Everything Wrong With The Breakfast Club In 17 Minutes Or Less
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The Breakfast Club is an all-time classic '80s film, and we are long overdue to go inspecting it for sins. So... we did. Found some!
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Remember, no movie is without sin. Which movie's sins should we count next?
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@O l i v i a 🖤 not cool
Repost EWW Showgirls!
Fun facts for those who don’t know about this movie- the budget was $1,000,000 and the library that most the film takes place in was actually built over a gymnasium in an abandoned school. Interior shots of the halls may be recognized from “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off”. The whole movie was shot in order from start to finish. Judd Nelson went to a real school and attended classes to get into character. The scene where they are smoking, John Hughes let the cameras role and the actors did whatever they wanted. The scene that includes why each of them is in detention was completely 100% improvised, NO LINES WERE WRITTEN, as possibly suggested in the video
That is really cool that he let them make up their own stories for why they were in detention. But then it is also sad that the actor for Brian chose something suicide related.
*FUN FACT:* 25% of the budget was used on globes.
@@jimb.7523 True or not this made me giggle
@@jimb.7523 🤣
Fun fact: In the initial script, Molly Rimgwald was supposed to be the only one dancing in that scene towards the end, but it made her uncomfortable. Ultimately all five of them ended dancing together. Speaking of which, Ally Sheedy was voted best dancer by the cast and crew.
Jeremy worrying about unrefrigerated milk, when Claire has unrefrigerated SUSHI
claire’s parents definitely seem like the type of people to put 1 or 2 or 10 ice packs in her lunch
4 hours is fiiiiiiiiiineeee
@@mrsupersadface But if it persists after 4 hours, be sure to see your doctor.
If eatting sushi doesn't kill you, eating unrefrigerated sushi won't kill you .
It is bait, you are supposed to fish with it, not eat it.
Most sushi is unprepared or even raw
As a former janitor, I can assure you, it's a job that never ends. Most places periodically demand detailing and deep cleaning, and a weekend would be a great time to get caught up on work at a school, especially stripping and waxing floors. That would be impossible to get done during school hours.
PS, the "period jokes" bit was hilarious.
PPS, "The Breakfast Club" was what they called Saturday detention at John Hughes's school.
As a former janitor, can confirm
and they only had one janitor! at least on that saturday lol. never noticed the tampon until now and i figured it was called the breakfast club cuz it was saturday morning. thats prolly why hughes' school called it that I bet
So....was that actually sawdust janitors would use whenever a kid puked in school? It really smelled like it.
As a former victim of Saturday detentions, I can also confirm. There was at least one janitor there all 4 times I had to be there.
We only had 4 hours, though; not 10. 7am to 5pm is insane!
@@cgh7337 correct. our school used "upset" by arrow chemical and it said on the safety data sheets that it was 90% sawdust and 10% methyl salicylate
I'll admit, I have always hated what was done to Allison's character. Took her from cool and interesting to boring and normie. And it doubled down on the stereotype that all girls just want jocks. But at least... it was an honest reflection of 80s adolescence.
Nah, they (all of them but for now Allison and Sporto) formed a connection and transcended stereotypes, if only briefly.
@Trisha Eaten-Cox that is crap. they exist because it is easier to be lazy and bigoted for a lot of people than it is to actually learn something about each other. assuredly you are one of them if that is your stance
Public perceptions aren’t created in a vacuum, they are created out of pattern recognition, which is built into the human brain.
@@theresawilson7499 yeah but anyone who has done cloud-watching can see how good the human brain is at making patterns from almost anything even if there is none
Let's be honest though, that hair didn't change no matter how nice it looked :P
John Hughes really tried to make us believe that 1980s weed was a) good, and b) capable of making someone hyped enough to shatter glass and also do back flips.
Haha, so true.
If it was New Millennium weed, the room wouldn't have needed to be so smoky. The hotbox wouldn't have been needed. Ha, they would have had vapourizers
@@seagecko if it was today weed, the teens would have hit it once and then been dead on the floor and credits would have rolled showing them 14 hours later staggering out of the school, half asleep and thinking somebody was behind them just about to touch their necks.
I seriously don't know how kids can smoke these days. They're starting out on grade A, scientifically crafted space weed while I started out on seedy chronic 12 years ago lmao and they're VAPING IT 😬 they're so much stronger than I ever was lmao
@@bb-ih9hg ur not lying
For some reason screenwriters, who have all surely done lots of drugs, have never figured out how to portray the affects of drug use. I think the weirdest is how they depict someone using LSD. In the movies the person who takes acid is always all loud and wacky, tearing their cloths off while yelling some nonsensical shit, I have never seen a person act like that on any hallucinogenic. In fact, it usually looks pretty much the opposite of that.
My mom was a senior in high school when this film came out and she said her experience was more like Fast Times at Ridgemont High. I love both films, she does too
You were conceived in a bullpen
I grew up in 70’s and I agree with your mom. It was definitely more Fast Times At Ridgemont High in almost every way lol.
