I knew he wasn’t heartless by removing a sin for pat moritas performance. The part where he reminisces about his wife and child while drunk is the most heartbreaking part of this movie
Oh man, I miss Pat Morita! He was the heart and soul of this movie. Just like Christopher Reeve as Superman, there will never be anyone better. RIP, Miyagi-San.
I can't believe that Ralph Macchio was 22 when filming the first movie. In fact, his love interest in the third film was quickly written out due to the awkward age gap between 26 year old Macchio and 16 year old Robin Lively.
Is that true though? According to what I've read, Macchio himself stated the movie shouldn't be about another love interest again because it would be more of the same and make Daniel seem like he wasn't growing up. Eh, maybe both can be true.
The mom unpacking a box before bringing them all in sin (and then further expansion about living with sealed boxes for a year until you take them to storage and never touch them again) was a such a perfect, spot on observation of human nature.
As a long time practicer of Goju Ryu karate (the style miyagi do is based on) a few fun facts: 1. Goju means hard and soft referring to the change in speed and impact of the many different techniques. this is also shown in the movie since he gets trached both hard and soft techniques (kicks/pinches and flowing moves like wax on wax off) 2. The trainings methods like wax on wax off and paint the fence are actually based around an existing kata called tensho 3. during cobrai kai when they are training on the pond they perform a kata that is actually a real one called seiunchin. 4. When the history of 'miyagi do' is shown with pictures of the old masters one of them is actually a founder and grandmaster in goju ryu Quite a long comment but hope you find it intresting if you came this far 😀
Fumio Demura was the double on the stumps crane kick scenes Pat Johnson was fight choreographer and center referee for tournament along with Steve sanders all real MA competitors
I agree and I hope that it becomes a regular thing. If you got a kick out of that, watch unnecessary censorship in Disney movies. It killed me! "Do you want to *bleep* a snowman?"
That's the one part that Cobra Kai Series Retcons. In Karate Kid Movie Johnny was rich yet took Karate lessons from a dojo in the ghetto. As the tournament goes on Johnny notices how messed up his sensai is and by end of fight with La Russo he has a new heart and has the "You're alright La Russo" moment. Add in the parking lot scene at start of Karate Kid 2 and Johnny leaves Cobra Kai to his rich life and a better quality life leaving the Cobra Kai evil teachings behind. It's then time for Cobra Kai series, and at start of first episode we see after Johnny gets crane kicked he stays laying facedown on ground (compared to movie where he scoots to side of ring then gets up ready to hand La Russo the trophy). In Cobra Kai opening he also stays laying on the ground until he wakes up in that position 33 years later in his bed. Result is he's poor and down on his luck, miserable in life, and still hating on La Russo over the Fight.
@@bobapjok4241 Not a plothole. He realized he was an idiot and the teacher is a dick. Then, the guy almost fucking kills him, calling him a loser. Then he sees the other guy's teacher pwn his own in like 3 seconds. He's without a teacher, friends, and even his girl left him for that guy. THAT is how he starts resenting him.
I love how Daniel and Miyagi developed a parental relationship throughout the movie. They're both grieving for their deceased loved ones, but manage to find kinship in each other.
Bro this vid was posted 30 min ago and you commented 26 min ago… You didn’t even watch the whole vid before commenting. Now I know how people end up getting the most likes with the simplest of comments. I guess you just have to literally comment right after the video is posted so everyone can see it!
Definitely not wrong, stuff like Back To The Future, The Outsiders, Stand By Me, Neverending Story, and The Goonies come to mind. Stranger Things too if throwbacks count, haha
Johnny could have pulled a glock out of his gi and shot Daniel in the kneecap and the judges would have given him a point. That's how the rules work for bad guys in movies.
Kicks to the face don’t count for points, except for earlier when Dutch kicks Daniel in the face for a point. Fun fact - Darryl Vidal was a first degree black belt at the time and now is a 10th degree, plus he did some stunt stand-ins during the film. So, yes, he actually was the best around.
Johnny gets a double tap kick to the face point in an earlier fight too. So unless he got in that kick as a free after the fight blow, he too got a face contact point.
Lucille was supposed to have a job at Rocket Computers (It's up and coming) but they folded during the time it took her and Daniel to drive across the country. Her waitressing job was a fall back. As clearly stated in the movie.
fire the subtitle guy too, at one point Daniel is referred to as "Caruso" and Kreese is spelled "Krese". i mean if we wanna nitpick fine Cinemasins i'll sweep that leg all day.
I had this happen to me. Had the job, they knew I was coming, but between leaving one state and arriving in another, the company folded. I left on a Friday morning and got a call early Monday morning that there wasn’t a job offer anymore. I ended up taking a per diem job at a hospital walking guests/patients to locations in the hospital as well as running errands for all departments. I lost a lost of money, but I eventually got a full time job in surgery and made it all back and then some. Really creepy part was the reason the first job fell through. The guy who hired me got caught beating and r@ping his wife. I had met him before the move and there wasn’t any signs he was a psycho (there usually aren’t with the super creepy ones). He ended up killing himself before his trial. He was out on bail and drank a bunch of mercury before hanging himself in his garage.
@@GhostDrummer I knew a guy who decided to give up on America and move to Portugal where he could continue working his job virtually and live much better on his income. He sold his house & most of his belongings and boarded his flight in Portland, Oregon. By the time he landed in New York to catch his connecting flight, Portugal had shut down their boarders due to COVID.
0:55 I say: Absolutely yes! It helps develop the character of Daniel by showing us a glimpse of where he grew up, and how popular he was with his peers there.
The bit about why the karate master would hang a picture of them with machine gun made me laugh. Come on man it was the 80s. Didn't you know all karate people of that time were either ninjas or navy seals.
Green Berets, but civilians can't tell the difference. That was the point of the picture, though, as Green Beret instantly meant badass and had-to-hand combat skills. It also suggests his attitude about winning being a byproduct of his experiences, in Vietnam.
The end. 😂😂 “but I was going to the Toshi station to pick up some power converters!” I’m glad that I’m not the only one who thought he resembled Luke Skywalker a whole lot.
Jokes aside, for me the scene where Miyagi reveals all those chores were training his defensive reflexes is one of the most spine tingling scenes I've ever seen. Movie magic.
