This is perfect. Selling the stalking in the shadows with the subbass, with the growls hinting at the impending violence throughout. An then at 9:53 the theme unfolds, when the dread is fully realised. I also LOVE the reversed audio in the track as well.
I do want to start off by saying GODDAMN DUDE COOKED AGAIN, the theme, the skins - especially the draugr inspired Frozen terror Noc is just superb This a champion I've long hoped to get a major overhaul so If I may I would like to give my own personal take on where I would have taken Nocturne Lore Wise specifically and you can lemme know what you think since your version seems to be sticking closer to Ionia aesthetically: To me the similarities in Nocturne's design and the corrupted Master Kusho from the Zed comic as well as the uncanny (probably unintentional) Shockblade zed/Nocturne splash art overlap made me think literally turning Nocturne into Master Kusho would be a really fun direction for him. Yone came back from the dead after defeating his manifested inner demons/Azakana, so in my mind it would be cool if Kusho pretty much did the reverse; overdosing on the shadow magic and subjugating/controlling his inner demons to become something else - a new demon, the epicentre of the Azakana if you will. I cannot help but find the commonality between the Azakana's nature prey on individuals hyper specific fears and those same hyper specific fears we experience in our dreams, that and nearly all of the last line of dialogue we get from Kusho in the comic is preying on Zed's fear of abandonment and identity. I like to think Master Kusho turning into Nocturne is the sole reason why there is an Azakana epidemic in Ionia specifically. Yes they have dealt with much trauma, but so has literally every other region. To me it would allow nocturne to hone in on his own identity, give him ties to specific champions, have an actual impact in the lore, and fully separate him from fiddlesticks as since the rework it's been joked non stop how Nocturne has essentially become his bootleg. In this way he would ironically still be that though - a human turned demon - an imposter in the hierarchy, poetic since Kusho cheated to power much of his last few years in life with said shadow magic.
Yeah and making a Final Boss not only for Yone but for Ionia inself with Zed Karma etc Would make another good event like the Invasion of Viego but with Nocturne 😂
First of all thank you so much for the support Nicky! It really means a ton! Now to the nitty and gritty: back when I read the zed comics I definitely thought the same, additionally the general connection to the shadow magic in his bio, this can not be a coincidence (even though it just might be :D) Either way, master Kushiro certainly has to play a key part, even though Zed defeats him this defeated form could allow Nocturne to overthrow his spirit. And what happens with all the liquid shadow once he was gone? The shadow magic is tied to nocturne - that way Kusho is already in his grasps. Now the key part in my opinion is how to merge them, is Master Kusho a vessel? Did they merge? Did they become something new? How smart is nocturne? He has to be distinguished from Nilah and Swain - more than a tool. But maybe there is room for a demon who has overtaken a man, this would create a bridge between the full demons and Fiddlesticks/ Evelynn’s, but than again distinguish hin enough from the Darkin. But here also lies the biggest risk. Nocturne this twister of dreams, the twist in the psyche, the stupid tinnitus that drives you crazy, the feeling of someone watching out of your rooms corner. I like that about him and don’t want him to loose it. To come to a conclusion, I think it would long term improve this character, Skyen said once Nocs big problem is that is only good when he discovers the truth at the bottom of other champions. And of course this is absolutely true, the Kusho route would create someone who has agency, nocturnes power is still not fully available because he is trapped in the spirit realm and adding to your theory, the more intelligent mind of Kusho could try to find a solution for this! Now that made me very curious - I’m a bit scared that he gets overtaken by Kushos character and humanized but if done right this could be Ionians end boss, from first vanguard to greatest threat. Nerding out with nickyboi was not on my bucket list today but it certainly made my day!
I've kinda tuned out of league, but this sounds sick as hell and while it wouldn't bring me back to the game, I would be super hyped if there was a lore event that revealed stuff like this. Eh... maybe in another decade. (*c*)
I love this idea. it would also somewhat solve the issue of nocturne being weaker in his own field (fear) compared to fiddle by adding more personality and uniqueness to him.
Personally, I prefer Nocturne to be only an unknown entity. The mystery of not knowing what he really is, is what makes him scary. If his identity, even partially, is revealed he looses his ominous aura. People fear the unknown. I like him as an idea, a myth, as opposed to another human mingling with demons.
This rework really fits in the lore. Specifically after Lux banished Nocturne in the shadow realm and the Zed comics where Kusho got shadow magic (it can be nocturne in a weakened state). This is just a speculation
@@Venison049 yes this would be a very good variation of nocturne who regained power and through Kushos overdose and defeat by Zed, starts breaking through to the realm of the living.
@@Arthis_ I just wanna note that adding legs to someone who can float feels like a nerf. Flying is always portrayed faster than running, unless speedsters
The theme song gives this paranoic sensation with the constant whispers and the in crecendo violins. Literal chills imagining escaping from him in a nightmare. 🥶
Now I'm no game design genius, but I really like the horror concept of trying to hit a terrifying monster with a powerful weapon only for it to immediately become even more terrifying, threatening, and pissed off, like watching the spider you just stepped on spread out into hundreds of little babies I think the W could work as a sort of spell shield that gives him hugely boosted movement speed toward enemies/the enemy that hit him, and maybe increasing the W passive attack speed. Imagine hitting this insurmountable nightmare with an Ezreal Q dead-on and watching it consume your Mystic Shot, grow like 3 more legs, and then book it straight toward you
I've always loved the idea that Fiddlesticks is a predator - an ambush predator specifically, he wants to taunt you, terrorize you, lure you out and rip you to pieces when you're at your most terrified. Nocturne is a parasite. He wants to latch onto you, dig into your psyche, and never let you sleep again, until he's done sucking the nightmares from your skull. This could be that Nocturne, absolutely. And oh god, the MUSIC. I'm adding it on Spotify right away!
Fiddlesticks creates fear, he Devours it by the hundrens, thousands, hes not feared, he IS fear Nocturne by comparison, feeds upon the fear that is already there, cultivating nightmares threatening to consume you whole
Tahm Kench is a greed inducing demon who appears at your most the lowest point .Exploiting your weakened state to fulfill his wish by granting the human a wish....until he comes for payment after the human's wish is fulfilled.
Incredible work Ever since riot released Aurelion Sol, I’ve been saying they need to update Nocturn’s whispy little tail. Also this concept for his passive is legit 10/10 (even if it’s a little lack luster for laning Noct)
It could be something like Senna E, but stationary and that it makes invisible also minions/monsters (not the dragon or the baron tho) unless you go inside the area. I think it would make it harder for the enemy jungler to invade him and it's a good compromise for losing the aoe dmg of the older passive. The problem is that he would be really oppressive in a winning lane tho since he can hide the cannons and make it harder to last hit 🤔
tbh I could imagine nocturne somehow tought zed how to use shadow magic, I know zed found like a scroll of it or idk, but I'd still want to know how he learned to master it
I was thinking something similar but maybe like akalis smoke ring but instead it the whole area like the size of vlads sanguine pool and while hes in it he cant be CC'd, itl be a cast on self n only lasts a couple seconds but i think it fits that your not able to stun of knock up or whatever your nightmare,
Nocturne's W feels like a good opportunity to play with the idea of someone trying to fight back against their nightmare but not being able to actually hurt it and the fear that come with feeling weaker than you thought you were. Nocturne could turn incorporeal so that nothing can hurt him for a short period of time (1 second maybe). If an enemy champion were to attack Nocturne in this state, Nocturne inflicks weaken debuff (enemies do less damage to you and allies) to the enemy to emulate the feeling of powerlessness people have when having a nightmare. That feeling of not being able to run as fast as you think you should or hit as hard as you know you should. Great job on the Nocturne rework!
Very great direction, I actually made a half desolved form of his model 😃 I was just afraid that it’s so much like the old duskblade effect, but maybe I should have thought further! Great take!
"Nothing can hurt" / Invulnable is broken, Unstopable is broken, Spellshield is lame, and we're playing Champions vs Champions here, not vs random minion, so it should be like: For a sec or more, he gets dmg reduction, self disarmed, and a spell-thornmail "weaken" deflect. I think that's enough. It's an OP defense nontheless. The best you could do is CC him but your carries shouldn't hit him at all.
@@Rhyolite-hyena I actually made a comment that gives an idea to something similar. He should sacrifice a percentage of his HP and he turns into a shadow that gives movespeed and can conceal allies. Similar to Akali's W, but much smaller in scale.
@@Arthis_ play on the idea of sleep paralysis, that will take a while so be patient with me and tell me what you think of this idea he engulfes himself in shadows for 1.5 seconds deflecting auto attacks for the first second and during the last half second the shadows thickens and grows spikes to block the next ability fired at him, and if Nocturne manages to block an ability then we have 2 scenarios : 1- the traget is effected by the Q when Nocturne blocked the ability: the target gets sleep "paralyzed" for 2 sec but attacking the traget or using the W on him , breaks the effect short immedialty and the debuff is replaced by another "Fear Shock" the target next movement command is switched to a random direction than the one pressed. Ex ( you click right, your character moves left XD) Note: CC abilities ( of all kinds even knock ups) on Paralyzed targets will lose their effect, and will only trigger "Fear Shock" kinda like how breaking Zoe sleep bubble does. 2- the target isn't effected by the Q : the target is slowed by a percentage breaking down the ability: ( first scenario put skills expression on the W and the whole kit now you have to time your Q and W just right to get the full effect, it also gives a counter play for the enemy by avoiding the Q to deny Nocturne the effect or to not attack him during his W duration), the add of the "Shock" part also makes sure that he won't have too much chain CC on the same target which can be frustarting it also adds another skillfull aspect to him (for example you can now Palarize a target then then E another for a strategical move) ( the second scenario is a huge nerf becasue with this we can reward good nocturne players for mastering their champion and gives a satisfaction feeling when you pull the empowered W rather than this slow version that is kinda lame compared to Paralyzing your target) i also added an abouns effect so Nocturne stores the damage of the attakcs fired at him during the W then after the effects ends it creates a shockwave that slightly pushes everyone inside the vision range but his target by 2 teemo untis away and slowes them for a percentage of the damage blocked by the W capped at 20% slow( this effect happens in both scenarios), this will give him a window to carry out the stragtey of Palaryzing one and E another near)
This is just amazing! I love this concept SO much, and the music was so on point. It gave me the chills whilst also being so lore accurate and beautiful.
