Is The Audi RS E-Tron GT Really So Good I'd Buy It Instead of An RS6?
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2022
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In today's video, I am driving Audi's spiciest EV - the RS E-Tron GT. Effectively an Audi version of the Porsche Taycan Turbo - is this as good?
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Anything over £100,000 you should get a sunroof, 360 camera & heads-up display. Not getting all the toys is simply taking the piss. If an EV6 GT can give you 500bhp & 4 seats for £60k then Audi should up their game.
if u buy an ev ur probly vaccinated
The more you pay for a car, the less spec you get . A £130k Taycan doesn't even get heated front seats.
Motoring journalists losing the plot when a £130k is value for money. In the real world £30k is a lot of money.
The EV6 GT has 577 bhp for £60k
@@BAC_Mono Does the exact bhp really matter? It is good value for money. Gives you a 360 camera, heated seats good bhp. For half the cost of the Audi... OK maybe not so good looking... Not a GT in the real terms... But still it is Audi that needs to up its game not KIA
£135,000.
Im getting old - in my head thats Ferrari money but in reality it hasnt been for many, many years...
Indeed. In 2022 £135k is a well specced BMW M5. You'll need to find another £100k for a prancing horse.
Man I said this exact thing yesterday to a guy who's just bought a brand new X7
What’s crazy is to see these SUVs that go up to 150k plus
Remember when $100,000 for a car was big money? Remember that one song when Will Smith was singing about Miami and he was like "$100,000 cars everybody got 'em", now it would be like $300,000 cars.
@@venom5809 guys welcome to the economical term called: "Inflation" let me put a wikipedia for you guys so you learn: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
My first car (an Allegro) was that colour. I still need counselling from time to time
For that price I'd expect a sunroof personally!
@ ben williams. For that price, I'd expect a second story and a pool. Impressive and nice as it may be, it still won't do long distances like my diesel Skoda Superb, which cost less than half of one of those extra's packs...so for regular people on a normal budget, pretty much all EV's are still an unaffordable extravagance that are consigned to "maybe sometime in the future", if I live long enough. Cheers!
Not when you realise how much all VW group sunroofs rattle, creak and squeek.
@@aidencoder dont forget the leaks! At least on the golfs
@@phillipevans9414 Fully agree, far too expensive and the infrastructure doesn't seem up to scratch yet either!
@@aidencoder I have one in my A7 Vorsprung and it doesnt rattle, squeak, creak, or leak thanx.
If I'm honest, whilst this still the best looking EV, I'll still have an RS6 over this anyday, it has huge performance whilst still room in the boot for a double pram!
It's ugly and useless
I think it's the most beautiful Audi in 15 years. As always James, a very nice review and video.
i think its not good lookin anyway, lightyear one looks lkind of like like audi s7 but its prius levels of sporty for bently levels of money lol, but they said it was becoming cheaper down to 33k usd. theres aptera if going 2 seater, nimbus if going 1 seater
@@kalmmonke5037if you think that, then you need to get your eyes checked stat. This is easily one of the most beautiful car shapes on the road and one of Audis alltime best designs.
Excellent video, well balanced and informative. Have test driven both the RS and non-RS versions, both astonishing cars and the RS performance is other worldly. Very fortunate to have a non-RS GT Quattro on its way to me (build week was mid-June but parts delays means it's probably now going to be here mid November at the earliest). As a heads up, the 360 camera comes with the Comfort and Sound pack on the non-RS, but I agree, it's bonkers that you have to spec the Parking Assistance package on the RS to get the camera at nearly £1800. Hifi wise, that's useful (and worrying) info... The B&O system on my current B9 S4 has done the same thing from new, rattles everywhere, EQ set neutral and volume at less than the mid position and several trips back to the workshop for fixes under warranty... Only reason I spec'd the C&S pack was for the matrix LED and Park Assistance (due to that crap visibility) so I guess I'll find out for myself just how bad the B&O is in this thing soon.
