Pete, great video. I’m a former Honda mechanic. Not familiar with V8’s. Bought a78 Camaro Z28 and rebuilding a junk yard 350 to put in it. Thanks for giving me the confidence to rebuild it.
Man great looking motor, I just reserfaced a new set of edlbrock heads and rehoned all the exhaust valve guides. From factory they require this before install. They are amazing heads after you fix them. They are just slapped together factory corporate push style with no love. The love comes from the machine shop get to know your local shop.
Great videos I'm a novice to the hobby. I have a wiped cam lob on my 350 Now I know why my magnetic oil drain plug had a lot of gunk on it. I bought the edelbrock top end kit. Thanks to your videos I will attempt to install myself. Shop charges arm and leg to do it.
Pete, guess what, I have gotten the tap removed from my sbc, yeah! Now I can continue the rebuild! A valuable lesson, keep quests out, while you are working on the project! Thanks again for all of your help! Your knowledge has been a great help 👍 Norm
Hey Pete I see you live in Buffalo me too I live in Cheektowaga small world I enjoy your channel I enjoy your technical advice it’s actually helped me quite a bit on this engine bill this is the first high-performance engine I’ve assembled probably in 25 years and as much as I know about someone engines I forgotten more than I know
Pete, great video, and seamless, sometimes these videos can drag on and drag on and I am glad you don't do that! Gees, I am not even rebuilding a 350, and I watched because it peeked my curiosity.
Now if u now that the moter u are putting together is going to see very high heat for a long period of time what type of head gasket would u put in some thing like for a high boost or what
How did the pushrod line up. Reading lots of horror stories about after market heads and they talk alot about casting needing alot of work to get the pushrod to line up. Was wondering how the edelbrock were
E-street heads are torqued to 65 foot pounds. And never stop the wrench on the final pull. Steady pull until final torque or you loose your accuracy of a consistent method
Are these heads a decent upgrade for a 90’ suburban? They are affordable and I’d like to go aluminum or is it just worth getting a set of newer vortec heads and have them built?
Pete... I'm almost an engine builder thanks to you. question... im installing heads on an lt1 95' using gm 10105117 .028 gasket. I notice that the upper part of the gasket has one large triangular shape passage instead of a squarish divided passage... This triangle shape covers the large water passage AND the smaller square opening that goes into the rocker arm bay.... many ppl use these gaskets but that large opening is worrisome the original has a divided partition between the large passage and the open space. Whats up with that????
wouldn't it be a good idea to install the heads together alternating heads while working the torque steps. Reasoning being the torque from the bolts slightly warps the block.?
I installed a new set of Edelbrock Performer heads on my rebuilt 350 and it makes LESS power than the old cast iron heads , it has roller rockers. The compression with the old heads was 145 psi in each cylinder and then 165 psi with the Edelbrocks . Runs smooth idles good just LESS power . I am running an Edelbrock 600 CFM carb unchanged . I do need to get the correct push rod length could this be the problem ?. Could you give me some advice ? Thank you !
thanks so much pete!. I' ve got got a question?..do you recommend to put "head gasket shellac"on the head gasket cylinder before being installed? whats your opinion? is it necesary or not?
@@PetesGarage hello Pete i haven't seing your answer. Thanks so much for answering, for your advice, understood i'll wont put gasket Shellac before installing the head cilinder gasket. Have a great day, Regards 👍
Hey Pete, I have the same heads, please share what head gaskets did you install? I'm being told different things, I trust an home town guy like you. Thanks Sam T.
Thanks Pete, do remember the number? 1003 1010 ? Steel or copper fire ring? I know I have a lot of questions, it's been a long time since I've built a engine 35 years...lol Thanks again Sam T.
Hi Pete Thame fur the video. Last night i installed Edelbrock Performer RPM heads on my 327. The instruction sheet said 3 step increments but the final was 65 not 70. The ARP had bolts didn't have a separate torque value. Do you think bumping it up to 70 would be a good idea?
Edelbrock E-Street heads say toque to 65 foot lbs. would it matter? I just built my 1986 Corvette engine with the e-street heads and I’m almost at the 500 break in mile mark and the #8 intake valve spring broke into 4 sections, and I noticed that the valve seal was not all the way down on the guide so I looked at the rest of the seals and half of them are not seated . Question. What would cause my spring to explode into 4 sections and the inner spring to break into 3 sections. Need help cause I have to be at the Turkey rod run in Daytona in two weeks and I’m driving it down there from Jacksonville Florida.