I went to high school in the 90s. It was more Saved by the Bell.
Both movies are 80s classics!
@Jimmy TwoTimes Class of 85 here and I agree with you… A bit of both.
10:40 Useless fun fact, I remember hearing the commentary on the DVD and Judd Nelson said he ad libbed this joke and there never was a punchline because he knew he would fall before he would have to finish the joke 😝
Additional useless fun fact, 4/5ths of the Breakfast Club guest starred on the show Psych, all of them except Emilio Estevez.
@@penelopew77 which episodes
@@Randoman Well Ally Sheedy was in the Mr. Yang/Mr. Yin Run of Episodes they did plus the Musical Special. Molly Ringwald played a Nurse in the Episode Shawn Interrupted. Anthony Michael Hall played Harris Trout in Season 7/Season 8.
@@penelopew77 oh wow you’re right! I don’t know how I coulda missed this!😆
@@CharlessMovieChannel thanks. Gonna watch those ones and see if I can recognize them
The most appropriate "Roll Credits" that ever rolled credits.
Finally! I always thought Brian's response "I can make spaghetti" came so quickly on the heels of Allison's dialogue about writing with her toes, that it implied Brian could in fact make spaghetti with his toes. I know that wasn't what he meant, but the timing of the delivery, it could go either way....and a hilarious visual if true!
I may be impressed by someone making spaghetti with their toes, but you could not pay me to eat it! Even wity spaghetti being my favorite food. Would you try foot spaghetti?
@@no1caresanymore maybe if the feet were extremely clean and washed right in front of me.
Brian rushed in with that because he's socially awkward. That's all.
I know that Cinema Sins makes its living off being snarky about movies, but there are logical reasons for lots of the continuity problems in Breakfast Club. I was in high school in the 80's and it was a running joke that no two clocks ever showed the same time. The noon lunch bell rang at 11:50, 12:07 or 1pm depending on what classroom you were in.
not at my school, the clocks were synced to the second
Also, does it really matter if the clocks show different times? I don't think anyone's looking that closely at the clocks.
@UncleMikeNJ I agree, half the time the idiots would line up at the door, then the teacher would force us to all seat and noone could leave until everyone was seated. There was always the one "cool" kid who wouldn't sit.
Also sinning the newspaper for being repetitive when it has nothing to do with the actual plot. I mean i get nitpicking but I’m sinning them for not understanding the base idea of what a prop is
Our school clocks were like that, they were all connected, so when one clock had a problem, like a stuck or slow hand, they would just spin all of them forward or backwards so they synced back up, but some of them would still get a stuck hand or be a whole hour off. Or the dreaded wonky second hand that would get to almost a minute then go backwards for ten seconds, then mess up that clock entirely. It was to the point that teachers would buy a battery wall clock out of their own pocket.
While Allison's makeover is highly controversial, it's symbolic of her letting her walls down, and admitting that she wants the attention she desperately craves. Plus, Andy clearly liked her way before the dramatic change, and might not have cared had she gone back to her old look.
Thank you for pointing that out. It's like one of the biggest gripes so many detractors have with this movie. And I'm so glad you addressed a proper rebuttal.
This comes down to whether she presents the way she does because that is who she feels she really is, or an attempt to get even negative attention from her family. Since this isn't actually answered in the movie, I'm just going to point out that changing who you are to get the attention of a boy is a recipe for teen pregnancy, among other things.
Yeah, that’s the point of the makeover. You nailed it. I’ve never had an issue with it.
you don't need make up for that.
Yeah it's about her letting down the walls she uses to guard herself. Maybe they could have handled it better, but you can clearly see she's happy to be herself more and not have to lie to protect herself.
"Why did he feel the need to put the schools full address on it?"
Apparently someone doesn't remember how to write a highschool essay. The goal is to just fill with as much random bullshit as possible! In other words add a sin cause he should be working at cinemasins 😂
😃😅🤣
I remember trying to figure out how many times I could use the word “very” in a sentence without the teacher getting pissed. 😆
@@tiedyedowl8367 without the teacher getting very pissed * 😁😅
Word 😂🤣
Sin Counter: 0
*Sentence: Detention*
Sins should have been removed for multiple scenes in this movie, but regardless I highly rate the fact that he removed over 30 sins for this movie
40. The 80's were 40 years ago ;)
@@Frenchaboo but this movie was 1985, and if he recorded this in 2021 then its 36. Which is over 30 and not quite 40
@@manda4279 Gross.
The Breakfast Club is a fitting title - as the whole film is like a wake-up call for everyone in it. It’s a tale of powerful, even painful, epiphanies - and it’s also funny, iconic and beautifully paced.
Spitting factssss, love this movie.
It was actually called The breakfast club because at John Hughes sons or nephew's School they would call people who had Saturday morning detention The breakfast club because they had to come in so early
@@flipbookproductions1407 that's what I've always thought too. They had to get up and come in at their normal weekday breakfast time on a Saturday.
