo.

  • @xar9499
    @xar9499 Рік тому

    I now I'm 2 years late, but man these guys are my favorite chapter. Both traitor and loyal. When i first got into 40k about a year ago i probably hated them the most, but after going through this series on them i feel bad for them and find them to be one of the most well written groups in the heresy. If they ever bring Perterabo back they better do him justice.

  • @baal9867
    @baal9867 4 роки тому

    Dam even after reading the book now hearing you go over it I miss my Iron Warrios force more then ever

  • @drywall7398
    @drywall7398 4 роки тому

    Such a pity...
    Once again Rho well-done man.

  • @Volvith
    @Volvith 4 роки тому +1

    Holy shit, you can actually feel the pain that's eating away at him, the anxious dread.
    He charged towards the edge, slowing down towards the end.
    Enough to make him realize the consequences of his actions, not enough to come to a halt before falling down the cliff whose edge he now viewed with dread.
    Stuck falling, all he can think about is his mistake, unable to change his fate, unable to reach the edge.
    The one chapter i don't blame for their turning sides.
    ...
    What could have been, looking back...

  • @KaiserAfini
    @KaiserAfini 4 роки тому +1

    Perturabo was probably made to be the one who can make the hard, logical choices when all else fails (diplomacy, restraint, etc). The problem is that he is all too happy to make those choices, without exhausting other options. Because his default is to be inflexible and logical enough to make those calls, he is both unable and uninterested to seek a better way.

  • @Iacobus-Magnus
    @Iacobus-Magnus 3 роки тому +2

    I believe that Perturabo can be redeemed. If maybe the Emperor managed to get like a psychic message to him or something. But this hit me in the feels.

  • @dcbluenose1873
    @dcbluenose1873 4 роки тому +1

    Goddamit I really just wish Big E had sent him a thank you note or an emoji hug or some shit. He would have been the BEST loyalist primarch. Dangit.

  • @darrianweathington1923
    @darrianweathington1923 3 роки тому +2

    Aaaaaand, here we go with baby rage.

  • @Gigasius
    @Gigasius 4 роки тому

    You absolutely need to make a video about Perturabo's hope/dream vision from Angel Exterminatus.

  • @HPmcDoogle
    @HPmcDoogle 4 роки тому +4

    Amazing.
    What was that background music you used? It was perfect for your narration.

    • @wolflordrho
      @wolflordrho  4 роки тому +1

      It’s one of my own channel bgm’s. I have it up in it’s own upload if you want to listen without my talking 😊

    • @HPmcDoogle
      @HPmcDoogle 4 роки тому

      @@wolflordrho i would!

  • @st1mp0
    @st1mp0 4 роки тому

    Thank you ironnnnn

  • @Truegrade
    @Truegrade Рік тому

    This was so very sad, my shoulders just dropped at “Perturabo was broken”. The pain of losing control and the feeling of shame he had for his choices. 💔

  • @davidtrainor9569
    @davidtrainor9569 Рік тому +1

    Perturabo doesn't know how to show love, or receive love, but wants it desperately.

  • @totallynotalpharius2283
    @totallynotalpharius2283 2 роки тому

    There’s a moment at the end of the book where Pert asks one of his captains if any of his men disobeyed the order to destroy Olympia and almost seems relieved when he’s told there were. Brilliantly written

  • @LordInter
    @LordInter 4 роки тому +1

    Rather then the legions working alone, independently, it would of made so much more sense for mixed legions as specialists, iron warriors build the fort, blood angels make it look pretty, ultramarines do the logistics, white scars scout while the Fort is built etc etc

  • @malcontent6524
    @malcontent6524 4 роки тому

    I never gave Perturabo or the Iron Warriors much thought to be honest, aside from the usual "Siege! Fortify!" jokes, but this... this is grand.

  • @sean6839
    @sean6839 4 роки тому +1

    I wish you had included the scene where he breaks down infront of forrix and asks if any rejected his order then you find out... Cause that's when he realizes to me that he and his legion are damned.

  • @plaidpvcpipe3792
    @plaidpvcpipe3792 4 роки тому

    Vulkan needs to give Perturabo a hug.