AC Electric Car Conversion 101 part 005
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2008
- Converting a Dodge Neon to electric so you can too! Building the adapter plate, laying out motor bolt holes.
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This guy is amazing. Everyone that does car projects, should know someone like this.
I am planning to convert an ICE car to EV. These videos are a treasure chest.
Really well done. Can’t believe I’m only finding this now…
You are very good at this. You get right to the point, are easy to understand, you keep the camera still, and the lighting is perfect.
This man can really work a shaft. He even made it fit in that tight coupler
Thank you very very much for sharing your project with all of us. Amazing !! We can convert our existing cars like this yet we are faced with ridiculously expensive new electric cars. What a fantastic thing to do. convert existing cars and make continued use of perfectly sound chasis, transmissions, interiors.. I hope one day I can raise the cash to carry out a successful conversion...
Amazing...amazing....amazing!!!!! Thanks a million for making this! I work for a battery company servicing industrial forklift batteries and I'm planning to convert my Dodge Neon to electric.....this video is DEAD ON!!
I wil be converting my 98 Neon next year......and I will be calling it....the ELECTRIC NEON.
thanks again man!
Did you ever do it ?
Very interesting and well explained. I would suggest using some oil when drilling holes in steel plate. I have a brand new 1965 mustang convertible body I built a couple years ago. The car has all new metal and a vin number. I am 76 years old and have messed with hot rods and classic cars my entire life with the exception of serving in Vietnam 68/69. I built this mustang with the idea of making it electric. I have a nice shop and right now I'm busy keeping two go karts running for my grandsons. As soon as the cool weather hits this fall my attention is going to be an electric classic mustangs. I have seen other electric mustangs on UA-cam and will certainly keep your videos as reference. Thanks
Lo veo tarde esta conversion pero me gusta mucho con ca no dc y no motor a explosion cn un motor asi potente buenisimo senor gracia de Argent
It amazes me how he use decimals of an inch and yet do not use metric system...
Well, whatever works should be good enough..
A very detailed tutorial video though.. Thanks for uploading..
@usaamerica1
Most of the parts for this project were salvaged. The electric motor and AC drive for it, and batteries all came from recycling. The individual battery chargers were ordered off E-bay.
Entire cost of this project, including buying the car was in the neighborhood of $3000. Do a web search for "electric vehicle parts" to find costs for "off-the-shelf" parts.
Can you give me specifications about the motor that you used? I wanna do the same, I'm looking after for a powerful motor to go fast but with enought autonomy
Ok. Thx alot. Will you show us how to connect the batteries adn such?
Electric MOTORS are used everywhere in modern society. The most typical ones are AC, as they run off house-hold alternating current. A motor like the one used on this AC car project could be mail ordered from an industrial supplier. This particular one was salvaged from a factory that shut down. I think the motor ran a conveyer belt. You can also mail order AC electric car motors from EV parts dealers.
@andreagrech89 This motor DID go back on the transmission.
(I think it may have been a slightly different version of the same transmission. The guy Tom got the car from is a big Neon buff - I think he swapped the ACR tranny for a standard one.)
Anyways, basically the electric motor went back on a more or less stock transmission - not some fancy one at additional cost.
Good job 👍 only you forget to clean all items before you instale assembly the motor electric ⚡️ .
Friend, a big greeting from Colombia Latin America, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, your video is very interesting.
Excuse me a question.
Does it work with alternating or direct current and with how many volts and how many amps does your motor work, how many kilowatts is it?
It's a Baldor industrial AC motor. The car is a Dodge Neon.
Watch the other videos in the series for everything else you need to know.
Yes, for one thing, in a front-wheel drive car, the transmission is what connects the engine to the wheels. Also, this particular AC motor isn't very high torque, so you need the gearing to get the right amount of power. With some high-torque DC motors, it is possible to put it right on the differential of a real-wheel drive vehicle.
BenjaminNelson Hello, Is it possible to build a Daihatsu Applause with a 6.5 KW lift motor? How many kilometers per hour can you go?
@billydudeiskewl Wouldn't the high speed and pressure hold it in place? I think it allows for it to go wrong instead of breaking your whole motor, you just replace some plastic?
Good job but need to tell us the capacity of the AC electric motor and type of the vehicle that is going to use them for...
Question: which motor is that?... and what car are you planing to convert?.... thanks for the vids.
how did you attach the coupler to the motor shaft? it isn't splined so wouldn't it just slip at high speeds?
