Alex's debuff brings benefit to all other marches hitting that target unlike a boost to one's self. Alex is also immune to all damage reduction debuff (ZL's active). If people bench alex, honestly, that's good for me as a cav main haha and probably be helping archers too.
William's active skill if someone is attacking you is 2400+300=2700 smite. Because this is smite, it is more powerful than skill; less smite damage reductions than skill damage reductions out there. William does not need to be surrounded for the 300 to activate. This was shown in Omniarch's clip of william's skill animation.
Yup, triggers on anyone who’s attacking you back, so apologies if I said “surrounded” as that verbiage isn’t entirely correct. Good for duels, less relevant for field
this is a must have, the aoe shield for allies will be huge impact, one people one wallace , can mitigate a lot damage, thus reduce wounded and stand longer in field battle, it is very significant, imagine all people 100+ people using it, if one shield hit can mitigate 1k damage, 100 people using at the same time can mitigate 100k damage at one time, and maybe wallace can active say 10 times shield before he is routed back to city, its so much impact on the field battle
Guan if you can get the relic. But I would wait for testing and field results to arrive first. I wouldn’t recommend putting heads into Guan at this point. We’ll see the new rally commander soon too!
I am passing on Wallace. Single target commanders are not that great. Every infantry commander can pair with Lui Che except Guan. Wallace is like Huo in that Nevsky is already owned making Huo useless. Lui Che and double relic Alex is just so good. Skippy needs a second commander I use Mehmed or Caesar as a second both double relic
I couldn’t agree more actually your impression is the most sensible one 🫡 And i could know why every body loves ww and hate beli basically cuz inf always get garboo commander so when they have mid one that’s big change 😂😂😂
Hola Kane, i'm new here and i just subscribed you. I need your opinion here, i have been hoarding sculptures for LC long before WW came out. But now with the relase of WW, i'm confuse which one should i chose. I have Guan/ Scipio which is my current single march, then i have Alex and YSG expertised and being on the bench for long time. Before WW came out, i planned to get LC, pair him with Alex and run 2 infa marches, then i would continue infesting on ZL to be paired with YSG. Please give me your opinion on the situation that i have here.
Literally what i was thinking, as a guy who uses 2 inf and the strongest cav and archer march I'm not that excited about WW. He just doesn't bring much difference to my murderball. He does more dmg than Alex but that 30% dmg taken debuff from alex expertise is just so strong while ww doesn't bring any debuffs. And he has no aoe. I'm more inclined to get Huo and pair him with YSG or Mehmed which will benefit more bc my hermann P poison. I'll say this, ww talent tree is the strongest if I dare say so myself but that's about it😂
100% right. The best thing about ww are the talents and bcs they will boost liu dmg. Just invested in gorgo, so if he doesnt do that much better, wont replace her
I actually am much more in agreement with you than I have been with most, but I’m curious your thoughts on this. I could see two best marches being LC and Alex or the new rally com, and Scipio with WW. Before LC people were running scipio/tariq, and I feel like WW is just a better Tariq behind Scipio. There is a lot of benefit to Scipio being primary and firing off the health debuff earlier.
Don’t think you bench Guan in the Guan/Scip combo for WW. At least not with the relic releasing. Scip/Tariq was always suboptimal compared to Guan/Scip. We’ll see what the new rally commander holds!
The only thing I think might make him stronger is that 40% boost on LC skill, but still we gotta wait for test. If he is skippable, good for me gonna hoard more GH
hardcore inf man here i have no idea what pairs im going to run i have max gorgo scippy liu guan sargon and tariq dont know what 2 pairs i wanna run might invest in a third march at this point
I disagree with you, but I liked how you broke down each skill in comparison to Beli P to back up your take. I believe that WW with LC or even Gorgo has strong potential precisely because of the boost from the Smite tree. If LC and Gorgo didn’t exist, I would agree with you, but both commanders are already strong, especially LC. Now, adding the damage amplification from WW along with the Smite tree makes it easy to see why infantry players are excited.
We’re all allowed to have our opinions. I think your hypothetical scenario is very valid and has potential! Thanks for your respectful comment ❤ My argument was more so that this commander isn’t strong because of his kit. But strong because of the smite tree and other existing commanders (Liu). Thus making him a suboptimal investment if you already have Gorgo or Alex. I still think he’s top 4!
WW fits intobthe current meta much better. Most people run rwo cav marches and thet are cracked already. Hard to justify brwaking that up unless its for a compete monster.
I am for sure gonna go for WW and Guan is gonna hit that bench. Idc if i need to use Scip/Alex. I aint playing that trash can anymore. Only way i dont go for WW is if mge commander is good Guan replacement. We can only pray
If WW is way way better than Alex fine but if not it’s hard to justify benching an easily and often expertised commander for a brand new one. I’d rather build my other marches up
@@BigKaneRok you don’t act like it. Hating on this guy so bad you don’t realize that 300 extra factor counts toward the 2400 when someone is attacking you so whoever you hit get hits hard
Just a realist. If you’re taking skill damage already and not running you won’t trade positive either way. People don’t add Tariq’s 900 extra damage factor as a big “+” even though his skill damage on the active is the exact same. A small boost at most
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What do you think? Are you benching your Alex/Gorgo for WW?