You don't need that gasket goop for the head gasket? I was surprised at that but it's been a while since I've worked on an engine. I think it was called gasket shellac, It looked like molasses and I hated it because it was so messy. Great video series, thank you. INDIAN HEAD gasket shellac! It just came to me :P
@@mcswain69 I really don't know because I take thins apart and hopefully put in back the same way :P I ask for help or read the instructions only when I ran into trouble I wish we had the internet back then (60s through the 69).
ironhorse127 No, because the threads are covered with sealant for the coolant. Silicone sealer is a lubricant so adding the Ultra-torque would do nothing.
Certainly would not use any type of gasket maker or silicone on the threads! use a proper thread sealer with Teflon in it like Permatex 56521. As you say follow the manufacturers recommendations, It clearly says on that ARP sheet you're holding to use assembly lube under the washer and bolt heads!
Need some advice I haven't been having much luck with head gaskets for my 6g72/12valve and can't find mls for it in Australia or cometic had the block and heads surfaces machined different heads different blocks and still energy up with a combustion leak into radiator. HELPS PLEASE
It does not. As long as you do not change the length or center line of the socket you will not. If the torque was very high it may be a risk, but it takes a lot to twist an extension.
seeing that much RTV inside the engine on those bolts really worries me. there will be excess that will break off down the road and float around in the coolant passages, no?
@@jeffallen3382 Loctite 592 PST, locks and seals threaded fittings. Resists leakage, vibration loosening, moisture, hydraulic fluids, and diesel fuels. Lubricates threads for easy assembly and disassembly. Won't shred or wear like Teflon® tape. Parts may be repositioned up to 24 hours after application. Works to 400°F. Suggested Applications: Head bolts into through holes, oil psi sending units and sensors, oil and coolant lines, fuel fittings, rear axle fill plug, brake and power steering fittings. How do you re-torque head bolts that have been gooped up with RTV? The RTV sets up, you re-torque--and break the seal. Conversely, Loctite 592 is advertised that you can re-position the fittings for 24 hours after application. Exactly what's needed for re-torquing bolts.
@@PetesGarage how much power gain would this give a stock 350 with mild camshaft?( int. 262ext 269 lobe lift114 Dur. 050 218 intake and exhaust valve lift.462 .455)
Another great video I noticed when you torque the heads down you had a extension on the wrench I was told that will give a false reading do you know of that is true
Not a big fan of Edelbrock heads. Never use them out of the box. Valve guides can be out of round among other as built issues. Spend the extra money for a set of AFR or Brodix, ya I know hard to justify for street use. Don't shoot the messenger.
I know this is a old video , but anyone who takes new aluminum heads out of the box and bolts them right in with out having them checked over , vacuum tested, and so on is asking for problems.
Pete, great video. I’m a former Honda mechanic. Not familiar with V8’s. Bought a78 Camaro Z28 and rebuilding a junk yard 350 to put in it. Thanks for giving me the confidence to rebuild it.
You can do it!
Man that was cool !
Putting some sealant the bolts taught me a very important step to putting my head on. Great video !!!
Love your videos. Just a car enthusiast and enjoy the steps of assembling an engine.
Thanks my friend
Man great looking motor, I just reserfaced a new set of edlbrock heads and rehoned all the exhaust valve guides. From factory they require this before install. They are amazing heads after you fix them. They are just slapped together factory corporate push style with no love.
The love comes from the machine shop get to know your local shop.
You're right
Great videos I'm a novice to the hobby. I have a wiped cam lob on my 350 Now I know why my magnetic oil drain plug had a lot of gunk on it. I bought the edelbrock top end kit. Thanks to your videos I will attempt to install myself. Shop charges arm and leg to do it.