Your work should be recognized by Riot, all your projects are amazing, I believe you could bring old players back to the game, I love your work, keep it up ❤
@@matheusvieirademorais1568 thank you so much I would love to give them full access to the visuals to finally see this demon realized in a proper state!
Props to the Artists! this is what i feel like what Nocturne should be like when he recieves a VGU. everything design-wise and his theme, fits his nightmare-inducing motifs. I am glad i found this channel, everything is wonderful!
12:25 The whispers are inspired from Dune, the Bene Gesserit theme composed by Hans Zimmer. With Dune being as popular as it is, a cinematic masterpiece as well as having an incredible music score, it's hard to believe you haven't seen it and haven't heard the exact same track, and therefore harder to believe your inspiration was a random thought of genius. If anyone listens to the first 30 seconds of that piece, the whispers line up almost exactly the same, same pitch of whisper, same rhythm, same pronunciation. Give credit where credit is due.
W - Veil of Sleepless Night, Nocturn spreads his shadows around himself, making him camouflaged, any opponent who enters him briefly receives near sight. So ability for 1v1 opponents, others who aren't in him cant see him and those who are in him cant see others.
I said camouflaged, but I meant more like Gwen's shroud but moves with him, and it doesn't make him untargetable, so skill shots still can hit him but makes HIM invisible but not the surrounding shadows, and only when you went into the shadows you can like AA him etc. but then you can't see around you. When I'm writing this, I just realized it is very similar to Senna but not the same, and fits the character well I think.
Senna E but only for you but enemies that enter the ring becomes near sighted to everything outside is genius. It fits nocturne perfectly and it adds a near sight effect to his basic abilties which I think is a good idea, because it really emphasizes Nocturne has THE near sight champion that creeps, haunts and stalks you until you die from him or the paranoia that he is coming for you. I say kick it up another notch and make it so allies to the enemy that is inside your ring of fog cannot see their ally that is inside either, making them untargetable for their allies. Meaning enchanters can't point and click to heal them, kayle can't ult them, ect. Nothing can save you from nocturne when you are alone with him.
@@kissuri9344 It seem kinda, weak? Like you can just go in the shroud and kill him, while Gwen get's bonus defensive attributes and the untargetability allows her to dodge stuff like Riven's Wind Slash (R2) or Sett's Haymaker (W). This ability seem like you'll get like 2 or 3 extra autos in which I don't know how much it will heal against a Morde, Urgot or Rengar with his overpowered Battle Roars (W). I would say this ability would be good in team fights because it will make it easier for your team mates to kill them.
Actual goosebumps on the theme! The whispering and the increasing intensity made it feel like something was crawling from the abyss into reality with a tremendous aura!
The theme goes crazy! The whispering is genius. And the crazy sax! Edit: Ah, so we're playing Silent Hill when Nocturne is on the enemy team, got it! Edit 2: This is crazy good! Even the skins are crazy good! Thank you everyone for this hardwork, it looks amazing!
I love the fact that you can clearly see the evolution of quality in the videos themselves and the production value with each new video drop. lovely stuff 👏
i just saw this masterpiece that you created guys, and is stunning. Desing, Music, Lore, playstyle. You guys did 10000 times better than RIOT Games. Im playing LOL since Diana was released, i remember the Login Screen, the Music, the Feeling of playing a New Champion, the Feeling of knowing a new history. When everything was more simple but more consistent. Its just sad how RIOT Games leaved aside good stories and good designs for a more "Friendly", POP and accesibles champs. They just turned into the Kawai- stylized- Anime stetic for every single New Champion (with a few exceptions). And for me, to watched this, was so refreshing and nostalgic, specially for the Music and the art. Thank you so much for giving a trip to my Adolescence.
@@Arthis_ i like Nocturne for Ionia since Evelynn and Fiddle are in Demacia Nocturne Ws could be Nocturne can't attack but transform into untargetable smoke with a bost in speed like his shield Or literally the ability of enter the Spirit realm has the Bunny champion 😂, turns into true invisible for a seconds and he cant attack until ends the cast
THIS IS SO AWESOME! I wanted to talk more about the theme. The music feels so fitting. The growing anticipation and dread, the sound of something ancient (almost reminded me of something Sumerian in origin), the foreboding whisper. The start sounded like if you've accidentally stepped into an abandoned city, where even critters seem to be none existent. Something swampy perhaps, definitely foggy. I think Noah really hit it with the theme. Amazing honestly.
I feel like a good ability for his W could be something similar to vlad pool. He can't cast anything through it - because, of course, nightmares cant hurt you, right? - but his E channel would stay tethered.
I love how you made Nocturne´s secondary color blue, mostly because it not only matches Kayn in his base and Shadow Assassin form, another shadow magic user, but it also gives a fascinating implication about him lore-wise. Since the Shadows Assassin is the epitome of what Kayn could be if he completely dominated the shadows, his blue colors could indicate that he is not so far from becoming something akin to Nocturne. Don't think it brings much to the table, but I really like Kayn and it's a nice detail that I noticed. Amazing work as always, and I loved the theme Noah composed.
For his ult and W, same W. When he casts R he reflects the next cc he is hit with to a champion, but can onlt reflect the cc not the dmg. And the cc can only be applied to who cast it, so ashe r will only stun ashe. And it cant be procced on a champion if they have been feared by his e before. And it scales based of his w like 1/1/2/2/3. To incentivize maxing W in high cc comps. Like stated earlier can only cc the person who cast it like they cant escape their own fears and teammates cant troll you, and say W is maxed and can reflect 3 CC’s there is a limit to once per champion
Your videos, art and music are inspiring and of such high quality! I love this channel I've also edited a few videos and created spotify playlists to League and this song is so incredibly fitting and unique, I've added it straight through. Keep up the good work, looking forward to your future projects 💯🔥
@@mars2012 Thank you Mars this means so much! As you’ve edited a few videos you probably know how much energy goes into creating the these passion projects 🥹 it’s unbelievable beautiful to see them recognized so well 🫶 thank you so much again and to many many more🙌
@@Arthis_ It would be so cool if there really was that much creativity in the game again. It almost makes me sad what could be if you didn't just rely on quantity, simplicity and money. Like this... this is how it should be done...
W Idea: ((Sorry, it's a long one.)) Itemization - Tiamat sounds like it'd be a bread&butter item for him early, since he can benefit from any of it's finished forms. Ravenous for ad/lifesteal, Profane for arpen/snowballing, Titanic for hp/tankyness, Stridebreaker for extra CC/as/E syngery. Black Cleaver probably wouldn't be bad or Sterak's if he needs it. And of course all the lethality items. Which is kinda exactly what we want(great job!), so we'll want to avoid making his W syngergize with Tank or Mage items. Role - His kit and definitely his ult will probably encourage roaming(which Junglers do) or staying near the center of the map, making me think he could possibly off-role as a Mid. Despite the fact that people will probably get baited into Top because of his Fighter'y stats. As he wouldn't benefit from his Q or R as much against champs who want to sit there and trade extensively. However this means that he'll most likely be vulnerable to other Fighter, Invade, Engage type of champions. That coupled with the fact that we want to counter Squishy, Disengage, types who have a decent amount of CC. And we can see why Riot probably made his W the way they did originally. An ability that can double as an option to punch through CC to get to your target or shrug it off and get away from their Lee Si- err Engagers. But we also don't want to just remake or keep the same ability. And in team fights we have a point-and-click engage to their back line, however after the target is dead we can quickly become surrounded or focused on. So our best bet at covering all these bases is some kind of Utility, and without it being too hard of a counter to our counters. Gameplay - Assuming so far that we don't want to make his W too Defensive and the fact that it has a few holes to plug. It's most likely not going to be a traditional Offensive ability that you'll be spamming either. Which means that there is going to be a lot of auto attacking. And as a Jungler this puts the heavy lifting on his Passive in terms of jungle clearing. He'll also be roaming a lot, ganking, securing river objectives and scouting/invading. But his mobility is going to be situational, focused around fights, however this could work in our favor. Being a demon of nightmares or darkness, we could embrace the slow and constant pressure of what creeps in the unknown. W: Phantasmagoria Cost: 80/85/90/95/100 Mana Cooldown: 18/16/14/12/10 Passive: Nocturne plants a seed of doubt into his victim's mind. When a Champion or Monster is hit by Phantasmagoria they recieves a mark of Doubt. The mark lasts 6s, empowering the next Nocturne ability that hits them. Additionally, if the mark is consumed while Nocturne is unseen by the target, the mark will spread to the next 2 closest viable targets(up to 600units away). Active: Nocturne instills confusion and hesitancy in all. Tap: A mimicry of Duskbringer lashes out, dealing no damage on it's own but will still cause enemies hit by it to leave a trail of shadows, however the shadows do not provide Nocturne with increased movement speed. Hold: An illusion of Unspeakable Horror reaches out and attaches itself like the real ability would, including revealing the area, however it deals no damage, will not bind the target nor give Nocturne a movement speed buff. Empowered Ability Effects: Monsters: A mark of Doubt consumed from a Monster will cause abilities to deal increased damage and provide some health regen for 4s. Umbra Blades: If Doubt is consumed by Umbra Blades it will reduce the cooldown of Phantasmagoria by 25%. Duskbringer: Doubt consumed by Duskbringer will also cause the shadows to empower Nocturne with 30% Tenacity. Unspeakable Horror: When Unspeakable Horror consumes Doubt, the enemy that was afflicted by it is in turn Grounded for 2s. Paranoia: Doubt that is consumed by Paranoia is turned into Creeping Certainty. Creeping Certainty lasts for 3s and allows for any damage done by Nocturne that brings a target to or below 6% health to be Executed. Obviously the numbers could probably use some work or shifting, but the idea here, beyond letting Nocturne do more Nocturne things, is to give the player some creative outplay potenntial. Since we were avoiding encouraging Tanky'ness and not copy the current W, I figured that it would be interesting and in line with Nocturne's theme to be a bit more deceptive. If you're maybe trying to escape an invade, turning and faking an E could cause them to back off long enough to gain some distance. While still keeping your E ready for if that didn't work. Or if you do have to run out in the open for a gank, it can maybe bait out a Flash or an escape. And if it does hit, makes them more vulnerable. With the spreading mechanic it also still encourages ambushing, striking from bushes or utilizing game knowledge to know when you are in or out of line of sight. As well as it providing some synergy with other champions, like Quinn, Senna, Graves, etc. And it makes it not feel as bad if you have to Ult the carry from 100units away. Lol.
