Engine Building Part 12 - Installing an Edelbrock Performer Dual Plane Intake Manifold SBC 350

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  • @kyne96
    @kyne96 6 років тому +40

    I like your videos because if something doesn’t go to plan it’s not edited out, it’s left in to teach others what to do (or what not to do). Great video as always!

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  6 років тому +3

      Thanks Kyne. Everyone makes mistakes or has problems, I would not be honest or be helping anyone if I said I didn't.

    • @pamelarambally123
      @pamelarambally123 4 роки тому

      @@PetesGarage how to time a td27 pump

    • @iqinsanity
      @iqinsanity 3 роки тому

      @@PetesGarage l km

  • @dps2106
    @dps2106 3 роки тому +8

    So appreciate you showing how to handle things when they don’t go perfectly!

  • @vintageG1985
    @vintageG1985 2 роки тому +1

    At first I thought "this guy serious put all the effort into production and is using the factory wall gaskets you're kidding me?!" Then when I saw you run into the problem and fix it I was really impressed because most channels do not show mistakes and fixes. Kudos to doing a great video

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Nathan, I knew that was going to happen which is why I showed it.

  • @arthurfricchione8119
    @arthurfricchione8119 3 роки тому +1

    Pete your videos are the best on engine building. Really enjoy them. Brings me back to when I was a teen working on a 327 cu in dual quad 4 speed and had a 456 rear. Oh and it was a 57 Chevy. Fun times.just went to the Chevy dealer a purchased whatever you needed. No science just fun and speed 👍🇺🇸

  • @Campbase1
    @Campbase1 5 років тому +1

    Thanks Pete, I got several great "take-a-ways" from your video.

  • @Heavy_metal_rulez
    @Heavy_metal_rulez 6 років тому +16

    Never used those gaskets before, but I really do how you didn't edit out that part and showed what can happen! Excellent video as always Pete!

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  6 років тому +3

      The goal here is to teach, and this is a common problem so I showed it

  • @tjhamer3
    @tjhamer3 6 років тому +17

    great video Pete. I have never liked those gaskets. But having said that i have made lots of money fixing that leak the way you did. Great stuff Pete

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  6 років тому +4

      It was a good training video. It's almost like the gasket came on out purpose ; )

  • @williammoster1287
    @williammoster1287 4 роки тому +6

    I use the sealer on corners only when using the end gaskets. I think that sealer acts like lubrication on the rubber letting it shift. Been putting these engines together since they had points. But still looking to learn something new. Great job.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому +1

      It's always an adventure, thanks William

    • @donefedup2208
      @donefedup2208 3 роки тому +2

      what, their something other than points

  • @edwardgrabinsky6369
    @edwardgrabinsky6369 6 років тому +1

    Pete your the man. Thanks for providing so much awesome content.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  6 років тому

      Thank you for watching Edward

  • @77kiziah
    @77kiziah 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks Pete. Very good job on the video, I have watched several on this topic and , by far, yours is the best. I subscribed to your channel! Keep up the good honest work, sir.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      Thank you very much and thanks for watching

  • @steveball711
    @steveball711 Рік тому +8

    You should never use silicone on a rubber end seal because it acts as a lubricant and allows the gasket to squeeze out. You should just use the silicone by itself without the rubber seals. Also, you never let the sealant dry a bit before assembly like you indicated.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Steve

    • @Gesu_925
      @Gesu_925 6 місяців тому

      Nah that's how I've always done it get it tacky then drop the intake

  • @johnavery4449
    @johnavery4449 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for the very informative videos. I don't know a lot about engines but you cleared up a lot for a novice.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      That's my goal John. Help everyone who wants to learn.

    • @timwalgren8100
      @timwalgren8100 3 місяці тому

      No anti seize?

  • @donaldbattle4
    @donaldbattle4 3 роки тому

    Love the detail on this it helps tremendously

  • @curayagmma
    @curayagmma 2 роки тому

    Very patient when that gasket came out and you cleaned up everything after to do it again, great vid

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 роки тому

      I left that in to show how to fix it, thanks!

  • @JohnComeOnMan
    @JohnComeOnMan 6 років тому +6

    Man, you laid that sealant on the heads like a surgeon. Almost as if you've done it before. ;)

  • @erictinnis8703
    @erictinnis8703 4 роки тому

    Back about 40+ years ago ,on my Ford 390, I had problem sealing after market aluminum valve covers on. The gaskets would eventually squish out. I used a trick from Hot Rod magazine: drill some small holes at the sealing surface for metal coat hanger that is cut off at an angle to leave a slight "tooth" to bite the gasket. I've used this on valve covers and China wall gaskets. Worked great back in the day of lo tech gaskets.