Bro man that scene still brings up good memories as a kid cause we all watching it were like Mr. Miyagi was using him until him saying show me. Wow great great scene.
@@B.Piercesports I LOVE it when you're a kid and so simple that good reveals in movies are like life-changing mind-blowing affairs that you never forget rofl
I've watched the movie a handful of times, but somehow never deciphered Miyagi's line "Land of the Free. Home of the Brave. But no doctor come." That scene hits even harder now.
@@dankdio2887 Mr. Miyagi's wife and child died due to complications of childbirth, as did many American citizens of Japanese ancestry. "Land of free, home of brave. No doctor come" was in reference to the fact that MANY Japanese-Americans joined the U.S. Army during the war, but hostilities back home were so heated that medical personnel refused to offer aid to anyone in the internment camps due to prejudice. So basically while these soldiers were fighting and dying for their country, their country was allowing their loved ones to suffer and die also. Oddly enough, the Medal of Honor was awarded to 21 Japanese American soldiers of the 100th Infantry Battalion and the 442nd Regimental Combat Team alone.
Ahem...some of us knew about Manzanar before 1984. It had even been somewhat visualized in the 1976 film Midway, as a subplot revolved around a Nissei love interest who has been interred, along with her parents.
@@leffew2000 On June 21, 2000. More than 50 years after the war. Only Sadao Munemori was awarded the Medal of Honor, posthumously, in 1946, during or at the conclusion of the war. They were the most decorated unit in the US Army, but, minorities were often put up for lesser awards, where white soldiers would be put up for much higher awards for lesser acts of bravery and valor. That is the shame of it.
13 year old me saw this in the movie theater, and I assure you: I did not see the menial tasks being secret training methods. The payoff was so gratifying, that Miyagi was actually a good guy all along. And that final fight? Best in-ring moment since Rocky. 50 sins removed.
@@krisblunt6293 Still doesn't explain WHY he taught Daniel that way instead of just teaching him upfront. We're not taking it for granted, we're just confused by it.
@@JustJustin. I'd like to think Miyagi was measuring his dedication and ability to take orders. However, it was never said in the movie, so that explanation can't go on record.
@@JustJustin. By assigning the menial tasks, perhaps Mr. Miyagi was testing Daniel's loyalty and devotion, while admittedly getting some chores accomplished. The repetitive nature of the actions would create muscle memory for his student. But then again, so would straightforward training. Let's just be honest and call it a clever screenwriting twist. My objection is to Cinema Sins' insistence that viewers saw this twist coming from a mile away. I (and many others) did not. The emotional payoff of the final fight was also tremendously downplayed (although to great comic effect). Peace!
What love about the line where Miyagi tells Daniel he never asked about him knowing karate is it makes it funnier when you remember what Pat Morita said in an interview. He said once he speaks very bad Japanese as well as the only karate he knows is what he learned for the movies. I can't wait for season 5 of Cobra Kai.
In Karate Kid Tournament World, kicks to the face always score points. It happens at least a few times in the "Best Around" montage, including once to Daniel. The misnomer comes in from KK3 where Daniel tells Silver during lesson 3 of the Quick Silver method "Yeah, but that's face contact, I'd be disqualified." Thing is, they're talking about a closed fist to the face, not a kick. In the KK1 final, Johnny punches Daniel in the face right before the elbow to the knee and the ref calls "No Point" before the restart. TLDR, Kicks to face okay, punches to face illegal.
18:19 Aside from being a huge This Works sin, my biggest problem with this crane kick is that he was able to land on his injured leg. He should have collapsed the moment that left foot hit the ground. Would have made way more sense for him to jump off his right leg and whip his injured leg into Johnny's head. It would hurt like hell but at least he wouldn't be resting HIS ENTIRE BODY WEIGHT on a broken leg.
107 - The reason Daniel gets up to leave in the first place is because he suddenly remembers his mom is expecting him, but he forgets all about that as soon as he gets in the car. Makes me wonder if during that whole next scene with Allie his mom is at home sitting at the table, wearing a party hat and looking at her watch.
As a former karate practitioner, everyone at my school loved Karate Kid. It got most of us into the sport, or at least was a major influence. It's also incredibly corny. The "chores as training" is supposed to represent the old school style of training that we hear in stories.
When I first watched this classic it so got me into wanting to do martial arts in my younger years. That never happened at the time, but, after a few beatings, one that put me in hospital with a serious head injuryand, nearly killed me. Also had to learn how to speak again. Plus a few more encounters after recovering. I decided to take it upon myself, now I was older. I'm now a qualified instructor and love teaching it. 4th Dan in wado ryu and 3rd Dan in Kickboxing. My wife took the ride with me and also my 3 girls. One had to drop out because of school, hoping that she rejoins in a few years. Hopefully our 4th will take part when she's old enough :)
16:06 Yeah he did that in every fricking movie. My brothers and I binged all these movies one time and every time there was a kiss scene we'd turn away and almost throw tf up
I hadn't seen it in so many years, was happy to put on a little marathon this week! Had Totally forgot about what happened to Myagis family, I remember it was a big scene in the Jackie Chan one, but was a Wow moment seeing in this again. Daniel is the son he never got to pass on his teachings to. Very cool. ❤
Funny thing is in traditional Japanese, Daniel would refer to Miyagi as Miyagi San, or Miyagi Sensei. It is unlikely that Miyagi would refer to Daniel as Daniel san.
In HS baseball as a catcher, a runner at home plate did my knee just like "sweep the leg". I never played baseball again. 15 minutes later I was still in shock from watching my leg hyperextend
Why the catcher just can't have his foot on the plate as the first baseman does for the out I have no idea...then at second and third, you ALSO have to tag the runner. Baseball is so weird.
@@danielmoore8695 -I know the rules for baseball...The Old man was a Triple AAA manager.....Im talking about crashing into the catcher and breaking legs, or other unnecessary idiot injuries that occur...ALL throws to the plate should be "touch base only" instead of tags.
It seems like you genuinely had fun with this video, Jeremy. There wasn’t much harshness or pedantic nitpicking-just good natured joshing and it was all funny and entertaining.
fun fact about warm/room temp beer; it gets you drunk faster because it metabolizes faster. Alcoholic teens like Johnny might actually drink them that way, even if its kinda gross tasting.