I've always loved this movie. But there's one point Jeremy makes that's really a good question, Richard Vernon is a hardass who watches over them the first half of the day and doesn't hold back at all from leaning on them and disciplining them. But the second half of the day, Vernon dissapears while the kids just start making noise, dancing, smoking weed, and hanging around in the back getting into deep conversations with each other and Vernon never walks in on them even once. The morning Vernon warned them to not talk, to stay put at their desks, to refrain from any monkey business, which would include lounging around in the back, bs-ing around, or dancing, and morning Vernon would've smelled that pot in a heartbeat.
I know that at one point during that time, we see Vernon going down to the files room in another part of the building, starts looking things up, and makes a few emotional comments to the janitor about dreading how those punk teens will one day be running the country when he's elderly. But was that his entire afternoon? Did he stay in that files room and is that why he never knew about the kids' afternoon antics, which were a long way away from how he dictated he wanted them to behave that morning?
However, that doesn't mean I haven't always liked the second half of this movie, because I did and there were alot of good moments
"I don't believe the writer has ever suffered a knee injury."
As a person who's knee injuries stretch into the double-digits, I am so with you, dude!
My left MCL is torn. Recently flared up pretty bad and makes me think it's getting worse. That knee is permanently weakened.
I used to be a soldier, ‘til I took an arrow to the knee…
@@IrishRepoMan how did that happen
@@RJ_824 Presumably from doing squats wrong. Was like 10 years ago.
That's one sin in this video I don't understand at all. Having a high school character utter a line that only someone who had never experienced would say is...exactly what you aim to do with high school characters. It makes perfect sense that a guy who has probably never suffered a major injury before would pick the sort of injury someone with experience wants no part of as his fantasy "get out of this situation" injury. I'd put neck/back injuries up there too!
As a person who had to do community hours cleaning up a elementary school, I can tell you personally that they do indeed, work in a saturday
What'd you do to get "community hours"?
@@stingray728 I was 17 and got arrested for possession of marijuana. Since I was about to graduate high school, they gave me drug classes and 40 hours of community service. So I got to do them at the elementary school helping the janitor next to my high school. I’d go there after school and spend 4 hours on a Saturday helping. Saturdays we did a lot of like I think it’s called waxing the floors.
I know how to work on a Saturday but how do you work 'in' a Saturday?!
@@theriddick2735 that’s a very good question that only an eighth of shrooms could answer
As someone who doesn't care, i didn't ask
Well nobody wrote the scene of Andrew's confession. It was all ad-libbed by Estevez. So it would be his fault.
All of their stories of why they were in detention were improvised
When Andrew was confessing and crying ( 'I won't tolerate any losers in this family' ), he seemed pretty clear headed, yet he should have been stoned out of his mind and passed out, considering he just came from smoking all that weed in the closed room full of weed smoke.
Nah, unless you’re completely blotto, adrenaline or extreme upset can snap you straight. That’s what “buzz-kill” means.
@@akaLaBrujaRoja I second this
@@akaLaBrujaRoja i third this
This was '80s weed... virtually nothing like today's stuff.
Who cares
i don’t care what anybody says about this movie. it’s fun to watch, the actors all hold their own and are like able in their own regards. Bender is fantastic throughout and carries the movie pretty well and the soundtrack is great too. people that go into this looking for a critic’s choice award film shouldn’t be watching it in the first place😭
As a teen in the 80's I LOVED this film... still do. I know this is comedy but I eye-rolled so many of these 'sins' and lol'ed right along, P.S. Hughes got the name from his son as this is what they called morning detention...
That’s funny because I went to high school in the mid 90s and did not like the breakfast club. Funny how much a decade changes things.
It was in theaters when I was in high school. I felt it then, still feel it now. Over the years, The Breakfast Club has become legend, Cinema Sins has become unwatchable cuckbait.
@@rathelmmc3194 I went to school in the 2010s and I LOVED the breakfast club?
Thank U - Sins obviously think doing the tiniest bit of researching could told him that
_I look forward to Breakfast Clubs two, three, four, and five..._
John Hughes actually did have a plan to make a _Breakfast Club_ sequel every decade or so to show how the characters progress through the years. Obviously, it never got off the ground and now Hughes is dead so there will likely never be _any_ sequel which is probably a good thing.
I'm sure Hollywood will crap out a garbage reboot/remake or something in the future.
@@jimb.7523 With a 'diverse' cast.
Isn’t that because they’d have had to recast Bender?
don't give Hollywood ideas. They would really screw this one up.
@@HappyCynic I know, can you imagine?! A cast that accurately reflects the diverse demographics of modern America?? The horror!!
When you removed a sin for every year since this came out...
My mental health took a hit.
This movie basically created the “Teenagers in detention” trope in movies.