You could use a scribe or silver pencil
For more Accuracy
To save time and not have to measure anything you could
1st cut your motor shaft
2nd install your love joy on to the transmission and set the set screw
3rd install copler end on to dc motor
And put rubber spider between and put everything together
4th get a small thin straight edge and move the motor until bought couplers are square. ( May have shim under motor)
5th now that they are square you can mark your dc motor holes with a transfer punch.
6th remove dc motor drill holes and bolt back on
This is an old school millwright trick
And if you shim the motor your rubber spider will last 10x longer
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The saw used is usually called Bimetal and is designed for wood or metal. Just watch the packaging to make sure its rated for both.
the LOVE JOY couplings that ive ever used were a pain in my butt they kept striping out i mean after allignment an degreeing i no how hard it was changing tose out i can imagine how hard it would be changing one out in your set up a days work i would say,,i finally done away with the love joy an ordered 2 gears that fit my shafts an it is driven by a double row chain it dosnt never strip or give any trouble by chaining it together ,,
One question please, how much HP does the motor have and how many RPM does it have, please, thank you
@thegoosebrain
No I didn't. The project is Tom's. He's the guy on the camera. I'm the guy behind the camera. Tom works in salvage and recycling. Sometimes he can find real interesting things for free or cheap. This motor and the drive to run it came out of some sort of industrial equipment. If he didn't get it free, he got a good deal on it.
I know this is 12years old but what if you used a drive line u joint for a cupler?
Guy did you seriously say a good eighth of an inch 😂🤣😂
I wish I could get my daily driver converted, an 2006 q45
Could you not use a Forklift battery?
Turn the transmission vertical and mate the motor and then build your steel bed frame.
There are trade offs between aluminum and steel:
1) Aluminum of the same strength would be twice a thick (but still lighter)
2) I'm better at welding steel than aluminum.
A face mount motor makes more sense to use Aluminum, you have less air flow area and you don't need to weld 2 pieces together.
The motor (20 HP) I'm using doesn't transfer much heat to the mounting plate, its cooling is based on air flow.
Hi , what are the spec,s on that AC motor ?? what hp ? volts ? and is it 3 phase ?
So this is part of what you would have to do to turn a regular car into an electric car?
how can I get aelectric motor with a 350 to 400 hp. and direction to bulid it. what are the warranty on the motor.
This guy has LESS bull shit than others who talk too much without action! This guy in the the video has very good lessons for me as a dummy! Good job guy ! i like LESS BS and more action! Keep up the good work! I am impressed! Good demos, well said! Other videos just want to show off what they did but do NOT want to share some secrets, only bull shit!
Model and specs of electric motor. Is it 300v current needed etc
where do you even get an electric engine? ive been looking for one for ages, and... its verrry frustrating
What type or modle of electric motor did you guys use?
What size is the motor
I am not too sure if there were any math behind all of this, good workmanship but that is blacksmiths business, how much sizing and calms there was..?
What cost to install system electric for car ?
Size of The motor and weight of the car before motor and after.motor
So basically if you have a motor that can replace the engine you have an electric car? this would work perfrct with my Drive and Charge system to power it...
Pleas how can I get this dc motor in Nigeria
Is not done yet the: "Electric Car Conversion 101 part 006,...007...008" ??
In this case, no. The car needs nearly 300V to run the AC motor system. Forklifts are only 36 or 48 volts. Forklift batteries are also usually VERY heavy and bulky. I haven't ever seen ANY electric car conversion that uses a stock forklift battery.
What is model number of electric motor, Where is typical surplus from. Elevator etc.
The motor alignment could have been done much easier and more precise at the beginning, when the motor and transmission was lined up but the plate between them was not welded yet.
Hi.what the R.P.M of this electric motor
what about a high powered op-amp that will convert 24v dc to 300v ac without the use of a bunch of batteries?
no; that will still drain the one battery in 2 minutes, do the calculations...
Could have did that plate my neater, and would have been way easier to line it up instead of measuring
where is the: "Electric Car Conversion 101 part 006"
I'm puzzled ...your useing an AC motor instead of a DC warp 9 inch motor for a EV Conversion with a Lovejoy coupler ?
AC motors provide for features such as regenerative braking. It was also a very inexpensive motor, as Tom works in the recycling industry and can often find great deals because of that.
There are various ways to connect the drive shaft of an electric motor to the driveline of a car. LoveJoy couplers have been commonly used with good success.
A little water helps not to overheat the cut.
