Not even for hit. It's the way he acted after the hit going off the field. He. Does. Not. Care. 13 times...13 times and he is laughing blowing kisses to the crowd.
How can anyone argue for allowing him to still play? He should have been banned from the league years ago. What will it take, someone being paralyzed? Someone dying?
@@joelfranco4946 accidents being the key word here. Burfict has a LONG standing history of making these type of plays. You dont get paid to step foot on a field to possibly be paralyzed or worse because one particular player cant control himself.
@@joelfranco4946 They are not getting paid to intentionally try to injure other players. They are getting paid for their skill set to play the game of football. Do accidents happen and injuries happen due to hard hits? Yes. Is that the same as intentionally trying to hurt someone like aiming for their head, stomping on players on the ground or twisting their ankles after the play like Burfict has done throughout his career? No. Seems some of you that defend him aren't able of telling the difference between two simple concepts like that, and just say "injuries happen" while not being able to actually look at why they happen and what separates certain injuries.
They were booing him, he's from the opposing team, this why the nfl is turning soft, so since he wasn't being nice to the fans it looked worse? Nfl wants everybody to be friends and swap jerseys...
@@jonnybgood1105 He was smiling because he was proud of what he did. If the NFL "going soft" means taking stuff like this out of the game then I'll take my NFL the way I take my pillow.
You only see the hit, then him laughing and blowing kisses.. watch the play in full and right after he hits Doyle, he gets up and checks on him but they cut away from that.
There’s a difference between cheap shots and being physical. He’s had years to change and hasn’t I’m sorry but he need to go play somewhere else until he can make an adjustment.
MotorcycleMan i get that trust me I don’t care if he never plays again but if he really wants to play again and show he’s willing to change which I doubt personally he does but if that’s the case I’d still tell him he needs to show me tape either in a different league or him training for a couple months with coaches.
MotorcycleMan “play somewhere else until he can make an adjustment” I think the point wasn’t to say go somewhere else and cripple people, but to say play somewhere else WITHOUT using cheap shots to prove whether or not he deserves another chance in the NFL
Play where? The guy has been having suspensions for this since his ncaa days. He won't play anywhere. Even outside the US, where NCAA rules are applied. And this dude should have been banned a long time ago. I mean, he still doesn't get it.
Christophe Tam agreed, saying play somewhere is as optimistic as a situation you can put him in. But the reality is he won’t change. You’re right, and I agree.
"Your intuition is 6 million times faster than cognitive thought." That may be true Mr. Wiley but you're forgetting one small thing. Your intuition isn't always right.
Jonathan Davenport I really don’t understand why he’s allowed to play. It’s not like if he’s banned the NFL’s ratings will go down.. you’re endangering other people’s lives!
As Raider Nation for Lifer.. We had a player like this before named Jack Tatum.. he Paralyzed 2 players before he was kicked out of the league. This is a players livelihood.. nobody should be allowed to play dirty. I think that what the NFL did was Fair and it sends a Strong message to other dirty players..
He wasn't kicked out of the league, he retired. He wasn't dirty, he played until the whistle blew. He only paralyzed one player. Stingley lowered his helmet to protect himself and hit Jack's shoulder as Jack was going in for the hit. It wasn't dirty.
Jack Tatum wasn't a dirty player, 70s is when football was a warrior sport, also there's been people associated with the Steelers, there well know rivals in that era, that said Tatum was a good football player, nothing dirty about him
Nfl should take a page from NCAA book. Eject players on helmet to helmets. Should of been 3 ejections yesterday. They too afraid to eject players . It’s not like refs don’t put a lot of games in their own hands anyways
Remedies you miss the analogy and the point completely. I swear y’all are some dumb fuckers. You don’t have to agree but you can draw an correlation between the two
@@allcinionexplainsitall5869 No im not. Every time a pass is caught over the middle, he is the only guy still using his head as a weapon. He is a danger to others and his teammates because people are ignoring that there have been times where he accidentally speared his own teammates trying to spear a receiver.
Marcellus is really smart, one of the few black men I know that graduated from an Ivy league school, but on this issue he is wrong. 13 suspensions, when enough is enough.