Sunroof wise, weirdly it is standard on the 'basic' RS, only when you switch to the Carbon and above does it then become unavailable. If I was spec'ing an RS personally I'd stick with the non Carbon model for a less intrusively dark cabin and take the hit on it costing maybe a bit more to add the options than in a Vorpsrung package (which currently, as you say due to Audi UK's inflexibility, is only available as a Carbon Vorsprung).
Great work again, would be interested to see how you get along with the non-RS version in a video in the future.
Colour looks a bit 70's British Leyland
Very interesting and detailed review. I really love the "JayEmm" Sounds for the car. Maybe one day you can change the EV Cars Soundfiles with a hack :-D
As a tall and large person (6’5”, 240lbs) the Audi and Porsche have a very small interior for there size. When I push the seat all the way back my hips are almost behind the center pillar, making side visibility horrible, and making getting out very difficult. No one will be able to sit behind me making it a three person car. Compared to a Panamerica or Audi 7 it’s a compact car interior. Your charging costs in the UK are scary compared to USA.
Yes finally been waiting for this, love this car such road presence without being flash!
🤣🤣 You even made that truck move over on your test drive! Love it👍🏻
The other James Martin (Chef) has one of these and loves it too. Been in it as a passenger with him, the performance is mind boggling.
You should talk to him about doing a guest appearance on the JayEmm channel! ;)
@@richardharrold9736 If he wasn’t such a workaholic he probably would !
@@martinboulden4388 the man needs his head looked... turned down DBS #007 from Barbara Broccoli and dumped her for trying to give it to him... even if the relationship was ending anyway, he should have taken the damn car! All work and no play makes for a very dull man...
@@richardharrold9736 i can’t discuss that but his car collection is incredible and all paid for by hard work rather than exploiting love interests.
16:26 the sounds of JayEmm getting his knob polished
Thanks for the mental image...
😂😭😈
My brother has just started to lease one of these. Carbon version. Looks stunning in the flesh. Performance is as expected. The most surprising things were: level of suspension comfort, in comfort, was E-Class like and traction was Impreza like. Too much money for my liking though..
I agree about having to press start in an EV I often forget get in and try to go then realise it’s not switched on. The Renault Zoe is the worst as it gives some chime noise as you get in confusing you that it’s powered up 😂
Great review. I have had the RS e-tron GT Carbon Vorsprung on order since mid Feb, still no sign of it (was due September) hence you see very few if any on the road (only seen 2 in 10 months). Agree with a lot of your thoughts after test driving most EV’s available at the top end, apart from the new EQS. Heads up display and 360 camera is standard on the edition I have ordered.
Topixal uploading as just been on a morning walk & seen only my 3rd e-tron GT!
Love it, Love it, LOve it. James another great review...Audi have done it this time...great use of vintage wing mirrors, vintage fit and finish and that Austin Allegro paint job....sooo 1970's!!!
Subjective I know but that colour looks like something from British Leylands 1970s catalogue
100% agree with you James. You are the only online reviewer to have mentioned my frustration with Audi and their culling of options for the UK buyer. Audi must realise this will cost them customers in the long run.
It would, but it won't be enough for them to really care. The UK is a relatively small market that expects to be treated like the rest of the EU despite driving on the opposite side of the road compared to them and after voting themselves out of EU trade agreements. And to be frank, I live in the UK.
@@pangolin83 Small market, but a profitable one, bit like icing on a cake? Maybe....
Wonderful video. Potentially your best yet.
Why oh why did Audi think this would be a good colour to sell their car?
There's an anecdote in F1 that Bernie Ecclestone changed Brabham's name from MRD (Motor Racing Development) back to Brabham because it sounded like "merde" in French.
Audi will face a similar issue selling this car/color combo in francophone countries.
Saw the same model car, same colour, in Germany last July. Looked stunning. Great review, particularly in dealing with the Model S Plaid issue.
Plaid has over 1,020hp, in model x(!) and s form, makes this an option for those who don't like Tesla or their design and for the super rich too etc...
@@bloodstockvip2176 hp isn't everything
@@raffefly2148 I know but it's significantly less than a Plaid you can't argue that
Audi are not fussed about varients in UK as most by Audi's for status reasons. And many would buy poverty spec so long as they got the badge it is all good to them.