  • @jerryrichter4904
    @jerryrichter4904 5 років тому +1

    perfect pete like always

  • @angelachance6123
    @angelachance6123 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the video . Will be doing the exact same thing soon for the first time

  • @DarthMayers
    @DarthMayers 2 роки тому

    Thanks for another great teaching video 😎

  • @mikecesa4444
    @mikecesa4444 3 роки тому

    Great video. Rebuiding a 1970 Monte Carlo with a small block 400. Went with NKB aluminum heads and a 2701 Edelbrock performer. Will install same way. Skip White Performance that sold me the heads suggests the 1205 or 1206 gaskets for intake, as one is thicker. Not sure until I set it up. But, this video is a great example. Thanks!

  • @adriantomlin2902
    @adriantomlin2902 4 роки тому +2

    A very detailed and informative video Pete! First time I have watched any of your videos. I think I have to pull my manifold on my 71 Nova with a 350. I believe the rear of the manifold to block seal is leaking.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      I hate when that happens

    • @adriantomlin2902
      @adriantomlin2902 4 роки тому +1

      @@PetesGarage yea I hear ya. It sucks. But I drive my stuff, so stuff happens.

  • @sbirdranch
    @sbirdranch 2 роки тому

    Thanks Pete. I just bought a motor/car with this intake and it is leaking bad at the rear intake seal. I looked up the Edelbrock installation instructions and they say in all caps to NOT use the end seals gaskets. Well I watched a little further and now I know why. Thanks again. ~P ps - If your interested a walk around on the car/motor is on my channel.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 роки тому

      Nice looking car....gotta love the screw in the vacuum line

    • @sbirdranch
      @sbirdranch 2 роки тому +1

      @@PetesGarage LMAO! You saw that!!! Ya...not there any more. The sparkler show was the #7 spark plug wire blowing up against the manifold. In case you wundered. ~P

  • @oscarpuente2029
    @oscarpuente2029 Рік тому

    outstanding!

  • @derekquintero6252
    @derekquintero6252 4 роки тому

    I just did this today....I'm pulling it ALL back out in the morning I mess it up big time according to this proper video Happy memorial day yall

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      That's how we learn, thanks Derek

  • @beesplace620
    @beesplace620 6 років тому +4

    I used those front and rear manifold gaskets on my sbc. Last weekend my neighbour pointed out that the front gasket looks like it’s pushed out? After looking closer, not only did it push out, but it split. Now I have to go back and reinstall the intake manifold. Lesson learned, and I won’t be using those black rubber gaskets again.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  6 років тому

      Great lesson learned. Thanks for sharing that with us.

  • @rubenesquivel7350
    @rubenesquivel7350 5 років тому

    Cool instructions Pete. I'm about to overhaul a 4.0 Bosch engine out of a 1999 Range Rover. I will watch your videos a couple more times. So I make the Right plan on.to have everything I need .This will be my first build .Your videos give me the confidence to tackle it.Any advise you got will be grateful.thank you for your time!

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      That is a fun engine to rebuild. Check to make sure the parts fit

  • @ranbow2316
    @ranbow2316 Рік тому

    Great video guy!

  • @kimmorrison9169
    @kimmorrison9169 2 роки тому

    nope, things don’t go exactly as planned alright. Surprised that a few thousands of an inch make the gasket not fit as intended. Live and learn! Thank you Pete😊

  • @warrenstephens3705
    @warrenstephens3705 5 років тому +4

    Most people would have edited out the gasket fail and just put "I never use the supplied gasket, I just use silicon" or "I just use silicon and heres why" showing the gasket pouched out.
    You just came up a couple more notches in my book for being honest and human because I've had this happen to me many times. Honestly the only way I've ever gotten those rubber gaskets to work is to silicon them on the bottom (only) as you did and give it a few hours (or the next day) for the silicon to set up and then continue as you did. I wished I stayed as calm as you do......:-)

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому +3

      Thanks Warren. This is a learning channel and everyone learns from mistakes. A failure is just an opportunity to learn. Thanks for your comment

  • @darthvader4hire
    @darthvader4hire 5 років тому +2

    dad had an engine shop back in the day...GM actually STOPPED using those manifold to block gaskets and used a bead of dope instead. they used an orange color with an X mark thru and thru the sealed surface.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому +1

      Interesting, thanks for sharing that

  • @falc302
    @falc302 3 роки тому

    good points on there. Even though this is a Chevy, it's still informative on a 302 I'm working on.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  3 роки тому

      I try to make videos that apply to most engines

  • @matthewcalifana488
    @matthewcalifana488 4 роки тому +1

    Hello Pete we had a same problem to fix it glued two intake gaskets together .

