Classic Gaming on a Sony BVM D24E1WU
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2015
- My review on the Sony BVM D24E1WU...
This is a thousand line monitor that I have had for a few months and just got around to reviewing it. I hope you guys forgive me if there is anything I say thats wrong. All my research was done online and there are a lot of different opinions and theories about TVlines. I try my best to break it down into simplistic form if it can. I also talk about the following...
1. Having a 1000 line Rgb monitor
2. Are there benefits with widescreen displays
3. Discussing TVlines ( Analog Resolution VS Digital)
4. NEC XM29 Plus VS the Sony BVM A24E1WU
5. PS2 Component vs RGB on PS2
6. PS1 vs Ps2 for Ps1 Games
7. Comparing Tim Worthington's RGB chip on a Jungle Green N64
VS a normal black N64 with original Rgb mod and clean sync
8. IS this the sharpest RGB monitor out there?
I would also like to say Happy Birthday to my son Seth!! I love you and cannot wait to see!!!!! - Розваги
You know you’re a true retro gamer when you come back to this video every so often
yes thats me im a pos
[Coury] Dammit, just when I was feeling content with my PVM 20L5! Fantastic job on this!
Thank you Coury!!!
***** Nice channel by the way!!!
So vast improvement over 20l5?
He beat you to it. It is okay I am subbed to both of you.
How that makes anything better I have no idea =/
No wonder Phonedork is so bulky, he's picking up every BMV and PVM he can find :p
I get emotional every time I watch your videos because this screen looks so good.
Apparently I misspelled the fucking monitor I reviewed LOL! Its really the....
BVM-D24E1WU
Out of all the things I could get wrong.... Damn it!
phonedork Well now I know I've got the jesus monitor for sure.
Is there a significant difference between the A and the D? I'm looking to pick up one of the two.
Assuming same hours on the tube and calibrated, there is no difference that I am aware of for 240p gaming, and anything else up to 1080i. The tubes are identical. Electronics are different.
The A series is the newest, and if you could find one would give you a a better chance of getting a newer tube. It also supports 1080p and more PC refresh rates. It has the one nice feature of being "rape your grandmother" expensive. That's not saying much as one of my D32's went for $2500.
If you can find a good D series, I would pass on an A series unless you have actually need of 1080p.
It's also almost impossible to get an A series RGB decoder board
phonedork I want your 14 inch BVM? Great setup by the way
Man, this is a wealth of information. Have you ever considered doing a video comparing a lower spec RGB monitor to a higher end CRT TV? It would be interesting to see just how much better a lower end monitor is than even a really CRT TV. Anyways great video.
CampingMIG very good point. I have a older pvm and would love to see the comparisons of a lower end pvm to a higher end consumer grade CRT of the same size.
Definitely the most informative review yet! Nice video as always
Incredible videos as always. Great work man!
Thanks man..! This is far most informative regarding BVM monitor that I ever hoped. I am overwhelmed by such a nice information that you provided (specially comparison shots among different lines). thank you x 1000
Kay Yu Thank you! I was actually very overwhelmed by doing this video! I almost gave up and did not complete it.
A magnum opus television for a magnum opus of a video. Well done. Your editing and information are both top notch and interesting! I own a Sony BVM20F1U and I completely agree - playing a PS1 game over 240P RGB is a beauty to behold.
Digital Elixir The Sony BVM20F1U is a fantastic monitor!!!!! I have its little brother the 14F5U! Sharp as hell too! I was originally looking for a 20F1U and was going to review it instead of the 24 Inch BVM. But they were so damn expensive on Ebay. I ended up going with this one since I got a decent price for it and I never heard too much about them. I see there high as hell on Ebay now :-(
Price flipping is the one thing I hate seeing after I review something! Not sure if my videos help contribute to this behavior. But I am sure they don't help...
Very nice. I really want a widescreen BVM like that. Would ditch most of my other sets if I got a good, big BVM.
Awesome vid man, the montage at the end gave me goose bumps! Scan line bliss!
Vaughan B Its that awesome music! It gives me goose bumps by itself! LOL!
That was a flipping gorgeous montage!
