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William Wallace TEST RESULTS Are AVERAGE? Rise of Kingdoms (Prerelease)
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- William Wallace TEST RESULTS Are AVERAGE? Rise of Kingdoms (Prerelease)
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Chapters:
0:00 William Wallace Prerelease Test
1:28 Smite Talent Tree
4:06 Testing Parameters
5:55 Test Results vs CAVALRY
11:04 Test Results vs INFANTRY
14:33 Test Results vs ARCHERS
17:32 Extra Test Results
22:39 William Wallace PRIMARY Test Results
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I think developers tested Wallace with 20% and took it away. If he had 20% instead of 10% he'd probably dominate the archers
Using horn on Liu Che is a waste as demonstrated in a lot of rage video
Of all the tests why would you miss Scipio Liu vs Scipio Wallace boggles my mind. I think that’d be the one of the first things everyone wants to see
God, stop testing commanders through this already. just wait for them to come out. you'd better fight like you did those useless videos
@hanszel8290 I saw that test on another channel and Wallace / Lui Che destroys it. You noticed as soon as he switched to smite tree even Huo / Belisaurius Prime took L's a bit more. That smite tree is some serious shit. Everyone clamoured over the 40% damage putting Lui Che as prime.
They should have made Wm Wallace look more like Mel Gibson.
LOL
Totally agree
Couldn’t agree more and he should be rally guy and scipio for open field
Like they did with lapu first, where he was actually the Rock? 😂
Would love to know why they changed him
Yes, absolutely
For the scipio/liu vs Liu/ww it’s also good to note that Scipios entire 4th skill doesn’t work against that pair, and scipio/Liu has massive amounts of skill dmg reduction in support tree, which is also useless against Liu/ww
I think I will be sticking with Scipio for the time being. Thanks for all the information and the time you invested on testing WW and making this video bro!
Which one? 🤣
I love that world of warcraft music in the background. Elwynn Forest hit me with nostalgia and gave me goosebumps 🥰
It’s soooo good 🙏🙏
My early feel for this is that if you already have most of the top infantry commanders already, you can skip Wallace. If he was a primary commander that was equal to LC or better, then I would say go for it. But to be forced to fully max Wallace in order for him to replace other decent commanders, that seems like too much investment for the return. Just my two cents...
Yep. If you just entered SOC and haven't maxed Alex, investing in WW is better. But if you already have maxed Alex plus both of his museum buffs, i don't see why you should invest in WW
@@zestfanboy3188what about YSG and ZL ? I have YSG expertised with 2 museum buffs soon will be 3, still not worth investing into ZL ?
@@MrKleju yeah it’s worth. It’s just that you won’t see Archer wheel until kvk 3 is almost over
@@zestfanboy3188 im not talking like kvk3 stuff, Im about to enter my 8th kvk with Scip LC Nev Joan and Boudica YSG. Ive been denying ZL for soo long but I just found out his rage gen is even better than LC with extra attack if you hit multiple targets with ZL (expertise skill gives you 30 rage per target hit)
@@MrKleju Zhuge is game changing. I almost trade 2:1 on avg in field with herman/zhuge. Gorgo/Liu for comparison trades 1.53, herman/zhuge 1.91. Boudica/YSG 1.42. All have 8/8 gold gear all iconic with 3 crits.
I don't think William will be as broken as Liu Che!
Definitely not unless the smite tree is broken
@@OmniarchOfficialthe rally is another story
This cicle is decent/good lapu is meh good for whales citys.
Belli people trashed him he is pretty decent outside the mobility tree he does fine.
Wallace mid/decent gonna say equal powercreep like belli. P
We can t have broken commanders all the time
What about scipio prime?
@@Bearforce2 I still prefer Scipio Prime over WW if it is murderball fight
As a cav main I think it’s completely fair infantry gets “stronger” new commanders then cavs. We got it good as it is, we don’t need to be god tier every kvk
Cavs are very good
Infantry and archery are very gud too they have more aoe
@@user-gi1sm5fi2tthat’s literally what the comment said.. it said inf is better than cav😂
Yea but inf and archers are better at the moment @Simon-22
nothing beats cava mobility, whale use 7 march cava for hit and run, no one stops them
I like the Warcraft music in the background. It’s a nice touch.