"mating" the engine sharf with the transmission shaft is a huge problem, and to tell you the truth the way you did it, its impossible to find the "perfect" point to make it completely straight in a way you can say "this set up will never cause problems to my bearings, and it will last forever like it should". you can never join 2 sharfts pefectly. Instead you could have gove with a twin chain + 1:1 ration(or different ratio better fiting your set up) sprocket wheels.
" 'mating' the engine sharf with the transmission shaft is a huge problem"?
No, . . . but, like a blind-hole transfer punch (which could have been used on the one blind hole in this project) you have to cut small diameter straight shaft shoulder bolts and screw them into close-fit tolerance holes threaded into the ends of the two shafts, then, checking run-out, raising or lowering, and using a precision level (which should have been used in setting up for the mounting and adapter plates), . . .
5:55 that’s what he said
What happened was he failed to use oil. Even when he drilled other holes with drill bit I cringed not seeing any oil used.
how would this be done with an automatic transmision?
I was wondering the same thing
need a separate motor (or a mount to hook up multiple pulleys to an electric motor), usually with shafts on both ends) to run the pump for the trani fluid. i read you only need it while the motor is not turning the transmission, but i cant confirm that myself
I would think that you could adapt the flexplate to the electric motor shaft with a small bushing welded to the flexplate.
flexplate?
it's the automatic version of a fly wheel. it attaches the torque converter to the crank. normally light stamped sheet steel.
Centering that cooper pipe didn't seem like a very scientific accurate way. Overall, great vid, thanks for it.
hi guys, im trying to do my car electric, but here in canada cant find motor like those i see in the videos, but finlly did find this motor and here is all the info for it,
Horsepower 5 HP
Full Load Speed 1,740 RPM
Voltage 208-230 V AC
Full Load Current 23.2-21 A
Face C-Face
Hertz 60 Hz
Motor Phase(s) 1
Full Load Torque 15.1 ft-lb
Starting Torque 50.6 ft-lb
Insulation Type Class F
Service Factor 1.15
Shaft Diameter 1-1/8 in.
Frame Type 184TC
Rotation Direction (when facing shaft) Reversible
Totally Enclosed Housing Yes
Open Drip Proof Housing No
Auto Overload Protection No
Manual Overload Protection Yes
Rigid Base Yes
Resiliant Base No
so pls let me know if it can work or no, the car is same as this dodge neon.
What is the HP
If I recall correctly, that motor was rated at 30 HP. Keep in mind that electric motors are rated at continuous horsepower, whereas gas engines are rated at peak horsepower.
I just don't see the savings yet from gas to electric. The cost is very high
According to Kelly Blue Book, the cost of the average new car in the United States is nearly $50,000.
In January 2023, we bought a brand new Chevy Bolt EV for $31K, (including tax, title, etc.) and expect to be able to take full advantage of a $7500 tax incentive.
The car will never use a drop of gasoline or need an oil change. This greatly saves on fuel and maintenance cost over the life of the vehicle.
Now, if you are comparing a brand new electric car to a 10 year old gas car that you already own, it would be very hard to compare the two just on finances.
Additionally i think the engine you used is too big and too heavy for this project..a smaller engine with a different set up in engine to transmission ratio (which would be allowed if you were to go with the chain and sprocket wheel setup) would allow easier rev.
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You can put a light on top of the shaft and trace the shadows :)
Why not just make up your mind on where you want the motor and drill one set of holes? Two lots of hole 3/8" apart will be touching??? Drilling out the Lovejoy will weaken it.
Where's part 006
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lol ya man you wont want to use a forklift battery, im guessing you are not a forklift operator but thats why they have battery changing stations the damn things weight up to 2k pounds.
Imagine how many vehicles that can be repurposed due to expensive engine repair or bad designs .I see alot of cars get junked due to some " part" gone bad and making the vehicle financially junk . At the right price I think a gas vehicle is a good choice for a ev conversion.
Sounds easy. Trust me. It's not. I've been doing it over 40 year's as I worked for ECD in Michigan. And sold my Electric Porsche to the two guy's who started Tesla on my technology. Stan O. Was my personal great friend and his wife Iris. True story.
That electric motor is overkill, you dont need such a large motor.
I notice everyone is the same, the idea of going slower is worse than death.
There you go. Blame the tool.
They do know car but not video!
he never drilled one hole.
SCRIBE OR ETCHING PEN
Size of The motor and weight of the car before motor and after.motor