That, Ghostbusters, Terminator, Back to the Future, Rocky, and Star Wars are honestly, six of the best movie franchises back to date in the 70s, and 80s.
another weird thing that happens during the spaghetti incident scene is how absolutely everyone in that restaurant just stops and laughs at him. It has adults and elders in there, and they all think a kid covered in pasta is hilarious? No one even checks if he's ok :D
The Crane Kick ALWAYS bothered me!! I mean, it's not like he stands on his left foot (because his right is injured), then jumps up using only his left foot, then kicks with his left foot and then lands on his left foot. No... Instead, he stands on his left, jumps with his left, kicks with his left, but then lands on his injured right foot. Doing it that way would see Daniel crumble to the ground, unable to stand on his smashed right knee. If he can support the weight of landing on his leg, with the full force of his full weight after just jumping as high as he can... If his leg can support all that weight, then it can EASILY support the weight of him just standing on his right leg to deliver a kick with his left!!!
As someone who lived in Newark, New Jersey many years ago, I can tell you that the city in the opening shot looks almost nothing like Newark, New Jersey. The row houses could have been Newark, but the wide shot showing the hills and trees in the distance is not even close.
14:35 I had this movie on a beat up VHS tape as a kid. Between muffled audio and a constant buzzing/humming sound, I never caught a word of this scene until I saw it years later.
5:00 Apparently there's a deleted scene where she explains to Daniel that the place she moved them there to work at went out of business and she basically lucked into the waitress job 5 minutes later. But I'm sure deleted scenes don't matter.
Anyone who was brought up on traditional karate and TKD and switched over to more MMA style not even a thought in the 80s REALLY appreciates this video. Cheesy as it is I sentimentally can't help but watch the Cobra Kai with great nostalgia
Mr. Miyagi is the perfect karate trainer. Everything he made Daniel do had a purpose. Even if all of us watching thought everything he made Daniel do was pointless. He knew what he was doing. Don't disrespect Mr. Miyagi cinemasins! 😂
I agree! Take more sins off for karate kid being a brilliant 80s film! And don’t disrespect Johnny at the end when he says “you’re alright LaRuso”. The realisation from Johnny that Danial beat him fair and square despite Johnny cheating and giving him that little bit of respect was a great ending
The sin he gave about Mr Miyagi not actually watching him for form is a good one. Just doing "side to side" is not necessarily gonna learn you anything if you aren't doing it the right way, and Mr Miyagi never checks to make sure.
The Chevelle wagon is a manual transmission, it's a 3 Speed with a steering column shifter, known as "Three On The Tree", so yes, you can push start that wagon
Omg it’s been so long since I’ve watched a CinemaSins video, and this one was so good..I especially like that last comment about Daniel losing the point and Johnny winning, that really got me!😂
The moving job for a job one hurt. We moved at least 30 times when I was a little kid, 80s to mid 90s, and it was usually for a job as simple as waitressing or working at a store. It had to do with low rent, among other rather not talked about problems being poor came with during those times. Neighborhood issues, safety issues, etc. So, that sin was the first I've ever felt attacked lol.
@@Alex-ve1og yes, through 10 states at least, four times actually from one end to the other(to memory, could be more, might be one or two less, memory is weird like that). It's where she knew someone via phone that could guarantee a job or found a cheap place away from current troubles so they wouldn't follow(so we were told, seemed to be true). That's as much as I'd like to talk on it online, to be fair.
@@PureBlackDragon Relatable - my mom and stepdad moved my sister and I from Connecticut to California to get away from some trouble with our father. We lived with a friend of my mom's for about a year before my parents found jobs and saved enough to rent our own place. That was 31 years ago almost to the day as I write this.
Not lol. Families who are struggling tend to move a lot for reasons many others cannot or choose not to understand. There is no shame in working to improve your family's life and often times the road isn't easy.
Lastly,it may seem obvious 40 years later, but I wish you could rewind to the week this movie first came out in theaters. The audience had no clue what was going on with the chores. That’s why it was so cool.
Okay, kick to the face aside, Daniel couldn't STAND on his left leg, then he jumps up and LANDS on it, and doesn't collapse into a whimpering heap. That also should earn a sin.
This is some of yiur best work Jeremy. I legitimately laughed my ass off, and at the end with the bonus "you can't handle the truth" I almost pissed my pants.
it feels weird it took them this long to finally cover this one but in any case, this film is a classic & there is nothing you can say or do to change that
12:40 tbf, I think the point of the training was to show that you can learn Karate as a way of life without committing to aggression. Proving that Karate can be instilled through peace, for a kid who was wanting to learn specifically to defend himself from violent bullies, was essential for the spirit of Miyagi-Do to set in.
19:55 "What do ya wanna hear mom"?.... Right there should have had the audio from "Rocky 3" when he's talking to Adrian on the beach!... "I'm AFRAID!! Is THAT what you want to hear?!? You wanna hear me say it?,, you wanna break me down?!? It's because I'm AFRAID!!"🤣
I love this movie, but what always bothered me was how it just happens to work out in the Karate tournament that Daniel and Johnny end up facing off in the finals. There could have been dozens of outcomes for the finals. What are the odds? lol
@@G360LIVE facts not in evidence. daniel was a smart mouth sure, but calling the one who factually committed attempted murder "the victim" is hardly factual.
@@G360LIVE Yes, it's a legitimate gripe. It's one thing to meet a good WC team in the World Series rather than the team with the asshole manager, but this would be like every team making the playoffs and still getting the main villain in the end.
You forgot that Miyagi used his dog tags as a keychain for the keys for the car that Daniel chose and they were already in the ignition. Did he have all the keys with dog tags or did he know that Daniel would choose that car? That either deserves a sin added or removed depending how you look at it.
8:05 while Pat Morita was indeed AWESOME and a national treasure, most of his fighting in these movies was doubled by Fumio Demura, especially this scene, which Fumio Demura was famous for (the staged situation) during his seminar demos many years ago and before the first Karate Kid.
That scene where he gets pushed off the bike was filmed just above our subdivision. I remember the night the road was closed for that filming. We used to pee on those foundations so that when people moved in, we could say: “I peed on your floor”. I guess we were the bad kids. Erin Brockovich later moved into one of those. 2 sins off for historic backstory
13:12 This comes up in hand-to-hand combat films often. Supposedly, if you know how to read eye-line and eye movement, you know what moves are coming. (True?) In this case, looking eye will warn you peripheral fist. If you look fist, you miss the warning about next move.
