What Went Wrong? The "New" Audi RS6 Driven On UK Soil At Last!
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2022
- Two years ago, in a very different world, I drove the all new Audi RS6. On the launch in Germany, I got to experience the car in all weathers and came to the conclusion that it was a good car - but not a perfect one. Finally I am getting my hands on a UK spec car and whilst it still has a lot to like, there are some other changes I'm not so fond of
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To all the car manufacturers looking in the comments. It’s not that hard! I will give you a list.
No piano black inside the car.
No touch screens for essentials.
No hard plastics on reachable areas.
No resetting the previous drive mode on restart.
No dramatic warnings on displays and by sound every two minutes for lowish washer fluid.
No ping and bongs when I have the drivers door open.
No fake vents.
No fake exhaust.
No water intrusion in the headlights at delivery.
No cheap tires on track friendly models.
There you go, probably the worlds best car!
Pls add something that annoys you so the developers can take notes.
No stupid fake engine noise pumped in through the cars speakers.
Nailed it
interesting exterior and interior colours
No “always on radio” (Audi, Porsche). Off is really off (not mute) and no I don’t want it back on every time I turn on the ignition!
You pretty much nailed it. Also no de facto start stop every time the car turns on. I hate touch screens. Hate them. Not one does the job as good as a tactile button or switch.
I am definatley getting old and turning into my dad. The price of cars is just utterly crazy. a hundred grand! what?
If I told you how much houses are now you'll explode!
Joking aside, a valid point and one I raise in the video
I'm so old, I remember when people were very excited about Hankooks. 😆
This is very good review.
He is spot on regarding the options, and the touch screen (and the other things)
Regarding Audi Exclusive, when I was ordering a brand new RS3 back in 2018 I couldn’t express my interest enough to the dealer in my interest in making some changes to the car via Audi Exclusive, they couldn’t be less interested. The salesman even went and ‘had a phone call’ with someone at Audi and they apparently wouldn’t let me. Maybe it’s a dealer issue, or maybe Audi UK don’t care, but either way I wasn’t impressed.
I have a Mexico Blue RS3 ;)
There has been a recent change to the regulations that bring this situation on. It is much more cost effective for Audi to type approve a few pre configured models.
Depends if you are buying or hiring, if hiring you don't have much say but if you're buying, stand up, shake their hand and walk away. After a few sales losses, it may change their mind.
@@An.Individual I don't buy that.
EU has the same WLTP regulations and you can spec Audis to your heart's desire in that market. Even Republic of Ireland. UK is the ONLY market where they have the Base, Black, Carbon Black and Vorsprung editions.
I have spoken to several main dealers, some of whom have close relationships at Milton Keynes, and the consensus of opinion is that Audi UK don't understand what buyers of RS models want and can't (won't) explain why the UK is so limited in choice.
I have also bombarded Audi UK to explain and they refuse.
The problem is we are willing to accept the lower choice without question. Germans would not!
This is not a Brexit thing either, it's Audi UK idiocy & sticking two fingers to their customers.
They have defo lost sales as I see many comments on social media, but with the current one year waiting list, it will not encourage them to change their policy anytime soon.
Audi seem hell bent on not offering any other interior colour than black.
"Nobody bought one" "What went wrong?"
As a German that surprised me because here they sold like Bratwurst and Weißbier, in fact, after 2 years now, you see these new RS6 everywhere.
I guess in the UK they didn't sell well because as i've been told, they were even rare at big Audi Dealers in the UK and then there of course is the whole right-hand drive thing, which means UK Dealers can't just buy & trade Audi RS6 from the rest of europe unless they got customers that don't mind left-hand drive. Kinda like selling a right-hand drive UK Model of any Car in Germany, even if it's Aston Martin or Jaguar is nearly impossible unless you offer it for way below normal price.
High Performance "Wagons" or as we call them in Germany "Kombi" are insanely popular, especially Audi RS ones. Just earlier today i drove to Frankfurt am Main on Business and i saw 3x of this model of Audi RS6.
Seeing upper Models of BMW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz is very common in Frankfurt am Main, hell, Frankfurt is probably the only big city i've been to where you see more Porsche than anything else, must be all the midlife crisis Bankers.