Amazing video! Best one yet, as flawless as your BVM's geometry. Nice rendition of Children too.
Unbelievable work, awsome video! You should have trilions of views!
Yet another fantastic informative video man!
Thankyou for another great video Phonedork. I will certainly be on the lookout for this monitor in the future to purchase
Phenomenal. Hope you make more of these in the future.
I have seen this video for years and it's always as fun to watch as when I first saw it.
This has got to be one of the best PVM/BVM videos on youtube.
Congrats!
R M Thank you very much!
Yet another great video Phonedork! I just wish it was easier to find these monitors in my area.
Good segment on resolution, I learned some stuff I didn't know before!
I just ordered my first BVM. It's a little 1311 but considering I did a bunch of retro gaming on a 14 inch LCD I think I'll be satisfied for now. I've got back and leg issues and am an ex surgery patient so lifting and moving CRTs could be a potential problem for me.
Thanks for uploading these videos man! You have the best CRT videos on UA-cam! Can't wait to be playing my old systems the way they're meant to be played.
Lol i have spine syndrome and scoliosis
That thing is so sharp, it's nuts!
Awesome video for an awesome monitor. Amazing that you got it with so little hours of operation. I managed to get a 20G1E recently and it has almost 70.000 hours on it.
Thanks buddy!!! You should be fine with those hours! I heard the BVMs can last over 200,000 hours and more!
Love these vids man! I use a Sony 27" Wega Trinitron for my light gun games and use a Framemeister Mini for all other retro games.
Nice video chap, very informative.
Love it. Thanks for the video. Trying to keep my eye out for it.
That was one hell of a great presentation and overview.
It's crazy for me watching this when you brought up the sharpness and clarity segment. Years back when I used to do a ton of mame on my pc, I made it a habit of having each game profile at exactly x2 it's original resolution so I could fit the scanlines in and keep the accuracy as close as possible. Now I'm looking at your BVM and it's deja vu because I'm looking at exactly the same unfiltered details I used to have on my crt all those years ago. If there's any multi-sync monitors that go low as 240p, I'd like to pick one up for testing at some point.
***** You should look for a 14 inch BVM or PVM! The 14 inchers are pretty great! Not as pricey and sharp as freaking hell! I love my Sony BVM14F5U! I actually traded my NEC for it lol! I would have not did that if I dod not have the 24 incher though. But they can be found for a decent price sometimes. Since most seem dissuaded by small monitors. I actually love the 14 inchers!
I find myself rewatching these videos a lot lately. I think a lot of it is your unrivalled ability to photograph CRTs, but also your humor is rather entertaining. I'd love to come across one of these holy grail monitors, but until then like you say I'm playing on what makes me happy. I have a pvm14n6u but it doesn't look as good as the one you've shown in your videos, mine needs a re-cap or something. I mostly game on a 32" jvc d-series with a scart to component adapter. One day though....an nec xm29plus will be mine!
Wow! Such an informative and revealing video. What a badass, subed.
Great info and entertaining too.
How do you not have more subs, really great info. I am just getting into this stuff! school killed my gaming life.
Damn, I love your videos. So awesome, I hope you find ways to make more videos like this.
Just wanted to say thanks for making this video. I'm the guy who will not rest until he finds the sharpest fucking display ever, and thanks to this video I found it. I may have over payed for mine, and it does have 12k hours on it, but it's still in great shape and the image is amazing.
Just wanted to say that I had no problems getting my Dreamcast and scan line generator to work with this display. I use the Hanzo VGA adapter, feed that into the Kenzai, then feed that to the monitor via SCART.
Just make sure that you have the Hanzo set to VGA mode and the scan line generator off Also, you'll need to use a power adapter for the Kenzai, because my image doesn't sync when i don't use one (which may be your problem).
Anyways, just wanted to thank you again as I learned a lot from your video and can finally put an end to my search for the greatest retro monitor out there.
+sicbud I am glad I could help buddy!