The only training that I ever got on this point was to not focus my gaze on anything specific, so as to see everything. I'm kind of with peripheral guy on this one.
Manual transmission are superior to automatic ones. Especially in the 80s, it wasn't until the 2000s before they weren't utter crap compared to even a bad driver.
It seems to me like every manual transmission has a different personality. My 1966 Bug is laid back and forgiving of slight mistakes, the 1994 Jeep Wrangler we had DID NOT like me at all.
Yeah they were superior but americans for like a big part are driving autos and pretty sure that they were a major part too in the 80's, i'm pretty sure it's an auto but in the french dub the mother actually says to daniel's girlfriend if she knows how to switch gears and talks about the clutch so idk
I first watched this movie when I was 6. It inspired me to learn Karate. I watched it again at 14 as a Black Belt... and wished I had not for now I can feel nothing but pain... I am now 24.
Little 13-year-old me, watching this in a theater, found exactly zero sins. But grown-up me is (begrudgingly) willing to admit that some of the stuff you found is valid. The "out-of-context audio theater" though, man, that was among the funniest things I've ever seen on this channel.
In Cobra Kai, we learn more about Johnny and Ali from Johnny’s perspective. They even set up who the next “Karate Kid” is in the beginning when Johnny reopens Cobra Kai and many Karate Kid alum appears. Best revival show ever.
I knew he wasn’t heartless by removing a sin for pat moritas performance. The part where he reminisces about his wife and child while drunk is the most heartbreaking part of this movie
I had a strong feeling he would
@@learningguitarforchicks I totally forgot that scene existed.
As im reading your post, it was playing on my screen. Crazy
Yeah, that’s truly an incredible and iconic performance by the great Pat Morita!👏🏻
That scene what got Pat nominated for the Oscar
Actually, I wasn't surprised Ally knew the rules of a Karate Tournament considering she dated Johnny for years.
With an I.
@@BrodiezaltAND ONE L!!! IT'S ALI, NOT O'NEILL!!!
Okay, Stargate references over. Caps lock off.
My favorite line:
"GET HIM A BODY BAG, YEAH!"
Tommy is just the best part of this movie.
But then on Cobra Kai, they got Tommy a body bag 😁
@@freya8133 That was literally the actor's last performance before he died.
@@freya8133 you know he died
"YOU'RE A CREAMPUFF JOHNNY" is better imo
@@_jokester_8537 Of course I know.
Oh man, I miss Pat Morita! He was the heart and soul of this movie. Just like Christopher Reeve as Superman, there will never be anyone better. RIP, Miyagi-San.
I can't believe that Ralph Macchio was 22 when filming the first movie. In fact, his love interest in the third film was quickly written out due to the awkward age gap between 26 year old Macchio and 16 year old Robin Lively.
In some country's the age of consent can be 16, but yeah, would be quite strange.
Is that true though? According to what I've read, Macchio himself stated the movie shouldn't be about another love interest again because it would be more of the same and make Daniel seem like he wasn't growing up. Eh, maybe both can be true.
@Commenter Guy that was the perfect reply bruh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
How was she written out? They were love interests in that movie. Sorta. 🥴
@@MarcyTrivette no, they were just friends
The mom unpacking a box before bringing them all in sin (and then further expansion about living with sealed boxes for a year until you take them to storage and never touch them again) was a such a perfect, spot on observation of human nature.
I occasionally forget how many movies in the 80's have the characters commit straight up felonies.
And the roving band of bullies.
It was an amazing time to grow up.
Forget the sensleve attempt of child murder in the secule
It's really emphasized in the CollegeHumor video about pranks from 80s movies.
"It was a magical place, called..'the 80's!'"
As a long time practicer of Goju Ryu karate (the style miyagi do is based on) a few fun facts:
1. Goju means hard and soft referring to the change in speed and impact of the many different techniques. this is also shown in the movie since he gets trached both hard and soft techniques (kicks/pinches and flowing moves like wax on wax off)
2. The trainings methods like wax on wax off and paint the fence are actually based around an existing kata called tensho
3. during cobrai kai when they are training on the pond they perform a kata that is actually a real one called seiunchin.
4. When the history of 'miyagi do' is shown with pictures of the old masters one of them is actually a founder and grandmaster in goju ryu
Quite a long comment but hope you find it intresting if you came this far 😀
That's really cool. Thank you for sharing this information!
I appreciate it!
Yeah in Cobra Kai Season 5 it's revealed cobra Kai was inspired by the teachings of Tang Soo Do, which I thought was cool
Fumio Demura was the double on the stumps crane kick scenes
Pat Johnson was fight choreographer and center referee for tournament along with Steve sanders all real MA competitors
Thank you for this information ❤
The “out of context audio theater” portion was the funniest thing you’ve done in a while.
Personally I'm a big fan of "Somehow, this is eggs"
I agree and I hope that it becomes a regular thing. If you got a kick out of that, watch unnecessary censorship in Disney movies. It killed me! "Do you want to *bleep* a snowman?"
@@AbsoluteFilthMedia She should have child protected services called on her for serving whatever that was.
I was dying at that part 🤣
As a fan of Th3 Birdman, even I agree that was comedic gold.
"You're alright larusso."
Continues to hate larusso for the next 30 years
This was the biggest "plot hole" i saw when i started watching Cobra Kai. Im glad i wasnt the only one who thought about this.
Probably Johnny started resenting Daniel again once he became rich and owned a car dealership, and Johnny is a down on his luck handyman.
That's the one part that Cobra Kai Series Retcons. In Karate Kid Movie Johnny was rich yet took Karate lessons from a dojo in the ghetto. As the tournament goes on Johnny notices how messed up his sensai is and by end of fight with La Russo he has a new heart and has the "You're alright La Russo" moment. Add in the parking lot scene at start of Karate Kid 2 and Johnny leaves Cobra Kai to his rich life and a better quality life leaving the Cobra Kai evil teachings behind.
