Ren - Su!clde | Poet's Reaction & Analysis
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Su!clde by Ren is an amazing song. In my reaction and analysis, I share my thoughts on this sad yet relatable tale of mental health struggle.
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Have loved watching your Ren reactions ever since Hi Ren - hopefully you’re aware of the current situation between Ren and Kujo, and why Ren’s album title track Sick Boi has been removed from all streaming channels and is no more. If not Ren explains all in a video - which is really worth watching, especially as it gives context to a new track he’s dropping this Thursday (5th)
He’s lost Sick Boi forever which totally fucking sucks, however the reactor community is getting behind him and I know, as a supporter Ren’s music, you’d want the heads up that he’s getting it all off his chest in a diss track and will want to be in on the action. Thanks
The first song portion was indeed about his own struggle with suicidal thoughts. It had been completed and slated for release. The spoken word at the end about his friend was added after he had an interview with Knox Hill and told the story about Joe for the first time. He felt the song was incomplete and said this portion just poured out, and he added it on at the last moment. Ren has said he's had issues with depression since he was a child and that he was bullied in his youth.
Thank you for providing this background information. It was very helpful.
You explained it way better than I did. That knox interview was hard to listen to, my heart broke for him.
I was going to bring that up because I watched that interview. You said it very well. Thanks.
the pig mask is the "uncomfortable companion" that represents his pain, struggles and illness which has been an integral part of his life (ua-cam.com/video/8xFChmxavJw/v-deo.html)
I like how different people interpret it. It makes you think. Ren is a true artist.
If you don't know, his childhood friend/brother jumped off a bridge. He felt he was last by just moments to stop it. See the song. For Joe.
I’ll have to react that next. Thank you for the background information and thank you for the recommendation.
Please listen to 'FOR JOE'
The end is about his real friend who he lost. He missed him jumping by minutes. He talks about it in interviews, you can find them on here. It's a really sad story. He pours his heart out on everything he does but this is a hard listen when you know about the ending.
The Pig is not a representation of anything external. See how he made the Pig be his own reflection in the mirror? There's your answer.
"Point the mirror at ourselves, we're all part of this old money game..."
Ren did speak of it in one of the interviews
didn't he say it is directly influenced by George Orwell's "animal farm" also?
That's why I love Ren. He puts his raw emotion into his music then releases it to the world, maybe letting it go bit by bit to heal, but also for others to relate to and heal along with. Could be anger and frustration, tears or ugly crying, thoughtful or introspective, and then something completely just funny and joyful.
Ren had stated that he couldn't live another year sick with no answers before the incident with Joe. Afterwards, seeing the effects it had on Joe's family, he realized he could not cause his family this pain.
Next to a musician, I like hearing writers react to Ren. His lyrics go beyond "bars". They are poetic expression from his soul. Thanks for doing this!
For Joe is the sequel it has fhe 2nd half of the song at the beginning and it builds on from there
I'm almost 50, and I have been dealing with suicidal tendencies since my teenage years. My favorite band is named Suicidal Tendencies, and I have it tattooed across my back. It has been the musicians who have talked about their experiences that have kept me from feeling so alone in this world. Ren has quickly become one of my favorite artists in the past few years.
Im glad you’re hanging out with us :)
@@LeeannG I have a sister named Leanne
It’s great to be in your company, so happy you’ve stayed with us. I resonate with your words and it’s also music and particularly Ren, that keep me fighting on. Big love to you ❤
A lovely bookend to this song is For Joe. It's beautiful.
In the English Dictionary Pigheaded means stupidity obstinate. Ren could definitely feel this about the medical profession.
Music had always been my therapy. I have bi polar, major depressive disorder, etc plus chronic health problems. Also have kids and partner with chronic health problems. Bern over medicated for over 20 years. Actually came off all prescriptions a few months ago, and am actually coming out of the fog that ive been in for years. What was good for me 20 years ago (and it was needed) may not be good for me now. All the meds were and are affecting my physical health, badly. Finally getting my crap together so that i can hopefully be around to help my kids and husband deal with theirs for a bit longer (hopefully more than a bit but, I'll feel blessed with just a bit more time. I mean how can you get better, if yoy j6st always wearing band aids?? You've got to pull those band aids off so that you can heal. If i cant learn to deal wiith my diseases, ill never get better. Sorry for going all over the place. Awessome reaction! can geal
I am so glad you got around to doing this.
Ren talks about the meaning of the pig mask in an interview with Zack Sang. An excerpt can be found hier: "Ren Reveals The Meaning Behind The Pig Mask"
Well… what did he say???? Spoil me
@@YoungbloodPoetry It's not that easy to summaries. Check out the video it's just 2:16 😉.