There's a difference between being tough and being borderline criminal. He's not looking to take players out of the game of football, he's looking to take people out of the game of life.
Leo Gonzalez he had linemen hitting him in the head every snap of his career as a DE. Hear anyone crying for linemen on offense or defense? Nope 🤷🏾♂️. That’s Wiley’s point
People keep referencing older players who are in the hall of fame for playing similar. Here's the thing, todays players are faster, bigger, stronger, the game in general is faster. That being said , most these players referenced have had serious mental health issues resulting from this type of play, now I might not like it either, but the rules are put in place not only for your protection as well as others. He should be banned, if your not smart enough to obey the rules your not smart enough to play
Vontaze Burfict has NOT been suspended 13 times by the NFL. This is his 4th suspension (2018: PEDs, 2017: Illegal Hit; 2016: Illegal Hit). The other NFL imposed adverse actions were fines. He will get another chance and he "will" do this again...good question of "should" he be allowed to play again. We know he will play again, whether we like it or not.
@@soaky4 Not quite..He has been suspended or fined 13 times combined. They were speaking of the USA Today article. His game total before this one was 10 (4 PEDs, 6 Illegal Hits).
If he did it in Vancouver, British Columbia he can go to jail under the Canadian province's athletic liability law a la Steve Bertuzzi and Marty McSorley for hits to the head causing injury for assault resulting in injury.
I'm done here! Ole boy is crazy. This man has been warned, fine and suspended. And he think to let him keep playing? Im done. People like him need not be seen or heard.
no body wanna say anything about Doyle falling to the ground as Burfict hit him???? I dont think its right to suspend him for the season and i stand by that!
He should be done for the season!## If he comes back and does this again after a being suspend.he should be banned for life!!! Do we have to wait till he paralyzes a player...wtf
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As a raiders fan, I never wanted him on the team because I knew he would do this again. The man has to go and never come back.
No. He should be banned for life. He will NEVER change. He's had chance after chance after chance. It's time to say thanks but no thanks and goodbye. Mr Wiley doesn't seem to understand or care about player safety.
1:29 ... That's all you need to hear. Tez plays like the dudes he grew up idolizing and he's getting punished for it. Burfict is what a linebacker should be. The fact that he's been penalized an excess of 9 mil for playing the game the way it supposed to be played is criminal.
This is why the nfl is a dying sport, it’s becoming too soft. Whats next boxing, MMA? Society in general is soft these are grown men they should know what they’re getting into and they’re getting rewarded handsomely it’s no different from an average Joe working a hazardous job he knows it’s dangerous but he’s getting rewarded for it and that’s why they do it.
Jack12today linemen hit head to head every single dang play.....where’s the noise? They are only concerned bc if he hits a “money maker” QB or WR. We know this is just a false flag of safety lol
deciuswtasby I get your point about others getting away with it and I agree. At the same time it’s no surprise they’re watching him specifically, he’s been CONSISTENTLY putting himself in this position for years now.
@@SpankinDaBagel its crazy because he did it at least a year ago and years prior . but when someones else does it they get a pass cause they have no history of it lmao noooo they are targeting helmet to helmet . thats the rules placed down . thats sad how you think .
With Burfict's history of being a cheapshot specialist and just general all around dirty player, he should never be allowed to play any contact sport EVER!!! His level of play is with a full intent to injure and/or permanently incapacitate players on the opposing team. He's done, I love it, he should maybe go to work in the fast food industry and see what it's like to have to work for a whole lot less money than he's used too.
Theres a fine line between someone playing aggressive/ hard and dirty. Its obvious he plays dirty and the NFL is allowing him to continue. Goes to show how much the NFL "cares" for the players.
I understand the punishment here but if there are going to be helmet to helmet hits penalized, then you need to penalize ALL helmet to helmet hits and not just certain ones.
All he does is hit people square in their helmet. The game is dangerous in of itself. Why keep a guy who does nothing but try to intentionally hurt people? He deserved that hit Juju gave him a while back.