  • @lerch122
    @lerch122 4 роки тому +2

    i had the same problem and will use just use sealant at the ends.My heads have had a lot taken off them

  • @johnd5805
    @johnd5805 6 років тому +1

    Just the video I needed on a Saturday night while I eat this deer vegetable soup.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  6 років тому

      Awesome.... deer vegan soup

    • @oz_medias
      @oz_medias 5 років тому

      I've never eaten a deer vegetable. Do they grow on the side of the road and just roll out in front of your car at the last minute? :O

  • @socalthings8193
    @socalthings8193 4 роки тому +1

    Subbed!

  • @oz_medias
    @oz_medias 5 років тому +1

    This is where RTFM comes into play. The instructions provided with Edelbrock manifolds say not to use end gaskets, just use RTV.
    Mr.Gasket and FelPro kits include the end gaskets but the manifold specific Edelbrock 2701 kit, just has side gaskets and includes a small tube of RTV. Rubber gaskets seem to always slip and leak.
    From Edlebrock installation instructions: *_Do not use cork or rubber end seals. Use RTV silicone sealer instead._* *_Apply a_* *¼"* *_high bead across each block end seal surface,overlapping the intake gasket at the four corners._* *_This method will eliminate end seal slippage._*

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      Always read the instructions. I put it in to show people what can happen with those end gaskets.

    • @oz_medias
      @oz_medias 5 років тому

      I get it and you are 100% correct. Sad to think that, nowadays, people need to watch a video because they can't follow the provided instructions though.

    • @65cruisr
      @65cruisr 4 роки тому

      The typical gasket instructions also state to install the gaskets dry...no gasket maker on the intake to head gaskets. The same thing that happened to the rail can and does happen to the intake gasket, causing it to distort into the port or even tear the gasket itself...resulting in vacuum and/or coolant leaks They make high tack gasket sealants for holding the intake gasket in place during installation. Another good option to prevent gasket failures is to upgrade the gasket itself to a gasket with a steel laminated core...like many factory style gaskets have been for a while now.

  • @northerniltree
    @northerniltree Рік тому

    Like that powdercoated manifold. Paint sucks. Great video. Thanks for being chill!

  • @vox1966
    @vox1966 2 роки тому

    Edelbrock recommends using their gaskets they are .060 thick and using bead of sealer front and back had to take off manafold when I bought my Chevy it had antifreeze in the intake when I pulled off carb they used Felpro and they leaked also rubber slid out front and back

  • @MrBmoll5858
    @MrBmoll5858 4 роки тому

    Sorry to say when you were putting the front and back gaskets on. Bad ideal, good video Thanks for all your advice. Don't get upset stay cool.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      That's why I show it, so people know what happens if you do

  • @mariozermeno2649
    @mariozermeno2649 4 роки тому

    Hi Pete , great video I like the fact that you explained why that gasket bulged out the way it did . I have SBC on my stand right now and I took the intake off ( edlebrock) soni could clean the water ports, what's the best way too clean them out? Thanks again Pete!😎

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      Hi Mario, rinse the ports with water. See if you can get a long brush in as many ports as possible

  • @johnp9235
    @johnp9235 5 років тому

    outstanding work with the silicone Mr Pete. I end up looking like a 3 year old even after I've just looked at the stuff

  • @HowardGoldman
    @HowardGoldman 2 місяці тому

    Good stuff. I'm going to need this knowledge when I change out my Air Gap to a standard Performer for hood clearance. My AMC 401 engine has what appear to be custom machined aluminum spacers at the front and back under the intake manifold that I assume the builder required to make everything fit the Indy heads. Hopefully they did not machine the Air Gap.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 місяці тому +1

      That makes it very difficult. You'll have to check the fitment of all parts to make sure

  • @robe6327
    @robe6327 Рік тому

    I like your vídeos some videos I’ve seen they don’t add rvt around the water ports .