Nah but seriously, from all the High Performance Wagons, Audi RS6 are the most common, why? I'm not sure, i guess People who buy AMG, M and RS Wagons prefer the more sporty/aggressive look of the RS6, but i always found it interesting how far ahead in popularity the RS6 is over the AMG and M Wagons.
I’ve seen loads of new RS6 in the UK.
The UK has Brexited on correct-hand-drive way before the actual Brexit. Did they think moving the steering wheel to the other side would make their cars stand out from the rest?
@@SvenTheSveed me too, common as muck. Only rs model I see as much is the 3. The 1,5, and 7 are all more rare on the road I think
Probably because you can’t buy an M wagon
In no way does that Audi look aggressive
You're spot on James! I had one of these on order (would have been my 8th new Audi). I paid my deposit before they launched the UK configurator. So I spec'd mine using the DE configurator - exactly as I wanted it. When Audi UK tried to submit the order, Audi Germany rejected it and said it must be spec'd with the now launched UK configurator. Given how limiting the choices were for the UK, I cancelled my order, thinking I'd just by an ex demo car - then I never bothered as the spec is so poor on all cars I've seen... Shame.
Welcome to the brexit sir, I'm sorry.
@@Manu-Official the gift that keeps giving (face palm)
@@darrenleecollins76 For the record, I used to get my parts from Audi within 24 hours, straight from Germany. Now it's within a week. I will not very gladly join you with a secondary facepalm.
I hate the Audi brand, but I love the RS6 Estate,I would consider one as they are so rare…
@@Manu-Official maybe one day someone will show us an upside, but I won’t hold my breath
I learnt a lot from Jay's review. I like the look of the C8, but having listened to Jay's report I am more inclined than before to stick with my awsome C7 RS6.
Wish you a pleasant drive!
Do they still fit the magnetic front bumper, or does the adaptive cruise control now keep Audis 12" from the car in front?
Great video, James. Super informative and absolutely hits the nail on the head. Thanks
Videos like this are what put this channel above others. Great content 👍
Love this car- dream estate for long journeys imo.
Had the V10 when it was new absolute GOAT family GT.
@@adamkhan5274 when we look back at the rs6 in the future this car won't seem like a huge leap on from the C6 , this might be 12 years newer but unless your driving it at 9/10ths you won't notice a lot of difference. The C6 will be a collectors car , this won't.
@@dagnut I know. Specced it from new, ceramics the lot. And was one of the first to have it tuned by MRC. They are doing silly 1000bhp ones now but 750bhp and 960nm wasnt too shabby over 10 years ago... this was my car: ua-cam.com/video/uizo43DvevI/v-deo.html
Very nice car. Completely agree about physical buttons for HVAC. Really sad that the top version do not get the same features as other countries. They definitely should not have had so many spec versions. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Great review, great content and honest review on all the motors you do👍🏻
Now BMW and Merc are doing AWD, what is the selling point of the RS6?
The whole screen-and-touch-controls-for-everything is deeply unintuitive and potentially dangerous in use, because of the amount of times you have to take your eyes off the road.
I can't help thinking that one of the major reasons for the move is cost saving by the manufacturers. Since modern cars don't have levers to directly control the HVAC, it's all done by servomotors, the buttons can easily be replaced by a touchscreen controlling the various servos. Engineering and producing buttons, with tiny springs, individual lights and robust switches capable of a lifetime's use, in a shape that sits harmoniously within a swoopy modern dashboard, is costly.
PS. James - can you set your interior camera to manual focus, please - the AF hunting as you talk is distracting.
I feel there are not enough dissenting voices out there stating the glaringly obvious fact that touch tech is dangerous and not liked by the majority of drivers. I will not purchase any car which has it, but that means I keep my aging R32 for just that bit longer.
Its all about money again, idiots cost cutting and even bigger idiots loving it cuz its "new tech"
And unless you’re left-handed, it can be awkward to work the screen in a car that’s RHD.
And then once you're finished driving, you're left with fingerprints everywhere.