Haha. No. How it works is, all the crap films that stole it made it a trope. This is another thing that used to exist in filmmaking called originality.
@@nichole4684 It's my opinion...that nothing you just said is relevant.
@@Zachorazor1 not actually true. Originality is rare. Most things are retreads of other things. 5 individuals from conflicting origins are imprisoned together and go on a grand adventure of self-discovery is far older than the 80s.
@@TxSonofLiberty I can create false overgeneralisations too. Stories about people doing things go back thousands of years.
This was more specific in context. And is true.
@@TxSonofLiberty
Hitchcock did it WAAAAY better in "Lifeboat."
I actually gave a shit what happened to all THOSE characters...these kids are so contrived and manipulated by the story that it kills the whole "suspension of disbelief" thing for me..
The Breakfast Club is a masterpiece end of story.
At 11:20 Brian isn't doing "black voice" he's doing an impression of Richard Pryor. It says so in the subtitles on the movie.
Who is .....black. yes Brian was doing black voice.
@@brianhardy612 I really hope you mean that in a wordplay sense and don't actually think it's racist. 🙄
@@brianhardy612 so are impressions illegal now? Imma start calling Elvis impressions "White Voice".
Eh I love politically incorrect humor but I felt like this was still pretty much a bad stereotype that aged sourly and carried on to Weird Science.
This is why pop cultural context and not imposing your own “modern” values onto older properties is important.
Also, how exactly can you “sound” like a race which is comprised of millions of people from all over the globe, living in diverse regions and occupying unique cultural traditions?
Implying that all people of a particular race sound the same is the essence of racism.
The make-up over Ally Sheedys character was one of the biggest let downs for me at the time. I was in perfect age for this movie and was the first time i saw a "goth", a weird girl who chews her nails and doesn't seem to fit in.. And they they ruined her at the end.
Agreed - I graduated HS in 84 so saw this after first year of college and was disappointed that they ‘fixed’ her by making her conform to societal standards.
Just be yourself. No, not like that.
yup. Dumb makeover, she was great as she was
Some goths never grow up. I’m 1
@@lovelylacey same. My crew, all in our early 50s, haven't changed much at all...
Would love to hear your guys’ take on other classic movies, like The Godfather, Goodfellas, or even Casa Blanca. No movie is without sin, right?
Fear loathing Las Vegas
Citizen Kane
If they really wanna piss people off they should do some Hitchcock movies like Psycho or Rear Window
Still waiting for Chinatown.
Vertigo with Kim Novak
*JEREMY:* **decides to sin "The Breakfast Club"*
*ME:* You mess with the bull, you get the horns!
@@nichole4684 what…… the…… FUCK!!!!?!?!?!?!?
@@nichole4684 Get out of my comment, you damn dirty BOT!
@@jimb.7523 Amen.
@@123RADIOactive Right?
Im in
The Breakfast Club will always be the best brat pack movies of the 80s. Don't even think about arguing about it. Because you already lost
Not gonna disagree, but my favorite will always be Sixteen Candles
@@duckmeister5385 I can understand that any movie with Molly Ringwald is automatically going to be good
@@leecosey7003 Three words: Long. Duc. Dong.
St. Elmo’s Fire enters the convo…
@@imame1433 automatically is part of the brat pack
Arguably the greatest high school movie of all time. Perfect cast, I grew up on the brat pack. Do I deserve a sin for that?🤣
I found it boring.
No sins for you. We're Gen X. We rock. Lol
@@kellykountouris7193 LOL
@@scottslotterbeck3796 Even if we are often forgotten lol, we still rock and we don't give a shit what anyone thinks of us. We know who we are lol.
I love this movie, along with most teen movies from the 80s. Especially if it’s a John Hughes movie. He was fantastic.
Smoke detectors sometimes aren't set off by smoking weed or tobacco if there's not enough smoke, especially older detectors. Also, it's especially impressive he shattered the window with his voice since it was wire reinforced.
That was a really high ceiling. The smoke wold have dissipated by then.
There was plenty of smoke, they need to replace their detectors.
In the 70-80s most people smoked indoors so smoke detectors were not especially sensitive... but the room filled with smoke would have absolutely set them off... but I don't think it was any more real than a teen shattering wire reinforced safety glass with his voice.
@Trisha Eaten-Cox good point- hadn't thought of that
@@LordTalax when I was in high school, few rooms had them.
No, custodians don't always get everything cleaned on Friday.
@@nichole4684 No.
Yes, and they also dont only work on fridays lol
Glad these classics are finally being covered! I watched it again last year and it still holds up. Nice nice.
The movie was set in the 80s because it was made in the 80s.
In a deleted scene, Allison breaks into a teacher’s locker while her and Andrew are getting the drinks for lunch and she steals the Prince Record that we see when catches the drink that Bender tosses to her.