Daaaamn thank you for all the effort! I will definitely keep that in mind! 🫶 riot August said he wanted to make a change to his w when he reworks it I think I make a post about different versions and try to somehow get it to be seen by rioters, not to make their job but to have some insight into what the community would like to see 😃
I will say there is an extremely underplayed variant that is the style of gameplay that made me fall in love with him as my main back in season 9, and that is Attack Speed Lifesteal nocturne. back in the day, the build was AS jungle item, Sanguine Blade, Bork, then kinda whatever you needed after that. you took lethal tempo and slash your enemies to death with tons of passive procs, tons of healing, and fantastic chase. id love to see a world again where the AS Assassin can come back as he once was
I just wanted to let you know that what you did here is absolutely incredible, and I'm so proud of the result! I cannot believe the amount of work that went into this project. But you created a masterpiece of a video that was entertaining and amazing from start to finish! Amazing job, thank you ✨
Here is an idea for his W. “Fears made flesh” Nocturne gains damage reduction for a short duration. During this time any attacks that hit him cause a spectral duplicate of himself to spawn and dash at the attacker, hitting for a percentage of Nocturne’s auto attack and applying a stacking slow. This would help him chase down ranged champs and give him survivability for both lethality and bruiser builds.
W skill can be manipulate and can get inside the enemys head so its overpowered but must be used with with E i think and also magnificent work man Nocturne needs this !! ❣️
With those skins you made some of them could be considered canon given the region. Since Nocturne is a living nightmare, for all the folklore they heard about monsters, Nocturne changes to their appearance to those folklore monsters. Frostbite for Frelijord, Hextech for Piltover, Void for Shurimia, Old God for Ionia and his default appearance is that of Demacia.
The design is definitely an upgrade, but I feel like the kit still needs a bit more, otherwise he would end up like Skarner, and become forgotten again after a few months
@@Arthis_besides his w I think that all of his abilities need something extra. Maybe his q letting him go through walls or smth. And make his ult create fake versions of himself so enemies think that nocturne is going to jump on them but instead he chose another enemy champion
@@Arthis_ August said that Nocturne is the most popular champion among new players, yet they drop him, due to how boring his kit is. I'd love you to revision his kit with that in mind, maybe going into sleep hallucinations theme and for example make Nocturne cause sleep hallucinations where player sees many nocturnes and nocturne himself controls few copies of himself, so player is always kept guessing which one is the real one until it's too late. Imagine seeing 6 Nocturnes and now knowing which one is which.
@@cloudson3886 I made a post years ago about why this is and Vedius agrees with me, among pretty much everyone else who plays Nocturne. He does not reward skill expression. Getting a measly 20-40% attack speed boost for successfully blocking a spell isn't good enough. You'd think blocking a spell is it's own reward but remember that his power budget is taking up that spell slot too. He's also susceptible to the highly mobile flashy champions, and he's often punished just for using his ult (this is mostly a skill issue but it's a hard and not obvious learning curve). He's a **terrible** champion to try and climb with.
As a nocturne otp, this is absolutely the coolest, well designed fan project I've ever fricken seen!!!!! Wonderful job my friend 🙏 Riot - PLEASE HIRE THEM.
What a phenomenal concept. Superb work and amazing job to you and everyone who worked with you. I think the only opinion I hold is some slight adjustments to his Q and an idea for his W. I reckon for his Q, it works almost the exact same way but instead of slashing it downwards, he slashes it upwards, and 0.5 (or however short/long after) the shadows crawl forward and if a champion is hit by it, they get slowed by a certain amount if at the edges but if hit within the 900 unit range, they get feared by like 0.25 and walk towards you almost like he's appearing to them as a light in the dark tunnel, rather than the nightmare demon he is. Kinda like how angler fish work to lure in their prey. For his W, I reckon the spell shield block should stick, but instead of just a spell shield, perhaps he could cloak himself in shadows which will buff his passive to instead of 200 units, instead he'll only appear visible within 100 units and is able to block vision items such as the blue orb, and normal wards. Pink wards still work effectively. This will either last until it expires within a set amount of time, gets hit by a spell, or he gets spotted by a control ward. In doing so, it'll keep the spirit of his old W but make it have a touch more utility and give him that slight increase in skill expression as if his ult is down, his W can be used as a way to gap close on an enemy (but will still give indicators Ala his passive shadow creeping in), or it can be used to navigate around the enemy jng for a gank if they don't do a good job at warding but if used too early, too often or just a touch late in a valuable dive, teamfight or objective push, it'll remove one of his key abilities to navigate around a fight without ult and even with ult, it'll prevent him from becoming too effective if used willy-nilly.
W ideas below the annoying paragraph. My take on his W would include some movement since that’s always how he’s portrayed in cinematics and lore, and since his gameplay right now boils down to goofily chasing champions in a game where everything and their mother slows you making fights without your ult turn into 10 seconds of “hehe you can’t catch me!” That said I have two ideas (the first one probably works better, but I like the second one). W: “Your own shadow betrays you” Enter a nightmare state for two seconds, granting Nocturne bonus movement speed on dusk trails and a recast on this ability. When recast, Nocturne gains a spell shield that negates the next ability that would affect him. If the spell shield’s effect is consumed by an enemy that currently has a dusk trail, nocturne will blink behind them (to their own shadow) and refresh the dusk trails duration. If the target was also affected by unspeakable horror, the damage and fear procs instantly upon Nocturnes arrival. W: HE’S IN THE GODDAMN WALLS “The moment you cannot see me, I am everywhere” Can only be activated when Nocturne is on a dusk trail. Nocturne sinks into the ground becoming one with the shadows. For the next 2.5 seconds he cannot be seen or targeted by enemies and gains 200% movement speed, but cannot use abilities or move outside of dusk trails (can move through terrain?). When used, enemies within the abilities range become paranoid, causing the next damage they receive from Nocturne to silence them for 0.5 seconds and reduce their armor. If Nocturne is untargetable during this time, the silence becomes a fear instead.
You guys killed it with this redesign and really captured the identity of what Nocturne represents and brought him into modern form. Its videos like this and NickyBoi's Cassiopeia redesign that I kinda wish Riot would focus more on older champs and revamp them. A lot of good stuff is being shown here and just think about the possibilities for champs like Shaco and Cho'Gath getting a new look. Keep up the amazing work 🔥
I LOVED the idea of the candles on his back and them slowly lighting up as his ult charges back, and thought about if this could be a base skin idea. What if the eyes on his back,when his ult is on cooldown, close one-by-one (like they're drifting back to sleep) until you're shocked awake by a paranoid nightmare and the eyes open immediately once he ults?
wow wow wow no words really, incredible work I have never played nocturne in my 8 years in league, but I would consider rerolling just for the design, crazy
WOW I am in love with this design, good job! I love his venom-esque look, the creepy arms on the back that get enhanced when he ults, and the spooky nasty legs!!! Also the music was great. I really liked how the whispers kind of sound like drum hi-hats and cymbals. Really great job to Noah aswell!
I have an idea for W. "W-Exit Light: Nocturne activates a shadowy spell shield that blocks the first enemy ability. If hard CC or a Slow is blocked, Nocturne becomes temporarily invisible and the champion whose ability was blocked becomes drowsy. W(recast)-Enter Night: Nocturne blinks on top of the asleep champion and deals Magic Damage based on missing health." If you are low and nocturne is chasing you down, don't try and slow him down, JUST. RUN.
Me encanta que conservaran la escencia de su kit original, lo considero muy bueno para aprender a jugar lol, ademas que lo reinventaron de una manera sana manteniendo la tematica de "cortar en pedazos a sus victimas" con sus oscuras cuchillas que es algo iconico en nocturne. Muy bien pensado el rework 10/10
This rework idea is sick '-' The appearance, the music. Great work. The W could be something linked to the fog of war as of the passive idea: While active shrowds himself and any enemy bind by his Q in fog of war for a few seconds while also providing defenses agains attackers who can not see him (appart from the ones affected by his Q).
Awesome rework!! Nocturne used to be my main! My idea for W rework: all his arms extend and start covering himself. If it blocks an ability, an small area under him explodes into darkness, mechanically acting like a bush. Enemy outside the field can't see Nocturne or their allies who are inside the field. Within this field of darkness, Nocturne gains some buff. For every extra enemy in the field, he becomes scarier. Hope this sparks some more ideas. It's mechanically about the same with some extra bonus but still matching his theme of darkness and malice.
@@fluffyfood super cool idea! I will definitely do some visuals for something like that 😃 when I make a video about his potential w! And ty for the 2 🥳🫶
As you asked in the video, about his w spell, we can think about a shadowy form, something which turns him into a gaseous state, makes him untouchable for 1 up to 1,5 seconds. During that time, you can't be hit by basic attacks. Spells damage are reduced by 50%, or crowd control are nullified. If the theme of the champion is to provoke fear, this could really be in that line.