Yes indeed it much cheaper to put a £20 touch screen in there, than designed a bunch of intricate parts that require unique moulds in the factory...
The touch screens are becoming secondary use items, most of the new cars have voice control systems and the manufacturers want you to use those instead, when you can control everything from a single button on the steering wheel, it does become safer to use. The screens etc are just there for redundancy.
A really great video as always and a really, really nice car. Your points on specification differences between the UK and Europe are so right. When I bought by first Q7, I managed to spec the HUD as a one off selectable item. When it came to trade that in and buy another Q7, Audi changed this and you could only get the HUD by specifying the Vorsprung model which contained a whole load of stuff I didn't want plus an unreal cost as well. Upon taking to Audi UK, they said this was down to Audi UK specifying what options they wanted UK folks to have. When I checked the Audi Germany website, it allowed the HUD as an individually selectable option. Crazy stuff. Audi need to get real and stop driving folks down these pre-set specs that force you into pre-set packs - no doubt done to make it easier to build.
As always a great honest review .
Thank you for a genuinely informative review James.
Special thanks for avoiding the words:-
Game changing
Mad
Chaos
Cash
etc…
Excellent concise review as always from the best guy!
My reviews have been called many things but rarely concise!
What a fantastic review, cheers James.
And Germany loves you, man. Greetings actually FROM the Black Forest!
Here in switzerland the RS6 is extremely popular. Every 4th RS6 sold globally is sold in switzerland, which is crazy as this is a tiny country. Personally, I prefer the previous generation, it has the nice exterior and interior
It would be popular in Switzerland though..........wonder why it sells so well there?
Ideal for the alpine winter and the Swiss have the incomes to afford it.
@@sergeb1207 the Swiss also have the worst speed-Nazi police in Europe... why not just buy the 3.0 diesel?
@@richardharrold9736 you're above the law if you're rich enough.
Now BMW and Merc are doing AWD, what is the selling point of the RS6?
You get a “Like” just for the “Push It To The Limit” music choice. Great content as always! I used to whine that they didn’t sell the RS6 in the USA, and I said if they brought it here, I’d buy one. Well now it’s here and guess what… I don’t have one. Would be a great third car, but not at full retail..
This is your best work.
Great balanced review as always James. 👍 Totally agree about preferring a twiddly knob for heat/fans. I’ve found with the touchscreens that I am twice as likely to do the opposite of what I am trying to control and then craning my neck to try to put it right with eyes off the road. So I just don’t attempt HVAC tweaks whilst in motion - but have learnt some voice controls to do some things - is voice the way the manufacturers expect them to be used whilst driving? Or at the price of the RS6 do Audi think owners will employ a co-driver to work the touchscreens?
35 years in Switzerland..never experienced a blackout....the English must be used to the inconvenience by now...amazing....keep up the good work bud!
The UK just went through 3 consecutive storms including winds up to 200 km/h, new record since the 1987 storm.
Fantastic video in terms of content. I’ve been looking at the 2nd market for these for a while and there’s tons of them for sale! But you’re right your comment on “how many have you seen on the road” made me wonder (I agree I haven’t seen many). I think the price is the main factor: the equivalent age/spec E63 are in the £70ks against 90-100k for the Audi.
Extremely good review, very comprehensive. Btw why’s the EML light on James?
I know it’s not the same car but a new base RS4 when it came out in 2018 was only £56k, now they’ve dramatically increased in price in the last 4 years. Prices have gone crazy.
Porsche had made a statement back in 2020 I think. They said they were pushing the UK prices up because brexit. Back in the day, I was one of those people saying it would push the prices up, limit availability etc. The problem being, the UK's business is based on selling with no stock then ordering mostly from abroad.
More in detail, Operation TAP is now in full swing and failing in Dover, because brexit tape. Miles and miles of lorries, maybe possibly the poor driver who's stuck in there, is on his way to get your next car parts.
Keep in mind that VW has taken a major hit with DieselGate hmm hmmm recoup costs *cough
Sorry Mr Paz. The Satnav says Sunlit Uplands not found.
In Ireland the RS4 is over 104k euro!!!