Saving my heads for new archer commanders 🙈
I said the same thing lol
saving for next rotation of cavs smh
@@Meruemmmmmm Beli Prime 2.0 incoming 😂🙈 (just kidding)
17:06 NICE lmao
Best duelling pair is actually Babur Gajah btw
lol yeah you're right mr siege
@@Mr.sebas08 of course I’m the only one that’s tried it though haha
Your content is insane. Thanks bro!
Thank you! 😁
Sick video bro. Keep it up. Loving the fresh haircut too
Yo Omni thanks for the video and the info !
Im close to expertise Liu Che and the pairing with William looks great if the smite tree is actually that good, I'm gonna keep my Liu Che Alex for now though, it works great still and perform really well on field , I'm only running 1 inf army so I think its enough for now , thanks for the video again , much appreciated man!
Maybe testing without the horn or ring would be a better control in these experiments.
For the 1st time in a long time. Im getting excited about ROK again. Lots of commander changes and updates. And it looks like the employees at Lillith are actually starting to listen to the people who play the game. That by itself is huge. The next few months will be very telling. Seems like there is a chance for things to start getting balanced out. And that could really change how the games played.
Only time will tell though. Lillith has a horrible track record for making good things bad. Lets hope they are starting to make the needed changes to start correcting all the stuff they screwed up.
Until then. Thanks for all the hard work bringing us the newest latest info. We appreciate you brother.
Thank you! 😁 I’m excited as well!
I guess it's all fairly vague as long as we don't know anything about his possible cooldowns or if Lilith just changes something before they release him...
Wm beeing primary for dueling obviously w. Not only the march got smite talent tree, his 3rd skill will almost always trigger by wm active skill which is more damage factor than LC
5 views in 0 seconds? You’ve fallen off 😔
Such fall off smh
i want to run 2 inf marches. do you think skippy/ww and gorgo/lc will be fine? my guan is 3111 and i would rather not work on him.
yea skip guan n work on ww. for newer player should skip guan entirely unless for older player that invested guan long time ago.
Cant wait until he comes out. Gonna be fire with smite talent tree
Agreed!
Hey Omni, Is Liu Che's expertise did get a change ? 😮
If we have scipio Alex and lui che, what would be the best pair there... I also run nevsky/joan and zhuge/herman...
my man I am subscribed thanks for the content🫡
Thanks!!
Greatest glory + dagger is arguably much better than ring + horn for this march. Like you say you dont need horn with LC expertise, having the greatest glory instead is basically 5% all damage. As for the dagger vs ring, its much more debatable, but probably similar overall
We need new testing now since you know the smite talent tree
Hey Omni I got a question, I’m a returning player and I have just unlocked lui Che, I have a 2111 scipo should who should I max first?
What was most interesting to me about these reports is cav did as good or better than Scipio LC against LC WW. But they also have more aoe so there's that...
Is Guan/Alex still viable and usable??? I don’t mean meta, just usable. If not I may switch my Liu from my Skippy to Alex and use Guan/Scipio. I love Scipio/Liu and I don’t want to separate them 😅
i hope he will be good open field
He will be!
Creo que hasta que no salgan los talentos de Willian esas son las mejores referencias que vamos a tener liu primario Willian secundario. Gracias por el vídeo 👍
That’s why I don’t trust simulator cuz the counter troops type ain’t make that difference in the game I can’t understand how you didn’t notice that 🧐
Next commander release will be cav or archers you think ? I am about to enter kvk 3 and I really don’t know what to invest in as cav main
Archers next
Could you use Martel in the tests in the future ? I see Boudica ysg is not that bad. We always have non meta marches which are still efficient. It's interesting to see the reports as well to decide if it is worth it to invest or not
Totally agree. Wallace lacks stats, and Martel is the perfect stat stick. There will be a lack of AOE tho
Ysg has 1.7k aoe and 50% skill damage buff with even for soc is good.
Now martel is a punching bag. No damage output.
Try pyrus could be decent
Wallace is basically Nevsky for infantry. Wallace/LC will probably be the best singular march in the game imo
Wallace seems more like Huo to me. Doesn’t have good stats like Nevsky and doesn’t have a debuff like Nevsky
Closer to Hou single target no debuff.