Just wanted to say you are amazing at this, your concepts are just insane and feel so fitting to the lore a change id make to the ultimate is when he activates it, everyone gets an image of nocturne running at them, a horrifying paranoia that is induced on every summoner, I feel like it'd increase the horror global presence aspect besides just being nearsighted, of course only one summoner is actually targeted, the one you choose, but the idea of "no one is safe" being capitalized on and inducing fear of knowing if the image flying at you is the real nightmare just feels like so much more of a spine chill
The effort you guys put into this is INSANE, you’re so good that i have to PLEAD with you. Please consider trying to make Ledros, from LOR and the ruination novel, he’s such a good character and im sad that riot still hasn’t given him his due. I’d love to see your take on him.
I love this interpretation of Nocturne, he's so menacing and powerful in this design. You can really imagine this Nocturne finding Lillia's Mother Tree and filling it with nightmares only for Yone to come in last second before an epic battle ensues.
I love with the ultimate you were able to incorporate a bunch of earlier concepts into your final design. As someone who is studying to be an artist, it’s always sad to see previous designs go, but you being able to take over four different previous looks is so amazing. You’re truly one of the most talented league designers ever!
Incredible, love your work man. The ULT IS AMAZING, the way that he can grow and morph into a monster is so genius. Can't wait to see your next project.
Never really sat down to think of a kit for it but I always had an idea that Nocturne could select an enemy and nerf their fog of war distance as part of his ultimate, showing a "vision" ring around them and the longer Nocturne would spend in that ring between vision and the fog the more points it would feed to his Darkness, early game giving movespeed when exiting the ring, mid game becoming the dash toward the target we currently have and once fully stacked nerfing the vision of every enemy near Nocturne. Kind of like Myers' stalking mechanic from DBD, rewarding being a creep.
Amazing work, the music in particular reminds me a lot of the Bene Gesserit songs that were present in the Dune movie. Spectacular concepts all around with the redesign of Nocturne.
This is amazing. I wish he looked like this in the game. Lol, take notes. And the music OMG if gives me Fiddlesticks vibes but even more unsettling, we're Fiddlesticks is screaming, and jump scares nocturn is creepy and uneasy . it fits the redesign so well. You guys did fantastic work 👏 man I needed this nocturn, which is one of my favorite champions, You guys captured exactly what i've been craving.
Maybe for W when you activate it you truly become a shadow and all projectiles can't hit you, instead they went through you and pass you. And for each projectile that went pass you, you attack speed increases? You become untargetable for projectiles.
holy ****, this is so amazing, the amount of creativity in this is gorgeous, you guys made something amazing and i am hoping and begging this gets more traction so riot actually does something to make this vision a reality, cause wow I want this in game. You guys absolutely nailed it! I have added the theme to my playlist, it hits SO hard, I'm in love. would describe more, but listening to it gives a different feeling each time, don't know if it was intentional, but I feel like focusing on separate parts of the music just gives a deeper impression for each listen. Just a personal take, i feel like instead of legs running at you, you could instead make the floor like a mirror, keep him floating above it, but make like splashes of shadows for the impact of something running at you while still keeping the floating nightmare demon vibe, something like water splashes but just darker and maybe with more of a sticky ink kind of feel. For his W, i feel like something akin to Vladimir puddle and enhanced Kai'sa (enhanced) supercharge, would be appropriate, something that appears from the shadows, making him briefly invisible or un-targetable, and kind of like slipping into the spirit realm, and you can add this to the theme of the legs I talked about, and make it so he appears under the ground like a mirror, maybe giving him a stat boost like the attack speed of his current W.
Only thing I think personally could be cool for nocturne, to really sell the nightmare theme, could be for him to have a sleep ability. And perhaps a passive that allows nocturne to deal bonus damage to a sleeping target and if this procs they are then feared for a duration when they wake up. It would give him some unique synergy with other champs that utilise sleep and would play into the nightmare fantasy more so than fiddle stick's fear only one. To be clear though, I love what you've done with the champ and it's a massive improvement on the current one! I'd love to see what you could pull off with some of the other older champions 👌
My idea for the W ability is a domed shaped cloud of darkness that Nocturne conjures around him. The old name stays (Shroud of Darkness) since it fits with the ability. All champions and minions that are inside the dome can only see whats inside and cannot see what is outside. The same is true for anyone outside the dome, they cannot see inside it. Abilities can still go through. Now Nocturne can gain maybe an attack speed increase while he is inside or his attacks slow the target up to a point, or both. It would probably be used in combination with his R, E, Q combo and it can give Nocturne some pseudo protection so he can dispatch his foe with little interruption. Now the size of the dome can be a bit tricky since the bigger it is, more champs are in it and you can be interrupted with point and click CC, or you can annihilate the opposing team with your in-shround bonuses. Making it small takes all of the guess work out of the equation where Nocturne could be and the target can more easily escape. I think its an ability that has very good upside and downside depending on how well you use it. Maybe you can bait people into the shroud and then turn with an ally or cut of important choke points preventing ADCs to aa you while you get a kill, etc.
Absolutely fantastic work!! I love the new design, theme as well as his potential lore ties to other champion. One idea I find worth exploring is giving him some Sleep mechanic in his gameplay like mb his E is an aura that after some time puts every enemy champions around to sleep as well as his other abilities having unique effects when attacking sleeping champions (or just simply dealing bonus dmg + it would be kinda fun for him to have some interactions with other Sleep champions like Zoe or Lillia). His W could be like diving inside a sleeping champion making himself untargetable for a short duration and casting fear when exiting out. Basically making him different from Fiddlesticks by giving him a unique way to interact with champions and fear mechanics. But still I love your design and vision and can only hope to see it come to live in future.😍
How I would redesign Nocturnes W: On activation, poof into an ethereal state that you cannot move during, at the end of that duration, teleport a set short distance (scaling with move speed). While ethereal, you project a dark shadow around you (out to teleport range) thats visible if you were visible at the start of the cast point
The design is super good, really love the direction you went with and especially for his additional arms It makes it look like he's always creepily praying or scheming But it would look better just in my opinion, if the arms were the ones coming out of his back and under his other set Just to give the idea that it isn't as important as his actual arms Plus it looks and feels like his actual arms are restricted
I understand where you’re coming from. Maybe it would’ve been good to actually go with a visible restriction if putting them on top like the current version. To simbolize that he was once pound and is still struggling a bit with that. But I think your version works really well!
15:28 Nocturne W idea Norturne shroud a mist a pure nightmare and darkness for a second, blocking the first ability hit. After successful blocking an ability, for the next few seconds, his W is replaced by Nightmarish Shock. Nightmarish Shock: Nocturne stabs and dashes foward with his blades. Dealing damage to all minions in his path, stopping at the first enemy champion hit dealing damage and granting him attack speed. This is a very simple one I have, giving him a tool he can use to both catch up or quickly escape when being spotted. What you have done is amazing btw! Very good art and concepts overall! Keep going
SO glad to have worked on this project!
The music video is out on my channel!!!!
Check out Noah and play this theme on repeat!
I crave for such awesome soundtrack...
This is perfect. Selling the stalking in the shadows with the subbass, with the growls hinting at the impending violence throughout. An then at 9:53 the theme unfolds, when the dread is fully realised. I also LOVE the reversed audio in the track as well.
Good job Noah! Thank you for your fantastic work❤
FREAKING SICK
This is the best way to make a portfolio I’ve ever seen
hahahha thanks so much - this way gives me the best feedback 😄!
I do want to start off by saying GODDAMN DUDE COOKED AGAIN, the theme, the skins - especially the draugr inspired Frozen terror Noc is just superb
This a champion I've long hoped to get a major overhaul so If I may I would like to give my own personal take on where I would have taken Nocturne Lore Wise specifically and you can lemme know what you think since your version seems to be sticking closer to Ionia aesthetically:
To me the similarities in Nocturne's design and the corrupted Master Kusho from the Zed comic as well as the uncanny (probably unintentional) Shockblade zed/Nocturne splash art overlap made me think literally turning Nocturne into Master Kusho would be a really fun direction for him.
Yone came back from the dead after defeating his manifested inner demons/Azakana, so in my mind it would be cool if Kusho pretty much did the reverse; overdosing on the shadow magic and subjugating/controlling his inner demons to become something else - a new demon, the epicentre of the Azakana if you will. I cannot help but find the commonality between the Azakana's nature prey on individuals hyper specific fears and those same hyper specific fears we experience in our dreams, that and nearly all of the last line of dialogue we get from Kusho in the comic is preying on Zed's fear of abandonment and identity.
I like to think Master Kusho turning into Nocturne is the sole reason why there is an Azakana epidemic in Ionia specifically. Yes they have dealt with much trauma, but so has literally every other region. To me it would allow nocturne to hone in on his own identity, give him ties to specific champions, have an actual impact in the lore, and fully separate him from fiddlesticks as since the rework it's been joked non stop how Nocturne has essentially become his bootleg. In this way he would ironically still be that though - a human turned demon - an imposter in the hierarchy, poetic since Kusho cheated to power much of his last few years in life with said shadow magic.
Yeah and making a Final Boss not only for Yone but for Ionia inself with Zed Karma etc
Would make another good event like the Invasion of Viego but with Nocturne 😂
First of all thank you so much for the support Nicky! It really means a ton!
Now to the nitty and gritty: back when I read the zed comics I definitely thought the same, additionally the general connection to the shadow magic in his bio, this can not be a coincidence (even though it just might be :D)
Either way, master Kushiro certainly has to play a key part, even though Zed defeats him this defeated form could allow Nocturne to overthrow his spirit. And what happens with all the liquid shadow once he was gone? The shadow magic is tied to nocturne - that way Kusho is already in his grasps.
Now the key part in my opinion is how to merge them, is Master Kusho a vessel? Did they merge? Did they become something new? How smart is nocturne? He has to be distinguished from Nilah and Swain - more than a tool. But maybe there is room for a demon who has overtaken a man, this would create a bridge between the full demons and Fiddlesticks/ Evelynn’s, but than again distinguish hin enough from the Darkin.
But here also lies the biggest risk. Nocturne this twister of dreams, the twist in the psyche, the stupid tinnitus that drives you crazy, the feeling of someone watching out of your rooms corner. I like that about him and don’t want him to loose it.