US buyer here. We're trading our E63 Estate (RWD) in on the RS6 that we placed a deposit on last year. We had no issues with getting Audi Exclusive options from our dealer including the paint color. I'm glad we finally get the opportunity to own a RS6 stateside.
A year late but i just bought a 14 plate C7 RS6. Car life goal achieved!!!!
Totally agree about the touch controls for the most common things such as cabin temp. When it first came out on the Velar I found it ridiculously distracting and over complicated !
A bit of individual flair suits pretty much any car, expensive ones as well as cheaper ones. It feels more like your very specific own car, which is a great feeling and if you make tastefull choices, you normally shouldn't have more difficulty selling it later on. Much appreciated, that point you make there. I also appreciate the RS6 very much, but yeah ... very expensive.
Hi James,
Another quality presentation. Some months ago you had a dark green 986 in your possession and indicated you would be doing a few videos
on this car as an entry level sports car which represents good value. Very interested to see this car featured. I have a 2004 model in your favourite colour of silver and have lots of fun using it as a weekender. Keep up the great content. Regards Phil
Hi Phil
The Boxster is still very much "ours", however it is presently up in Scotland where it appears to have been adopted by my partner's family!
I shall be trying to do more content on it soon
James
A very timely review. Sam from STG has just bought one.
Cool way of introducing your partners at the start. V innovative.
..........so. I know someone who had one of these, OH DEAR OH DEAR OH DEAR. Your vid JayEmm, puts "things" into a whole new perspective.
Completely agree about tactile controls for common functions.
Got to be honest I was obsessed with this car when it came out and read every single road test including yours which actually led me to become a subscriber on your channel so not all bad. The fact is the Interior or audis has gone down hill since the TT and the R8 and the RS6 looks so much like all the cheaper models inside. Where s all the beautiful stitching like Porsche do, some standout colours which are RS6 only. I followed them in the classifieds and always knew they were going to plummet as it just wasn't really good enough. Plus for the money your choice is endless and today you would definately buy a porsche taycan cross turismo instead as it is faster better styled and way more interesting!
I have a tango red 22’ every option. I’ve done Ecu exhaust intakes >750hp & LOVEEEEE IT! Best car and I get more compliments at gas stations than even my McLaren spider! 23k so far 0 issues. Prior daily was a 730hp 2015 RS7 did 62k never in shop once.
11:54, information such as this is what makes these videos stand out compared to the others on the net. Not only is it informative to the consumers , but also to people who are just curious. 👍
Brilliant review! It appears Sam from Seen Thru Glass has just bought one!
I’ve the C7 S6 Avant. It ticks all the boxes especially given I have basic dials for the heating controls!
Haha the vid of the grey rs6 was just in my city, was very excited to see it😄
James another truly enjoyable video. Informative with a sprinkling of humour. Thank you. Please don't get rich and bugger off to America. We need you.
Ha, no promises!
I’ve been fortunate enough to have a passenger ride in one with a fast driver and it’s an unbelievable car. It literally is the perfect all rounder with so much equipment, space etc. and the performance is incredible, it actually makes you laugh. You wouldn’t believe you were travelling in a 2 ton estate car. I’ve got an S4 myself but the difference is performance is vast from a “quick” car to an RS6. I can’t imagine what it would feel like to go from a normal car to an RS6.
All the statistics and drag races show the RS6 is slower than the E63S or F90 M5 competition, so goodness knows what they must be like.
Kick ass review
Next door neighbour has had his for approx 18 months . Been back to Audi several times for quality issues e.g leaking sunroof and paint peeling in places. He was a long term Audi customer
Great video, totally agree with touch screen too fiddly for basic controls. For that sort of money should have the best spec
How did you get air suspension and the sunroof together? I planned to buy an RS6 in 2021. I wanted comfort&sound pack for keyless, plus sunroof, towbar, and air suspension as its a family cruiser. You can't spec keyless and towbar, you cant spec sunroof without the vorsprung model and that cant have the air susp. Then theres the stupid screen for the heater etc.
Great car badly through through by Audi.