Alex's debuff brings benefit to all other marches hitting that target unlike a boost to one's self. Alex is also immune to all damage reduction debuff (ZL's active). If people bench alex, honestly, that's good for me as a cav main haha and probably be helping archers too.
Not benching my Alex. It's an easy skip for me.
@@Xander2026scipio Alex is what I use and I use Liu Che Gorgo and both slap
I agree with you. I won’t be replacing my old trusty Alex with him until the verdict is out
Same here
Wallace Liu is absolutely stronger than Liu Alex 😅😅😅
William's active skill if someone is attacking you is 2400+300=2700 smite. Because this is smite, it is more powerful than skill; less smite damage reductions than skill damage reductions out there. William does not need to be surrounded for the 300 to activate. This was shown in Omniarch's clip of william's skill animation.
Yup, triggers on anyone who’s attacking you back, so apologies if I said “surrounded” as that verbiage isn’t entirely correct. Good for duels, less relevant for field
@@BigKaneRok Field is much about swarm😅
When you get swarm you should back, 300 factor damage is nothing
this is a must have, the aoe shield for allies will be huge impact, one people one wallace , can mitigate a lot damage, thus reduce wounded and stand longer in field battle, it is very significant, imagine all people 100+ people using it, if one shield hit can mitigate 1k damage, 100 people using at the same time can mitigate 100k damage at one time, and maybe wallace can active say 10 times shield before he is routed back to city, its so much impact on the field battle
Same for Alex : Aoe Debuff, Shield, imunite against all damage reduction
10:58 because cav players always whining . we inf gang even if we get usable commander we gonna be grateful
If gorgo is already invested in for LC, would you recommend to invest in WW or Guan as a pairing for Scipio?
Guan if you can get the relic. But I would wait for testing and field results to arrive first.
I wouldn’t recommend putting heads into Guan at this point.
We’ll see the new rally commander soon too!
I am passing on Wallace. Single target commanders are not that great. Every infantry commander can pair with Lui Che except Guan. Wallace is like Huo in that Nevsky is already owned making Huo useless. Lui Che and double relic Alex is just so good. Skippy needs a second commander I use Mehmed or Caesar as a second both double relic
You can watch the video from 1906 king, Cwill.
I couldn’t agree more actually your impression is the most sensible one 🫡
And i could know why every body loves ww and hate beli basically cuz inf always get garboo commander so when they have mid one that’s big change 😂😂😂
considering Alex has instant proc, i am interested to see LC Alex vs LC WW 1v1 results
Lc Alex will get obliterated
WW will win, but by how much I’m not sure. And Alex’s debuff is very nice, so I am tempted to stick with him tbh
@@pmin5554 Lc alex gets beat by Nevsky Joan. The difference will be staggering. I might even say it's comparable to Huo Nevsky for a duel setting.
@@Xander2026 someone tested it and it was 29k wounded for lc alex and 24k wounded for ww lc with 40k remaining, its not that big diff
LC + Alex and Wallace + Gorgo could be very interesting
The speed difference between this 2 marches would make it hard to control. Also where is your scipio ?
@@mattmattah7740 with the wallace march speed buff it wouldnt be that different.
You cant bench scipio lol
@@Hey_hello0211 cant bench what you never maxed
No need debuff here cuz we all have ( i mean most of us ) Scipi , Herman which already give us debuffs what we need
Hola Kane, i'm new here and i just subscribed you. I need your opinion here, i have been hoarding sculptures for LC long before WW came out. But now with the relase of WW, i'm confuse which one should i chose. I have Guan/ Scipio which is my current single march, then i have Alex and YSG expertised and being on the bench for long time. Before WW came out, i planned to get LC, pair him with Alex and run 2 infa marches, then i would continue infesting on ZL to be paired with YSG. Please give me your opinion on the situation that i have here.
@@sautmaranatha4343 both ZL and LC are better than WW. Go with your continued plan
@@BigKaneRok I really appreciate your time to answer my question. Thank you so much, have a gday!
Would he even replace my pyrrhus 🥴🤣
Literally what i was thinking, as a guy who uses 2 inf and the strongest cav and archer march I'm not that excited about WW. He just doesn't bring much difference to my murderball. He does more dmg than Alex but that 30% dmg taken debuff from alex expertise is just so strong while ww doesn't bring any debuffs. And he has no aoe. I'm more inclined to get Huo and pair him with YSG or Mehmed which will benefit more bc my hermann P poison. I'll say this, ww talent tree is the strongest if I dare say so myself but that's about it😂
100% right. The best thing about ww are the talents and bcs they will boost liu dmg. Just invested in gorgo, so if he doesnt do that much better, wont replace her
I actually am much more in agreement with you than I have been with most, but I’m curious your thoughts on this. I could see two best marches being LC and Alex or the new rally com, and Scipio with WW. Before LC people were running scipio/tariq, and I feel like WW is just a better Tariq behind Scipio. There is a lot of benefit to Scipio being primary and firing off the health debuff earlier.