Vontaze is Very Passive Aggressive,he has a Very Dark Side, he has had Fines/Suspensions and yet he keeps doing Dirty Hits He needs to Go ✋...The video of him going after Cam Newton Ankles after he Recovered from an Ankle Injury was Vicious....You can tell a person by their Character their Actions....He is Not a Good Person,I Don't Care How Nice he seems.
No player has to lead with their head. You can NOT do it. Sometimes accidents happen. But purposely hitting your head into another players head could break a neck or worse. Not only to the player being hit, but the player doing the hitting. They can look at a film and see who did the hit on purpose and then suspend them. Problem solved. Was he ever suspended for the other 12 hits? Or did they just fine him.
Burfict after his 30th suspension from the league. Marcellus, should Vontaze Burfict be permanently banned from the NFL? Marcellus: Not at all. Look...
The problem is that this is the raiders being punished for penalties he committed on other teams. Its a crazy thing if on a whim a player might be randomly retroactively punished and banned fpr a season.
No he doesn’t. The fines are in place to prevent/deter you from continually doing the type of things he does. It’s not just the hits it’s the twisting of people’s ankles at bottom of piles,cheap late shots etc. if you can’t follow the rules that’s on you as a adult. If he was a driver and those fines tickets his driving privileges would have been gone so why shouldn’t he be banned from the league?
The NFL cannot have him in the league & claim with a straight face that player safety is paramount. 13 suspensions proves he doesn't get it & defending him proves you don't get it either.
He deserves another chance because he had to pay fines for things he did? What’s it gonna take for him to be kicked outta the league? Paralyzing someone? Killing someone? Ending careers? CTE? He should’ve been out of the league a loooong time ago
The form tackling I was taught in high school would now be a penalty. Those big hit reels from the 90s would now possibly land players ejections. Whats next, in game red jerseys for Qbs so they dont get hit? Almost seems like most sacks or qb pressures end with a roughing penalty.
a more accurate title for this video would be 'Vontaze Burfict should *NOT* be allowed to stay in the NFL - Jason Whitlock | NFL | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF' since that is the far more persuasive argument of the ones presented here.
Watch it in real time. He doesn't have the benefit of slow motion to make his decision. I easily can see from his perspective that the receiver wasn't down and was going for more yards. The receiver put his helmet low, and owns some of the blame. Receivers used to fear "footsteps" for good reason. The new rules allow the offense to have a soft mindset, with little fear of getting wasted. Quarterbacks need to make smarter passes as well. In hockey they call it a "hospital pass" when a teammate puts you into a vulnerable position with a bad pass. The new nfl rules are pass friendly encouraging less run game. Pass heavy offense obviously has more defenseless receivers than a run balanced offense would. Bring back old rules and improve safety equipment as much as possible. Bottom line is this is a violent sport and they know what they signed up for. Punish clear misconduct. Bring back reasonable expectation of hard hard contact. Fear footsteps. Occasionally someone gets hurt. Sad but part of the game.
He's going to appeal and the suspensions most likely going to get reduced because the most he's got suspended in the past was three games.and they use Progressive discipline. They're not going to tell me they're going to go from 3 to 12 games for an on the field hit
Them dudes was hitting like that since some of them been 6 years old all off them need redirecting to the new rules all you know is drop your shoulder ( reflex)
Should Vontaze Burfict be allowed to stay in the NFL this season?
No, because he's doing it on purpose.
Yeah
Yes, Burfict doesn't know how to conceal dirty hits.
no
Not even for hit. It's the way he acted after the hit going off the field. He. Does. Not. Care. 13 times...13 times and he is laughing blowing kisses to the crowd.
Suspensions are supposed to stop him from doing this, keeps doing it, like 10 times. It's time for a perma ban.
"There's a league coming called the XFL and it's for X NFL players just like him" 😂🤣
😂😂😂😂
How can anyone argue for allowing him to still play? He should have been banned from the league years ago. What will it take, someone being paralyzed? Someone dying?