As someone who owns a 2012 Audi Avant ( had it 3 years done 30K and cost under £6K) with no issues i would based on 26:08 my experience buy another Audi but even if funds permitted the latest version of the RS6 is just too aggressive looking and sadly all that mass of black plastic on the grill looks cheap and reminds me of plastic milk crates or plastic stacker boxes! Excellent video really well balanced and for those lucky enough to buy one new or used everything you need to know is covered.
I've seen numerous RS6's around the greater Chicagoland area since it came out😎 Just yesterday I saw one on the used car lot at a Jaguar dealership in Hinsdale...with ALL SILVER rims, not those ugly ones most have....AND it's in what I call "Light Battleship Gray"🔥🔥🔥🔥
RS6 in Java Green, Nogaro Blue or Sonoma Orange with duotone black-cream full-leather interior would be tasty.
15:08 Ahhhhh the classic engine management light from Audi. Classic.
Every car when the key is turned to just "ignition" displays the engine management light...
Fascinating!!!
I do love my Audi, but I also keep feeling frustrated when looking at buying a new model. Reversing camera an option? A very basic mood lighting an option... Digital dash and option. What's next? Delivered pre-assembled an option?
Always makes me appreciate my Stinger GTS a bit more when I see comments like this.
Absolutely everything included as standard in the Kia (plus 7 year warranty, low tax, ridiculously low insurance… bliss!)
@@wallstock The warranty is another thing, especially on the BMW. If the car is that good, why such a non-existent warranty?
Don't buy german lol.
@@wallstock Still a KIA. Nothing to brag about.
@@bloodysinner9456 Wasn’t bragging. I said I appreciate what comes with it, plus a couple of other perks.
Enjoyable review, first RS6 that hasn't appealed to me
Great review as always James. As you alluded to there are a number of factors, pandemic being one of them. These just don't sell in times of crisis, C6 V10 RS6 was affected badly by the financial crash, try and find a C6 saloon! But add to that;
1/Price point
2/not seen as a significant upgrade to the C7/7.5 whereas up until that time there was a significant improvement either in performance and / or dynamics in each generation
3/increased competition not only from other marques but also internally in RSQ8, R8 (for some)
4/ in competition form other marques, from a performance perspective the RS6 is lacking and it only trumps in aesthetics and build quality
but more than any other reason, Audi UK's and it franchisees attitude to selling. Try and get a test drive, you couldn't. Yet they want people to walk in to a dealership, part with over £100k (finance or not) without even driving the car. They pander after the credit generation who buy on a whim and dispose of their cars like toilet paper and forget their core customer base which why they've only sold around 1,000 of them.
Also add to that and again as you said, the C7 was and still is a fantastic car and more than a match, so why pay £50K plus more for this? When it came out with 600PS, less than the C7.5 Performance and a muted tone so many were disappointed. It should have been so much better than it is and genuinely is one of those replacements that couldn't fill the shoes of the predecessor.
Hey Jayemm, have you had a go on the new Flying Spur yet? My folks just placed their order for the V8 version and was curious if you had any thoughts on the newish range. Thanks.
I think you may need to view the latest tyre comparison tests to update your judgement of Hangkooks. I put the best tyres available on my cars and have Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on my XKR for the summer and the factory spec Pirellis for the winter. But for my Lexus nx300h, which needed a new set of Winter tyres this last season (legal requirement where I live), I did my research at length and bought the latest Hangkooks. They were excellent and by the way, not cheap!
Jay drinks Thatchers cider was my biggest insight here 😄
What a god tier vehicle. So much want, only in dreams.
Push it to the limit is the soundtrack I listen to before I go on track! Gets you pumped up.
Or alternatively, Indestructible by Disturbed.
Couldn't agree more with having to take you eyes off the road for essential controls!
Didn’t sell well? Have you ever been to Wilmslow or Alderley Edge?
Yep drove through Knutsford, Mobberley & Wilmslow on my way to Handforth & felt like a right pauper in my Jaguar XF S Sportbrake 🤥still it doesn't use a stupid touchscreen for the heating controls 😊
I love taking my 07 Octavia 1.9 TDI round those parts to sense their annoyance!