Now I would say that it is likely that the Principal will find out that Allison and Andrew were responsible and they may possibly be brought back to Saturday detention with Bender. So this may hint a bit for what happens beyond the day that this movie takes place in. It’s wishful thinking that Claire and Brian would rejoin them but they would have to get themselves in trouble again and Principal Vernon would probably be wise to their plan and sit in with them on that detention or put Claire and Brian in a separate detention on another day.
The locker scene along with 50 minutes worth of deleted scenes are available on UA-cam if you search for deleted scenes for The Breakfast Club. There are some good scenes that were cut especially when Karl The Janitor makes his predictions about the students’ futures.
Fun Fact: There is apparently a deleted scene where Allison actually writes with her toes but it is not available on UA-cam.
Feet are considered pornographic in todays age
You will never find that on youtube
Can you link it in the comments please
Thanks to Dan Schneider @@xxxod
5:32 That was actually cool, even with the backwards reverb on top. Really adds to the drama, don’t it?
They possibly didn't immediately know it was Bender that pulled the fire alarm a week before so he may not have gotten punished for it until Monday or so. I usually don't disagree with the sins but this one is pushing it a bit.
They tend to push it A LOT from what I've seen.
Always up for a Swiss Army Man reference.
Edit: How did I reply a month ago?
You’re a time-traveler and didn’t know it!
How did you reply a month ago? I mean wasn't this just released 30min ago? I am truly confused and intrigued!
By being in an Xmen movie?
I just hope they don’t remake this or have some lame sequel 😔
4:40 You can sin that, but you'll also have to sin yourself for judging people of the past by present day moral standards.
11:19 You sin this, then at 12:25 you racially stereotype white women. Either accept racial jokes or be consistent with your moralizing.
As a white person I can honestly say that White jokes are never controversial or offensive. The rest of that shit definitely is. Homophobia and racism was never okay and just because it was accepted in the 80s doesn't mean it was right.
Also you missed the point. The white woman's thing was a joke whereas the other two things was them chastising the movie for just straight-up hurtful content. The homophobic slur in particular had no joke behind it
Being gay was not cool in the 80s like it is now. I remember thinking in 1980, damn! the millennium is only 20 years away!
Little did I know how great the 80s were.
Shocked they've never sinned this
"I won't tolerate any losers in this family" -- Charlie Sheen's brother.
LOL 🤣
Well not to mention. He goes by Emilio estevez. Not Sheen like Charlie does.
Estevez being his mother's maiden name I think.
@@fatallynx
No, their father's real name is Ramón Estevez. Martin Sheen is his stage name, which he picked to avoid typecasting.
@@Itcouldbebunnies I stand corrected. You're right. Their father changed his name to his stage name Martin Sheen
Charlie Sheen's real name is Carlos Irwin Estévez. Charlie Sheen is his stage name.
14:50 ... the whole “flare”gun going off in his locker kinda legitimizes the need to pull a fire 🔥 alarm 🚨...😳
I will not stand for breakfast club slander
When he goes into "Deep thoughts Jeremy" mode, his voice sounds eerily like Keanu Reeves. Just me?
Me and my mother watched this movie together. Andrew was her favorite character. She died today. Rest in peace, mom❤
I'm so sorry for your loss ❤
I'm so sorry to hear that, stay strong.
My condolences for your loss. 😢🙏💕
I'm S0 SORRY You Lost Your Mom!!! 😢😢😢😢😢😢
I Lost My Mama 10 Years Ago This Month.
I MISS HER SO MUCH!!!
I’m half way through the video and I JUST realized this video isn’t like 4 years old. I’m glad to be one of the first to see it 😂
It's funny how relatable a movie from the 80s can still be - you can look at a lot of this film and see your own high school experiences...
Well, the teen experience at its core changes very little over time it seems.
My favorite part is the principal saying 'These kids will be running the country when I'm old'
They're still saying that. Weirdly, it doesn't seem that the 80s teens are running the country...it's still the 60s teens in charge...
@@NikkiTheOtterYeah Gen X still isn’t in charge yet, give it a few years when the boomers start dying out
@@nonameman7114 I think we need to actually skip over gen X, go straight to the Millenials.
The only one who actually had breakfast was the crazy girl with the Cap'n Crunch sandwich, and that may or may not count as brunch. Andy had the milk though lol
he had a banana and cookies
If I had to choose between Cap'n Crunch or olive loaf in a sandwich, I go Cap'n Crunch too.
@@pattierotondo1108 I was literally thinking of a bowl of Cap'n Crunch 10 minutes before you said this. Crazy.
I'm removing 100 of your 104 sins because this movie was set on March 24, 1984, yet people like me (44F) and my nephew (27M) can recite this movie from start to finish. Almost 40 years later, people still love this movie. If it were remade, Claire would be an entitled Karen on antidepressants, John would be a member of the trench-coat mafia and suspected of having a gun in his locker instead of a guillotine, Andrew would have never gotten detention because he was a star athlete, Brian would have dropped shop class and put on yearbook staff or something to save his GPA and rendering his need for detention useless, and Allison wouldn't even be in school, much less gone to detention for no reason. Also, given that Allison's father drove a Cadillac back in 1984, it implies that her family has money and her Saturday would've been spent with her therapist, not detention.