It's then time for Cobra Kai series, and at start of first episode we see after Johnny gets crane kicked he stays laying facedown on ground (compared to movie where he scoots to side of ring then gets up ready to hand La Russo the trophy). In Cobra Kai opening he also stays laying on the ground until he wakes up in that position 33 years later in his bed. Result is he's poor and down on his luck, miserable in life, and still hating on La Russo over the Fight.
Never bought his complete turnaround in attitude that fast either. Going from " You're dead!" to " You're alright LaRusso!" in about 5 minutes.
@@bobapjok4241 Not a plothole.
He realized he was an idiot and the teacher is a dick.
Then, the guy almost fucking kills him, calling him a loser. Then he sees the other guy's teacher pwn his own in like 3 seconds.
He's without a teacher, friends, and even his girl left him for that guy.
THAT is how he starts resenting him.
I love how Daniel and Miyagi developed a parental relationship throughout the movie. They're both grieving for their deceased loved ones, but manage to find kinship in each other.
Johnny better
It's a story about pederasty, he groomed Daniel well.
Bro this vid was posted 30 min ago and you commented 26 min ago… You didn’t even watch the whole vid before commenting. Now I know how people end up getting the most likes with the simplest of comments. I guess you just have to literally comment right after the video is posted so everyone can see it!
@@traeg5752 You cracked the code 😄😹
Wax on wax off, best ship 💪
Yo this one had me cracking up the whole time. " is he drinking milk!" 😆
The whole “bad guy/team plays blatantly unfair and brutal but doesn’t even get a frown from referee” trope is another typical 80s thing.
Of course it is, Ric Flair made a shit ton of money off of it
Definitely not wrong, stuff like Back To The Future, The Outsiders, Stand By Me, Neverending Story, and The Goonies come to mind. Stranger Things too if throwbacks count, haha
Johnny could have pulled a glock out of his gi and shot Daniel in the kneecap and the judges would have given him a point. That's how the rules work for bad guys in movies.
Kicks to the face don’t count for points, except for earlier when Dutch kicks Daniel in the face for a point. Fun fact - Darryl Vidal was a first degree black belt at the time and now is a 10th degree, plus he did some stunt stand-ins during the film. So, yes, he actually was the best around.
#facts
Johnny gets a double tap kick to the face point in an earlier fight too. So unless he got in that kick as a free after the fight blow, he too got a face contact point.
@@joepermenter7228 That’s right. I thought there was another one besides Dutch’s but couldn’t remember.
But can he throw a hadoken?
@@residentrump3271 underrated comment lmao
Lucille was supposed to have a job at Rocket Computers (It's up and coming) but they folded during the time it took her and Daniel to drive across the country. Her waitressing job was a fall back. As clearly stated in the movie.
Exactly.
Yeah, the dude doesn't always pay close attention to the movies he's sinning.
fire the subtitle guy too, at one point Daniel is referred to as "Caruso" and Kreese is spelled "Krese". i mean if we wanna nitpick fine Cinemasins i'll sweep that leg all day.
I had this happen to me. Had the job, they knew I was coming, but between leaving one state and arriving in another, the company folded. I left on a Friday morning and got a call early Monday morning that there wasn’t a job offer anymore.
I ended up taking a per diem job at a hospital walking guests/patients to locations in the hospital as well as running errands for all departments. I lost a lost of money, but I eventually got a full time job in surgery and made it all back and then some.
Really creepy part was the reason the first job fell through. The guy who hired me got caught beating and r@ping his wife. I had met him before the move and there wasn’t any signs he was a psycho (there usually aren’t with the super creepy ones). He ended up killing himself before his trial. He was out on bail and drank a bunch of mercury before hanging himself in his garage.
@@GhostDrummer I knew a guy who decided to give up on America and move to Portugal where he could continue working his job virtually and live much better on his income. He sold his house & most of his belongings and boarded his flight in Portland, Oregon. By the time he landed in New York to catch his connecting flight, Portugal had shut down their boarders due to COVID.
0:55 I say: Absolutely yes! It helps develop the character of Daniel by showing us a glimpse of where he grew up, and how popular he was with his peers there.
The bit about why the karate master would hang a picture of them with machine gun made me laugh. Come on man it was the 80s. Didn't you know all karate people of that time were either ninjas or navy seals.
No, they were ninjas AND navy seals 😁
@@jimbrown5091 😂🤣And looked like Rambo. 👍👍👍
@@jimbrown5091 no, they were all Chuck Norris clones
Green Berets, but civilians can't tell the difference. That was the point of the picture, though, as Green Beret instantly meant badass and had-to-hand combat skills. It also suggests his attitude about winning being a byproduct of his experiences, in Vietnam.
Oooo!! Great idea: everything wrong with…
Navy Seals!
I absolutely LOST IT at "I once chopped my stick with my fly, does that count?" Jeremy's delivery was the best
Hilarious 😂😂
This is, like, the fifth time in the past month I’ve been thinking “how haven’t they sinned this one yet?”
15 hours ago?👀😳
I'm glad you didn't say first
I agree this should be fun
@@Leighton-Hardy op probably is a patreon supported or a member or a friend of someone in the cinemasins team and they got early access to the video
@@Leighton-Hardy yeah that's really weird
The end. 😂😂 “but I was going to the Toshi station to pick up some power converters!” I’m glad that I’m not the only one who thought he resembled Luke Skywalker a whole lot.
It's the hair. 😂
@@GoodBoyGoneDad the short reaction of kreese after that makes it for me 😂
Jokes aside, for me the scene where Miyagi reveals all those chores were training his defensive reflexes is one of the most spine tingling scenes I've ever seen.
Movie magic.
Bro man that scene still brings up good memories as a kid cause we all watching it were like Mr. Miyagi was using him until him saying show me. Wow great great scene.
This whole movie holds up incredibly well
@@B.Piercesports
I LOVE it when you're a kid and so simple that good reveals in movies are like life-changing mind-blowing affairs that you never forget rofl
SHOW!
@@dethmaul lol man kk is so high on my list I remember my uncle explaining it to me in real time. I miss him cause he was my miyagi.
"That's not bullying. That's attempted murder!"
LOLLLLL
I'd take off 10 sins for the Japanese internment camp scene, that shit was dark and only something you grasp when you rewatch this again as an adult.
I've watched the movie a handful of times, but somehow never deciphered Miyagi's line "Land of the Free. Home of the Brave. But no doctor come." That scene hits even harder now.