@@jamesbrett6518 Top work my man, even as recently as 07 I drove my "M" reg Rover 414 through those areas, even worse I had bikes on the roof as well 😄people would look away in disgust
even if there are a few of these around you - the objective fact is that Audi has sold fewer than 1,000 of these in the UK. So yes they are a very rare sight. Previous generations sold like 5x better than this one.
Come to Scotland, plenty £500 shitboxes still cutting about, gives you the gumtree flick through.
Save up for the Vorsprung model. Had it 6 weeks before it was nicked. Yes, it had a tracker fitted but when they gain entry to your house is it worth it?
Agree on the air suspension, seems a must on a huge performance estate
Have watched your videos for years jay, if your ever in North Scotland I'd he happy for you to have a go in my E46 clubsport. Revisit your original petrol head car.
6:39 so glad someone has pointed out about the peculiarity of the Audi specs list James. I've been looking at used E-Tron and ever since it was launched, Audi has slowly been eroding away the spec of the car. I'll give you an example, beginning of 2021, the dealers offloaded their 19 reg demo cars (these were all either grey or galaxy blue colour, cream leather interior with ventilated seats, tour pack, ambient lighting, 30 camera, B&O, standard 20" 5 spoke alloys) because Audi had removed a lot of the options that these were fitted with from the spec list. Many of the earlier cars also came with the comfort seats, which they no longer offer here in the UK. But from what I understand in many other countries they still offer these. I know in the US if you spec one with the prestige package or something, you can still get these. It just doesn't make sense!!! Sure it's more effort to account for different specs for different countries on the same assembly line rather than having just one assembly line and allowing people from all countries where they sell to get the equipment they want? Honestly, when I'm hopefully financially in a position to be able to afford a brand new car, I think I'll go for a Mercedes as it's simple.....AMG Line with premiums plus package.....and voila, you know you've got pretty much a fully loaded car.
I had an AMG line for 10 days once, as new. Noisy (wheel noise and engine noise), uncomfortable, rear light cluster taking water in, some rattle deep inside the middle of the dash and I know I'm not the only one mentioning the rattling. Setting it to comfort mode was still uncomfortable.
Last but not least, the 9 speed gearbox didn't know what it was doing, shifting down while in corners and being readily geared down after you passed the corner. Not to mention being able to click the gears only one by one, it would not shift 2 gears if you clicked twice, very slow to react when shifting multiple gears... The 9th gear would struggle to turn up at 70 MPH as well, making that annoying on British motorways.
Other than that the brakes were amazing, and the car looked stunning. Better to test drive one before buying one and realising it doesn't meet your expectations.
@@Manu-Official Yeah true, but I'm looking at it from the simplicity of a spec list. Hopefully my next car will be electric, so most of those issues will be a non issue as they don't have gears. But I was looking at it from the perspective of a second hand buyer, if you want an Audi, you'd need to look for one, and then see what options the user ticked when he/she/they bought it. Whereas with Mercedes, they have nice simple packs. I really do prefer the design language of Audi over Mercedes, but having to wait around looking for the spec I want puts me off. I will hopefully in 3-4 years time go for the early 2019 reg ex demo E-Tron that I mentioned above (if one comes up for sale and is within my budget by then)
@@mrmuds8624 Hahaha I did have a giggle, because I wanted my latest car without electric seats, but still half electric AND heated (yeah that sounds complicated), without a sun roof. I wanted less of this while more of that, a full infotainment and sound system, took me a while to find the right spec.
I agree having a whole package at the ready is less of a headache having to go through a list of things...
The problem with the UK is, you're bound by the UK market to find a nice spec due to RHD. On the continent, I see a lot of people simply importing from Germany at lower prices, and you simply can't do that in the UK...
You should come to St Albans they are every where.
I ordered an 8Y RS3 in Vorsprung for the same reason it is really disappointing that the European models across the ranges don't get the same styling packs. having real heater controls is a really important feature. If you want to see plenty of RS6 come to Hereford!
Interesting video; maybe people are going electric instead? My Father just got his brand new Porsche Taycan 4S Cross Turismo this week. He did decide to go with white/grey exterior colour and a crayon leather interior. Although, Porsche allow you to have an exact specification and not packs.