To come to a conclusion, I think it would long term improve this character, Skyen said once Nocs big problem is that is only good when he discovers the truth at the bottom of other champions. And of course this is absolutely true, the Kusho route would create someone who has agency, nocturnes power is still not fully available because he is trapped in the spirit realm and adding to your theory, the more intelligent mind of Kusho could try to find a solution for this! Now that made me very curious - I’m a bit scared that he gets overtaken by Kushos character and humanized but if done right this could be Ionians end boss, from first vanguard to greatest threat.
Nerding out with nickyboi was not on my bucket list today but it certainly made my day!
I've kinda tuned out of league, but this sounds sick as hell and while it wouldn't bring me back to the game, I would be super hyped if there was a lore event that revealed stuff like this. Eh... maybe in another decade. (*c*)
I love this idea. it would also somewhat solve the issue of nocturne being weaker in his own field (fear) compared to fiddle by adding more personality and uniqueness to him.
Personally, I prefer Nocturne to be only an unknown entity. The mystery of not knowing what he really is, is what makes him scary. If his identity, even partially, is revealed he looses his ominous aura. People fear the unknown. I like him as an idea, a myth, as opposed to another human mingling with demons.
Send this to RIOT, this project deserves to be mentioned to executives ...
Amaizng work !
Hopefully you will do Shaco one day!
I fucking love what you guys did with Nocturne. Riot should hire you.
@@Shaco. thank you so much! I will make a poll for the next rework after arcane and he will be in it! 😃
#riot pls
damn shaco has so little lore he broke into real life to beg for sum.
@@Arthis_ I hope Riven would be in it, but for an ASU tho. I think the kit is good as is.
Riot games, they hire only wokes now. 😆
This rework really fits in the lore. Specifically after Lux banished Nocturne in the shadow realm and the Zed comics where Kusho got shadow magic (it can be nocturne in a weakened state). This is just a speculation
@@Venison049 yes this would be a very good variation of nocturne who regained power and through Kushos overdose and defeat by Zed, starts breaking through to the realm of the living.
@@Arthis_ I just wanna note that adding legs to someone who can float feels like a nerf. Flying is always portrayed faster than running, unless speedsters
The theme song gives this paranoic sensation with the constant whispers and the in crecendo violins. Literal chills imagining escaping from him in a nightmare. 🥶
check our song of the sisters from dune
Now I'm no game design genius, but I really like the horror concept of trying to hit a terrifying monster with a powerful weapon only for it to immediately become even more terrifying, threatening, and pissed off, like watching the spider you just stepped on spread out into hundreds of little babies
I think the W could work as a sort of spell shield that gives him hugely boosted movement speed toward enemies/the enemy that hit him, and maybe increasing the W passive attack speed. Imagine hitting this insurmountable nightmare with an Ezreal Q dead-on and watching it consume your Mystic Shot, grow like 3 more legs, and then book it straight toward you
I've always loved the idea that Fiddlesticks is a predator - an ambush predator specifically, he wants to taunt you, terrorize you, lure you out and rip you to pieces when you're at your most terrified.
Nocturne is a parasite. He wants to latch onto you, dig into your psyche, and never let you sleep again, until he's done sucking the nightmares from your skull.
This could be that Nocturne, absolutely.
And oh god, the MUSIC. I'm adding it on Spotify right away!
Fiddlesticks creates fear, he Devours it by the hundrens, thousands, hes not feared, he IS fear
Nocturne by comparison, feeds upon the fear that is already there, cultivating nightmares threatening to consume you whole
nocturne is basically that, he appears in your dreams and he makes you never sleep again
Tahm Kench is a greed inducing demon who appears at your most the lowest point .Exploiting your weakened state to fulfill his wish by granting the human a wish....until he comes for payment after the human's wish is fulfilled.
Really! I agree
@@northernalpine4350 so Nocturne can suck Fiddle dry and all that will remain is some sticks
Incredible work
Ever since riot released Aurelion Sol, I’ve been saying they need to update Nocturn’s whispy little tail.
Also this concept for his passive is legit 10/10 (even if it’s a little lack luster for laning Noct)
@@BaaadJuju yes very true I believe the W should have something that fills that power lack for lane - a great skill tool would fit there!
It could be something like Senna E, but stationary and that it makes invisible also minions/monsters (not the dragon or the baron tho) unless you go inside the area.
I think it would make it harder for the enemy jungler to invade him and it's a good compromise for losing the aoe dmg of the older passive.
The problem is that he would be really oppressive in a winning lane tho since he can hide the cannons and make it harder to last hit 🤔
The old zed x nocturne theories are coming back with this one 🔥
Well done bro
Hell yeah! I’m all down for that 😄😁🤜🤛
tbh I could imagine nocturne somehow tought zed how to use shadow magic, I know zed found like a scroll of it or idk, but I'd still want to know how he learned to master it
@@motafu1 I think the old theory was that Zed either became nocturne or let him free when he opened the scroll and learnt the shadow magic
the song feels like smth straight out of a creepy the witcher 3 mission
its amazing, good job
Fiddlesticks got some competition. Nice work! Maybe for his W instead of a spellshield he becomes sort of "one with the shadows" intangible?
Yeah Fiddlestick is a ten king Nocturne basically like Fiddlestick grand son.
I was thinking something similar but maybe like akalis smoke ring but instead it the whole area like the size of vlads sanguine pool and while hes in it he cant be CC'd, itl be a cast on self n only lasts a couple seconds but i think it fits that your not able to stun of knock up or whatever your nightmare,
Great ideas 🙌 I think I make new post with visualizations
i agree, but the mist concept would prob need rethinking if he were to do that.
7:25 - literally goosebumps until the end. The artwork and Theme Song both fit so well together. Good job guys ! 😁
Nocturne's W feels like a good opportunity to play with the idea of someone trying to fight back against their nightmare but not being able to actually hurt it and the fear that come with feeling weaker than you thought you were. Nocturne could turn incorporeal so that nothing can hurt him for a short period of time (1 second maybe). If an enemy champion were to attack Nocturne in this state, Nocturne inflicks weaken debuff (enemies do less damage to you and allies) to the enemy to emulate the feeling of powerlessness people have when having a nightmare. That feeling of not being able to run as fast as you think you should or hit as hard as you know you should. Great job on the Nocturne rework!
Very great direction, I actually made a half desolved form of his model 😃 I was just afraid that it’s so much like the old duskblade effect, but maybe I should have thought further! Great take!
"Nothing can hurt" / Invulnable is broken, Unstopable is broken, Spellshield is lame, and we're playing Champions vs Champions here, not vs random minion, so it should be like:
For a sec or more, he gets dmg reduction, self disarmed, and a spell-thornmail "weaken" deflect. I think that's enough.
It's an OP defense nontheless. The best you could do is CC him but your carries shouldn't hit him at all.
@@Rhyolite-hyena I actually made a comment that gives an idea to something similar. He should sacrifice a percentage of his HP and he turns into a shadow that gives movespeed and can conceal allies. Similar to Akali's W, but much smaller in scale.
Ornn has his unstoppable walk and breath fire, that can counter cc, while also has potiental to do damage.
@@Arthis_ play on the idea of sleep paralysis, that will take a while so be patient with me and tell me what you think of this idea
he engulfes himself in shadows for 1.5 seconds deflecting auto attacks for the first second and during the last half second the shadows thickens and grows spikes to block the next ability fired at him, and if Nocturne manages to block an ability then we have 2 scenarios :
1- the traget is effected by the Q when Nocturne blocked the ability: the target gets sleep "paralyzed" for 2 sec but attacking the traget or using the W on him , breaks the effect short immedialty and the debuff is replaced by another "Fear Shock" the target next movement command is switched to a random direction than the one pressed. Ex ( you click right, your character moves left XD)
Note: CC abilities ( of all kinds even knock ups) on Paralyzed targets will lose their effect, and will only trigger "Fear Shock" kinda like how breaking Zoe sleep bubble does.
2- the target isn't effected by the Q : the target is slowed by a percentage
breaking down the ability:
( first scenario put skills expression on the W and the whole kit now you have to time your Q and W just right to get the full effect, it also gives a counter play for the enemy by avoiding the Q to deny Nocturne the effect or to not attack him during his W duration), the add of the "Shock" part also makes sure that he won't have too much chain CC on the same target which can be frustarting it also adds another skillfull aspect to him (for example you can now Palarize a target then then E another for a strategical move)
( the second scenario is a huge nerf becasue with this we can reward good nocturne players for mastering their champion and gives a satisfaction feeling when you pull the empowered W rather than this slow version that is kinda lame compared to Paralyzing your target)
i also added an abouns effect so Nocturne stores the damage of the attakcs fired at him during the W then after the effects ends it creates a shockwave that slightly pushes everyone inside the vision range but his target by 2 teemo untis away and slowes them for a percentage of the damage blocked by the W capped at 20% slow( this effect happens in both scenarios), this will give him a window to carry out the stragtey of Palaryzing one and E another near)
This is just amazing! I love this concept SO much, and the music was so on point. It gave me the chills whilst also being so lore accurate and beautiful.
This is the coolest shit ever, please keep it up.
Doing our best 🫶🫶🫶
The way you can communicate so much in your drawings using only black and white is unbelievably impressive
the theme song goes crazyyy🔥
Holy hell this is amazing! I must say, that you NEED to make another monster design using some of the concept art for this. It's wonderful
Your work should be recognized by Riot, all your projects are amazing, I believe you could bring old players back to the game, I love your work, keep it up ❤
@@matheusvieirademorais1568 thank you so much I would love to give them full access to the visuals to finally see this demon realized in a proper state!
U deserve to be the new champions rework supervisor man. The concept is incredible. I loved it.
Props to the Artists! this is what i feel like what Nocturne should be like when he recieves a VGU. everything design-wise and his theme, fits his nightmare-inducing motifs.
I am glad i found this channel, everything is wonderful!