But the stats is not even close to hou
Judging by my experience, it's a whole bunch of stuff that must be considered. It's not only about commander's talent tree n skills, it's also about gear (most of f2p have probably iconic gear only), armaments (for almost a year the armaments are bunch of garbage, there's no chance to get armamnet with 3+ % of stats), crystal tech and city skin. Even tho I maxed liu che relatively early, I never got spectacular reports during kvk, which means I spent a tons n tons of rss n speedups to keep up with whales. I guess if one wants to be a badass one needs to swipe the card, Lilith obviously won't allow peasants to rule the game.
Next time try ash/ysg. on field it's the 2nd best archer march.
But also not a dueling march as a double aoe😅
IMO as someone with a maxed Alex and Liu Che. It’s better to just run that and keep Liu primary then invest in WW and losing out on 690 Sculps.
Agree you should not invest
No I actually think If you have alex maxed already you can still use him and get good results .. If you run 2 infantry marches you might invest in WW but if you run only one march stick with leu che / alex
Gorgo is underated in this test. I'm running gorgo liu on the field and the results I get is amazing, more than my other troops incl zhuge hermann🤔
Interesting, I found she performed about as good as Alex but was slower
Probably that the smite tree will make all the difference.
I think so too
One v one testing is a bit biased. Even in game you can't properly gauge the power due to armaments and proc'ed equipment. Still, this is an informative video. Keep it up
Agreed, and thanks!
If it doesnt have the full tree we dont know yet
Of course in-game testing is needed! He'll be great for inf mains regardless
Yep it will be exciting
But the alternative tree is probably pretty accurate so lets see
How many museum relics does Guan Yu have in the simulations?
As a new player that doesnt have any SoC commanders, should I invest in William W first or Liu Che?
@@ricardomartins3791 LC
In my case, I'm going to max WW and replace Alexander, just because I already skipped Huo and Beli, so I have 830 GH, but the commander I wanted to replace was Guan, I was waiting for Sun Tzu prime to pair with Scipio
No more prime commanders coming bro
I still have attachment with my Alex LC and Guan Scipio. So I'll just unlock William. Lol.
My ways to level the playing field….archers should be the only ones with AOE, infantry should be the only ones with instant proc, and cavs have insane speed so people can never run away. Because they have spread out some of these attributes among all troop types, none of them are special.
Nev/joan or HQ/joan going into KvK3? First march
New vid? Let’s get it!
LETS GOOO Pog
Liu che's 1 v 1 rok simulator results were also very average, but we also knew he would accel in field with 5 target smite AOE. I do think WW will perform better than his test results in the field, but not to the level that Liu che performs in the field.
Agreed, LC will be better
Will he tho? He has no AoE nor instant proc.
I think u should focus on the commanders most of us have. Lui Che Alex Scipio2 Zhuge hermann Boudica YSG xy Aeth Attila these are the commanders most of the non MGE lucky guys have. Belly prime huo Ash Gorgo are not skilled up even if summoned. I doubt i would ever replace an AOE guy with single target guy. I am going to wait and see on Wallace and Scipio3
So do you think for 1 inf march scipio liu che is still the way to go?
Yes
Has anything new happened to Saladin
is he like the Joan to my Nevsky for Liu Che? 🥰
I dont want big alex to go lol also have you tried guan scipio vs scipio alex
as an infantry main Im still not sure if I want to invest or not🤔
I'm gonna get him most likely, just wanna see the smite tree!
Wait for Ingame testing and then decide
Itink huo did better as he could possible cycle faster for lower rage requirement before lc 4th skill reduced all damage by 10% making a slightly harder hitting march sometimes and sometimes lc would isntant prop skite and apply the debuff
Archersyndicate did many tests WW/LC vs. all meta marches and WW/LC were destroying all marches.
Yeah I said in the WW primary section of the video that it's good
Smite tree is not out yet. So can t be so reliable
Cav set do only 2 piece, kvk helmet and weapon for cav
I forgot to tell something
We tested Grogo/Liu Che vs Liang/Herman and in average Gorgo/Liu Che won with 30k troops remaining
Now look at simulator! You think Liu Che/Wallace is worst than Gorgo/Liu Che? Wallace actually lost to Liang/Herman with more than 70k troops remaining😂
Very very very unreal
If you read the skills, it seems WW is slightly better in every skill than LC. Which is nuts
But overall + expertise Lc is better 🤷♂️
For me the 10s cooldown in his skills make him just ok commander
i love your haircut
Well looks like I’m staying a cav main after all 😅
Yo how bout a best kvk rankings list 😎
What about Huo/Nevsky?
