What do YOU think about William Wallace and the NEW Smite Talent Tree? 🤔 Cav mains in shambles rn 😭😂 Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content! 🥳🥳
I think its disappointing to hate on cav mains. More than anything for being the person advocating for a slower power creep, this doesnt bode well as it forces us into a meta where we only see inf. This isnt good for the health of the community. 3 inf march meta. Inf garrison meta. Inf rally meta.
Omniarch with the smite tree are you now happy you are a infantry player? I run 3 infantry in open field. That 45 rage reduction is extremely powerful. I believe him and Lui Che may be the best single target damage and AOE combo in the game. Gotta max him. I wonder if that rage reduction in the smite tree will work with Belisaurius Prime rage reduction and rage requirement addition
I personally think William Lui che is the best pair. Why not gorgo? Because of the smite tree. It says whenever it deals smite all troops hit losse rage. Which instead of one troop means 5 with lui.
I have a question for you I have saved up a decent amount of golden head and I was wondering if I should invest them into Nevsky, Scipio prime or save them for new commanders in case they become the new meta.
@@OmniarchOfficial it based on the scenario though if you want to hold enemy or drain them i think liu alex still the best because of proc but if you want to win field wallace liu is better (call him wallace to different from william cav 😂)
I have only invested in Cavs and archers this far. In inf i only have scipio at 5311. Should i stop investing in him? And get William and lui? Or get scipio and lui? What should i do this far?
@@OmniarchOfficial well i want to be lol, i have 820 gh for now & exp liu (and hopefully the hardest dilemma in my life😂 )cuz i can get a good spot in mge tho
so if you're running multiple cav commanders what do you do? William, Saladin, HQ all have slow down. Braveheart will be every where on the field. If you're feeling suicidal and run HQ/ Beli, you'll increase Braveheart's skill cycle to 10 turns so his 40% damage boost effects both primary and secondary commanders active skill... Is HQ still worth investing in? and what about Beli, I know some were touting him as an Ark carrier in Aoo, but wouldn't William being immune to slow down will be better? Will you even be able to win Aoo without Braveheart removing slowdown?
I like him, it's new, innovative (bcos of the new talent tree) very strong but not broken, and kinda squishy, which is a weak point I mean, I'm totally fine with him. Also I think LC is stronger yes, his expertise is crazy, that 25% extra basic attack is by far the strongest skill in the GAME. I was curious to see how good he is with Alexander... I would love to have 2 shields... but it's kinda expensive, since we need to expertise him
Seems like a good pair with Alex? Mighty shield, buffing, instant proc, crazy march speed? Kinda amplifies lots of support and high damage? Scipio/LC WW/Alex
In my opinion,if your pair with liu Che is scipio prime,then you should go ahead and expertise him, but if your pair is Alex or charles,then you should save for wallace
Guys, lets give minute of silence for cav players now!!! 😂 It was worth it to listen and suffer in silence this entire time and listen to "cavs rulz"" lol
If there is a skill like 50% chance and cooldown 5 sec then if we dont get 50% chance then will it go to cooldown or if skill is proc then go to cooldown??
Here's the problem talent trees do not work on secondary commanders unless Lilith changes the talent tree with liu Chi or am I wrong on that information
I sorta called it with Double Dub, i replied to a comment on a previous video that i would say William Wallace if it weren't for the spurs he has on. But i guess the spurs were bait
Doesnt matter, even when he is better. Scipio will be good for the next 5 years. Im still using guan and artemisia. Dont get stressed out @@nellopizzetti3748
Here are my thoughts on the smite dmg and normal dmg increase on his 4th skill: I think the game wants to increase their 'skill dmg' without necessarily increasing their 'all dmg'. If we look at skill dmg commanders they usually give like 20% (ZL, Hermann, Ashurbanipal) or a little higher (Nevsky, Huo, Ysg etc.). I think they wanted to give smite commanders the same opportunity but without making them too overpowered, because just imagine a smite dmg commander boosting his normal dmg by 50% like ysg is boosting his skill dmg. I also appreciate the efforts to not make smite dmg basically the next skill dmg, it would be so boring actually. Smite dmg would be better, since basically every talent tree and many commanders have skill smg reduction but barely any normald dmg or smite dmg reduction. So I think it's good that they're trying to give them a dmg boost to their active skills like skill dmg commanders have, while keeping the 'tradition' of giving normal dmg boosts
Hey Omniarch great reveal video! It would really be nice if before maxing him out when he comes out you try him at 5511 and 5551 to guide people who are still catching up and help them decide how to distribute gold heads. Thanks
IM IN A LOVE HATE RELATION HERE So i wanted a skill damage one to maby make alex lc meta and skippy new guy Why because i have 5551 skippy and exp lc i wanted a archer march next and just barely maxed lc so im broke im wondering if i should go into infantry for william lol would be great
i think the game is going like: smite damage will be the weakness of cavs and poison of archers will be the weakness of infa. cavs just will do massive damage in less time in a single target and run to escape.