I just want to add that this monitor will take 480P RGB Sync On Green through scart! No need for component at all nor a VGA conversion with this monitor. To do this just start a game in RGB and then activate 480P. It will then come out of sync because its trying to sync on green. Just turn the external sync off and there you have it! 480P with RGB colors! Way better then component 480P! Only for PS2 since it syncs on green! I did have issues with it when I had two of my "BandBridge" scart splitters daisy chained. It would not successfully sync with green. After bypassing the scart switchers, I was able to. Pretty neat!!!!
***** I would assume they would handle everything very similar. But with the 24 incher being a bit sharper since it is smaller. I want to get one to review but not own. It is ginormous!
+phonedork hey do you happen to know if the Sony bvm-1310 would work with a PlayStation 2 ? (with the right adapters)? thank you!!
+Joshua Magdaleno As long as the RGB has a sync port as well I dont see why not. Although I have never used a BVM1310. Use a Playstation Scart with Sync on Luma
+phonedork By the way you know that there is a de blur kit in development for use with RGB Scart with the N64. Similar to the Ultra HDMI but for analog video
+Helloz World yea that's going to be a plus for CRT users! But I am pretty happy with the Ultra HDMI.
Thanks this explains why I see vertical lines with my 5" Sony pvm!
Thank you for making this video. Your videos are the best on UA-cam for all these comparisons and info. My only problem is now I will not sleep until I find myself a Sony BVM A24E1WU to upgrade my current PVM 20L5. Great work.
Excellent video! Amazing monitor.
Would love to see some more footage of ps2/GC/Xbox games running at 480p with a mixture of 4:3 and 16:9 native aspect ratios if possible?
I bet this monitor makes images for those systems look phenomenal! :p
Jason Davidson The only problem is I sold my gamecube component cable :-(
Maybe I can one day borrow one to just test it out. Thats if anybody would not mind parting with it for at least a week for me to test it well.
phonedork I got a Wii for $10 on craigslist and got an inexpensive component cable, works well for GameCube, no $300 cable.
I would also love to see some 480p xbox and GC content on your different displays. I'm trying now to find best picture quality possible for my original xbox. 480p looks only decent on my xbr960, though 720p looks great. I believe my pvm 1954q can accept component as well as rgb, so maybe I'll try running xbox component to the pvm1954q to see if I get better results than xbr960.
Always look forward to one of your vids! I only wish we could them more often.
These videos take a lot out of me. Just think of it this way... If I just spit out videos, they would be not as good because I would not have time to thoroughly test and make my points. But thank you!!! I will try
love your vids dude, just got a bvm and a pvm so watching vids to learn but you've made me laugh too.
I agree, you convinced me, it is sharper with 1000 tv-lines, huge suprise haha! Still prefer the look on 600-800 lines though. An amazing TV you have, i'm a tiiiny bit jealous!
Nice stuff, great video keep going sir !
Nulak Thank YOU.... Sir!!!
Dude I'm so jealous of the fact you have an amazing BVM. I would love to have something like that but they are getting harder and harder to find. Even the expansion cards are damn near impossible to find. One day I would like to find one of these. But seeing as they had one in 32", holy hell that has to be heavy, would that be the holy grail of these BVMs?
+Ninja_Commander There even was a 43" one. PVM 4300 ... it's neglectable tho, due to the high weight of 200kg and the moderate resolution of 500TVL.
I have just aquired a BVM 2010P. What can I say, I'm in nerd heaven. Great vid!
Great review as always. What did you use to display the test signals on the monitor? I'm thinking of using an only DVD player & burning a disk for the Sony Trinitron I picked up.
Great video, in fact just one day after I watched it i managed to find near my place a BVM-A24E1WM monitor for a good price. The only think which makes me wonder is missing analog board with rgb bnc connections on the back of monitor. I was trying to find excactly the one mantioned in manual (BKM-68X) but its really hard... and I was thinking if I can use another one, I mean the same size but different model. Are those boards/adapters universal for BVM's ?? I would appriciete Your answer and sorry for my english !
Excellent video, well narrated, great soundtrack especially Ecstasy of Gold (check the metallica version if you can find it) thanks for the upload
Excellent video!
I have a cheap SCART-to-HDMI scaler and a SCART cable for my PS1 and PS2 and haven't had any luck getting it to work. I've gotten scrambled video and some audio, but that's it. Before that, I got a SCART cable for my first-model Genesis and got the same thing: Blank screen. Any fixes?
