Forging a Rounding Hammer with my 24 Ton Forging Press!
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2020
- Wondering what that press I built is good for? Moving steel with ease. I decided to forge myself a small blacksmith's rounding hammer to show off the press and the improvements I've made to it.
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This is my hammer. There are many like it, but this one is mine. If you would like a hammer like my hammer, send me an email and commission one!
Hey I want that hammer and you pay me the box my house.
Hey that was really good work. I personally think you did a great job making it. Especially considering as you said it's only your 3rd hammer. I admire your willingness to learn and take risks. I also think you did a pretty decent job building that press.
Thank you, I’m glad you like it. The press needs a tuneup, but it works well.
Yet again, a great video.
Hit the faces of hammer to release the punch. Great work!
Great video!
i like the process of "it aint perfect but good enough for me" i would be proud of that if mine turned out that we;;.
just found the making anvil vid today somehow, and love your channel bro! please don't change a thing, and keep up the great work!
Really sweet hammer man
just tumbled upon your chanel. And I just want you to know that i really like the way you do your vidoes. keep it up !
Dude, sweet hammer!
I'd love to make a hammer like that one day
Nice
Holy mother of God.lol
that was a good hammer video
Thanks! :D
I stopped taking you serious at 58 seconds. Moving on
That turned out pretty nice. The only suggestion I have is maybe make a drift with less of a taper so it doesn't widen the outter part of the eye so much. I would be better if the whole eye contacts the wood. However, it did turn out nice and that is suits your needs is all that is really important.
Thanks! Yeah that drift is not good. It’s also too rounded, so when shaping the cheeks, it kicks the hammer head off too easily. On the top, the wedges make the wood touch all around (I added a metal one later), but you’re right - on the bottom it doesn’t quite touch. Part of that is also how I cut the handle.
If I start making them more often I’ll probably make or get a nice tool steel drift
Howdy sirSir...ben a while lolololol
Ok 1st off 😂 hey no fair using a press lmbo! No kidding you it's a really nice hammer.
Your 2 up on me. I've only made the one in class with Daniel Moss . What a learning experience that was.
I like the way you left in the temporary colors. Find that pleasing to the eye. Really nice job sirSir.
🙏 blessed be now
Crawford out 🧙♂️
P.s. hey if you want some really nice punch line check out Drasons Forge here on UA-cam. JT Barrett's a great guy and has a good formula he's looking for Smith's to test out and give feed back on.
Just a sugestion for ya
Yes it has. Next video should be sooner and I’ll show off some of what I’ve been up to.
I’m subscribed to JT’s channel, but I rarely have time to watch these days. What’s the thing? A recipe for punch?
@@BennettTheSmith well hes made some up for some folks to test out. Hes looking for good feed back b4 he releases it or rather the formula. Bet hed send you some to test out probably for the cost of shipping. Heck I'll cover that if you want to try it out.
Good job on the hammer. It looks great. I am very curious about your press. It looks to move pretty fast. I want to make a press from a log splitter myself. Would you make another brief video describing your construction details, and control lever fine points? Did you stiffen up the beam. Several other similar presses I've seen on U-tube flex the beam under load. Thanks
I'm guessing you saw my press build video after posting this comment, but let me add some details. I’m also planning on overhauling/rebuilding the thing in the next year and will do a video on that.
For control I made a janky foot pedal, hinged off the table legs and attached it via a long piece of rebar that bolts onto the handle. (actually I replaced the handle with a piece of flatbar, but w/e). Theres a big screen door type spring that loads the foot pedal in the upwards direction and I took the spring out of the valve. This would mean the press is always trying to go all the way up, but I also built a simple adjustable stop system so it wouldn’t go too far. The end result is you only have to step on the pedal to make it go down and let go to retract it, much nicer than having to pivot your foot between up and down.
The beam does bend, especially as the metal gets colder. I’m planning to double up the I-beam when I do the rebuild. It doesn’t matter that much in terms of how much work it can do, but it does apply forces unevenly which you have to account for when forging.
The guides need a major overhail, I’m not going to try and describe my plan here. They worked well enough for a long time with only minor changes. I put some strips of brass on the wear surfaces to shim things out and help it be a little smoother.
The speed could be lowered by using a slower motor, but I actually like it that fast. A press forms the metal to the dies as it is forging the metal, which means it has a LOT of good contact to pull heat out. The faster the press moves, the less time its pulling heat out of the metal.
Overall, the super simple way I built it worked excellently for a LONG time, but there is also a lot of room for improvement.