@@dsholt as someone who only understands it on a very shallow level, could you please explain?
@@dankdio2887 Mr. Miyagi's wife and child died due to complications of childbirth, as did many American citizens of Japanese ancestry. "Land of free, home of brave. No doctor come" was in reference to the fact that MANY Japanese-Americans joined the U.S. Army during the war, but hostilities back home were so heated that medical personnel refused to offer aid to anyone in the internment camps due to prejudice. So basically while these soldiers were fighting and dying for their country, their country was allowing their loved ones to suffer and die also. Oddly enough, the Medal of Honor was awarded to 21 Japanese American soldiers of the 100th Infantry Battalion and the 442nd Regimental Combat Team alone.
Ahem...some of us knew about Manzanar before 1984. It had even been somewhat visualized in the 1976 film Midway, as a subplot revolved around a Nissei love interest who has been interred, along with her parents.
@@leffew2000 On June 21, 2000. More than 50 years after the war. Only Sadao Munemori was awarded the Medal of Honor, posthumously, in 1946, during or at the conclusion of the war. They were the most decorated unit in the US Army, but, minorities were often put up for lesser awards, where white soldiers would be put up for much higher awards for lesser acts of bravery and valor. That is the shame of it.
13 year old me saw this in the movie theater, and I assure you: I did not see the menial tasks being secret training methods. The payoff was so gratifying, that Miyagi was actually a good guy all along. And that final fight? Best in-ring moment since Rocky. 50 sins removed.
I know right? This is literally the movie that created the trope.
I agree. I think we were ALL surprised at Miyagi's motive. We just take it for granted, today.
@@krisblunt6293 Still doesn't explain WHY he taught Daniel that way instead of just teaching him upfront. We're not taking it for granted, we're just confused by it.
@@JustJustin. I'd like to think Miyagi was measuring his dedication and ability to take orders. However, it was never said in the movie, so that explanation can't go on record.
@@JustJustin. By assigning the menial tasks, perhaps Mr. Miyagi was testing Daniel's loyalty and devotion, while admittedly getting some chores accomplished. The repetitive nature of the actions would create muscle memory for his student. But then again, so would straightforward training. Let's just be honest and call it a clever screenwriting twist.
My objection is to Cinema Sins' insistence that viewers saw this twist coming from a mile away. I (and many others) did not. The emotional payoff of the final fight was also tremendously downplayed (although to great comic effect). Peace!
Bobby does look a lot like Luke Skywalker and that dubbed line at the end was golden 🤣
I have been a fan of this channel for years, and it still blows my mind that there's videos being done of movies that weren't covered already!
Damn right you take sin off for Pat Morita.
Man had some serious theatrical acting chops outside of this movie.
Arnold on Happy Days!
@@markcadieux3445 I wish he stayed on Happy Days too!
Daniel’s mom had a job at Rocket Computers. He mentions it to Freddie in the beginning. But the job falls through, hence the waitressing job.
What love about the line where Miyagi tells Daniel he never asked about him knowing karate is it makes it funnier when you remember what Pat Morita said in an interview. He said once he speaks very bad Japanese as well as the only karate he knows is what he learned for the movies.
I can't wait for season 5 of Cobra Kai.
No lie, and this is no joke: Another one of the greatest films
back to date in the 80s! Totally freaking awesome!😀
In Karate Kid Tournament World, kicks to the face always score points. It happens at least a few times in the "Best Around" montage, including once to Daniel. The misnomer comes in from KK3 where Daniel tells Silver during lesson 3 of the Quick Silver method "Yeah, but that's face contact, I'd be disqualified." Thing is, they're talking about a closed fist to the face, not a kick. In the KK1 final, Johnny punches Daniel in the face right before the elbow to the knee and the ref calls "No Point" before the restart.
TLDR, Kicks to face okay, punches to face illegal.
You'd think it'd be the other way around given legs tend to be stronger than arms.
@@RaphaelRavenwing That jump front snap kick aka crane kick literally breaks noses.
Little fact
Pat Morita got an Academy Award nomination for the film in 1985, losing against Haing S. Ngor for The Killing Fields
18:19
Aside from being a huge This Works sin, my biggest problem with this crane kick is that he was able to land on his injured leg. He should have collapsed the moment that left foot hit the ground.
Would have made way more sense for him to jump off his right leg and whip his injured leg into Johnny's head. It would hurt like hell but at least he wouldn't be resting HIS ENTIRE BODY WEIGHT on a broken leg.
It wasn't broken, but badly injured.
107 - The reason Daniel gets up to leave in the first place is because he suddenly remembers his mom is expecting him, but he forgets all about that as soon as he gets in the car. Makes me wonder if during that whole next scene with Allie his mom is at home sitting at the table, wearing a party hat and looking at her watch.
As a former karate practitioner, everyone at my school loved Karate Kid. It got most of us into the sport, or at least was a major influence. It's also incredibly corny.
The "chores as training" is supposed to represent the old school style of training that we hear in stories.
I don't remember the last time i laughed this much watching a cinemasins. Nice one guys.
"I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
"He can"
Had me laughing out loud for a while.
How was there not a single sin given to Ali's 'friend' who's entire presence in the movie to make snide remarks at Daniel.
When I first watched this classic it so got me into wanting to do martial arts in my younger years. That never happened at the time, but, after a few beatings, one that put me in hospital with a serious head injuryand, nearly killed me. Also had to learn how to speak again. Plus a few more encounters after recovering. I decided to take it upon myself, now I was older. I'm now a qualified instructor and love teaching it. 4th Dan in wado ryu and 3rd Dan in Kickboxing. My wife took the ride with me and also my 3 girls. One had to drop out because of school, hoping that she rejoins in a few years. Hopefully our 4th will take part when she's old enough :)
Well done, Cinemasins. Your best videos are almost always the ones where you sin the hell out of great movies. Kudos.
16:06 Yeah he did that in every fricking movie. My brothers and I binged all these movies one time and every time there was a kiss scene we'd turn away and almost throw tf up
Good timing, for cobra Kai season 5. 😏 But this movie has no sin. Ok jersey deserves it. 😆
It's almost liked they planned it 😉
Watched Season 5 last night It was good
I was laughing so hard at the out of context cinema that my children (under ten) became concerned because I stopped breathing for a couple of seconds.