Really happy about the praise thank you so much for your kind words 🫶
7:57 this really made me miss back in the day when we got the newest champion theme in the login screen.
i really love how you didnt make him more human and instead leaned on the horror aspect. I really like the monster/horror champions
12:25 The whispers are inspired from Dune, the Bene Gesserit theme composed by Hans Zimmer. With Dune being as popular as it is, a cinematic masterpiece as well as having an incredible music score, it's hard to believe you haven't seen it and haven't heard the exact same track, and therefore harder to believe your inspiration was a random thought of genius. If anyone listens to the first 30 seconds of that piece, the whispers line up almost exactly the same, same pitch of whisper, same rhythm, same pronunciation. Give credit where credit is due.
W - Veil of Sleepless Night, Nocturn spreads his shadows around himself, making him camouflaged, any opponent who enters him briefly receives near sight. So ability for 1v1 opponents, others who aren't in him cant see him and those who are in him cant see others.
I said camouflaged, but I meant more like Gwen's shroud but moves with him, and it doesn't make him untargetable, so skill shots still can hit him but makes HIM invisible but not the surrounding shadows, and only when you went into the shadows you can like AA him etc. but then you can't see around you. When I'm writing this, I just realized it is very similar to Senna but not the same, and fits the character well I think.
I think that another great direction asking myself if I should make a video showing the different w ideas! 💡
Senna E but only for you but enemies that enter the ring becomes near sighted to everything outside is genius. It fits nocturne perfectly and it adds a near sight effect to his basic abilties which I think is a good idea, because it really emphasizes Nocturne has THE near sight champion that creeps, haunts and stalks you until you die from him or the paranoia that he is coming for you.
I say kick it up another notch and make it so allies to the enemy that is inside your ring of fog cannot see their ally that is inside either, making them untargetable for their allies. Meaning enchanters can't point and click to heal them, kayle can't ult them, ect. Nothing can save you from nocturne when you are alone with him.
@@kissuri9344 It seem kinda, weak?
Like you can just go in the shroud and kill him, while Gwen get's bonus defensive attributes and the untargetability allows her to dodge stuff like Riven's Wind Slash (R2) or Sett's Haymaker (W). This ability seem like you'll get like 2 or 3 extra autos in which I don't know how much it will heal against a Morde, Urgot or Rengar with his overpowered Battle Roars (W).
I would say this ability would be good in team fights because it will make it easier for your team mates to kill them.
@@darkbribe777 Huh, I guess it could make for a good ganking tool against squishies now that I think about it.
Actual goosebumps on the theme! The whispering and the increasing intensity made it feel like something was crawling from the abyss into reality with a tremendous aura!
The theme goes crazy! The whispering is genius. And the crazy sax!
Edit: Ah, so we're playing Silent Hill when Nocturne is on the enemy team, got it!
Edit 2: This is crazy good! Even the skins are crazy good! Thank you everyone for this hardwork, it looks amazing!
@@njabulosithole1795 thanks so much! Those are some amesome words very beautiful to see him being received so well 🥳🙌
I love the fact that you can clearly see the evolution of quality in the videos themselves and the production value with each new video drop.
lovely stuff 👏
Su tema,diseño,los conceptos son ufffff increible,10/10
Apoyemos estas ideas y a sus creadores.
Thank so much my man!🙌
i just saw this masterpiece that you created guys, and is stunning. Desing, Music, Lore, playstyle. You guys did 10000 times better than RIOT Games.
Im playing LOL since Diana was released, i remember the Login Screen, the Music, the Feeling of playing a New Champion, the Feeling of knowing a new history. When everything was more simple but more consistent. Its just sad how RIOT Games leaved aside good stories and good designs for a more "Friendly", POP and accesibles champs. They just turned into the Kawai- stylized- Anime stetic for every single New Champion (with a few exceptions). And for me, to watched this, was so refreshing and nostalgic, specially for the Music and the art. Thank you so much for giving a trip to my Adolescence.
Amazing It reminds me to the Watcher of Darksiders 1 ! And the song a little to the Bene Gesserit theme 😮
Thank you - yeah Noah is a super awesome 😃🙌 to many more!
@@Arthis_ i like Nocturne for Ionia since Evelynn and Fiddle are in Demacia
Nocturne Ws could be
Nocturne can't attack but transform into untargetable smoke with a bost in speed like his shield
Or literally the ability of enter the Spirit realm has the Bunny champion 😂, turns into true invisible for a seconds and he cant attack until ends the cast
Absolut fitting ideas very good! 😃 yes if he could become ionias greatest threat
THIS IS SO AWESOME!
I wanted to talk more about the theme. The music feels so fitting. The growing anticipation and dread, the sound of something ancient (almost reminded me of something Sumerian in origin), the foreboding whisper. The start sounded like if you've accidentally stepped into an abandoned city, where even critters seem to be none existent. Something swampy perhaps, definitely foggy.
I think Noah really hit it with the theme. Amazing honestly.
I feel like a good ability for his W could be something similar to vlad pool. He can't cast anything through it - because, of course, nightmares cant hurt you, right? - but his E channel would stay tethered.
That a great take, I think I saw it in the comments during the watchalong but either way that’s an awesome idea!
I love how you made Nocturne´s secondary color blue, mostly because it not only matches Kayn in his base and Shadow Assassin form, another shadow magic user, but it also gives a fascinating implication about him lore-wise. Since the Shadows Assassin is the epitome of what Kayn could be if he completely dominated the shadows, his blue colors could indicate that he is not so far from becoming something akin to Nocturne. Don't think it brings much to the table, but I really like Kayn and it's a nice detail that I noticed.
Amazing work as always, and I loved the theme Noah composed.
For his ult and W, same W. When he casts R he reflects the next cc he is hit with to a champion, but can onlt reflect the cc not the dmg. And the cc can only be applied to who cast it, so ashe r will only stun ashe. And it cant be procced on a champion if they have been feared by his e before. And it scales based of his w like 1/1/2/2/3. To incentivize maxing W in high cc comps. Like stated earlier can only cc the person who cast it like they cant escape their own fears and teammates cant troll you, and say W is maxed and can reflect 3 CC’s there is a limit to once per champion
Holy crap the redesign, the music, the splash art?? This is all so great. You guys did a fantastic job.
Riot could just straight up use this at this point, this is awesome
True, but then they'd have to develop a contract, and most likely pay royalties, something I don't think Tencent would be jazzed about.
@@patrickcarter2829 yeah you right
@@patrickcarter2829 Very true that's most likely a problem but tbh :D I would give it to them for an internship no questions asked😄
@@Arthis_ fair enough, although, you'd still have to be credited.
I don"t usually comment but WOW !
THIS is what i expect from riot, once again YOU did it.
Thank you
Your videos, art and music are inspiring and of such high quality! I love this channel
I've also edited a few videos and created spotify playlists to League and this song is so incredibly fitting and unique, I've added it straight through.
Keep up the good work, looking forward to your future projects 💯🔥
@@mars2012 Thank you Mars this means so much! As you’ve edited a few videos you probably know how much energy goes into creating the these passion projects 🥹 it’s unbelievable beautiful to see them recognized so well 🫶 thank you so much again and to many many more🙌
@@Arthis_ It would be so cool if there really was that much creativity in the game again. It almost makes me sad what could be if you didn't just rely on quantity, simplicity and money. Like this... this is how it should be done...
I'm for sure going to make a fanart of this community project, excited for this.
W Idea: ((Sorry, it's a long one.))
Itemization - Tiamat sounds like it'd be a bread&butter item for him early, since he can benefit from any of it's finished forms. Ravenous for ad/lifesteal, Profane for arpen/snowballing, Titanic for hp/tankyness, Stridebreaker for extra CC/as/E syngery. Black Cleaver probably wouldn't be bad or Sterak's if he needs it. And of course all the lethality items. Which is kinda exactly what we want(great job!), so we'll want to avoid making his W syngergize with Tank or Mage items.
Role - His kit and definitely his ult will probably encourage roaming(which Junglers do) or staying near the center of the map, making me think he could possibly off-role as a Mid. Despite the fact that people will probably get baited into Top because of his Fighter'y stats. As he wouldn't benefit from his Q or R as much against champs who want to sit there and trade extensively. However this means that he'll most likely be vulnerable to other Fighter, Invade, Engage type of champions. That coupled with the fact that we want to counter Squishy, Disengage, types who have a decent amount of CC. And we can see why Riot probably made his W the way they did originally. An ability that can double as an option to punch through CC to get to your target or shrug it off and get away from their Lee Si- err Engagers. But we also don't want to just remake or keep the same ability. And in team fights we have a point-and-click engage to their back line, however after the target is dead we can quickly become surrounded or focused on. So our best bet at covering all these bases is some kind of Utility, and without it being too hard of a counter to our counters.
Gameplay - Assuming so far that we don't want to make his W too Defensive and the fact that it has a few holes to plug. It's most likely not going to be a traditional Offensive ability that you'll be spamming either. Which means that there is going to be a lot of auto attacking. And as a Jungler this puts the heavy lifting on his Passive in terms of jungle clearing. He'll also be roaming a lot, ganking, securing river objectives and scouting/invading. But his mobility is going to be situational, focused around fights, however this could work in our favor. Being a demon of nightmares or darkness, we could embrace the slow and constant pressure of what creeps in the unknown.
W: Phantasmagoria
Cost: 80/85/90/95/100 Mana
Cooldown: 18/16/14/12/10
Passive: Nocturne plants a seed of doubt into his victim's mind. When a Champion or Monster is hit by Phantasmagoria they recieves a mark of Doubt. The mark lasts 6s, empowering the next Nocturne ability that hits them. Additionally, if the mark is consumed while Nocturne is unseen by the target, the mark will spread to the next 2 closest viable targets(up to 600units away).
Active: Nocturne instills confusion and hesitancy in all.
Tap: A mimicry of Duskbringer lashes out, dealing no damage on it's own but will still cause enemies hit by it to leave a trail of shadows, however the shadows do not provide Nocturne with increased movement speed.
Hold: An illusion of Unspeakable Horror reaches out and attaches itself like the real ability would, including revealing the area, however it deals no damage, will not bind the target nor give Nocturne a movement speed buff.