  • @backcountryboondockers
    @backcountryboondockers 4 роки тому

    The vapor locking special. Stay with stock cast iron or go air gap. That exhaust crossover causes vapor locking

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому +1

      Interesting, thank you

    • @backcountryboondockers
      @backcountryboondockers 4 роки тому +1

      Not that your heads have the exhaust ports. Just saying. Exhaust crossover is a problem with percolating gas in todays ethanol gas

  • @johnduvall5
    @johnduvall5 Рік тому

    Watched en all so far was there one where the push rods were installed and lashed?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/ZaTnud3IKAI/v-deo.html

  • @pacoperkid13
    @pacoperkid13 4 роки тому +2

    I have thoroughly enjoyed your videos! I have a soft top 66 bonneville 389 I'm starting to develop a plan for. Seeing your dual quad setup here got me curious about options for mine and I saw that edelbrock made a dual quad intake for it. I want to stroke it and do some other witchcraft to it. For a car that will stay off the strip. Would a dual quad setup be overkill? It interested me for the potential but also the wow factor.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому +2

      Dual quads are nice, you can use 2 small ones no problem

    • @pacoperkid13
      @pacoperkid13 4 роки тому

      @@PetesGarage Ok, That's what I was kinda thinking along the lines of. I just have to keep the CFM in the neighborhood of what it would typically want to keep the vacuum where it should be right ? I did see on an episode of Engine Masters when they compared a dual quad to a tri-power, which would be the other idea, that they didn't really gain anything power wise over a normal setup but were more thirsty. I think they just had two full size Edelbrocks on there though... They showed in another one the effects of using too big a carb which also showed that issue since it wasn't mixing well from not enough vacuum.

  • @billyferguson5881
    @billyferguson5881 5 років тому +3

    Pete another great video sir hey Pete I have one question when you started torquing the bolts you had a message flash on the screen that said universal joints will affect the torque?? What do you mean by that ?? As always thank you sir

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому +1

      Thanks Billy. If you use a universal joint and turn it on an angle, you will not torque the fastener fully. That universal uses up some of the energy.

    • @billyferguson5881
      @billyferguson5881 5 років тому +1

      Ok Thanks for telling me that!! Keep up the good work sir!!

  • @ralphvalkenhoff2887
    @ralphvalkenhoff2887 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Pete, what are your thoughts on letting the sealant set up a bit before installing the manifold?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      You can, but put a skim coat on the manifold to make sure it seals

  • @johnschuster9192
    @johnschuster9192 3 роки тому

    I learned the hard way just like you....then i put the gaskets in dry except the corners and water jackets...all the engine builders use a big bunch of gasket caulk and no seals front and back...It failed for me and i let it set 12 hrs...

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  3 роки тому

      That's how everyone learns....lol

  • @USARAY1947
    @USARAY1947 4 роки тому +1

    If milling the block puts the heads closer, will it then cause the manifold intake runners to be misaligned with the intake ports or misalign the water ports?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому +1

      Yes it will. Depending how much is milled it will also cause the bolts holes to be off.

  • @backyardbuilttrucks1
    @backyardbuilttrucks1 4 роки тому +1

    Any time you put a steel bolt into aluminum ( dissimilar metals ) you put Anti-seize on the threads so you dont roll the threads .

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      Only if you plan on taking it apart. If you do use Anti-seize make sure you adjust the torque for the lubricity.

    • @adriantomlin2902
      @adriantomlin2902 4 роки тому

      @@PetesGarage very true!

  • @USMC-Sniper-0137
    @USMC-Sniper-0137 4 роки тому

    My 262 4.3 Performer looks very similar but must be a few inches shorter LOL..... I don't know why they didn't make a front and rear end gasket set!!!! Would be nicer than a bead of Ultra Copper to set the manifold on! ONLY use gasket sealer where your end gaskets meet your intake gaskets!! I have had no issues after following directions.

  • @jaseman32
    @jaseman32 5 років тому +1

    Isn't it a bad idea to remove bolts to install brackets after the gaskets have been torqued and the RTV has dried?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      Not as long as you do not disrupt the parts. If you follow the torque specs and tightening pattern it shouldn't be an issue. I've never had a problem.

  • @zAvAvAz
    @zAvAvAz Рік тому

    The EPS rules! Luke says "that is a performer intake" ole ben obie wan then says "That is no performer intake. That is a performer EPS intake. Not a performer RPM intake, and not the performer intake".

  • @nhbowtie
    @nhbowtie Рік тому

    Great video... I'll be doing this in a few weeks. My gasket kit came with cork end gaskets. What are your thoughts on those? Thanks

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Рік тому +1

      Cork are fine, just do not over tighten

  • @annferguson5433
    @annferguson5433 5 років тому +2

    Great video sir. I have to put the same intake onto a 350 engine my friend bought the MSD EFI KIT. do you have any recommendations on anything besides what they tell you in the instructions?? Return fuel line? Removing springs from the distributor? The truck 1986 Chevy. With 700R4. They put a cam in it when he bought it but I’m not for sure which one. The truck belongs to a really good friend of mine he don’t have any kids or anything and I just want to make sure that I do the best job I can do when installing this kit!! Thank you sir!!