God I’m hyped. Sad I might have to bench my scipio tho. If William Wallace with Liu Che isnt toooo insane then I might keep scipio/Liu and start working on another march cause I’m currently only one march atm
I guess they've broken up 'normal damage bonus' and 'smite damage bonus' so someone bringing a skill damage commander as secondary is still getting some benefit...
So with this skill tree, I assume that LC would then strip five targets for 45 rage with his skill. Does this make Alex not a good investment for f2p anymore?
it would be good if they let us to have one permanent artifact even outside of kvk. And yea, this com looks very string but scipio p gona be prob better for that aoe
Great commander. But I’m little disappointed. Lilith brings Alex back to pair LC and next cycle removes him back to bench. The only pair for this new guy is LC.
I was pretty close with saying it was probably a Scottish Anglo Saksen like Robert 1 the Bruce given his outfit 😂 Guess U have to walk back on your words saying Beli and the other new gen commanders would be powered down equally, and cavalry players had no reason to feel butthurt with him. William looks really amazing, especially with the new smite tree.. 3360 active skill every 2 cycles is insane...
I honestly think that william with gorgo will outplay william liu. William has everything that gorgo was missing. Im gonna plan to use gorgo william and liu scipio
What do YOU think about William Wallace and the NEW Smite Talent Tree? 🤔 Cav mains in shambles rn 😭😂 Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content! 🥳🥳
All i can say is that as a cav main, we are fcked. Inf and archers owning the field heavy rn.
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I think its disappointing to hate on cav mains. More than anything for being the person advocating for a slower power creep, this doesnt bode well as it forces us into a meta where we only see inf. This isnt good for the health of the community. 3 inf march meta. Inf garrison meta. Inf rally meta.
I think that they may take our lives, but they will NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM
Omniarch with the smite tree are you now happy you are a infantry player? I run 3 infantry in open field. That 45 rage reduction is extremely powerful. I believe him and Lui Che may be the best single target damage and AOE combo in the game. Gotta max him. I wonder if that rage reduction in the smite tree will work with Belisaurius Prime rage reduction and rage requirement addition
Infantry gang we up
We UP up! 🔥🔥
We up baby!
WE ARE UP UP UP! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
THEY MAY TAKE OUR MARCH SPEED, BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR SMITE DAMAGE
HELL YEA
@@CaptainLegionary We got the march speed now 😂
William Liu che looks like the nevsky-joan counterpart for infantry. So much synergy
Soooo insane
@@OmniarchOfficialThat talent though, -45 rage for any target hit by smite damage? Shit AoE smite damage is gonna COOK
Infantry Users are happy right now
We're LIT 🔥
@@OmniarchOfficial Hey do i even need him? Liu/Alex and Guan/Scipi. I think I'm better off focusing on a cav combo? I already have Boudicca/Zhuge.
Oh yes 😅🎉
😎😎😎
@@nelvinabrenica1244 yes my friend
As a cav main that commander is TOO DAMN BROKEN BRO.
LOL
Broken is scipio nev zhuge joan liu realese wallace is pretty mid. He has sun tzu lvl stats
WHO MADE BELLI PRIME... HE IS NO WHERE NEAR THIS INF COMMANDER
LMAOOO CAV MAINS MAD
Probably transferred to Call of Dragons team🤣
@@OmniarchOfficial Really dissapointed in such a low IQ reaction...
Wanna trade beli for sargon?
@@Hephysswanna trade bertrand for sargon?
William wallace is crazy cracked
That talent tree thoooooo
@@OmniarchOfficialbasically any AoE smite damage is actually OP
That bogen cun* has a weird name.