Can you test Wallace/Gorgo as well?
Hope gorgo/WW in garrison is better than ww primary on the field😈
2 pairing !! It doesnt have huo 30 sec cool down
U crazy omni he's a beast not average
When does he get released?
No release date yet
My theory is Wallace isn't a new "meta" rather a "counter-meta" against all the liu che marches out due to his normal damage taken reductions. These reports just further confirm this for me.
Where's Hou/Nev's Vs liu/William lol
What about William Alex?
What we can do with Gorgo now?? Gorgo/Alex??
Gorgo not suppose going on open field
Its looking like inf wil counter inf
puoi mettere il link del simulatore per i test
è una app a pagamento
I'm sorry bro! It has already been proven that the in-game test results are completely different from this simulator. For example, pay attention to the test of Pyrrhus in the simulator and in-game. That's why I find this video a bit unhelpful
My only question is who will i run in my second inf march now. Ww/LC for one but guan sux now days and ive never heard of anyone running scip with gorgo
Now I run LC/Sarg and Guan/Skippy. If WW that good will pair him with Gorgo. See how that goes as third inf march.
So another big Hollywood name in Wallace that does nothing in the game
Line him up with ceaser for the next museum buff if these reports play out this way
Goose Wing Head 😅
LOL
Greatest Glory?
Huo - Nevsky?
@@darthvader7672 slightly worse than Huo/Beli
He is just as I expected him to be, average. I'm tryna convince a friend of mine to not invest on him coz she alr got 2 maxed inf marches and she is willing to keep using Boudica/Zuge instead of investing on Hermann so she can invest on William Wallace, which I think it's just dumb
Will all come down to in-game results. Too early to tell if they should invest or not
@@OmniarchOfficial Considering she's using Liu/Alex and Guan/Scipio and hasn't got the Zuge/Hermann, I don't think she can justify investing on Wallace over Hermann
Gorgo - Wilian W???
I want to play the game but it's so boring as a free to play i always get destroyed by people who spend money on the game 💔💔
What does proc mean
Damage
@@MoaazAhmad2005 what does it stand for though
Hey bro what about Wallace and Sargon
I was almost certain that I was subscribed... and when I checked... I was... :|
Wallace/ Constantine??? Wallace/Alex???
Is he like the new Sargon? I'm very wary of single target commanders for open field
Nah he’s pretty good. Skills talents damage etc
The problem with sargon that the skill damage doesn’t fired as one unit but it’s divided over time which give his enemies huge edge on him , there are a lots of single target commanders performing very will in open field
But the really down side with this commander the 10s cooldown on his skills !!!
What even is smite damage?
Some type of damage that depends on normal damage
@@MoaazAhmad2005 what does smite damage do though like how does it work
Test 5 vs 1
why France? just wondering.
@@user-bi5yd3vc5p best open field civ for infantry that don’t rely on skill dmg
Huo & nevsky karşı hiç bir şansı yok
Man no disrespect but have you ever tested rok battle simulator compared to reality? I did, has no relevance when it comes to real results. All these tests have 0 value.
So we should invest or not?
Bro didn't watch the video lmao
Unlock and wait for the actual testing to decide is always the safest move
😂
@@OmniarchOfficial yes,I hadn't because I commented on first second of upload,you wouldn't have made this comment if you had seen that👍
👏👏👏👏👏
Did you see the change they made to Liu Che's specialty?
No change, only text change
it couldn't have been a change just in the text! his damage reports have gotten a lot worse
I question the accuracy of the sim. I have and use it, it isnt as accurate as I would want. I suspect he will be better. I was expecting better duel results.
I never expected WW to break field meta. Field meta is 14 commanders, so its hard for 1 commander to break meta. As analyzed in plotos stream, WW lacks AoE and a debuff. That’s a big deal.
I do however expect the rally commander to break the rally meta.
Simulator is much more accurate now than it’s ever been, but duels don’t reflect real world performance
Definitely irrelevant till he comes out in game