That can happen regardless accidents happen that’s why u get paiddd son
@@joelfranco4946 accidents being the key word here. Burfict has a LONG standing history of making these type of plays. You dont get paid to step foot on a field to possibly be paralyzed or worse because one particular player cant control himself.
@@joelfranco4946 They are not getting paid to intentionally try to injure other players. They are getting paid for their skill set to play the game of football. Do accidents happen and injuries happen due to hard hits? Yes. Is that the same as intentionally trying to hurt someone like aiming for their head, stomping on players on the ground or twisting their ankles after the play like Burfict has done throughout his career? No. Seems some of you that defend him aren't able of telling the difference between two simple concepts like that, and just say "injuries happen" while not being able to actually look at why they happen and what separates certain injuries.
His attitude after the hit was worse than the hit itself.
They were booing him, he's from the opposing team, this why the nfl is turning soft, so since he wasn't being nice to the fans it looked worse? Nfl wants everybody to be friends and swap jerseys...
•Tha 5 Elements of Hip Hop• smiling after purposefully trying to ruin a mans life does make it worse. Nothing to do with the fans kid.
@@jonnybgood1105 He was smiling because he was proud of what he did. If the NFL "going soft" means taking stuff like this out of the game then I'll take my NFL the way I take my pillow.
Undiscovered Stars jack Doyle should’ve stayed down and not try to get up
You only see the hit, then him laughing and blowing kisses.. watch the play in full and right after he hits Doyle, he gets up and checks on him but they cut away from that.
There’s a difference between cheap shots and being physical. He’s had years to change and hasn’t I’m sorry but he need to go play somewhere else until he can make an adjustment.
+LoneWolf or not play at all?
MotorcycleMan i get that trust me I don’t care if he never plays again but if he really wants to play again and show he’s willing to change which I doubt personally he does but if that’s the case I’d still tell him he needs to show me tape either in a different league or him training for a couple months with coaches.
MotorcycleMan “play somewhere else until he can make an adjustment” I think the point wasn’t to say go somewhere else and cripple people, but to say play somewhere else WITHOUT using cheap shots to prove whether or not he deserves another chance in the NFL
Play where? The guy has been having suspensions for this since his ncaa days. He won't play anywhere. Even outside the US, where NCAA rules are applied. And this dude should have been banned a long time ago. I mean, he still doesn't get it.
Christophe Tam agreed, saying play somewhere is as optimistic as a situation you can put him in. But the reality is he won’t change. You’re right, and I agree.
"is it a targeted hit?"
"Yes, but..."
Smh
Yeah he targeted the guy with the f-ing ball.
"Your intuition is 6 million times faster than cognitive thought."
That may be true Mr. Wiley but you're forgetting one small thing. Your intuition isn't always right.
cognitive thought isn't always right. don't confuse cognitive with accuracy and rationality. both intuition and cognition are dependent on experience
@@peneloperunkle7489 Thank you for finishing my point.
It’s also not true but whatever
I'M POSSIBLE My intuition and cognitive thought both come to the same conclusion. He needs to be banned from the NFL.
Gnar Gnar Toby Jr. the III lmao what a response
Um, I am cool with 2nd chances, but 13 is plenty of chances. If you can't play then you shouldn't be allowed to play.
Jonathan Davenport I really don’t understand why he’s allowed to play. It’s not like if he’s banned the NFL’s ratings will go down.. you’re endangering other people’s lives!
How y’all gon say he should stay in the league ? This dude is ridiculous
These dudes know him personally so they are probably paid dicksuckers
As Raider Nation for Lifer.. We had a player like this before named Jack Tatum.. he Paralyzed 2 players before he was kicked out of the league. This is a players livelihood.. nobody should be allowed to play dirty. I think that what the NFL did was Fair and it sends a Strong message to other dirty players..
I can still remember him paralyzing Darryl Stingley during a preseason game in 1978.
Jack12today football is dangerous and will never be safe. People that think changing tackling will make it safe are just fools
He wasn't kicked out of the league, he retired. He wasn't dirty, he played until the whistle blew. He only paralyzed one player. Stingley lowered his helmet to protect himself and hit Jack's shoulder as Jack was going in for the hit. It wasn't dirty.