Awesome, good luck
Pete, guess what, I have gotten the tap removed from my sbc, yeah! Now I can continue the rebuild! A valuable lesson, keep quests out, while you are working on the project! Thanks again for all of your help! Your knowledge has been a great help 👍 Norm
That's awesome, it takes patience but you can get them help. Glad it worked for you
Very informative. That's where im at on my rebuild to my 88 chevy 🚚 454 block😜
I worked in the GM factory on the 454 line
Hey Pete I see you live in Buffalo me too I live in Cheektowaga small world I enjoy your channel I enjoy your technical advice it’s actually helped me quite a bit on this engine bill this is the first high-performance engine I’ve assembled probably in 25 years and as much as I know about someone engines I forgotten more than I know
Cool...maybe we will run into each other at a cruise night or something
Torque wrenches are so satisfying.
mmd11 I agree
Pete, great video, and seamless, sometimes these videos can drag on and drag on and I am glad you don't do that! Gees, I am not even rebuilding a 350, and I watched because it peeked my curiosity.
Thanks Pat, I try to make it to the point
Love the detail instructions
w garcia As much as necessary
Arp makes a good thread sealant for the bolts, but any Teflon sealer will work. I just using the Arp stuff cause hey why not lol
I always use the ARP stuff that comes with the bolts. You are right, any sealer with PTFE is good.
Love these heads
Me too
Thanks Pete
Thanks my friend.
Awesome.
Good idea to always tap and preclean head bolt holes prior to the head insulation machine shop usually don't do that for you.
Yes, my machine shop does that
When you drove that head bolt in with the impact after you set it on the block i jumped out of my seat
Just a quick way to get it to hold the head. I did not apply any torque
He got tired
Devin Greer been doing that professionally for 30 years. This ain’t the space shuttle folks...
Can i use a set of new gm stock rockers on these? I got the top end kit just dont know what rockers to put.
Sure you can
@@PetesGaragethanks!
when useing extention with a torque wrench do you adjust the lbs of torque do to the extention from the bolt head to the head of the wrench
Should adjust 2flbs.per inch of extension.
at 1:45 what is the extra hole for ? that sits between the ports. my aluminum heads have the same hole 1 on each head
Depending on the car you're putting it in, it could be for a water temp sensor. You can plug it if you're not using it
Now if u now that the moter u are putting together is going to see very high heat for a long period of time what type of head gasket would u put in some thing like for a high boost or what
Quick question should you change the Torque wrench due to you having an Extension? I’ve always been told not to use a Socket extension ?
How did the pushrod line up. Reading lots of horror stories about after market heads and they talk alot about casting needing alot of work to get the pushrod to line up. Was wondering how the edelbrock were
I had no problems with them
your not stopping at the click
I'm pretty sure I do, I'll look
E-street heads are torqued to 65 foot pounds. And never stop the wrench on the final pull. Steady pull until final torque or you loose your accuracy of a consistent method
Thank you
Are these heads a decent upgrade for a 90’ suburban? They are affordable and I’d like to go aluminum or is it just worth getting a set of newer vortec heads and have them built?
Sure they are
i having trouble choosing head gaskets people say no steel ring ....mls is good or nah..hmmm i have e street heads on sbc
Fel Pro with a steel ring work just fine
How do you build a 350 for nitrous anything special you have to do ?
Make sure all of the components can handle the horsepower you're trying to achieve
Any inference with the #1 head bolt?
I have the E-210 heads, and the valve springs overlap the surface for the head bolt washer. Any advise?
You'll have to tighten that bolt until it goes past the spring
Pete... I'm almost an engine builder thanks to you.
question... im installing heads on an lt1 95' using gm 10105117 .028 gasket. I notice that the upper part of the gasket has one large triangular shape passage instead of a squarish divided passage... This triangle shape covers the large water passage AND the smaller square opening that goes into the rocker arm bay.... many ppl use these gaskets but that large opening is worrisome the original has a divided partition between the large passage and the open space. Whats up with that????
As long as the gasket does not cover and existing hole or leave a huge open space somewhere it will be fine
wouldn't it be a good idea to install the heads together alternating heads while working the torque steps. Reasoning being the torque from the bolts slightly warps the block.?
Well...that is a potential issue. However, the block has a torque plate on it when it's bored and honed to make up for that.
I installed a new set of Edelbrock Performer heads on my rebuilt 350 and it makes LESS power than the old cast iron heads , it has roller rockers. The compression with the old heads was 145 psi in each cylinder and then 165 psi with the Edelbrocks . Runs smooth idles good just LESS power . I am running an Edelbrock 600 CFM carb unchanged . I do need to get the correct push rod length could this be the problem ?. Could you give me some advice ?