Hopefully this classic will NEVER be remade and ruined!
Well said.
For the record, I was a twenty-something when this came out, so I (63F) can recite lines, as well as my son (21M).
Did anyone else feel their soul leave their body just a little with the number of sins taken off between this movie and today? 14:39
Oof
correct me if im young but u look like youd be way too young to feel old regarding the movie's age.
I'm not old, I'm just youth challenged.
My mother's old higschool library that she worked in looked exactly like this place except for it being 1 floor, the replacement was basically a hallway with some empty room for shelves which was criminal but hey, don't argue with the architect who builds highschools like college dorms
No sin for the upskirt scene? Not only does Bender look up Claire's skirt (not actually Molly Ringwald, she used a double for that scene), but it's heavily implied he touched her. I'm sure today he'd have gotten arrested after she shrieked after being molested under the table. Bender would have been caught, likely beat up by the vice principal and\or Andrew, and then arrested for sexual assault. What happens here? A few smacks on the arms by Claire, then she ends up falling for him. This is some Sean Connery as James Bond crap here.
I was in high school in the '80s. Guys did stuff like that all the time, and constantly got away with it. It was almost accepted as just a part of the teenage mating ritual. There was no "me too" movement back then.
@@Katatawnic Guess I was just taught better morals.
I would love to see these actors reunite to revisit these characters forty years later. It hardly even needs a plot. The Breakfast Club rents a cabin for the weekend for a forty year reunion. They sit around and talk. SOMEBODY MAKE THAT MOVIE!
I love this movie and was expecting to enjoy this video because of that, but then it turned into a hyper sensitive, lefty, PC sermon.
Ugh.
Get over it
It sucks when Cinema Sins starts giving WOKE lectures.
Just now getting to this movie? Apparently CinemaSins did, in fact, forget about them.
That joke is funnier than any of the ones in this video.
🤣🙌🙌🙌
Did you just sin this 80's movie for being the inspiration for modern movies being set in the 80's? +1 narrator sin for sinception.
80’s movies still has flaws, no matter if they are inspirational.
I was a wrestler, the most unbelievable part of this entire movie is andrew’s lunch. Yes we could and want to eat like that, but you sure as hell ain’t making weight that week!
Scrolled way to long to find another wrestler. Never seen anyone eat that much even when trying to go up a weight class or two.
@@miniair I'd like to think that even 40 years ago, he'd have been cut from the team for brutalizing his classmate. These days, of course, he'd be arrested for assault and battery and expelled for good.
This movie rocks, I was a rebel in high school and that character inspired me 😊
Plus got me into that song and I still love it when I hear it 🤣
Another classic that I hope is never re-made with a “modern” version. If so, I’d never watch it.
It would be impossible to remake this movie. Detentions don’t exist anymore. If a teacher attempts to give a student a detention, the student just tells the teacher to fuck off, and the parents will stand behind their son or daughter.
@@adjuster57 Not true, I'm a teacher and we have students in detention on a regular basis. You're simply mistaken on this point.
@@joshuaburba1048 Okay. When should I show up for detention?
@@adjuster57 Bless your heart, if that was an attempt at humor, you fell a little short. Better luck next time though.
And you would need to ask the administration when detentions are, as I have no idea. They used to be after school on Wednesdays, but that may have changed.
Have a good one.
@@joshuaburba1048 Hmmm. Wednesday’s are not good for me. That’s when I take my anti-sarcasm classes. I got detention there too once. Breakfast works for me!
Commenting to be super early
Christ... these "sins" aren't really anything wrong with the movie, just contextual jokes and SJW swipes at a bygone age. I miss the early days of this channel.
Bro. Most of your "mistakes" aren't mistakes at all. #1 Vernon says "Two months" with his fingers like that because he previously told Bender "Don't mess with the bull, you'll get the horns" and that is the bull horns signal. Cmon man....
The short answer, besides it is what they called Detention at John Hughes High School, is they are all meeting up at 7am, when or before most people would be having Breakfast, so the 'Club' (implying Detention is an organized extracurricular activity group) has its members all meet at Breakfast time.
We had Gates all around our high school just like in this movie. Especially near the cafeteria or gym
I legitimately wanna know why now lol was it for safety reasons? Like pre-Columbine?
@@devinowens7832 freshman year in 2014 the gates had to be removed in mine b/c of fire code. The reason being with them closed one can’t escape from a fire / can’t get to fire exits.
True story, my friend lost his virginity under the bleachers in the football field. Years later, it was still making the rounds. So yeah, flare gun? Not staying under the radar.