Jack Tatum wasn't a dirty player, 70s is when football was a warrior sport, also there's been people associated with the Steelers, there well know rivals in that era, that said Tatum was a good football player, nothing dirty about him
The 13 strikes law😂😂😂😂
Yeah I was cutting him some slack until they said 13
Nfl should take a page from NCAA book. Eject players on helmet to helmets. Should of been 3 ejections yesterday. They too afraid to eject players . It’s not like refs don’t put a lot of games in their own hands anyways
Agreed
They should be too afraid
In rugby American football's grandfather sport is now a straight red card offense equivalent to headbutting and tackles around the head/neck area.
Burfict was ejected
If it a rugby referee he obviously raised the RED card on Burfict for the foul play!!!
*Guy argues the unrelated 3 strikes law should mean he can stay in the league*
*Burfict has 13 suspensions*
Remedies you miss the analogy and the point completely. I swear y’all are some dumb fuckers. You don’t have to agree but you can draw an correlation between the two
@@mr.logicandfactsunapologet4926 I know about the three strikes law and understand what he means but it's not a good point in this argument
Tony Gonzalez always speaks facts! Love that guy, Awesome man and Great Te.
Yes sir.
Glad the player wasn't injured, but he played in the wrong era. Can't go for the head. Dude ain't Thanos...
#THANOS!!!!!!!
Lavar arrington looks and sounds like a Baptist preacher.
😂😂😂😂
His father was a preacher I believe.
Hahaha
LMFAO
kid: Mom why is this guy still in the league?
Mom: i dunno sweetie not everyones burfict
Lowkei Fyre comedy gold.
🤦🏽♂️
Kids moms a blood
Lowkei Fyre no 🤦🏽♂️😂
You've been waiting to use this one 😂
If vontaze comes back and ends someone's career, remember this clip and fire this man on air
Sneaker Sensei chill
@@allcinionexplainsitall5869 No im not. Every time a pass is caught over the middle, he is the only guy still using his head as a weapon. He is a danger to others and his teammates because people are ignoring that there have been times where he accidentally speared his own teammates trying to spear a receiver.
Dude's a dangerous player he should be gone
Marcellus is really smart, one of the few black men I know that graduated from an Ivy league school, but on this issue he is wrong. 13 suspensions, when enough is enough.
NFL fans:
League is so soft!!!!!
Also NFL fans:
ErMahGawd kick him out!!
Da Guy FAAAAAXXXXXXX
Stating the obvious: there's a variety of opinions among NFL fans. What else is new?
There's a difference between being tough and being borderline criminal. He's not looking to take players out of the game of football, he's looking to take people out of the game of life.
Victor Petrescu sadly that’s what it takes to play at that level. You can’t be cautious and play in the NFL. Doesn’t work
@@deciuswtasby so somehow almost every other player in the NFL gets the message except him. So is he wrong or is rest of the league wrong?
So we're gonna wait until he cracks someone's skull? Or paralyzes another player? Whichever comes first?
Kaiyznn right lol I don’t get it
Time for VB to enter the octagon or maybe play rugby for Scotland. Or maybe play rugby league for the USA.
Bro what? Marcellus do you want to get trucked by a guy that goes for peoples heads? Like literraly lol
Leo Gonzalez he had linemen hitting him in the head every snap of his career as a DE. Hear anyone crying for linemen on offense or defense? Nope 🤷🏾♂️. That’s Wiley’s point
More important the legs
People keep referencing older players who are in the hall of fame for playing similar. Here's the thing, todays players are faster, bigger, stronger, the game in general is faster. That being said , most these players referenced have had serious mental health issues resulting from this type of play, now I might not like it either, but the rules are put in place not only for your protection as well as others. He should be banned, if your not smart enough to obey the rules your not smart enough to play
Exactly if the nfl of the yesteryear had the information about cte I’m sure this would have been banned even back then
Vontaze Burfict has NOT been suspended 13 times by the NFL. This is his 4th suspension (2018: PEDs, 2017: Illegal Hit; 2016: Illegal Hit). The other NFL imposed adverse actions were fines. He will get another chance and he "will" do this again...good question of "should" he be allowed to play again. We know he will play again, whether we like it or not.