Don’t think you bench Guan in the Guan/Scip combo for WW. At least not with the relic releasing.
Scip/Tariq was always suboptimal compared to Guan/Scip.
We’ll see what the new rally commander holds!
The only thing I think might make him stronger is that 40% boost on LC skill, but still we gotta wait for test. If he is skippable, good for me gonna hoard more GH
What about the new rally cmdr?
I’ve got a video for that! Check it out on the channel
hmm you make very valid points on him
Much stronger than poor Beli 😂
Beli-flop
hardcore inf man here i have no idea what pairs im going to run i have max gorgo scippy liu guan sargon and tariq dont know what 2 pairs i wanna run might invest in a third march at this point
We gotta wait untill we get another aoe commander for a 3rd. Somenthing like gorgo/ww for a 3rd sounds bad
What do you think about scipio alex and LC + willy, I feel like alex will trade way better than guan
are you living under a rock?
Scip/Alex is fine, but the guan variation will definitely perform better. If you don’t have Guan, then Alex is just fine!
Or try Scipio willy and LC Alex, or Scipio Liu and Willy Alex. Scipio ales doesn't work well
I disagree with you, but I liked how you broke down each skill in comparison to Beli P to back up your take. I believe that WW with LC or even Gorgo has strong potential precisely because of the boost from the Smite tree. If LC and Gorgo didn’t exist, I would agree with you, but both commanders are already strong, especially LC. Now, adding the damage amplification from WW along with the Smite tree makes it easy to see why infantry players are excited.
We’re all allowed to have our opinions. I think your hypothetical scenario is very valid and has potential! Thanks for your respectful comment ❤
My argument was more so that this commander isn’t strong because of his kit. But strong because of the smite tree and other existing commanders (Liu). Thus making him a suboptimal investment if you already have Gorgo or Alex.
I still think he’s top 4!
WW fits intobthe current meta much better. Most people run rwo cav marches and thet are cracked already. Hard to justify brwaking that up unless its for a compete monster.
Liu Che/Alex
Pyrrhus/William
Everyone has their opinion true but i think hes much more broken then he seems to you! Lets wait for testing 👍
very good video
Great video
Stream more often bro
Keep it up 🎉
Seems like a waste of Sculps if I already have Alex with museum buffs.
True
I am for sure gonna go for WW and Guan is gonna hit that bench. Idc if i need to use Scip/Alex. I aint playing that trash can anymore. Only way i dont go for WW is if mge commander is good Guan replacement. We can only pray
bruh
Now, I'm torn between Alex or WW 😅 Will just wait for whales to do testings on which is which.
Edward is still Nr. 1
Frustated cavs players be like
Fr 😂 the copium in this video is too much
he is a inf player ...
@@MoJo-gx9jg hes not that cracked bro
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@@manuelvelasco2761 I know some people who have Alex and Gorgo and will still invest in WW
If WW is way way better than Alex fine but if not it’s hard to justify benching an easily and often expertised commander for a brand new one. I’d rather build my other marches up
finally my PAKAL will retire :v
i just came here to write a comment, good video
why me name like this
@@villemediummkansonen9707 you had wrong account
The cope is so hard 😭😭😭
I think tuthmose is better than WW tbh, this guy belongs to the gold keys
U are drunk 😅😅😅
Cavs dont cry😊
Are you the big red machine?
Beli p is hated bcs its mainly for ark and swarming. Majority of player r field bro
The fact you saying that seriously 🤣
Nobody talk about a pairing with Sargon
Poor Sargon😂
RIP
Calvary guys can't stand it. We will be very good and make infantry meta again. Sorry Calv peeps
Tell us your a cav main without telling us your a cav main lol
Good thing I’m an inf main 🤨
@@BigKaneRok you don’t act like it. Hating on this guy so bad you don’t realize that 300 extra factor counts toward the 2400 when someone is attacking you so whoever you hit get hits hard
Just a realist. If you’re taking skill damage already and not running you won’t trade positive either way.
People don’t add Tariq’s 900 extra damage factor as a big “+” even though his skill damage on the active is the exact same.
A small boost at most
Sargon 2.0?
Main cavs is crazy , im out 😂😂
19:29
Sutf dude
It has rage debuff..
Sucks in primary
Kane i watch your Channel and I think that you are noob .. what are you talking about oh my god...
Time will tell…
You missed the point of the entire video 😂
Don't listen to this noob =D
:’)