Thank you !
The wrong length push rods could definitely cause that problem.
How well did the intake and gaskets match up to the new heads? Could there be some flow restrictions
Cool!
thanks so much pete!. I' ve got got a question?..do you recommend to put "head gasket shellac"on the head gasket cylinder before being installed? whats your opinion? is it necesary or not?
I do not, follow the recommendations of the head gasket manufacturer
@@PetesGarage hello Pete i haven't seing your answer. Thanks so much for answering, for your advice, understood i'll wont put gasket Shellac before installing the head cilinder gasket. Have a great day, Regards 👍
Hey Pete, I have the same heads, please share what head gaskets did you install? I'm being told different things, I trust an home town guy like you.
Thanks
Sam T.
I used FelPro. They work just fine
Thanks Pete, do remember the number? 1003 1010 ? Steel or copper fire ring? I know I have a lot of questions, it's been a long time since I've built a engine 35 years...lol
Thanks again
Sam T.
I don't recall the number, but it's the steel fire ring
Thanks Pete, very much appreciate the great videos you share.
Thanks again
Sam T.
Hi Pete Thame fur the video. Last night i installed Edelbrock Performer RPM heads on my 327. The instruction sheet said 3 step increments but the final was 65 not 70. The ARP had bolts didn't have a separate torque value. Do you think bumping it up to 70 would be a good idea?
Yes
Edelbrock E-Street heads say toque to 65 foot lbs. would it matter? I just built my 1986 Corvette engine with the e-street heads and I’m almost at the 500 break in mile mark and the #8 intake valve spring broke into 4 sections, and I noticed that the valve seal was not all the way down on the guide so I looked at the rest of the seals and half of them are not seated . Question. What would cause my spring to explode into 4 sections and the inner spring to break into 3 sections. Need help cause I have to be at the Turkey rod run in Daytona in two weeks and I’m driving it down there from Jacksonville Florida.
The valve seal had nothing to do with it, unless they were positive lock seals. A spring will break if it's crooked, or not right for the cam.
Do you think the thread sealer stayed on the bolts spinning them in so fast with the electric hand tool ?
Yes
You don't need that gasket goop for the head gasket? I was surprised at that but it's been a while since I've worked on an engine. I think it was called gasket shellac, It looked like molasses and I hated it because it was so messy. Great video series, thank you.
INDIAN HEAD gasket shellac! It just came to me :P
I never use anything on head gaskets unless the manufacturer recommends it
That’s only for the old sheet metal head gaskets, right?
@@PetesGarage Thanks, and I'm sorry about "that nut", It was supposed to be "that but ,"
@@mcswain69 I really don't know because I take thins apart and hopefully put in back the same way :P I ask for help or read the instructions only when I ran into trouble I wish we had the internet back then (60s through the 69).
Great video, I was curious if that head gasket you used was an Edelbrock gasket or were you able to use a different one?
I used Fel Pro
@@PetesGarage good deal thank you.
are the Eddy E Street Ford,Mopar ,or GM heads CARB certified??
E street
When you unbox aftermarket heads, ALWAYS lay a straightedge across the valve tips. If they vary more than a few thousandths, SEND THEM BACK!!!
Thanks for the tip!
A question Pete. Did you use ARP Ultra Torque assy lube on these bolts? The video doesnt show it, nor is the lube mentioned. Thanks
ironhorse127 I noticed that too. Especially under the bolt head this is important because the friction there will eat a lot of your torque.
ironhorse127 No, because the threads are covered with sealant for the coolant. Silicone sealer is a lubricant so adding the Ultra-torque would do nothing.
80% of torque is overcoming friction
Pete's Garage Thanks Pete. Was the sealant used on all the bolts, even those that dont come in contact with the coolant?
Certainly would not use any type of gasket maker or silicone on the threads! use a proper thread sealer with Teflon in it like Permatex 56521. As you say follow the manufacturers recommendations, It clearly says on that ARP sheet you're holding to use assembly lube under the washer and bolt heads!
Thanks for the comment
You didn't torque the heads down per the chevy manual. Wrong sequence. Tighten up Pete.
These are aluminum heads. I followed what the manufacturer provided.