Those suspensions added up to 13 GAMES. The words Whitlock used in relaying what someone said in his earpiece were imprecise.
@@soaky4 Not quite..He has been suspended or fined 13 times combined. They were speaking of the USA Today article. His game total before this one was 10 (4 PEDs, 6 Illegal Hits).
@@REE_III cool beans.
He's basically a criminal playing pads Loool what
lots of those in the nfl still playing
So is Big Ben go complain about hin
Adil Kamal he has no criminal history 🤦🏾♂️
@@areoinstylz my mans taking me literally lmfaoo
If he did it in Vancouver, British Columbia he can go to jail under the Canadian province's athletic liability law a la Steve Bertuzzi and Marty McSorley for hits to the head causing injury for assault resulting in injury.
No way ! He's an ultimate cheap shot! He should learn from his previous suspensions!
Marcellus will defend anything that any player will possibly do!
The year long suspension is too severe.
Wiley is unwatchable
I'm done here! Ole boy is crazy. This man has been warned, fine and suspended. And he think to let him keep playing? Im done. People like him need not be seen or heard.
no body wanna say anything about Doyle falling to the ground as Burfict hit him???? I dont think its right to suspend him for the season and i stand by that!
He should be done for the season!##
If he comes back and does this again after a being suspend.he should be banned for life!!!
Do we have to wait till he paralyzes a player...wtf
As a raiders fan, I never wanted him on the team because I knew he would do this again. The man has to go and never come back.
Crazy cuz when i played football our mentality was hit to hurt...game has changed a lot.
No. He should be banned for life. He will NEVER change. He's had chance after chance after chance. It's time to say thanks but no thanks and goodbye. Mr Wiley doesn't seem to understand or care about player safety.
Ban him for life. Always been dirty, always will.
1:29 ... That's all you need to hear. Tez plays like the dudes he grew up idolizing and he's getting punished for it. Burfict is what a linebacker should be. The fact that he's been penalized an excess of 9 mil for playing the game the way it supposed to be played is criminal.
I’m sure if the nfl had the research in cte back then the rules would have changed back in those days.
@@williamsweeney6835 wayyyyyy back.
Marcellus Wiley is a tough watch
He yucks it up way too much.
Man I agree with you so much.
This is why the nfl is a dying sport, it’s becoming too soft. Whats next boxing, MMA? Society in general is soft these are grown men they should know what they’re getting into and they’re getting rewarded handsomely it’s no different from an average Joe working a hazardous job he knows it’s dangerous but he’s getting rewarded for it and that’s why they do it.
U know the NFL has changed lol
Jack12today linemen hit head to head every single dang play.....where’s the noise? They are only concerned bc if he hits a “money maker” QB or WR. We know this is just a false flag of safety lol
Some of the new rule are ridiculous, maybe most of them, but this guy is over the line and needs to go before he kills somebody
Lee Budd oh he’s got bad intentions no doubt but if this is anyone but him they don’t even throw a flag.....that’s my only issue here.
deciuswtasby they’re prepared for that hit... they’re not running full speed... or defenseless, it’s a completely different scenario my dude
deciuswtasby I get your point about others getting away with it and I agree. At the same time it’s no surprise they’re watching him specifically, he’s been CONSISTENTLY putting himself in this position for years now.
*burfict kills someone on the field next season*
These guys: “iT’s NoT hIs FaUlT”
And all the helmet to helmet that happen last week ? They could've killed someone . talk about all that if you gonna say that
@@williamchavez365 almost none of which was by defenders who have a history of repeated and dangerous behavior and form like Burfict.
@@SpankinDaBagel doesn't matter . it takes one hit to end a career .
@@SpankinDaBagel its crazy because he did it at least a year ago and years prior . but when someones else does it they get a pass cause they have no history of it lmao noooo they are targeting helmet to helmet . thats the rules placed down . thats sad how you think .