I hadn't seen it in so many years, was happy to put on a little marathon this week!
Had Totally forgot about what happened to Myagis family, I remember it was a big scene in the Jackie Chan one, but was a Wow moment seeing in this again. Daniel is the son he never got to pass on his teachings to. Very cool. ❤
Miyagi
Funny thing is in traditional Japanese, Daniel would refer to Miyagi as Miyagi San, or Miyagi Sensei. It is unlikely that Miyagi would refer to Daniel as Daniel san.
“IS HE DRINKING MILK?!”
I almost choked
In HS baseball as a catcher, a runner at home plate did my knee just like "sweep the leg". I never played baseball again. 15 minutes later I was still in shock from watching my leg hyperextend
Why the catcher just can't have his foot on the plate as the first baseman does for the out I have no idea...then at second and third, you ALSO have to tag the runner.
Baseball is so weird.
@@projektkobra2247 The catcher can have his foot on the plate for a force out if there's bases loaded. You should learn the force rules for baseball
@@danielmoore8695 -I know the rules for baseball...The Old man was a Triple AAA manager.....Im talking about crashing into the catcher and breaking legs, or other unnecessary idiot injuries that occur...ALL throws to the plate should be "touch base only" instead of tags.
Paint on, paint off.
Wax the fence, wax the fence.
In my recent re-binging of CinemaSins, I had been looking for a Karate Kid version.
This is awesome.
11:57 how in all my years did I never notice this?!
It seems like you genuinely had fun with this video, Jeremy. There wasn’t much harshness or pedantic nitpicking-just good natured joshing and it was all funny and entertaining.
fun fact about warm/room temp beer; it gets you drunk faster because it metabolizes faster. Alcoholic teens like Johnny might actually drink them that way, even if its kinda gross tasting.
I always though Bobby Brown sounded like a young Luke Skywalker lol. So glad you snuck that in at the very end 😂😂
This movie, even if it's not the best, is honestly one of my favorite. It's the first movie that got me into watching movies when I was younger
That, Ghostbusters, Terminator, Back to the Future, Rocky,
and Star Wars are honestly, six of the best movie franchises
back to date in the 70s, and 80s.
another weird thing that happens during the spaghetti incident scene is how absolutely everyone in that restaurant just stops and laughs at him. It has adults and elders in there, and they all think a kid covered in pasta is hilarious? No one even checks if he's ok :D
The Crane Kick ALWAYS bothered me!! I mean, it's not like he stands on his left foot (because his right is injured), then jumps up using only his left foot, then kicks with his left foot and then lands on his left foot. No... Instead, he stands on his left, jumps with his left, kicks with his left, but then lands on his injured right foot. Doing it that way would see Daniel crumble to the ground, unable to stand on his smashed right knee. If he can support the weight of landing on his leg, with the full force of his full weight after just jumping as high as he can... If his leg can support all that weight, then it can EASILY support the weight of him just standing on his right leg to deliver a kick with his left!!!
As someone who lived in Newark, New Jersey many years ago, I can tell you that the city in the opening shot looks almost nothing like Newark, New Jersey. The row houses could have been Newark, but the wide shot showing the hills and trees in the distance is not even close.
Yeah there is no mountains or country near Newark. There is just more city
14:35 I had this movie on a beat up VHS tape as a kid. Between muffled audio and a constant buzzing/humming sound, I never caught a word of this scene until I saw it years later.
5:00 Apparently there's a deleted scene where she explains to Daniel that the place she moved them there to work at went out of business and she basically lucked into the waitress job 5 minutes later.
But I'm sure deleted scenes don't matter.
Anyone who was brought up on traditional karate and TKD and switched over to more MMA style not even a thought in the 80s REALLY appreciates this video. Cheesy as it is I sentimentally can't help but watch the Cobra Kai with great nostalgia
Who would’ve thought Thirty plus years later Cobra Kai would follow.
16:59
Freddy is such a forgettable character.
I’ve seen this movie 100 times and never noticed he was at the tournament.
Literally, this is the first time I've noticed it
Mr. Miyagi is the perfect karate trainer. Everything he made Daniel do had a purpose. Even if all of us watching thought everything he made Daniel do was pointless. He knew what he was doing. Don't disrespect Mr. Miyagi cinemasins! 😂
I agree! Take more sins off for karate kid being a brilliant 80s film! And don’t disrespect Johnny at the end when he says “you’re alright LaRuso”. The realisation from Johnny that Danial beat him fair and square despite Johnny cheating and giving him that little bit of respect was a great ending
@@jameshampton5774 it was an illegal crane kick
The sin he gave about Mr Miyagi not actually watching him for form is a good one. Just doing "side to side" is not necessarily gonna learn you anything if you aren't doing it the right way, and Mr Miyagi never checks to make sure.
@@tristin3507 what makes it illegal? Face kicks happen multiple times in the tournament and points are scored every time.
@@tristin3507 Dutch kicked a guy in the face twice to win a match. he even kicked Daniel in the face and got a point.
1:20 What makes you think it's only moments later? Look at the area they're driving by. Does that look like it's a few minutes drive from Newark?
The Chevelle wagon is a manual transmission, it's a 3 Speed with a steering column shifter, known as "Three On The Tree", so yes, you can push start that wagon
2:10 love the "Lucy explaining" joke. Subtle, yet genius. 🤣
When she trips the skeletons, there's a bones clacking together sound that I always thought was a weird choice to include in the movie.
Omg it’s been so long since I’ve watched a CinemaSins video, and this one was so good..I especially like that last comment about Daniel losing the point and Johnny winning, that really got me!😂
11:58 Thank you for ruining this scene for me for the rest of time XD
The moving job for a job one hurt. We moved at least 30 times when I was a little kid, 80s to mid 90s, and it was usually for a job as simple as waitressing or working at a store. It had to do with low rent, among other rather not talked about problems being poor came with during those times. Neighborhood issues, safety issues, etc. So, that sin was the first I've ever felt attacked lol.
But did you move to the literal other end of the country?
@@Alex-ve1og yes, through 10 states at least, four times actually from one end to the other(to memory, could be more, might be one or two less, memory is weird like that). It's where she knew someone via phone that could guarantee a job or found a cheap place away from current troubles so they wouldn't follow(so we were told, seemed to be true). That's as much as I'd like to talk on it online, to be fair.