Empowered Ability Effects:
Monsters: A mark of Doubt consumed from a Monster will cause abilities to deal increased damage and provide some health regen for 4s.
Umbra Blades: If Doubt is consumed by Umbra Blades it will reduce the cooldown of Phantasmagoria by 25%.
Duskbringer: Doubt consumed by Duskbringer will also cause the shadows to empower Nocturne with 30% Tenacity.
Unspeakable Horror: When Unspeakable Horror consumes Doubt, the enemy that was afflicted by it is in turn Grounded for 2s.
Paranoia: Doubt that is consumed by Paranoia is turned into Creeping Certainty. Creeping Certainty lasts for 3s and allows for any damage done by Nocturne that brings a target to or below 6% health to be Executed.
Obviously the numbers could probably use some work or shifting, but the idea here, beyond letting Nocturne do more Nocturne things, is to give the player some creative outplay potenntial. Since we were avoiding encouraging Tanky'ness and not copy the current W, I figured that it would be interesting and in line with Nocturne's theme to be a bit more deceptive. If you're maybe trying to escape an invade, turning and faking an E could cause them to back off long enough to gain some distance. While still keeping your E ready for if that didn't work. Or if you do have to run out in the open for a gank, it can maybe bait out a Flash or an escape. And if it does hit, makes them more vulnerable. With the spreading mechanic it also still encourages ambushing, striking from bushes or utilizing game knowledge to know when you are in or out of line of sight. As well as it providing some synergy with other champions, like Quinn, Senna, Graves, etc. And it makes it not feel as bad if you have to Ult the carry from 100units away. Lol.
Daaaamn thank you for all the effort! I will definitely keep that in mind! 🫶 riot August said he wanted to make a change to his w when he reworks it I think I make a post about different versions and try to somehow get it to be seen by rioters, not to make their job but to have some insight into what the community would like to see 😃
I will say there is an extremely underplayed variant that is the style of gameplay that made me fall in love with him as my main back in season 9, and that is Attack Speed Lifesteal nocturne. back in the day, the build was AS jungle item, Sanguine Blade, Bork, then kinda whatever you needed after that. you took lethal tempo and slash your enemies to death with tons of passive procs, tons of healing, and fantastic chase. id love to see a world again where the AS Assassin can come back as he once was
2:57 Nocturne with a 9mm
I just wanted to let you know that what you did here is absolutely incredible, and I'm so proud of the result! I cannot believe the amount of work that went into this project. But you created a masterpiece of a video that was entertaining and amazing from start to finish! Amazing job, thank you ✨
Here is an idea for his W.
“Fears made flesh”
Nocturne gains damage reduction for a short duration. During this time any attacks that hit him cause a spectral duplicate of himself to spawn and dash at the attacker, hitting for a percentage of Nocturne’s auto attack and applying a stacking slow.
This would help him chase down ranged champs and give him survivability for both lethality and bruiser builds.
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This doesn't stop him from getting CC'd.
@@RuneKatashimai think it will made Nocturne super broken
@@fishingrodgaming7140 Unfortunately due to his trail design he needs a way to prevent CC altogether.
@@RuneKatashima yea the design of his kit kinda suck and boring
W skill can be manipulate and can get inside the enemys head so its overpowered but must be used with with E i think and also magnificent work man Nocturne needs this !! ❣️
That theme kicks ass. Reminds me of Sakuzyo, someone who makes similar sounding music.
With those skins you made some of them could be considered canon given the region. Since Nocturne is a living nightmare, for all the folklore they heard about monsters, Nocturne changes to their appearance to those folklore monsters. Frostbite for Frelijord, Hextech for Piltover, Void for Shurimia, Old God for Ionia and his default appearance is that of Demacia.
The design is definitely an upgrade, but I feel like the kit still needs a bit more, otherwise he would end up like Skarner, and become forgotten again after a few months
@@pwpqwq7648 understand to point! I believe the w is most likely to point to target that something that makes him worth replaying!
@@Arthis_besides his w I think that all of his abilities need something extra. Maybe his q letting him go through walls or smth.
And make his ult create fake versions of himself so enemies think that nocturne is going to jump on them but instead he chose another enemy champion
@@Arthis_ August said that Nocturne is the most popular champion among new players, yet they drop him, due to how boring his kit is.
I'd love you to revision his kit with that in mind, maybe going into sleep hallucinations theme and for example make Nocturne cause sleep hallucinations where player sees many nocturnes and nocturne himself controls few copies of himself, so player is always kept guessing which one is the real one until it's too late.
Imagine seeing 6 Nocturnes and now knowing which one is which.
@@chayker6145 Old ideas from 2015. Bad then, bad now. It's like thought hasn't evolved in 9 years.
@@cloudson3886 I made a post years ago about why this is and Vedius agrees with me, among pretty much everyone else who plays Nocturne. He does not reward skill expression. Getting a measly 20-40% attack speed boost for successfully blocking a spell isn't good enough. You'd think blocking a spell is it's own reward but remember that his power budget is taking up that spell slot too.
He's also susceptible to the highly mobile flashy champions, and he's often punished just for using his ult (this is mostly a skill issue but it's a hard and not obvious learning curve).
He's a **terrible** champion to try and climb with.
bro was so tired of waiting for a rework so he did it himself
what a chad
Ara ara. 🙀
👻 🙌🙌😄
Damn, he's given riot his full plate. What an amazing job, man!
Insane rework, including theme and all you guys put a lot of hard work and it shows. I would love to see your take on Malphite
I'm speechless! This is so well done!
As a nocturne otp, this is absolutely the coolest, well designed fan project I've ever fricken seen!!!!! Wonderful job my friend 🙏
Riot - PLEASE HIRE THEM.
What a phenomenal concept. Superb work and amazing job to you and everyone who worked with you.
I think the only opinion I hold is some slight adjustments to his Q and an idea for his W. I reckon for his Q, it works almost the exact same way but instead of slashing it downwards, he slashes it upwards, and 0.5 (or however short/long after) the shadows crawl forward and if a champion is hit by it, they get slowed by a certain amount if at the edges but if hit within the 900 unit range, they get feared by like 0.25 and walk towards you almost like he's appearing to them as a light in the dark tunnel, rather than the nightmare demon he is. Kinda like how angler fish work to lure in their prey.
For his W, I reckon the spell shield block should stick, but instead of just a spell shield, perhaps he could cloak himself in shadows which will buff his passive to instead of 200 units, instead he'll only appear visible within 100 units and is able to block vision items such as the blue orb, and normal wards. Pink wards still work effectively. This will either last until it expires within a set amount of time, gets hit by a spell, or he gets spotted by a control ward.
In doing so, it'll keep the spirit of his old W but make it have a touch more utility and give him that slight increase in skill expression as if his ult is down, his W can be used as a way to gap close on an enemy (but will still give indicators Ala his passive shadow creeping in), or it can be used to navigate around the enemy jng for a gank if they don't do a good job at warding but if used too early, too often or just a touch late in a valuable dive, teamfight or objective push, it'll remove one of his key abilities to navigate around a fight without ult and even with ult, it'll prevent him from becoming too effective if used willy-nilly.
W ideas below the annoying paragraph.
My take on his W would include some movement since that’s always how he’s portrayed in cinematics and lore, and since his gameplay right now boils down to goofily chasing champions in a game where everything and their mother slows you making fights without your ult turn into 10 seconds of “hehe you can’t catch me!” That said I have two ideas (the first one probably works better, but I like the second one).
W:
“Your own shadow betrays you”
Enter a nightmare state for two seconds, granting Nocturne bonus movement speed on dusk trails and a recast on this ability. When recast, Nocturne gains a spell shield that negates the next ability that would affect him. If the spell shield’s effect is consumed by an enemy that currently has a dusk trail, nocturne will blink behind them (to their own shadow) and refresh the dusk trails duration. If the target was also affected by unspeakable horror, the damage and fear procs instantly upon Nocturnes arrival.
W: HE’S IN THE GODDAMN WALLS
“The moment you cannot see me, I am everywhere”
Can only be activated when Nocturne is on a dusk trail. Nocturne sinks into the ground becoming one with the shadows. For the next 2.5 seconds he cannot be seen or targeted by enemies and gains 200% movement speed, but cannot use abilities or move outside of dusk trails (can move through terrain?). When used, enemies within the abilities range become paranoid, causing the next damage they receive from Nocturne to silence them for 0.5 seconds and reduce their armor. If Nocturne is untargetable during this time, the silence becomes a fear instead.
Dude this is suck. I’ve ready like twenty of these and this is def my favorite. Hope people see this.
You guys killed it with this redesign and really captured the identity of what Nocturne represents and brought him into modern form. Its videos like this and NickyBoi's Cassiopeia redesign that I kinda wish Riot would focus more on older champs and revamp them. A lot of good stuff is being shown here and just think about the possibilities for champs like Shaco and Cho'Gath getting a new look. Keep up the amazing work 🔥
I LOVED the idea of the candles on his back and them slowly lighting up as his ult charges back, and thought about if this could be a base skin idea. What if the eyes on his back,when his ult is on cooldown, close one-by-one (like they're drifting back to sleep) until you're shocked awake by a paranoid nightmare and the eyes open immediately once he ults?
Crazy, I love what you guys have put together! Would have also loved a short video of the instruments being played :D
wow wow wow
no words really, incredible work
I have never played nocturne in my 8 years in league, but I would consider rerolling just for the design, crazy
WOW I am in love with this design, good job! I love his venom-esque look, the creepy arms on the back that get enhanced when he ults, and the spooky nasty legs!!!
Also the music was great. I really liked how the whispers kind of sound like drum hi-hats and cymbals. Really great job to Noah aswell!
I have an idea for W. "W-Exit Light: Nocturne activates a shadowy spell shield that blocks the first enemy ability. If hard CC or a Slow is blocked, Nocturne becomes temporarily invisible and the champion whose ability was blocked becomes drowsy. W(recast)-Enter Night: Nocturne blinks on top of the asleep champion and deals Magic Damage based on missing health." If you are low and nocturne is chasing you down, don't try and slow him down, JUST. RUN.