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      You will always, usually have to put the lighter springs in the distributor to get the right vacuum advance. I would follow the instructions as close as possible unless you run into a problem. MSD has pretty good tech support if you need help.

    • @billyferguson5881
      @billyferguson5881 5 років тому

      Thank you Pete!!

  • @jerryneal3245
    @jerryneal3245 5 років тому +1

    I'm performing this same project for a corvette. I don't have much hood clearance and plan to use the Holly Sniper EFI. Do you know the exact model of this intake?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      This is the Edelbrock Performer 2701 manifold. I can tell you the factory air cleaner will not fit under the hood with this manifold. The Sniper unit is the same height as a carb.

  • @jeremydeaderick1324
    @jeremydeaderick1324 3 місяці тому

    So I installed the same intake on my truck and new edlebrock carb . When starting it idles at 1600 rpm and when I step on the gas hard it dies . Do you think I have a vacuum leak at the intake ??

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  3 місяці тому

      It sounds like a vacuum leak

  • @dylanaguilar6545
    @dylanaguilar6545 3 роки тому

    This was like asmr to me

  • @selfmade8238
    @selfmade8238 11 місяців тому

    Hello Pete is it a good idea to put the sealant on the out side of the gaskets because I see you put the sealant on the inside

  • @arcorob
    @arcorob 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Pete - checking your video (you are my go to reference...lol) I am mounting an RPM air gap (new) on a new SBF (Stroker) - I bought STUDS because I thought might be easier.better than the bolts. What is your thoughts? Does it make a difference or just ease of dropping on the manifold? Thanks - Oh and do you recommend some sealer on them as well of not needed on a SBF ?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      Hey Robert.... since the manifold is such a low torque there isn't a huge advantage to studs. The main reason to use studs is to evenly distribute the load instead of twisting a bolt. No sealer needed on Ford head bolts.

    • @arcorob
      @arcorob 4 роки тому +1

      @@PetesGarage Thank you !

    • @pamelarambally123
      @pamelarambally123 4 роки тому

      How to time a td27 pump

  • @tomandersoncpa
    @tomandersoncpa 2 роки тому

    I am installing the same intake on my 1970 Z/28 350. Edelbrock says to not use the cork or rubber seals on the ends but to use a 1/4 bead of RTV. I used the FelPro 90314-2 thicker gaskets but used Permatex Ultra Grey and the included rubber end seals. Any concerns? Thanks.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 роки тому

      It's hard to say, hope it doesn't come apart when it heats up

  • @mikeybear716
    @mikeybear716 3 роки тому +2

    Does the powder coat process warp the intake? I know most of the powders I've used take like 350-400 degrees to work. I didn't know of this high of heat would warp them or not.

  • @jclements007
    @jclements007 4 роки тому

    Pete, I have a sbc 350 block from a 78 Vette I picked up at a junk yard with a few pieces missing. There is a threaded hole on the back of the block, on the top, on the same plane that comes in contact with the intake manifold, set back from the manifold. I have not been able to figure out what mounts here. My guess would be a crank case ventilation device. Older engines used to run a tube out and down tot he ground. Is that what this is? I'm converting the engine to EFI.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      It's most likely an oil port for a pressure gage

  • @davidrowland2354
    @davidrowland2354 2 роки тому

    Do u add rtv to both sides of the gasket

  • @RonSavage01
    @RonSavage01 2 роки тому

    You gave me the part number for the intake....you have one for the gasket set?

  • @bruiser5702
    @bruiser5702 5 років тому +1

    What the others said, throw the end seals in the trash, RTV only never any shifting or leaks. And no need to place RTV on the heads, that's what the gasket is for!

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      I always do. I put them in to show what can happen.

    • @bruiser5702
      @bruiser5702 5 років тому +1

      @@PetesGarageAhhh, understood. Thanks for the clarification, really enjoy your vids

  • @criscoxcris_190_malnur6
    @criscoxcris_190_malnur6 Рік тому

    My heads look like yours with no exhaust port in the middle, and water ports on both ends. But the Edelbrock Performer 2701 does not have the water port openings in the rear. Do we just ignore that rear port opening on the heads or is there a different model Edlebrock Performer for that?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Рік тому

      You need the manifold that matches the heads

  • @TheJhaley12
    @TheJhaley12 5 років тому

    Can you tell me what size the temperature sensor input is on this manifold? Thanks.