Not to mention if he would have set off a flare gun inside of the school. He would have been charged by the fire marshal if not for arson something close to it. As well as endangering the lives. I agreed the flare gun is ridiculous
Maybe people knew the flare gun went off but not whos locker it was.
@@fatallynx I doubt that would have happened in 1984.
Bizarrely, in 1985 it might have slipped under the radar. I can't speak much firsthand about high school in the mid 1980s, but a few years later, in early 1990s high school, one crazy fad was bomb threats. Not just that they were oddly commonplace, and not just in one specific region of the US. I remember with some friends and cousins my own age this happened with alarming frequency around 1992, 1993, in many different states. AND authorities treated them with little more than annoyance unless they caused meaningful damage. Like they didn't always make the newspapers when they happened, and it was fodder for jokes in graduation valedictorian speeches.
Actually, dehydration can also cause you to shit and vomit. Which in turn causes more dehydration. It's a gross, vicious cycle.
here's hoping no one in the comment section has to deal with that struggle. i cant imagine not having water at my disposable. i dont mean to get dramatic. but I feel for anyone who's had to suffer that.
Building on that sin deduction, and a little more… What it highlights is the value of The Breakfast Club as a documentation of how important it is to open up, how vital and enriching it can be to simply sit down and talk. Which, in turn, leads to greater forms of expression. One gets the feeling that when Vernon makes the order for our famous five to be silent and socially distant, he knows they won’t stick to it - bonding is a natural human need, not to mention that the vigilance Vernon would need to show to make sure they stick to his rules is arguably highly undesirable for someone who doesn’t exactly look happy to be there himself. Vernon’s even *dressed* better than you’d expect a teacher to be for a Saturday detention, possibly because he wants to present a good, and imposing, impression in front of the students - he’s as insecure, and as human, as they are.
Again, CinemaSins have enhanced my appreciation for a movie I already love. Previous instances were the Jaws and Shawshank Redemption videos.
Bro I think the accolades you gave right now are all you, not cinemasins 😂
@@cruzgomes5660 The sin deduction inspired me to write the post to begin with. So CS played their part.
I LOVED this movie when I first saw it many years ago. I could really relate to some of the kids in the film. As time passes, I am starting to relate to Vernon more and more. This is classic Turgenev's "Fathers and Sons", just American 80's style.
One of the biggest ironies about rewatchin stuff you were on the side of the kids/teens in when you first watched it now you're like fuck those kids
These days Vernon wouldn't even have a teaching job, or at least not for long. The way he behaved toward John, he'd be lucky if he didn't wind up arrested and on the news. Best thing teachers like that can do is to get the hell out of education before they're forced out, and find something else to do with their lives.
Movie: *Sincerely yours, The Breakfast Club*
Jeremy: *Roll Credits*
Me: That need at least a sin off, won't get that perfect timing next time
Bold of you to assume there’s anything wrong with the Breakfast Club
It was originally supposed to be called the Lunch Bunch but everyone hated the name and John Hughes heard about a school where they had early morning detention and they called that group the Breakfast Club so that is where the name came from.
Nitpicky, but the Ridgid calendar is probably there because set designers shopped at Home Depot a bunch. Real schools spread out some janitorial duties until the weekend for two reasons: (1) low-traffic for things like stripping/rewaxing floors and the like and (2) many schools require janitorial people to be there whenever the building is occupied (most often a union negotiation, but there can be services and liability issues as well).
The fact that you had to stretch to find sins makes me happy.
I watched this movie during 2020 lockdown and was SHOCKED to see you hadn't sinned this film yet!
Edit: this is the best cinema sins video I have seen in ages! Pretty much summarised how I feel about the whole film!
I grew up with this film in the 80's and really related to the teens. However, watching the film as an adult, I can relate a bit more to Mr. Vernon, as the teens' problems seem so shallow (relatively speaking). But it's all a matter of perspective, since everything on the planet becomes ultra-dramatic when you're in your teens.
I can't argue with that logic, but to me, Vernon *still* seems like a pompous @$$. 🙂
When you grow up, your heart dies.
Kids act like things are the worst thing that have ever happened to them, because they are.
Any conflict with parents is always difficult, especially for a young person who is virtually no power over their lives
this is a matter of egocentric bias in your case. You are not in that position anymore, and havent been for a while, so you lose sight and become incapable of putting yourself in their shoes. You become a dismissive boomer in other words
I struggle to imagine how Judd's and Allison's issues are in any way shallow. How is familial abuse shallow?
I’m not sure why he’s saying it’s set in the 80’s, it was made in the 80’s. Not a modern movie set in the 80’s.
Brian did black voice in weird science too lol
Also, my theory is that Vernon doesn't want to be there so he's just talking shit to make it seem like he cares about his job. Why else would he leave the kids alone the whole time? He's there on his say off too, you know?
What’s black voice?
@@nunya6346 It refers to the cliche way that people think that black people talk people talk. It has also changed over time. The crows in Dumbo and Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder are a great example of this.