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It's not just Audi,Jay,the U.K. version of the late model 5.0Ford Mustang GT is lower specification,has less power and even worse,is considerably cheaper in the USA.
In regards to the trim levels I often wonder if it’s a product of PCP and lease deals. People going for very few if any options. The fact the options most people like a lumped in with others that most wouldn’t usually go for in these trim levels now helps sell them as well.
That or perhaps because its RHD and they want to streamline the assembly.
Cost savings most likely influenced by recent financial happenings and Brexit
@@pangolin83 I’m not being confrontational here I’m genuinely interested, why would having three trim levels help during the recent finical situation? Wouldn’t giving customers more flexibility/individuality be more likely encourage them to go ahead with a purchase? Why is Brexit also a factor in lumping options within the two trim levels?
@@MrManBuzz I could believe that. I guess all the RHD markets combined are a fraction of the LHD. Is it not UK only that’s effected?
@@Mac_F87 It's a lot quicker (and thus cheaper) to build a bunch of cars to the same spec than it is to build them each with their own unique spec.
What I like about it is that it doesn't have the Taycan's unattractive front-end and is more discreet. A number of non-car-enthusiasts thought I'd bought a new A5, so maybe it's less likely to be keyed.
Regarding phone storage, I wondered how people on the e-Tron forums could say that their phones fitted in the armrest compartment, when my modest OnePlus 6 was too long to fit vertically or horizontally.
Checking it out in daylight from the passenger seat, there's a slot at the front of the compartment next to the vertical charging pad. So you can slot your phone in, front first; and poke the top through that slot. It will fit, even if it's connected to a charging cable... But you'll need to slug it out if the Mrs wants to put her phone in there at the same time as yours, there's only one slot.
Thankyou for an exceptional review.
Really great review. The technical challenges of chargers is surprisingly intricate. The reason Tesla chargers just work, and the reason why their rollout to other mfrs is piecemeal is one and the same: whether the same people have oversight of both sides of the system... or not.
I guess Audi's marketing department didn't look in the dictionary for what étron means in French.
How about this : The car is an E-Tron, and the colour is étron.
Fascinating!!! Thanks!!!
Love the styling like the color hate the wheels. Thanks James!
I was tempted by the Audi. Being in the US we have, I think, better charging but often longer distances between chargers. We also have higher speed limits and higher actual traffic speed on major roads. In the end I bought a Lucid Air GT. The incredible range sealed the deal, but the extra 200hp didn't hurt.
The Lucid will be coming to the UK, should start showing up in Germany before the end of the year. I look forward to you getting a crack at one. The handling is amazing for a vehicle of that weight. It has been thrilling to attack twisty mountain roads with that car.
£135k sir. What colour would you like it in? Metallic dysentery please.
7:10
Jay's music taste matches his fashion taste...aka fucking abysmal 🤣
Dijon Mustard coloured Audi, Lovely car & great tech , Love the Shirt James !
The Porsche owner anecdote is so... True. Lots of people cling to those 'universal truths' and repeat them verbatim as a justification for the purchase option. But, in the end, its far from the case. I chuckled when you made that face, James. I see myself doing the same... 😂
When you were in primary school and you first tried to mix colours and you used ALL of them? that's the color you got!
It is isn't it!
You know that a car has a good design when it looks good even in poop color.
I don’t get why manufacturers leave money on the table in the U.K., by denying us access to the full options list.
That's the German way. Charge for every option
Great content once again.
great car. that fact it's an EV automatically would make it my choice over any RS6. not sure about eh army green colour on this e-tron though. thanks James. great review as always
I loved the review, the witty remarks, and of course the shirt - right up to the part where you mentioned 'wing' mirrors.... I thought motoring journalists would have realised by now that they were extinct from around 1975 - almost half a century ago !!
I know, it's an anachronism but what people here still call em
Jay - have been watching since your genesis. At around 16:25 you do something entirely unheard of: You laugh. It is a MARVELOUS laugh. You made my day.
It has been known to happen
"Tactical Green" , the sort of colour we used to see on Allegros etc !!