  • @jagore65
    @jagore65 4 роки тому

    Im building an AMC 360. It has a sheet metal valley pan under the intake. I’m planning on using an Edelbrock performer intake instead of the stock one. Do I have to use the valley pan or no?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      If the intake gasket is part of the valley pan I'd use it

  • @BoxcarsGarage
    @BoxcarsGarage 4 роки тому

    Pete, thanks for the vid. A question/opinion request for ya. I'm acuminating parts for a 350 motor re-build. I've got the same manifold, new in the box for $100 and a new Edelbrock 1411 750cfm for cheap... $175. While I have many details to figure out... would you consider the carb as excessive for a mild performance build... I sure want to use this new carb. Thanks for the powdercoat comment... I was not thinking about that... added to the 'to-do list' column Other details: 1968 350 block/4 bolt (taking it the machine shop this Friday) need it done up right...any unique details to pass? brass plugs vs steel? or ? I also got to check if the new ceramic hugger headers I bought for my 96 LT1 can fit...this old 350 block...they were spendy so I'd like to use them.Just getting my ducks in a row and will research soon...just thought I'd ask the question.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      That's a big carb for a mild build. Brass plugs are fine.

  • @BrettHail-ly7om
    @BrettHail-ly7om 3 місяці тому

    Great video! Did you simply lightly powder coat the manifold without the baking process? I'm looking into having my manifold powder coated, but they want $300. I'm looking into buying a powder coat sprayer.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 місяці тому

      All powder coating needs to be baked

  • @kaffetrakter4174
    @kaffetrakter4174 6 років тому

    Can you rebuild a bmw straight 6 engine? Like the s38b38, it is a very rare and powerful engine used in some of the bmw e34 m5's.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  6 років тому +1

      Send me one and I'll do it

  • @Supanova70
    @Supanova70 Рік тому

    well the felpro 1266 did not work i have deeper issues.. Great Vid. I have a fresh 355 with Dart heads that were from a circle track car. Heads were milled and i can see light on #8 intake through my victor Jr intake. My machine shop said to use washers on all 4 corners that equal gasket I'd. Then mold BB` model clay on all runners top and bottom. Slice in half and measure depth. Going to try tomorrow. Also china wall close but not hitting yet. Anything else i can try? Thanks. John

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Рік тому +1

      That's a tough one. I'd have to see it

    • @Supanova70
      @Supanova70 Рік тому

      @@PetesGarage took .060 off china rail all fixed....

  • @stihltheman
    @stihltheman 3 роки тому +1

    Never used RTV on anything that fuel comes in contact with... Usually the fuel eats the RTV! Rubber gaskets rarely work, cork better, but RTV is standard practice with most engine builders.

  • @dirtbikeboy8169
    @dirtbikeboy8169 5 років тому

    Will a 1405 carb bolt right to the intake or do i need adaptor or spacer?

  • @johnytorres8770
    @johnytorres8770 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Pete how did those heads perform.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому +1

      They're pretty good. Definitely a great upgrade

  • @MiguelHernandez-qz3fy
    @MiguelHernandez-qz3fy 4 роки тому +1

    How about Pete's Garage What is the color of the block? I see that it comes a little stronger than the original Chevrolet Orange

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому +1

      Chevy orange right out of the can

  • @solmora6495
    @solmora6495 9 місяців тому

    I hear from many chevy engine buiders that is better to put a bed of sealer instead of the ruber gaskets because they tend to leak

  • @Supanova70
    @Supanova70 Рік тому

    Can you explain why my Edelbrock performer intake does not line up with iron eagle heads? Using 1206 gaskets

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Рік тому +1

      Not without knowing more information

    • @Supanova70
      @Supanova70 Рік тому

      @@PetesGarage 1266 worked

  • @mrblanche
    @mrblanche Рік тому

    What are all the threaded holes in the crossover at the front of the manifold for?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Рік тому

      Accessory brackets and coolant temp sensors

  • @Wahayawolf73
    @Wahayawolf73 Рік тому

    I thought it was bad to run sealant around the intake runners, just wondering

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  Рік тому +1

      You do not need to, but I've never had a problem

  • @Limeayy
    @Limeayy 6 років тому +1

    Is this for all engines, Straight 4's put some right stuff around the intake ports?