Pete is nothing more than a bullshit artist..... another UA-cam actor.
What are your thoughts and opionions on the E Street Heads?
They work fine, I've had no problems with them
@@PetesGarage , Thank You
Did that help gain hp? Im building a 350 also
It all added HP....probably 125 more than stock.
How did those heads performed? I am planning to buy a set but I see so many bad stories on you tube about pre assembled heads. Great video.
They are well worth the money
@@PetesGarage thank you for the quick reply, I will be buying them in a few weeks.
Need some advice I haven't been having much luck with head gaskets for my 6g72/12valve and can't find mls for it in Australia or cometic had the block and heads surfaces machined different heads different blocks and still energy up with a combustion leak into radiator. HELPS PLEASE
Chris parkinson please email me at petesgarageinfo@gmail.com
Pete's Garage OK thank you
find a chev
What fel pro head gasket # did you use for this job?
260-1000
Pete's Garage thank you what about for the head bolts?? . Great video by the way I’ll be assembling mine later next week
Where do you get a dipstick shield?
My machine shop
Summit sell them
do you know how much horsepower these can handle on a ford 331 stroker?
It depends how it's built
how much hp does this engine have
I think it was around 360
what about using that extension doesnt it throw your torque off
It does not. As long as you do not change the length or center line of the socket you will not. If the torque was very high it may be a risk, but it takes a lot to twist an extension.
That's a different type of extension
the head does not interfere with the dipstick guide
That is true
I want alu heads for my Buick 350...
just get chevy buick is junk
seeing that much RTV inside the engine on those bolts really worries me. there will be excess that will break off down the road and float around in the coolant passages, no?
I've never had a problem
You have to but it on the bolts that go through coolant passages. Believe me I have tried little to no RTV and they have leaked,
@@jeffallen3382 Loctite 592 PST, locks and seals threaded fittings.
Resists leakage, vibration loosening, moisture, hydraulic fluids, and diesel fuels. Lubricates threads for easy assembly and disassembly. Won't shred or wear like Teflon® tape.
Parts may be repositioned up to 24 hours after application.
Works to 400°F. Suggested Applications: Head bolts into through holes, oil psi sending units and sensors, oil and coolant lines, fuel fittings, rear axle fill plug, brake and power steering fittings. How do you re-torque head bolts that have been gooped up with RTV? The RTV sets up, you re-torque--and break the seal. Conversely, Loctite 592 is advertised that you can re-position the fittings for 24 hours after application. Exactly what's needed for re-torquing bolts.
Wife's 327 had 307 heads , we bought a set of Edelbrock rpm heads . For the money I don't think it's worth spending a fortune fixing junk heads .
I agree
What head gaskets u using do have part number
These were Fel Pro I believe
260-1001
What cc e street heads are you useing ??
These are the 70cc 5073 heads
@@PetesGarage how much power gain would this give a stock 350 with mild camshaft?( int. 262ext 269 lobe lift114 Dur. 050 218 intake and exhaust valve lift.462 .455)
Another great video I noticed when you torque the heads down you had a extension on the wrench I was told that will give a false reading do you know of that is true
That can be true. It will not twist if the extension has a higher yield strength than the torque applied to it.
Not a big fan of Edelbrock heads. Never use them out of the box. Valve guides can be out of round among other as built issues. Spend the extra money for a set of AFR or Brodix, ya I know hard to justify for street use. Don't shoot the messenger.
We'll see ho these perform
71Vegaman Lol, guess you haven't heard of AFR's valve run-out issues?
Don't matter who makes the head, you should always check someone else's work. Like mom always said, you want something done right do it yourself. Js.
there just as bad
I know this is a old video , but anyone who takes new aluminum heads out of the box and bolts them right in with out having them checked over , vacuum tested, and so on is asking for problems.
That can be true
I have the same heads for mine
They work well
@@PetesGarage I bought a Howard retrofit roller camshaft
@@PetesGarage I bought this cam from summit racing HRS-CL113215-10 and this valve spring kit HRS-98213-K12
Sounds good
@@PetesGarage I have any question what length chromemoly push rods are you using with your roller hydraulic lifters
V8 rulz
I agree
Thanks Pete
Very welcome
Are these heads good for a 355 Chevy with a 465 lift cam?
Sure