Just let him keep playing till someone is paralyzed and then they will say ok now it's justified to let him go forever. 🤦🏻♂️
The hit was bad , but his reaction leaving the game was what got him suspended for the rest of the season.
The XFL shouldn't have drug tests. The highlights would be incredible.
Wiley lavar are 100% right the hall of fame is full of these hits
With Burfict's history of being a cheapshot specialist and just general all around dirty player, he should never be allowed to play any contact sport EVER!!! His level of play is with a full intent to injure and/or permanently incapacitate players on the opposing team. He's done, I love it, he should maybe go to work in the fast food industry and see what it's like to have to work for a whole lot less money than he's used too.
Intuition is faster than cognitive thought.
That doesn't mean it's the right decision...Is this guy serious?
Shiggy Miyamo yeah its pretty pathetic
He's making you think. I think he has a point.
He’s the reason Antonio Brown is the way he is now. Debate me, AB hasn’t been the same since that hit.
Nay, have a like.
Thank you Lavar for pointing out the hypocrisy of the NFL
3:20 LMAO Wiley molecularized Bill Clinton
THEY SHOULD CHANGE TO FLAG FOOTBALL TO MANY FLAGS.....AND CRY BABIES
3:20 Bill Clinton like “Thirteen?!”
It doesn’t matter if the NFL says he can come back or not, if no team wants to deal with him he’s done anyway.
Theres a fine line between someone playing aggressive/ hard and dirty. Its obvious he plays dirty and the NFL is allowing him to continue. Goes to show how much the NFL "cares" for the players.
I understand the punishment here but if there are going to be helmet to helmet hits penalized, then you need to penalize ALL helmet to helmet hits and not just certain ones.
All he does is hit people square in their helmet. The game is dangerous in of itself. Why keep a guy who does nothing but try to intentionally hurt people? He deserved that hit Juju gave him a while back.
Can't have it both ways
Vontaze would have been justified hiring a lawyer named JewJew Smith Shyster.
@@charleshutton284 bigot much?
Charles Hutton nah, I think he got a taste of his own medicine. Juju also lead more with his shoulder than his helmet
2018, no fines, no illegal hits.
Vontaze is Very Passive Aggressive,he has a Very Dark Side, he has had Fines/Suspensions and yet he keeps doing Dirty Hits He needs to Go ✋...The video of him going after Cam Newton Ankles after he Recovered from an Ankle Injury was Vicious....You can tell a person by their Character their Actions....He is Not a Good Person,I Don't Care How Nice he seems.
13 suspensions compared to 3 strikes?
No player has to lead with their head. You can NOT do it. Sometimes accidents happen. But purposely hitting your head into another players head could break a neck or worse. Not only to the player being hit, but the player doing the hitting. They can look at a film and see who did the hit on purpose and then suspend them. Problem solved. Was he ever suspended for the other 12 hits? Or did they just fine him.
Burfict after his 30th suspension from the league.
Marcellus, should Vontaze Burfict be permanently banned from the NFL?
Marcellus: Not at all. Look...
The problem is that this is the raiders being punished for penalties he committed on other teams. Its a crazy thing if on a whim a player might be randomly retroactively punished and banned fpr a season.
He's not even really that good of a player.
Yeah actually he is a very talented player just let's players get into his head
Tony do yourself a favor and ditch these clowns
I am so glad I watch football when they played football Like Jack Tatum Jack ham Matuzak And the list goes on
No he doesn’t. The fines are in place to prevent/deter you from continually doing the type of things he does. It’s not just the hits it’s the twisting of people’s ankles at bottom of piles,cheap late shots etc. if you can’t follow the rules that’s on you as a adult. If he was a driver and those fines tickets his driving privileges would have been gone so why shouldn’t he be banned from the league?
Whenever I need to hear the most ridiculous take on any sports topic, I come here to listen to Mr. Wiley. He does not disappoint.
He doesn’t have the right to injure someone for life . He’s had multiple warnings . He’s out of there .
Coolif he plays again, but a suspension is warranted. I'm not sure if it's worth the rest of the season but he does need a break
The NFL cannot have him in the league & claim with a straight face that player safety is paramount. 13 suspensions proves he doesn't get it & defending him proves you don't get it either.