A nice gift for my Scottish friends coming home from losing in the football. 😂
😂
Ahahahaha!
Sz prime : yes i am gathering now hahahha
I personally think William Lui che is the best pair. Why not gorgo? Because of the smite tree. It says whenever it deals smite all troops hit losse rage. Which instead of one troop means 5 with lui.
For sure!
Yup, makes any type of AoE smite damage be absolutely NUTS
Love your vids man! I started ROK during the pandemic and found your channel. Hope your channel keeps growing through the roof! ❤
same . pandemic days
Yes 👏 I do 2👍
Thank you bro!! Cheers! I appreciate the kind words :)
I have a question for you I have saved up a decent amount of golden head and I was wondering if I should invest them into Nevsky, Scipio prime or save them for new commanders in case they become the new meta.
That was quick lol! Was wondering when the next vid about the new commander will drop.
You already KNOW!
Hi 👋 great content as always. What best pairing with WW for two March if I have only lc Scipio and Alex for now ?
Hard to say without testing first.
This low-key feels like a Alexander The Great prime haha 😂
Yeah but missing the instant proc that makes him so good :(
@@OmniarchOfficial but its provided in the active skill. And the expertise has the same factor but in mighty shields
@@OmniarchOfficial it based on the scenario though if you want to hold enemy or drain them i think liu alex still the best because of proc but if you want to win field wallace liu is better (call him wallace to different from william cav 😂)
@@OmniarchOfficial bro do you remember when i told you that there’s no more prime commander before couple of weeks and you thought that im kidding 😂😂😂
I have only invested in Cavs and archers this far. In inf i only have scipio at 5311. Should i stop investing in him? And get William and lui? Or get scipio and lui? What should i do this far?
I'd wait for in game test results
INF GANG WE UP BABY🦅🦅
BIG UPPPP
Should I still Max gorgo? Cuz she is good for Open field AND garr
Only if you garrison structures
Naah
I would not max Gorgo unless you're a garrison player, no need anymore
@@OmniarchOfficial well i want to be lol, i have 820 gh for now & exp liu (and hopefully the hardest dilemma in my life😂 )cuz i can get a good spot in mge tho
This guy with lc is literally gonna destroy essentially any other march 💀it’s gonna be crazy strong
Kinda, ww is good but not crazy. Lc is doing the heavy work, but the talent tree looks amazing
@@manuelvelasco2761 yea on his own he’s not extremely good, but paired with lc, the buffs just stack up insanely
Tbh I think LC is much better but the smite tree is gonna be great
@@OmniarchOfficialpairing them together will just be 👌
Other infa dont have smite was carried by lc but this guy pairs so op@@manuelvelasco2761
Which two infantry marches do you now advise? 1.Liuche+Walles. 2. Martel+Scipio, norm?? I have don't Guan, Alex, Gorgo
Imagine this guy with gorgo and his shield stacks with Alex's team shield.
so if you're running multiple cav commanders what do you do? William, Saladin, HQ all have slow down. Braveheart will be every where on the field. If you're feeling suicidal and run HQ/ Beli, you'll increase Braveheart's skill cycle to 10 turns so his 40% damage boost effects both primary and secondary commanders active skill... Is HQ still worth investing in? and what about Beli, I know some were touting him as an Ark carrier in Aoo, but wouldn't William being immune to slow down will be better? Will you even be able to win Aoo without Braveheart removing slowdown?
I Just enter kvk 3 lk, should leave CPrime and focus Liu Che and Willian?
I don’t know
😅
I like him, it's new, innovative (bcos of the new talent tree)
very strong but not broken, and kinda squishy, which is a weak point
I mean, I'm totally fine with him. Also I think LC is stronger yes, his expertise is crazy, that 25% extra basic attack is by far the strongest skill in the GAME.
I was curious to see how good he is with Alexander... I would love to have 2 shields... but it's kinda expensive, since we need to expertise him
Seems like a good pair with Alex? Mighty shield, buffing, instant proc, crazy march speed? Kinda amplifies lots of support and high damage? Scipio/LC WW/Alex
Omniarch, I have my liu che at 5551 and I have the sculptures to expertise him. Should I do that or keep the sculptures for Wallace?
