Chaves Ultramar 229 VS ZT 0562TI
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2019
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I love the Chaves design but my mom would be very disappointed with me if I had a skull pocket clip.
Chaves should make an alternate clip that you can buy. Maybe even a deep carry.
Broc Stauffer probably not worth the hassle for him. His stuff sells like crazy.
Great video. Only disagreement is value.
I think the Chaves wins value.
Custom titanium pocket clip vs steel.
Complex blade grind that performs better. Hand rubbed. Better cutting geometry with Reate OEM quality for $70. That’s a lot for $70.
Great content as always. Keep it up.
But it's a milled clip that I don't like the looks of and doesn't work as well.
@@SliceyDicey doesn’t change how much it cost to make
Prob my favorite BTTD you have made. Not sure why, I just really enjoyed it.
Dude the skull clip makes the knife, without it, then it is just another tanto
Thanks, both great knives. I just ordered the Chavez 229 at BHQ. They always run out quickly. Expensive but will make a great EDC for me!! Good review!
I hated the clip on the Chaves. So weird but over time and collecting. Belonging to his group. I have really grown to kinda like it. I have one coming in the mail now. I don’t own a 0562 but do own 5 xm-18s. So we shall see but I am really excited.
Thank you Brian. Your comparisons are as scientific as one can get on subjective matters! Because of your other review on the ZT 0562Ti, I went and bought one. It arrives the day after tomorrow. (Now I'm jonesing for Rick Hinderer's XM-24 with the 4" blade. Crazy, huh? Out of nowhere, I've got this knife bug.)
Yooo literally yesterday thinking about someone doing a comparison on these!!!
Great vid as always sir. Happy to take the 229 off your hands any time. :)
Staying for now for sure.
I would buy this Chavez you have right now for $350 if that was an option. I really love that knife. Unfortunately I can't find one anywhere, so I am going to get the ZT 0562TI tomorrow brand new for $220. I think that is a good deal, and I will be happy for a while. So many great knives out there. It is truly hard to keep up with them all, especially with the cost being so high on most good ones.
Chaves all day. Sold my Hinderer non flipper to make room for it and the new liberation. Much better quality, blade, value, and performance imo. I was against the clip at first but once I got one I fell in love with it. So unique and well done, the tension and ramp are great. 0562 is nice tho but the look throws me off and the blade is not a very good slicer for having a slicer grind on it( just throws me off), and I honestly don’t love the look of the clip but it carries good. Great video tho
Great video, thanks !
Some awesome knives as nice review and info....Good stuff.....
Good comparison. You gotta have knuckle tats to rock the Chavez clip. Since I don’t I go with the ZT.
Hahaha
I picked up the 0562TI. Only complaint is the level of slickness on the handle. That Titanium is very smooth and can slip out of your hand. I love the very light weight but just be careful flipping, carving, or push cutting. I’ve nearly dropped it just flipping the blade open.
Been saving my pennies for that 0562ti.... it's a beauty.
Just picked one up. Gorgeous knife
I know your Pena Mini Diesel is slightly smaller than these 2 but it wold be interesting to see how it stacked up? Purchased a new ZT 0562CF on Sunday for $212 which will be my 1st ZT and flipper for that matter, should be delivered tomorrow. This vid makes me feel pretty good about the purchase so thank you.
I have that same knife. It gets world's better once you disassemble, clean and lube it. The action also gets way better once it's broken in.
I'm not a fan of the clip either. For that alone, I'm passing on the Chaves.
Seriously. It looks straight-up stupid, like it's marketed to 13-year-old gangsters or something.
0562ti all day just bought one
Breaking it down the way you do, I'd agree with your decision. I have the 0562 with g10 and elmax.
Just got the Chaves yesterday. Even if I had the 0562 ti, I'd still pick the Chaves, and I'm not a fan of the clip. The action is superb and that blade...out of this world. The Chaves just comes across as a super high quality piece. P.S. I can't believe you still have that cat scratch mark on your hand. Has it been months?
Great battle!!!! Rip Chavez😞 👍 video
Still no plans to sell the Chaves.
@@SliceyDicey ofcourse not!! That would be an abomination!! Lol
When in doubt just buy them both
I'm a fan of Brian spec knives lol
I like plain too
I thought this was a good video, but my opinion is that the 0562 is clearly the winner overall and in each category. It is as good as the Hinderers I own, but costs hundreds of dollars less. The 0562 deploys the best, has the best sound, and drops shut - not shakes shut. I do not think the design of the Chavez comes close in terms of design.
0.014” behind the edge? Wouldn’t that put it in the ‘delicate edge’ category? Is that strategically consistent with carrying around all that other metal?
The 0562 is the best ZT with one of my favorite clips. 👍🇺🇲
Definitely one of the best clips ever! Love this knife. ZT never disappoints on the 4 knives I have purchased.
Bryan, I use the blade stop on my 0562 more than I use the flipper tab. I've been thinking about removing or reducing the size of the tab.I have a BUNCH of great knives and still carry my 0562CF every day.