@@nunya6346 i agree. Tbh, i don't find it racist if it for comedy.
“Black voice” and “homophobic insults”? Congratulations cinema sins! You just explained why ‘80’s movies kicked ass! They weren’t pussified like movies are today.
Be an asshole in Peru and prepare to be either locked up or shot down literally
This was the best teen movie of the 80s.
Allison seemed like a connected character, always enjoyed her style
One of my favourite movies! Please don't ruin it lol. Watching this with hopeful reluctance!
And what were your thoughts after
@Whitney--💞 Pervert.
Never understood why Vernon got nervous when Carl "caught" him reading confidential files. He was the vice principal and reading student files wasn't anything that could cause problems for him.
Because it was teacher and other staff files, not student files.
1 sin off for the picture the girl drew when she used her dandruff as snow. That shit was awesome
That's always grossed me right out lol.
I was waiting for this video for so long… One of my favorite movies!
Still one of the greatest movies ever made...
I was born in 1999 and in 7th grade we read and watched The Outsiders and I just happen to be looking at the time similar movies and found the Breakfast Club. When I tell you those two movies launched my obsession with 80s movies I am not kidding. Great movies.
You are like 22 and you have no idea what the world was like back then. Massive acne existed, the Cold War was on, you could buy a house for $40,000.
My high school in the 80’s had about 2000 students. The closest thing we had to this was in-school suspension & it would have 20-30 students each week. It was mostly for skipping class so there were more when the weather was nice. Detention was daily after school & was mostly for being late & it would have 50-100 students per day. The flare gun thing would have gotten a student suspended out of school. A bun-taping wrestler would have gotten a paddling by the vice principal then another by the wrestling coach. A football player would have just gotten a note sent home.
We has ISS for some things at my high school and Saturday detention for others. I got Saturday detention a few times for missing home room.🙄 I only showed up once. My mom called me in sick so we could go shopping the other times and I just never went after that.🤷♀️ I only had ISS once. Boring AF! I brought a book to both things. Idk how many students but the school is huge so I’d guess it’s pretty high. I graduated in 1991.
My kids went to the same school and they don’t have detention anymore at all. They just have the cops that are on duty at the school write out tickets for everything. They do not have good memories of high school like I do. They were happy to get out like they were finally released from prison.🤦♀️
Yeah, "black voice" is not a thing. It's called "an impression". Granted there are ways to do impressions of people or groups that can be offensive, but that wasn't one of them. Maybe stop looking for fake offenses.
This is the best birthday surprise I could ever get. Jeremy reviewing my favourite movie🤩 Thanks a bunch❤️❤️❤️
Nothing. Nothing is wrong with the Breakfast Club. It’s a perfect movie.
I fucking hate this movie
@@UnluckyGunner same. It's garbage.
maybe the nostalgia is just clouding your judgement. that's okay tho
@@UnluckyGunner Same. It's disappointing because it's so well-liked, but I could not get into it at all, and I watched it in my Sophmore year of college with roommates who love it
@Ziggy Spiderbot Probably a mandate by the producer or studio. “We want Emilio to end up with someone, and it can’t be the ugly hermit girl. Just shoot a makeover scene. It’ll be fine. It’ll read as ‘character development,’ or whatever you writers call it.”
The Greatest movie ever made that shows what it was like being in high school in the early 80s.
Good times
Definitely not as serious nor dramatic but FTARH did a pretty good job as well.
"EXCUSE ME SIR, CAN YOU BREAK THIS? (...a $50 bill)
That line from Claire Standish to Mr. Vernon, as she holds up a $50 dollar note when it's time for Andrew Cart to collect change from everybody to visit the soda vending machine with Allison, DIDN'T make the cut on the VHS, the BetaMax, the VideoDisc, the DVD, the BluRay or even the 'coveted' Criterion Collection Edition's "Treasure Chest" of Deleted Scenes.
I always wondered why?
Well, at least it made the version that was cut for ABC-TV & later aired on TNT.
Odder things have happened.
BCRadio
LOVE L O V E Cinema Sins - but have to give you a sin for saying "Is anyone else getting tired of modern movies being set during the '80s just so they can ram it full of references and nostalgia? God!" - because this IS an actual 80's movie and the music was of the times. DING
9:40 .....It's 12:25 ...not 12:35. Add a sin to @CinemaSins
It's called The breakfast club because they had detention on Saturday morning. As you pointed out at one point in the video. It was just afternoon toward the end.
Just a guess on my part.
Love your videos
You start your comment as if is a fact what you're talking only to say is a guess at the end lol
@@leonreborn1308 You should really eat an apple.
stopped 2 minutes in. this is a silly video.
Jesus, I'm old enough to remember when Jeremy didn't virtue signal how triggered he is any time a joke is made. Get some therapy my man, faking outrage for every 80's joke is just.. sad
I forgive you for being ignorant of the consequences of this film like inspiring rapists and assholes without soul