Spot on review, I also think along with the extreme new design as opposed to the reserved Rs6 look which put off traditional Rs6 buyers, as rapid as this car may be, it has been shown time and time again to have been out performed by its competitors M5 Comp and E63S. Rs6 once stood above its competitors in its class as the M3 does in own its class, and this generation Rs6 simply didn’t. Mighty impressive car either way anyone would dream of owning.
I agree, this thing is far too overstyled. Interior isn’t up to scratch either
I disagree, I see a fair few of them about on the roads. I definitely see more of them than the E63 estate
how do you spell "supply chain difficulties"...?
Love a good Check Engine Lamp though!
Excellent review, Jay. You’ve become one of the most reliable and trusted car journalists out there! Such a shame all these expensive car interiors are just full of screens instead of reliable and safer buttons controls. Just goes to show the importance of the quote, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
those dual screens inside are an absolute deal breaker for me.. in any car. unacceptable. the e63s is prettier anyway
Good flow with your reviews. Nice car, with terrible exhaust. Love the speed and capability though.
A6 Avant or Jag XF Sportbrake?
Merc E seems somewhat OK, BMW 5 almost its twin on the street.
Might I need to go with a Passat or Superb for practicality, give up on excitement? Those prices for a bit more horsepower...
I never knew this car didn’t sell well, in Birmingham I’ve seen quite a few of them
Probably because its so ludicrously expensive.
Birmingham? They're probably drug dealers 😂
In my place I’ve seen more RS6 than M5 and E63s too, I’m not sure about the M5 but RS6 definitely sells more than E63s
Here in the Netherlands you can see quite a lot RS6 on the road. Beside of that I liked the "old" Version better in terms of design. I guess one of it`s problems in the UK is maybe the E-Class Estate made by AMG. Seems they sell better on the big Island.
I won't lie James, there's been loads here in the Midlands since it went on sale, so I always presumed it did 'well'. Perhaps you've just not seen a lot of cars in your local area? I've personally seen endless Levantes, new shape Vantages etc. which you previously mentioned in other videos.
So odd that I've seen more McLaren GTs than RS6s!
Sam bought a wonderfully spec'd one, when are we going to see you on his podcast!?!
So happy that you mentioned the lack of customisation on posh Audis. Some AMGs aren't any better. With these cars, you're often restricted to a handful of colours and a few interior options (mostly, if not entirely, black or grey). I often fail to see why; surely people with £100k to spend on a car would want customisation, and surely manufacturers would want to offer more customisation to appeal to customers willing to spend the extra cash? I'm sure it's easier said than done, but they should take a leaf out of Porsche's book. Exclusive/PTS colours are now more available than ever and actually help the car both stand out on the used market and resist depreciation. Even expensive BMWs offer more customisation options and it allows cars to look different between each other. I'm glad it's not just me who is finding fast Audis looking all too similar in terms of spec.
So so right about touch screen! What possesses manufacturers to impose it, heaven only knows.
There’s actually 3 new RS6 on my school run and another 2 in the town. I’ve also got a Navarra Blue one too. However as mine has had 8 separate issues and been in the dealership 14 times in 17 months I would recommend buying anything but. It’s my first and last Audi.
This is concerning. 8 different issues? Is this common with a lot of RS6’s? I just ordered mine and it’s arriving in a few weeks. I have a 2011 E63 and it’s never had any issue but spotty Bluetooth.
@@ssalloom11 I think it’s just my car as everyone else I know with one is surprised at my experience. Unless it’s a mileage thing, as I’m on 35k miles in 17 months. Worst car/dealer experience ever though. After taking over 2 weeks to fix a failed thermostat ( including 4 days of them struggling to do a wheel alignment as the rear wheel steer was “throwing out the machine”) I had the car for 8 days before spending 7 hours waiting for a breakdown truck due to a failed alternator. They say it’s a software issue and the car won’t accept the update, so they a waiting for Audi to give help; while I’m stuck in a crappy Q2! Just a individual bad car, I think, but I’ll never by another Audi. Selling it as soon as possible which unfortunately isn’t too soon due to new car shortage. Good luck. 👍
@@millemodello thanks for taking the time to respond Guy. I was pretty concerned. I’m going to check lemon laws in California when a car is bought out of state, as I’m getting mine from the east coast. Good luck with your dilemma. Sorry to hear about your trouble sounds rough.