My 70-year old Italian car is an exact colour match for this Audi - the Italians called it Marronne, or Brown!
Totally crazy prices.. I don't think they'll sell many, even including those well heeled persons who could afford to buy one
No no no good sir, I do agree with you indeed when it comes to Audi and their specs. I was looking a year ago for an A1, for the wife and it absolutely shocked me.
I would be demanding the same trim options for that price.
Audi like using "Tactical Green" for their press cars, perhaps they reason that theft will be less of an issue 😉
Last summer there was an identical one but for a 21 plate parked outside my in laws house in the Cotswolds, I then saw the reg No in a few online videos and mag articles.
These were exposed on the audi launch event in North Scotland, poor range and nowhere to charge them except back at the hotel base.
I see it's wearing the appropriate colour for the French market.
Just checked out the Sebastian Bohm version of Blue Monday, it's bloody awful !!!
Try the version from Dance Cult, featuring Stahsi
I tend to both agree and disagree about the power on EVs. I disagree about the safety. The "danger" in traditional fast cars comes in 2 parts: The power overwhelming the grip and spitting the car off the road, and the car simply arriving at corners/hazards/etc faster than the driver expects. I would posit that the first is the cause of most accidents, and it is totally eradicated with EV traction and stability control and smooth (non peaky) power delivery. So a 400-600HP EV in the hands of a toyota driver is actually not so dangerous.
I agree about the power being unnecessary. The novelty of 0-60mph in 4 secs might not wear off so fast on the driver, but it does wear off very fast on your family cos they all get sick. I drive my Model 3 in "Chill" mode almost all the time cos it's smoother, and it still picks up more than fast enough from 60 mph to easily overtake slower traffic. I would be perfectly happy to have the car with 250HP rather than 400.
I can speak from personal experience that the traction control on the Model 3 steps in very keenly to keep things under control. Electric motors can respond faster than ABS or any combusion engine, you have to try really hard to unsettle it.
IMO, I can see why people wouldn't want or need the extra power, but I don't think it causes problems _having_ that extra power available. With combustion engines, you have to worry about power curves, especially if the power has been achieved by slapping a couple huge turbochargers onto the engine, so it's either sluggish or a rocket with little in between. With an EV, power delivery can be totally linear and easily controlled.
I saw an e-Tron GT in Tactical Green during my visit to Singapore 3 weeks ago.
I don't like Tactical Green. If you see this colour in your baby crib you should contact your pediatrician immediately.
The design itself, however, I really like. Kinda hard to choose between e-Tron GT and Taycan.
Always though the same about tactical green until I saw one of these in the flesh. I thought it looked epic..
Still have an RS6, miles better looking. Also like you said seems like Audi is ripping off the UK market, its not value for money at all compared to an RS6
True amazing
Tactical Green? In WW2 they called it Olive Drab if I'm not mistaken.
Great review as usual. Such a ghastly colour. It disappeared in the drive bys in the country scenery.
Here in Germany these are super popular and there is not a Day i don't see one on the Autobahn or in the City of Frankfurt when i drive there.
I always wonder why People pick it over other EVs, it's a beautiful Car but the Price is why i wonder.
I guess it's Audi Customers just sticking to their Brand of Choice, Brand Loyalty is really big here, which is also why you see a ton of Mercedes, BMW and VW EVs here and less Teslas by the Day
Bought by companies, not individuals.
I often see a silver one of these driving around. Great precense
Bit early but i must say great looking car.
Brilliant!!!
ionity is very reasonable when you have the porsche charge card for instance.
Always found that Audi lead the field in how much can we add to the bottom line in extras.
At least it is not an SUV. Still, to know one gets 10000€ of my tax money when buying a 10000€ electric car in Germany makes my skin crawl.
efficiency mode de-couples the rear motor to become FWD and contactless payment for charging has become law, all chargers must be compliant by Nov 2024
basiclly Audi should be a car brand one day where there are no trim lvls or options , u just go in, ask a model of the car and u get EVERYTHING there possible is to put in on the car, u do get an option of not having something u dislike for example the color of stichings or what ever.