Hi, Thanks for this very informative video covering wide range of topics!
Can you help me decide if BVM-1454D is a good BVM to have. I have no prior experience with them. I am getting one for around $290.
Fantastic video bro !
well done, great video!
Hey phonedork, any differences with the 14' inch bvm and 14' inch pvm for n64 games? Which one do you prefer and have you tried the n64 yet? I'd love to see comparison between the both rgb and hdmi n64 on all your monitors.
Can you tell me where to get the bnc to scart cable for this? I have one that works with my 1954q but it doesn't work with this. Thanks
Great video. Where did you buy that TV stand? Looks awesome.
Great video as usual. loved the last part. Last time i opened my eyes so wide was when i first bought my BVM-20F1U. How did you capture the footage? (Lens/aperture/ect...). Also can you send me the scanline filter you used in the previous video?
Bader Al-Qordi Its very tricky to capture footage on a CRT because of Moire caused by the scanlines and the aligning of the phosphors. There is no exact correct method because you have to meter each game differently! I use a caprock aliasing / moire filter on my Nikon 85mm 1.8. This helps some, but only if I off focus just a hair to not get moire. Shutter speed needs to always be 1/60th of a second regardless or you will get flickering black bars. I shoot with soft lenses. My Sigma 50-500mm and 85mm 1.8 which is sharp, but at 1.8 its a little softer. Make sure there are no lights on in the room. You can shoot at a angle to also get less moire but at the cost of not seeing the full screen correctly. But if you are just shooting one character in the game, its fine this way. Some systems are brighter then others so that is why we need to meter them individually. Record footage bring to computer and view if its fine. Don't correct it with programs. Get it right on camera! The closer the zoom, also the less moire. Hope that helps!
Did you need to make any adjustments to geometry and convergence when you got this unit or was it already very good?
Very interesting series indeed! I wish someone would do something similar for consumer crt sets as getting my hands on a large pvm is unlikely at this point.
Hi. Thanks. That's so detailed like with My Life in Gaming. Will Sega Saturn light gun work with PVM, BVM, PC CRT Monitor (Flat) and WEGA HDTVs (or Diamondtron HDTV)? By the way, how does BVMs and PVMs compare to flat PC CRT Monitors?
Thank you. God bless. Rev. 21:4
you seem very well versed in the nature of display technology's relation to gaming sweet spots for viewing experiences! with that in mind, I feel you are the best person to propose this question to: which display in your opinion of the Nintendo DS family (DS, DSlite, DSi, DSLL) has the ideal pixel density on display as well as pleasing color gamut? would love to hear your input on this topic as I've found it to be a rather glossed over comparison online.
Hmm, would it be possible to find combination S-Video and Component cables for the PS2, and then mod a RCA/BNC connector out of the S-Video connector to get Luma sync?
hey phonedork what did you do with the new monitor am looking for a pvm or bvm any tips on price
Great video.
Hi , great vid , from which game the soundtrack at 18:04 ?
Very informative
at 15:46 min mark, what is that bottom left monitor, a pvm 20l5? That screen looks so much darker then the rest of them! Love it!
Just scored a BVM-14F5E :) Going to mostly replace my 14M4DE - why? Because 2 9" monitors will fit perfectly on it.
Just "mostly" tho because I occasionally need S-Video for my C64 (there's an extra module for the 14F5E, but that's supposedly hard to get/"rare"/expensive).
D24E1WU is a fucking beast tho - flat tube, highest possible resolution, big enough for a living room setting (aka sitting a few meters away from it). How long did you have to search for it? Those never seem to pop up here.
Dammit im at work, so keen to get home watch this
How would this TV work with Retrovision Components for PS2 with the cable switched to RGB mode?
What are ur thoughts on exact crt vs automatic in CRU if you have experience with that?
what are you using for your color settings? I can never seem to get the colors right!!