In my opinion,if your pair with liu Che is scipio prime,then you should go ahead and expertise him, but if your pair is Alex or charles,then you should save for wallace
so you're telling me cavs got a glorified farm killer with mobility tree and infantry get muthaeffin BRAVEHEART?
Cav last roman general
Infantry barbarian using skirt😅
Guys, lets give minute of silence for cav players now!!! 😂
It was worth it to listen and suffer in silence this entire time and listen to "cavs rulz"" lol
Choice gorgo or Wallace for pairing with liu che???
Probably Wallace but gotta see tests
If there is a skill like 50% chance and cooldown 5 sec then if we dont get 50% chance then will it go to cooldown or if skill is proc then go to cooldown??
Only goes into cooldown if the skill is activated
Ok thanks a lot @@OmniarchOfficial
@@OmniarchOfficial then even if we pair liu che as secondary we can have chance to get 40% damage but its very low chance
If I had to invest would it be Liu Che or WILLIAM WALLACE?
You’re always first with new information. Very nice. Thanks
I try! Thanks for watching! :)
Sir Omniarch I looking forward to your comparison between all the Liu Che pairings once WW comes out 🙏🙏
Thanks for a great video. Any idea when he is expected to get released?
2-4 weeks I bet
Here's the problem talent trees do not work on secondary commanders unless Lilith changes the talent tree with liu Chi or am I wrong on that information
I wonder if they gonna make prime Sun Tzu
I sorta called it with Double Dub, i replied to a comment on a previous video that i would say William Wallace if it weren't for the spurs he has on. But i guess the spurs were bait
I can already see William LC destroying cav on open field
That’s will be my pleasure ✌🏻😂
His active skill behaves like Harold's active in that its normally a single target, but auto switches to aoe goodness when being targeted.
Bro I’m so happy about this update! They knew Elden Ring DLC was released so they had to go hard in the paint 😂
Thanks for the fast review, appreciate 🙏
Thanks for watching! :)
WALLACE!!!!!!!!! ok right great I want Robin Hood!!!!
Sameeee but still Wallace is sick!
He will be next archer commander..😂
Is this commander beyter pr scipio prime?
Won't know until tests come out!
Thanks omniarch, and as a f2p player i already spent a lot in scipio i hope this won't be meta😅. But let's see man🧐
Doesnt matter, even when he is better. Scipio will be good for the next 5 years. Im still using guan and artemisia. Dont get stressed out @@nellopizzetti3748
Can you use him unmaxed?
Here are my thoughts on the smite dmg and normal dmg increase on his 4th skill: I think the game wants to increase their 'skill dmg' without necessarily increasing their 'all dmg'. If we look at skill dmg commanders they usually give like 20% (ZL, Hermann, Ashurbanipal) or a little higher (Nevsky, Huo, Ysg etc.). I think they wanted to give smite commanders the same opportunity but without making them too overpowered, because just imagine a smite dmg commander boosting his normal dmg by 50% like ysg is boosting his skill dmg. I also appreciate the efforts to not make smite dmg basically the next skill dmg, it would be so boring actually. Smite dmg would be better, since basically every talent tree and many commanders have skill smg reduction but barely any normald dmg or smite dmg reduction. So I think it's good that they're trying to give them a dmg boost to their active skills like skill dmg commanders have, while keeping the 'tradition' of giving normal dmg boosts
Hey Omniarch great reveal video!
It would really be nice if before maxing him out when he comes out you try him at 5511 and 5551 to guide people who are still catching up and help them decide how to distribute gold heads.
Thanks
The Cavs got no MOJO.
When the commander will be released?
Probably next wheel!
IM IN A LOVE HATE RELATION HERE
So i wanted a skill damage one to maby make alex lc meta and skippy new guy
Why because i have 5551 skippy and exp lc i wanted a archer march next and just barely maxed lc so im broke im wondering if i should go into infantry for william lol would be great
As someone with Scottish heritage, this makes me so excited!
It’s about time!
@@OmniarchOfficial Agreed!
Which formation is best for him?
i think the game is going like: smite damage will be the weakness of cavs and poison of archers will be the weakness of infa. cavs just will do massive damage in less time in a single target and run to escape.