I find the new RS6 too shouty looks wise (I drive a debadged Alpina B5 which does the fast stealth thing v. well) but a friend has one which has an Exclusive interior and exterior. Exterior is in Porsche Oak Green Metallic and the interior in a mix of leather & alcantara in lovely and unusual mid brown. It’s fantastic.
As for popularity I can confirm the comment below about how common they are here in Switzerland. I read they account for over 10% of all Audi A6 sales and if anything that felt low. My friend is Italian.
There is a fierce competition between tyre companies for the contract of supplying a new model. Hankook on the Audi, Nankang on the Cayenne are just a few examples of how far the "lower tier" brand companies have come in recent years in development. It is also easy to discard a brand without realising that they're capability of producing a premium tyre has nothing to do with the market they ususally aim to fulfill. Having worked in the industry for a while now, I have seen brands like Kumho or Cooper beat Michelin and Continental when they are aiming for it. Producing that kind quality across the range of all tyres is a different story all together. Thanks for pointing at the topic.
Maybe it's different in Europe as I know tyres can vary depending on where you buy them, but I fitted a set of Hankooks to my 400rwhp Falcon about 5 years back - can't remember what the model was but at the time they were Hankook's top summer performance tyre. They were utter shit - couldn't put the power down, all but useless in the wet, and wore out in something like 20,000km so didn't even end up saving me any money - went back to PS4S's - worth the price. Likewise I've driven powerful cars on Nankangs, and they were also utter garbage. I do have some respect for Kumho though, they seem to have some good stuff. Audi fitting Hankooks to this is just VAG doing what VAG do, penny pinching. They are a shit company.
There's a Nardo Grey one somewhere in my area, it looks and sounds mint... yet, I see more McLaren GTs
Upside down cider can on UK road side a treat
Trim levels are an issue with the RS3. The UK configurator for RS3 hardly has any optional extras especially for the interior. The german configurator has loads of options for the RS3 not available in the UK.
Really good looking car for an Audi.
James, you need to try and get in a b3 or b5 touring
Have seen many new RS6s here in Sweden 🤩
Sam from SeenThroughGlass has just revealed this is going to be his next daily!
In the Antwerp area alone, we have about five of them driving around. Maybe it just didn't do well in the UK?
That moment when you realise a meesly 20k euro Clio RS Trophy came with Michellin Super Sport tyres from the factory :) Now imagine paying 5x that and Audi couldn't be bother to put some proper Michellin tyres on their car. Yikes!
Michellin is not the be all and end all of tires im tired of morons thinking it is so
Because the RS6 is meant to be an all weather car, slick Michelins would be nothing short of dangerous.
@@SvenTheSveed they aren't slicks. Similar design like the well loves PS4 now PS5. It was a nice touche Renault did by selling the cars with Michellin. I'd love Audi to do the same. I still love the RS, just the petty things.
its all about who pays the most/least
I do wonder whether something like the lack of premium branded tyres is enough of an impediment to someone who's in the market for such a car?
These Audi engineers are a smart lot. They would no doubt have done their due diligence regarding the performance of the Hankook rubber, vis a vis the product brief (and what Audi needs to deliver to the customer).
James didn't seem to have an issue with how they performed, so from that perspective, one could reasonably surmise that the Hankooks are up to the task.
I'm curious to hear whether or not tyre "brand" is enough of a deciding factor, broadly, when considering a car like the RS6.
Or do folks take it as a given that Audi will deliver the appropriate product and hence, whether it's Michelin or Hankook; tyre brand doesn't significantly matter?
Theres a black Vorsprung model on a 20 reg just up the road from me (Leicestershire)
I’d rather have a Panamera GTS or an E63S over the RS6. Still an amazing car but doesn’t match the competition in my point of view
Always proper reviews. Great stuff. Please give a lesson on reviews to some others who own an RS6 and bang on about them constantly being the best “daily driver” with no real substance.