Me encanta que conservaran la escencia de su kit original, lo considero muy bueno para aprender a jugar lol, ademas que lo reinventaron de una manera sana manteniendo la tematica de "cortar en pedazos a sus victimas" con sus oscuras cuchillas que es algo iconico en nocturne. Muy bien pensado el rework 10/10
This rework idea is sick '-' The appearance, the music. Great work.
The W could be something linked to the fog of war as of the passive idea: While active shrowds himself and any enemy bind by his Q in fog of war for a few seconds while also providing defenses agains attackers who can not see him (appart from the ones affected by his Q).
You did an amazing work here. I'd love to see Riot reach out to you to develop and lead the Nocturne rework.
Awesome rework!! Nocturne used to be my main!
My idea for W rework: all his arms extend and start covering himself. If it blocks an ability, an small area under him explodes into darkness, mechanically acting like a bush. Enemy outside the field can't see Nocturne or their allies who are inside the field. Within this field of darkness, Nocturne gains some buff. For every extra enemy in the field, he becomes scarier.
Hope this sparks some more ideas. It's mechanically about the same with some extra bonus but still matching his theme of darkness and malice.
@@fluffyfood super cool idea! I will definitely do some visuals for something like that 😃 when I make a video about his potential w! And ty for the 2 🥳🫶
When the theme actually makes you shiver 🤌
I am FLABBERGASTED by this entire video, the way you guys COOKED with the concepts, the final design, splash, song, Jesus Christ 🗣🗣🗣
As you asked in the video, about his w spell, we can think about a shadowy form, something which turns him into a gaseous state, makes him untouchable for 1 up to 1,5 seconds. During that time, you can't be hit by basic attacks. Spells damage are reduced by 50%, or crowd control are nullified. If the theme of the champion is to provoke fear, this could really be in that line.
Yes very good take!
Just wanted to say you are amazing at this, your concepts are just insane and feel so fitting to the lore
a change id make to the ultimate is when he activates it, everyone gets an image of nocturne running at them, a horrifying paranoia that is induced on every summoner, I feel like it'd increase the horror global presence aspect besides just being nearsighted, of course only one summoner is actually targeted, the one you choose, but the idea of "no one is safe" being capitalized on and inducing fear of knowing if the image flying at you is the real nightmare just feels like so much more of a spine chill
I was getting goosebumps with those whisper vocals, and it fits nocturne really well with his character of a nightmare-ish champ
The effort you guys put into this is INSANE, you’re so good that i have to PLEAD with you. Please consider trying to make Ledros, from LOR and the ruination novel, he’s such a good character and im sad that riot still hasn’t given him his due. I’d love to see your take on him.
I want this in game so badly. Its just perfect, the theme, the design everything.
🫶 thank you 🥹
Yo bro I literally got goosebumps before the song even started to hit with the voices, it's pretty sick!!!!
I love this interpretation of Nocturne, he's so menacing and powerful in this design. You can really imagine this Nocturne finding Lillia's Mother Tree and filling it with nightmares only for Yone to come in last second before an epic battle ensues.
That’s a story I would read!
I love with the ultimate you were able to incorporate a bunch of earlier concepts into your final design. As someone who is studying to be an artist, it’s always sad to see previous designs go, but you being able to take over four different previous looks is so amazing. You’re truly one of the most talented league designers ever!
Incredible, love your work man. The ULT IS AMAZING, the way that he can grow and morph into a monster is so genius. Can't wait to see your next project.
Never really sat down to think of a kit for it but I always had an idea that Nocturne could select an enemy and nerf their fog of war distance as part of his ultimate, showing a "vision" ring around them and the longer Nocturne would spend in that ring between vision and the fog the more points it would feed to his Darkness, early game giving movespeed when exiting the ring, mid game becoming the dash toward the target we currently have and once fully stacked nerfing the vision of every enemy near Nocturne. Kind of like Myers' stalking mechanic from DBD, rewarding being a creep.
This community project is better than anything Riot released in the last 7 year. You guy are incredibly talented
@@angnguyenkhoa5093 thank you so much! 🙌
Amazing work, the music in particular reminds me a lot of the Bene Gesserit songs that were present in the Dune movie. Spectacular concepts all around with the redesign of Nocturne.
This is amazing. I wish he looked like this in the game. Lol, take notes. And the music OMG if gives me Fiddlesticks vibes but even more unsettling, we're Fiddlesticks is screaming, and jump scares nocturn is creepy and uneasy . it fits the redesign so well. You guys did fantastic work 👏 man I needed this nocturn, which is one of my favorite champions, You guys captured exactly what i've been craving.
Maybe for W when you activate it you truly become a shadow and all projectiles can't hit you, instead they went through you and pass you. And for each projectile that went pass you, you attack speed increases? You become untargetable for projectiles.
holy ****, this is so amazing, the amount of creativity in this is gorgeous, you guys made something amazing and i am hoping and begging this gets more traction so riot actually does something to make this vision a reality, cause wow I want this in game. You guys absolutely nailed it!
I have added the theme to my playlist, it hits SO hard, I'm in love. would describe more, but listening to it gives a different feeling each time, don't know if it was intentional, but I feel like focusing on separate parts of the music just gives a deeper impression for each listen.
Just a personal take, i feel like instead of legs running at you, you could instead make the floor like a mirror, keep him floating above it, but make like splashes of shadows for the impact of something running at you while still keeping the floating nightmare demon vibe, something like water splashes but just darker and maybe with more of a sticky ink kind of feel.
For his W, i feel like something akin to Vladimir puddle and enhanced Kai'sa (enhanced) supercharge, would be appropriate, something that appears from the shadows, making him briefly invisible or un-targetable, and kind of like slipping into the spirit realm, and you can add this to the theme of the legs I talked about, and make it so he appears under the ground like a mirror, maybe giving him a stat boost like the attack speed of his current W.
this is awesome the BGM added some eeriness and unsettling ambience I love it even more with the vocals doing a chant
these are so amazing, I like the designs that look less like the reaper and more like a nightmare
Ayo, the music did NOT have to go that hard! Great job!
Only thing I think personally could be cool for nocturne, to really sell the nightmare theme, could be for him to have a sleep ability. And perhaps a passive that allows nocturne to deal bonus damage to a sleeping target and if this procs they are then feared for a duration when they wake up. It would give him some unique synergy with other champs that utilise sleep and would play into the nightmare fantasy more so than fiddle stick's fear only one.
To be clear though, I love what you've done with the champ and it's a massive improvement on the current one! I'd love to see what you could pull off with some of the other older champions 👌
My idea for the W ability is a domed shaped cloud of darkness that Nocturne conjures around him. The old name stays (Shroud of Darkness) since it fits with the ability. All champions and minions that are inside the dome can only see whats inside and cannot see what is outside. The same is true for anyone outside the dome, they cannot see inside it. Abilities can still go through.
Now Nocturne can gain maybe an attack speed increase while he is inside or his attacks slow the target up to a point, or both. It would probably be used in combination with his R, E, Q combo and it can give Nocturne some pseudo protection so he can dispatch his foe with little interruption.
Now the size of the dome can be a bit tricky since the bigger it is, more champs are in it and you can be interrupted with point and click CC, or you can annihilate the opposing team with your in-shround bonuses. Making it small takes all of the guess work out of the equation where Nocturne could be and the target can more easily escape.
I think its an ability that has very good upside and downside depending on how well you use it. Maybe you can bait people into the shroud and then turn with an ally or cut of important choke points preventing ADCs to aa you while you get a kill, etc.
The theme song definetly had some fiddlesticks theme inspiration in it i can just feel it, and i love it!
Absolutely fantastic work!! I love the new design, theme as well as his potential lore ties to other champion. One idea I find worth exploring is giving him some Sleep mechanic in his gameplay like mb his E is an aura that after some time puts every enemy champions around to sleep as well as his other abilities having unique effects when attacking sleeping champions (or just simply dealing bonus dmg + it would be kinda fun for him to have some interactions with other Sleep champions like Zoe or Lillia). His W could be like diving inside a sleeping champion making himself untargetable for a short duration and casting fear when exiting out. Basically making him different from Fiddlesticks by giving him a unique way to interact with champions and fear mechanics.
But still I love your design and vision and can only hope to see it come to live in future.😍
Amazing work. Everything is jsut so good and creative, I can't even start to gather words to describe how impressed I am
Everything on this video is so magnificently creative!
How I would redesign Nocturnes W:
On activation, poof into an ethereal state that you cannot move during, at the end of that duration, teleport a set short distance (scaling with move speed). While ethereal, you project a dark shadow around you (out to teleport range) thats visible if you were visible at the start of the cast point
Damn a cool idea!
I think his W can be like hide in a shadow that dodge skills,and provide decent amount of moving speed,passive stay giving attack speed
omg the visuals the theme everything its jsut perfect riot needs these gems like you and your team
The design is super good, really love the direction you went with and especially for his additional arms
It makes it look like he's always creepily praying or scheming
But it would look better just in my opinion, if the arms were the ones coming out of his back and under his other set
Just to give the idea that it isn't as important as his actual arms
Plus it looks and feels like his actual arms are restricted
I understand where you’re coming from. Maybe it would’ve been good to actually go with a visible restriction if putting them on top like the current version. To simbolize that he was once pound and is still struggling a bit with that. But I think your version works really well!
15:28 Nocturne W idea
Norturne shroud a mist a pure nightmare and darkness for a second, blocking the first ability hit. After successful blocking an ability, for the next few seconds, his W is replaced by Nightmarish Shock.
Nightmarish Shock: Nocturne stabs and dashes foward with his blades. Dealing damage to all minions in his path, stopping at the first enemy champion hit dealing damage and granting him attack speed.
This is a very simple one I have, giving him a tool he can use to both catch up or quickly escape when being spotted.
What you have done is amazing btw! Very good art and concepts overall! Keep going