Does the component only for DVD rule apply when using SCART on a PS3?
hey phonedork, do you know the JVC DT-V1900CG ? I've come across that monitor and it's capable of doing almost any resolution there is while having over 900tvl according to its manual. I thought that this one might be as good or almost as good as the D24E1WU, can you confirm that?
I’ve done alittle of everything. Crt component, svideo, Scart converters to crt, even ossc to flat panels... and I’ve finally rested at an old Sony 24inch Trinition with everything hooked up via a s-video switcher. It’s the sweet spot between size, color, sharpness and convenience.
What's the best to connect PS4 to BVM D24E1WU? Mine is not european version, only has HD-SDI + Digital Analog module. I can get HDMI to SDI converter but I am not sure if it produces the best results. Please advice. Thanks
now that is a nice monitor, Just cant afford one atm(or ever lol) Subbed btw...interesting subject, thanks for the upload.
my new personal hero. a bunch of amazing machines.
What are some good CRTs for consoles up to PS2 and GameCube?
love the outro part
Do you know what the difference might be between the BVM-D24E1WU and the BVM-A24E1WU besides the one letter being different in the model number?
What’s the song that plays right after the SM64 Slide music? It rules
my PS1 is plugged into an led tv :( the tv does have a component input, and i've seen an s-video-to-component adapter on ebay. if i send an s-video cable from the ps1 into the adapter, then into the component input of the tv, do you know if that'd give me a bit better picture quality?
btw, love the videos :) great job!
Once again, excellent video. You do a great job explaining the benefits of these CRTs without getting needlessly technical. What did you do with your other TV?
Ben A I actually traded it for a BVM 14F5U. Its a very sharp little 14 incher! I only did that because I have the 24 incher though. I traded it to Skips who does all my mods. He then sold it to a guy here named Paul.
How can I change color and sharpness settings on RGB input? I had 2 TVs that could do it but now my Sony Trinitron can't do it. :(
phonedork.
Did the 24 incher have a protective coating on it?
Nice TV stand. Where did you get it?
Can you check out the BVM d9h5u for someone with not much to spend and wants a good monitor
Hey phonedork, in the video you mentioned that the BVM D24E1WU does not like sync strippers. If I'm using an Extron CrossPoint Ultra switcher to connect all of my consoles, the switcher only accepts csync/clean sync, so for example, a PS1 with a sync on luma SCART cable needs a SCART to BNC w/ built in sync stripper cable. I really want to get the monitor, but does that mean I won't be able to use an Extron CrossPoint Ultra switcher anymore?
li2rg It is fine with a sync stripper in line with a extron cross point
This guy is my hero
14:00 is your NES Composite original or RGB modded? Would be interesting to know what's the most accurate color Palette. Well, I guess the BVM accepts Composite...
Hey man, I just got one of these bad boys and everything works great except when I switch my gamecube to progressive scan the screen gets all jumbled. I have it connected with the component cables. Is there a setting I have to change. Did you experience any issues like that?
Nutz4Gunz45 I never had problem with progressive 480p or 720p with it. As a matter of fact somebody mentioned on Twitter how awesome 480p GameCube is with this monitor using the official cables. You do however need to put 75 ohm terminals loads on the output of your component ports on the bvm. Or else it will be too bright. But that does not explain your sync issues. Do those component cables work with any other tv?
Yea, the cables work fine with my LCD tv. Its really weird because the on screen menu is jumbled and stays that way until I turn the monitor off. Even if I turn off the gamecube first.
Outstanding video as usual! Very informative. Now what did you do with that NEC XM29 Plus? :D
I traded it to my friend for a Sony BVM 14f5u. If I did not have that 24 incher, I would have not done that. It was my main gaming crt!
great informative video
Please can someone tell me what kind of a speaker do i use for my bvm 20f1u
I want the top quality ones for retro games audio
If any, what are the differences between the BVM-D24E1WU and BVM-A24E1WU. I am confused on this, or are they both the same?
Thankyou
should i get a panasonic WV-cm1420, or is that a bad choice
This is a $3000 CRT now. Thanks Phonedork.
I'm looking at a Cvm3501 barco broadcast monitor. Would this work as well or do the same job as pvm/bvm?
Forgot to add this video is awesome extremely informative thanks for posting it.