Fascinating how car prices have increased exponentially in recent years - most people buy new cars on a monthly budget and therefore, the ticket price has little or no bearing on the matter.
Seems the UA-camrs are all pushing the EV’s of stratospheric cost and operation, nice car but there must be a line where the additional options, specs, etc., doesn’t justify that cost… How about a series to compare “normal” EV’s or even used ones?….
You didn't see my recent EV piece did you?
I also have featured a number of cheaper EVs - FIAT 500, KIA E Niro, Soul etc
The iPhone 15 pro max fits perfectly in the charger, just lay it horizontal, slide it in the holder then forward into the pocket.
Should it not come as RS6 version as well, people NEED wagons. We're just not allowed to have EV ones.
I think the argument would be that or an RS7 for me same shape and when remapped and tuned similar performance
That Midlands ‘cause it’s carbon fibre’ pronunciation had me in stitches😂
Thought it sounded more Yorkshire...
He'd recently moved
@@JayEmmOnCars definitely more Sheffield or Doncaster than Walsall or Wolverhampton.
Who's that laughing in the background? It's the Audi Accountancy team selling another UK spec car.
Jay I'd love to see you review a Tesla Model X!
Been waiting for this review, glad Audi loaned you one in the end. You can get an RS ETron GT with a panoramic roof in base spec i.e. not carbon / carbon black or Vorsprung trim. The black badging, it may just have been my dealer but my car came with silver badges from factory, I asked for the black badges and got them FOC and retrofitted them when I had it PPF'ed. Also specced mine with interior carbon inlays, extended leather pack and HUD so all I'm missing over a Vorsprung is different wheel design, massage front seats and heated rear seats, contrast stitching, night vision, some assistance systems, exterior and door sill carbon (which makes no weight difference on a 2.3 ton car) and 360 cameras, the cameras being the only thing I feel I missed out on. But I did get the pan roof which significantly lifts the rear and front interior.
I chose mine over a Taycan Turbo as whilst options are good and you are right in saying Audi shouldn't limit them to 3 or 4 pre selected trim levels, to spec an equivalent eTron GT is way less than a Porsche [cheapest Taycan is a 2S (RWD), eTron GT's are all AWD]. Also I like buttons, Taycan have a crap second screen to control not only temperature but you have to use the touch screen to point the direction the vents blow air! Pretty sure when driving, focus should be on the road, not on a screen...
Looks are subjective, I am biased of course in saying the Audi looks better in GT form.
Whilst Efficiency mode does limit your speed to 85mph it does also disengage the front motor and means the car only uses the highest of the 2 gears on the rear motor, it'll never use 1st gear which comfort and dynamic will.
Downsides, Audi Pre-Sense is too eager, having come from an RS7 I too struggle without not having 360 cameras now and I purposely specced HUD on mine which does also show you nav information, directions and warnings as you commented on. One thing I wish I had specced was the ceramics, had them on my RS7, got carbid discs now and they're OK but not always the most reassuring. Build quality has ben good and it hasn't suffered from the issues your press car had in terms of fit and rattles but I understand it is a mixed bag in the owners forums.
I didn't buy it as a Tesla rival, I bought it as a replacement for an RS7 and in most respects it is equal if not better, certainly better in ride; only at Autobahn speeds is the RS7 quicker. It isn't the future, its an interesting alternative and I am one of those that has one as a company car so the cost of this vs. an RS6/7, its less than half the cost on a monthly lease. And then there is fuelling, yes it won't go as far on a charge (probably about half the range) however its costs a lot less. Last fill on the RS7 in February 2022 was £130, to charge the RS eTron GT even now from 10% to 100% on Ionity 250kWh rapid chargers is around £33. Plus I don't have oil/ filter/ plug changes to contend with anymore, no £500+ VED once a year.
It's a shame that Audi press didn't give you the ETron Charging Service card, so via an RFID card or App you can access somewhere in the region of 80% of UK public chargers at a discounted rate.
I agree that as of October pricing has become ridiculous, on 50kWh fast chargers you can pay anything between 28p and £1 per kilowatt depending on which you use which is scandalous.