This song hit me hard… I was on the phone with my best friend trying to convince him not to do it… I miss him every day…
As a recovering addict who feels she effd her life up completely and it's too late to do anything meaningful I cry whenever I hear this song. I've lost so many friends to o,d's ingfact I recently lost my foster brother and it broke me. But I find power in Rens music. There's just something about the way he writes , so honestly and raw that kindaa reminds me of me and the way I portray my emotions to people I meet. I am very careful with my words but I'm not gonna lie and say that the S word doesn't tempt me sometimes.
@@katedavies5698 keep fighting that fight. Won't be easy, as you know, but you got this
@@GabeHornne aww thankyou sweetheart - that's so kind of you to say. Truly apperciated x no regrets just lessons learned x
@@katedavies5698 exactly ;) 💯
@@katedavies5698 you seem to me so wise and insightful. Like Ren, your experience can make you stronger and compassionate to others struggles…. Stay Strong my friend ❤️❤️❤️
@@shirleycarter2231 what a beautiful response to such a raw comment. thnakyou darling x i actually write myself and even visit schools to tell kids about the reality of addiction so I guess you're right. I would never ever want anyone elseto go through the things I put myself through x big love back to you
🙌🏼 After hundreds of listens, I can now listen to this song without crying 25% of the time.
I really enjoyed your reaction, very insightful and articulate. Good luck with your journey into nursing, the medical profession needs people like you. Cheers from the UK.
There's one line in the song, "I miss you and I miss myself" that flipped a switch in my brain and made me view the act as mass murder. So, it's no longer an option
He was doing both. The first part is to do with wider society's and Ren's suicidal thoughts/actions. The second part is addressing the suicide of his best friend, Joe. Bringing the impact of suicide right into your face, via poetic imagery and raw emotion!
The skulls morph into faces. Not the other way around.... Worth noting ❤
I recently had a very close friend commit suicide and hearing this for the first time broke my soul. I could handle the song initially because it reminded me of my own experience with suicidal thoughts but once we got to the loss section I almost fell to my knees. We were friends for around 20 years and she’ll forever be in my heart. We love you Sharray RIP.
I’ve always interpreted the “split lip” line as a reference to getting punched in the face by Lyme Disease
Subed for much more Ren! "For Joe" should be next. It is kinda follow-up to this song!
pig mask. I remember reading somewhere that he had found it when shooting a video. I am not sure if he truly had a meaning behind it In the beginning. as more people asked he didn't give an answer u think he liked that people could give it their own meaning.
but it cought the collective curiosity, and it became a stellar marketing symbol.
I feel the pig could be a stand-in for institutionalized greed maybe?
I think of the Pig Man as the devil on your shoulder. The "friend" that's not really a friend, but always there when it's time to be self-destructive. But the Pig Man isn't only there for me or you, but society as well.
"I miss missing that, I numbed myself to close the gap / I never even call them up, the distance is my plaster cast." A plaster cast, not a Band-Aid, but something more durable, something that can hold together broken things. Ugh! ❤️
I think the pig represents authortive greed and incompetence in general.
Thank you for continuing to react and support my favourite artist ever I love your reactions and also your work sending big love from the UK ❤❤❤
If you look up this clip titled
"Ren Reveals The Meaning Behind The Pig Mask" from the Zach Sang show clips
Unfortunately YT doesn't allow me to put links even to there own site on here or else I'd put the actual link for you. ✌.
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very good stuff.
Had has long spoken word pieces also. I would recommend Eden.
Thanks for a great reaction. I'm not sure if anyone replied to your question about the video. But yes. Ren did mention that this video was his first look into AI. Also, I'm sure many people have explained about the pig mask, but my understanding is that it represents capitalism and greed.
Its pretty wild if it wasn’t for that tick none of us would have heard these bangers
Always enjoy your Ren reactions 👏👏
Ren spoke about the pig in an interview with Zack Sang explaining it for the first time.
Thank you for doing this one.
In "Hi Ren", he references early experiences with psychosis at the age of 17.
It was during chapter 1-8 he mentioned he was 23 or 24 when he went into a stress induced psychosis. One of his episodes he was dragging himself on the kitchen floor and scratching at the laminate flooring (Seven sins) when his mother caught him.
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Ren says he doesn't like to interpret his work for others, but I heard him say in an interview somewhere (sorry, I've watched so many, I can't remember which one) that the pig image is a symbol of his illness and everything associated with it including his treatment. Interestingly, he said that its significance to him is emotionally ambiguous. He has lived with it for so long that it has become familiar; 'at times' it can sometimes feel almost comforting like a friend, a positive presence. Presumably, at other times, it is anything but.
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About the pig mask, I can't help but think of Animal Farm and what the pig represents there. But i dunno.
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