    • @kaffetrakter4174
      @kaffetrakter4174 6 років тому

      Lime you can use whatever you want, as long as it seals :)

    • @Limeayy
      @Limeayy 6 років тому

      Kinda lost, you use RTV on intakes?

    • @kaffetrakter4174
      @kaffetrakter4174 6 років тому

      I use the gasket that is suppose to go there. The point is, to not let air enter. Rtv will work fine.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  6 років тому

      Yes

  • @danmoore3457
    @danmoore3457 4 роки тому +1

    Hi is there a water tube for the 2176 manifold?

  • @ricksmith1527
    @ricksmith1527 2 роки тому

    See you have those stainless big shaft rockers arms on yours! Mine made by Elign, I just built a nice show motor with a 355 scat kit and 495 flat tappers cam, 15 mins. Into break-in I heard a tappet noise and shut it down, I have #2 & #6 loose and #2 is way loose in the pivot shaft, like its eating needle bearings already, I have metallic in my new motor around head bolts! Those rockers are supposed to be super strong and handle 700 lbs. Of seat pressure. Mine didnt make it 15 mins and only have a 495 lift cam. Getting ready to tear it back down. I'm sure These people making inferior parts will not pay for anything! Hope you have better luck with yours than I did! Wish someone could get my motor running right without all the problems! Rick.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 роки тому

      I could be something else. If you have the rails upside down or the wrong bolts in the head oil holes it will not get enough lube

    • @ricksmith1527
      @ricksmith1527 2 роки тому

      @@PetesGarage built by a shop in town that does all the street to race motors, he came out and couldnt fiquer the rocker arms either, took them off and didnt seems as bad, but definitely slop in 2, watching lifters they were going lower on 2 of them do its took the cam, will have to start all over now, definitely not going back with any flat tappet cams! He suggested going solid roller, will have to get new heads springs,push rods,and rockers. Added expense I didnt need! Dont see why it's so hard to break in these flat tappet cams, had the valvoline zinc oil in it, everything was right about motor, all arp bolts, studs, and guide plates, and stud girdle, NKB alum. Heads, good push rods, rockers seems to be perfect on the studs! Havent seen any others besides Elgin brand, know comp cams make some, dont trust the Elgin's now. Or why cams are like this, they say detergent in oil even the zinc oil is breaking down, guys are taking springs out and using weak springs to break in, then re installing good springs! If this is the case everyone should avoid flat tappet and go with rollers from the get go! I'd give a 1000 right now not to have this problem, builder says November before he can get to it! Any suggestions on roller cam specs for a strong street motor without going crazy? somewhere around 500 lift. Do rollers cams sound more aggressive on same lift since there sharper and make more power? My 495 Lanati was barely talking but responsive. Heads will handle up to 535 lift. Not racing it, just a real good street motor. Thanks, Rick.

    • @ricksmith1527
      @ricksmith1527 2 роки тому

      @@PetesGarage what you mean on rails? Trunion shats?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 роки тому

      You do have to take springs out to break in a flat tappet. Going to roller hydraulic will help, then the zinc is not as important. Maybe .500 up to .535 would sound nice

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 роки тому

      Rocker rails

  • @Wahayawolf73
    @Wahayawolf73 Рік тому

    What brand of intake Gaskets are they

  • @KnuckleHeadGarage27
    @KnuckleHeadGarage27 2 роки тому +1

    Okay question an hopefully i hear from you soon lol cause I have mine all apart. but did the intake work an not leak or anything cause my 1978 chevy C10 350 has the same curve in the block an the factory intake manifold for the China wall . and I'm worried that the new intake like you have won't seal in the front good cause the new intake doesn't have that sharp curve to it. So thought I would ask you ??

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 роки тому +1

      As long as you put a bead of sealer on top of the wall and smear a thin layer on the bottom of the manifold, it will seal.

    • @KnuckleHeadGarage27
      @KnuckleHeadGarage27 2 роки тому +2

      @@PetesGarage okay thanks

  • @melvintuckerjr2450
    @melvintuckerjr2450 6 років тому

    Hey Pete does it make a difference if the tough stuff is black or gray when putting the intake manifold on ? Great video !!!

    • @noahrodeghiero9640
      @noahrodeghiero9640 6 років тому

      Melvin Tucker it does black is for oil, different types of rtv have different purposes.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  6 років тому +2

      Different colors do mean different things. At the factory all oil pans, front covers, and bed plates are put on with a gray RTV, Black is the color I use. Just make sure it is for engine building applications. I've used black, gray, orange, clear, and white RTV.