It's a great Audi, arguably one of their best daily driving and handling and monstrously quick at any time, no need to be in the right mode / gear / rev range, just depress the right pedal and it goes. Great that you enjoyed it.
High praise
The RS6 distances itself from much cheaper I.C.E. Products with ease. I think that equally expensive E.V.s such as this E-Tron GT doesn’t. It seems to me pretty obvious where the cost of an RS6 goes. Not so with really expensive E.V.s
I swapped my RS7 for a GT. Don't regret it at all.
I think when it comes to spec everyone here is so worried about resale value that they don't want to take risks
A benefit of being in my mid-70s is that I'll die before having to buy an electric vehicle. On the other hand knowing I'll be dead in 15 years dampens my enthusiasm just a bit.
I think the 2 best looking EVs to date are this, and that new Kia one. yea I said a kia is good looking, man I must be old. But..... Id never part with my hard earnt cash for an EV unless it actually paid me lol
Kia and Hyundai are making some really nice looking cars these days
In South Africa we call it "Kapoen" colour. And what a perfect match. Not something I would want to be seen in.
They should make a Audi RS E-Tron GT Avant.
Man I was pretty impressed by the looks and my enthusiasm was dashed against the rocky shore when I looked at that interior.
Boring Germanic black everywhere. No sort of color accents to bring color. Boring deisgn. Plastic buttons, glossy black. Its a very cheap looking let down. Even if the materials are nice it's very meh to look at.
I've noticed other Audi models having pretty bad build quality like you show in this one by other reviewers.
In first world countries i can see how EVs can work . Here in South Africa , i do not see it working any time soon . First off in the UK there are almost 35000 charging stations , here in South Africa there are 80 (I do not mean 80k but eight zero.) that in a country roughly 5 times the size of the UK. More than that , the power currently generated in this country is not enough to supply power to the whole country 24/7 so we have something called Loadshedding there our power is cut off for a few hours a day (at the moment we are in stage 2 witch means we are without electricity for 4 hours a day) and i do not see that changing any time soon !
Get to 250k!!! So close!!!
Just face it mate. When Bentley make a car like that with a nicer interior, you're not going to have number to ring. You'll downloading be an app to have the privlige to spec one. ;-)
£135k for poor build quality, I would look elsewhere. *if I was spending that amount of money on a car!
I'm changing jobs in December. Car scheme available. A standard taycan big batt just cheaper than a regular gt but I think that's equivalent to a 4S. Hmm, where's the number for the taxman
I love the E-Tron, but the Porsche Taycan is my go to EV supercar, at the moment.
I like the colour, but don’t love it! It’s not a practical proposition for me though, as I have no drive and don’t have time to muck about charging during the day. I’ll keep my RS6 thanks, which has the HUD, 360 cakes and panroof and also eats miles like a GT car should. I recently drove 700 miles in a day going on holiday to France and stopped twice for a break and a fill up, arrived feeling pretty good!
You chose the 360 cakes, yummy! 🎂🎂🎂
I have a bigger problem with that rim design🤮🤮🤮
Now compare that AC controls to 2017 A5, you would think that A5 is double the price. Audi is going backwards
I know two Company Directors driving two of these. These are their second electric Audis after a series of diesel. They went EV because of undeniable tax advantages. The driving costs are not important for them. Their view: nice looking, great performance, real range about 210 miles but not worth the price at well over £1000/month on lease. They both believe their previous diesels were a better package.
Ehh I don't agree on the volume swirling thing. I like to tinker with my volume and you can't tell how much you'll change the volume by like you can with a knob.
The wagon version of this would be a winner
Tactical Green and 2.5t...would make an ideal Russian tank flattener if dropped from an enormous drone, but unfortunately costs twice as much as a Javelin shoulder launched missile! Nice looking car, and good to get a longer term view of an EV, but I'm still not sold.
As someone who has an EV in their household, is a gimmick more than anything. Nothing useful and 10x worse for the climate than a diesel. Yes the instantaneous speed climb and quietness whilst doing so is something else but thats about it.