@@PureBlackDragon Relatable - my mom and stepdad moved my sister and I from Connecticut to California to get away from some trouble with our father. We lived with a friend of my mom's for about a year before my parents found jobs and saved enough to rent our own place. That was 31 years ago almost to the day as I write this.
I feel that. 12 years of schooling, 18 schools attended. 😅
Not lol. Families who are struggling tend to move a lot for reasons many others cannot or choose not to understand. There is no shame in working to improve your family's life and often times the road isn't easy.
Lastly,it may seem obvious 40 years later, but I wish you could rewind to the week this movie first came out in theaters. The audience had no clue what was going on with the chores. That’s why it was so cool.
Okay, kick to the face aside, Daniel couldn't STAND on his left leg, then he jumps up and LANDS on it, and doesn't collapse into a whimpering heap. That also should earn a sin.
Nothing's wrong with Karate Kid. It's the best... around. Nothing's gonna ever keep it down.
This is some of yiur best work Jeremy. I legitimately laughed my ass off, and at the end with the bonus "you can't handle the truth" I almost pissed my pants.
it feels weird it took them this long to finally cover this one but in any case, this film is a classic & there is nothing you can say or do to change that
I almost fell out of my chair laughing at the "Out of context audio theater".
Did u see how he was rolling that joint !?!?
That's at least 170 sins
These are just so damn hilarious 😅
The Luke Skywalker joke was the perfect end, thanks for the laughs
That “out of context, audio theater” was absolutely brilliant…
12:40 tbf, I think the point of the training was to show that you can learn Karate as a way of life without committing to aggression. Proving that Karate can be instilled through peace, for a kid who was wanting to learn specifically to defend himself from violent bullies, was essential for the spirit of Miyagi-Do to set in.
19:55 "What do ya wanna hear mom"?....
Right there should have had the audio from "Rocky 3" when he's talking to Adrian on the beach!...
"I'm AFRAID!! Is THAT what you want to hear?!? You wanna hear me say it?,, you wanna break me down?!? It's because I'm AFRAID!!"🤣
I love this movie, but what always bothered me was how it just happens to work out in the Karate tournament that Daniel and Johnny end up facing off in the finals. There could have been dozens of outcomes for the finals. What are the odds? lol
Really? That's what bothered you? Not the fact that Daniel was the bully and Johnny was the victim?
@@G360LIVE Yeh that too, lol.
@@G360LIVE facts not in evidence. daniel was a smart mouth sure, but calling the one who factually committed attempted murder "the victim" is hardly factual.
@@G360LIVE Yes, it's a legitimate gripe. It's one thing to meet a good WC team in the World Series rather than the team with the asshole manager, but this would be like every team making the playoffs and still getting the main villain in the end.
OMG, that "Out of Context Theater" segment had me laughing so hard. :)
You didn’t have a sin/sin off for “put him in a body bag Johnny”!!??? That line had me CACKLING when I rewatched
That line was improvised by the actor on the spot!
“That's not bullying, that's attempted murder.” 😂
I never laughed so hard as i did at this cinemasins!!! I love this channel!
Oh no! 11:57 cracked me up😂 Forgive me, Pat Morita
You forgot that Miyagi used his dog tags as a keychain for the keys for the car that Daniel chose and they were already in the ignition. Did he have all the keys with dog tags or did he know that Daniel would choose that car? That either deserves a sin added or removed depending how you look at it.
He knew Daniel would choose that car.
You didn’t remove a sin for “Give ‘im a body bag - YEAHHH!” ???
I give cinemasins 5 sins.
8:05 while Pat Morita was indeed AWESOME and a national treasure, most of his fighting in these movies was doubled by Fumio Demura, especially this scene, which Fumio Demura was famous for (the staged situation) during his seminar demos many years ago and before the first Karate Kid.
That scene where he gets pushed off the bike was filmed just above our subdivision. I remember the night the road was closed for that filming. We used to pee on those foundations so that when people moved in, we could say: “I peed on your floor”. I guess we were the bad kids. Erin Brockovich later moved into one of those. 2 sins off for historic backstory
13:12 This comes up in hand-to-hand combat films often. Supposedly, if you know how to read eye-line and eye movement, you know what moves are coming. (True?)
In this case, looking eye will warn you peripheral fist. If you look fist, you miss the warning about next move.
The only training that I ever got on this point was to not focus my gaze on anything specific, so as to see everything. I'm kind of with peripheral guy on this one.
That was the funniest one I've seen yet. Thanks for the laughs
Manual transmission are superior to automatic ones. Especially in the 80s, it wasn't until the 2000s before they weren't utter crap compared to even a bad driver.
Now we shift with a fucking knob that puts me in neutral when I try to turn the music down..
Truth. Back in the day automatic transmissions came with guaranteed automatic transmission repair bills.
It seems to me like every manual transmission has a different personality. My 1966 Bug is laid back and forgiving of slight mistakes, the 1994 Jeep Wrangler we had DID NOT like me at all.
@@LadyOnikara Totally. You had to get a feel of the car like it was a horse.
Yeah they were superior but americans for like a big part are driving autos and pretty sure that they were a major part too in the 80's, i'm pretty sure it's an auto but in the french dub the mother actually says to daniel's girlfriend if she knows how to switch gears and talks about the clutch so idk
8:46 Miyagi meant in Karate!
I first watched this movie when I was 6.
It inspired me to learn Karate.
I watched it again at 14 as a Black Belt... and wished I had not for now I can feel nothing but pain... I am now 24.
Little 13-year-old me, watching this in a theater, found exactly zero sins. But grown-up me is (begrudgingly) willing to admit that some of the stuff you found is valid. The "out-of-context audio theater" though, man, that was among the funniest things I've ever seen on this channel.
In Cobra Kai, we learn more about Johnny and Ali from Johnny’s perspective. They even set up who the next “Karate Kid” is in the beginning when Johnny reopens Cobra Kai and many Karate Kid alum appears. Best revival show ever.
Thanks!
Pat Morita's performance as mr miyagi was ICONIC!!!!
Tell me why this man violated my whole existence in the first 10 seconds. I have nothing to live for now😥