NEW INF LOOKIN FIREEE
Extremely fire
His head to body ratio is crazy also why do the commander's legs look so thin
Welcome to the ROK art style hahahaha
Welcome to ROK man, legday is not importat, whats more important is we have smite dmg
Kekeke u ask a gud question
@@scrappycocoa4531 , HAHAHA alright then
@@OmniarchOfficial , I'm still amazed how you guys not care about it HAHAHA
God I’m hyped. Sad I might have to bench my scipio tho. If William Wallace with Liu Che isnt toooo insane then I might keep scipio/Liu and start working on another march cause I’m currently only one march atm
I think it would be awesome if they made the “rally” talent tree for upcoming rally commanders 🎉
It will be . when maybe in September or 2025
At last a Scottish commander. I'm pleased that they didn't make him look like Mel Gibson
when that commander release?
When is this commander will be released?
Wait so William primary or secondary to Che
Cav mains in shambles
I guess they've broken up 'normal damage bonus' and 'smite damage bonus' so someone bringing a skill damage commander as secondary is still getting some benefit...
So with this skill tree, I assume that LC would then strip five targets for 45 rage with his skill. Does this make Alex not a good investment for f2p anymore?
Would this still make Scipio Prime in meta
This is insanely perfect commander, i dont know what to say if any inf player still complaining about this commander
TBH his nice commander but not in level lu and zang
Absolutely with liu 🔥 1st march
For sure!
Gonna max him first day 🙌
as a new player saving heads for Alex/LC, this is dissapointing but also amazing
This new commander looks insane, I'm excited to make my new infantry 3 marches configuration, some recommendations will be appreciated! 😂
Would you consider this more power creep?
No at all he is great if you have two inf marches
it would be good if they let us to have one permanent artifact even outside of kvk. And yea, this com looks very string but scipio p gona be prob better for that aoe
I need cav with Smite too. It is too tied to just inf right now
Is William Wallace a mge or wheel cammander?
field meta slightly changing.. much better after 2 boring cycle commander
Very exciting stuff
Approximately when will this commander be available in-game?
After Archer mge i would expect
Infantry is back on the menu❤
Is this a wheel or a MGE?
INFANTRY ARE UP BOYS
WE MADE IT THRU THE STRUGGLE 😭
WW and Liu gonna be the new meta in all of rally Open fields garrison.
Excellent explanation as usual 😎 .. I don’t know how normal damage is not smite damage anymore 🙃
Thanks! :)
This is great, i hope they'll add the smite tree to all smite commanders.
This opens the doors for Ranged with Smite tree😶🌫
Perhaps 👀👀
@@OmniarchOfficial if they go back(i doubt) and make Lc and Gorgo smite, will be fair to make the 2 smite ranged with the tree too😂
Wanted will for years. Soo happy
Great commander. But I’m little disappointed. Lilith brings Alex back to pair LC and next cycle removes him back to bench.
The only pair for this new guy is LC.
WW looks SICK.
IF LC and Gorgo get Smite trees it will be insane (good).
gorgo/william
Me watching who's KvK 1:
LOL You'll get there!
I dont see why this couldn't garrison
Or rally!
So museum gets stuff for Inf, a new broken Inf commander. Archers get one of the best new commanders aswell and Cav only get Beli 😭
This will finally put my Guan on the bench.
This is the start of death of cav😂next archer cycle will finish the job
I was pretty close with saying it was probably a Scottish Anglo Saksen like Robert 1 the Bruce given his outfit 😂
Guess U have to walk back on your words saying Beli and the other new gen commanders would be powered down equally, and cavalry players had no reason to feel butthurt with him.
William looks really amazing, especially with the new smite tree.. 3360 active skill every 2 cycles is insane...
So we still get new commander for the civ coming this summer! Nice
I honestly think that william with gorgo will outplay william liu. William has everything that gorgo was missing. Im gonna plan to use gorgo william and liu scipio
I could argue with double aoe march than gorgo whos single skill. Liu also is 5target🤫
Also liuche exp skill is broken enough that u dont need horn anymore
I’m excited to see how he works with Gorgo
3 infantry marches for the win! But I don’t have 3rd equipment set 😢
Instant Max. Thanks for the video!
Cav mains punchin air rn 😂
Benching my nevs Joan there is no way they can survive open field now 😂😂
Saladin can received a new relic in the museum??
My gold heads are ready for him 😂😂😂