You must have an odd ball! It is literally impossible to deploy using the blade stops on mine.
@@jessruss40 I have a CF and a G10. Both flip easily for me using the studs/stops. My hands/fingers are smaller than most men (ala Shabazz) so maybe that helps get the meat of my thumb somewhat between the stud and frame to get more leverage.
Thanks Bryan.
This is a good one, and makes for a great comparison/battle!
I have to go with the 0562Ti as well. Especially with it having so much third party customization support.
Now if the Ultramar could go on a 1 oz diet, and offer a different clip option. Then, it would be a *really* tough decision.
: - )
Dont forget mate there not just a carbon fibre version but a G10 one at $100 less making it a clear winner
Great video , the Chavis is one knife I haven’t purchased only because I can’t get past the clip with the huge skull ,if they ever come out with a different clip I’m all in
Randy C get one. You won’t regret it.
I want a Chaves because of the cool pocket clip. Peña has some cool knives, too! 🤔👍🏽🔪
JcruzR 2 Chaves is best knife maker in the game! His customs are insane.
Chaves looks great but come-on with that clip. I vote ZT.
Hahah...the clip grew on you...didn’t it? I can understand that...I didn’t like it at first either...lol.
I'm torn and like both, but I own 3 ZT 0562s and regrettably no Chavez.
Wade Page get a Chaves!
I have no problem with a skull or anyone seeing me wearing one. And I just sprang for a new pair of Wranglers last week.
That hand rubbed blade is beautiful and I prefer slicey blade grinds but it comes with a clip killer, so it's the 0562 for me.
Oh contrair Mr Slicey! I think you need to re-evaluate your opinion. Reate M390 which they do well (maybe Kurt can tell us how well) vs ZT soft 20cv! That pocket clip is worth $70.00! The 1/2 bte on the Chavez! Come on MAN! Of course I own 2 0562 and 2 Hinderers and no Chavez. YET!!!
Why is a clip I don't like worth $70?
@@SliceyDicey it is truly unique! I dont like it that much, but to pull it out hand it to another guy, they are gonna go holy shit! In a good way. Just like the sound of your socomm/shotgun!
The ZT looks like an awesome purpose built user where as the 229 is more of a nicely crafted show piece, which I'd enjoy owning and admiring more (less the clip). And that blade shape is sexy as hell! If someone comes up with an aftermarket clip, I'm all over it.
The skull clip is a deal breaker for me. I wonder how many sales they've missed because of that clip style. It ruins any Chaves knife to me. Great video as always
_Ridge _ well, he has no plans of changing the clip so I’m assuming he must be doing pretty well with sales.
Figuring that I have been trying to find a Chaves 229 and can't find one anywhere because they sell fast and he has his hands full with custom orders, I don't think he is worried about the clip hurting sales.
I have to write off the skull clip. I work in a professional environment, so it’s one thing to have a knife clip sticking out of slacks and another to have a massive skull clip sticking out. It sucks because I feel like I’m missing out but I can’t justify the purchase if I can’t carry the knife.
Triple E EDC I work in a professional environment as well and carry my Chaves daily.
TheBleepHole gotta give you props.
Triple E EDC I don’t think anyone has even really noticed it to be honest. They don’t seem to notice my gun either and I’m pretty positive it prints in my belly band holster.
TheBleepHole good to know. Maybe I’m too self-conscious.
If you work in an office environment then you may want to consider carrying a different type of knife. I carry a Ferrum Forge gent in my slacks to work. When I am not wearing professional attire I carry my heavier knives.
Ok I had to buy the Chaves Redencion 229 drop point in Titanium. What is with the thumb studs on this thing? It’s a nightmare to open! I’ve seen Nick Shabazz say that his fingers caught the locking mech and that caused it not to open well. I seriously can’t thumb flick this knife open!!! It’s frustrating to say the least because I spent $350 for it.
If you are a fidgeter like me....the Chaves is not for you. (Own a liberation)
Why is it u always have to compare a knife to something its not????? Duh!!!! Learn to appreciate things for what they are maybe…
You finally meet that perfect girl who's everything you've ever dreamed of. On your wedding night you discover a giant, hairy mole on her butt. You don't believe in divorce, and you're hoping that in time you'll learn to look past the mole, maybe even embrace it.
That's the Chaves clip.
Sublyme I keep going back and forth on it. The knife is sitting there looking so awesome, then turn it over and that clip hits you. I don’t hate it but it certainly has a kind of “in your face” quality about it.
hmm, a great ZT or another overpriced Chinese knife, no contest for me
I own both of these knives, and the quality on both of them is outstanding... ZERO fit and finish issues, crazy tight tolerances, high end super steels. Literally the only difference is the geographic location they are built.
I would never buy a knife with a skull on it. It shows a total lack of class.
Paul Jeffery completely disagree. It’s his logo and a shit load of people love it.
Totally your opinion and worth about as much as a bucket of spit