@@BennettTheSmith Ha! Yes, I didn't see your press build video on my first look at your videos. I have been trying to decide whether to build a power hammer or a press but I think the press is the way to go for now. Repurposing a log splitter seems like a great short cut. Especially if I can find one cheap with a dead engine like you did.
have you considered stiffening the I-beam with an 8x8 heavy wall square tube welded to the back of the I-beam and then utilizing that 8x8 as the hydraulic oil tank? Maybe add a couple of heavy bars welded inside of the front bar of the I-beam. I would like to shrink the foot print as much as I can and put the motor and pump down inside the base.
The guides seam like a weak link in a number of the press build videos that I've seen. I have seen some power hammers that utilize adjustable brass shims but they wear away over time. I've been thinking about how I might use some bearings that roll up and down the beam. Four in the front of the I-beam. Two at the top and two at the bottom of the guide plate and them two behind the front bar of the I-beam but in the center of the guide plate. Make the two in the back adjustable to accommodate for wear.
I like the zippy travel speed on your press. I would like to make one as fast as possible. I have worked with hydraulics a little bit, working on tractors. If you can reduce any constrictions in the flow path it seems to make a difference in speed and temperature . Like going to larger diameter hoses and fittings/adapters or using oversized solid pipe instead of hose where applicable. I wonder how much difference just going with a larger HP motor would make on speed. Your 5hp seems like plenty enough power to replace the 6.5hp gas engine. Would a 7hp motor speed up the ram? Does your fluid get hot after running your press for a long time?
@hillwooky I've got another section of I Beam that I plan to use, but I don't see why you couldnt stiffen it with the oil tank. I am going to be putting the pump and motor down low, along with the tank. Mostly to try and lower the center of gravity but also to try and contain the noise.
I won’t say it isn’t possible, but I will say that in my research I couldn’t find any presses that use ball bearings. I think it comes down to surface area. putting that much stress in that small area is a bad plan. I’m going to use two 1” square, precision ground bars as my new guide ways. They will be set on the 45 relative to the press head and two heavy duty right angle “clamps” will tighten around them. I highly suggest running the math on the materials you plan to use. Also, I welded my die reciever to the bottom of the splitting wedge. DONT do that. take off the wedge and get your die receiver right up close to where the piston attaches. That will minimize the leverage the dies have to pull to one side or the other.
A higher HP motor wont make the ram go any faster. The speed of travel has to do with pump rpm (I believe). So you’d either have to get a bigger pump, that moves more fluid per revolution (and then you’d need more HP to run it), or a motor with more rpm. I wouldnt go faster than mine though, its already easy to squish too hard on some things. No idea if my fluid gets hot, I dont have a temp gauge and so far all the fluid has stayed inside the machine! I only have it one while actively pressing though. So the duty cycle is quite forgiving, I doubt the fluid heats up much.
Thats another quality of life change I made, put the damn switch on the front of the machine! ha! Now I can switch it on and off when I bring the metal out of the forge. I might add a two stage foot pedal, so the machine can be switched on, but wont actually run the motor unless my foot is on the pedal…
I've got some coil spring from a railroad engine about the same thickness or a bit larger diameter, I prefer to square it before punching the eye so it doesn't roll when the press is punching the hole.🤥
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Came out really nice! Too bad those nice colors scratch off.
They last a surprisingly long time on the sides of the hammer, but yeah. I need to experiment with doing pendants with heat coloring and clear coating.
Will you make some tongs in another video please?
I suppose I could do that. If I can make time for that, any type of tongs in particular?
@@BennettTheSmith dude that would be awesome, I don't personally have a preference, maybe a pair you need the most, lol
How do you not have more subscribers?
Haven’t been at it long enough I suppose. But it’ll get there :)
Dam brothers, always trying to steal the lime light
I heard that melted beeswax is good as a lubricant for punching.
I am a small channel as well I am showing you some support. Just Subscribed ✌🇺🇸
Sooooo does this mean that it's.......Hammer Time?
I’m a blacksmith. It’s always hammer time.
@@BennettTheSmith valiiiiiiid 🤣🤣🤣
Would of been nice to of seen you Not use the lathe,as most people don't have one. But hey ho. Well done none the less.
I suppose, but I was struck by the questionable idea fairy. "Wait... what if..." I didn't think I could safely chuck it in to the lathe and now I know I can! And thanks!
And by hammer...
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...if I didnt know any better, I'd think you've seen a few of AVEs vidjaos
Heh. I’ve watched a few, but I wasn’t intentionally referencing him. I’m curious what made you say that? I can be a bit of a mimic without noticing it. That’s my accent/voice kinda shifts around sometimes. Somebody thought I was from Chicago once... never even been there.