    • @melvintuckerjr2450
      @melvintuckerjr2450 6 років тому +1

      Thanks Pete

  • @av8tore71
    @av8tore71 5 років тому

    Since you used an extension when you torqued the intake did you use a conversion??

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому +1

      No, an extension does not change the moment arm

    • @av8tore71
      @av8tore71 5 років тому

      @@PetesGarage OK, just wondering, I have to convert all the time when I'm working on a Turbine Hot Section when I'm using a Crows Foot. Thanks! I'm very interested into learning how to build car engines since I do aircraft engines all the time.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      I'd love to build an aircraft engine, maybe we can help each other

  • @koisantana9371
    @koisantana9371 2 роки тому

    I don’t recommend china wall gaskets rather just the bead

  • @stephantrevino1201
    @stephantrevino1201 5 років тому +1

    Can you sand blast a aluminum intake top bottom and sides ?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      Yes, but clean it thoroughly, then clean it again.

    • @normhodgkinson6965
      @normhodgkinson6965 4 роки тому

      Stephan, don't blast the plenum, the runners, or the underside. sand particles can embed in the aluminum, and later can drop off into the lifter valley and get into the oil. same with the plenum, sand can wash into the cylinders and scar the cylinder walls. wash your manifold real good, then paint it with some cast-coat aluminum engine paint, preferably Dupli-Color from your local parts store. your manifold will look like it just came out of the box brand new.

  • @mechanic383
    @mechanic383 3 роки тому

    Is that rtv or right stuff also isnt it a bad idea to use on the ports?

  • @brentonk461
    @brentonk461 5 років тому +1

    Do yourself a favour, chuck those end seals in the Bin that go across the valley China wall underneath each end of the intake manifold. Use only a bead of sealant across there.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому +2

      I do, I did that on purpose to show what can happen if you use the end gaskets.

  • @DiscoGreen
    @DiscoGreen 4 роки тому

    I did exactly this with a sbc 406 and everything went perfect. But now my dizzy doesnt drop. I rotated motor and it drops when shaft falls in but the outer edge of dizzy is not centered with intake hole! Arg. Flotek 220 heads 23 degree. Idk what's up. Should I drop dizzy before torque?

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому

      I'd figure out why it's not aligning before torquing it down. Has to be something simple

    • @DiscoGreen
      @DiscoGreen 4 роки тому

      @@PetesGarage it turned out to be a badly core shifted brand new air gap!

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  4 роки тому +1

      @@DiscoGreen Wow,, good find!

  • @boujie-tr6pf
    @boujie-tr6pf 3 роки тому

    What kind of socket and swivel did you use???

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  3 роки тому

      Just regular tools, nothing special

  • @etd5797
    @etd5797 3 роки тому

    I've seen a few videos that claim ditching the ends gaskets for rtv is better ?? What are your thoughts on that ??? Thank you great vid !

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  3 роки тому +1

      I made the video to show what happens if you do use the end gaskets, which is why I never use them

    • @etd5797
      @etd5797 3 роки тому +2

      @@PetesGarage thank you so much brotha 🙏

  • @toptierpropertyservices8248
    @toptierpropertyservices8248 5 років тому +4

    It says no end gaskets only 1/4 inch rtv only

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому +2

      I did it to show what can go wrong

  • @reevesautomotivefarm9614
    @reevesautomotivefarm9614 2 роки тому +1

    how long did it take that gasket to leak? gas dissolves RTV. never put it around the intake ports.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  2 роки тому +1

      It happened immediately. I put it in to show what happens

    • @reevesautomotivefarm9614
      @reevesautomotivefarm9614 2 роки тому

      @@PetesGarage that's actually really good idea. I made that mistake years ago with a carburetor gasket

    • @reevesautomotivefarm9614
      @reevesautomotivefarm9614 2 роки тому

      @@PetesGarage I also used a really cheap no name not felpro intake gasket one time. The gasket failed within a month and was sucking oil out of the valley to the point it was running out the exhaust pipe.

  • @cordelmar
    @cordelmar 5 років тому

    I have a few questions. Can i use the aluminum manifold on a boat engine??, i heard that the boat with one forward gear produces more pressure? can the aluminum take that pressure? thank you.

    • @PetesGarage
      @PetesGarage  5 років тому

      Sure, I put them on boat motors. I've never heard of a pressure issue.

    • @cordelmar
      @cordelmar 5 років тому

      O k that's good so i will try the Edelbrock manifold, thanks for the info.

  • @joer5000
    @joer5000 4 роки тому

    Pete do you sell these powder coated intake manifolds?