I don't know who directed this segment but the cutting is first class 👌🏽
Yep, who is liable if they yet him back in? The team? The league who allowed him back in? Great point!
What about last year? He was never called for anything dirty. The hit wasn’t that egregious compared to some of the hits that took place this year.
He deserves another chance because he had to pay fines for things he did? What’s it gonna take for him to be kicked outta the league? Paralyzing someone? Killing someone? Ending careers? CTE? He should’ve been out of the league a loooong time ago
Is this the NBA they do know that football is a collision sport not a contact sport a collision sport
Replace the phrase "player safety" with "lawsuit avoidance" and we have the true root of the argument.
Actually, he has been fined or suspended 14 times prior to this.
The form tackling I was taught in high school would now be a penalty. Those big hit reels from the 90s would now possibly land players ejections. Whats next, in game red jerseys for Qbs so they dont get hit? Almost seems like most sacks or qb pressures end with a roughing penalty.
a more accurate title for this video would be 'Vontaze Burfict should *NOT* be allowed to stay in the NFL - Jason Whitlock | NFL | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF' since that is the far more persuasive argument of the ones presented here.
Without Burfict where would’ve our Antonio Brown entertainment gone this past year?
I don’t think a ban is necessary at this point he’s a flight risk if signed, I think his career is over anyway as a result of these hits
Football is a violent sport. Suspending Burfict for the season would be like suspending a boxer because he punches too hard.
Why is he acting like he’s not a dirty players and act like he doesn’t do it on purpose
He's simply, absolutely, completely wrong.
Watch it in real time. He doesn't have the benefit of slow motion to make his decision. I easily can see from his perspective that the receiver wasn't down and was going for more yards. The receiver put his helmet low, and owns some of the blame. Receivers used to fear "footsteps" for good reason. The new rules allow the offense to have a soft mindset, with little fear of getting wasted. Quarterbacks need to make smarter passes as well. In hockey they call it a "hospital pass" when a teammate puts you into a vulnerable position with a bad pass. The new nfl rules are pass friendly encouraging less run game. Pass heavy offense obviously has more defenseless receivers than a run balanced offense would. Bring back old rules and improve safety equipment as much as possible. Bottom line is this is a violent sport and they know what they signed up for. Punish clear misconduct. Bring back reasonable expectation of hard hard contact. Fear footsteps. Occasionally someone gets hurt. Sad but part of the game.
Stephen P u are one hundred percent correct. It’s turning into a two hand touch game with all the extra rules.
Sure let him play..... he's just trying to paralyze players, it's not like he did something dangerous like take a knee, lol.... #KAP #NFLINJUSTICE
Burfict is the model all defense player should be like
He's going to appeal and the suspensions most likely going to get reduced because the most he's got suspended in the past was three games.and they use Progressive discipline. They're not going to tell me they're going to go from 3 to 12 games for an on the field hit
The pic is misleading because the offensive player is getting back up for more yards..
Lavarr Arrington had the perfect take on this...hundreds of HOF'rs made their names with worse way worse hits than that...
his last hit compressed the guy's spine. how many chances should he get before he disables someone?
No way no how, that's if, if you care for the safety of the players, if not, we'll see him next season.
This was an actually pretty decent discussion on the subject... Now what's their take after Myles Garrett on Thursday Night Assault?
Man this is bullshyt. These are common weekly hits in the 80s and 90s
i HATE agreeing with Jason Whitlock! kick him out of the NFL
The rest of U.S population says such and such sport is soft nowadays. But, they also complain about Vontaze Burfict.
*facepalm*
The logic of him staying, is the reason why people stopped watching the NFL..
13 fines and the NFL STILL letting this fool play....
Wiley won't be happy until Burfict paralyzes somebody. Burfict is unredeemable by choice.
Michael Petersen honestly playing football that can happen on any play
Them dudes was hitting like that since some of them been 6 years old all off them need redirecting to the new rules all you know is drop your shoulder ( reflex)